Gotta tone down that violent, suggestive rhetoric, union thugs.

Democrats have deemed it unacceptable, you know.

Somebody might get hurt.

hey jim hows your dad doin?

“he should take his case directly to the American people” I love this line like the President hasn’t given tons of speeches on TV. People have seen thru this President and know he’s nothing more then a empty suit. The idea that all the President has to do is talk more and be more forceful is laughable.

Has Jimmy Jr gotten his GED yet? What a moron!

no dog whistle tommy, time to get new hearing aids

“He went on to say that, if the President can’t get Congress to budge, he
should take his case directly to the American people. ‘There’s going to
be an election in ‘12, and maybe the answer is, we wipe these people
out.’”

Is that a threat, Jimbo? I’m already trying to figure out what Maxine Waters meant when she said Tea Partiers could go straight to hell and that she’d help them get there.

“Where are we gonna go? Support Rick Perry?”

Besides we have already bought and paid for this president.. - James Hoffa.

Fuck the unions. Their demise couldn’t make me more happier.

Nice little business you got here .
Hope nothing happens to it .
 
Secret ballot ?
You don’t need no secret ballot.

Union thugs like this creep are dinosaurs ,
and dinosaurs are extinct .

Oh, the violent and hateful  rhetoric from the left! I’m sure KO, Barry, RM and Matthews will be condemning this tonight. No doubt about it!

Gee, TC, you didn’t say one thing about Hoffa’s uncivil rhetoric. What a surprise!

What was the last thing Jesus said to the Teamsters?
Don’t do anything until I come back.

Have the Black Panther’s unionized yet? Obviously they are going to need to get way more physical this election so they will probably bring in the big guns. Those union members that only use their kids are just the second string.

Take his case to the American people…” -WHAT case? We are still waiting for the promised jobs plan.

I have no doubt the unions, as they did in 2008, will be out in force helping “to wipe these people out” who oppose Obama. Should be fun, union thugs and Black Panthers patrolling the voter polling stations.

These union thugs are digging their own grave.  I say keep it up!

I hope that Obama FOLLOWS his Union bosses’ orders and DOES plead his case directly to the American people because EVERY TIME he does this his approval numbers go into a tail spin.

From the dictionary of REAL Americans:

union = 1. A collection of people headed by goons and thugs organized to extort the maximum possible wages, benefits and pensions for doing the minimum possible amount of actual work. 2. A subsidiary of the lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist party that provides hundreds of millions of dollars in mandatory union dues as campaign contributions in payback for the billions of dollars of taxpayer money the d-cRAT socialists funnel to the unions. 3. An entity designed to make any company non-competitive and any state, city or local municipality bankrupt. 4. A collection of people controlled by goons and thugs that are focused on voter intimidation, unless the voter votes for the d-cRAT socialist party. 5. A tool of the d-cRAT socialist party to implement its anti-democracy ideology by preventing workers from having a secret ballot as to whether they want to join a union, and instead subjecting them to what is called “card check” that allows union leader goons and thugs to harass, intimidate and threaten workers to join their union. 6. The d-cRAT socialist party’s version of the Third Reich’s SchutzStaffel  (SS) used to violently attack anybody who opposes the will of the unions or the party, as seen in their actions in Wisconsin and elsewhere where there are efforts at fiscal reform, rational governing and support for taxpayers.

No Stonepark….its the violent Tea Parties that we have to worry about…remember?

” wipe these people out.”
“He can’t get rolled over again.”
Dems disappointed by the President’s “negotiations”

And the TEA Party are terrorists? Can’t wait for the condemnation….crickets.

What world do these people live in?

Anyone who doesn’t like unions never worked a dangerous job. Ask a coal miner.

Good thing Sarah Palin didn’t say ”wipe these people out”… the media would be all over her for ‘encouraging’ violence… yet we get this from the son of mafia associate Jimmy Hoffa.

Good thing most states (all but 0bomber’s “home” state of Illinois) have concealed carry. That way, when this or any other union thug tries to “wipe you out”, you’ll have a chance to save your life.

-The terrorists have identified themselves. They are Democrats-

I hope they say it to his face to stop being a wimp. 

Aww he said “wipe them out”. Republicans are such pussies.

No, it’s the dangerous professions such as school teacher, mail man, and other state/fed employees who’s unions make me hate the concept.

No, it’s the dangerous professions such as school teacher, mail man, and other state/fed employees who’s unions make me hate the concept.

This is coming from a guy who’s political party whined when Palin put targets on a political map in 2010.

Big difference between private and public unions.

Sorry Mr. Hoffa.  It is YOU who needs to be wiped out.
The union movement used to help America & workers.  Not any more.
Today, you are just political thugs trying to hang on to power so you can enrich your wealth & power.  You are HURTING this country, not helping it.

The mailman? Really?No taxes what so ever go to United Postal Service. It’s all paid with funds from postage. $0.42 to mail a letter anywhere in the USA is a preety good deal.Are you jeaslous someone get a decent wage a pesion plus great health care? How About a State Trooper  or the firefighter who climbed the towers on 911? Your a fool!

Hoffa is a schill for the Democratic Party which he and his fellow Union Bosses helped buy and pay for.  I’m not at all surprised by his rhetoric as that is all that seems to be coming out from Democrats lately.  They are the ones who bitched to high heaven that the rhetoric needs to be “toned down”.

Unions can be and are a valuable asset to working people.  My grandfathers both were union who worked first in coal mines in Illinois and West Virginia and then finished out in the Potash mines.  The coal union helped them both survive their childhood since they went to work there right after 3rd and 4th grades respectively.

The problem with unions is that they no longer seem to be for the working man/woman but more for their big-wigs and State/National legislators.  We need to replace all of our national legislators and union big-wigs to people who really will work to help the average American.

There are many, probably more, non-union mines out there.  MSHA provides the safety, not the unions. 

boo who

This moron, Hoffa, must live in a vacuum, a smelly desease filled one at that.

Obama’s in the dirty toilet at the local gas station, he cannot steal another penny from us ” real ” American people and this guy is talking like the dems still have all three Houses, a Louisville slugger and a pair of O J Simpson leather gloves.

“ He can’t get rolled over again.”
 The 2010 election resulted in the highest loss of a party in a House midterm election since 1938. The Republican Party gained control of the most House seats since 1946. That is what you call a rollover, people rejected his spread the wealth concept.

Tommy his whole base is imploding. Trumka and Hoffa, Maxine Waters and the National Black Caucus, Illegals demonstrating all over the county. All your gangrene fingers and toes can’t plug the holes this ship has.
I know these people will never vote Republican but  maybe they’ll just sit it out like a lot of us did in 2008

and the postal service is on the brink…..requesting to void union contracts

“Hoffa  wants the President to “Come back to Detroit.”

Why should he go to Detroit? Those poor souls would never vote for a republican. The Unions destroyed Detroit and the decent people moved away decades ago.

If it wasn’t for the coal miners standing out in the rain on a picket line for hours on end. Then getting attacked and standing up to company thugs with pickaxe handles and baseball bats the MSHA would even exsit, They would not have the equiptment to keep miners alive or the machines that resue them today.

After a Democratic congresswoman was shot in the head in the state she put a target on. Yeah Democrats have a problem when someone shoots one of them..

Teamsters and UPS might have a little bit to do with that doncha think?

“President Obama can’t inspire the kind of energy he did in 2008,”

All those kids that thought it would be cool to have a Black president are now more concerned about finding a job.

Not to mention e-mail

Not to mention e-mail

Not to mention e-mail

Postage is 44 cents and no the Post Office is not funded by postage alone..

“The United States Postal Service has lost over $20 billion since 2006 and is projected to lose another $8 billion this year. Government Mail is about to max out its $15 billion line of credit with the U.S. Treasury, and it faces $66 billion in unfunded obligations due to excessive labor costs.”

http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/closing-post-offices

All unions are not created equal (Enron, anyone?).

Except that it had nothing to do with Palin’s little sign, but that mattered little as the Dems used it to excoriate conservatives for the nex couple of months never once accepting that they may have been taking things a little to far!  Using the tragic shooting of one of your own representatives for political fodder..  and you still don’t see the shame in any of this. 

Yeah, I saw Matwan too.  Maybe, maybe not. Some of their complaints were about safety.  It’s still a dangerous job, I take care of them everyday.

http://www.msha.gov/MSHAINFO/MSHAINF2.HTM

so one union is the reason for another union getting cut….got it

After reading the comments here, I can tell this section is responded by Business owners or mind controlled idiots. All this talk about the union as thugs, which is opposite as to why unions came to be. To fight against Business hired thugs was the reasoning. How soon we forget. If you don’t own the Business, you should have nothing but praise for unions. Even non-union wages are based off their wage scales. You seriously need to look and see what unions are about. But, we all have opinions.. Im for the working class in this respect. If a company can flourish off American labor in the states, it can flourish with union members asking for fair wage and benefit packages.

As for the message Hoffa brings to the president, he just states as all have seen. Obama is a very weak president and should stick to those that could re-relect him. when you hear a union leader saying you look weak, you probably do.
 

Yuhh, wipe ‘em out, see? Wuhh, stuff ‘em in a trunk, right? Duhh, drop ‘em in the river, yo?

Jealous? Send your kid to a socialist public school or maybe you can afford a private school that doesn’t have unions or have to adhere to the same standards as public schools.

Hey asswipe! I hate to break the news to you but the vast majority of people in this country don’t belong to unions and generally are not sympathetic the cause so STFU!!

TC, I don’t know if you’ve recently had “a talking to” from your masters but your articles for the last month have  have been pathetic. There was a while there where I thought you might start becoming an actual journalist. I guess money talks and always will.

Union products cost too much, that is why everything is made in China now.

Give Obama a break gangster. Obama is  working to destroy Americans as fast as he can..

Not the blacks bro. They’re still waiting for some of that Obama stash they heard about throughout the campaign. and a kitchen..

You are pure hate. Rivers of hate.

Why do Teapublicans hate hard-working American men and women working to support their families and themselves and to capture just a small part of the American dream? How are these fine, hard-working men and women a threat to you?

—

Good adivce, Mr. Hoffa. I hope our right-of-center president listens to you.

No, it’s not. It’s because Nixxon conceived globalism. Raygun established it. Poppy accepted it. President Clinton failed to reverse course and W and Big D*ck turned it into a virtual Constitutional mandate.

Free trade with unbalanced nations and no protectionism thru tariffs is what is causing America to fail. And American companies moving their facility to those countries while saying look Im an American company!  Bullshit.. I avoid those companies the most if possible. I rather buy from a china company outright than an American company that has abandoned the country that made them flourish to begin with.

why does a union president want to wipe out americans?

Hey ‘Clown Face’ first you call republicans pussies then you whine like a little pussy. Remember it was one of your own that  did Giffords….A.D.D. Boy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMDur9CDZ4#t=0m35s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnnwJ1rgCnM#t=0m14s

And Obama has gone buck wild on said ( and agreed upon) corrupt  establishment. Not for the good.

And Obama has gone buck wild on said ( and agreed upon) corrupt  establishment. Not for the good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Guj9fx-Vg#t=1m23s

If anyone knows about “wiping people out,” it would be Jimmy Hoffa’s son.

Bill Clinton’s tree huggers put Fruit of the Loom company (5000 union employees) out of business in this State because the bleach might harm the environment. Bleach is made from salt and returns to salt once used and it does not harm the environment.

I think all would agree that your time would be better served by renewing your memberships in the KKK and NAMBLA.

This slug certainly doesn’t want to disgrace the proud name of Hoffa .

After reading your comments, it is obvious that the dead do communicate.

Why are you so universally hated? Oh, I just read your comment. Never mind.

BTW, have you sent in your renewal membership to NAMBLA?

You are the reason God gave man two middle fingers!

Hoffa always has been and always will be POND SCUM.

Wasn’t he the prime suspect when his Dad disappeared?

We don’t hate fellow Americans you ignorant fool.  What we detest is the establishment of a money tunnel to the Democrat Party.  Since you are a statist, and affirm the beliefs of fellow Marxists, I wouldn’t expect you to understand.

Is it tiring being so stupid?

These people? Is this guy some kind of bigot? 

So I guess the teamsters are still being run by the mafia, and they support Obama.
I guess Crooks really do stick together.

Someone should ask Jimmy to meet them at a restaurant.

Your grammatically incorrect comment says more about you than you can imagine.

Furthermore, I am a retired union electrician, and I thank God every day for the opportunity to have been represented by the union. I was reasonably well-paid, had good benefits, and have a fairly comfortable retirement. Your negative remarks about unions tell me two things about you: 1) You are envious or jealous because you were not smart enough to land a job with union representation; 2) You did not pay attention to your union-represented school teachers, or you would be literate, not stupid.

Spoken like a true idiot. Where do you think you would be without unions. If you think it is so bad now, why don’t you dust off a history book and read about all the abuses foisted upon the working people? What do you think started the union movement in the first place? Without unions, overall wages for everybody would be lower. You and your kids would be working 12-hour days in factories with no safety program, health benefits, paid vacations, or any of a multitude of benefits that we take for-granted today.

Your head is so far up your ass, you couldn’t see daylight if you were standing on the sun; that goes for all the Tea Partiers and hardcore right-wingers who share your views.

LOL. I think what we dislike is a job that used to be hard to lose because the benefits weren’t so good turning into the highest paying jobs with the most benefits and no way to get fired if you are useless.

Jerk. If the “thugs” are any good at what they do, you won’t have a chance to get to your gun.

Ya you see how they toned down their rhetoric since then. They really only wanted Republicans to shut up. Typical. The Dems are the loudest , most obnoxious group out there and they want to tell everyone else to shut up. LOL

Ya you see how they toned down their rhetoric since then. They really only wanted Republicans to shut up. Typical. The Dems are the loudest , most obnoxious group out there and they want to tell everyone else to shut up. LOL

I could afford it if the taxes weren’t so high to pay the lousy public schools.

Hmmm sh-t for brains… noted.. another Business owner cries out for more profits…

Yeah, you’re right.  I’m so jealous.  So jealous in fact that when confronted with forced union representation via ill-gotten means, I sued….and I won. 

If you wanna thank God for your representation, you go right ahead.  It won’t change the fact that unions are headed by phony bastards in the tank for the Marxist wing of the Democrat party. 

I stand by my original statement:  Fuck the unions, the whole lot of them.

Didn’t they usually cement shoe the entire family ? How did the kid survive ?

Mr. Hoffa, Richard Trumpka and other union leaders were instrumental in ridding our little town of just about every manufacturing job. Our population has dropped 19%. Small businesses like mine suffered a great deal from that loss of population and their incomes. Our town now relies on federally subsidized health care jobs and Medicare fraud to keep us afloat.
Is that how you characterize capturing the American dream?
Yes, Obama should fight harder for the working people. That fight should, in part, come in the form of curbing the power of big unions.

Hmmm..didn’t have nothing to do with those so called American companies using the free trade markets and moving their companies offshore for bigger profits? Must be the American worker asking for fair wages and benefits… yet another Business owner whining about equality. Although you probably loved those union workers coming into your shop when the companies remained in America? Amazing how we over look that.

Your Right about the man part(s)

Dpfiling do us a favor don’t give us a song and dance about unions. Especially about government unions! Everybody right now is strapped for cash and has to make considerable sacrifices to get by. With the exception of unionized labor and government unions. These organizations are nothing more than special-interest groups for socialism. Now don’t get me wrong unions have had their purpose in life but they outlived it. Right now we have too many labor laws both federal and state. There is really no need for them. If unions are so great why do they need open card check so they can encourage nonunion members to join or face physical repercussions or to have their families terrorized? Come on man we’ve seen in the news.

Again with the NAMLA reference. Your one screwed up mama.

Proof? And Proof you don’t own a business? and proof you actually give a a damn about working class, fair wages and benefits.. or it didn’t happen.

Proof? And Proof you don’t own a business? and proof you actually give a a damn about working class, fair wages and benefits.. or it didn’t happen. Please, live in the real world.. quit watching tv..

That’s why I said “instrumental”. The things you mentioned were equally responsible, but this thread is about Hoffa. Most of the jobs went out of the country, but some went to other states with non-union work forces. I’ve taken all of this into account.
Yes, I like the union workers, but not the unions leadership. I was in unions for eleven years and spoke out against the leadership all throughout that time.

I’ll reply to this highly respectable union supporter. Now with respect to the statements unions as thugs I think most people are spot on about that statement. Because look at it from this standpoint if your company and you have to downsize and it’s a union shop the people that get the ax are the ones that have less seniority. A nonunion shop supervisors and executives can go through the records and weed out the people that don’t make the status quo thus maintaining a highly productive workforce. That means that good employees have a job. The bags of trash gets sent to the dumpster.

Your comments are vile as  usual, but I expect Dick Cheney would be quite happy to be referred to as Big D*ck.

yeah you’re right you didn’t have anything to do with this nor your beloved elected officials or the higher regulations the higher taxes the brutal union contracts. No it’s all about greed! Yep the bottom line is these executives want more money to shove in their pockets. That’s why your jobs are going to Mexico China the sweatshops of Indonesia. All they have to do is pay these people five cents a week. Come on man wake the hell up!

it is funny, the public unions are scared of the unfair treatment from thier employer….the government.  And then on the other hand give government more control of their lives.  lol

Wow. Mr. Hoffa wants to “wipe these people out.”

How nice of Mr. Hoffa, the son of a criminal who himself is a criminal.

Hoffa belongs in prison. Period.

And Obama should be in the cell next to him.

Go suck your “Big Dick,” asshole.

Yep the bottom line is these executives want more money to shove in their pockets.

umm..that’s the point I was making…

Advise to Hoffa: When your IQ hits 50, sell.

Well, at least you know unions can’t help trying to keep a fair wage and benefit package for lower/middle class while the Owners rather move overseas for greed.. long as we are clear what the evil really is.. and know union busting is not the proper path to solving the problems.

On the flip side of this coin.. kissing butt and being friends does not save your job over another. Time and experience does. I seen a company take management after a strike fire every manager that did not have a college degree… explain the fairness there? They had no recourse.. and the company, lost alot of good men that did not have college but much more experience. Guys that had been around 20 plus years. Don’t tell me how great it is out there without unions, that ass is only so big and holds only so many lips.

Since when are ‘managers’ union?  They’re usually non-union.

What middle ground can you find in wiping people out?

LMFAO

Tool.

All I can think to reply to your posts is WHAT AN IDIOT YOU ARE.

How is life down in Mom’s basement? Is she in the freezer and you just go to the mailbox and get her checks? Is Mom’s basement middle earth and you the ROYAL EMPEROR?

Says the dimwit who gave a thumbs up to someone calling a skank ho.  Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I kind of like that thought, but hasn’t the President created enough acrimony? Do the more extreme elements in his base really need any more pushing to get out in the streets and cause unrest?

I understand your frustrations, but talk of guns is the last thing we need right now. Things are teetering too far out on the edge and Hoffa’s tough guy talk is wrong too.

Whew…on rare occasions I wonder whether using the term ‘bludgeon’ to describe what I want to happen to Obamo is going a bit overboard.

Not anymore!

Don’t think so. Very little room to wiggle with all those obstructionists in D.C. People are much smarter than you give them credit for. I am a news junky and that would be anything but Fox News. I can not stomach Fox News as of 5+ years ago. Caught them in too many lies.

“Teapublicans” are hard-working people just the same. What we hate is people who sponge off the hard work of others.

I read the same thing over and over on how people have caught fox in lies.Could you please post some of those lies.

Oxycon you’re the worst type of American there is. You benefited from and are still benefiting from being in a union for years.

I would love to laugh in your face as you deposit your union pension check.

You’re quoting a movie to make your point? You realize that movies are fiction, right? The truth about unions is that they came about because the industrialists of the day were working people (and their kids) to death and when that didn’t work, they hired Pinkertons to SHOOT them to death. You don’t think Haliburton, Boeing, etc. would do the same today if they could?

How dare he call a skank a ho. A ho is a ho, and a skank is a skank.

Read a history book? But he’s a real ‘mericun. He don’t read no books, he gets his history from Professor Hannity

I doubt anyone who could afford it would want to send their kids to a school with the “same standards” as today’s union controlled public schools.

Yeah, or like being a hit man for the mob.

That was the point, had they been union members, the idiots at the top could not do such a thing.. thanks for keeping up..

Industrial bleach is extremely alkaline and also frequently contaminated w PCB’s.  The only way it could safely be returned to nature is by being diluted.  Check downriver from any paper company.  Have you ever heard the of the term “salting the fields”? Once this has been done nothing grows.

I think it’s simple macho hyperbole.  I agree, dumb way to express beating an opponent at the ballot box.  I’m from Michigan, union folks speak plainly and would’nt be respected if they did’nt.  The tough-guy attitude was employed by Mr Hoffa’s dad much less successfully.

Whenever I hear you talk about hate I laugh uncontrollably, give it up.

There’s no shortage of lawyers that would jump at the chance to go after a corporation over real and/or  fake claims.  Google Halliburton or Boeing employees sue and see what you get.  So, the large companies of today have built in checks and balances, non-union employees have that backing without having to pay part of their checks to unions, and they know it.

There’s no shortage of lawyers that would jump at the chance to go after a corporation over real and/or  fake claims.  Google Halliburton or Boeing employees sue and see what you get.  So, the large companies of today have built in checks and balances, non-union employees have that backing without having to pay part of their checks to unions, and they know it.

There’s no shortage of lawyers that would jump at the chance to go after a corporation over real and/or  fake claims.  Google Halliburton or Boeing employees sue and see what you get.  So, the large companies of today have built in checks and balances, non-union employees have that backing without having to pay part of their checks to unions, and they know it.

You two are forfeiting one of the cards in the democrat play book……..accusing Republicans of living in the past.  Wake up!

My father was a member of the Boilermakers, Blacksmith’s union for over forty years.  The union was eventually broken three years short of his retirement, he went back to work for the company after the strike and someone fired a shotgun blast through the living room window, my children were there spending the night.

My husband’s family owns a metal fabricating shop and we’ve done business with and aero-space industry for years, during their strike union thugs dumped gallons of paint all over our shop because our business happens to be on the street behind the industry and the goons happened to know we were one of the industry’s contracts.

I also was a secretary for a huge construction company, at times I worked on site out of an office trailer, I know all the tricks of the trades and how much each were paid.  How the different trades couldn’t be bothered to practice simple safety measures, ironworkers were sleeping in the rafters, finishers were walking off the job after a half hour of rain, slowing the job to get overtime, and theft was rampant.  All union, those are the ones that show less respect for those that went before them, don’t blame non-union shop owners for not wanting to be unionized.

You are NAMBLA!

How’s pops doing, James?

Yeah, the MSM and MSLSD are much more”honest” in their reporting. What a putz.

Nice projection reader. Unfortunately, unions are no longer in the business of helping their members like they used to be when they were a necessity. Today unions are only in it to enrich their management team and lobby for more “progressive” rights to fatten their paychecks, not the union members. I’m always confused over the fact that unions give more than 95% of their financial backing to democrats, when it’s been proven that about 35% of union members are republican. Sounds a little shady to me.

And you are a whiney assed bitch. What is your obsession with Michelle, stalker.

And the twain shall meet in your house, skank ho man. Obviously, you’re speaking from experience, congrats on that.

Yeah, and the horse that pulled my buggy is dead. It’s a new day, it’s a new dawn, and guess what, we have the f’ ing ACLU and scum bag attorneys who will protect workers today,they don’t need no stinkin’ unions. Way too many protections in place for employees for companies to get away with the shit that happened 100 years ago. Unions are nothing but democrat shills anymore, face it.

Come on Fedup, you keep bringing up facts, how are we gonna have a hateful conversation with progressive union supporters. Sheeesh.

That’s what I get for trying to multi-task!

The need for strong private Unions has been demonstrated over, and over again in this country. Without strong Unions keeping the employers honest, and working conditions safe, we would be in serious trouble. The problem is, the Unions have abandoned their original dictates and will only do as little as they possible can to keep the rank and file in line. Unions have become a pyramid scheme, with those at the top reaping unbelievable benefits far above the average worker.

We don’t need Welfare
We need job fairs
Where are the jobs we were promise John Boehner and Mitch McConnell

says the internet tough guy…

Yes, Jim Hoffa.  You do have an alternative.  Support the Republicans this time around.  The unions supported Reagan.  The Republicans will do a whole lot more for the unions than will the Democrats.  You are a captured slave of the Democrat Establishment and have been so for over a half century.  It is time for you to smell some fresh air and support the party that cares about working men/women.

Dream on, do you like social security,
vacations, fair wages, affordable health care, share taxation for all, grants
for education, wall street reform, close tax loop holes and subsidies for
corporation, jobs here and not overseas, CEO’s and executive salaries reform, freedom
from the Koch brothers and their kind, the middleclass, safe water, and fresh
air are items I don’t find the republicans care about, but if you are super
rich they should be your choice

No  problem Mr. President, I wll send more Teamster thugs as back up for you for crowd control.
Another stupid union leader.

don’t blame non-union shop owners for not wanting to be unionized

another disgruntled shop owner… let’s be honest here, it’s all about profit and companies really don’t want their employees making more than enough to survive. Comes down to King theory.

A union rep gets what the high pay spot gets in the industry. how do you see them getting unbelievable benefits? Your congress man makes 174000+ a year? CEO’s make in the millions? seperation between non-union workers and their boss is much greater than that in union companies. Please, facts or it didn’t happen.

Unless you “own” the company, there is nothing but pluses for having a union. Those that “own” the company and have union employees basicly have the best people in the industry.

And he is stupid why? He states the President wants Unions and democrats behind him, yet does not even support his own side. He needs to find some solid ground to stand on. as it is, he is standing on sand sliding all over the place. One thing Hoffa is not, and that’s stupid. The problem with the right side is to much non-union stance in government..  and that is a hard area to decide on. Although Ron Paul and a few do not mind unions in private sectors and make it a non issue other than right to work states. Rick Perry though? he is right. Perry announced in South Carolina mainly to show support to Boeing in my opinion. Union busting at it’s best. The south is widely known as union busting sweat shop owners. Very hard to wash the plantation owner mentality out of the southern people. Most are to scared of the company run thugs. Why do you really think Boeing wanted to open in the south? come on.. wake up.. it’s way to obvious.

Hoffa is RIGHT all the way. Obama is facing a political suicide that is being instituted by every REPUBLICAN. They don’t want the president to FIX anything, so that they can BLAME him for NOT getting the debt fixed. He can do this. Come to Madison, Wisconsin, and then to Ohio. See just how the American WORKERS will need his support and he NEEDS theirs. The republicans are FORCING this condition of NOT getting things done and then turning around to BLAME the president… HOFFA IS RIGHT….

Unions, like our political system is a democracy. All the leaders are voted in and out. your not intimidated any more than what a Republican and Democrat do here on the boards, comment on each candidate running and throw out slurs.  You really need to quit watching those gangster movies… most are far from it. I am sure someplace there is corruption just as in every industry. Overall, it’s a very good system and best bet for anyone that does not “OWN” the company. Bottom line, you got with the best wage and benefits you can get for your family. You cannot beat Union jobs or quality period. The union also suggest which people in washington d. c. is doing the best for union labels. Just like in any industry. No one comes and twists your arm to vote that way. Please, get real..and into the real world. This Union thug stuff just cracks me up… you will find more thug types by intimidation within the company, then you would ever find in the unions.

Sounds like an “owner” trying to pass bad information… You best bet is union. I knew a lady who recently got fired from a non union place by a “newish” college grad showing his stripes.. a no smoking policy went into effect, she was caught smoking in the old smoking area.. 35 years poof.. gone…  she never went back.. would never have happened in  a union company.. you have recourse and a process.

btw, they reinstated that smoking area… seeing all the bosses also smoked..including the guy that fired her..

How can you explain to people who are retarded that unions are there to help working people against the greed of exploitive corporate oligarchies. You are wasting your keystrokes talking to these TeaTurds on here. They will never learn until they lose their house or their wife and children to no insurance or any number of other things that big business wants as opposed to big governement. they don’t care that big business takes their jobs to China or Mexico. They are happy to blame liberals or Obama when it is their own puppet masters that are F)(*ing them. They are so stupid they have no clue. You can’t teach the brain dead. Yes that is for you too Stonepark, Norbit Lt. Dan and the rest of you moron TeaIdiots. Hoper you are having a great day at the trailer park 

union thugs? as what? compared to company thugs? always remember why unions came to be…

sounds like a business owner passing along bad information to me… check yourselves.. then check into a union near you..

Most are just Business owners who hate to give up control and money and benefits.. some are just scabs trying to wiggle into under paid jobs and some just like to pass information they have little clue about but seen in some movie… Does not mean they should have the only voice in these forums. Even the forum platform it’s created on is anti-union.. but, we try to open people up to know they don’t have to kiss butt and live on their knees all their lives. Do your job the best you can and have a union for support is the best an average american worker can hope for. This is well known by those that actually work in all fields and those that cast blame onto the unions..

Reagan actually understood unions and was the president of one if  am not mistaken?  Amazing how that works.. you can support unions and still be on the right.. must not be as bad as some make them out to be. I believe he is the ONLY President that was a Union President at one time.. he knew what was right for the country and the industry he belonged to. thanks for reminding me.

I live in Michigan, once I lived in Detroit, I wish nothing but success for Boeing. I have seen what union thugery and greed have done. Thanks but no thanks.

oh, your talking about Politicians.. gotcha…

seen? what was it you saw? please tell.. you seen average americans have a chance at dignity and fair wages? You seen average americans have medical care added into their wage scale through bargaining? Can you name the “thugs” you seen? or did you see a tv movie?

Did the Founding Fathers, envision a “workers paradise,” or, a place of entrepreneurial opportunity?

(Don’t say both)

My point is: how is the “President to FIX anything,” when the techniques he and his compatriots are using are more akin to revolution, than repair?  The President is a Socialist who is attempting to “FIX” a Capitalist nation, ergo, he must first dismantle the Capitalism and replace such with Socialism.

All of which begs the question(s): Is Obama a revolutionary?  Also, does he have the necessary process of “FIX,” out of order?  Moreover, what would be the result, if Obama simply stood at the podium and told America what he was really up too?  Would he gain, or lose confederates?

Are you a Socialist CCRAZYHORZ?

Purveyor of Rhetoric 

My father-in-law started his business in the 50s, at the highest point he employed 20, all well paid with excellent benefits, profit sharing and all got a hefty bonus 3 times a year and a quarter of a cow and a ham for Christmas, turkey for Thanksgiving.  He catered a party for the guys at the shop for Christmas and then they played poker. 

Never had an employee quit, ever, they all eventually retired out of the company.  His first five employees spent their entire working career at his company, some of the rest came from other metal fabricating plants, but once hired, they all stayed because the pay, benefits and working conditions were excellent.   Still are, but with the increases in health care, the bonus checks aren’t so big anymore, but neither is the profit margin, my brother-in-law bought out all the heirs and has cashed in his personal cds three times to keep it afloat and still handed out bonus checks.

Now, for the first time ever the shop is down to 30 hours a week with 6 employees, no need to hire anymore lifers because it’s looking like the business isn’t going to make it.  Hell, we even survived Carter, still working 50 hours per week.

Anyway, JPTG, small business is the backbone of our economy, companies that don’t care or take care of their employees lose them, once they’ve lost their skilled workers they most likely won’t survive.  In a union shop, “let’s be honest here” there’s a lot of dead weight that unions protect, my father often mentioned that fact.  At least on construction sites when a company gets a lemon they can be sent back to the hall, not that easy for federal, state and county governments or other types of private industry.

Im glad your father-in-law was a fair employer, others could learn from him. That is not the norm though unfortunately. Usually, we are talking larger shops. As for dead weight in unions, what makes people from the “outside” think union people don’t get fired? If you don’t do your job, you get fired. With the invention of computers, you get fired quicker and usually have some sort of quota to meet.  There are bad apples in all industry. So much talk with no first hand knowledge it’s kinda funny. And usually from Small Business owners afraid the Unions are going to take away their profits. Unions don’t care about small shops unless asked to come there. If a place is doing good for their employees a union will not get voted in period, remember that. If the vote passed, there must be a reason. The “thugs” came from owners long before unions existed, always remember that too.

Are you delusional? What did the unions get from Reagan but the Ait Traffic Controlers fired en masse for going out on strike which set the entire tone for the anti-union environment for the past 30 years. Do you really believe that Republicans give a good crap about working men and women or are you just on here to spew out mis-information?

I’m a business owner – nonunion house. If you pay good wages and treat people fairly to begin with there isn’t a need for a union but if you are a greedy little S*&^ then there needs to be a union.

Exactly, the union will not be asked to come in and would not get voted in if they tried to come in.

There are places in the country called closed shop areas. In these areas it can be difficult and expected to become union by the type of business you start. But in these cases, the owner most likely knew beforehand. There has not been closed areas added in a long long time that I know of. So, it basicly is someone trying to undercut other union companies with cheaper labor. You can say but it’s America we can go anyplace. Yes you can, so can the unions. So don’t blame them when you attempt to cross them and they pickett your Business in these areas. 

On the other hand, there are more Right to Work states poping up. These allow non union paying members to work along side union workers. The only difference is they do not pay dues. I always wonder about this. Take all the benefits but do not support them and expect them to fight for your job when something happens… strange..  but, that’s life.

also these areas are hardest hit with cheaper labor and usually a cheaper product. All for company profit. I been through most of this country. I have yet to see a non union producer beat a union shop on anything equally made. And middle management are much happier with union employees because they make better money too… Strange how that works..

true now, but was in the union at southern bell in the 70′s. Quit when the local union rep came to me(florida’s a right to work state and I wasn’t a member) to ask me to join and be the work location union rep. I said I’d think about, then he said to me”by the way, we noticed you produce more than alot of the other guys. That puts a burden on the guys that can’t keep up, and makes them look bad. Also, you sell alot of extra services for the company, how does that help you.?” Thats’ when I told him I wasn’t interested in the union, I wanted to do my best, not make the other guys look good.

The air traffic controllers were legally fired.  And what do you know, the union that brought on those firings is kaput.  Their new (current) union is worthless as any other.  See the contract negotiations of 2006 and how it was Congress who implemented their terms of employment.  All the unions bogus charges against the FAA were dismissed as are most union complaints in contract talks.

Some day, the word union (as it pertains to collective bargaining and such) will be paired with the dodo bird.  I can’t wait.

Don’t you TeaBaggers spell that MORAN ?

I’m not a Teabagger, Douchebagger!

While I share the feelings of the political fight in James Hoffa, I want to caution him, in that he doesn’t know what he’s really asking for.  Check this webpage out:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Civil_Liberties/Posse_Comitatus_Law.html

Read the whole article, and see that under the heading “THIS JUST IN”,  the commentary indicates that Vice President Joe Biden (whom I like, by the way) has been the most hawkish supporter of the Posse Comitatus Law, and wants it amended, in light of Homeland Security’s aims and the Patriot Act, to put soldiers into our streets TO ARREST US — to arrest anyone who protests; or gathers for a rally that the powers that be don’t want us attending; or perhaps attends a church that the new global religion doesn’t approve of.  Essentially, it creates a police state right here at home … a permanent police state.  Moreover, it creates it by law, so that ANY future administration can use it to “lord it over us” and suppress freedom of information, communication, and any kind of dissent.

Consider for a moment that our Democratic president — whom I also like and am grateful to, for his signing of new stem cell research legislation (putting the practice of meaningful therapy and treatment for MS and other serious maladies, back upon our own soil; so those who are sick among us can get treatment, and get well) — is being groomed for a much bigger stage, onto which he’ll be invited to play a leading role.  I do think that VP Biden may have his eyes on that stage also.  And consider how they seem to be more Republican than the Democratic party generally is, and possibly more hawkish than other Republicans are.  Think how they may use this law.  Consider how future men may use this law.

Do you really think union protests will be allowed?  Or any protests, that aren’t directly in line with what they want?  This law will weave together with other laws, and create a climate like there was in East Germany, under the Stazi and the state police.   

We want our leaders to play “hardball”, but we don’t want them to be as evil as the opposition.  This attitude of fight evil with evil must stop, and it must stop with us.

Having said all that, I think that perhaps we’ve delegated too much power to our leaders, and to Congress and the House.  Our system was tinkered together in a time when the comman man was illiterate, and worked in the fields all day.  It’s high time we take back our own power, out of the purvue of either parties’ ability to screw it up.  Check out this next site:
http://www.americanselect.org/

While we do need to have a majority to vote in a successful team, what does that matter if they’re NOT WORKING FOR US?  If their agendas, and the laws they pass, are designed to work together to create a police state, where marshall law is the rule?  Is this the democracy you’ll settle for … as long as you can get a job and a happy meal?  Stop these autocrats!

It’s high time that WE, just as the founders originally did, hammer out a sounder agreement and accord for this nation; and our individual responsibilities to think all the aspects through and get this done are mandatory.  A nation of fools quickly becomes a nation of slaves; and this has already happened to us.  We must take it back, while we still can.

I agree Carol, I to only trust General Electric Co. for my news.
 

Get rid of the Democrat unions and replace the thugs, thieves, fraudulence and liars with good, hard working RIGHT TO WORK people!

This coming from a union butt boy who can’t think for himself!!!  You all have to be told how to think, how to vote, where to put your money.  Do the union thugs tell you how to wipe your ass as well?  As a Tea Partier, I don’t have to hide behind my union and follow them like a balless bull with a ring in my nose.  I vote Conservative Republican and damn proud of it.  You couldn’t do the same because you’re scared of the big bad SEIU thugs, they’ll take your rattle away!!!!

Yeah keep up the thuggery, Teamster scum.

Sorry friend but the democrats and union have had their chance to fix things and failed.  You cannot blame the past 4 years on republicans. 

Where is Frank Fitzsimmons when you need him?

I discount the flaming rhetoric of Jimmy Hoffa.  He represents less than 1% of the workforce and if violence ensues over his call to war on the GOP and the Tea Party…it would be a short war. Teamster trucks would be charred ruins and Hoffa would come up missing like his pops did. Be careful for what you wish for….you just might get it.

I respectfully disagree. Union track record for strong arming money and compliance from its’ own members and from replacement workers is not pretty. It’s why the unions are 17% of the workforce and declining. The Teamsters are less than 1% and will likely poof out entirely within a decade. Good riddance.

If the peaceful Tea Party should ever adopt the Teamster history of violence, the Teamsters would cease to exist in short order. I caution the rather foolish Teamster leadership from inciting violence as I really don’t think they realize what they are up against AND that many of their own members are also members of the Tea Party. It would be a short war…

WHERE ARE THE JOBS, OBAMA?  Zero jobs this month. First time since the 1940′s that’s happened.  We need to change President O’ to President 0

….and then remember why unions are disappearing to less than 17% of the workforce today and probably will not exist within 10 years.

Actually, we’d have been better of in the long run without unions. We’d be more competitive in the world, pricing would be much lower, we would not have nearly the corruption in politics that we do…we’d still have manufacturing in America and we wouldn’t have to listen to the thug-like threats of Jimmy Hoffa. Oh, and Jimmy Hoffa’s pops would still be around for holidays (although he’d probably be in prison).

Union members can’t think or act for themselves. They’ve given up those freedoms to the union thuggery, not to mention a goodly amount of their earnings. Unions lost their purpose back in the 1960′s and have been in decline ever since. A union is a dinosaur in the modern world of global commerce and individual initiative. They will not exist as an entity in 10 to 20 years.

Yeah…I heard that the teachers union members are suffering from PTSD having to deal with all those grade school kids. Anyone ever notice the huge increase in private schools recently?

Fortunately, they’re union thugs. They’re not really good at anything other than whining about pay and benefits, stalling efficiency on assembly lines and work projects, and appeasing the Democrats and the Mafia. Oh, sorry, same thing…my bad.

Wipe out Republicans? The Tea Party? Hahahaha. That is highly unlikely to happen in 2012. The only thing that will disappear is probably yet another Jimmy Hoffa. Think history will repeat itself?

Its a shame that these so called leaders are getting support from the left for everything. Hoffa calls out his  union to arm themselves. He is a complete moron and for him to sound like he is a tough guy is such a joke. It almost like the members have no say or choice  in voting. Obama has robbed the treasury and anything else he can get his hands on. He is a socialist and we are Capitolist’s. There are different rules in Socialism. He also has gotten rid of prayer day for the Christians in the  country while having Muslim pray day every year. Who is he praying with?????????  Good luck in supporting this chump  

I am one of the SOB’s you are referring to….I ain’t going nowhere. I am here for the fight hoffa. 

I am one of the SOB’s you are referring to….I ain’t going nowhere. I am here for the fight hoffa. 

@jack48…………”Empty vessels make loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest blabbers”……..Plato……………you sure are proof of that quote………just as all the TeaBaggers are proof……anti union, anti tax, anti gov, anti global warming, anti Separation of Church and State, anti science………now there is the definition of a moron, we had 8 years of morons and are still trying to dig out of the freakin’ mess

Problem is they can’t find any.

You are so right, unions are so well paid their jobs are leaving the U.S. in mass.
Thank’s to all the cost involved in dealing with union leadership, I.E. the lawyers & the bosses like Jimmy the second & his million plus dollar a year paycheck. 

It’s the lazy union-represented tenured school teachers that are making our kids STUPID!

Times change, the time for unions & their rampant corruption has long passed.

screw you Hoffa you Fing Communist, hope you end up under Giants stadium with your old man

You cannot tell these people anything, all they know is working at Pizza Hut, Walmart, AutoZone, etc, that is their life, and the problem as long as they make enough to have their electricity on so they can watch NASCAR and buy their bumper stickers, they are happy, these people are so ignorant and illiterate you are wasting time trying to reason with them. We had young man that was a Marine that crossed our picket lines with others as new hires, and after strike was settled and we were back to work, I heard his father had passed away, I took up a collection and walked up to him and gave him the card with the donations, he looked at me as tears swelled up and ask me if I could relieve him for few minutes for him to visit the restroom, when he came back I told him, he had a band of brothers in the corp, now he had a new band of brothers, he told me when he crossed he did not know what he was doing or what it meant, this ex-marine now on every union election is in the hall donating his time and we became the best of friends………..with his union wages he was able to put his wife through nursing school and buy new home for his family, whether you guys like it or not, if you want the middle class to survive, you need union jobs and benefits, because without them and the corporate greed these heartless SOBs that run the companies will walk right over you and they know you can do nothing about it…………so shut up and wake up 

Jimmy Hoffa like his scum bag father is nothing but a punk.  These kind of antics are why I dropped out of my union three years ago.  Companies create jobs.  Unions desroy jobs.  If jimmy Hoffa and his zombies want a fight we’ll give him one.   Hoffa has proved unions are filled with ghetto asswipes and whit trash GED morons.  The Tea Party has only been aroun for two years or so.  In 2010 they elected their first members of Congress.  The 14.5 trillion dollar deficit and the high unemployment rate has been around before 2010!  Hoffa like the other liberals, are using the Tea Party as a scape goat just as Hitler blamed the Jews.  And we all know how Germany looked liked after the surrended.

Then what is your opinion of the ILWU?

 Then what’s your opinion of George W.Bush?

LOL So funny.That’s not true at all.I’m a ILWU Local 10 Union member and what you wrote is not true.That is the stereotype and I find it so funny.I would be more then happy to educate you about what real UNIONS do and what they are all about.I did not get harassed to join a union,I worked hard like a real American did to earn what I got.Yes,I make a wonderful living and I don’t mind paying my fare share in taxes.Do you believe that those who make over $250,000.00 a year should pay more taxes?Sure,they should.They will get it back.I don’t feel we should be giving other countries money,we should spend the money here at home in America.I respect your choice to be in the teaparty but your thoughts about unions is not true.God Bless.