So, can we all agree that she’s a piece of shit?

I only wish the Mediaite reporter had noted that she was going to detonate the bomb in front of a hospital.

FIRST Nicholas Brody and NOW this woman?!!

Abu Nazir: HIRE A NEW BOMB MAKER!!!!

…at the very moment her detonator failed outside of a hospital.

…at the very moment her detonator failed outside of a hospital.

…at the very moment her detonator failed outside of a hospital.

…at the very moment her detonator failed outside of a hospital.

…at the very moment her detonator failed outside of a hospital.

“As Vittert sees it”.  The snide, pseudo framing of that quote in the piece implies something biased in his report.  In fact, there was no bias in that report and a 1,000 for 1 trade; especially when only 1 person from the 1,000 is profiled and they’re that flipping crazy is a great, unfair deal. 

We know you’ve got a liberal bent Mediaite, but we still love you. I just don’t click on any of your ads. 

Immediatly following the failed detonation…their should have been a bullet fired into her forhead.

Rabid dogs are never cured….

Muslims are such nice folks…

Hay, Alex, here’s a news flash for you – this woman is neither unique or even unusual. Hamas has been creating these bombers for years in Gaza while the world ignores it. Well, here it is and you know what? The world will still ignore it, largely because of the spin you put on it.

“As Vittert sees it?”

How about as the facts indicate?

This has nothing to do with Muslims and everything to do with Palestinians. Can you not see the difference?

Yes, because we know that Palestinians are not Muslims.

LOL

The future face of liberals and the OWSers.

No it has nothing to do with Palestine and everything to do with the culture.
 
You think Palestinians have a monopoly on this behavior and mind set. 
 
Suicide bombers of the exact same stripe come from Egypt, yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanastan, Jordan, Syria….etc.  They all may have a different reason, but the method is still the same….find the weakest and most innocent, and kill them in the name of your cause….

And right now, the religeon of peace pretty much has a lock on this MO.

I’m sure  libs  will be  showing sympathy for her because she felt like a failure after  the bomb didn’t detonate.  And we all know that libs don’t want people to feel the shame of any  failure to succeed in life.

This person is no doubt the dream girl of the poster sometimes known as “conssuckballs” who claims to be a muslim. Am I right?

Is this the same hamas that the libruls think aren’t terrorists?

No way…neither group has a God, and the last thing they would do is sacrifice their lives for anything….

Way to ruin the season for me.

what about the Major who killed here on a US base, the 2 failed NY plots, the underwear bomber, the shoe bomber, the 2 seperate  military recruitor killings. MUSLIM MUSLIM MUSLIM.   Now show me a stand up moderate Muslim…

the Keevas in the world ARE the problem.

They would not be doing it for  God but for their ideology like  Ayers, OWS, etc..

You don’t see something biased in that report? She’s a wealth of information, more than willing to talk, but somehow they neglected to report why she is so intent on blowing herself up. Before people go mustering their righteous indignation, let me say there is no justification for trying to blow yourself up with a hospital full of people. Justification and reason are not the same though. That’s the mistake people make when those like Ron Paul say the terrorists had a reason for doing what they did. That’s not justifying it. That’s attributing a motive to it. The picture this report paints is that of Palestinian/Muslim hate and aggression directed against an innocent Israel. This reporter went so far as to track this lady down and didn’t even tell us why she is doing what she is doing. He’s either an incompetent reporter or a biased one. As I said, there is no justification for her actions, but the story would take on a different tone if you learned that, say, her innocent children had died in an Israeli air strike. Don’t believe me, or want to jump down my throat for saying as much? Consider this. In the same story the reporter acknowledges Israel creating a prison like atmosphere for up to hundreds of thousands of innocent Palestinians, but he mentions it in light of the threat posed by people like the woman in the video. If he had just told you that a nation had created a prison like atmosphere for thousands of people and left it at that, it would be a very black and white affair. Clearly the nation responsible for the imprisonment is evil and those that are imprisoned are goodly victims. Now clearly there is no justification for imprisoning innocent people, but you see how the story takes on a different tone when the threat of the suicide bomber is thrown in.

To Keeva, those were “one offs” well maybe “two offs”, well OK, “three offs”, OK, maybe a “four offs”, OK maybe….

Hi Michelle.

you think the woman had a right to do this?

LOL @ this Tea Bagger Troll.

still have nothing I see- come back when your knuckles no longer scrap the ground .

Let’s follow that train of thought with Jews.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_religious_terrorism#After_the_creation_of_Israel

And Christians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

And Republicans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_terrorism

Oh wait, those people aren’t representatives of those groups? Gee, who’d have thought?

You’re joking right? Trying to get under my skin? Troll me? Rile me up? Okay, good one. LOL. I have to believe that. Otherwise I have to accept that you could be that stupid.

Your getting the cause and effect confused.

The the “effect” is the prison like atmosphere perpetuated by the isrealis.  The “Cause” is because the Palestinians commint horrendouse acts against the isrealis.  If they did not fire rockets, blow themselves up in schools, and elect a govornment who has sworn to see the destruction of Isreal..my guess is they wouldn’t be living in a prison like atmosphere.

Also, when isreal fires rockets into a structure, it is always in response to a Hamas attack.  What hamas likes to do, is make sure their potential HVTs hang out in populated areas to ensure if isreal does attack them, there is plenty of collateral damage to fool people like you.

They are evil to their core, have no respect for their own lives, and the lives of their own children, and deserve to sympathy.

You can probably find terrorism in any group. Heck, even the Quakers!
http://the-american-catholic.com/2011/01/24/quaker-terrorist-suicide-bomber-kills-31-at-moscow-airport/

But that would require self sacrifice and their death would prevent them from living off the fruits of others…

It just doesn’t seem to be compatible

Libs, upon seeing this story: “La-la-la…I’m not listening…La-la-la.”

http://www.itgetsbetter.org

You’re a much nicer person since you’ve come out of the closet.

Tried to. People like you protested against the sponsors of their TV show because they weren’t showing enough scary Muslims.

Really? you have one example? And how often have other groups done that?

Here son last 2 weeks:

2011.12.19 (Balad, Iraq) – Sunnis bomb a minibus
carrying Shia pilgrims, killing at least one.

2011.12.19 (Kokjali, Iraq) – A teenager is
murdered by Muslim terrorists while walking home from
school.

2011.12.19 (Mastung, Pakistan) – Wahhabis gun down
a Shia civilian waiting for a bus.

2011.12.19 (Dadaab, Kenya) – al-Shabaab bombers
take out a guard at a refugee camp.

2011.12.18 (Ain al-Helweh, Lebanon) – A child is
among the casualties of a Jund al-Sham shooting
attack.

2011.12.18 (Kano, Nigeria

Yeah, look out for those quakers…what a brutal bunch they are.

But you are still in, Buck and still on your knees!

Ouch!

I like the fact that the volume of content available for each group spans 200 years and fills less than one page.

And the fact the that the Ku Klux Klan is a conservative group, yet founded by the dems, to counter the GOP was hysterical too.

I could find this much content for muslim extremist violence over a past of the last six months…..

But yeah..your right, all these groups are identical in the propensitiy to commit horrific acts against innocence and then collectivly say nothing against the violence, or in many cases outwardly support it.

I wrote “as Vittert sees it” because his comment about people not being able to change is, indeed, his opinion and a subjective statement, regardless of whether he’s referring to a terrorist or a kleptomaniac. There’s nothing snide about acknowledging that.

And they commit bombings on a weekly basis?

LOL

You’re ignoring that the ‘prison like atmosphere’ could very well be part of a feedback loop in that it only confirms what radical Palestinians have to say about Israel, and ends up leading to more people joining their cause.

This frames a narrative for the new season of Homeland.     

Whoa! R U SRS? THNX KEEVAS!

I find it adorable that you’re expecting substantive replies to your bullying nonsense.  I would think most people would realize that it’s a waste of time to try to engage in any form of meaningful conversation with you.

To fool people like me, huh? Look at your post. “They are evil to their core, have no respect for their own lives, and
the lives of their own children, and deserve no sympathy.” It’s that type of propaganda which blinds you to the fact that there is a such thing as an innocent Palestinian. You look at them like trolls in a fantasy novel. To you they’re this race of evil beings hellbent on destruction. You can’t even bring yourself to have sympathy for a Palestinian child that dies during one of Israel’s “self defense” missions. You’d rather rationalize in your mind that the child, as a Palestinian, deserved it somehow. I can’t believe people with your mindset exist in this day and age. Your world is so black and white, tailored to fit the narrative you want to hear. You look at the conflict between these groups and think there’s one side consisting of the good guys who never do wrong and the bad guys who sit around the conspiracy table plotting new evils on a daily basis. Did it ever occur to you that maybe both sides have people that have been aggressors, and that those aggressors create future aggressors out of their victims?

I don’t think he was trying to say that, or trying to justify her horrendously stupid act to blow herself up in front of a hospital.

I do think the reporter should have asked her more about her motivations. Are there personal, just generically political, basically answer the question of why she in particular was able to try to do this.

I think he should have highlighted the no remorse part, ask her how she could try to blow up a hospital with doctors that have treated her before. What about innocent civilians, how does she justify that.

The report was a bit incomplete as it didn’t get into that. Maybe he did ask but her answers were not interesting?

Kudos to the Fox reporter thought, very interesting to get access to such a person, specially a female suicide bomber. This is the type of thing that almost deserves a documentary treatment, the more we learn about what drives a person to do that, you would think the more you could do to prevent it.

And wow, the Israelis just give out 20 year sentences for suicide bombers? That was a bit surprising, as well as how many people they would release in a swap for one soldier! We accuse the Israelis of being hard liners, but I suspect we would hand out more thought penalties and would never do prisoner exchanges.

Kamikaze Japanese pilots?

But we need to put Muslim terror in perspective.  It certainly has cost less damage in property and fewer lost lives in 2011 in America than did OWS.

No, they weren’t portraying an accurate picture so that we can all live in blissfull ignorance.
 
I spent 3 years in the middle east dude…I’ve seen the endgame…and believe me, that wasn’t it.
 
I want want to see a real American muslim family, not some hip, neo muslim knock off, that would never stand up to sharia law.
 
Once they start showing the women riding in the back of the car, dad punching mom because she bought a cucumber at the store, sis getting married off to a 50 year old man at the age of 15, then I’ll watch it.  Because then it will become educational and informative versus misleading.

 Yes, son, you are much more engaged by perceptive comments like:

“LOL @ this Tea Bagger Troll.”

or perhaps:

“You’re a much nicer person since you’ve come out of the closet.”

Yeah, that’s the type of discourse that you as a pathetic hypocritical and sanctimonious lib find evocative.

When I want your opinion , I will give it to ya, until them, kindly STFU!

I’m guessing you aren’t familiar with the IRA? But let’s completely disregard the fact that it was a land conflict with the English. They committed terrorism in England because they were Christians. Oh and it’s definitely an integral part of the “savage Irish culture.”

And OWS cost fewer lives than good ol’ fashioned American homelessness, pal.

But son, what did they call the IRA? Terrorist!

Aww, cute, once again Republicans fail to take into consideration that parties change over time. Let’s completely disregard the fact that many racists switched over to the Republican party during the Civil Rights movement. The Democrat Party of the 19th and early 20th century = the Democrat Party of the 21st century.

If I really went out of my way, I could find much content for Christian terrorists too. Where exactly are you trying to go with this? Muslims are inherently violent?

Oh, and of course, no Muslims have ever condemned the acts of terrorism. Ever. A huge majority approve of it. Yep. That doesn’t seem ridiculous at all. God, how can you actually believe this?

“If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel”

Censure,

The Israelis are not strapping bombs to their children and then photographing a family photo for the world to see their dedication to the “cause”.  The Israelis do not set up rocket firepoints in playgrounds full of their own children in order either prevent retaliatory fire, or force their enemy to fire back thus killing their own children to feed the propaganda.  The Israelis do not seek out busloads of school age kids to climb into in order to detonate a suicide vest.
 
And above all, the Israelis to not gather in the streets cheering when innocent Palestinians are killed. 
 
Then, the group that has perpetuated these acts for decades was not elected as the new government authority in an overwhelming majority by the Israelis either.
 
Everything I described to you happens regularly, and yes…it is evil to its core..
 
The only person looking at this from a fantasy perspective is you…
 
There are no good guys, but there are certainly bad guys..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircyw2bnWpg

Let’s stick to this century, shall we?

And OWS cost fewer lives than good ol’ fashioned American homelessness, pal”

I glad you mention homelessness, son.

Let’ see what what has happened under the Obama administration:

“Homeless children at record high in US under Obama.”

Posted by EducationViews.org on December 14, 2011 in News of the Day
|
One out of every 45 children – some 1.6 million – is homeless,
according to a report released Tuesday. That number surpasses the one
set after hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

More children than ever before in America are going to sleep at night without a home to call their own.”

Yes, Obama has a mess of everything.

Thanks for bringing it up.

It’s a damn shame. This is what striving for ignorance has brought us. There is no reason you should have had to explain that, Alex. That Vittert even stated that demonstrates bias. Pretend Mediaite hired a new columnist named Muhammad. Pretend Muhammad wrote a column on the NATO strike that killed soldiers in Pakistan. Pretend that in that column Muhammad stated the strike was “clear evidence shattering the illusion that imperialists killers are fighting terror, when in reality they are bloodthirsty warmongers hellbent on world domination.” I’d bet my bottom dollar that the same people calling out Alex would find that to be biased.

Once again, you show your complete inability at grasping a simple point. Congratulations. Here, I’ll spell it out for you:

The fact that the IRA were Christians does not mean that all Christians approved of those acts. The fact that the IRA were Christians does not mean that all Christians are inherently violent.

I had no idea you were such a powerful force in driving global thinking, Alex. Congrats!

Yeah. Suicide bombing requires both work and a deep commitment. Not gonna happen.

OSTL, why did you hit like on a comment desiring that Americans with differing views be sent to GITMO for life?

Yeap, the ol’ party change over line…

Sometime in the 1960′s LBJ yelled “SWITCH!” and all the GOP and dems hopped over to the other side of the isle….except Sen Byrd (D) who was a a Klann meeting at the time…he didn’t get the memo.

And until then, the dems were repubs and vice-versa.

Like FDR….he was really a republican since he was a dem before the switch.

Your fictions is wonderfull.

That. Was. The. Point.

Show me the bill that passed the House and Senate that Obama signed where he proudly proclaimed that this new law would put millions of children out of their homes and into the street, pal.

As for your comment regarding your ability to find “much content” on Christian terrorism……lets go pound for pound shall we.

You find one incident, and I’ll match it with three….sound fair?

It’s not nice to brag that you can read.

Poor boy, that doesn’t  refute what I posted. And your strawman is so, so hilarious- Show one person on here who sated ALL Muslims are bombers.

Go ahead- you make up complete assertions out of whole cloth that NO ONE has asserted and then proceed to argue that the assertion that YOU conceived  is falacious.

Man, it don’t get any funnier than that!

BTW, Monsieur Verdoux was much more sagacious and entertaining than you.

Wow. 

Your. Point. Is. Weak.

Who said there aren’t any bad guys self righteous? I certainly didn’t. Since you started this conversation between the two of us by saying I’m getting the cause and effect mixed up, answer the following question. Do you think there has never been an incident in which Israel has killed an innocent Palestinian? If you acknowledge that there has been, then what are you arguing with me about?

son, he didn’t need a bill- it just took his policies to do it.

Refute that there are record homeless children in the USA.

And the methods used by the UK to squelch the IRA we have no issue with either….thats what your not grasping.

I’m glad 3 years in The Middle East has made you an expert on the peoples there. Of course I have been to the Middle East myself, and know people that have spent more time there than either of us, who would disagree with your assessment. How many AMERICAN Muslims do you know? I mean KNOW. I’m not talking about the neighbor you don’t really talk to down the street, or the guy you laugh at at work.

The legislation that addressed that, was part of the “War on Poverty” in the sixties…and we’ve been blessed with a rising poverty level ever since…

To which policies are you referring, pal? The only policies enacted into actual law by Obama were compromises with, and outright caves to, the GOP right-wing, so in that respect I agree with you,

Nah, some of us are wondering how she’s not in incarceration. 

Hahahahaha, wooooow, really? You’re really trying to argue that the overwhelming consensus amongst many Republicans isn’t that Islam is a religion of violence? My god, it’s worse than I thought.

Someone snuck sand in Stoner’s panties again.

BEST COMMENT EVER :) :)

That’s why they want to put a statute of limitations on the examples you bring up. People in a position of power have less need to commit crimes. There’s a couple of reasons for this. People in power often influence what is considered a crime. Also, crime disrupts the status quo, which benefits those already in power. They can’t acknowledge the examples you bring up because to do that they would have to admit that, while they are trying to scare you with the boogeyman of the Muslim trying to conquer the world, European Christians have actually done it. 

I think i have a lib who wants to get into SP’s panties.

Wow, lovely demonstration of the “shifting the goal posts” fallacy. Yes, that’s EXACTLY what we’ve been discussing this whole time: how a country should respond to terrorism.

LOL

You just changed the subject again, because you got nailed. Son show one person on here who said ALL Muslims are terrorists?

MG- you really have the attention span of a fly.

Man, this is just too easy.

Motivations? She’s a religious fanatic and an idiot from a culture that can’t build anything or be productive. Even in 2011 they’re using frickin’ donkeys. They always tell you what they’re against but not what they’re for. That’s cuz they’re not for anything. Islam only exists as a foil against non-Islamic cultures and the whole religion is built around that concept. When there is no foil, Islam takes long sleepy-time naps as there is no culture that actually invents things to get a momentary drug fix from. I’m surprised they don’t worship their cell phones since those are a mystery they will never solve.

Your complete lack of nuance is enlightening. Yes, that’s EXACTLY how things work. One person just says “switch parties” and it happens. It’s not something that happens progressively.

I don’t recall Al Gore becoming a Republican.

“I love that you can’t address your peaceful Muslim friends doing what they do best- killing innocent people.”

Guess who said that.

Go look at a poverty rate chart since the sixties. Explain those mountains in the 1980s and early 2000s and those huge valleys in the 1960s and 1990s.

Of course there hase been an incident of an israli killing a palestinian….the difference is, that a deliberate, non-retalitory attack on palestinians is rare….and usually done for pre-emptive reasons.

Your said in your posts:

“You look at the conflict between these groups and think there’s one side consisting of the good guys who never do wrong and the bad guys who sit around the conspiracy table plotting new evils on a daily basis”

As I said, there are no good guys, but “bad guys sitting around plotting new evils on a daily basis” is 100% accurate….those guys are called Hamas, and they have been elected through overhwhelming majority, as the leaders of the Palestinian people.

What I’m arguing with you, is this.  Isreal wants peace.  Isreal has conceded time and time again in an effort to reach peace and compromise, and every time Hamas blows it….often quite litterly.

Hamas will not stop until they are collectivly locked in a cage with the people who support them, or are successfull in their ultimate goal….there are no other options.   The quicker we all realize this, the better we will all understand why things happen the way they do over there. 

OWS is homelessness! Deliberate, intentional homelessness.

Stupid brain-washed woman.  A zealot, regardless of which prophet they bow to, cannot be rehabilitated. 

What bill did he sign that said record numbers of Americans would be on food stamps? There wasn’t one! And yet, here we are…

You’re an idiot: even the fanatical Japanese surrendered. The Eastern Confederate army surrendered at the end of the Civil War cuz they weren’t fanatical idiots. There, you have context and proportion. If Americans were like these idiots Vicksburg would be like the West Bank today. Please don’t act like all cultures and people are the same. Some people are plain stupid.

Ah, so Obama can only do the GOP’s bidding? Well, if the GOP doesn’t want him either, let’s vote him out!

I agree.

Poor censure- you lose again.

Where do I state “ALL Muslims?

No where.

Now STFU.

I will never understand extreme conservatives and religious zealots.  Hatred is such a waste of a human being.

On a less morally repugnant note, I wish so-called news channels would allow for longer interviews.  The 24/7 news channel has just destroyed in-depth reporting, although I’m sure the average attention span has something to do with it, too.

Quantifying violence. Yes, that’ll certainly help us progress in this discussion. What point are you even trying to make? Muslim extremists commit a lot of acts of violence? No shit, sherlock. I’m honestly not going to bother wasting my time trying to find violent acts of Christian extremists which, no doubt, happen in politically unstable countries. Of the top of my head, I can tell you Christians have committed violence in Ivory Coast, Uganda, the Balkans, Sudan, Ireland, Pakistan, etc, etc… Now, you’d be correct in pointing out that there’s a specific context for each of those. Good job.

The point I’ve been trying to make is that this type of violence isn’t just inherent to Muslims.

So, then, you should be concerned that Newt wishes to instill a work ethic and sense of commitment in poor black children cleaning toilets. Lord only knows to where that might lead, eh?

I’m pretty sure I responded DIRECTLY to your point. But if it makes you feel more comfortable to think I went “off topic,” that’s fine. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Yes, Muslims are inherently violent when they don’t dominate a culture compared to other cultures. Read about India Pakistan. Muslims don’t play well with others and their entire history reflects this. You just have to read about it. The Palestinian Arabs before Israel weren’t going to “lose” land, Jews were already living on land they’d purchased. What those Arabs were going to lose was a country dominated by Muslim law and custom and they couldn’t stomach it. They couldn’t stomach the idea of two countries or one country that wasn’t sharia compliant. Read about all the Christian lands conquered by Islam and never recovered. Compare it to Islamic land conquered by Christians and never recovered and the difference is there is none. Read a book fer cryin’ out loud. The only people who ever got back land are Indians and the Spanish. And when yer done with that ask yourself where the cultures are who were conquered. Where is the culture of Persia pre-Islam.

son, more living in poverty NOW!!!!!!!!!

Do YOU even live in the USA?

MG are you ignorant!

”
Number of Americans in poverty at record high”
Almost 16 percent of country, 49.1 million, now meet criteria, Census Bureau says

11/7/2011 3:05:08 PM ET

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45195014/ns/business-eye_on_the_economy/t/number-americans-poverty-record-high/%23.TsKxl7LNnON#.TvDw6tVTmq8

Hell, I’ll match it with 20.

No shit you didn’t state “ALL Muslims.” I don’t think even you’re that dumb. However, something tells me you don’t see Islam as a religion of peace. Heck, your nice little end comment “View the video as the top of the page” speaks for itself. People kill people. Good job on that one. What an astute observation.

You did, son- you were alleging that people said ALL Muslims were terrorists but that was something you fabricated so the you could argue the falsity of it.

But poor, thing- it was YOU who proffered that canard, no one else!!

Tsk, tsk.

You must really feel embarrassed now. I mean, you make up an false assertion so that YOU can attack it!

ROTFLMAO

Man, you must be one lonely whack-job lib.

Perhaps the same thing could happen for you? What exactly are you “Buck_Down” for? I know you don’t hunt deer. Neither would I, unless they were the last option to eat.

My mother’s sister is married to one, and has been for the last 25 years….and shall we say..the picture painted in “American Muslim” is not accurate.

And since you’ve been in the middle east for so long, than surely you are completely aware of the subjugation of women, and monumental human rights violations perpetuated over there as well as the creeping grip sharia is seizing in the growing muslim communities in the UK…a western society no less…right?

MG- I struck a nerve in MonsieurA- he is having a meltdown on aisle – show us some sparks, skippy!

The IRA didn’t ram planes into buildings in other countries and they HAD a country that had been actually conquered, not a no-man’s land with no nation status. The Palestinian Arabs rejected compromise and went for it all. They got nothing and nothing is what they still have and will have until they get over this stupid notion that loser takes all. You didn’t hear the Palestinian Arabs whining about nationhood while under the Ottomans for 400 years. Ironically it was only when freed by the British they got on board with Western legalese about countries but bit off more than they could chew.

Which Obama policy sent more living in poverty NOW????

Haven’t we talked about you finally accepting your sexuality and coming out of the closet, you keep expressing your interest in your latent homosexual desires to tea bag your Lib buddies so do it already and shut up about it.

Poor huff, Barry is pres- and THESE are happening on HIS watch- end of story!

I’m taking bets on whether or not this story makes the network news tonight…..(Fox is cable) You covered it though Alex, so good for you. I think there is a considerable amount of evidence that suggests Keevas is correct in his assertion that this crazed woman is not that unique of a phenomenon in the ME, sadly.

No dude..the point is going right by you, even with all your smug condescension….

The point is, that ruthless and hatefull violence against innocent people in the name of a religion is and has been for a very long time, been dominated by one group.

You can muddy the waters all you want with crap from 200 years ago, or some rouge report about terrosits quakers in Moscow, but that does not change reality….and your inability to accept whats going on is astounding.

Yes, the IRA was the IRA, and they alone were responsible for their acts of terrorism.

The list of Islamic terrorist groups is long and widespread. The US list of terrorist groups has 49 organizations on it. 34 of them are Islamic.

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

You were right to point out the fact of Vittert’s bias.  As soon as he said that, “our interview certainly shatters the illusion that those driven by hate can ever change”, my mind flashed back to a documentary with a 20 year old Palestenian trying to make a difference after realizing how he had been used when a device he was carrying failed to detonate when he was 13 years old.  This young man still hated Isreal but realized as a kid he had been brainwashed and used.

Religion poisons minds.

And 9/11 happened on George W. Bush’s watch- end of that story, too, eh, pal?

I would argue that Bibi is coming from a biased position, wouldn’t you?

You’re against work ethic and commitment? Interesting.

No, you’re right, the IRA just bombed buses.

I don’t quite get where you’re trying to go with your distinction. The fact that the Ottoman Empire was dissolved somehow makes it okay to disregard the people’s right to self-determination? You can’t exactly call it a “no man’s land” if roughly the same group of people had been living there for the past millennium.

Well said, but I don’t think Alex is the bad guy here. Long articles are not Mediates’ forte and it wasn’t a TC drive-by. I hadn’t seen this report yet so at least she brought the subject up to the good readers of Mediate.

Hard to believe she got just 12 years in jail for original crime, and even harder to believe they would release this nut.

Or not. Depending.

There must be something wrong with the Disqus format, because that’s not at all the point I was addressing here.

Totally. Hey kunt, if you hate your life so much, kill yourself in a remote area where you will not even harm a crawling ant. I despise these despicable, shit-brained fanatics. If hell does exist, it surely deserves occupants such as herself and her ilk.

…only to power wash.

I’m not giving them a pass because I’m not decrying troll behavior.  I’m pointing out the absurdity of you asking for substantive replies when we all know well and good that your response to such replies will have no substance and will consist of nothing more than some variation of ‘lib’ insult and the use of ‘son’ as pejorative. 

So, then, you should be concerned that Newt wishes to instill a work
ethic and sense of commitment in poor black children cleaning toilets.”

Wow- what a racist statement- Newt NEVER said anything about black kids- he said poor kids and there are more poor whites than blacks.

 I mean, his idea is horrible , right? No one , certainly NO LIB would ever countenance such a program would they?

But let’ see what uber liberal Joe Klein of Time magazine says about Newt’s proposal:

“As early as 1990, Gingrich was paying poor children in Atlanta $2 for
every book they read. He also proposed paying foreign-language-speaking
students to tutor their English-speaking classmates in their native
languages. He also proposed giving every literate child in the poorest
neighborhoods a laptop.

His recent idea of paying poor kids to
help clean their schools–which has been the subject of a shrill, silly
gust of liberal ire–is more of the same.

It’s a good
idea, which would be much better if it were expanded to all public
middle and high schools, with the work seen as an unpaid form of public
service, a way to build community spirit and teach civic responsibility.”

Wow, now you sound like the racist!

I agree with this comment totally. Hell let’s assume the Palestinians are given their own “sovereign” land right next to Israel, they will CONTINUE targeting the Israelis. In this context when I talk about “Palestinians” I am referring to their militant groups.

The 1000+ to 1 exchange is not good math and then they want us to send our soldiers to come to the rescue?

No thanks!

Smug condescension? I’m sorry if I struck a nerve, my dear.

The point is, you just pulled that out of your ass. If you’re going to consider counterpoints “muddying the water” because it goes against your preconceived notions, have at it. Have you ever considered that Muslims are often the ones we see committing acts of violence because many of them live in a politically and economically unstable region? I’m sure I don’t need to point out examples of Christians committing acts of violence in unstable regions because that’d just be “muddying the waters,” right?

What I’ve been trying to say is that the common idea that “Islam is a religion of violence” is just pure BS. All religions have had their share of extreme violence.

LOL

Son, you wrote:

Monsieur A: “The fact that the IRA were Christians does not mean that ALL Christians are inherently violent. ”

No one was saying ALL Muslims were terrorists and THAT is the canard you have been arguing!

You’re for suicide bombers? Interesting.

(cough)BULLSHIT(cough)

You’re deflecting, pal.

No bias here.

shogan, son, my posts are so unsubstantial  that I have all these people responding to my posts.

You are total phony who offers nothing but troll rejoinders and jejune pablum.

You have nothing of substance to offer anyone – you have only your whiny, splenetic, callow, juvenile  counters.

And spare me your whining about the word “lib” when your trog pals constantly refer to conservatives as “teabaggers”, etc.

You are a truly worthless piece of discardable unattractive  flesh.

We could argue on for hours. Here’s where the argument began. You said I had cause and effect mixed up. Unless you can say there has never been an act by Israel, or an Israeli, that has resulted in harm to innocent Palestinians, you have no argument.

“Some people are plain stupid.”

Your bigoted existence is proof of that.

and they have for the most part disarmed. You don’t hear about many IRA suicide bombings. I have my doubts as to how much religion, as compared to business, was the main motivation behind that conflict.

“Poor censure- you lose again.

Where do I state ‘ALL Muslims?”

Nowhere. That’s the point. I never claimed you did. You’re so predictable. You never said “All Muslims,” and I never stated that you did. Now, given the context and what was posted it’s easy to see how our comments might imply something neither of us directly said. At the end of the day, we both know what we meant to imply.   

Oh please, that’s absolutely ridiculous. People conquer people. Are you honestly telling me that Islam is the main reason they conquered? Look at human history. Hell, look at the last century. The British, the French, the Belgians, the Germans. All Christians. People are inherently violent when their culture doesn’t dominate another culture. Arab Muslims have just found themselves in a rather shit situation in our modern world. That doesn’t excuse their violence, but don’t try and shoehorn this on the back of Islam.

Although he did note it was “outside a hospital” he might have done better to also note  that it was the hospital that had treated her at some earlier point.

Your mother’s sister is married to one? That would be your aunt, btw. You must be close. Do you KNOW him? How many more Muslims do you know? I assume someone as bright as you wouldn’t make blanket assertions on all Muslim Americans based off of such a small sample size. It’s amazing how people are worried about Sharia law now, though Muslims have been in this country for generations.

My god, you really are a slow one, aren’t you? I was using a hypothetical. Do you really want me to rephrase that or do you honestly think I was arguing that you thought each and every Muslim was a terrorist? The general impression I’ve been getting from most Republicans is that Islam is a religion of violence and most Muslims are barbarians that wish to conquer our civilization. If that’s not what you believe, then that’s great. I guess you’re not the type of person to cry about “creeping Sharia” and “Taqiyah” then? Awesome! :-)

Why would an exclusive interview by Fox make the other networks? Take away the actual interview and you aren’t left with much. A homicidal suicide bomber is suicidal and still desires to kill. That’s not much of a revelation. The better angle for a story would be to question why Israel would release 1,000 prisoners for 1 soldier.

Actually, I think “culture” isn’t as directly tied to it as Islam is.

We have increasing examples of western converts to Islam choosing to embrace Jihad.  That indicates it is religiously based rather than culturally based.

She wants to be a journalist. Maybe MSNBC will hire her, or Obama will make her a suicide Czar

You just don’t get it.One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.It’s not about self destruction.

I would argue that Bibi is speaking from experience and that all available evidence supports his statement.

Missy, you really need to get your head out of your ass.

That’s easy. Israelis value life.

You’re flailing, pal.

When did they ask us to send troops? Never.

Of course they do. I’m sure none of the “Fast and Furious” crowd would howl for our president’s impeachment if he released 1,000 terrorists for the release of a soldier who put his life on the line to keep his country safe from such terrorists.

Pablo, why did you hit “like” on the following statement that James posted?

“Motivations? She’s a religious fanatic and an idiot from a culture that
can’t build anything or be productive. Even in 2011 they’re using
frickin’ donkeys. They always tell you what they’re against but not what
they’re for. That’s cuz they’re not for anything. Islam only exists as a
foil against non-Islamic cultures and the whole religion is built
around that concept. When there is no foil, Islam takes long sleepy-time
naps as there is no culture that actually invents things to get a
momentary drug fix from. I’m surprised they don’t worship their cell
phones since those are a mystery they will never solve.”

Stonedputz, you and the 3 retards that gave you likes are confused poor examples of human beings.  You are a meth addict and a teabagger whore.

ISLAM poisons minds.

@readers:disqus my best friend’s aunt makes $87 an hour on the computer. and last month her pay was $7299 , she learned Kelly Richard’s ways in “Online income solutions”… MakeCash1. com

@censure EXACTLY! 

Yes.  I dread Sunday mornings on the freeway as all those Christians head off to churches while looking for aposphates to behead, women to throw into chains, children to sell off as slaves, and of course they are always hanging around the “suicide-r-u” suicide bomb vest shops Christians have all over America….

I do get it, shitforbrains. Never is it justifiable to engage non-combatants, ever! If this woman was in uniform, she would be court-martialed and executed for war crimes.

Ah yes, because poisoning of minds can only be connected to beheadings. Genius!

But in all seriousness, Islam is clearly the worst offender. No one, at least I hope, would deny that. However, your comment still makes me think like you have no clue what you’re talking about. No one is making that argument against christians. But when they try to teach children garbage in schools… then the poison shows.

Here’s a good one. Each side is represented and I win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vA0OcQ6cTI

Not yet.  However any candidate that takes the position of letting Israel handle their own business is labeled antisemitic.

Should have strapped that bomb back on her with a short timer and drop her home post haste.

JESUS FREAKING CHRIST! I can picture @stoneparkIV:disqus now! Sitting on her beat up, wooden folding chair, with her crusty santa hat and a white long tshirt stained with a strange mix of drool and santorum!   Her big mac, special sauce  infected butt pours from the sides of the chair like a bowl of overflowing, rancid cottage cheese . Her greasy, stubby little digits plugging away at the keys of her Windows 95 PC, banging her head against her hand me down CRT monitor because her AOL dial up isnt working on her side of the trailer park. . Its OK stoney, its OK! its almost the 1st of the month, youll be getting your welfare check soon and you can pay your pre paid cell phone then…

hmmm
willing to die for god to spend eternity in heaven..
at the cost of those who do not agree?
hmmm
that sound familiar….
RELIGION IF IT WON’T KILL YA–IT WILL AT LEAST MAKE YOU PRAY FOR DEATH–and if you can take some other folks with ya….
praise the lord…

do you think Christians can bomb abortion clinics?
invade countries?
drop bombs on schools?
hang black people?
rape young boys?

tell me when you want me to stop the list of horror of the faithful..
how is her suicide bomb different than a missile?
oh ya–missIles are not personal!
LOSER~

kind of like Christians of old huh?

remember the settlers driving mules across america? killing Indians? beating and raping and killing blacks???
ya–funny how christians hate what they were and still are..they just do with with less personal touch..

if there were no religion–it would not be an issue…

they are just dropping bombs…
i bet if the Palestinians has missiles and war plane..
they may not count on rocks and suicide bomber too?
i believe that was part of negotiations..
it was offered an exchange of suicide bomber baby carriages for modern weaponry..
i always love how those with the fancier guns that kill more people–say they are more pious..
this is truly the planet of the apes
dumbasses~

most are..

just like most christians are..
but it is the radicals that cause the problems..
you know–people like YOU~

so all Christians are bomber of abortion clinics? racists? child rapists?

how many muslims have raped boys at the mosques?
how many blacks have they killed and enslaved?
how many have been busted for deviant homosexual behavior?
please enlighten me..
shit for brains?

lets see–MILLIONS IN IRAQ DEAD OR LIVES DESTROYED DUE TO CHRISTIAN AMERICAN INVASION..
a country that did not attack us…

no matter what you say–Christians have killed more people and destroyed more lives than all other suck ass religions combined..

how about them puritans huh?
burning women at the stake?mmmm
enslaving and torturing blacks and Indians…oh ya

and who was it that hated Christmas?
hristmas celebrations in Puritan New England (1620–1850?) were culturally and legally suppressed and thus, virtually non-existent 

i guess you all forgot about YOUR FOUNDERS HUH?

you mean the putting biblical quotes on bombs before sending into iraqi cities?

These are the psychos that Israel is expected to negotiate with. 

What the hell are you talking about ?? And don’t call yourself Joe, It’s an insult to Joe..

Censure, you being so utterly full of crap as to stuff your words into my mouth and then denounce them, I’m going to suggest that you GFY.

And why did I “Like” that statement? It’s true. Gaza is beyond hopeless.

Like who? And says who? Names please.

Hey bigot, nice of you to try to sneak in with a reply long after the fact. I figured you would. “A culture that can’t build anything or be productive” huh? Not only are you a bigot, but you have no balls. You let James say what you’re really thinking and then hit like on it. Grow a set.

Capitalizing on the nuts in society to take away your freedoms. Is it time to justify occupation of the Palestine and subsequently America? Sorry, Americans are wide awake!

I think that suicide Bomber is react as a strange with anyone.That Video  is very Interesting and dangerous
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111213223631AADikE9

The enormous majority of people killed in Iraq were killed by Muslims.

Get help, realjoe.

Long after? 4 hours? Did you think I was sitting and waiting to say something until I saw your comment, and then I had to sit and think about it? And you think I have some sort of shyness about speaking my mind? Now that’s funny. Grow up, child.

As for Gaza, they build crappy rockets and hate factories. If not for Israel and the UN they’d be back in tents and starving to death. Beyond hopeless.

Wow! Tell us more!!! :-

An unrepentant would-be murderer  gets to be free in her country. I do not care about  you, no matter what your reasons for wanting to murder sick people in a hospital. She is a disgusting piece of shit. 

You are a dumb ass.Do you think there is some sort of rules of engagement?If the jews would stop stealing and occupying land,returned to their 1967 borders and embraced a two state solution,just maybe there could be a chance for peace.It’s extremely difficult to settle a blood feud.

What is she thinking?  Third time’s a charm?

As long as people think there is “Paradise” waiting for them if they kill others, they will repeat their behavior.

Man, what God can she possibly be praying to?

So what if it’s a blood feud? It doesn’t mean you go breaking all kinds of engagement rules at will, and yes, they are there for a reason. This woman would be a combatant. I was explicitly talking about those who aren’t, like the millions of innocent Iraqis who have died as collateral damage from that war. Pay attention, shitforbrains.