‘Are You Going to Let Me Answer?’ Liz Cheney and Bret Baier Throw Down Over Comparing Trump to Biden On Ignoring Rule of Law
Former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), once the chair of the Republican Conference, sparred with Fox News anchor Bret Baier on Monday after Baier pushed Cheney on whether or not she is equally critical of President Joe Biden as she is of former President Donald Trump.
The interview began with Cheney repeating her warning that Trump returning to the White House is a grave threat to American democracy as he vows to run roughshod over the rule of law in the country. Baier then quoted from a recent op-ed accusing Biden of doing the same thing.
“This is the Wall Street Journal. This is not a MAGA, you know, op-ed here. And they say, ‘Trump as dictator is a classic case of projection.'”
After Baier finished reading the full quote, Cheney replied, “Well, I think they’re wrong.”
“I think if you, again, if you look at, we don’t have to guess about what next President Trump would do, because he did it before,” she added, arguing a second Trump term will be untethered from the guardrails that prevented his worst impulses the first time around.
“Right. But what about the point it made in this op-ed, specifically and I understand what you’re saying about the former president, what you feel about what would happen, but you haven’t been but you haven’t been vocal about President Biden’s executive orders to cancel student loans,” Baier said as Cheney interjected they are “very different.”
The two spoke over each other until Cheney could be heard saying “Are you going to let me answer?”
“Yeah, I am. Just let me list them,” Baier replied, adding:
After the SCOTUS ruled against it, he still uses regulatory means to write off, you know, the student debt, wall off 1.5 million acres of land for fossil fuel. What this basically is saying is that there are things that have been done outside of the rule of federal courts that you haven’t weighed in on.
“Well, first of all, I don’t think it’s true that I haven’t weighed in on those. And I think a lot of those if you look at the kinds of things that he’s done with respect, for example, to energy policy, with respect to setting aside lands across the West, I’ve been very vocal that I think those policies are wrong. It’s very different from a president. And look, you wrote a book about George Washington. The last chapter of your book is called, ‘The Gift of a Peaceful Transition of Power.’ That’s what we’re talking about,” Cheney replied.
“But this is not about me,” Baier shot back.
“That’s right. But that’s a very important concept. Let me finish my answer,” Cheney continued, concluding:
Because every single president, Republican and Democrat, since George Washington, has ensured the peaceful transition of power. Donald Trump tried to seize power. So we can disagree with Biden policies, but the fact that he tried to seize power, the fact that he ignored the rulings of 61 courts, the fact that he ignored his own attorney general, his own White House counsel, who told him what he was saying about the election was false. It wasn’t true.
His claims were false, and he went out and made them anyway, knowing that. The extent to which he, while a violent mob was assaulting the Capitol, he wouldn’t tell them to leave. Instead, he tweeted against his own vice president and he poured fuel on the flames. Those are lines that can’t be crossed. And look, this isn’t about policy. I voted with Donald Trump 93% of the time. This is about the nation. It’s about the republic. It’s about the Constitution.
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