The GOP has always been the anti-science party.  This is no secret.

What a desperate, babbling fool this clown has turned out to be. Remember folks, the Gores made the fortune as tobacco farmers-if memory serves correctly there is a history of slaver ownership on plantations that if somebody wanted to scratch the surface a little, it might to turn out the Gores were, dare we say it, slave owners.

Klimate Krazy Klan

Methane escapes from the sea floor into the atmosphere.  Poor people in remote areas cook and warm themselves with wood-fuelled fires.  These problems are so severe and unstoppable, that eliminating all ozone-harmful gasses from the developed world won’t stop the climate from warming.

Buy Canada real estate, far from the coastline.

The Democrats owned slavery-why is it again that the Obamacalypse hasn’t rebuilt the levies in New Orleans?

Will be it long before a teatard candidate declares the world flat

CO2 is created with every breath we take and every utterance we make. If Al Gore would stop opening his fat pie-hole the earth would benefit so much, if you believe in his fraud, just saying’!

Al Gore didn’t get the “new civility” memo.
I’d like to know what he said to Al Gore Sr. when he opposed the 1964 CRA.

AlGore. Desperately seeking relevance.  And his mind.

Don’t know…perhaps you could ask the Republicans who never want to pay for anything..

This whole “racist” thing is working out just marvelously for the Dems…isn’t it? 

The far-right jesus freaks believe if it’s not in their bible it can’t be true.

What an idiot !!
Is Al still calling for an American Spring?

[With everything but the violence of course!1]

So basically you’re saying that Obama is a useless, ineffective dullard without an idea in his empty head and exists only to make his fortune from the back-room deals he made concerning Obamacare. At last, and left-wing POS who has an ounce of honesty. Thanks ‘Crupt!

There it is.. when all arguments fail, just cast everyone as a racist. Great job, Al!

Well, considering Al Gore invented the Internet, maybe he can invent a way to end racism?

thats some leader you have, the loser cant even win when he had a super majority. maybe you shouldnt elect a retard next time…

Right, because Democrats don’t deny the scientific fact that life begins at conception or that a fetus is a human being. Besides, most of us believe in evolution and climate change, we just don’t want to run around scaring the hell out of people and rape the private sector to dictate what people do with their lives.

If there were money to be made on that theory… Gore would surely be in there pitching it !!

The Amygdala Strain: Right-Wing Teabaggery as Psychological Pandemic

With the ascendency of a barefaced buffoon to the apex of right-wing
politics some began to suspect that conservatism was not just a political disposition. 
And as George W. Bush’s corporate-Jesus coalition evolved into a throng
that could call Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and now Rick Perry its
own, Republicanism completed its transition from political ideology into psychological disorder …
Article:
http://beeryblog.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/the-amygdala-strain-right-wing-teabaggery-as-psychological-pandemic/

Analysis of the disloyal opposition.

By polishing up on his use of the race card… Al is tipping his hand that he’s strongly considering a primary run against ObamAA+ in 2012

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/18/new-view-cohost-sherri-sh_n_64864.html
I never knew Sherri Shepherd was a “teatard”.

LOL!! Look at all the far-right kooks blabbering here. Al Gore lives in their heads rent free.

Gore has a big carbon footprint and built a new mansion on the sea shore that according to him is rising fast. His father voted against the civil rights act. The family money came from tobacco and that means ownership of slaves. Why would anyone listen to this hypocrite? He has made it clear that he doesn’t believe what he is preaching.

Robert Byrd, George Wallace, etc., all DemoKKKrats. Nice to see you agree that the ‘Crupts owned slavery.

DemoKKKrats!

Gore would know about 20th Century racists; his father voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Heard ‘The Left are all surgically implanting bombs up their tooters for Jihad!

Actually the GOP is pro science and the AL Gore and the democrats are anti science.  The liberals like Gore and the cult members of global warming fail to use the scientific method for there theories.   No matter what theory exists on any subject the science on it is never settled.  Thats why theories rise and fall with new ones replacing the old ones. 

You see mankind’s current understand of natural climate change is extremely limited.  Its equivalent to a child reading abilities that yesterday just learned its abc’s. Thats why every computer model fails to predict what the scientists had expected to occur.  There are many factors science just doesn’t fully understand one is Clouds with its formation is a major one and effect on climate change.  ALso an increase of cosmic rays hitting the earth when the sun isnt as active is believed to relate to climate change.  So many factors but our current understand of the universe is extremely limited. 

For an education of the subject. 
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100102296/sun-causes-climate-change-shock/

We’re all waiting for Big Al to invent a way to end Big Al, he’s such a savant!

Hey !     Don’t rub AlGore the wrong way !

No tip !

since no one has done it yet…

 ManBearPig!!

Ah the old race card.  I watched Chris “tingles” Matthews this morning doing his best to advance the oppose Obama your a racist meme.  Being called a racist these days is like being called a stupid face back in the 50′s.  No one cares.

There will be a lot of things teabagger parents will have to answer for in the future…

Climate change denial
Teaching creationism in schools
Mosque protesting
Gay discrimination
Birtherism

…and Glenn Beck.

I understand many of the posters do not like Vice President Gore.  Fair enough.  What I cannot fathom is the depth of ignorance displayed here.  Climates scientists overwhelmingly concur that current global climate change is the result of man’s activities. 

Why is that fact any different to people than scientific consensus on medical treatments.  When it comes to medical treatment most of us go with the preponderance of scientific evidence.  That’s not to say some people will treat strep throat with acupuncture but they are the minority.  Claiming global climate change is a hoax is like claiming medical science is a hoax.

Even if you think climate scientists are almost all lying – why would they?  I mean if its grants they are looking for they should be claiming carbon emissions from big business are helping the environment – big business has big money.  If you are an evil, lying scientist why not go where the money is?

And we’re supposed to take that rant seriously?

1) Al Gore looks like he’s drinking too much- and I suspect the slight slurring of his speech isn’t “old timer’s” but rather “clears.”

2) I call BULLS#IT over Gore casting himself as an advocate for civil rights back when he was young. Given his background and his father’s politics, he wouldn’t have DARED.

3) Gore has made money hand over fist doing his “global warming”/”climate change” propaganda. Along with John Doerr, he has made more money selling his “green” agenda than he ever made at any time in his life. His fortune is inextricably tied to selling his propaganda- and his hypocrisy is massive. Unfortunately, the media is complicit and rarely exposes Gore’s lifestyle of the rich, famous and carbon excessive.

This post illustrates my past statement that; all the dumb people I know are liberals

And this clown wanted to be prez. Gore loves the 20th century so much, he’s still there, where charges of racism actually intimidated people into shutting up. His latest try at shutting down climate change debate is laughable, at best. The genie’s out, and neither he nor anyone else can put him back. Sorry, but Gore’s simply a chump snake oil salesman who’s invested millions in carbon trading technologies while pushing his sky is falling rhetoric. He lost, and now he’s just pissed off.

As I expected.  Mediaite posts a story about Al Gore and the parade of Flat-earthers begins.

Nice article. Seems it is very much in tune what is known as Authoritarian personality.

For somebody who “can’t even win with a super majority”,  Obama gotten quite a bit done.

If he hasn’t gotten anything done, why have we had to listen to you ‘baggers whining for the last 2 years that he’s  ”ramming things down our throats”??  

It’s so hilarious when you wingnuts trip on your own logic.

One moment Obama is an “incompetent loser”….another moment he’s “ramming things down our throats”   Which is it assholes?

But they won’t have to answer for ruining America…Prog/Libs will have to answer for that.

No, never, we’re not Obama-garglers!

“Gore loves the 20th century so much, he’s still there, where charges of racism actually intimidated people into shutting up.”

Um you know in the 1960′s racism was a little more than political correctness.  You are aware of that are you not? 

Now go on TV with Al Sharpton , AlGore , and discuss how this is just like racism .

Hey Olby . Get some 3 in 1 oil for AlGore’s hinges .

Who would have thought Olbermann would be the second most insane guy at  Current TV ?

Poor Al. All those investments he made in his sham-wow green companies are going down the shitter.

He might have to sell his beach house if he can’t demagogue and intimidate the people into submission. Then he would be stuck having to live in his 100 room mansion near all those hicks that he despises in Tennessee.

He knows he deserves so much better than that.

Come on everybody. Let’s blow a few more trillion so Al can stay in his beach house.

Nah. There aren’t that many lefties posting on here yet.

I had not thought of it that way but you are exactly correct.  I was also wondering with many of us on the East Coast just getting our power back whether the posters were predominantly central, midwest and southern flat-earthers.

No one is discriminating against BFD and  Robert (RealRoyalEmperor).

Austin, Tx. , where men are men , with a few exceptions .

It’s an Obamaddict’d ‘Left-wing gargler, of course not!

your mom will never be elected

Not all of us lived at your house.

You’re actually seriously asking that question? Isn’t it obvious the way he phrased his comment?

Duuuuuhhhhhh!

Try changing your name to dontno

Poor Al Gore.  He really is becoming more and more crazed.  This won’t end well.  I hope he doesn’t have access to a gun.  Seriously.

Answer me this…….why do the Al Gore’s of the world continue to attack and smear other scientists who happen to disagree with them? As Big Al loves to say, “climate change is settled”. No it’s not.

‘The Left’s only hope is the traveling circus freak show known as the Obama Pay Back/Vengeance Tour wherein he finally gets his way and destroys America if he is re-elected.

Sorry Al but back in the day nobody was asking their parents why when a human foreskin such as yourself recoils back, rearing your ugly head, anyone even listens or takes you seriously anyway.

And who is going to answer for liberal stupidity that has screwed people since 1932?

And who is going to answer for liberal stupidity that has screwed people since 1932?

so you are saying obama didnt want to rebuild the levies?

That’s a large load of dog squeeze.

Obamaddicts might like to try this on for size:

Democrats owned slavery! Let’s look at some facts (aka “liberal designated hate-speech) about Democrats:

Fought to keep slavery legal.

Founded the KKK.

Imposed Jim Crow laws.

Created the Jim Crow Minstrel to boot  (Thomas D. Rice – D)

Imposed the Dred Scott Decision.

Revoked special field order 15, or “40 Acres and a Mule.

Revoked federal positions for blacks.

Pro segregation in schools and military.

All these things Democrats were for and Republicans  against.

The evening of Earth Day a couple years ago , the Nashville newspaper sent a reporter to Gore’s mansion .

Every light was on .

When AlGore rides a bike or walks or drives a Chevy Volt himself , then he can lecture others .

Ed Begley,Jr . lived that way and he would be someone to respect for walking the walk .
Although he once timed his wife taking a shower , so I don’t know if he’s still around .

Green companies are going out of business all the time and Gore is getting frantic.

Maybe you can explain why there is great evidence that the supposed scientists (y’know, the dweeby little bespectacled government supported grant recipients) lied by altering their own conclusions. If you can explain that, then maybe we can have a serious dialog.

So … rape the private sector by providing tax cuts for small business, by which said small businesses will have more available funds to hire more employees? 

Or do you mean doing away with excessive tax cuts for the wealthy, who simply move money into and around in interest-bearing investments, which does nothing but gain more money for the wealthy?

Or do you mean rape the private sector by passing legislation to make healthcare more accessible for people who otherwise cannot afford it?

I’m amazed by the number of Conservatives who will bitch about how bad things are, yet keep voting for a party which favors solely the wealthy.

You do know, right, that Republicans are currently proposing to raise taxes … on the Middle Class, right? Yet many of them are still pushing for further tax cuts to the wealthy? I’m sure you’re fine with that.

Keep on Obama-gargling Fool! Enjoy it ’til the end-your idiot President* is going bye-bye.

We have the ability to test much of what the GOP is attempting to deny. Much of the global warming denial is a defense to keep drilling in ever more dangerous places; to use the methane ice at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico; to destroy mountain ranges for coal.

Your claims are also untrue. Computer models *do* predict higher global temperatures based on increased levels of greenhouse gases. Yet the GOP wants to raise those levels unchecked.

You’re right, though: climate change theory (not hypothesis, mind you) has changed gradually, as we learn more. We’re aware how global temperatures keep rising. We’re seeing the increase and instability of seasonal changes now. Storms are becoming more powerful. 

But you’re free to believe what you will. In fact, just go burn a pint of oil in protest to knowledge.

But here’s a difference: The carbon dioxide in our bodies come from plats … which absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Coal and oil, on the other hand, are carbon deposits which cannot, in any reasonable amount of time, be re-absorbed from the atmosphere. If we limit our output, become more responsible people, we can slow this effect until we are able to find better ways to recycle carbon from our atmosphere, or even remove it in substantial quantities.

Have you ever tried the most basic of research?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

As to your last question? It’s politics. Many people, including scientists have the philosophy that human beings are a pestilence that needs controlled. This is one way to get people the power to control them.

One more point.

Remember Acid Rain? 10 years of hype, by the majority of scientists? All wrong, according to a 10 year, $100million NAPAP study with the best scientists the feds could find. This is why the elites don’t want another such study.

http://employees.oneonta.edu/blechmjb/jbpages/m205/The%20EPA%20vs_%20Ed%20Krug.htm

Sorry.

so 2 racists…….total.

nice one!

Find out the real facts here: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming.html

That’s Hilarious! LMFAO!

The Obamacalypse’s favorite anchor around the necks of the American people, aka the Chevy Volt is neither green nor economical and sure as hell isn’t selling, why does he push this bullish!t?

Why not?  Everything else is racist. 

I actually feel bad for liberals.  They don’t seem to know how to effectively persuade people with their argument.  Because their argument is always the same….RACIST.  Like pavlov’s dog.  Or a Cyborg.  I haven’t decided which yet.

When you make everything racist, nothing is racist.

How many plaques along the Great Wall of China has the Obamacalypse paid for with the American taxpayer’s money? Any of you left-wing Obama-garglers have an answer for this? LMFAO! heheheheh!

The Democrat party has always been the anti-America party. This is no secret.

yeah what happened generations ago doesn’t make you a racist today i promise

He started losing it long ago, Tipper left him, his WH that he bought didn’t help him….I remember his hissy fit — “He lied to this country” claiming Bush lied about WMD when good ole Al and Slick Willy claimed there were WMD in Iraq long before Bush ever did.

He is one sick puppy – he needs to seek help;

Why is this morbidly obese hypocrite relevant again?  I thought he was thrown away like John Edwards after sexually attacking the masseuse?

By the way, Al Gore Sr., a well known racist, voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act and I’m sure the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree.

Nothing to see here…Al’s a progressive liberal.

Question:  Do teabaggers believe in gravity or is that just Jesus Velcro?

Let’s add Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Sheila Jackson, Chris Matthews, any ‘Crupt that says African American Tea Partiers are sellouts (an old racist diatribe was that Black Men couldn’t use logic or reason for themselves), geez ‘Crupt how long does it take for an Obama-gargler to wake up and smell the Obamacalypse?

This is hilarious. What a jerk!

Gravity happens constantly, and can be tested in a lab under the exact conditions it happens. Global warming is a prediction about what might happen in the future on a planet-wide scale that cannot be tested in a lab, only on computer models that cannot be perfect. See Butterfly Effect explained below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivg7QarDJh4.

Nice try. You fail.

From the man who arguably killed the green movement. What did he hold a grudge against Ralph Nader and decided to discredit the movement while profiting from it? I’m for green energy as long as it doesn’t entail pumping billions of tax dollars into tax exempt General Electric ensuring that the competition of small organizations that have been advancing the technology for years; can’t stand. OMG I’m totally a racist now!

…according to a man with shit for credibility.

Funny thing is is that when he talks about the 20th century Racists he is talking about his dad…

William Gray Professor Emeritus and head of The Tropical Meteorology Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University:

“This small warming is likely a result of the natural alterations in
global ocean currents which are driven by ocean salinity variations.
Ocean circulation variations are as yet little understood. Human kind
has little or nothing to do with the recent temperature changes. We are
not that influential.” “I am of the opinion that [global warming] is one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American people.”
“So many people have a vested interest in this global-warming thing—all
these big labs and research and stuff. The idea is to frighten the
public, to get money to study it more.”

From Wikipedia Article.

And actually, the lack of critical thinking is why liberals are liberal. Most liberals, at some point in their lives, had a teacher or professor who was totally cool. And liberal. If someone who’s so cool and smart is also liberal, well, that must be the way to go. Liberals, for the most part, don’t even know why they believe in the causes they believe in, they just know that other liberals believe in it, too, so it must be cool.

Maybe GM should put mini-wind farms and a boatload of solar panels on the Obamacalypse’s favorite vehicle, the Chevy Volt, bet that’ll boost sales.

Anybody remember Barry and Joe (don’t know sh!t) Bidens’ campaign donor’s payback to Solyndra?
http://tinyurl.com/42gr8td

But it does make you a victim, according to the lefties.

Make up your mind.

You must like psychobabble.

However, there is no doubt that DemoKKKrats are exhibit number one that a certain segment of the American populace has some serious guilt issues that surface when they try to lie about who they really are, we’ll just leave it at that.

That is one of the greatest summations of Demo’Crupts and why they all tend to flock like flies to sh!t in a sh!tstorm!

Obamagarglers actually believe that Barry “I’ve never done anything but live off the public dole” Obama knows how to create jobs. Bet he can’t even balance his own checkbook. Of course if you are legally entitled to keep your hand filled at the expense of the American taxpayer, he wouldn’t have to. Right ‘Crupt?

Get real, he’s a southern DemoKKKrat, that pretty much sums it up!

KKKoruption and deceit runs rampant in the hearts and minds of every Obama-gargling ‘Crupt.

Maybe we can get MSNBC to give Gore his own program…  that is something I would get a kick out of…  he could even get Al S. on as a guest..  BTW Sharpton makes a better guest than a host…  something about having the reading ability of a 1st grader…  Run spot run, run we much we must resist running we will much resist much we will.

Global warming global cooling . . .  one thing is certain. This fat fuck hasn’t missed many buffet lines lately.  No wonder Tipper dump his sorry ass.

An article from 1992? Wow, how impressive and so not up to date. I mean it´s only 2011. As far as NAPAP  goes their summary reads as follows introducing their report in 2005 (seems the last one they issued):

Acid deposition, more commonly known as acid rain, occurs when emissions of sulfur dioxide (SO2) and nitrogen oxides (NOx) react in the atmosphere (with water, oxygen, and oxidants) to form various acidic compounds. These acidic compounds then fall to earth in either a wet form (rain, snow, and fog) or a dry form (gases, aerosols, and particles). Prevailing winds transport the acidic compounds hundreds of miles, often across state and national borders. At certain levels the acidic compounds, including small particles such as sulfates and nitrates can cause many negative human health and environmental effects. While ecosystems are subject to many stresses, including land-use changes, climate change, and variations in hydrologic and meteorologic cycles, the scientific literature has clearly demonstrated that these pollutants can:
•
Degrade air quality,
•
Impair visibility,
•
Damage public health,
•
Acidify lakes and streams,
•
Harm sensitive forests,
•
Harm sensitive coastal ecosystems, and
•
Accelerate the decay of building material

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/csd/aqrs/reports/napapreport05.pdf

This is hilarious. After been silent all this while against hi detractors he suddenly comes out swinging hard at them. The reaction will be more entertaining God willing. 

Don’t forget Al Gore’s father.

Al Gore got a “D” in Natural Science in history in college.  That is no secret.

I have yet to see a liberal on this site do little more than call critics of the Global Warming scheme Flat Earthers..  As time goes on there are more and more credible scientists coming out to dispute Global Warming theroy, yet this causes no pause in the progressive dream to turn our economy inside out….

I would like to see you big brains address the latest data and what it means to the Global Warming science.

Talk about Lemmings…. 

“According to Rasmussen Reports, 69% of Americans say it is at least somewhat likely that some climate scientists have falsified research data to support their own theories and beliefs, including 40% who say it is “very likely” scientists have done so. Only 22% of poll respondents do not think it is likely that some scientists have falsified research data, with 10% undecided.
Move up Move down
 Gallery: The World’s Greenest Billionaires

A powerful reason for growing public awareness of flaws in global warming claims, according to Rasmussen Reports, is recent news coverage of a peer-reviewed study documenting how NASA satellite data show more heat is escaping into space than United Nations computer models have predicted.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/08/10/new-rasmussen-poll-sends-al-gore-into-meltdown/

“NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth’s atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA’s Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

“The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show,” Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. “There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans.”

In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.

The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/07/27/new-nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-in-global-warming-alarmism/

too funny, you are a racist if you dont buy man-made climate change, lol   brilliant

Here goes another teabagger going back to the 1800′s – 1960′s to try to label Democrats ricist TODAY.

The scientific community has spoken on climate change and agree it’s real.  The scientists that argue against it are like the scientists in Indonesia and the other third world countries arguing today that it isn’t proven that cigarettes are bad for your health.

He said:”Daddy! When’s room service gonna get here?”

I always say the problem with analogies is usually the anal nature of the people that make them.

There isn’t a sane person left in that garbage party Teapublican.

If only these Libs spoke out as forceful and as often against the real racists back in the 60′s!

Oh, I forgot, they were Democrats implementing Jim Crow, beating blacks in Selma, firing water canons on blacks, standing in the schoolhouse doorway shouting ‘Segregation Forever!’

I don’t trust Big Al. He did a couple of really bone-headed things when he was VP that showed he’s not the brightest bulb. But, to deny that 6.8 billion people living on the planet isn’t having some sort of negative impact is just irresponsible. This should not be a political issue but a common sense one. By making this a political issue and just yelling at each other, we don’t actually have to deal with the problem. Can you say “man-ip-u-lation”? If this keeps up, we all lose.

Gravity is a scientific law…  Proven  science..  Global warming is a theory.. whose models are quickly falling apart as they are not holding up to current data collection… Get it?  Gez.. you need to watch more of Mr. Nye the Science Guy..  you have a lot to learn.

History will show that the GOP have sank to the lowest common denominator, the anti-education, anti-science teabagger illiterates who want to establish a Jesus theocracy in America.

Al Gore the Pious needs to have his Thorozine level checked.

I think the issue is more like this: Is global warming a direct result of human activity, especially since the globe has warmed before, PRIOR to the industrial age, which now being assigned the cause? One may also ask why there has been no global warming since 1998, if humans are really to blame.

OK can we start by not completely trashing our economy on cooked up science because it further’s a political agenda?  I think that most people are willing to do what they can for the environment but to starve our economy while China and the rest of the world goes peddle to the metal makes little sense…  Have we lost all sense of reason?

Divorce the politics from the Science and things will go a lot better. Global Warming from its very inception has been coupled politics on both global and national levels… it has never been just about Science.

Cimate Change Debunked? Not So Fast

http://www.livescience.com/15293-climate-change-cloud-cover.html

You know who its really working out for? Real racists.

A guy like David Duke would have a hard time being distinguished nowadays when anyone is called a racist for opposing democrat party authority.

Likely??? I mean is that like 100% proof everyone of the climate change deniers is expecting from the “conspiring” scientists around the world who stand behind AGW? Because a guy says so??

The AGW.scientists must be some real geniuses …they actually managed to produce somehow the hottest 12-month period ever recorded  from June 2009 to May 2010.

Simply put, scientist have predicted the earth would warm due to mankind. The warming is established as scientific fact. Overall, the skeptics/deniers are arguing it isn´t caused by mankind since even they aren´t able to ignore the fact of global warming. A position which they long held, btw. 

Would you care to explain what interest Svante Arrhenius had when he laid the groundwork for the theory of AGW in 1896 based on the studies of Jean Baptiste Joseph Fourier from 1824? 

Svante Arrhenius thought the greenhouse effect and global warming was a good thing!!!

Yeah, that´s they call it general theory of relativity and Quantum gravity belongs to the field of theoretical physics.

algore is a heart attack waiting to happen.

I hate waiting.

What’s a ricist?

History will show Al Gore was a con artist and a fraud.

Maybe this will also help you to understand that global warming is not settled science….

“Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet’s recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist’s controversial theory.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA’s Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide “ice caps” near Mars’s south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.
 
Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg’s Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun. “The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars,” he said.”

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Austin, you’re trying to illustrate that the tea party is illiterate by accusing them of all sorts of stuff which they have nothing to do with?  They want a Jesus theocracy?  Are you fucking insane?

History will show that idiots who make ridiculous statements like you just did are uneducated, ill informed dim wits who make up bull crap because they have not a clue about anything!  Go stare at your navel, that’s all you are equipped to do – let us know if it has lint in it.  

Only an insane person would say that.

Bullcrap!

96% of Scientists DON’T believe in Global Warming

http://www.minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/2011/07/96-of-scientists-dont-believe-in-global-warming.html

The term “global warming” is one of the issues. It’s Al’s “manbearpig” (love South Park). It is hard to know what is natural and what isn’t in terms of the climate. We really don’t know what the ultimate effect of deforestation, air pollution, water pollution, extinction… will be on the planet. To my way of thinking, it can’t be good. My main point is, by making the issue political, we truly don’t deal with it. We just yell at each other and name-call. That’s not productive and I feel we are being manipulated by someone, corporations, government, to do this so the real problems aren’t addressed. 

There is a book out written by a long-time secret service agent, forget the name. My wife read it. He said Gore was rude, and always gobbled up every cookie in sight.

everyday here at mediaite it’s 96% mindless conservatives commenting….

Ah….  What the hell I can’t resist…  worth watching more than once…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkx8Xe7yiXY

And is insignificant to the environment, doofus. Read the article. Read the whole report, instead of cherry-picking what you want.

Typical lefty.

Helpless much?

AL GORE INVENTED JOHN KERRY…

Al Gore invented John Kerry when he endorsed Howard Dean.

Here’s some more, Einstein. It’s not settled science. Simple as that.

I’m sure you’ll keep lying to yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

By telling a blatant lie like “The GOP has always been the anti-science party”, you discredit your side of the argument. Anyone with half a mind knows how untrue and silly that is to say. Are we to assume that “climate science” as promoted by Al Gore is just as ridiculous a lie as your statement?
Your statement makes people wonder if all of Al Gore’s followers are like that. That isn’t true either , but you’re not helping Al Gore’s side.
By the way, thank you. I happen to believe that Gore is just a greedy opportunist who has taken a valid argument and expanded it into a gigantic myth to drain your money into his own pocket.

A weatherman,let me repeat a weatherman from TV, a rassmussen poll and newspaper article are your references while accusing others not to to bring arguments to the table. Very cute.

Global warming is a fact, not even disputed by the real scientists who claim it isn´t caused by mankind.  

Sweetie, you’re just mad because nothing is going right for you loony libs lately.

Well, that’s no more true than M-B-W’s lie, but it’s funny within this context. If you had said progressives, it would have been a little more accurate. They are kind of pro-American, but not the America 80% of American’s recognize.

Imagine this idiot as our President.

Of course, liberals also almost gave us John Edwards as VP and a whole mess of other losers.

So if I am talking about apples…  you want to bring oranges in to the discussion, gravity and quantum gravity are two different things.   Nice try at looking smart, but your remark has little to do with my original post.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ratio_of_publishing_climate_scientists_who_believe_humans_are_warming_the_planet_based_on_Aderegg.jpg

Lol has anybody said 100% of scientists agree on the topic? The ratio is ummm only 97 to 3.

Is this a genuine story? If so, this guy needs some serious psychiatric help. Man-Bear-Pig should take his ‘crazed sex-poodle’ shtick down the road, he should get down on his knees and thank God he is not in jail for securities fraud.

You mean like posting about Mars in reply to Acid Rain?

People who argue there´s no separation between church and state are arguing on behalf of theocracy.

Any Republican who proposes any tax hike ain’t getting my vote. And I have no problem with ending corporate welfare, tax loopholes that benefit corporations, and punishing corporations that create jobs in other countries, instead of America. 

Secondly, Obama’s healthcare reform bill does not make healthcare more accessible for people who can’t afford it. If you actually read the bill, you’d know that. I think the whole notion of an income tax is outdated, and we should taxing people based on consumption. Rich people always spend more money, since they always have more, so the middle-class would be better off. And luxury items could have a higher sales tax on them since personal income taxes would be subsided.

He’s a fire-breathing snake-oil salesman. A divorced disgrace who lives like a wasteful, rich elite while chastising others for much less.

If Gore’s life is a living Hell, he can go sit there with Maxine Waters.

Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.  It’s just that none of the Marxist left has yet devised a way to regulate (and tax) water vapor.  So they go after something they can regulate (and tax).  Case closed.  

Oh yeah,  Al’s dad was a racist. 

And the Nasa Data???  you fail to address that or how about

“Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet’s recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist’s controversial theory.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.
In 2005 data from NASA’s Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide “ice caps” near Mars’s south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row. ”

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Or maybe you might consider this….

The Earth is not alone in suffering global warming. According to observations made by NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope and several ground-based instruments, temperatures on Neptune’s largest moon have increased dramatically since the Voyager space probe swung by in 1989. So much so, in fact, that Triton’s surface of frozen nitrogen is turning into gas, making its thin atmosphere denser by the day.

“At least since 1989, Triton has been undergoing a period of global warming,” confirms astronomer James Elliot, professor of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “Percentage-wise, it’s a very large increase.”

Elliot and colleagues from the Lowell Observatory and Williams College report their findings in the June 25 issue of the journal Nature. Triton’s 5 percent increase on the absolute temperature scale from about -392 to -389 degrees Fahrenheit would be like the Earth experiencing a jump of some 22 degrees Fahrenheit in just nine years.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980526052143data_trunc_sys.shtml

And I notice that you lefty weirdos have zero coherent debate points, it always boils down to you losers calling people stupid little group think names like “flat earthers”, or other such drivel that that you read at some commie web site and thought it sounded cool. You people are the lowest of the low, the dumbest of the dumb, nothing but jealous little scum who want things that other people have without having to go through what it takes to earn it. Pathetic little bastards.

GORE – AMERICAN IDIOT

Of course, his idiocy is CELEBRATED by the light-thinkers of the world.

You must be kidding me. Didn´t you just say AGW is just a theory, and now your are using “one scientist’s controversial theory.”

There´s no warming on Mars. And it happened to be summer on Neptun like every 164 years.

…and people that don’t know what they are talking about shouldn’t misquote the constitution or strawman conservative positions.

Ok so lets say you dont believe MAN had much to do with climate change (I dont believe our little ANT like existence on this planet has done a damn thing)… But lets say you do take note of the fact that there have been climate changes on this planet for THOUSANDS of years that resulted in serious damage to life on this planet (I hate to say it, but LOOK UP “little ice age”)… WITH any of this in mind, dont you think ONE person interested, TRULY INTERESTED in helping the planet would be spearheading an effort to determine what we should do when the inevitable happens? We do have deserts where there were once lakes.. we do have mountains where there were once shores.. NONE of this has CRAP to do with US.. but 100% to do with the fact that EARTH changes over periods of time regardless of who is driving. SCREW Gore as he really seems to be a person bent on making as much “GREEN” as he can.. truth is, the earth is changing and it simply does, and the question is how will we make plans to move, change, alter where and how we live so that we will survive the inevitable.. and FOR THE FAST FOOD IDIOTS.. we can chill cuz none of this is going to effect us unless you plan on living to 150 years old.

Drooling cyborgs. Best of both worlds and they eventually short themselves out.

Gore’s use of racism is absolutely shameless. Of the many false claims of racism in the past couple of years, which have diluted the impact of the charge, Gore’s is one of the worst.
Clearly he has no conscience when it comes to bilking the public out of money. Now he has made a reprehensible false accusation of racism against a significant segment of the population to promote his money and power grab. I hope the public rises up and he experiences a profound backlash to this shameless sophistry.

Global warming is a hypothesis, it doesn’t even rise to the level of theory. Al Gore gave it a promotion.

I_Hate_Progs_With_Every_Fiber that was such a great statement filled with reasonable and intelligent arguments. Impressive, really.

How about the climate change i referenced occurring on Mars and Neptune’s Moon Triton? Is that our fault also?

How about this. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZULD57znlU&feature=player_embedded#!

Attempting to perpetuate racism through race baiting doesn’t sound like he’s trying to end it.

It is truly amazing that peolpe (as few as there are) listen to Al Gore aka PT Barnum.  He just made over $100 million on his new “business” while he scoots around on his private plane from one mansion to another.  He portrays himself as having zero personality but he is laughing hyserically at home in this mansions at the people he suckered.

And your debate point regarding man made global warming would be .. ?

If we had a rational and honest mainstream media, they’d put an end to his deceitful climate alarmist promotions. This racist thing would spell the end of it.

There was NEVER a sane liberal.

I was a click away from “liking” this post, then I realized LEMONLIMEY is caught up in a bi-polar Liberals v. Conservative world contrived at the grade school level. PLEASE grow out of it because you are getting close to being worthy of listening to.. seriously.. “Imagine this idiot as our President” -YAY.. great post..
The rest.. uhh.. TEACHER LEMONLIMEY is calling people names again.

I_HATE…. Like this last post, the first is the work of the blind listening to the idiots.. GROW OUT OF THE LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE BAIT SHIT.. PLEASE.. its going to KILL US ALL.

Svante Arrhenius.

Every false accusation of racism, especially in the media, blurs the line.

Why waste logic and reason on those more familiar with ridicule and assumption?

who’s arguing that there is no separation between church and state?

Let´s quote Michelle Bachmann: “[Public schools] are teaching children that there is separation of church and state, and I am here to tell you that is a myth. That’s not true,” Bachmann said at the group’s 2006 fundraiser in Minneapolis. “And they explain to children in the public school system what a myth that is. And that’s what I love about this ministry … We want kids to come to the truth and that’s why this ministry is so absolutely vital. We need them in every public school classroom across the state to tell young people, ‘You Can Run But You Cannot Hide.

The “Global Warming” church really does qualify as a religion. Many of the same people who just love to look down their noses those neanderthal Christians for believing in something that cannot be proven and has many skeptics, believe in something that hasn’t been proven and has many skeptics. Blind faith. And they’re quite fervent in their faith, too, much more so than Christians. Mock a Christian, and he’ll most likely smile at you and walk away, but trot out any one of the _many_ climate scientists that dispute much of the global warming research methods, and the flock goes nuts, will trash, discredit, and attempt to get blacklisted whoever publicly speaks out. Basically, they’re almost like muslims in how they react to people crapping on their religion.

believe you willl love it.
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look love— w w w – jordanforworld – c o mbelieve you will love it.love good go.

Anti-science party…my ass. Dems and far left only care about science when it become a tool for a green dictatorship.  AGW, climate change not whatever they call it next…is used to justify a takeover by legions of lawyers and environmentalists who would move us back to the stone age if they had their way.
Al Gore, with his 40,000 square foot mansion, globe trotting movie star friends and private jet fuel guzzling   
behavior is the perfect spokesman for the movement. Do as I say, not as I do. If you don’t believe you are all racists. 

Yeah, clearly records of temperatures since 1850 are just the same thing as a religious scripture from thousands of years ago changed by numerous writers and translations.

Did you know the hottest 12-month period ever recorded  was from June 2009 to May 2010?

Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King were Republicans. Read that again ‘Crupt, yep that’s right-Martin Luther King was a Republican. Tea Partiers are Republicans.

‘The Left continues to enslave their dependents thru intimidation and lies. A Republican is a free thinker who holds the rights of the people to be the highest form of existence. DemoKKKrats hold that left-wing politicians are of the most importance. Take that ‘Turd and put in a sandwich. Enjoy!

Heckie, I have your new canvASS and leather jacket. It has very nice, long sleeves to wrap around your backside and keep you all comfy. I talked to the Insane Asylum’s Administrator about getting more rubber for the walls and floor in your cage, errr, I mean room and he said yes. So when you hear 3 knocks at your door let them in. You will be well taken care of.  

Al, your head looks like it is going to explode. Chill out, dude.

Nice, but inherently irrelevant and lost in the semantic battle started by Al Goof. Screw the concept of GLOBAL WARMING.. but dont deny the FACT that the earth has dramatic climate changes that occur over long long LONG periods of time and that someone who might call you great great grand dad could be living in the plains of Kansas along side large lakes that arent there today. What will we do TODAY to figure out how to get ready for that tomorrow because WE will have no way of stopping it.. Gore is a fool, but the realities of the globe are there to be witnessed day in and out. TO WIT…southern Jersey has been suffering seasonal flooding for the past decade that never happened before. MAN doesnt have a DAMN THING to do with it..NOT A THING.. it is inevitable.. but will we drive “cleaner cars” to help figure out what to do next or REALLY WORK TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT?!?!..and again, I could really give a shit.. I will die in about 50 years if I’m lucky so GOOD LUCK YALL –

I hope it is in Mexico so Hector will can it when he is deported.

Perhaps if you had said; ‘Climate scientists overwhelmingly concur that current global climate change has, in part, been measurably effected by the result of man’s activities’, you might have been more believable. If you can’t win an argument honestly, it’s time to review your premises.
The argument is that cap and trade or sinking untold billions into fictional fixes by force of the government is a fraudulent enterprise promoted by alarmists. Free enterprise can be trusted far more than government to come up with solutions without robbing the population by force.

Al Gore the Pious —> Al Gore the Prius

That 160 year period comprises 0.0000000375 of the amount of time that the earth has been around. Hey, did cavemen cause global warming with their campfires and farts and stuff that ended the last ice age. Now _that_ was some serious global warming, eh? Or how ’bout dinosaurs that migrated to land which at that time was very near the north pole in the summertime to eat? Global warming like a mo-fo back then. Goddam dinosaurs anyway, didn’t they know what they were doing?? Look what it bought them!

Wow, aren’t liberals great? They have done so much for the black man in this country, poor women, who could otherwise not abort, La Raza, inner city ghettos, failing schools, poor indigents who could not otherwise buy homes, and now they are off to save the planet! What can’t they do????

Goodness, they give us clean air, clean water, and even GAVE us the weekend. Perhaps Algore is just a bit angry that we do not bow to him and call him king?

That can’t possibly be true since I’ve scientifically identified posts here to be mindless progressivism to the tune of 74.332%.

Your data is made up.  Just like the anthropomorphic global warming narrative.

Your idiotic reply is proof of a teatard moron.

HA!!! His head is a WARM GLOBE???

I love how Al Gore drives the moron-right crazy. 

Martin Luther King was a Republican, Obama, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are Christians. You must be very upset eh ‘Crupt?

My point is that Global Warming at this point is a theory and that it is not settled science, but is being disputed by some very prominent scientists in their fields.  Liz there are 31,000 scientists in the US alone that have actually made the effort to sign and submit their petition forms in which they dispute the science of Global Warming…  I am not going to pretend that I am a scientist nor that I am an expert on the issues..  I am saying that we should wait and see how these different scientists resolve their different findings.  I could sit here all night and show you different respected scientists many of whom have done important work promoting the theory of Global Warming who later have reversed their position..  It remains unsettled science no matter what you folks want us to believe.

More than 31,000 scientists across the U.S. – including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties – have signed a petition rejecting “global warming,” the assumption that the human production of greenhouse gases is damaging Earth’s climate.”There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate,” the petition states. “Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”Read more: 31,000 scientists reject ‘global warming’ agenda http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=64734#ixzz1WNYMuZ96

Obamaddict’d Obama-garglers slurp up every moist, left-wing crack, KKKorupt’d lie out of this pig’s mouth and can’t wait to taste more, right punk?

LOL yeah… something like that…  good call out.

Al Gore’s main point here?

‘Let’s win the argument with mass Appeals to Ridicule!’

If at any time you admit in calm tones in a sit down interview that you can’t win the debate without resorting to logical fallacies and using collective social pressure of people uneducated in the field, your know your facts are weak.

You also know you’re on your last legs.

Maybe he should just start paying scientists off who raise doubt over anthropomorphic climate change with carbon credits?

The earth is billions of years old, Einstein. Even the records going back 150 years are incomplete, and not trustworthy.

You have no point.

Separation of Church and State is not in the Constitution. It’s an interpretation, by some, but not others, of what the Constitution means.

The amount of science that this man actually has studied would fit on the head of a pin.  He’s a politician, a salesman, a businessman, a blowhard and a jackass.  What he is not, is a scientist. 

I’m only interested in the science, and those who have grant money on the line…or a man like Gore who invested in the only carbon credit stockmarket while lobbying for cap and trade, and although screaming that the end is near, travels the world in chartered jets or a fleet of SUVs or while at home, lives in enough square footage that is bigger than your average African village.  His hypocrisy is deafening and belies the truth.

Algore, since offerring up the idea that all of the little people should travel by bicycle (in his first book, check it out) while he drives in a chauffered vehicle, like some old Soviet administrator on the way to his dacha, while we’re good enough to walk.  He has made MILLIONS off of this idea.

Cap and trade will continue to go down in flames. Damn all of us for screwing up his Gate-sian fantasies.
Oh the planet she is changing, how much of it is man made and how much of it is us still coming out of the last ice age?  What sort of impact could we have on it barring mass suicide on a planetary level? If any? Or is it merely part of a larger cycle?  And having access to the tiniest of timelines, can’t see the bigger picture?

If someone tells you that the science is done, they’re no scientist.  The foremost tenant in science beyond the method and that it’s either empirical or can be duplicated is that it’s never done.  Never ever, done. There is always more to know, more to learn, more to look at, more to discover.  The moment some nimnod says that, I immediately tune out and know that they’re only selling something…and probably dumber than the proverbial bag of rocks.

/science major, tired of the politicization of it all

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Afraid to read it, huh? Typical.

And did you notice the “Did you know the hottest 12-month period ever recorded  was from June 2009 to May 2010″, which is about as significant a time span as his stupid 160 years of weather records, so by his own logic, we must now be in an era of global cooling, since it’s not as hot as it was two years ago.

These religious nuts just have zero concept of the age of the Earth. They’re just scientifically challenged, and follow whatever they’re told to follow.

Ok…  so yes there is global warming and there is global cooling as well as there always has been, some 40 years ago the scare was the new coming of an Ice age…  there is no doubt that there have been fluctuations in the earth’s tempetature…  the question is is it caused by CO2 which comprises something like less than 400 parts per million 0.04 percent of the earth’s atmosphere..   and of that 400 parts per million mans contributions are small as compared to the natural occurring CO2 in our atmosphere… 

I am sorry, I just don’t buy into it deeply enough into the unsettled science to transform our entire economy at the cost of becoming a 3rd world nation…  if you think that the economy is bad now…  just jack up energy prices about 100, 200 to 300 percent or more to pay for the green technologies that are extremely inefficient and are in need of governmental subsidies to survive… 

Keep working on the science but let us use our resources until you develop the technologies for the so called green economy.  Instead our government seems to be content to not allow us to develop our own fossil resources but is willing to pay other countries to develop the same in our own back yard…  Brazil and Mexico recently recieved large loan gurantees from the Obama administration to explore for and develop platforms for the extraction and storage of Oil in the Gulf of Mexico…   

Don’t try to force the move prematurely as the economy you see in this country today will look great compared to the one that the green economy will bring if it is forced on us before the technologies are refined…  And in all instances Carbon taxes are a bad idea as they are not at all as advertised, they only hinder the economy and do nothing to curb carbon usage.  They do however redistribute global wealth, as well as create multi billion dollare bank accounts for the chosen few.

Al forgot to mention that his father was a racist.

All you pro Gore morons need to see how much he has profited from global warming.

And as you see in every blog… A lib will call you a racist in his first post, and then make a horrifically racial remark in his second post.

You have no honest rebuttal, so you resort to nothing – absolutely nothing.

You guys have given the tea party a lot of power, you realize that don’t you?  Suddenly they are responsible for every part of the government, the economy, “denial of climate change”, racism, etc.

The more responsibility you lay on the ‘tea party’, you are admitting that the party in charge are not in control.  They have relinquished they duty.  

AGW – New problem with an amazing familiar “solutions”.  

It’s settled science!  The consensus of federally funded scientists are inclined to form conclusions that perpetuate their funding!  

Hey dumb ass, over thirty billion dollars was funneled into New Orleans to build the levies. The democrats stole all the money. and ended up with the ignorant 9th ward.

This country has never seen a bigger blow hard. And his son is a drunk, drunk driver and druggie.

I don’t know, do you know anyone being driven crazy by a fat alcoholic having a public meltdown?

Oh, and it’s a hoot how guys like Dick Cheney drive you nuts with his Halliburton antics, yet you’re perfectly fine with Gore raking it in by pushing fear that drives business his way. Goddam you people are stupid.

I don’t know, do you know anyone being driven crazy by a fat alcoholic having a public meltdown?

Oh, and it’s a hoot how guys like Dick Cheney drive you nuts with his Halliburton antics, yet you’re perfectly fine with Gore raking it in by pushing fear that drives business his way. Goddam you people are stupid.

LIke that is a secret?  LOL

I wouldn’t file that one under ‘shocking revelations’…:D

 The Democrats in the 19th century – back when the Democrats were the conservative party.
The Republicans made a point to become the party of racists when Nixon used the Southern Strategy to reach out to southern racist and angry Dixiecrats and welcomed them in. Race-baiting has been a proud GOP tradition ever since.

 The Democrats in the 19th century – back when the Democrats were the conservative party.
The Republicans made a point to become the party of racists when Nixon used the Southern Strategy to reach out to southern racist and angry Dixiecrats and welcomed them in. Race-baiting has been a proud GOP tradition ever since.

You realize of course that “you can run but you cannot hide” is/was a group.  Bachmann was giving a speech at a fundraiser they were holding.

She was stating a fact that separation of church and state is not part of the constitution.  She was right – but that does not mean that she or anyone else is advocating a theocracy.  She was just stating a fact.

Go look it up for yourself - 

 Wallace left the party because he hated Democrats passing the Civil Rights Actand ran against it in 1968. You might have missed that one. The GOP spent the next 43 years trying to welcome his followers in.

As for Byrd – what he did was bad, at least he apologized and made efforts to make amends. Even bec ame a voice for tolerance in his later years – calling for the repeal of DADT.

Something that Republican racists like Strom “I’ll refuse to acknowledge my black love child” Thurmond and Jesse “defend the white man” Helms never did. They remained proudly unapologetic and took their bigotry to the grave with them. And the GOP loved them for it.

Al Gore, like most Democrats, just needs to go away. He’s lost out on his “claim to fame” with all his bogus climate change crap, so now he starts calling us “non-believers” racists…

Says the party that has a secessionist currently leading for their nomination (and nominated one for VP in 2008)

Not only that, a Nashville journalist (probably the same one lol) did an expose on this guy’s electricity bills and the numbers were shocking. I eyeballed the numbers and he has a house about double the size of mine and in roughly the same climate.  Even so, the man’s electicity consumption was shocking to me. 
I mean, even if you factor in the probability of much higher security systems, maybe a pool…he’s still consuming enough watts to power a small city.  I heat and cool to comfort over here.  I’m not so strict that it would skew the numbers dramatically, but I don’t leave every light burning, either.  I’m probably average of buildings of like size.
Yet his numbers were mind blowing to me.  That man AINT even green at home.  Does a man who lived only with his wife need a freaking compound anyway?  And with his bucks, you’d think that he’d have geothermal, solar power, etc.

Now Ed, I can respect.  If he timed my shower, I would take one twice as long as necessary to get him to leave me alone.  LOL  But he lives a green lifestyle and I have no issue with him at all.  He at least, practices what he preaches.

Except Al never claimed to “invent” the Internet. Just because you guys repeat the same tired smear over and over doesn’t make it any more true.

by the way, gore made no such comparison

he made an analogy

kind of a big difference….

 Last I checked, Bush and conservatism already did that from 2001-2008.

You mean the liberal programs that built a middle class and ushered in decades of American prosperity through the 40s, 50s and 60s?

Funny how the economy didn’t systemically fall apart until the conservative movement came along and screwed up the country.

 OMG – you found stuff from 150 years ago from when the Democrats were the conservative party and Republicans were the liberals!

Don’t worry, over the past 50 years, Nixon, Atwater, Rove, Thurmond, Helms and Limbaugh did their best to make race-bating S.O.P for Republicans and win the mantle racism for your party.

There’s a reason African-Americans overwhelmingly refuse to vote for the GOP these days.

so 98% of climate scientists are also spouting bogus claims?

btw he never called you ‘racists’

i thought making a profit was a good thing?

98% of scientists agree with al gore

??? The Gores were slave owners?? Who knows? They made $$$ with tobacco. Who Cares? Thomas Jefferson owned slaves and yet he wrote the Declaration of Independence, expanded the United States with the Louisiana Purchase, co-founded the Democratic-Republican party (which developed into the Democratic party), was the first Secretary of State, founded the University of Virginia, Vice President under John Adams. 

If you don’t believe in Global Warming here’s what to do: When the ocean rises because of melting polar ice, tornados, hurricanes, blizzards and droughts become worse than ever before – just click your heels together 3 times and say “There is no such thing as Global Warming” – see how that works for ya.

I never realized the extent of the hatred rightwingers have for Al Gore.Of course,there’s no such thing as global warming. Certainly our burning most of the earth’s fossil fuels in the past hundred and fifty years would have nothing to do with climate change, nor would the expertise of virtually ever major scientist in this field ever persuade you reactionaries otherwise. And, of course, Al would have invaded the Middle East and destroyed an entire country and took away every vestige of protection from the Wall St predators. I’m thinking of helping to form a 12 Step program for recovering rightwingers.Yes, there is a ‘higher power’ in all of us and it would be great if more people could learn how to tap into it. This country has to go through a healing process that’s being exacerbated by rightwing irrationality and denial.

But he did throw it out there, hoping that leftist pussies would run with it.

Thank you, no one had mentioned that little factoid and it’s rarely discussed.

Sorry, I’m busy clubbing baby seals at the moment.

Seems as if Mr. Al Gore should know a thing or two about racists, afterall. But he is a liberal, so all the liberal lemmings will defend him no matter what.

The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act
of 1964 includes Senators:

Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Act was substantial enough to
literally split the party in two. A whopping 40% of the House Democrats
VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, while 80% of Republicans SUPPORTED
it. Republican support in the Senate was even higher. Similar trends occurred
with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which was supported by 82% of House
Republicans and 94% of Senate Republicans. The same Democrat standard bearers
took their normal racists stances, this time with Senator Fulbright leading
the opposition effort.

Definition of SAVANT
1: a person of learning; especially : one with detailed knowledge in some specialized field (as of science or literature) Synonyms: pundit, sage, scholarPerhaps you should try using a dictionary. Savant = genius. Last I knew genius was a good thing.

If you don’t believe in Global Warming here’s what to do: When the ocean rises because of melting polar ice, tornados, hurricanes, blizzards and droughts become worse than ever before – just click your heels together 3 times and say “There is no such thing as Global Warming” – see how that works for ya.

And by the way – people that deny Global Warming are equally as ignorant as racists.

Awhile back, the BBC ran a documentary entitled “The Global Warming Swindle”. I have no doubt that some climate scientists believe that man made global warming is a fact. It may be. I also have no doubt that there are climate “scientists” out there that will produce whatever data they think will bring them the most spending money. A degree in some field of science does not remove the humanity from a person.

Oh, and your 98% figure is off. Watch the documentary.

Like you just proved…..Gore is driving you morons crazy. LOL!!

I don’t think the majority of “global warming deniers” are saying there is no global warming at all. Neither do I think they “deny” that mankind has influenced that warming to some degree. That, to me, is the big lie in this argument. Gore and the rest of the alarmists have fabricated their army of “global warming deniers” in order to further their agendas. Good people who are genuinely concerned about the environment have been duped by the shameless Al Gore into believing his “deniers” line.
The argument is that cap and trade or sinking untold billions into
fictional fixes by force of the government is a fraudulent enterprise
promoted by alarmists. Free enterprise can be trusted far more than
government to come up with solutions without robbing the population by
force.
If anything, the Al Gore deniers and common sense are really his biggest threat, not global warming deniers.

That is a fantastic summation of all the dumbass Ivy League educated liberals I know who work 80 hours a week, bring home 6 and 7 figure salaries, and are progressives who support progressive policy even if it means their 36 percent top marginal rate could go to ..gasp…39.4%.  It is indeed because they are dumb, hate hard work, and are jealous of you, your keen intellect, ability to formulate agruments that shut down all doctoral level climate scientists, and most of all, they envy your cool, detached ability to see the world around you a reasonable, objective fashion, in no way impacted by anger  

How many stayed with the democrats after this vote sir? Do not rewrite history.

The original House version:Southern Democrats: 7–87   (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10   (0%–100%)Northern Democrats: 145-9   (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24   (85%–15%)The Senate version:Southern Democrats: 1–20   (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1   (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1   (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5   (84%–16%)As you can see even under your foolish theory a larger percentage of southern dems voted than southern republicans. As a matter of fact not one southern republican voted for the bill in the house or senate. A larger percentage of northern democrats voted for the bill. Then as you have failed to mention most of the democrats in the south turned republican.The bill divided and engendered a long-term change in the demographics of both parties. President Johnson realized that supporting this bill would risk losing the South’s overwhelming support of the Democratic Party. Both Attorney General Robert Kennedy and Vice President Johnson had pushed for the introduction of the civil rights legislation. Johnson told Kennedy aide Ted Sorensen that “I know the risks are great and we might lose the South, but those sorts of states may be lost anyway.”[25] Senator Richard Russell, Jr. warned President Johnson that his strong support for the civil rights bill “will not only cost you the South, it will cost you the election.”[26] Johnson, however, went on to win the 1964 election by one of the biggest landslides in American history. The South, which had started to vote increasingly Republican beginning in the 1930s, continued that trend, becoming the stronghold of the Republican party by the 1990s.[2

You have seriously gotta be shitten me. A leftist pussy that won’t get over Gore losing to Bush. Do the world a favor, don’t breed, and go swallow the barrel of a .45.

Excuse me but you are wrong about Gore’s house. It is not, I repeat – NOT on the beach/sea shore – it is at the top of a hill 150 feet above the shore with a beautiful view of the beach. Been there, seen it.

“His father” – what? Didn’t you ever disagree with your father?
“Tobacco?” at the time no-one knew that tobacco was as bad as it was later discovered.

“Slaves?” HE did not own them – his ancestors did.

Don’t believe in Global Warming? Here’s what to do: When the ocean rises because of melting polar ice, tornados, hurricanes, blizzards and droughts become worse than ever before – just click your heels together 3 times and say “There is no such thing as Global Warming” – see how that works for ya.

Umm, has anyone ever noticed that when some pussy tries to insult you, and ends it with “LOL!!”, it’s not exactly authentic?

Steers and queers, man.

I don’t believe I have ever said that there was no warming or that humans haven’t influenced it in some way. You operate under false assumptions. Please read my other posts to this thread. You have apparently bought into Gore’s program.

Well at least you speak the truth. If the Republicants had their way we would all be poor. Oh, wait, we are!

Gore just jumped the shark…turn the page.

The comments here are just further examples of how conservatives are so blinded by their partisan hatred of Al Gore that they dismiss the opinion of 98% of scientists.
 

You’re full of crap…. So it was Nixon who relieved the Democratic party of it’s shameful history…  Keep dreaming…  Nixon was narcissistic A-hole and you ems want to use him to change your history…  Good luck with that.  People don’t so easily change… small minded dems as the racist side of your party has always been could never see their way to vote for a republican. They’re yours.. always have been, and always will be.

I dont blame him for making a profit, but it doesn’t make him right about global warming. If I could make a living off of it I would. Right or wrong it’s all about money.

I just don’t get the analogy. How old were you in the 60′s? I was just a little kid. That statement has nothing to do with the current situation. All I can deal with is the now.

Someone mentioned divorcing politics from the science – EXACTLY! As long as people with a vested interest fund these studies, there is no good science. This is what I’m trying to say. It is totally politicized now and Al Gore bears a lot of the blame. He’s an idiot. 

“Divorce the politics from the Science and things will go a lot better.” Yes yes yes!  And we can stop calling each other names and getting no where.
China is sucking down fossil fuels faster than they can produce/buy them. Most of their attempts at becoming “green” are window dressing. We can’t compete and it’s not China’s fault. We have trashed our own economy through greed. If we are willing to sell our souls to compete with China, that is not a US I want to be a part of.

The common, everyday person would do what they can for the environment as long as they can still get cheap food, cheap fuel, cheap stuff. Only the wealthy can afford to be “green”. I think we are in for some tough times before our economy stabilizes, I didn’t say improves. But, we did to ourselves.

Gore is an idiot. He has caused a lot of the division here and made a tidy sum of money in the process. We’ve been had folks. But, it doesn’t mean we can just ignore what we are doing to the environment.

BTW his seaside mansion is about 10 miles from where I live. Right on the coast where the melting glaciers are supossed to cause flooding and engulf the land…guess he’s not too worried about it.
I don’t blame him, if I had all that global warming money I would live there to.
And yes it’s not cheap to live 10 miles away. Give me some global warming money.

BTW his seaside mansion is about 10 miles from where I live. Right on the coast where the melting glaciers are supossed to cause flooding and engulf the land…guess he’s not too worried about it.
I don’t blame him, if I had all that global warming money I would live there to.
And yes it’s not cheap to live 10 miles away. Give me some global warming money.

Al Gore is the crazy one.

We need to cut Al some slack:

New Report Claims Global Warming Linked To Rise In Mental Illness…  http://weaselzippers.us/2011/08/28/no-joke-new-report-claims-global-warming-linked-to-rise-in-mental-illness/

[It all makes sense now...]

One thing that has always baffled me in this debate and im a liberal is this. Even if there is man made warming and im willing to accept that there is a problem. We can sit back and pontificate about this or acknowledge that its true. But then what? One thing that annoys me about my side is they have no concept on how this world is developing and that there is a huge hunger for fossil fuels in the developing world. China and India are not going to stop developing and requiring massive amounts of fossil fuels to do so. So even if we cut back some and western europe cuts back some its not going to cause other countries to do so. Now if in the future there is a fuel source that is non polluting comes up that can help them expand their economies then thats great. But for the near future there is none. And the conservatives argument on this topic although ignorant at times and dismissive is not really wrong. They may deny global warming but in reality I think they are just being more realistic than our side is on this. Every single second on this earth countries demand for fossil fuels continue to grow. After we developed our infrastructure or western europe develops their infrastructure its easy for us to sit back and stick our noses up at third world countries who want to have an infrastructure like ours or Europes. China, India,Vietnam,Indoneshia, eastern europe,russia, south america and so on do not care that we want to drive electric cars or use solar panels at this point in their development. They want to grow their economies and feed their people the same way we do. In the long term they may switch but its going to be a long slow and dirty process.

This man made global warming stuff is just used to try and scare people into giving up liberty.

It’s also probably an attempt at creating another fictitious economy.

The housing market is bust, so they need a new one.

I’d done a video a year ago proving that the same person (Michael Stern)

Bought both the Chicago Climate Exchange and the United States Climate Exchange domains.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUOlDo6sfSc

The funny part is, they didn’t renew it because it’s available now!

Are we trying to say that Mr. Algore Sr. Was no racist? That would be laughable, as is your party – laughable. Blacks “Gored”
By a Lie: Al Gore Sr., the GOP and the Civil Rights Act of 1964

http://www.nationalcenter.org/P21NVDavisGore599.html.
Mr. Robert KKK (sheets) Byrd gave the longest filibuster in American history AGAINST the civil rights act of ’64.

Said Mr. Sheets: I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side … Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory
trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land
of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest
specimen from the wilds. — Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944.

And your snake salesman, Algore Jr. made his home in the party of racists. As I said, he should know a thing or two about racism, race baiting and snake oil for fools. You must drink it by the gallon. But of course you do, he’s a liberal. Talk about the party of blind faith!
”

the levies have been rebuilt, and they are higher.

Then we agree.

 Are you trying to get me to admit that some democrats who stayed democrats were racist? Well if thats what you wish I will grant you that. But don’t sit here and tell me the the democrats as a whole are. Even more so now. Most of the dixiecrats  became republicans within 10 years of the civil rights act being signed. As you can see with your boy Strum Thrurmond up on your list. The south went republican after this and has remained so ever since. The facts are this. The democrats had control of all three branches of government in 1964 and passed the civil rights act. Thats a fact. And they had massive control. After this bill the democrats in the south turned republican the main reason being they were pissed off that the civil rights bill had been passed. NONE of the southern republicans voted for the civil rights bill not one. The south opposed this bill across all political parties. To try and simplify things as you have is amateur and irresponsible. Truman a democrat integrated the military. Eisenhower a republican was a force for civil rights. But it took the democrats to get it done,even if the democrats and the republicans in the south opposed it. More democrats voted for the bill period. Yu cannot argue these facts but jump on the revisionist train which is not only ignorant but foolish.

I hope his agendas die, not the man himself.

  In his remarks
upon signing the Civil Rights Act, President Lyndon Johnson praised Republicans
for their “overwhelming majority.” He did not offer similar praise to
his own Democratic Party. Moreover, Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, an
Illinois Republican, collaborated with the White House and the Senate leadership
of both parties to draft acceptable compromise amendments to end the southern
Democrats’ filibuster of the Act. It was Dirksen who often took to the Senate
floor to declare, “This is an idea whose time has come. It will not be
denied.” Dirksen’s greatest triumph earned him the Leadership Conference of
Civil Rights Award, presented by then-NAACP Chairman Roy Wilkins, for his
remarkable civil rights leadership.

    Inform yourself,
so you can learn for yourself about this important historical event. All
official records about the Civil Rights Act can be found in the June 1964 issues
of Congressional Quarterly.

    Al Gore, Sr. did
not stop at simply voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In addition,
Congressional Quarterly reported that Gore attempted to send the Act to the
Senate Judiciary Committee with an amendment to say “in defiance of a court
desegregation order, federal funds could not be held from any school
districts.” Gore sought to take the teeth out of the Act in the event it
passed.

    Ostensibly,
Senator Gore was “elated” at the idea of young Al, Jr. going to school
with black children. In reality, however, the future vice president attended an
elite private school.

    In the end, the
Gore Amendment was defeated by a vote of 74-25. Senator J. William Fulbright of
Arkansas, one of President Bill Clinton’s political mentors, was among the 23
southern Democratic senators and only one Republican voting with Gore for this
racist amendment.

You’re trying to say that changing parties makes you suddenly not racist??? LOL. Of course you are. Anything to support liberal garbage.

J. Lister Hill in office until 1969 succeeded by Democrat James Allen (served until 1978)
John J Sparkman in office until 1979 succeeded by Democrat Howard Heflin (served until 1992)
J. William Fulbright in office until 1974 succeeded by Democrat Dale Bumpers (served until 1999)
John Little McClellen died in office (1977) succeeded by Democrat Kaneaster Hodges, Jr. (served until 1979)
Spessard Holland in office until 1971 succeeded by Democrat Lawton Chiles (served until 1989)
George Smathers in office until 1969 succeeded by Republican Edward Gurney (served until 1974)
Richard Brevard Russell, Jr. died in office (1971) succeeded by Democrat Sam Nunn (served until 1997) following interim appointment of Democrat David H. Grambrell
Herman Talmadge in office until 1981 succeeded by Republican Mack F. Mattingly
Allen J. Ellender died in office (1972) succeeded by Democrat Bennett Johnson, Jr. (served until 1997) following interim appointment of Democrat Elaine S. Edwards (the Gov’s wife)
Russell B. Long in office until 1987 succeeded by Democrat John Breaux (served until 2005)
James O. Eastland in office until 1978 succeeded by Republican Thad Cochran (present)
John C. Stennis in office until 1989 succeeded by Republican Trent Lott
Sam Ervin in office until 1974 succeeded by Democrat Robert Burren Morgan (served until 1981)
B. Evertt Jordan in office until 1973 succeeded by Republican Jesse Helms (Democrat until 1970s)
Olin D. Johnston died in office (1965) succeeded by Democrat Ernst Hollings (served until 2005) (interim Democrat Donald S. Russell)
Strom Thurmond changed to Republican (1964) died in offic (2003)
Albert Gore, Sr. in office until 1971 succeeded by Republican Bill Brock (long time Democratic family converting to R’s in 50s)
Herbert S. Walters interim appointee in office until (1964) succeeded by Democrat Ross Bass (who voted for CRA in congress) in special election serving until primary defeat (1967)
Harry F. Byrd retired in failing health from office (1965) (died 1966) succeeded by Democrat Harry F. Byrd, Jr. (served until 1983) (became Independent 1970 caucusing w/ Dems after refusing to sign loyalty oath)
Absalom Willis Robertson in office until 1966 succeeded by Democrat William B Spong, Jr. (served until 1973)
Robert Byrd died in office 2010 succeeded by Democrat Joe Manchin (interim Democrat Carte Goodwin)

The fabled 1960s changeover of the south to Republicans over the issue of civil rights never happened.  The South started to turn to Republicans in the 1980s over the issue of religion and abortion.

Doing the research Democrats absolutely refuse to do themselves.

Nicely put Seek. The more absurd their commentary (like Gore) the more credible their opposition looks too.
Lizton’s; “the anti-education, anti-science teabagger illiterates who want to establish a Jesus theocracy in America.” is so ridiculous that whatever the other side has said will sound reasonable by comparison.

That aint all of them my friend do some more research.

In the 1968 election, the Republican candidate, Richard Nixon, saw this trend and capitalized on it with his “Southern strategy.” The new method of campaigning was designed to appeal to white Southerners who were more conservative than the national Democratic Party. As a result of the strategy, the Democratic candidate, Hubert Humphrey, was almost shut out in the South; he only carried Texas. The rest of the region was divided between Nixon and the American Independent Party candidate George C. Wallace, the governor of Alabama, who had gained fame for opposing integration. Nationwide, Nixon won a decisive Electoral College victory, although he received only a plurality of the popular vote.

Put the gun in your own mouth retard and save your family from years of embarrassment and psychiatric fees.

How about you get off your lazy *ss and research it yourself?

That’s the entire Southern Democratic Senatoral caucus.  The left’s lying narrative is that southern racist voters flipped to the (R)epublicans following the Civil Rights Act of 1964.  That didn’t happen.  As you can see above, with very few exceptions, seats continued to be held by Democrats well into the seventies, most into the eighties.  There’s no point in researching the northern democrats since that’s not part of the narrative.

Your version of history is a lie.

Al Gore SR was a huge racist and fought tooth and nail against the Civil Rights Bill and even fought it in the courts.

I’m trying to say that your party, it’s adherents, and you, all have your tired old playbook that is sick. How often do we hear your race-baiters blame all your failed policies on the ones who point out your lies and failures? The fall-back card to discredit anyone in opposition to your scams is so often…racist! From your guilt-ridden clueless, J. Garafalo-types, to Maxine Waters, to the fraud and liberal ICON(!?) AL Sharpton!? Wow, he would have made a great president, huh? To the shakedown artist himself Jessie Jackson, to Jackson Lee, to Clyburn, to Rev. Wright, and B-HO himself. Not to mention the coward Eric Holder. Wow, what a party.

And because your race baiting is so worn and tired, we now have the class envy/warfare card making great headway into your sick routine. Your party invents crisis and disharmony, lies and fraud just to perpetuate it’s money scheming agenda against the actual productive class in this society. Leeches and lemmings is all you produce. Pay your own way in life, and fund your own liberal garbage with taxes from your liberal clowns that buy your garbage.

And when will your little darling Algore actually debate his fraud? Hey, have you ever seen the other side of Algores hockey stick??? http://www.phillytalk.com/global-warming/235-debunking-an-inconvenient-truth
http://www.noteviljustwrong.com/General/the-hockey-stick-debunked-again.html

Good stuff Florida. However, it’s futile for some of them in the face of their willful ignorance. None so blind as those who will not see.

I’m not sure how much private attention is being given. Research requires money, where does it come from? Government grants, corporate grants…? Large corporations are bottom line, shareholder driven. They will do the minimum that they can get away with. (my creds are 30+ years with the third largest corp in the country.) I see it all the time. Every project requires a payout. The only thing that keeps corps honest is publicity, shining the light on them. 

Just read some of the comments. Basically, global warming is a myth and now my mind is slamming shut to any other possibilities. I am curious as to what research is ongoing and who is funding it? 

I’m not sure how much private attention is being given. Research requires money, where does it come from? Government grants, corporate grants…? Large corporations are bottom line, shareholder driven. They will do the minimum that they can get away with. (my creds are 30+ years with the third largest corp in the country.) I see it all the time. Every project requires a payout. The only thing that keeps corps honest is publicity, shining the light on them. 

Just read some of the comments. Basically, global warming is a myth and now my mind is slamming shut to any other possibilities. I am curious as to what research is ongoing and who is funding it? 

A great resource for debunking the fraud, Al Gore:

http://www.bobbyshred.com/fools/falsetemps.html

A great resource for debunking the fraud, Al Gore:

http://www.bobbyshred.com/fools/falsetemps.html

Well, not exactly, I’m a Demo and I have a deep dislike for Big Al. He is doing more damage than good and he needs to be quiet now.

Well, not exactly, I’m a Demo and I have a deep dislike for Big Al. He is doing more damage than good and he needs to be quiet now.

My version of history is not a lie lol. The south turned republican. The civil rights bill was passed under the democrats who had a majority in the house,senate, and held the oval office! No southern republicans voted for the bill period! A higher percentage of both the southern democrats and northern democrats voted off the bill! These are facts they are not lies. That did happen NIXON won the south with Wallace on his tail in 1968. A republican hadn’t won the south in ages up until Nixon. It didn’t take long my friend and with the exception of Jimmy Carter in 1976 the south has been in the republicans back pocket ever since.

Im not race baiting if anyone is you are. Im not a big fan of Al gore, but I don’t like to listen to revisionist republicans trying to explain the were the reason for the civil rights bill being passed. They weren’t. And they weren’t because they were not in power at the time! You sit there and pontificate about how the democrats in the south were racist but you cannot in your partisan blindness figure out that the democrats had control of all the government and the bill was passed. Period. There is no argument after this.

This is exactly what I’m talking about. Can we let the whole “global warming” thing go? Do you think there is any possibility that cutting down all the rainforest, driving species to extinction, polluting our air and water might, just might, be bad for the planet and the long-term survival of our species?

Just askin’

Ill agree with that:)

And liberal democrats don’t care if they have to lie, cheat, steal, or worse to make that “profit”. As long as it’s a liberal cause, you and yours seem to defend it no matter how much you have to twist. It is really something to behold.

Who wants to cut down all the rain forest, drive species to extinction, dirty water and dirty air? Nobody I have ever met wants any of that. That is what you accuse any one of when we don’t buy into “your way” of preventing it??? And now we’re racist to boot!? I’ve heard that all my life from environmental liberal clowns. Just askin’ WHO THE HELL WANTS THOSE THINGS???

Don’t buy products from those that don’t treat the environment the way you like. Problem solved.

Hey genius, I’m willing to talk about THESE people. J. Garafalo-types, to Maxine Waters, to the fraud and liberal ICON(!?)
AL Sharpton!? Wow, he ran for president of YOUR PARTY!? To the
shakedown artist himself Jessie Jackson, to Jackson Lee, to Clyburn, to
Rev. Wright, and B-HO himself. Not to mention the coward Eric Holder. They are the problem today! They are in YOUR party today, and support your party TODAY. Address them here, and find some credibility, so far you have none. And the list can go on. And it does include Gore Jr.

Seriously Bob? You’re gonna parrot that nonsense? Most of us have read about the origins of this.

You guys are funny..

Back when Gore was active in politics, he was considered something of a blockhead. With the passage of years and the dumbing down of our society as the old breed with common sense has died off, Gore has morphed into a Nobel winning scientist even though he is just as stupid as ever.

Treating one side of a debate as if it represents a type of racism that should be censored is proof of Gore’s further descent into stupidity. I’m trying to imagine scientific academic journals where one theorist is treated like the KKK and another like a Jew-hater and another like little black Sambo and I actually CAN imagine it because I have this story right in front of me to read.

These morons have done this with every important policy debate there is from immigration to education to policing the streets. “Racist, racist, racist” and now they’re trying, and proudly trumpeting the fact, to cross that over to science. To say liberals are, generally speaking, a group of unflinching morons would be a compliment in that it wouldn’t point out the fact that they are also insane.

In truth, with policy debate shouted down by politically correct morons intent on transporting the failed overflow of failed Third World nations to America, I’d say you can kiss this country good-bye. If you think we’re going to somehow recapture the glamor of our golden age with 100 million people coming straight off the donkey of the Third World while being led by the peculiar world view of the Rainbow Coalition whose policies have infiltrated down to the bedrock of our schools, art and mass media, you are mistaken.

Don’t look now but, relative to the year 1960, America HAS been destroyed.

What is “my way of preventing it?” I wish I knew. Is there a list of companies to boycott somewhere? Stocks not to buy? Don’t we all do “a little” but for the most part are busy living our lives? Gore’s an idiot, I can’t repeat that enough.

I’m just saying that we are spending too much time arguing about Al Gore and “global warming”. How about some constructive ideas. Enough vitriol.

Cap and trade is a bad idea, from a corporate stand point, way too easy to get around. I was always told that if you criticize a solution, you need to come up with a better one.

In a symbolic sense, I doubt Gore could “invent” his own eggs in the morning. I could get as much unflagging idiocy from a mandrill.

From a Democrats Orwellian world view, yes, employing racism to end racism is in fact, the way to end it. Just like using anthrax to rid your house of mice.

wow Ndanielson would you like me to write off a list of racist moron who ran for congress senate and the president in your party? You brought up the civil rights act in this conversation not me. I have blown you out of the water. Great Al Sharpton isn’t that special. How about Pat Roberson on your side? Or David Duke? Or Strum Thrumond? Or a million other bigots and race baiters or gay bashers you guys had or currently have? We could play that game all night long. You argument was that the republicans were some type of progressive force during the civil rights era is baloney. For more event proof of this fact look at who voted against the Martin luther King holiday when Reagan signed it into law.

Have you ever noticed that hurricane’s take the same route as slave ships? Racist for sure.

heres a list of guys in congress who voted against MLK DAY.

House of Representatives:Douglas Applegate (D-OH-18)
William Reynolds Archer, Jr. (R-TX-7)
Robert Badham (R-CA-40)
Steve Bartlett (R-TX-3)
Herbert Bateman (R-VA-1)
Michael Bilirakis (R-FL-9)
Hank Brown (R-CO-4)
Carroll Cambell, Jr. (R-SC-4)
William Carney (R-NY-1)
William Clinger (R-PA-23)
Barber Conable, Jr. (R-NY-30)
Larry Craig (R-ID-1)
Daniel Crane (R-IL-19)
Philip Crane (R-IL-12)
Dan Daniel (D-VA-5)
William Dannemeyer (R-CA-39)
Bill Dickinson (R-AL-2)
David Dreier (R-CA-33)
John Erlenborn (R-IL-13)
Bobbi Fiedler (R-CA-21)
Jack Fields (R-TX-8)
Webb Franklin (R-MS-2)
Bill Frenzel (R-MN-3)
William Goodling (R-PA-19)
Phil Gramm (R-TX-6)
Sam Hall, Jr. (D-TX-1)
John Paul Hammerschmidt (R-AR-3)
James Hansen (R-UT-1)
Marjorie Holt (R-MD-4)
Earl Hutto (D-FL-1)
Andy Ireland (R-FL-10)
James Jeffords (R-VT)
Ed Jenkins (D-GA-9)
Thomas Kindness (R-OH-8)
Ken Kramer (R-CO-5)
Robert Lagomarsino (R-CA-19)
Delbert Latta (R-OH-5)
Marvin Leath (D-TX-11)
Tom Loeffler (R-TX-21)
Trent Lott (R-MS-5)
Manuel Lujan, Jr. (R-NM-1)
Ron Marlenee (R-MT-2)
David Marriott (R-UT-2)
Lynn Martin (R-IL-16)
James Martin (R-NC-9)
David Martin (R-NY-26)
John McCain (R-AZ-1)
Al McCandless (R-CA-37)
Bill McCollum (R-FL-5)
Larry McDonald (D-GA-7)
Clarence Miller (R-OH-10)
Guy Molinari (R-NY-14)
G. V. “Sonny” Montgomery (D-MS-3)
William Moore III (R-LA-6)
Carlos Moorhead (R-CA-22)
Bill Nichols (D-AL-3)
Howard Nielson (R-UT-3)
Ron Packard (R-CA-43)
Chip Pashayan (R-CA-17)
Ron Paul (R-TX-22)
Thomas Petri (R-WI-6)
Carl Pursell (R-MI-2)
James Quillen (R-TN-1)
Richard Ray (D-GA-3)
James Robinson (R-VA-7)
Hal Rogers (R-KY-5)
Toby Roth (R-WI-8)
Eldon Rudd (R-AZ-4)
Dan Schaefer (R-CO-6)
Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI-9)
Richard Shelby (D-AL-7)
Norman Shumway (R-CA-14)
Bud Shuster (R-PA-9)
Virginia Smith (R-NE-3)
Denny Smith (R-OR-5)
Robert Smith (R-OR-2)
Gene Snyder (R-KY-4)
Gerald Solomon (R-NY-24)
Floyd Spence (R-SC-2)
Arlan Stangeland (R-MN-7)
Charles Stenholm (D-TX-17)
Bob Stump (R-AZ-3)
Don Sundquist (R-TN-7)
Tom Tauke (R-IA-2)
Gene Taylor (R-MO-7)
Barbara Vucanovich (R-NV-2)
George Whitehurst (R-VA-2)
Larry Winn, Jr. (R-KS-3)
C. W. Bill Young (R-FL-8)
James Scheuer (D-NY-8) did not vote on the resolution, although he was present that day.Senate:James Abdnor (R-SD)John East (R-NC)Jim Exon (D-NE)Jake Garn (R-UT)Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)Chuck Grassley (R-IA)Orrin Hatch (R-UT)Chic Hecht (R-NV)Jesse Helms (R-NC)Gordon Humphrey (R-NH)Roger Jepsen (R-IA)James McClure (R-ID)Frank Murkowski (R-AK)Don Nickles (R-OK)Larry Pressler (R-SC)Jennings Randolph (D-WV)Warren Rudman (R-NH)John Stennis (D-MS)Steve Symms (R-ID)John Tower (R-TX)Malcom Wallop (R-WY)Edward Zorinsky (D-NE)

hope you notice a pattern there.

LOL…. this is where you link to as evidence to prove your point. In the words of Dan Akroyd…..”Michelle you ignorant slut……”

If I could make millions spwewing global warming bs I would in a heartbeat. If someone trying to expose the truth threatened me making millions I probably would  behave like Al. My point is it’s about money not reality.

We all owe “FreeCommonSense” a debt of gratitude. Through stubborn and persistent attempts and failures to make the case for the Flim-Flam man’s insatiable greed, FreeCommonSense has forced out some of the most damning evidence against it for us to read. Some will find it all new and others will find added ammunition to tear down the climate scam. All in all there is a lot here in print to explain further why we need attention to the environment and it should definitely not be Al Gore’s way.
If anyone has more links or evidence, put it out here with the rest on this thread.

believe you willl love it.–***—****look love— w w w – jordanforworld – c o m —————————————————————————believe you will love it.love good go.

You realize that I replied to your question asking “who’s arguing that there is no separation between church and state?”

She´s completely wrong and spits on the work of the Founding Fathers.

So if I accept the ludicrous assumptions that there is no separation of church and state feel free to show me the parts of the Constitution where the Church is included in the State.

Something like The French Estates General or the Estates of the Realm. You know where the church was indeed part of the state.

Thanks!

Don´t project your fear!

Sell us more carbon credits ,please , Algore .

Al has been off his rocker for a long time . Look how many people joined him .

Boy, that stimulus sure worked out well, didn’t it?

Republicans love the rich and want everyone to be rich. Democrats love the poor and want everyone to be poor.

Um, no.

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

Yes We Can Change The Weather!

No, really, you can’t.

40 years ago there was no prediction of an ice age that would happen soon. That´s factually wrong. It´s a lie.

http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/

If you are around in 20,000 years you can take on the scientists for making the prediction of a new ice age.

The science is settled in so far that something that was predicted at the end of the 19th century was confirmed throughout the 20th century with empirical data and changed the position in the scientific community to the status quo where the vast majority of scientists in this field are in agreement. The key role of CO2 for climate change is acknowledged and confirmed till someone is able to disprove it.

You aren´t saying chemicals in very small doses compared to the total volume can´t have an effect, are you?

Regardless of AGW, oil prices will go further up because it´s highly demanded commodity around the globe and it is obviously not available forever.

The country is on the path to become a 3rd world country because it has little to offer to compete with highly sophisticated societies that generate well paid jobs for highly qualified workers. Not retail or fast food.

Others are already far ahead in green technologies and securing a great position for themselves by reducing the dependency on oil and by the ability to export know-how and green products.

In 5-10 years from now the big whining will start when Germany, China, Japan and others will dominate the world economy with their top notch, energy efficient products.
They aren´t waiting for us to get it…and we will have Wal-Mart where we can buy it.

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, they show disrespect totheir elders…. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they alone knew everything and what passes
for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for girls, they are forward, immodest and unwomanly inspeech, behaviour and dress.”- Socrates

Yeah, these billions of cavemen with their cars, planes and factories. They were as many as us today and had the very same life style.

Past climate changes tend to support AGW, ya know.

This is a stupid debate and has turned into a troll fest of immense proportions. When did this become political?  Was it when corporations thought they were going to loose millions of dollars or when government found out it could make millions in tax revenue?  I don’t know and I don’t care.  Why don’t we do this…

Let stop with the apocolyptic talk on both ends.  The enviromentalist need to stop say we are killing earth or ourselves and the corperations need to stop saying they will be ruined and loose all their money.  Life and capitalism are very similar in that they always find a way to survive.  Once that’s out of the way, lets just try not to make a mess.  We DO cause too much waste, we DO use too much fossil fuel, and we DO pump god knows what into god knows where.  Lets try to stop companies from dumping toxic waste in rivers and streams.  Lets make sure when companies extract natural gas, the local citizens water faucets don’t catch fire.  Lets make nice parks and preserve some (not ALL, who is to say this is not what nature intended?) of the wonderous land and life that this world has to offer. Maybe if we all could do that, this stupid debate will go away.

I agree with George…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4

Climate scam started 1896…hell of a scam making the planet hotter for more than 100 years. I bet Al Gore has also a time travel machine.

I knew “Bull Connor,s”. And he was a friend of mine.

It is time to stop claiming that the “climate change” hoax is real. The evidence is in and almost all the data used in previous studies, cited by the tree huggers that write to this paper, have all been proven to have been doctored or manipulated.
 
NASA just released a study that proved that temperatures’ have not risen in 16 years.
 http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html
 
Polar bears are not in danger. The “scientist” that made that claim has been suspended for doctoring the data.
http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-arctic-scientist-under-investigation-082217993.html
 
The loons claim that doubting there junk science is denying “science”. Did these folks believe these same “climatologists” when in the 70’s they told us there was a coming “Ice Age”? I didn’t believe them. I was right and they were wrong.
 
Do these folks believe the computer models that tell us what the temperature will be ten days from now? I don’t believe those predictions and they make them everyday on the weather forecast and they are always wrong.
 
Climate prediction is not an “exact” science. We should not spend billions of dollars on “tree hugger” science.
 
 The hoax is used to stop oil drilling and the mining of coal and to extract money from the United States to give to countries that hate us. Do not believe anyone that writes to this paper citing old data that has been proven to be doctored.
 

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

I think the concept is that China is aware that their rapid growth is creating huge environmental problems for them. My Nephew was over there on a business trip and said if you were outside in certain areas for a while you’d find a form of soot on your clothes that was in the air.
China wants to continue to grow but doesn’t want to keep creating new environmental problems.  The next frontier in technology will be clean energy and clean manufacturing. Yes it will be a long process but step one seems to be to acknowledge that that’s where we’re heading. There’s concern that the deniers will hold the US back from being at the forefront of that technology.
Obviously we won’t stop using fossil fuels in the next couple of years but we do need to invest in the research that will lead us away from them a decade or two from now.

irrelevant to the article.

I disagree with Al Gore on this, although he’s on the right track.

There is a moral component to climate change that is relevant, but the analogy is much better kept in the realm of science.  The problem is denialism, an anti-scientific disposition that many people have.  People don’t like scientific information, or they have some reason, such as firmly established beliefs, to not accept the facts of science.

The better analogy for climate change denialism is evolution.  Because of deeply held, ancient beliefs, many people refuse to accept the overwhelming scientific evidence that humans evolved over many millions of years from little monkeys that survived the event that wiped out the dinosaurs. 

I don’t have any data to back up this suspicion, but I suspect that there is a greater overlap between deniers of evolution and deniers of anthropomorphic global warming (AGW) than there is between deniers of racial equality and the deniers of AGW.

When you have nothing else in your bag of tricks, you can ALWAYS rely on pulling the RACE CARD trick.

Many of my Democrats friends and family have completely changed their views on the Democrat party.

I really don’t disagree with what you said, as I’m sure probably no one who thinks Gore is a charletain disagree either. Although, there really is no viable alternatives to fossil fuels right now unless we want to de-evolve the economy and create massive poverty.

See. That was easy.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/aug/22/rick-perry/rick-perry-says-more-and-more-scientists-are-quest/
While there is disagreement on how serious Global Warming is and some of the details the agreement that it is a scientific fact is stronger than any denial.

To be clear, we’re not saying that no scientists — as in zero —
dispute climate change is caused by human activity.  We looked into the
work of the most prominent and best credentialed people who have
questioned the IPCC’s conclusions on global warming. Generally speaking,
even these scientists do not claim
that humans are making no contribution at all to rising temperatures.
Rather, they tend to make more nuanced points. They question whether
carbon emissions alone are driving up temperatures, or whether other human activities contribute
as well. They question whether extreme weather events such as storms or
floods can be conclusively linked to rising temperatures. And, they
question whether significant changes to public policy are necessary as a means of coping with rising temperatures.

Wow. Leave it to Gore to finagle the race card into the climate change issue.

And Gore is an expert on race since he requested a black roommate at Harvard.

Every time I see the same old argument rehashed about which party was more racist during the civil rights movement I’m reminded of what a colossal waste of time it is.

In politics and economics where there is room for differing opinions, arguments and interpretations, conservatives may be able to get away with BS by pointing fingers and exercising their favorite political sports, projection. But citing Robert Byrd as evidence of racism in the democratic party is laughable. Racism is associated with the right for a reason. No amount of intellectual arguments can be made to make a case otherwise

I think his point was to not allow ignorance to go unchallenged.

“I don’t have any data to back up this suspicion,”

That thread seems to be a constant for you.

Jimmy Carter had some great years, right?  Of course the left hates the idea that the Reagan years laid the ground work for the Dot Com boom.

Liberal programs? They all worked so good that they are now unsustainable. More moochers. More leeches. More parasites.

Yes, tell us how those wonderful liberal welfare programs have helped destroy the black families.

Had Byrd wanted to continue his association with racism, he’d have changed parties

Well, I didn’t say the planet wasn’t warming, did I? I also didn’t say that human beings weren’t contributing to it. I didn’t say we should ignore the environment.
That misdirects and avoids the real argument, as Al Gore would have you to do. That obfuscation with your help is exactly what he is counting on to win the day.
The argument is that this has taken a basically good cause and transformed it into a scam to increase the oppressive scope of government control, increase taxation and filling Al Gore’s bank accounts through the process. People are “denying” that Al Gore’s plans are the way to go, not so much the warming of the planet.
Gore is one of those “fat cats” just like the ones everybody screams about. For the life of me, I can’t see how he has gained this much support.

Oh Al, what’s the matter – did the “Holocaust denier” label lose effectiveness – so now you have to jump on the next hot controversy “racism” because of Barack Obama. you make me sick. Go away.

Gore presents a pretty odd view. Rather he should have clearly pointed out that the most dramatic effects of global warming are felt by the population on other continents like currently in Somalia.

That’s rich Al, coming from YOU:

“It is easy to control the minds of a people. All one has to do is change history by lying about the past. This is exactly what has happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al Gore, Sr. of Tennessee – the father of our current vice president – and his mythical “support” of civil rights.

In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his father lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights legislation. Fellow bIack Americans, let me set history straight. Al Gore, Sr., together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

In the end, the Gore Amendment was defeated by a vote of 74-25. Senator J. William Fulbright of Arkansas, one of President Bill Clinton’s political mentors, was among the 23 southern Democratic senators and only one Republican voting with Gore for this racist amendment.”

Algore = Insufferable Idiot demanding relevance.

Bombshell  !!

If global warming advocates weren’t so alarmist, like in “An Inconvenient Truth” which predicted dire floding and mega-storms by now, maybe more people would take their arguments seriously.  Perhaps if there weren’t a failed ”carbon exchange”, coincidentally partially owned by Al Gore,  where junk science was to be used to justify extracting money from companies for ”carbon credits” then people wouldn’t be so suspicious of “global warming” strategically rebranded as “climate change”.  To whom were the “carbon traders” going to give the ”credits” they extracted from legitimate businesses?  Answer:  Their buddies.  Big government insiders like Al Gore.  Friends of insiders would get breaks and allowances, critics would have to pay.  Thank goodness “climategate” happened to help quash the “global warming” a.k.a. “climate change” propaganda.  Hey Al, where are the mega storms?  Irene certainly doesn’t qualify, it was no worse than Gloria or Bob.  Why isn’t Bangladesh completely underwater yet?

Isn’t it hard to be wrong all the time?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_5_59/ai_113681711/

Hey, I’m a conservative and know Man Made Climate Change is a hoax and a new report from CERN and NASA prove it. Here is one http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/08/26/lawrence-solomon-science-now-settled/  the other is a report by Dr. Roy Spencer. Both show that the Sun not man is responsible for the warming. Learn to think for your self and you might learn something.

There are too many to count. including Al Gores Father.

But you offer no proof. typical lib!

Gore: “I remember, again going back to my early years in the South, when the Civil Rights revolution was unfolding, there were two things that really made an impression on me,” Gore said. “My generation watched Bull Connor turning the hose on civil rights demonstrators and we went, ‘Whoa! How gross and evil is that?’

Hell Al, you left out that Bull Conner was a racist Democrat like YOUR FATHER who voted against the CRA of ’64.

Man, Dem hypocrisy never dies.

Gore needs to shut up and stop adding his noxious emissions to the atmosphere. He has less credibility than the naked cowboy in Times Square. He and Olbermann can play their onanistic games together. and leave the rest of us alone.

What is the ONE thing ALL Liberals resort to when they don’t get their way?

That is right…they play the race card!!!

And to think people actually voted for this nut!!
Even more astonishing is that there are people who would still vote for this nut!!

Any bets he hopped into his carbon spewing private jet minutes after this interview?

This guy is a complete idiot!!

And inside that link was a link to a petition signed by thousands of scientists who don’t buy the hoax.  Why should we believe your scientists over them?

ps, your routine of calling me a slut, skank, etc. is childish.  All it does is point out you can’t debate the facts so you must resort to name calling. 

Yet he got Tommy Lee Jones…

Yet he got Tommy Lee Jones…

People like Gore are one symptom of the bigger problem that liberals find themselves in. You can only claim that the sky is falling so many times before people completely disengage. As liberals are all too aware, and in fact count on, is that people have very short memories, so it should come as no shock to them that people are moving on to more important issues. Despite being bombarded by doomsday rhetoric, we’re still here the oceans are the same level, and polar bears still frolic on the ice. Most people have no doubt that the climate is in continuous flux, how much of it is man-made is still open for debate, but many people see the “green” movement for what it is, simply a way to usurp more power from the masses and send it to the ruling elite. Politicians are not scientists, and when politicians want to rush everyone into something before they’ve had a chance to figure it out, something’s up, and it’s almost always not good.

A couple times a week there is cem trails put out by jets that put a film over the earth to keep green gases in  If these were commercial jet there would have trail everyday, the commercial ones disappear in  one hour, IF you notice after the cem-trail we have a haze over for days  .   Google about HAARP to learn how they are causing earthquakes . The earthquake on the east was to warm the area for the hurricane too follow

and flies to one of his many homes around the world.  this guy needs to just go away and stay away.

That is funny since science does not support the Theory of Global Warming.  Time and time again we find out about falsified data, distortions and tricks of the leftists who are trying to create science to give the illusion of Global Warming.  Recently NASA came out and blew the Global Warming movement out of the water, but it was barely a speed bump to the left.

List those who voted against the 1957, 1960, 1964 CRAs if you want to see a pattern!

Typical Progressive Socialist mantra: when you’re losing an argument, call your opponents racists. Or terrorists; when this bullshit predictably doesn’t work that’ll be the next stage.

Or, maybe he’ll whip out the ol’ Devil Sandwich… and then his fat ass will gobble the whole thing up.

Yes, your boy is saying the science is settled and won’t debate the issue, won’t debate, and never has. He’s actually said we have a consensus! Wow, and one time there was a consensus that the earth was flat, too. In fact those that said the earth was not flat were considered heretics. Today they’d be racists.

And  yes, genius, we need another holiday for a black man to show how we are not racist. Government cannot provide the taxpayer with an honest days work now, but let’s have another holiday for the hard working federal workers on the taxpayer dime to show how non-racist we are??? Wow. You get to prove you are not racists by having a holiday on the working man’s dime, and we are racist for saying no? How very big of you. God,you guys are sick.

Let’s see, my local meteorologist told me it wasn’t going to rain today. It’s pouring. Please, if the scientific community shows me they can tell me what’s going on tomorrow with 50% accuracy, I may start to believe them in their ability to tell what’s going to happen next week. . In the meantime, are these the same scientists that claimed global cooling 15 years ago. It’s all bullshit and a way for scientist to keep their jobs and Fat Albert to make millions playing the carbon credit market.

Forget facts, we have Fat Al for the facts we need. Do you actually squeeze your dog to get that stuff out. Must be a michael vick fan, but he just bludgeons them or hangs them for his dog squeeze. You know dog flatulence also adds to global stinking.

“I disagree with Al Gore on this, although he’s on the right track.” Yeah, right, you are both on the Crazy Train!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRbPWcLode0

So finally the troof comes out, Thomas Jefferson was responbile for Katrina. Phewww, that solved. And when the ocean rises, what’s Al gonna do about his new oceanfront house he just built. Taking a big chance there, but I guess he can fly away in his big old private jet. Hypocritical f@@kwad.

It’s amusing to see climate-change deniers claim that those who believe in science and evidence are idiots. Dunning-Kruger effect, anyone?

yeah, all those blacks with rights and woman working with equality and shit, this place has gone to hell in a handbasket.

Actually,before today, the last time I thought of Al Gore was when I dropped a turd in the bowl and it looked like a hanging chad. That was weird.

That’s the problem with ever – escalating hyperbole; once you go so far out there, there is no graceful way to end the lies. Gore’s boarded the crazy train and it’s on it’s way to the heart of credibility oblivion.

That was priceless!

who’d you check with, the blamer in chief, Barrack Insane Owhiner

Is this the king, come on, take off your mask.

Every time that idiot opens his fat mouth I become more convinced that man made climate change is a total fraud. 

Ha! Germany’s “Der Spiegel” broke today that green energy is breaking all records. 20% of the country’s energy comes from sustainable sources today, they say, and the whole country backs the energy transition. Put that in your pipe, America! Europe’s economic power horse is boldly going forward on green energy and addressing global warming, while the US’s energy dialogue has been taken hostage by reactionary republican ideology for years! LOL! Just keep denying and blocking progress, righties, while the rest of the world moves ahead.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/0,1518,783173,00.html

Can someone please explain to me where Al Gore was when we had a global flood way back when, global ice-age way back when, and a global drought way back when? What brought all those on before people were here? Listen, climates have been changing since the beginning of time and we mere humans cannot change that fact one way or another. If you beleive science which shows those things happend well before the earth was populatted.Al Gore is just mad because all the stock he has bought in green energy has not made him the $billions and $trillions he is looking for off of the poor and rich alike…

That’s funny stuff.

http://www.taxationinfonews.com/2011/03/carbon-tax-fraud-germany-hopes-to-recover-millions-of-euro/

A German Energy Agency study released in February 2005 after some delay [click here] stated that increasing the amount of wind power
would increase consumer costs 3.7 times more than otherwise and that the
theoretical reduction of greenhouse gas emissions could be achieved much more
cheaply by simply installing filters on existing fossil-fuel plants. A similar
conclusion was made by the Irish grid manager in a study released in February
2004 [click here for 172-KB PDF]: “The cost of CO2 abatement arising from using large levels of wind
energy penetration appears high relative to other alternatives.” In
Germany, utilities are forced to buy renewable energy at sometimes more than 10
times the cost of conventional power, in France 3 times. In the U.K., the
Telegraph has reported that rather than providing cheaper energy, wind
power costs the electric companies £50 per megawatt-hour, compared to £15 for
conventional power. The
wind industry is worried that the U.K., too, is starting to see that it is only
subsidies and requirements on utilities to buy a certain amount of “green” power
that prop up the wind towers and that it is a colossal waste of resources. The
BWEA has even resorted to threatening prominent opponents as more projects are
successfully blocked. Interestingly, long-term plans for energy use and
emissions reduction by both the U.K. and the U.S. governments do not mention
wind [click here for more about this (the article is in Spanish)].
Flemming Nissen, head of development at the Danish utility Elsam, told a meeting
in Copenhagen, May 27, 2004, “Increased development of wind turbines does not
reduce Danish CO2 emissions.” 

http://www.aweo.org/problemwithwind.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/feb/26/sciencenews.renewableenergy

German Pushes Alternatives to Nuclear Energy

by Rachel
Martin NPR

October 26, 2005

October 26, 2005

Germany is facing a self-imposed energy crunch. Alternative sources such as
wind, solar and biothermal energy are supposed to replace nuclear power, which
is being phased out by 2020. However, some Germans believe they are neither
adequate nor better for the environment. German population= 81 million  land mass=357021 square kilometersUnited States population= 312 million  land mass= 9629091 square KilometersLogistics pal.”TMP”

Ice Sleds…it was the Ice Sleds that caused the Ice Age.

We need not worry…in 40 years this same “Global Warming” crowd will be back pushing the coming ice age, just like they did 40 years ago.

Been saying the same. Wont impress anyone of the rightwingers.Wait till the huge whining and bitching starts when America will import all these goodies and pay for the jobs in Germany and elsewhere while having no clue how to create jobs in one of the most important industries for the 21st century.

I couldn’t be happier that someone besides us is spending money on green energy technology. I’m not at all opposed to being a good steward of the Earth, provided we don’t have to drastically change the way we do things. A smooth transition to cleaner energy is a desirable thing, most people would agree, but the sky-is-falling rhetoric for political purposes is what turns people off. The Earth itself pumps way more greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere than we do, and lots of people recognize that this doesn’t need to be done overnight and at such a high cost to citizens’ personal freedoms.

40 years ago there was no prediction of an ice age that would happen soon. That´s factually wrong. It´s a lie.

http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/...

So what´s your suggestion for a global problem? Have people decide on their own how much CO2 they want to blast into the sky?

I coudn´t care less about Al Gore as a person. Prob did more harm than good as easy target. At least nobody can claim he doesn´t put money where his mouth is.

Show me something other than a computer model that proves MMGW is a fact and not just a theory.

I’ve read volumes of reports and studied many areas involved in this HOAX and yet not one scientist (even the IPCC people) will say beyond a reasonable doubt that it is a verified fact and not just a Scientific theory.  Of course you have the idiotic Al Gore cultists that will say anything but they can never provide more than opinion or lies to back any of it up.

Latest polls show that Half of the people polled, MMGW is not an important consern in this country right now.  That’s down from 70%.

“TMP”

Here we go again! Don’t bother to reply with all that leftist rhetoric or garbage about God.  I want nothing but facts, not opinions.

They certainly mitigated the effects of the institutional systemic racist policies instituted by conservatives and the misery brought upon by these policies in these communities

Nothing could be further from the truth. Engineers know that gov grants toward science are more plentiful in Republican Administration.  That is a fact. If you think this POTUS is a science president, go ask Nasa. They used to explore space. not they are a Muslim recruiting tool.  Furthermore, Science does not require the evolution “theory.”  After all, Darwin was explaining why one race was superior to another; it is a theory that justifies racism. Of course, Democrats have always been racist, it is no secret.. 

The GOP is actually the anti bad science party. Environmental scare artists have found a welcoming home on the Left for 50 years now, despite literally every prediction being either flatly wrong or vastly overstated. The Left of course embraces every faux crisis because somehow the solution is always the same – Less choices, higher taxes, more socialism!

Algore is the third derivative of displacement with respect to time = jerk

Also, Demo-krauts

Actually, as with about 90% of what you claim about me, that is a bald-faced lie.

What I am prone to point out, not this time, but since YOU decided to slam me to smear me again, is that Glenn Beck is a liar.

We have a lot of data to back that up.  Data that you NEVER address: instead you just name-call.

C’mon, reactionary Beckerhead; address any one of these lies that have been proven:

http://glennbeckreport.com/glenn-beck-lies/

Thank, once again, for opening the door to that opportunity.  I can always count on you to open the door for me to drive home that point, that point that drives you nuts, that point that gets your panties in a huge bunch, that point that makes you boil at hatred for me because I’ve made it my mission to expose Beck for the liar and hypocrite that he is.

Show us that you own a pair, and address any of these documented lies from Glenn Beck.

http://glennbeckreport.com/glenn-beck-lies/

Actually, as with about 90% of what you claim about me, that is a bald-faced lie.

What I am prone to point out, not this time, but since YOU decided to slam me to smear me again, is that Glenn Beck is a liar.

We have a lot of data to back that up.  Data that you NEVER address: instead you just name-call.

C’mon, reactionary Beckerhead; address any one of these lies that have been proven:

http://glennbeckreport.com/glenn-beck-lies/

Thank, once again, for opening the door to that opportunity.  I can always count on you to open the door for me to drive home that point, that point that drives you nuts, that point that gets your panties in a huge bunch, that point that makes you boil at hatred for me because I’ve made it my mission to expose Beck for the liar and hypocrite that he is.

Show us that you own a pair, and address any of these documented lies from Glenn Beck.

http://glennbeckreport.com/glenn-beck-lies/

More Leftist projections of your own racial superiority onto the Right.  Who else but a racist would attempt to systematically infantilize and psychologically cripple an ethnic group under the guise of compassion? If your intention was to turn the transient poverty class into a larger, perpetually disaffected permanent, underclass with your governmental programs, congratulations. You succeeded.  If I were black, I would mistrust any self appointed liberal guardian who believes that success is only possible in the US for blacks when smiling Uncle Libby is directing it and I would only have to look at the crumbling inner cities as evidence of it..

AL GORE,
We don’t believe in Global Warming.   We don’t believe that we should not eat meat,  Your suggestions are not working.  Why don’t you go to one of your hotels for a massage?  This time, avoid getting caught.  It will get you out of our way.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

Spoken like one who has no clue how money and wealth is created. 

Not a lie. I was in school in the 60′s when the teacher brought in some clown from the UW who explained that all data pointed to an impending cooling period. This is the same teacher that brought in some other clown who told us that we’d run out of oil by the year 2000, too, so the guy’s probably lucky he had tenure.

Even the leaders of the AGW movement have admitted that temperatures have not risen to fit the models. There has been no warming for at least a decade.  It’s one thing to cling to a theory which is being disproved every day. Its another thing altogether when you dont even know what your own research has demonstrated.   That moron Gore and others like you  predicted more hurricanes when the exact opposite is true.  There is no increased instability.

Even the leaders of the AGW movement have admitted that temperatures have not risen to fit the models. There has been no warming for at least a decade.  It’s one thing to cling to a theory which is being disproved every day. Its another thing altogether when you dont even know what your own research has demonstrated.   That moron Gore and others like you  predicted more hurricanes when the exact opposite is true.  There is no increased instability.

In America, we do not burn books, the left likes to re-write them to fit today’s needs, which is what you are trying to do.

But nice try!

How many times do you have to be told that this is about you and not Beck!

Damn, master of arts and still stupid as a post.

Yes, I am a racist! I doubt man-made global warming because it’s being promoted by Rich, White men who drive SUV’s, Jet all over the world, live in multiple mansions that consume massive amounts of man made energy and sit at Environmental conferences at a 100ft table made from endangered species wood. Take that you Honky Cracker Gore! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDmaFehshys

Get your facts straight sometime.

Why does your response have anything to do with the article. Why are you asking the gubermint to fix your problems? Where is your personal responsibility?

Why does your response have anything to do with the article. Why are you asking the gubermint to fix your problems? Where is your personal responsibility?

No you’re saying that because the idea of not being racist hasn’t reached you yet. There are thirty other racist who agree with your rant. Some very sick teabaggers.

No you’re saying that because the idea of not being racist hasn’t reached you yet. There are thirty other racist who agree with your rant. Some very sick teabaggers.

When the incredibly reliable “computer models” can consistently predict the weather just 24 hours in advance, I may change my tune, but until then, back away from my SUV.  Folks, we have become a techno-stupid society.  No one ever uses any common sense any more.  Look at climate change throughout history.  It goes through cycles, and did long before there were automobiles and factories.  No one denies that climate change is happening, but is our Tahoe really at fault? I seriously doubt it…and, It’s been a while so I don’t remember the exact articles, but I have read more that one scientific publication debunking the theories of “global warming” as a result of human behavior.  All that being said, Al Gore is an idiot and Tenesseans are largely embarassed by him.  But let’s not forget, he invented the internet, too!

Yeah that science is never big with the uninformed or the WILLFULLY ignorant.

You’re right. Although we had sixty votes most of the time and a majority in both houses, it only takes one teabagger to want to destroy the country so Obama will not have a second term. What will the morons do when its January,2012, and Obama is being sworn in again? The emergency rooms will be filled in November when the hundreds of teabagger heads explode.

What a sick, racist comment by a redneck- not surprising though as hateful racists are fully out of the closet,

My dog makes more sense.

Do you have any idea how looney you sound??  You’re only one step ahead that the biggest nut job of ALL….ALGORE!!!!!

Can you name one retard president since Ike who didn’t break the laws of the constitution?
Just one? Come on someone in your cubicles has a idiot reply.

There is no scientific proof that life begins at conception doofus.

But Dems controlled the purse until 2010.  Now Obummer can’t be bothered.

Moron- weather and climate are not the same.

LOL!!!  Who are the racists anyway?  The only ones I hear talking about race are blacks and maybe some idiot Dems who can’t give a logical argument for anything.  So they throw out that old….tired…meaningless taunt of Racist.

That Racist ship left long ago…not more bite. 

That was BEFORE the 2010 elections, so far as Congress goes.  But Obama is using presidential fiats and  Czars and federal agencies like NLRB and EPA to go around Congress and the will of the people to shove things down our throats. 

I compare Gore to a 21st Century idiot.

Actually, no it is not a lie. I was in school 40 years ago and learned it then. Where were you 40 years ago when this was being taught in schools?

From Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

In 1795, the Scottish philosopher and gentleman naturalist, James Hutton (1726–1797), explained erratic boulders in the Alps with the action of glaciers. Two decades later, in 1818, the Swedish botanist Göran Wahlenberg
(1780–1851) published his theory of a glaciation of the Scandinavian
peninsula. He regarded glaciation as a regional phenomenon. Only a few years later, the Danish-Norwegian Geologist Jens Esmark
(1763–1839) argued a sequence of worldwide ice ages. In a paper
published in 1824, Esmark proposed changes in climate as the cause of
those glaciations. He attempted to show that they originated from
changes in the Earth’s orbit.
During the following years, Esmark’s ideas were discussed and taken
over in parts by Swedish, Scottish and German scientists. At the
University of Edinburgh Robert Jameson
(1774–1854) seemed to be relatively open towards Esmark’s ideas.
Jameson’s remarks about ancient glaciers in Scotland were most probably
prompted by Esmark.
In Germany, Albrecht Reinhard Bernhardi (1797–1849), professor of
forestry at Dreissigacker, adopted Esmark’s theory. In a paper published
in 1832, Bernhardi speculated about former polar ice caps reaching as
far as the temperate zones of the globe.
Independently of these debates, the Swiss civil engineer Ignaz Venetz
(1788–1859) in 1829, explained the dispersal of erratic boulders in the
Alps, the nearby Jura Mountains and the North German Plain as being due
to huge glaciers. When he read his paper before the Schweizerische
Naturforschende Gesellschaft, most scientists remained sceptical.
Finally, Venetz managed to convince his friend Jean de Charpentier. De
Charpentier transformed Venetz’s idea into a theory with a glaciation
limited to the Alps. His thoughts resembled Wahlenberg’s theory. In
fact, both men shared the same volcanistic, or in de Charpentier’s case
rather plutonistic
assumptions, about earth history. In 1834, de Charpentier presented his
paper before the Schweizerische Naturforschende Gesellschaft. In the meantime, the German botanist Karl Friedrich Schimper
(1803–1867) was studying mosses which were growing on erratic boulders
in the alpine upland of Bavaria. He began to wonder where such masses of
stone had come from. During the summer of 1835 he made some excursions
to the Bavarian Alps. Schimper came to the conclusion that ice must have
been the means of transport for the boulders in the alpine upland. In
the winter of 1835 to 1836 he held some lectures in Munich. Schimper
then assumed that there must have been global times of obliteration
(“Verödungszeiten“) with a cold climate and frozen water. Schimper spent the summer months of 1836 at Devens, near Bex, in the Swiss Alps with his former university friend Louis Agassiz
(1801–1873) and Jean de Charpentier. Schimper, de Charpentier and
possibly Venetz convinced Agassiz that there had been a time of
glaciation. During Winter 1836/7 Agassiz and Schimper developed the
theory of a sequence of glaciations. They mainly drew upon the preceding
works of Goethe,
of Venetz, of de Charpentier and on their own fieldwork. There are
indications that Agassiz was already familiar with Bernhardi’s paper at
that time. At the beginning of 1837 Schimper coined the term ice age (“Eiszeit“).
In July 1837 Agassiz presented their synthesis before the annual
meeting of the Schweizerische Naturforschende Gesellschaft at Neuchâtel.
The audience was very critical or even opposed the new theory because
it contradicted the established opinions on climatic history. Most
contemporary scientists thought that the earth had been gradually
cooling down since its birth as a molten globe.

In order to overcome this rejection, Agassiz embarked on geological fieldwork. He published his book Study on glaciers (“Études sur les glaciers”) in 1840.
De Charpentier was put out by this as he had also been preparing a book
about the glaciation of the Alps. De Charpentier felt that Agassiz
should have given him precedence as it was he who had introduced Agassiz
to in depth glacial research. Besides that, Agassiz had, as a result of personal quarrels, omitted any mention of Schimper in his book.

Altogether, it took several decades until the ice age theory was
fully accepted. This happened on an international scale in the second
half of the 1870s following the work of James Croll including the publication of Climate and Time, in Their Geological Relations in 1875 which provided a credible explanation for the causes of ice ages.

So, since 1875 this has been the subject of study by science and it has been accepted teaching in Geology and earth science classes for MORE THAN 135 YEARS. You can read all about it on the internet, (which Al Gore did not invent).

Yes, why don’t you?

Der Speigel is the Deutsche version of National Enquirer and The Globe! Have you ever read it?

Wait until your electric bill from green sources hits the mailbox, you will think it was made from neutron star material.

Ja, Das ist in der extremen urkomischen!

That´s all cool, but has nothing to do with if an imminent Ice Age was predicted in the ’70′s? And the answers is no.

There wasn´t scientific consensus that an imminent ice age was coming in the 70´s. That´s a lie.

lol are you arguing on behalf of someone else and telling me we in “America, we do not burn books,”?

lol are you arguing on behalf of someone else and telling me we in “America, we do not burn books,”?

dood, it’s easier to provide renewable energy if the population and the country is small. I could increase my renewable energy figures to 50% from 40% if I didn’t have a much better use for my money.

I’ve been to Germany , in fact I lived there for over 5 years. Not everyone is in favor of the tanking economy and the heavy taxes to promote renewable energy.

I know people who hate the wind turbines because of the constant noise and electromagnetic interference they cause.

“TMP”

Ja, das ist die Scheiße immer tief.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

“TP”

Are you pirating my speech again? I use bald-faced lie to describe you on an almost daily basis, but this is the first time you have used it. Glad some of the teaching is sinking in. If I keep up at it long enough, Scarecrow, maybe you will get a brain!

 Yep Cosmo China is a dirty place and this is not a good thing. But we were a dirty place at one time to. My father can tell you stories in the 40s and 50s living in pittsburgh. He use to come home with soot in his hair and all over his clothes. The steel mills ran 24-7 pumping out massive amounts of smoke. People burned coal for heating fuel in stoves. The rivers were filled with crap and fish couldn’t live. But we figured out that this isn’t a good thing and government,business and the people cleaned things up. Although a lot of industrial jobs were lost as well. China is where we were 50 years ago, actually more like 100 years ago. No unions no regulations ect. This is probably not a good thing but its going to be up to them to change and like any society they will. But things still need to be produced to keep economies going so these polluting industries will move somewhere else. You cannot run a steel mill on solar or wind electricity. And steel or aluminum needs to be produced in large quantities for this world we live in. Renewable energy is a nice little thought and im all for it. But people on the left and environmentalist in general are either clueless about the amount of energy this world consumes or just leaving out the facts. I think its a bit of both. Emerging economies have no time to sit around and think about the future of global warming. Those people want a car and a house like we have.

“Ich bin ein Berliner.” LOL
Das ist Ausgezeichnet,Vater.

You are right.Obama has most firsts of any other POTUS.Lets list some of them–#1 First US down grade ever.#2—Most money spent by any POTUS ever and hasn’t even finished 1 term #3—First 1/2 black Potus #4—Worst POTUS ever”took over first from Carter #5—More blame on every one but Himself then any other POTUS  #6—First POTUS to by pass congress and commit our Military”Libya”and the list goes on.
If You want to know who is to blame for the financial meltdown go to You Tube search for  #1– Timeline Bush,McCain warning democrats of meltdown  #2—How the democrats caused the financial crisis.There are several more videos and the ones responsible are on camera in their own words Obama included on #2.

You are right.Obama has most firsts of any other POTUS.Lets list some of them–#1 First US down grade ever.#2—Most money spent by any POTUS ever and hasn’t even finished 1 term #3—First 1/2 black Potus #4—Worst POTUS ever”took over first from Carter #5—More blame on every one but Himself then any other POTUS  #6—First POTUS to by pass congress and commit our Military”Libya”and the list goes on.
If You want to know who is to blame for the financial meltdown go to You Tube search for  #1– Timeline Bush,McCain warning democrats of meltdown  #2—How the democrats caused the financial crisis.There are several more videos and the ones responsible are on camera in their own words Obama included on #2.

Thanks for that bit of enlightenment. Can anybody here translate stoopid to english.

I suppose that 135 years of serious study on the matter of recurring ice ages does not compute for you… I heard about this in earth science class in 8th grade – that was the 1960′s.

Merely pointing out that your claims about ice age recurrence are incorrect. I don’t use you tube as a reference, nor do I use it for any purpose other than entertainment, hence I don’t just click links especially when the claim being supported is off-base.

Danke.

Love them donuts!

Ha Ha Ha Ha

“TMP”

You know its funny this morning my neighbor was screaming at his car calling it racist because it would’nt start. How invective ha! It was a honda.

They are being felt here, just not as badly as other areas.

I’m disinclined to point to any one disaster and try to attach it to AGW.  Some climate disasters are just part of life on Earth, and Somalia is a part of the Earth that has droughts from time to time, just as the East Coast of the US is a part of the Earth that has hurricans from time to time.

If I were to point at any one data point, it would be the rise in the Earth’s oceans.

You could pretend to make a hint of sense.

This is the “bombshell.”

Publishing the allegation was my good-riddance gift to Mr. Beck.

I compare Gore to the early catholic Church,when Catholic though dominated scientific development.In the eyes of the church anyone with divergnt views were guilty of heresy(Galileo).It is this type of dogmatic view of gore’s that is a threat to scientific advencement and truth.

Al Gore the Pope of ecomentalist.

The “Dixie Crats” in the old democrat party did own slaves, but they became Republicans.  Now, I guess you need to google the names of Strom Thurmond (who actually fathered a black baby), Jesse Helms, to just name a couple.

So, it seems that the racist democrats went to the Republican party and were “welcomed”.

It doesn’t matter what polls say. Polls would have said that the Earth was the center of the universe when Galileo insisted that his data showed otherwise.

No leftist language here unless you think that science is on the left.  

The seas are rising at accelerating  rates:
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/03/scientists-track-the-oceans-rise-as-the-globe-warms.ars

The last decade was the hottest on record:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

CO2 operates as a thermostat to control the temperature of Earth.

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/lacis_01/  

Racist crap?  You have me confused with Benny_Hill.

Global Cooling WAS a lie, just like the global warming hoax.  The Global Cooling controversy made the covers of Newsweek and Time (sometime in 1976) and many scientists made a small fortune selling books about it.  James Hansen and The Club of Rome (both now big global warming purveyors) were behind much of the scare about 35 years ago.

Gerald Ford- well, there is at least one.  And, I might also add – Barack Obama.  I know the racist tea party folks will disagree, but they are wrong and un-American anyway so who cares.

Not true.  The democrats did NOT control anything from 2001 until 2007.  The House, the Senate and the presidency all belonged to the REpublicans and did they ever spend like crazy people.  And then,  in 2007 Bush told the democrat congress that if there weren’t offsetting budget cuts, he would “finally” find his Veto pen.  And he did.
So quit blaming the democrats.  The republicans in 2001 came into power with a budget SURPLUS.

Nixon began it, but Reagan solidiied the relationship with Pat Robertson and the Religious Right.

Algore is crazier than chit house rat.

Apparently those republicans who feel they owe more to Grover Norquist than to their consituents argue that getting rid of tax loopholes for corporations is raising taxes. 
It appears to me that we did okay under the taxes that were in place during the Clinton administration, so why not at least put back the taxes for those making over $500,000 (after deductions) that were in force during the Clinton years?

But, I agree that a tax code overhaul would be the best way to do it and by consumption.  That would leave no one not paying their fair share.

One thing we do know is that in 2010 the pay of the CEO’s of the top 200 largest companies was $10.8 Million – a 23% increase from 2009.  Median pay last year for 100 million full-time wages and salaried workers was $752 a week or about $39,000 a year according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.  And yet, a secretary will pay a higher percentage of his/her salary to the IRS than the hedge fund manager on Wall Street who now makes millions – thanks to that secretary and the other millions of America’s middle class who had to bail out the banks.

Zehr gut. Bitte schon.

Zehr gut. Bitte schon.

And you give a blog as a reputable link?

You wrote on falsified data,  distortions, tricks of leftists.  Are you capable of writing of specific data supporting your views, opinions?   IOW can you name your sources?

That is the problem with Repubicans.  They are just full of hate and name-calling.  That is what has divided our country.  they go to church and wear their religion on their sleeve, but Christians they are NOT.,

Give up; this guy is a reactionary ideologue. Facts backfire with his ilk:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/07/11/how_facts_backfire/

If he have to deal with reality instead of his beliefs, it would cause cognitive dissonance. It would mean, among other things, that his hero, Glenn Beck, is full of crap, something all rational adults figured out long ago.

Sorry, I’ve seen all Those. I don’t see anything that proves that MMGW is responsible in those links.

Got anything else? NASA data has been proven to be notoriously incorrect.

http://www.geotimes.org/aug07/article.html?id=WebExtra081607_2.html

I don’t see any proof that MMGW is more than a theory in anything you have posted. I’m looking for irrefutable facts. You have not shown any. As a matter of fact Goddard has admitted to collecting false DATA.

“TMP”

Uncertain on comparing  climate change skeptics to racists.  I think that’s comparing apples and oranges.  Certainly racism , ie bigotry, predjudice is wrong.  But bad or lousy science is not the same as being racist.  That being said each are equally pigheaded.  If Al Gore meant racists deny the fact that races are equal to the fact that climate change skeptics deny climate change than I can see the comparison.

It seems Gore is no longer emphasizing man made global warming. Instead he is
against climate change. Well climate change has been going on forever. It will
continue even if the sex poodle gives up his private jet in favor of commercial
flights.

“Not Found
Ooops! Whatever you were looking for isn’t here.”

That’s your “bombshell”???? A dead link, probably not unlike the one in your pants.

Weak, limp and impotent just like many of your accusations, protestations, and pronouncements.
Better yell at you momma to bring you another cookie down there in your basement lair. drooling on your keyboard, and making another stain somewhere, skidmark.

No confusion – you are not half the man Benny is.

The climate has morals? Too bad you have none. Maybe you should drop over to the climate’s house and borrow a cup of morals, and while you are at it a pound of humility wouldn’t hurt you either.

It scares me to say this, but, I agree with you on that.

What makes you think he didn’t continue his association with racism?

From 2007 to 2010, Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.  Bush and the Republicans certainly spent way too much, and left with the national debt at approx. $9,414,780,866,691.06.  But now in 2 1/2 years, Obama has doubled the spending, and today the National Debt is:

People that believe Gore probably stocked up when the clock turned 2000!  All I can think when I see him, is massage.  Ew!

Agreed.

Again you need to go back and study this. There was a consensus in the late 1800′s about recurring ice ages, and that there would continue to be that pattern into the future. Read a book instead of the internet once in a while.

I suppose that 135 years of serious study on the matter of recurring ice ages does not compute for you… I heard about this in earth science class in 8th grade – that was the 1960′s.

Sure, it´s a complex thing and hard to nail it down for each and every incident. Interesting article on the subject:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/19/somalia-famine-climate-change-global-warming_n_930935.html

If you can come up with let´s say half a dozen scientific publication of scientific organizations from around the world from that time that issued ice age was knocking at the door, get back to me.

Newsweek or Time aren´t exactly peer reviewed scientific publications. ya know.

Must be a party ‘thang’!!!

You mean, just the idea that we agree on something, is scary?   Other than faceless internet posters we’re both probably real people with a variety of opinions on different subjects. Not that surprising that we might agree on one or two things is it.

For example, I think Jessica Alba is pretty attractive. What do you think?

Again agreed. *the scary bit was sarcasm ON. Sorry that is kind of hard to get a grin through the internet.

That’s cheaper than the cost of non-renewables once peak production is reached.

We’d better prepare now by developing renewable, sustainable energy sources that will help us achieve what 8 presidents have called for: energy independence.  Or are you opposed to Ronald Reagan too?

If your wrong and base policies on your thinking, then we could collapse civilization and eventually doom ourselves to extinction. 

If you’re right, and base policies on Gore’s thinking, then we could attain energy independence, increased national security and develop a massive green jobs economy.

I’ll decide on the path of greater short term expense for better long term security and energy cost controls.

False dilemma Sidestepping Vicky33. This is why you are an idiot!

You sound like Beck now Sidestepping Vicky33. Why are you suddenly in Beck’s camp of doom and gloom, the world is going to end?

This is why you are an idiot!

Is that weird science?  I liked that movie. 
What is the Science that proves Global Warming?  Not too long ago I remember hearing that is was all made up stuff.  Did you miss that one?  Think Chicken Little.

Teddy Kennedy didn’t like having a ‘field’ of wind turbines off the coast of Martha’s Vineyard. Wonder how that’s played out since his death?

And Democrats want everything for free.  It sounds like a balancing act to me.

Have you noticed that the Liberals are the one’s who resort to Name Calling first on site, or any site for that matter.  What’s with that? 

I read it every day. It’s the most read german online news site and weekly news magazine and respected left and right.

They put them in. Strange how Liberals with power abuse their power. Especially the Kennedy’s.

“TMP”

They put them in. Strange how Liberals with power abuse their power. Especially the Kennedy’s.

“TMP”

I *am* German and lived there for more than 30 years of my life. And I can tell you from personal experience that renewable energy is widely supported. The article states the same. Most people are even willing to pay a little more to get off of fossil fuels.

i do agree however that it’s easier for a small country to make the energy shift. Then again, if just a fraction of the money that the US spends on wars and tax cuts would be invested to push renewable energies, it could easily dominate that field. But it doesn’t because the republican branded renewable energy and climate change as something liberal. Pathetic!

Dude, wake up, it’s 2012!

Guten Abend. Ich liebe das Land und haben dort Verwandte. Ich besuche dort recht häufig. Ich habe nicht das gleiche opionion bekommen haben wie Sie. Sorry, aber ich hörte so viele Beschwerden von Menschen aout die Erhöhungen der Steuern, wenn eine weitere resonable approch zur Verfügung steht.

Unsere Meinungen und die Meinungen der Leute die ich kenne in Deutschland unterscheiden. Ich bin nicht so gut mit der deutschen Sprache so entschuldigen Sie eventuelle Fehler. Dialekte unterscheiden sich so sehr aus dem Norden in den Süden. Ich muss mich auf einen Übersetzer angewiesen, um mit meinem Deutsch helfen.

We only have 11% of our energy needs produced by renewable energy sources. That’s a high estimate, in reality it is about 9 %.

Republicans aren’t against renewable energy. That’s a fallacy. It’s too expensive and the country is broke. We are also in an economic downturn that will test the the Nations existence.

We can’t afford the Trillions of dollars that it will take to increase that percentage to a minimum of 20%. The technology isn’t there, the expense is too great and it has proven not to be a job producer.

We can’t afford the non existent economy that Germany now has right now.

We’re in survival mode at 1% growth and green energy isn’t going to help that now will additional taxes to payfor it.

the anti war sentiment is great but it’s just not in the cards. is it. We’re stuck with what we have and we need to focus our energies (pun attended) in a more productive direction right now.

“TMP”

“TMP”

My eyes are wide open!

“TMP”

Hey, Epoxymoron – If we base policies on Al Gore’s thinking we will be back in the 1850′s! He is a half wit, and an elitist egomaniac to boot. Only you would admire that fool. Playing the race card is just like him and I can see why you think the way you do now.

Victor and Al Gore sitting in a tree,
K – I – S – S – I – N – G!

Respected by whom? The Green Party? You can say what you want, I read the original printed version since the 1970′s – my step-mom is from Bavaria. It was well respected back in the day, but it is a far cry from what it once was.

Ok, once again show us the proof. I can’t take anything you say as truth.

Show me where Reagan proposed the development of Renewable Energy at the expense of established energy sources, natural gas, coal, oil or nuclear energy.

I missed that one.

“TMP”

would you like another link
http://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/another-ipcc-prediction-fails

Isn’t Gore’s statement a little like asking some guy how many times he beat his wife last week. If he can’t beat you with scientific fact, he’ll beat you with racist innuendo.

My version of history is not a lie lol. The south turned republican. The
civil rights bill was passed under the democrats who had a majority in
the house,senate, and held the oval office! No southern republicans
voted for the bill period! A higher percentage of both the southern
democrats and northern democrats voted off the bill! These are facts
they are not lies. That did happen NIXON won the south with Wallace on
his tail in 1968. A republican hadn’t won the south in ages up until
Nixon. It didn’t take long my friend and with the exception of Jimmy
Carter in 1976 the south has been in the republicans back pocket ever
since.

Not only is your version of history a lie, it’s evident in you rationalizations that you know your version of history is a lie, and that you’re so wording your sentence to avoid having to admit the validity of
NDanielson’s correct point, that a greater
percentage of Republicans voted for the bill than Democrats.  Take this sentence, for example.

A higher percentage of both the southern
democrats and northern democrats voted off the bill!

This is what’s called ‘fun with statistics.’  It’s more correct, and more representative, to note that, as a party, Republicans voted for CRA by a larger percentage than did Democrats.  In order to come to the statement you have, you’re forced to break the vote up by region so that the relative values given to each is skewed.  That’s how your 21 southern Democrats, 20 of which voted against the act, outweighs by percentage 1 whole southern Republican senator to make it appear as if there was more support in the Democratic party.  Far from that, there was no Republican representation that could avoid statistical irrelevancy by which to judge.  Democrats, by a large margin, represented the south.

Similarly, that huge percentage of Democrat “no” votes, separated again by regionalism, is withdrawn from another percentage total to skew the northern count in favor of Democrats. 

The only salient point that should bear noting is that the CRA, as the Democrat caucus was split, could not possibly have passed without Republican support, and that that support, by a significant margin representative of the north, enabled passage.

This entire line of inquiry was predicated on your assertion…
<How many stayed with the democrats after this vote sir? Do not rewrite history.
As I’ve shown above, every one but 1.  Your assertion in support of your version was specifically disproved.  Democrats voters didn’t flip to Republicans based on their CRA votes.  You’re politicized version of history is a progressive lie.

“lol, no” isn’t a counter argument, nor is a reassertion of a lie.

Bob, i know liberals are never interested in the truth

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/jul/07/bill-white/bill-white-says-rick-perry-threatened-secede/ 

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/apr/22/rick-perry/gov-rick-perry-recaps-his-comment-texas-seceding-u/

Says he said last year there’s “absolutely no reason” for Texas to secede.

Rick Perry on Thursday, April 15th, 2010 in an interview

The space program began under President Eisenhower.  Man lands on the moon under president Nixon.  President Bush refocuses the space program on landing a man back on the moon with the ultimate goal of going to mars.  Obama cancels the return to the moon ending manned space flight for the United states.  http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1004/armstong_obama_hurting_space.html 

Former astronaut Neil Armstrong has issued a strongly worded rebuke
of President Barack Obama, criticizing the president for proposed
revisions to the U.S.’ space program.

Armstrong, along with astronauts James Lovell and Eugene Cernan, called
the proposal “devastating” in a letter obtained by NBC News. Read below
for the full text:

“The United States entered into the challenge of space exploration
under President Eisenhower’s first term, however, it was the Soviet
Union who excelled in those early years,” the letter begins.”Under the
bold vision of Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon, and with the
overwhelming approval of the American people, we rapidly closed the gap
in the final third of the 20th century, and became the world leader in
space exploration. …

“When President Obama recently released his budget for NASA, he
proposed a slight increase in total funding, substantial research and
technology development, an extension of the International Space Station
operation until 2020, long range planning for a new but undefined heavy
lift rocket and significant funding for the development of commercial
access to low earth orbit.

“Although some of these proposals have merit, the accompanying decision
to cancel the Constellation program, its Ares 1 and Ares V rockets, and
the Orion spacecraft, is devastating.

“America’s only path to low Earth orbit and the International Space
Station will now be subject to an agreement with Russia to purchase
space on their Soyuz (at a price of over 50 million dollars per seat
with significant increases expected in the near future)

If you’re really German as you say down below, you know all about how “Europe’s economic power [house]” is good and done floating the failing “green” economies of those other EU nations off the dime of German coal and heavy industry.  Europe is about to come to a shuddering and rattling stop – or, as you’re sure to put it, “progress.”

Your Greens are about to sink your country’s energy independence, BTW, by propagandizing your people into not upgrading your nuc plants.  Enjoy sucking on Russian oil, and Russian [redacted... it's a family board].

yes, the term was obviously used sarcastically to mock the Goracle’s inflated self-opinion and bigotry.

No, the point was to get a greater number of ignorant people to shout down those who have in their possession that quintessentially scientific quality – a critical and questioning mind.

What a maroon-  The president elect is sworn in during the year following his/her election. We will elect a president in 2012 and the winner will be sworn in January 2013.

Am I racist for pointing this out…idiot

If you studied history a bit more, you would understand that the GOP backed LBJ on getting the Civil Rights Act passed through congress.  The southern democrats were blocking it completely and LBJ got backing from an unexpected quarter.  Now who was more likely a racist here?  You leftards have completely destroyed an meaning to the term racist.  You are the party that can’t back arguments with facts, so like the little children you are, you revert to playground taunts about your opponents. 

While you’re at it, another free history lesson.  You proggie nitwits love to call republicans “Nazis” right, its one of you favorite taunts. 

The true name was  Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Translated into english that would be National Socialists German Workers Party, nicknamed Nazi.Now put on your thinking cap and tell us which political party leans heavily into socialist ideology? Oooppps, never let facts get in the way of a good meme, eh?

Victor,
Quick question, what in the world does morals have to do with science?

questioning is one thing. Denial is another.

 Ok dude Im obviously not going to convince you and I truly don’t care. If somehow in your warped mind you think that democrats are more racist than republicans that your opinion. I will leave you with this which you cannot refute. The CIVIL RIGHTS BILL was passed while the democrats had a majority in the house and the senate and held the presidency. You can try and screw with statistics anyway you want. But this is reality. Ive shown you the the south as a whole was racist both democrats and republicans. And you know what? The south is still the most racist part of the country and it is controlled by republicans. You come up with excuses to why 90% of the congressman and senate  who voted against MLK day were republicans but thats what you have excuses. Jesse Helms fought it tooth and nail as did Mccain and many others. You know the history. You know King supported Kennedy and Johnson. 0% and I don’t care how many southern republicans there were 0% all 11 of them voted against the civil rights bill. What makes you think it would have been any different had there been 100 republicans in the south? You are obsessed with re writing history and giving credit to republicans for the civil rights act. But they controlled nothing at the time. They helped I will give you that but they were not the party in power when it passed. And you cant rewrite that. 

You are obsessed with re writing history and giving credit to
republicans for the civil rights act. But they controlled nothing at the
time. They helped I will give you that but they were not the party in
power when it passed. And you cant rewrite that.

I’m not attempting to.  I’m asserting, correctly, in pursuance of other points, that as a congressional minority, their votes were unnecessary for passage (they represented only 41% of the house & had 33 members in a filibusterer proof senate), yet, as it turned out, were indeed critical for passage.

What makes you think it would have been any different
had there been 100 republicans in the south?

Of course, that was nowhere near the case, as has been my point (one of
several).  The Republican south, an insignificant caucus, wasn’t
representative of the party on any level.

You know King supported Kennedy and Johnson.

I know that MLK, Sr was a lifelong republican and supported Richard Nixon in 1960 until Bobby Kennedy used his influence to spring his son from jail, that MLK Jr. has long been rumored to have been a Republican himself and that Jr. and the Kennedy’s were often at loggerheads in the civil rights movement.  I don’t have a comic book recall of history, I credit the whole thing – just not that which are simplistic partisan lies.

Case in point.  No source on the Southern Strategy that credits the authors makes mention of an appeal to southern racism.  They were content to allow Wallace to secure that portion of the vote while they focused on “a foundation of states rights, human rights, small government and a strong national defense” – fiscal conservatives and folks disenchanted with Johnson’s Vietnam policy and the rising counter movement of pacifism within the Democrat coalition.

Again Paleo after all that writing the democrats had control of the house, the senate, and the presidency by wide margins. To sit here and pick apart facts and act as if the republicans are somehow champions of civil rights is pathetic. Do you know how many black republicans there have been in congress in the modern era? 6 out of 106. This is since 1929 thats 5%. In almost 100 years the republicans have been represented by a black man 6 times. And two currently. The democrats have had 100 representative in the congress and the senate. These numbers do not lie on who the republicans represent in this day in age or even during the civil rights era. Im tired of this 

Victor,
Supposing your right (which I highly doubt) how long will it take to replace Coal as a form of Electricity with renewable resources? Coal accounts 44.5% of the electricity production.
(http://205.254.135.24/cneaf/electricity/epa/epa_sum.html )
To much for you? How about replacing Natural Gas? It accounts for 23.3% of electricity
production (Same source).
Still to much to come up with? Try Nuclear, it accounts for 20.2% of Electricity production (Same source). 
Now for renewable sources: Hydroelectric: 6.8%+Other renewable resources 3.6%=10.4% renewable sources.
Where is Al Gore’s or your plan to grow that 10.4% to a level to replace the other 89.6% already being made?
In my county and the adjoining county, they just installed 61 Wind turbines over an 12.5 mile ridge-line. At a cost of $250 MILLION, to generate power for 14,000 homes, about 14 MW. (Laurel Mountain Wind Farm)
A coal power plant is was estimated to cost $2 Billion in 2008, providing 600 MW, or enough power for 600,000 homes. Huh, imagine that Coal power plants cost 10 times as much as a wind farm, takes up less
area, and makes over 40 times the amount of electricity. I wonder why they have been the electricity power source of choice for over a hundred years.

Victor,
Uh…No. It recently cost $250 MILLION to build 61
wind turbines in my county and its neighboring county. (Laurel Mountain Wind
Farm) that will produce 14 MW. That is $17,857,142.86 per MW.
A Coal plant was projected in 2008 to cost $2
Billion for 600 MW or $3,333,333.33 per MW. http://www.synapse-energy.com/…
Those are first year costs. It will take at
least three years for the wind turbines to catch up. The Wind turbines cover
2000 acres, not a very effective use of land.
Looks like those facts are backfiring on you again.

Victor,
Much like you head that link comes back empty.

was al gore’s daddy a racist??/ He and all the southern DEmocrats voted against the civil rights act??

http://www.nature.com/nindia/2011/110131/full/nindia.2011.16.html  
Cosmic ray intensity affects global warming

IPCC’s
future prediction of global warming needs a relook since it does not
take into account the long-term changes in the galactic cosmic ray
intensity, new research says1.

In
order to estimate the realistic contribution of long-term cosmic ray
intensity changes to climate warming, scientists from the Indian Space
Research Organisation (ISRO) have compiled data for the last 150 years.

The older Al the Goracle gets, the fatter he gets, the dumber he gets and the more outrageous claims he makes. A “connection” between global warm… — oh, sorry — climate change and racism? Oh, please, give me a break!

Yo FreeCommon Sense: A LexisNexis search reveals over 300 articles published in scientific journals during the late 60s and seventies supporting a global cooling theory. They argued that we were polluting the planet with “suspended particles” and these particles reflected back sunlight, hence heat back into space, thus cooling the planet. Was it a consensus back then? No, but many scientists believe that cooling was part of the earth’s future. Besides, science wasn’t as politicized back then and wasn’t determined by “consensus.” Here is some reading material for your perusal. I included an abstract with the first citation.

Barrett, E. W., 1971: Depletion of short-wave irradiance
at the ground by particles suspended in the atmosphere.
Sol. Energy, 13, 323–337.

Abstract
Changes in concentration of those atmospheric constituents which contribute to the planetary albedo can give rise to climatic alterations. Suspended particles in the atmosphere contribute to the albedo by virtue of their light-scattering power. This paper presents a mathematical model of the effect of particulate loading on daily totals of irradiance at the ground at various latitudes and seasons, under the assumptions of: (a) Rayleigh scattering by the gaseous constituents of the atmosphere, and (b) Mie scattering by a uniform layer of polydisperse particles having a power-law size-distribution function. These computations show that substantial depletions of irradiance can result from moderate to heavy particulate loadings, and that an increase in man-made particulate emissions by a factor of 50 or more could give rise to a general cooling of serious magnitude.

McCormick, R. A., and J. H. Ludwig, 1967: Climate
modification by atmospheric aerosols. Science, 156,
1358–1359.

Colligan, D., 1973: Brace yourself for another ice age.
Sci. Digest, 73 (2), 57–61.

Bryson, R. A., 1974: A perspective on climatic change.
Science, 184, 753–760.

Douglas, J. H., 1975: Climate changes: Chilling possibilities.
Science News, 107, 138–140.
1334

Kellogg, W. W., 1979: Prediction of a global cooling.
Nature, 280, 615.

Yo Victor:  Green jobs have nearly bankrupted Spain.  Is that what you want for our country?  Basic Fact:  If you have to subsidize it, it ain’t worth it.

That´s actually a very good reply. Thanks.

“climate change: Hello, this happens four times a year, they are called seasons.”

So obvious! Had it been a snake, it would have bit him…and the scientists!!!

Thanks, Professor, for the scholarly evidence!

Hey, Professor!

Obviously, simple economics point to the folly of this Green Energy theory.

I’m still pissed about the Lightbulbs that cost $9.00 a piece, manufactured by GE in China that will last forever but require a hazmat team to clean up if they are broken. Call me old fashioned, but I still like the old incandescent bulbs and coal furnaces.

Global warming (man-made) is more political science than real science. CERN just released new data that confirms the cosmic rays of the sun are the actual cause of climate change, not just on earth but on the other planetary bodies in our solar system. The warming and cooling trends have coincided with our neighbor planet temperatures, yet there are no humans to blame out there. The most dramatic swings on our own planet like the ice age, all happened long before man could be blamed. Since climate change is now a religion, political movement and big business, the scientists who dare challenge the numbers get labeled as heretics or worse. That is not real science, that is propaganda.

Death is official when brain waves cease.  Brain waves of a baby in the womb can be detected at about 2 weeks.  When did your brain waves cease Adler?

Your coal plant contributes to AGW, the windmills do not.  You also do not include the cost of coal. Just the plant. Once built, the windmills “fuel” is free. 

Also, you ignored what you can’t address, that energy costs are going to soar after we reach peak production. The question is how much, and the more energy we can produce, the less the prices will soar.

Tell us Todd why you want to destroy the climate.  That, ultimately is Gore’s moral issue.  

Reagan and every president since has called for energy independence. That — a national security issue that the Pentagon agrees with me about — is what I was referring to.  How that energy was developed, Reagan was, to be sure, a reactionary.

You didn’t present it that way, in fact you were insinuating that Reagan was in favor of today’s push for Green energy in place of hydrocarbon energy.

You claim to be a Journalist but you’re really a person who takes statements out of context and presents them to fit your agenda as was in this case.

It’s what you constantly do and you don’t know how to do anything other than what you do. You have absolutely no credibility with me.

Have you seen the psychiatrist yet?

“TMP”

You can’t take anything I write as truth, but you gladly absorb the lies and ignorant propaganda that Beck spews out day after day.

We call the double standards, and while I’m on the truth, you lie about me almost every day on here. Your panties are so bunched up because I’m exposing your hero/messiah/god/leader as a liar, hypocrite and ignorant propagandist, so you defame me, assassinate my character and bear false witness toward me, just the way Jesus wanted you to. Fact is, even Beck is supposed to be against that, so you and Beck are both hypocrites on this point.

The fracking in the SW and West has poisoned some of the drinking water and scared the terrain.

http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/

And your “fact” is bullshit. We can afford to bring new technologies. We’ll the most wealthy nation on Earth.  Corporations are sitting on $2 trillion in liquid capital right now; we just need to tax it for R & D since they’re not using it to invest in America.

Once again, your keyboard is writing comments that make you out  to be the reactionary dumb ass.

Oh good, Benny the racist Hill is back.

Beck’s doom and gloom is made up, ignorant fear mongering.  Climate change is real. Your lack of ability to distinguish between fake and real is “why you are an idiot.” You make false assumptions about me, which “ is why you are an idiot!”

You point your reactionary finger at me, but Beck is a liar:

http://glennbeckreport.com/glenn-beck-lies/

You refuse to address that because you’re a sycophant and, yes, an idiot.

You are also a racist, and that, too, makes you an idiot.

You act like an immature child, and that makes you an idiot.

YOu think I’m an “idiot” because I’ve also exposed your hero, the ignorant, reactionary propagandist, Glenn Beck, as a hypocrite, another claim that you refuse to address:

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/01/mediaites-bershad-turns-two-blind-eyes.html

That, you master of character assassination, is why you’re an idiot as well.

Next time, try to show a hint of having genuine IQ and address any of lies I linked to or the hypocrisy that I linked to.

You think that acting like an immature a$$hole is a winning strategy, and that, too, makes you come across as an idiot  Actually, critics of Beck would be surprised if you started acting like a decent person.

“The fracking in the SW and West has poisoned some of the drinking water and scared the terrain.”

Well fracturing is used to open the casing on every well that produces oil. This is a very popular lie among the environmentalist crowd, but the strata bearing the oil heretofore inaccessible that fracking is being used for is much deeper than any aquifer. A popular myth but ignorant if you know what you are talking about which you do not. Did you also know that in order to frac a  well a string of explosive charges is used to puncture the well casing which is a solid walled concrete liner poured into the well to seal the hole from the surface to the bottom of the hole? Those charges are only placed where the oil is and the fracking process forces WATER into the newly punctured casing and out in to the oil bearing rock to pressurize the well, and upon the completion of that the oil is able to fill the casing and be pumped out of the well. You don’t know a damned thing about the process yet you feel your uninformed opinion is adequate to challenge known geological science? You just don’t know who to fight with or when to do it.

“Scared terrain”? Really? Well why don’t you and some of your equally stupid friends go there and comfort that  frightened landscape? 

I’ll say one thing Victor Tinfanny, you sure are consistent – consistently wrong about so many things.

His math is off. I counted five presidents back to Reagan, you don’t get to eight until LBJ.

So much for his “fact”.

That’s it – shoot him down with numbers! The cost/unit of production thing always shows that this argument doesn’t hold water.

Are you going all the way back to LBJ? That’s eight presidents.

Again Paleo after all that writing the democrats had control of the
house, the senate, and the presidency by wide margins. To sit here and
pick apart facts and act as if the republicans are somehow champions of
civil rights is pathetic. Do you know how many black republicans there
have been in congress in the modern era? 6 out of 106. This is since
1929 thats 5%. In almost 100 years the republicans have been represented
by a black man 6 times. And two currently. The democrats have had 100
representative in the congress and the senate. These numbers do not lie
on who the republicans represent in this day in age or even during the
civil rights era. Im tired of this

One thing is not the other – the Republicans can’t help that Dems in the modern era pander to blacks more than Republican do – they’re only responsible to themselves.  Republicans offered blacks prosperity under their philosophy of small, business friendly government and haven’t altered the message in order to play identity politics.  The Democrats offered them (as well as anyone else who signs up) addiction to handout and dependence on government programs – promising their 40 arcres and a mule.  de tocqeville always wins the future if a party is willing to give away the store for power.  Only they don’t tell the recipients the 40 acres are barren desert and the mule is lame.

As to why blacks previous to the mid 60s were better represented in the Democratic party (even then, only by a handful – 6 pre 1964 CRA house members) is the result of several factors, not the least of which was that their communities were poor districts in Democratically controlled cities in love with New Deal politics – and that the route to power was through local party machinery.  It was never about race.

But to label the Republican’s 80% support of 60s civil rights pathetic?  The support which made passage of the CRA possible?  Whatever, dude.  What I’m picking apart is the lying narrative the progressives have constructed over the last several decades in order to secure a voting block which results in attitudes such as you hold.  The Republican party is not and never has been racist, though racists have been and are a part of it.  The Democratic party is not racist but distinctly has been, and racists have been and are still a part of it.  Yet they get away with pointing fingers at the other guy.  You go away unconvinced, but then understand I haven’t only been talking to you (only at this point I might be).

 Again you are the one who has answers for all of the statistics. But I don’t have to defend. 90% republicans voted against MLK day. 100 african americans to 6 in congress, and arguably the biggest piece of legislation passed in the second half of the 20th century,passed by a government controlled by democrats. And the republicans win the south in 1968 4 years after the civil rights legislation is passed. You have reasons and excuses for all of these actions,but the republican track record speaks for itself. I would never say that there are no racist in the democratic party that would be foolish. If you cannot see a pattern here im not sure why you cant. But regardless of who you think is racist or who I think is racist the blacks in this country have made their choice on who THEY think represents them in the best way. You may disagree with this,the same way i would disagree that a republican represents some poor white guy living in a trailer with a confederate flag for drapes. But that poor white guy is convinced that the republicans have his best interest in mind. Its his decision to make. If he wants to vote on abortion rights and gun rights that his choice. If an african american wants to vote for a democrat based on how HE perceives the republicans are thats his choice. And they have made it. No matter what you think about how the democrats and only the democrats have kept them in poverty and dependent, they are not willing to try the other route. And I respect that.

Again you are the one who has answers for all of the statistics. But I don’t have to defend. 90% republicans voted against MLK day. 100 african americans to 6 in congress, and arguably the biggest piece of legislation passed in the second half of the 20th century,passed by a government controlled by democrats. And the republicans win the south in 1968 4 years after the civil rights legislation is passed. You have reasons and excuses for all of these actions,but the republican track record speaks for itself. I would never say that there are no racist in the democratic party that would be foolish. If you cannot see a pattern here im not sure why you cant. But regardless of who you think is racist or who I think is racist the blacks in this country have made their choice on who THEY think represents them in the best way. You may disagree with this,the same way i would disagree that a republican represents some poor white guy living in a trailer with a confederate flag for drapes. But that poor white guy is convinced that the republicans have his best interest in mind. Its his decision to make. If he wants to vote on abortion rights and gun rights that his choice. If an african american wants to vote for a democrat based on how HE perceives the republicans are thats his choice. And they have made it. No matter what you think about how the democrats and only the democrats have kept them in poverty and dependent, they are not willing to try the other route. And I respect that.

You find it surprising Nixon won in ’68 and assign some special, racial significance to that, ignoring that Eisenhower won in ’52 and ’56 with some of those same states (and that Nixon also pulled southern states in ’60), oblivious to anything else that election might have also been about – most specifically Vietnam and the direction the country had been heading in under Democratic leadership.  Once more, Nixon won with 3 million votes less than he lost with in 1960 – only the Democrats received far less as well.  Every history of the period will tell you that the country’s political culture was imploding over the subject of the war.  These are facts, not excuses.  Yet for all this, you see only race.

I’m specific on the matter of Nixon, and not Republican”s”, as you say, as I’ve already proved what you believe never happened, as least in regards to the Senate.  The crack of the Deep South’s New Deal majority in the house is represented from 88th (1963-1965) to 90th congresses (+87, 77 & 63 respectively)* – a change which happened before the supposedly nefarious “Southern Strategy.”  From the 91st (Nixon’s victory) to the 96th (+59 & 58) relative changeover was flat.  A grand total of 4 seat were gained in ’68.  Republicans didn’t start taking significant numbers of southern seats away from Democrats again until the 97th congress of 1981-83 (even then, the figure was merely reduced to +30).  Republican majorities in the south didn’t come about until the 104th congress with the 1994 Republican Revolution (from +32 in the 103rd to 4 more Rs than Ds after 4 party switches) – a full 30 years after the 1964 CRA.  What occasioned such a large switch?  A scandal in the house postal office (and the south’s rejection of the liberal policies of their favorite son, Bill Clinton).

*ratio expressed as the number of Democratic representatives in excess of their Republican counterparts (to account for relative changes in congressional apportionment)

You’re were suggesting patterns earlier.  Notice one above?  Here it is: The elections of southern Democratic presidents occasion gains for Republicans as the south wearies of the eastern establishment liberalism those president favor.  That’s the actual track record.  More things go on in this country than your perceptions of racial politics.  If blacks care to stick with such failure in the future, it’s not going to be for the fact their adherence to progressive lies went unchallenged (by me, anyway).

Any time a thinking person is confronted with data that conflicts with their preconceived notions, one expects another to experience some level of epiphany.  I’ve accomplished this at least in regards to your assertion that the congress flipped Republican based on the CRA of 1964.  You can recognize it or stick to your talking points.  Nobody’s invested in this thread any longer anyhow.

Victor,
You moron, you cannot build enough windmills to make enough electricity to support the 312 MILLION people in the United States. The blades on this wind farm are 70 feet long Victor, meaning they have to be at least 141 feet apart. 
The electricity cost 10 times as much to produce. Who is going to buy that electricity? Al Gore and George Soros? Certainly not you or I, as the numbers will shortly show.
Coal accounts for only 20% of all GHG emmissions. http://www.pewclimate.org/global-warming-basics/coalfacts.cfm
“Coal is inherently higher-polluting and more carbon-intensive than other energy alternatives. However, coal is so inexpensive that one can spend quite a bit on pollution control and still maintain coal’s competitive position.” (Same source)
Why is this true? “Coal can provide usable energy at a cost of between $1 and $2 per MMBtu compared to $6 to $12 per MMBtu for oil and natural gas, and coal prices are relatively stable.” (Same source.) That is $1-$2 per Million British Thermal Units.  3412 Btus= 1 kWh. 1 MMBtu= 293.08 kWh. 
Where does Wind generated electricity get to be so cheap?  ” The fact that very high profits due to generous tax breaks and subsidies for “wind farms” – not claimed environmental benefits — are probably the principal motivation for investments now being made in “wind farms.” Often, “green washing” will be part of the motivation.” http://www.mnforsustain.org/windpower_schleede_costs_of_electricity.htm#A. True Cost of Electricity from Wind 
“Finally, EIA provides estimates for adding transmission capacity to serve “wind farms, which include data for situations requiring transmission in the 0-5 mile range ($8.74 to $15.23 per kW, depending on region), 5-10 mile range ($26.23 to $45.70 per kW), 10-20 mile range ($52.47 to $91.40 per kW) all in 2001$.” (Same source).
How will the current economy handle the fact that it is costing pennies now for a kWh as compared to $8.74-$91.40 per kW? 
Where did I ever say that I wanted to destroy the climate? Why do you have to ask such deceitful questions? Morals have no place in science, if they did the world would still be like your forehead, flat.

On one hand you say “People don’t like scientific information,… “, then “many people refuse to accept the overwhelming scientific evidence….”
And then shoot yourself in the foot with:
“I don’t have any data to back up this suspicion, but I suspect that….”
MMGW (or AGW)or the Goracle of Doom is theory, it is postulated by those with an agenda who know the end result they want and figured out how to get from here to there, science and fact be damned, by massaging data, excluding data, rewriting modeling programs etc..

I want to see Al figure out what to do about the fact that 39 billion gallons of diesel per year – 19% of our overall fuel consumption – runs the tractor-trailers that move the goods in this country.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2008/1101-diesel_guzzler__money_saver.htm

…..and then the wind stops blowing….

We are importing turbines from China and Germany. How will green jobs develop here? They won’t because it’s cheaper to import!.

Don’t you know, he is Victriloquist the Hut! He can talk out of both sides of his mouth at the same time! As you have PROVED, he also lies and ‘falsifies’ his ‘record’ of comments. He backpedals faster than a circus clown on a unicycle! He definitely has that carnival sideshow act down pat.

Now that was funny !….LMAO

The vast majority of climate scientists could not disagree with you more. You are writing propaganda for the fossil fuel industry, politicizing what is a physics problem.  This is explained here:

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Politics-Overtaking-Science-in-Global-Warming-Debate-128803748.htmlI'm no scientist, but I can tell you what one flaw in your thinking is.  If cosmic rays from the sun cause climate change on other planets but not the Earth, it is because we have the greenhouse effect that protects us from those changes.  It is the very greenhouse effect that humans are modifying. This is not political; this is physics.Your idea that the climate has changed over the many millennia is correct, but just as humans would scramble to prevent a huge asteroid from destroying human like as it did the dinosaurs, so too can humans now, with enough cooperation, effort and expense, counter the changes in the greenhouse that we and nature are causing to keep life sustainable. We have already done this with the chemicals that were destroying the ozone, and we can address the levels of carbon that are causing the greenhouse effect to overheat the planet. We control the atmosphere now; it’s just a matter of letting that control destroy us or if we can radically transform the oil age into an age of green, sustainable energy. 97% of all climate scientists agree: we are experiencing anthropomorphic global warming and systemic climate change.  We can slow, stop and reverse these changes. We have to.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change  

“We control the atmosphere now”? I think you just illustrated one of my points. It’s now a faith to some rather than an ongoing scientific theory and research.

I was merely introducing another credible scientific study that lays out another possible cause of climate change and it’s shot down before it’s even read. The European Organization for Nuclear Research (Cern) is a highly respected research group.http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/Home/Archive/Cern_study_gives_insight_into_cloud_formation.html?cid=30994792

Even Michael Crichton didn’t think the math supported man-made global warming. He was certainly smarter than Al Gore when it comes to science.

97% of the climate scientists know you’re wrong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

VICTOR TIFFANY,
What part am I wrong about…Al Gore getting massages…or Global Warming?
Delores Smith

Obama “can’t even win with a supermajority”…. I’m not sure what a supermajority is or what that means, but Bush won without even a simple majority.
 

You’ve been proved wrong by several people here. Why do you continue to make an ass of yourself repeating the same stupid comments and lies?

97% of the people who comment on these forums know YOU are wrong.

Victor, what an ugly thing to say. I abhor
ugliness… does this mean we’re not friends anymore? You know, Victor, if I
thought you weren’t my friend, I just don’t think I could bear it.
There. Now we can be friends again.Substantiate your figures if you can – otherwise it’s just another damned lie.

When it comes to Global Warming, Wikipedia is not a very objective site for your information. It’s all written by people from the IPCC. It’s totally bias.

“TMP”

You are completely and utterly wrong. After Sesame Street did you pay attention in class?

You lie.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GISSTemperature/giss_temperature2.php

“TMP”

Victor Tiffany 1 day ago in reply to Todd Scheller

“Your coal plant contributes to AGW, the windmills do not.  You
also do not include the cost of coal. Just the plant. Once built, the
windmills “fuel” is free.”******************************************************************************************************************************Modern coal fired power plants produce almost no carbon because they all use EPA mandated devices to eliminate the combustion residue which act like the catalytic converter in your car. Compared to unprocessed waste from an old technology coal burning plant they produce a practically negligible carbon load.Natural gas fired power plants are commonplace and they produce almost no atmospheric effects. Name one mechanical device that is maintenance free. Have you ever seen a wind turbine up close? The thing that liberals won’t tell you is they make a lot of racket, kill birds, and cost not only for initial purchase but also need expensive inspections and maintenance on a regular basis. Most of the commercial-scale turbines installed today are 2 Megawatts in size and cost roughly $3.5 Million installed – for one.******************************************************************************************************************************”Also, you ignored what you can’t
address, that energy costs are going to soar after we reach peak
production. The question is how much, and the more energy we can
produce, the less the prices will soar.”*****************************************************************************************************************************Why are costs going to soar? If your green alternative production is so much better than conventional power production technology why will it cost so much? There is no question about how much consumer prices for energy will rise, because Obama, Gore and company let the cat out of the bag with the Cap and Tax scheme that they created with the express intention of making even conservative energy use unaffordable by the average American household. The scheme is to tax energy production to the point that the current technology sources won’t be able to stay in business – but in an attempt to stay in business the offset of these exhorbitant and unwarranted taxes will be passed on to consumers in their mailboxes every month until the power companies go bankrupt because the people getting the bills cannot afford to pay them. ******************************************************************************************************************************”Tell us Todd why you want to destroy the climate.  That, ultimately is Gore’s moral issue.”*******************************************************************************************************************************This is just like a drama queen – can’t make a logical point so dream up the most far-fetched question you can throw at your opponent in a desperate attempt to make him look bad and an even more desperate attempt at regaining a lead that you never had in the first place. Gore has no standing on moral issues – he threw that out the window with his fallacious movie. Saying he as moral standing is like saying Michael Moore has morals – only in your bizarro world.Tell us Victor when did you stop beating your wife and molesting children in your neighborhood? See how it works, Victor? Another prime example of why you are wrong, never prove anything, and always lie.

Victor,
 Seriously, wikipedia is the best source you can find? Come on act like an educated man. 
Those climate scientist cannot even agree on what gas it is that is causing global warming. H2O, CO2, or CH4, that is Water, Carbon
Dioxide, and Methane for those of you that hold Masters of Arts degrees. So let me get this right, two thirds of the earth is covered by water, every animal exhales Carbon Dioxide, and excretes Methane.  

Did you mention that during a January 2008 campaign talk, Barack Obama said: “Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” Some media continue to run that now-famous clip. Part of that hope-y, change-y thing BO warned us he’d do. I know Victorrhea swears the sun rises and will never set on BO, so why won’t he (Victorrhea) take BO at his word?

I don’t know about your school, but I heard that most do not hold wikipedia as a credible source. Nor is it permitted to cite wikipedia in any scholarly/academic works.

The University where I earned both of my degrees did not allow its use. 

LMAO wikipedia again? Learn how to do real research Victor.

Victor,
You sir are an idiot. 
Fracking or Hydraulic fracturing takes place nearly a mile below ground the shallowest possible depth, it can go as deep as nearly four miles. So my question is how does something that happens 1-4 miles below the surface scar the terrain, the exposed surface of the earth?    
Can you provide a ground water source that has been contaminated by Fracking, as the EPA has ZERO reports of this happening and the technology has been used for four decades.

Victor,
You sir are an idiot. 
Fracking or Hydraulic fracturing takes place nearly a mile below ground the shallowest possible depth, it can go as deep as nearly four miles. So my question is how does something that happens 1-4 miles below the surface scar the terrain, the exposed surface of the earth?    
Can you provide a ground water source that has been contaminated by Fracking, as the EPA has ZERO reports of this happening and the technology has been used for four decades.

It didn’t exist when I went to school. My kids weren’t allowed to use it in their schools, either.

September 23, 2007 interesting bit:
Global Warmer Hoaxer James Hansen Once Pushed Global Cooling

NASA bureaucrat James Hansen, who has been making a pretty penny by helping Al Gore prop up the global warming hoax, is a veteran of the global cooling hoax popular in the 1970s.

Investor’s Business Daily reports that a 1971 Washington Post scare piece entitled “U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming” fretted that burning fossil fuels discharges particles into the atmosphere that reflect the sun’s rays back into space. Emissions over 5–10 years supposedly “could be sufficient to trigger an ice age.”

The NASA research behind this hysteria was supported by a “computer program developed by Dr. James Hansen,” the same guy who now refers to those who won’t drink the global warming Kool-Aid as “court jesters.”

IBD comments:

It’s clear that Hansen is as much a political animal as he is a scientist. Did he switch from one approaching cataclysm to another because he thought it would be easier to sell to the public? Was it a career advancement move or an honest change of heart on science, based on empirical evidence?

If Hansen wants to change positions again, the time is now. With NASA having recently revised historical temperature data that Hansen himself compiled, the door has been opened for him to embrace the ice age projections of the early 1970s.

Could be he’s feeling a little chill in the air again.

September 23, 2007 interesting bit:
Global Warmer Hoaxer James Hansen Once Pushed Global Cooling

NASA bureaucrat James Hansen, who has been making a pretty penny by helping Al Gore prop up the global warming hoax, is a veteran of the global cooling hoax popular in the 1970s.

Investor’s Business Daily reports that a 1971 Washington Post scare piece entitled “U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming” fretted that burning fossil fuels discharges particles into the atmosphere that reflect the sun’s rays back into space. Emissions over 5–10 years supposedly “could be sufficient to trigger an ice age.”

The NASA research behind this hysteria was supported by a “computer program developed by Dr. James Hansen,” the same guy who now refers to those who won’t drink the global warming Kool-Aid as “court jesters.”

IBD comments:

It’s clear that Hansen is as much a political animal as he is a scientist. Did he switch from one approaching cataclysm to another because he thought it would be easier to sell to the public? Was it a career advancement move or an honest change of heart on science, based on empirical evidence?

If Hansen wants to change positions again, the time is now. With NASA having recently revised historical temperature data that Hansen himself compiled, the door has been opened for him to embrace the ice age projections of the early 1970s.

Could be he’s feeling a little chill in the air again.

Forget what the reactionaries and tool of the fossil fuel industry are spewing on this comment sention: get the facts about what we’re dealing with:

http://www.truth-out.org/truthout-interview-bill-mckibben/1314803404

At the end of the day, we’re either going to keep this planet sustainable for human life or not. The choice is green (live) or brown (death). That’s not too much of an oversimplification.

Like Al Gore you don’t know a damned thing about the power and fuel industries and you put that on display everytime you venture forth in your quest to do what ever it is you are doing. You are an emotional liberal hack who calls himself a Republican but you are the only one too stupid that you are a liberal.

What I said is fact, your comment above is propaganda put here for the consumption of liberal luddites who would rather see this world in the dark ages than turn on the lights. Not very progressive of you, is it?

Hypocrisy is your watchword.

People don’t pay attention to this ninny – He has no idea about this subject. He didn’t answer me on a post from two days ago, so in counter to his post just now I am reposting this:

Victor you said this two days ago:

“The fracking in the SW and West has poisoned some of the drinking water and scared the terrain.”

Well
fracturing is used to open the casing on every well that produces oil.
This is a very popular lie among the environmentalist crowd, but the
strata bearing the oil heretofore inaccessible that fracking is being
used for is much deeper than any aquifer. A popular myth but ignorant if
you know what you are talking about, Victor, which you do not. Did you
also know that in order to frac a  well a string of explosive charges is
used to puncture the well casing which is a solid walled concrete liner
poured into the well to seal the hole from the surface to the bottom of
the hole? Those charges are only placed where the oil is and the
fracking process forces WATER into the newly punctured casing and out in
to the oil bearing rock to pressurize the well, and upon the completion
of that the oil is able to fill the casing and be pumped out of the
well. You don’t know a damned thing about the process yet you feel your
uninformed opinion is adequate to challenge known geological science?
You just don’t know who to fight with or when to do it.

“Scared
terrain”? Really? Well why don’t you and some of your equally stupid
friends go there and comfort that  frightened landscape? 

I’ll say one thing Victor Tinfanny, you sure are consistent – consistently wrong about so many things.

Do a little research on a petroleum engineering site or any site not politically aligned with environmentalism and you will see for yourself that I have the facts here and Victor is lying his ass off.

You are a fear mongering left wingnut, just like Al Gore.

Oh, you got me reactionary Beckerhead; I had a typo.

Fact is fracking scars the landscape and has polluted drinking water.

Fact is 97% of climate scientists are behind the science of anthropomorphic global warming:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribution_of_recent_climate_change

Climate change is a physics problem that reactionary elements are denying, and gullible minions, like Beckerheads, are basically lying about to help keep us dependent on foreign oil, diminish our national security and ultimately put the human race at risk.

We can’t afford to let the fossil fools industry win this debate.

Thanks for smearing and misrepresenting me (again).

Fact is, I support nuclear power.  Got any more ways to smear and misrepresent my views?

I’m sure you do.  I’m also sure that you will not apologize for your false claim that I’m a hypocrite.

You have a typical reactionary strategy of insulting the intelligence of those you disagree with, but you’re a Beckerhead. You are standing in front of your glass house throwing stones when you mention anyone’s (lack of) intelligence. 

Fact is, Glenn Beck is a liar. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows this:

http://glennbeckreport.com/glenn-beck-lies/

You are living proof that conservatives have created a fictional reality as described here:

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-do-conservatives-get-pass

Actually, I hope Obama is primaried.

Got any more ignorant comments to make about me?

I’m sure you do, and I’m sure you won’t apologize for your lie about me.

Got a better reference Todd?

I doubt it.

WTF?

You need to stop eating those mushrooms.

Got any more lies?

You got that right, Victorrhea. I don’t lie. I have NOTHING to apologize for.

YOU, on the other hand, DO! Volumes!

Never had any. You DO. You always do.

FACT is, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Never have. Never will. But that doesn’t stop you from running off at the mouth, Victorrhea. Facts don’t get in your way!

Nothing will stop you from making a fool of yourself.
Nothing will stop you from showing your ass and your ignorance.
Nothing will stop you from lying.
Nothing will stop you from repeatedly posting the same hyperbolic garbage.
Nothing will stop you from yourself.

He always has better references.

You doubt because you don’t know.

You don’t know because you don’t do research.

THAT is why you’re an idiot…Vicky33.

97% of the commenters on these forums know you’re wrong!

Fracking is something you know zero about. Have you ever been to an oil or gas well during the process? NO. Did you even know how it is done or why before I said anything about it? NO. Fact is you are just repeating bull crap statements made by left wing nut jobs like you about the subject of petroleum industry operations, and so many other things you puke up in your ignorance. Have you ever looked up fracturing or drilling operations from a professional source? NO. Fact is you don’t want your leftist liberal liar buddies to be proven wrong, and yourself as well. Rage on in your ignorance! We all find it very entertaining.

Fact is you have never offered any evidence that any percentage of climate science is behind anything about anthropomorphic global warming except the part that it is a HOAX. Not one shred of evidence exists to back up you regurgitations, yet you repeat them like a good little zealot. Since you are a supposed Master of Arts in Social Science, you should know that Wiki is a piss poor substitute for real data and the only time I have seen you cite it is right here and right now. Is this how you got past the Masters board, buy citing Wiki sources? I seriously doubt that, and just about everything else you say.

Climate change is inevitable and we humans are powerless to affect it. The sun and cosmic rays do have the power to affect climate change an have since this planet developed an atmosphere. Do you even know what the composition of the atmosphere has been during the epochs that life has been present on this earth? No you don’t. You assume much, believe in fairy stories that crack-pot protesters like you dream up to create falsehoods in the face of reality, and we can’t afford to believe a damn thing you and people like you say.

The fact is you would have the population dependent on candles to lighting their homes while they shiver and freeze to death on cold winter nights because the technologies you dimwits are backing can’t shoulder the load that conventional power and fuels do every day. You are the gullible minion who is lying to promote an agenda of bringing the third world standard of living to the majority of Americans, but you are so stupid that you don’t see that will engulf you as well. Only the wealthy will escape the horrible reality you are pushing Americans toward.

Want to try it out? Here’s how:

Give up your car. That energy consuming conveyance not only costs fuel to operate, but it consumed a good amount of it when it was built before a tire touched the roadway.

Give up all the utilities you now use in your home. You won’t be able to use them without current technology power generation.

Give up your home. It could not have been built without electric power made possible by current technology power generation.

Dig a well and haul your water into the house. Built an outdoor latrine – flush toilets are useless without a water supply.

Give up your job. Without petroleum and current technology power generation no one will be working because industry will cease to function.

Grow a garden and try to live on that – you can’t use fertilizer, steel tools, plastics of any kind because those all require the consumption of petroleum and current technology power generation to be manufactured.

Without all of these things the government will collapse and there goes your social safety net. No government means no money. The entire population is going to feel that hit. You can’t be a rich guy without money that has value.

Without government there will be no defense of you, your home, your family, or your country. The foreign powers that covet America’s resources will swarm in like hornets and take it all. No more America. No more freedom, No more Constitution, nothing.

Until green power is sufficient to carry and maintain the consumption level of this nation – and it hasn’t happened yet, anywhere – we will continue to need to develop petroleum and current technology power generation for some time to come. Unless you want to throw it all away like Victor and his eco-terrorist buddies. You see, they don’t care if you have a comfortable, livable home, or safe and reliable transportation, or a place to work and provide a living for your family, or medicines and hospitals when you need healthcare, or the freedom to live your life as you see fit. They are only interested in turning your world upside down and destroying that which made them possible. The literally bite the hand that fed them, and now they want you to do it too. Most of them don’t contribute to society or the people’s defense, like Victor here – he thinks you have to be drafted to defend his country. Most of them take and consume just like everyone else, but they want you to stop because you are a bad person for doing it. They rationalize it is OK for them to consume because of their higher purpose – that of making us a nation of ignorant peasants living a subsistence life in squalor, while they go on to become the elite class of citizens. The part they won’t see coming is the tsunami like effect of their green power revolution that is being pushed at maximum velocity down our throats, We can’t afford the cost of it, it can’t provide our needed quantities of power to even continue life at this level and it will economically break America.

When supporters of reactionary propagandist Glenn Beck and victims of Fox misinformation believe that they are right and 97% of the world’s climate scientists are wrong, then we live in a dangerous world where ignorance, arrogantly submitted as Beck is wont, will pervert the public interest of not only preventing social/national/civilization collapse, but in the long run human survival. We live in a world where victims of propaganda become functionally insane by embracing denial of scientific fact.

I cannot support Gore’s claim that denialists are like racists, but they certainly are flat Earthers or like the Vatican in Galileo’s time insisting that the Earth is the center of the universe.  Only in this case, real lives and human survival is at stake.

Why? I like grilled portobello mushrooms with a drizzle of balsamic and olive oil.

You can’t challenge me on this subject so you lie even more. Lie harder ding-bat loonie toon.

There is no disputing your hypocrisy, it is a matter of record.

“Got any more ignorant comments to make about me?”

I AM TYPING AS FAST AS I CAN!!!

“Got any more ignorant comments to make about me?”

I AM TYPING AS FAST AS I CAN!!!

Actually the solar wind and cosmic rays are somewhat deflected by the magnetosphere. You know those invisible lines of magnetic force that run in a loop from pole to pole that make up a natural magnetic shield around the planet?

“I’m no scientist,” – that is what I have been saying to you for a long time and now you admit it. Now we can agree on something. Just when I see promise in you actually becoming intelligent you wreck it with this, “97% of all climate scientists agree: we are experiencing anthropomorphic
global warming and systemic climate change.  We can slow, stop and
reverse these changes. We have to.” That is sheer idiocy on your part. You have no evidence to support that 97% figure, and you are completely wrong about humans being able to control the changes in climate. Are you one of those HAARP conspiracy nuts? Human beings would have to be able to reinforce the magnetosphere of this planet to do that. Your understanding of basic 7th grade earth science is freakin’ unbelievable!

Co2 is not a poisonous gas, it is essential for plant life. More Co2 means more plants which means more O2 for animal respiration. Where did this Co2 junk start? Maybe you should read a 7th grade science book and get some insight.

It has also been learned that the ozone layer has holes in it in multiple locations and these occur due to the effects of the sun – you know, that big ball of fire in the sky? The facts are that the sun is the weather engine for the solar system we live in. Solar flares, sunspots, solar wind, coronal mass ejections all of these do more to drive the weather than we puny humans can ever hope to do. The day you learn to control the climate of an entire planet you will be ahead of every climatologist on Earth. At least climatologists admit they only study the climate – you have some nutjob idea that we humans can alter it.

You lose again – how do you like me now?

100% of the people know you are a pathological liar and a hypocrite.

Victor you always say that when your crack supply runs out.

There are two answers to your question:

1.) Why? Did you run out?

2.) No, you lie enough to supply the entire human race well into the 31st century.

Victor,
Yes I do. 
On the fact that Gore and yourself are ignorant. A study on Volcanic impact on the climate.
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/06/30/1104923108.abstract (Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, a peer reviewed journal)
The United States Senate: http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=83947f5d-d84a-4a84-ad5d-6e2d71db52d9
31,468 Scientist in America disagree. http://www.endoftheworld2012.net/20100210%2031000%20Scientist%20disagree.pdf
The Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124597505076157449.html
NASa via Forbes Magazine: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/07/27/new-nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-in-global-warming-alarmism/
Need more?

OOoooohhh, and sometimes sauteed with onions!

You forgot this – and 97% of the people who comment on these forums know he is a big fat LIAR!

Sounds great! Let’s have a party…but don’t invite Vicky. Let him cook his own goose and stew in his juices.

That must be one hell of a list, are you still typing??? LMAO

All he knows to do is parrot the talking points of pretend scientists like Gore whose only knowledge of climate science is that you can fear monger with it and make money.

Not true. A very much smaller % of those less than 3000 hired to do the IPCC agree with Gore, many have jumped ship. A large number of those original scientists were not climate scientists, many had never done or published any studies, had little or no credible credentials for being appointed to the IPCC which was all government paid for and whose goals were determined by governments.
More than 31,000 scientists have signed a petition denying that man is
responsible for global warming. If you can come up with 5 %  of scientists who will back the theory that humans are causing global warming you are doing well.

Sorry to break the news, but liberal bias and reality are diametrically opposed. They are mutually exclusive .

He should eat more mushrooms – they have no calories.

dont you love how the climate alarmists twist when questioned about their false claims? If you climate alarmists were as intelligent as you think you are, you’d welcome criticism. It makes you what you hate in others: closed minded bigots.

thats crap. gore is the flat earther. and he’s also making a ton of money on his crap. 97 per cent is bull. most scientists have big problems with the gore kool aid. youre subverting the truth.

Oh, Sidestepping Vicky33, the science behind climate change changes everyday. It’s not settled, and it’s not proven. In fact, it’s as much a theory as it ever were. Remember, you are trying to sell the idea that the meteorology community who can’t accurately predict rain or sunshine from day to day is supposed to be able to determine that global warming is caused by burning for energy and capitalism overall.

It’s simply not a proven fact Vicky33. Remember when Tom Selleck told us the oceans would be gone in ten years twenty five years ago?

You’re just a nut-job Sidestepping Vicky33. You only believe what suits your view of the world and what is worse, is your are certain.

This is why you are an idiot Vicky and you’re just a parrot in a cage squawking.

This global warming with Al Gore and the rest of the MMGW crowd reminds me of the story of Chicken Little (aka Henny Penny) – “The Sky is Falling”
So Henny Penny, Cocky Locky, Ducky Lucky, Goosey Loosey and Turkey Lurkey all followed Foxy Loxy. He led them to the wood, and up to a dark hole, which was the door to his home. Inside his wife and five hungry children were waiting for him to bring home some dinner.

If Al Gore is Chicken Little, then Obama must be Foxy Loxy.
LOL