I heard this group is part of that Jones character down in FL that keeps threatening to burn the Koran. To me, they are no different than Westboro and I know of NO ONE on my side of the isle that has any use for them. In fact, we outright reject them and their methods.

Oh, the irony.

As bad as this is, at least their not blowing up car bombs or suicide vests in crowded markets and mosques.. It stands to reason that waging war across the planet in the name of Islam is going to have some backlash.

Dronetek said:
As bad as this is, at least their not blowing up car bombs or suicide vests in crowded markets and mosques.. It stands to reason that waging war across the planet in the name of Islam is going to have some backlash.

Right? I mean those kids walking holding their mom’s hand should have known better than waging war across the planet. You sir, are genius. Now go apologize to your mom for your vile post.

“The protesters were at a rally across the street that was there to counter the fundraiser, particularly participation of two speakers; Siraj Wahhaj and Abdel Malik Ali. Warhaj has been accused by a US attorney of being involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, something he denies and was never charged with. Malik Ali has been quoted in the past as saying he supports Hezbollah.”

You stuck this in the middle.

There are lunatics on all sides of the political spectrum. The difference is that the MSM will focus like a laser-beam on certain elements (conservative), while generally ignoring elements they agree with (liberals).

Sean68 said:
“The protesters were at a rally across the street that was there to counter the fundraiser, particularly participation of two speakers; Siraj Wahhaj and Abdel Malik Ali. Warhaj has been accused by a US attorney of being involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, something he denies and was never charged with. Malik Ali has been quoted in the past as saying he supports Hezbollah.” You stuck this in the middle.

By the way, since Americans have such short memories, Hezbollah is responsible for the murders of hundreds of Americans. If a protest crowd shouted down a group of Westboro Baptist Church idiots, would mediaite call that fact disgusting because some of those idiot have children with them?

I just don’t see the problem here. If indeed one of the leaders of the fundraiser is a terrorist sympathizer, as is reported, then the protesters not only have the right, they have the duty to call he and those who would associate with him out for the human slime that they are.

Liberal Tormentor said:
To me, they are no different than Westboro and I know of NO ONE on my side of the isle that has any use for them.

I’m glad you posted in this thread first because now you can see many on your side come along who DO have a use for them.

Liberal Tormentor said:
they are no different than Westboro

But in this case, it’s the muslims who are the westboro people. The head honcho supports Hezbollah, a terrorist organization. I’m sick and tired of muslims getting a free pass just because .. uh.. I’m not sure why they get a free pass.

If a group of Muslims gather in one place, there is a very good chance that one of them is either a terrorist, has ties to terrorism or knows a terrorist. That gives these protesters the right, if not the duty, to scream them down. Hopefully, it’ll shame these Muslims into going back where they came from. Actually, we’d probably prefer them in America, so we can keep better tabs on them.

Hey, that’s STILL better than they are treated by their husbands and fathers. Just sayin

Mr.Papshmer said:
But in this case, it’s the muslims who are the westboro people. The head honcho supports Hezbollah, a terrorist organization. I’m sick and tired of muslims getting a free pass just because .. uh.. I’m not sure why they get a free pass.

They want us to think that all those crazy people are there for the sole reasoning of terrorizing children. Mindless, motiveless malice etc.

Liberal Tormentor said:
I heard this group is part of that Jones character down in FL that keeps threatening to burn the Koran. To me, they are no different than Westboro and I know of NO ONE on my side of the isle that has any use for them. In fact, we outright reject them and their methods.

Thanks for posting this. I have to agree. Sadly many who posted after you are of the same ilk that would terrorize (yes, I said that) little children as if they were somehow complicit in acts of terror against the US.

I thought Fox News hero Frank Gafney was involved in this as well.

Islam is the most dangerous thing on earth.

chatmandu002 said:
Islam is the most dangerous thing on earth.

One of the great evils, according to that crazed retarded tea bagger Richard Dawkins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhYus6TiGEE

Where is “Nationman” to tell Mediaite this isn’t a REAL story since it links to The Blaze?

same2u says:
I thought Fox News hero Frank Gafney was involved in this as well.

Jon Boy left out that part of the Blaze article, so here you go:

Liberal Site Tries to Tie Shocking Muslim-Taunting Video to Respected Conservative

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/liberal-site-tries-to-tie-shocking-muslim-taunting-video-to-respected-conservative/

Mr. Pap says:
But in this case, it’s the muslims who are the westboro people. The head honcho supports Hezbollah, a terrorist organization. I’m sick and tired of muslims getting a free pass just because .. uh.. I’m not sure why they get a free pass.

Point taken. If the Muslims there are supporting terrorism, they deserve to be protested. I prefer the people not be hateful about it. That’s just stopping to their level. I’m all for respectful protest. Sadly, you are correct, that there are many free passes given if you are a Muslim.

Which UNION are they in?

Because we damn well can’t tell the difference between what’s going here, and at the orchestrated Union Thuggery get-togethers!
Did this group go to the homes of these Muslim worshippers and threaten their children, like the SEIU did to CEO’s in Conn.?

Now let’s see the amount of media coverage on this isolated incident, compared to the myriad acts of violence and intimidation reported at the union uprisings.

Jon,
I’ll make the same point to you as I made to Alex yesterday. You give yourself away when you choose to editorialize on certain pieces and not for others. I went back to the piece you wrote that BillO reported on and you don’t seem to find any of the instances of hate and violent rhetoric “disgusting” as you do here. Just an observation. Perhaps you think that people don’t notice.

Norbit says:

Now let’s see the amount of media coverage on this isolated incident, compared to the myriad acts of violence and intimidation reported at the union uprisings.

Exactly! There were several videos of liberal thugs from the last week that the liberal media flat out ignored, per usual. But they will ride this pony for a month, count on it!

The phenomenon here is an aspect of the us vs. them mentality. It’s why the left (i.e. the mainstream media) downplays the bad behavior of its side and emphasizeds the bad behavior of those on the right.

The left likes to think it’s only the right that thinks like this. When someone on their side does something bad; it’s idiosyncratic; but when someone on the right side does it, then it’s just typical!

And of course this can be reversed. Everyone should recognize the truth of this.

chatmandu002 said:
Islam is the most dangerous thing on earth.

Nope!

That would be zombies..

The fringe right wing in this country (which is really almost all of them now) are in their heart terrorists. This is an act of terrorism, breaks my heart.

Color me Ignorant, you’re an idiot. Plain and simple.

If you lay down with dogs you get fleas. If a Muslim “Community Center” wants to invite radicals with terrorist ties to speak then they should be willing to suffer the consequences. Until the allegedly peaceful majority of Muslims begin to take responsibility for the murderous radicals within their ranks things will only grow more tense.

You beckerheads are scrambling again….just admit it and make right with God….youre the most vile digusting racist no good lowdown dirty kkk loving crossburnin SOBs on the planet…..get used to it

Barack, is that you? Or maybe it’s Michelle.

Color Me Badd said:
The fringe right wing in this country (which is really almost all of them now) are in their heart terrorists. This is an act of terrorism, breaks my heart.

This is dusgusting, just as those anti-war protestors from the Westburo church. However, are you seriously comparing this to 9/11 or a suicide bombing?

LIberty, anyone who disagrees with them is a terrorist in their mind. That;’s just how they roll!

What a big surprise. The resident teabaggers defending their own miscreants for bad behavior. Of course the bad behavior is “justified” when THEY do it. Hey Liberal Tormentor, do you know how foolish it looks you questioning Jon’s objectivity while linking to a BIASED and PARTISAN site?

Note that not one of these left-wing postsers has so much as a cross word for hezbollah and its supporters. Meanwhile, I know what OC Repub’s are like–having lived in Yorba Linda and the larger Orange County for years–and I’ll bet half of that crowd has children serving in harm’s way in the US military.

This is strict enemey-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend domestic ideological politics. Even if that enemy murders US marines by the hundred.

Hey Gaskey JON linked to the Blaze, moron!

More Tea Party racism on display. History will not be kind to the TP.

the response to this vid from you racist assholes is typical and used wayyyy too much….you act like 3rd graders with crap like “he hit me 1st” or “they do it too”"…..its time for you punks to MAN UP hold true to your beliefs, stop denyng shit…do me a favor and wear your pointy hat and your sheet when you come at me….dont think your lies will help….admitt it….youre going nutts because Obama has taken away your White House and now you the claim to be the slaves….well thats life deal with it

For some reason, I just don’t feel any sympathy. Islam is a terrible religion, and they have been killing people all over the world. American muslims and organizations like CAIR always claim islam is a peaceful religion, and we all know that is not true.

I can’t summon any sympathy for them at all…none.

You know the expression “two sides of the same coin”? The name “American Taliban” springs from the same concept..

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ProObamaAgenda, if you have ANY statistics to prove that there are more racists on the right than on the left, feel free to post them. Otherwise, SHUTEY!

Liberal Tormentor said:
Barack, is that you? Or maybe it’s Michelle.

I like how there was a glimmer of sense in your first post but you then decided to join the disgusting bigotry when you realized you had adequate cover for it.

You have no conviction for good or what is right, it was just something you thought you had to say until you realized the wind wasn’t blowing that way and you could abandon your phony pretenses.

You know what’s really sad, you libs are more upset about this than you are about the act of terrorism that killed some of our bravest by a muslim terrorist, a couple days ago. Now in your defense, the liberal media pretty muched ignored that story so maybe you didn’t hear about it. Heck, BO can’t even bring himself to call it an act of terrorism. The priorities of you libs are so out of whack.

Liberal Tormentor said:
You know what’s really sad, you libs are more upset about this than you are about the act of terrorism that killed some of our bravest by a muslim terrorist,

Ummm…hey idiot, you were REALLY UPSET ABOUT IT an hour ago yourself?

Remember?

Do I need to quote you?

Hmmmm?

____________________________________________
Day 24 since Henny Glenny was struck by an overwhelming feeling that Egypt is the beginning of a growing evil that is going to spread a global Muslim caliphate and with the help of the communists and progressives create a New World Order ending our way of life as we know it.

This bigotry against Hezbollah supporters must stop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBSE0JndWeo&feature=fvwrel

Why would anyone add a snarky remark about the First Lady? What does she have to do with this? Could it be her “sin” is living in the WH while black? Doesn’t seen like there can be ant other reason for dragging her into it.

Chris Jones said:
If you lay down with dogs you get fleas. If a Muslim “Community Center” wants to invite radicals with terrorist ties to speak then they should be willing to suffer the consequences. Until the allegedly peaceful majority of Muslims begin to take responsibility for the murderous radicals within their ranks things will only grow more tense.

i see the thumbs down on this. i don’t get that. this post is so common sense and yet some don’t agree. why?

Big Friggin Dummy, i stand by my original comment. I’m just sick of you libs trying to paint anyone who disagrees with you as a racist. I mean I know that is the STATED goal of the left, but it’s getting a little tired. You guys really jumped the shark on that one. So unless once and for all, one of you can provide evidence that there are more racists on the right than on the left, you’re nothing but a bunch of lying race baiters.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Why would anyone add a snarky remark about the First Lady? What does she have to do with this? Could it be her “sin” is living in the WH while black? Doesn’t seen like there can be ant other reason for dragging her into it.

No, it’s for saying she’d never been proud of her country until her husband was on the way to becoming president.

ProObamaAgenda said:
You beckerheads are scrambling again….just admit it and make right with God….youre the most vile digusting racist no good lowdown dirty kkk loving crossburnin SOBs on the planet…..get used to it

Now if only you shouted that in chant form and posted it to youtube, your hypocrisy would be complete.

Sean68 said:
The left likes to think it’s only the right that thinks like this. When someone on their side does something bad; it’s idiosyncratic; but when someone on the right side does it, then it’s just typical!

The left has _always_ spewed more hatred toward those who don’t agree with their political philosophy than those on the right, and make no mistake, they know it, it’s part of the plan.

One of the left’s mantra has always been “change”. It doesn’t matter from what to what, in the context of this topic. The point is, when you want to change something, it’s because you don’t like things the way they are, and when things continue to be the way they are despite your protests, you far more likely to become angry about it then the right, the conservatives, who’re trying to “conserve” a way of life. When you’re satisfied, for the most part, with the way things are, it’s just a little tougher to muster up anger about something.

The left knows this, but consult Rules for Radicals, and you’ll see why they constantly try to diminish and insult through any means their political opponents, lying is an accepted strategy with the left, they know it, and the rest of the country is finally waking up to it.

justanotherconservative said:
i see the thumbs down on this. i don’t get that. this post is so common sense and yet some don’t agree. why?

It’s reflexive. They look at what team they perceive the poster to be on and then click like monkeys.

Ellen,
You are of the opinion that anyone who isn’t a fan of the Obama’s is a racist, like most liberals. You hold this opinion because you are an ignorant race-baiter. Feel free to cling to your unfounded assertions just like we cling to our guns and religion.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Big Friggin Dummy….

I hope you have learned your lesson to never post first in a thread and to wait until Chris Jones and Sean68 tells you what to think.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Hey Gaskey JON linked to the Blaze, moron!

He didn’t read the piece. He looked at the picture, saw the headline, and started typing like a good little lefty should.

Mr.Papshmer said:
The left has _always_ spewed more hatred toward those who don’t agree with their political philosophy than those on the right, and make no mistake, they know it, it’s part of the plan. One of the left’s mantra has always been “change”. It doesn’t matter from what to what, in the context of this topic. The point is, when you want to change something, it’s because you don’t like things the way they are, and when things continue to be the way they are despite your protests, you far more likely to become angry about it then the right, the conservatives, who’re trying to “conserve” a way of life. When you’re satisfied, for the most part, with the way things are, it’s just a little tougher to muster up anger about something. The left knows this, but consult Rules for Radicals, and you’ll see why they constantly try to diminish and insult through any means their political opponents, lying is an accepted strategy with the left, they know it, and the rest of the country is finally waking up to it.

For many on the left, ideological politics has replaced religion. It’s very difficult to get people who are convinced they’re opposing evil to compromise or recognize the basic decency of the opposition. I mean, who opposes goodness (say, Obama) but someone who’s evil (e.g. the tea partiers)? Though, some on the left are charitable and attribute opposition to mere stupidity.

BFD said:
I hope you have learned your lesson to never post first in a thread and to wait until Chris Jones and Sean68 tells you what to think.

And I never get so much as a thank you.

What’s disgusting about it? The Mohammedans would do a lot worst to infidels if given the chance.

Liberal Tormentor said:

You are of the opinion that anyone who isn’t a fan of the Obama’s is a racist, like most liberals. You hold this opinion because you are an ignorant race-baiter. Feel free to cling to your unfounded assertions just like we cling to our guns and religion.

Nah. I hold this opinion because I know racism when I see it.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Nah. I hold this opinion because I know racism when I see it.

That’s true. It’s kind of a fucked up situation. I would join that group to voice my opposition and bring attention to the fact that these people are chummy with enemies and murderers of the US. However, once I saw children, I would want to be a part of a group shouting that them. Though group psychology is a hard thing to turn off and on even if reason demands it be turned off.

Ellen, you obviously don’t know racism when you see it, since I’m not a racist. You, like most libs, are obeying the talking points of your leaders and calling any criticism of The One, racism. The plan is well documented so it doesn’t do you any good to deny it.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Nah. I hold this opinion because I know racism when I see it.

You’re the racist.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Hey Gaskey JON linked to the Blaze, moron!

LOL. My comment was not restricted to THIS thread. You always link to The Blaze and other rightwinger cesspools to attack the objectivity of bloggers on Mediate you miserable, idiotic buffoon.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Barack, is that you? Or maybe it’s Michelle.

Chudi said:
For some reason, I just don’t feel any sympathy. Islam is a terrible religion, and they have been killing people all over the world. American muslims and organizations like CAIR always claim islam is a peaceful religion, and we all know that is not true.

I can’t summon any sympathy for them at all…none.

I have a hunch u are a Muslim.

Yeah, right Gaskey.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Ellen, you obviously don’t know racism when you see it, since I’m not a racist.

Don’t recall saying you were a racist. Can you show me where I did?

This is from Pam Geller’s website? Can any of it be refuted?

SIRAJ WAHHAJ

His interest in Islam, he says, arose shortly after the 1968 assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., which prompted Wahhaj to go “looking for more militancy.”

In the course of that search, Wahhaj became involved with the Nation of Islam and its leader, Louis Farrakhan, under whose influence he converted to Islam in 1969. Aligning himself with Islam’s Sunni sect, Wahhaj studied at Umm al-Qura University in Mecca in 1978. In 1995 Wahhaj was named by U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White as a possible co-conspirator to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. In the summer of 1999, Wahhaj testified as a character witness for convicted terror mastermind Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman. Wahhaj stated, on the record, that he considered it an honor to have had an opportunity to host Abdel-Rahman at his mosque, describing the latter as a “respected scholar … bold … [and] a strong preacher of Islam.” In August and September of 2001, just prior to the 9/11 attacks, Wahhaj was a guest speaker a “Jihad Camp” in Pennsylvania. The camp was organized by Safet Abid Catovic, a leader of the Benevolence International Foundation, a “charity” that would be shut down in November 2002 on charges that it had provided funding for al Qaeda.

AMIR-ABDEL MALIK-ALI

Amir-Abdel Malik-Ali (also known as Abdul Malik Ali and Abd Al-Malik) is a black Imam associated with the Masjid Al Islam mosque in Oakland. A graduate of San Francisco State University and a former Nation of Islam member, he is a frequent guest lecturer at Muslim Student Union and Muslim Students Association events. A passionate supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, he helped organize a July 1999 rally in San Francisco at which Imam Abdul-Alim Musa proudly displayed a cashier’s check made out to “Hamas, Palestine.” Malik-Ali endorses suicide bombings as a legitimate “resistance” tactic: “Palestinian mothers are supporting their children who are suicide bombers, saying, ‘Go honey, go!’ That ain’t suicide; that’s martyrdom.” A fervent admirer of the famed Nation of Islam leader Malcolm X, Malik-Ali is a leader of the As-Sabiqun movement which is inspired by Malcolm’s work and life. He is also part of the Al-Masjid movement which is dedicated to creating an Islamic revolution in the United States. His ultimate goal is to see Islamic law instituted in America, and he refers to those who oppose this objective as “poop-butts.” “From an Islamic movement we graduate to an Islamic revolution,” he says, “then to an Islamic state. . . . We must implement Islam as a totality [in which] Allah controls every place — the home, the classroom, the science lab, the halls of Congress.”

Also among Malik-Ali’s notable quotes and positions are the following:

“The enemies of Islam know that when we come back to power we’re gonna check ’em.”
“Stay conscious and ask Allah to raise the Muslims and give us victory over the disbeliever.”
“When it’s all over, the only one standing is gonna be us [Muslims].”
“Sooner or later, today’s Muslim students will be the parents of Muslim children. And they should be militants.”
“Neo-cons are all Zionist Jews.”
“The wars against Iraq [Gulf War and Operation Iraqi Freedom] were manufactured by the Jews in America to avert attention from the two [Palestinian] Intifadas.”
“You [Jews] made all the mistakes we wanted you to make. You went after [former Georgia congresswoman] Cynthia McKinney. So now black folks don’t like you…. You’re walking into all the traps we want you to walk into. You hijacked American foreign policy.”
“[T]he Israelis were in control of 9-11,” which “was staged to give an excuse to wage war against Muslims around the world.”
Israelis ought to return “to Germany, to Poland, to Russia. The Germans should hook y’all up. You [Israelis] should go back to Germany.”
“In America, you’re mostly fighting with your tongue, but you should also learn how to fight with the sword.”
At the Sixth Annual Muslim Student Association Conference held at UC Berkeley in February 2004, Malik-Ali denounced “the white man, who is the enemy.”
At the Universal Heritage Foundation’s December 2003 Islamic Conference in Florida, he warned moderate American Muslims that their desire to be “liked” was turning them into “‘house slaves’ in
He has described Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a “pretty good guy.”

Liberal Tormentor said:
since I’m not a racist.

That’s the first thing a racist says. Wasn’t it your dumb ass that was trying to say yesterday that most hate groups in the US are not rightwing? Typical teabagger fool.

Ellen Carey Rowe says:
Why would anyone add a snarky remark about the First Lady? What does she have to do with this? Could it be her “sin” is living in the WH while black? Doesn’t seen like there can be ant other reason for dragging her into it.

I rest my case. Stop denying it.

I’ve yet to see any of you libs provide any proof that there are more racists on the right than on the left. If it’s SO obvious, why can’t you provide proof?

Liberal Tormentor said:
Yeah, right Gaskey.

Are you denying it moron?

Gasket says:
Liberal Tormentor said:
since I’m not a racist.

That’s the first thing a racist says.

Gasket, are you a racist?

Liberal Tormentor said:
I’ve yet to see any of you libs provide any proof that there are more racists on the right than on the left. If it’s SO obvious, why can’t you provide proof?

I provided proof in the thread yesterday. Why not go read it dummy.

No you didn’t. I asked for proof that there are more racists on the left than on the right. You provided a list of organizations. That doesn’t prove anything. Let me know if you have actual proof’.

Gasket said:
That’s the first thing a racist says.

Sadly, many racists don’t know they are racists.

The true face of the Tea Party and GOP. This is beautiful. Of course the weak, Jon Stewart loving, “liberal” media will never play this video. This is why I am a liberal.

If you are a liberal or a Muslim, you need to protect yourself from these teabagger, GOP pigs. They are your enemies and they want to kill you. That animal in this video ADMITS THIS OPENLY. Protect yourself from these pigs.

Liberal Tormentor said:
I rest my case. Stop denying it

You rested your case on what? Don’t recall you giving an answer as to why you decided to drag Michelle Obama into this conversation. There is not even a remote connection to her in this article.

Mr.Papshmer said:
The left has _always_ spewed more hatred toward those who don’t agree with their political philosophy than those on the right, and make no mistake, they know it, it’s part of the plan. One of the left’s mantra has always been “change”. It doesn’t matter from what to what, in the context of this topic. The point is, when you want to change something, it’s because you don’t like things the way they are, and when things continue to be the way they are despite your protests, you far more likely to become angry about it then the right, the conservatives, who’re trying to “conserve” a way of life. When you’re satisfied, for the most part, with the way things are, it’s just a little tougher to muster up anger about something. The left knows this, but consult Rules for Radicals, and you’ll see why they constantly try to diminish and insult through any means their political opponents, lying is an accepted strategy with the left, they know it, and the rest of the country is finally waking up to it.

Shut the hell up. The progressive media has BOMBARDED you illiterate teabaggers with evidence of your hatred and violent nature. Typical right wing pig.

James Randal said:
The true face of the Tea Party and GOP. This is beautiful. Of course the weak, Jon Stewart loving, “liberal” media will never play this video. This is why I am a liberal.

Why wouldn’t they?

Liberal Tormentor said:
No you didn’t. I asked for proof that there are more racists on the left than on the right. You provided a list of organizations. That doesn’t prove anything. Let me know if you have actual proof’.

I provided a list of specific hate groups. Their affiliation is well documented. (Use Wikipedia if you want to know more about them) MOST are rightwing. I challenge you to provide me something different. Refusing to accept evidence does not make it disappear. The right is KING when it comes to hate.

David Duke, a former KKK grand wizard being courted by the Teabaggers to run for President next year.

Ellen,
I brought her into the conversation because the comment I was referencing could’ve been made by her, in my opinion. It had nothing to do with me being upset that a black person is in the whitehouse. I honestly don’t think you libs believe most of what comes out of your mouths. You use the cries of racism as a way of keeping the right on the defensive instead of the offensive. You don’t want to talk about the actual issues of the day because they don’t bode well for your side. You’d rather have the focus on silly things like this.

Even though my heart breaks for the children who were tramatized by these teabag filth, I revel in the fact that this is all on tape for the world to see how the teabags and racist act.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Sadly, many racists don’t know they are racists.

Aw, Jesus Christ, don’t you little marionettes realize that that crap doesn’t work anymore? It’s the most overused, stupid word that the left has made meaningless by proclaiming *every* single person who doesn’t agree with them as racist, which is a shame, since there really are real racists out there. I guess we’re going to have to come up with some other name for them now, since the word racist has been re-defined by the left as anyone who’s not a leftist.

Hey Ellen, guess what? I don’t give a shit if you call me racist. In fact, it means I’ve won. :)

btw, here’s the link to what I posted. There’s alot more there about this event if you’re interested in reading about the people who organized and participated in this controversial event. I have no way of knowing if any of it is true, other than spending hours googling, and I’d much rather stay here at Mediaite! If you can prove any of it to be false, feel free to refute any of it.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/02/islamic-supremacists-siraj-wahhaj-and-amir-abdel-malik-ali-to-hold-muslim-brotherhood-linked-fundrai.html

And of course, most Americans disapprove of yelling at and frightening children, which is why CAIR made sure they filmed plenty of children at this event and not the controversial people attending. It also seems to me as though CAIR played with the accompanying sounds by increasing the volume and also repeating some of the chants to accompany the scenes with children in it. CAIR, imo opinion is not a trustworthy institution and has a nefarious background.

Here’s just a small amount of info on CAIR:

Critics of CAIR, including six members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate,[59][83][84] have alleged ties between the CAIR founders and Hamas. The founders, Omar Ahmad and Nihad Awad, had earlier been officers of the Islamic Association of Palestine (IAP), described by a former FBI analyst and Treasury Department intelligence official as “intimately tied to the most senior Hamas leadership.”[85] Both Ahmad and Awad participated in a meeting held in Philadelphia on October 3, 1993, that involved senior leaders of Hamas, the Holy Land Foundation, and the IAP.[86][87][88] Based on electronic surveillance of the meeting, the FBI reported that “the participants went to great length and spent much effort hiding their association with the Islamic Resistance Movement [Hamas].”[89] Participants at the meeting discussed forming a “political organization and public relations” body, “whose Islamic hue is not very conspicuous.”[90]
Critics also point to a July 1994 meeting identifying CAIR as one of the four U.S. organizations comprising the working organizations of the Palestine Committee of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood, the parent organization and supporter of Hamas.[91][92] At a 1994 meeting at Barry University, Awad said that he was “in support of the Hamas movement”. CAIR has responded by noting that Hamas was only designated a terrorist organization in January 1995 and did not commit its first wave of suicide bombings until late 1994, after Awad made the comment.[93][94]
Daniel Pipes and investigative reporter Steven Emerson accuse CAIR of being a front for Hamas, having ties to terrorism, as well as “offering a platform to conspiratorial Israel-bashers.” The Anti-Defamation League and Emerson have also accused CAIR of having a long record of propagating antisemitic propaganda.[95][96][97][98][99] Journalist Jake Tapper criticizes CAIR for refusing to condemn specifically Osama bin Laden and Islamic extremism, but rather making only vague and generic criticisms.[100][page needed]
Furthermore, critics point to a statement made by Omar Ahmad (a joint founder of CAIR) in 1998 in which he said that Muslim American “have a duty to deliver the message of Islam” and that “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant.”[101][102][103] Robert Spencer has argued that Ahmad’s statement is the “same goal that Osama bin Laden has, to Islamize the US.” [104]

Pipes has accused CAIR of demanding that a billboard declaring Osama bin Laden “the sworn enemy” be brought down in 1998 as “offensive to Moslems”, denying bin Laden’s responsibility for the Africa embassy bombings, calling the conviction of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers “a travesty of justice,” calling the conviction of the blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman a “hate crime”, calling the extradition order of suspected Hamas terrorist Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook “anti-Islamic”, calling President Bush’s closing of the Holy Land Foundation for collecting money used to support Hamas “unjust” and “disturbing”, praising and defending convicted murderer H. Rap Brown as well as convicted attempted murderer Adnan Chaudhry, and their LA office head calling Israelis “zionazis”; he also quotes the FBI’s former chief of counterterrorism Steven Pomerantz saying that CAIR “effectively” gives aid to international terrorist groups.[105]
CAIR raised suspicions by raising its annual budget of around $3 million (as of 2007) in part through large donations from people and foundations identified with Arab governments.[106] The article further suggests that because CAIR’s Washington chapter has repeatedly issued controversial statements, it has been difficult “for senior government officials to associate with the group.”[106] Some Muslims criticize CAIR for being overly conservative from a religious standpoint, for example by taking the disputed position that all Moslem women are required to veil their hair.[106]
Neuroscientist and best selling author Sam Harris, noted mainly for his contribution to the New Atheism movement, criticized CAIR by doubting their legitimacy saying CAIR is “an Islamist public relations firm posing as a civil-rights lobby”.[107]
The organization has also been criticized for its lawsuit seeking to overturn Oklahoma State Question 755, a proposition that would prevent Shari’a law in that state. CAIR’s Oklahoma director filed the suit, which he says unfairly targets Muslims and is in violation of the First Amendment.[108][109][110]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_American-Islamic_Relations

Gasket said:
I provided a list of specific hate groups. Their affiliation is well documented. (Use Wikipedia if you want to know more about them) MOST are rightwing. I challenge you to provide me something different. Refusing to accept evidence does not make it disappear. The right is KING when it comes to hate. David Duke, a former KKK grand wizard being courted by the Teabaggers to run for President next year.

Barack Obama is closer to Louis Farrakhan than any of the leading Republican politicians are to David Duke.

Gasket, provide a stat that says more racists are on the right than the left or we can assume the number is pretty much equal. Just because you libs say it, doesn’t make it true.

Now I’m done feeding you trolls for a while. Feel free to provide the evidence, if you find it.

Color Me Badd said:
Even though my heart breaks for the children who were tramatized by these teabag filth, I revel in the fact that this is all on tape for the world to see how the teabags and racist act.

I’m still amazed that there are people who don’t know the difference between racism and bigotry.

Sean68 said:
Why wouldn’t they?

Because the “liberal media” is right-wing propaganda and a myth.

Progressives need to embrace their heritage. These teabagger, GOP pigs will not stop until all of us are dead. We need to embrace our revolutionary roots. We need to start arming ourselves and protecting our communities from right wing pigs. We need to realize that these teabagger, GOP pigs do not want to peacefully co-exist with us. We need to realize that guns belong in the hands of intelligent, fully evolved liberals, in order to protect ourselves from these violent teabagger, GOP lunatics. That is why I never turn my back on a right winger. If you are a liberal living in a red state, please do not be a weak, Jon Stewart liberals. Please stop trying to think that you can get these animals to think logically. Protect yourselves and stay safe.

James Randal said:
Shut the hell up. The progressive media has BOMBARDED you illiterate teabaggers with evidence of your hatred and violent nature. Typical right wing pig.

Wow, internet tough guy with zilch-point-zero of substance to say. Never saw that coming!

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Because the “liberal media” is right-wing propaganda and a myth.

Then why do you cute little libs freak out about Fox News so much? Hmmm?

James Randal said:
Progressives need to embrace their heritage. These teabagger, GOP pigs will not stop until all of us are dead. We need to embrace our revolutionary roots. We need to start arming ourselves and protecting our communities from right wing pigs. We need to realize that these teabagger, GOP pigs do not want to peacefully co-exist with us. We need to realize that guns belong in the hands of intelligent, fully evolved liberals, in order to protect ourselves from these violent teabagger, GOP lunatics. That is why I never turn my back on a right winger. If you are a liberal living in a red state, please do not be a weak, Jon Stewart liberals. Please stop trying to think that you can get these animals to think logically. Protect yourselves and stay safe.

perfect lol, hang out with color me badd, she wants to put people in camps

You libs are this upset because people raised their voices at these folk?

From the ICNA Wikipedia entry
In July 2002 Anwar al-Awlaki, believed to be a senior talent recruiter and motivator for al-Qaeda who had contact with three of the 9/11 hijackers, the Fort Hood shooter, and the Christmas Day bombing suspect (Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab), spoke at a joint ICNA/MAS convention in Baltimore with Siraj Wahhaj.[27]

You sure know how to pick ‘em, libs.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Wow, internet tough guy with zilch-point-zero of substance to say. Never saw that coming!

And interesting choice and usage of the word “pig” which is of course what radical Muslims call Jews and Christians.

Liberal Tormentor said:
I brought her into the conversation because the comment I was referencing could’ve been made by her, in my opinion

So in other words …. it was purly an ad hominem attack on the First Lady. And I was correct in stating it was unrelated to the article and the ensuing discussion. I’ll stick to the topic and thank you for sharing. :)

Mr.Papshmer said:
Hey Ellen, guess what? I don’t give a shit if you call me racist. In fact, it means I’ve won. :)

Whatever gets you through the day dear one. :)

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Because the “liberal media” is right-wing propaganda and a myth.

No, it’s not. It’s just that you’re so far out there on the left that you deem anything to the right of you as conservative. My father was like that too. He used to tell me that the idea of the liberal media was a “smoke screen.”

Well, this is what you get when you have BIll O’Reilly yelling that Muslims caused 9/11.. and acting as if that entire group, no matter who they are, or their previous past.. are terrorists.

Look at the faces of those little kids. How does it feel to hate someone for no reason? Do you feel sick? You should…

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
You rested your case on what?

LOL…michelle is always “resting her case” or putting things “on the record”.

She watches too much Judge Judy.

Sean68 said:
Barack Obama is closer to Louis Farrakhan than any of the leading Republican politicians are to David Duke.

How so? Because they are both black? LOL. The same way Osama Bin Laden is closer to George W. Bush type of association? Really? You do realize that David Duke IS a GOP politician….right?

Liberal Tormentor said:
Gasket, provide a stat that says more racists are on the right than the left or we can assume the number is pretty much equal. Just because you libs say it, doesn’t make it true.

Now I’m done feeding you trolls for a while. Feel free to provide the evidence, if you find it.

Hey, dumbass…you can count right? Get a pen and a paper and go through all the enumerated hate groups I linked to and mark their affiliation. Come up with a number and you will get your answer. Like I said, most hate groups are overwhelmingly RIGHT-leaning. I have given you evidence. You can take a horse to the watering hole but you can not force it to drink.

Oh, let’s not forget Timmay McVeigh — 2nd greatest terrorist attack on US soil and the plethora of abortion doctor murderers you have on your side. Hate is doing well on the right.

“How so? Because they are both black? LOL. The same way Osama Bin Laden is closer to George W. Bush type of association? Really? You do realize that David Duke IS a GOP politician….right?”

It’s cute how you pretend not to know the reason.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Then why do you cute little libs freak out about Fox News so much? Hmmm?

Perhaps it has to do with how much welove and care about our fellow citizens that are being lied to by a harmful, corporate-pimping, propagana machine.

Warhaj has been accused by a US attorney of being involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, something he denies and was never charged with. Malik Ali has been quoted in the past as saying he supports Hezbollah.

That’s pretty thin gruel, isn’t it Jon? Good thing I provided a little more in depth background on these deplorable men, isn’t it?

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
So in other words …. it was purly an ad hominem attack on the First Lady. And I was correct in stating it was unrelated to the article and the ensuing discussion. I’ll stick to the topic and thank you for sharing. :)

She’s the typical RW guttersnipe.

Sean68 said:
My father was like that too. He used to tell me that the idea of the liberal media was a “smoke screen.”

You’re never too old not to listen to your father.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
You’re never too old not to listen to your father.

Well, he was a Marxist so he regarded most mainstream liberals as suckers. But what even he wouldn’t deny–leaving aside disagreements over definitions of terms like liberal, moderate, and conservative–is that the large majority of people who control the major mainstream media (e.g., the editorial pages and the major networks) are Obama supporters.

Sean68 said:
“How so? Because they are both black? LOL. The same way Osama Bin Laden is closer to George W. Bush type of association? Really? You do realize that David Duke IS a GOP politician….right?”

It’s cute how you pretend not to know the reason.

I’m serious. Draw an association of Farrakhan to Obama & I can do the same for OBL to Dubya or John Boehner to a racist.

OxyCon said:
That’s pretty thin gruel, isn’t it Jon? Good thing I provided a little more in depth background on these deplorable men, isn’t it?

How do you know they are deplorable? Just because they have been accused doesn’t mean anything, because as you can see, they walk the street freely. Maybe you should take up your problem with the justice department because you don’t seem to think they are doing a good job..

and like a little sheep, you believe someone is guilty just because they are accused, you’d fit right in at the salem witch trials.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Perhaps it has to do with how much welove and care about our fellow citizens that are being lied to by a harmful, corporate-pimping, propagana machine.

Might work for you. What would you say about most of the Fox haters, who also refer to their viewers as racist, hateful, teabaggers. Doesn’t sound to me like they’re too interested in loving their fellow citizens as much as they are in simply being hateful douchebags.

Sean68 said:
that the large majority of people who control the major mainstream media (e.g., the editorial pages and the major networks) are Obama supporters

I would disagree with your dad then.

Gasket said:
I’m serious. Draw an association of Farrakhan to Obama & I can do the same for OBL to Dubya or John Boehner to a racist.

Actually, I think his asociation with Wright is bad enough. But if you insist:

Barack Obama’s pastor of 20 years, the man who married him to his wife and who baptized his daughters, in whose church he sat every Sunday, whom he has described as his “spiritual advisor” and the man who “brought him to christ,” and who titled his book after one of Wright’s despicable, racist speeches and whom he regarded as a father-like figure to him considers Louis Farrakhan a close, personal friend and regards Louis Farrakhan–a man who thinks whites are a race of devils–as one of the great AND GOOD men of our times.

A man whom Obama himself refers to respectfully as “Minister” Farrakhan despite the fact that Farrakhan’s faith is little more than a cartoonish racist cult.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
I would disagree with your dad then.

Despite his politics, he was a reasonable man.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Might work for you. What would you say about most of the Fox haters, who also refer to their viewers as racist, hateful, teabaggers. Doesn’t sound to me like they’re too interested in loving their fellow citizens as much as they are in simply being hateful douchebags.

Well both sides have to want real communication and be willing to open up to it. In todays climate, not an easy task.

Snowspot said:
How do you know they are deplorable? Just because they have been accused doesn’t mean anything, because as you can see, they walk the street freely. Maybe you should take up your problem with the justice department because you don’t seem to think they are doing a good job.. and like a little sheep, you believe someone is guilty just because they are accused, you’d fit right in at the salem witch trials.

Well, one of them openly supports Hezbollah. That’s not an accusation; that’s self identification.

Sean68 said:
Despite his politics, he was a reasonable man.

I like reasonable people no matter their politics. :)

Sean68 said:
Actually, I think his asociation with Wright is bad enough. But if you insist:

Barack Obama’s pastor of 20 years, the man who married him to his wife and who baptized his daughters, in whose church he sat every Sunday, whom he has described as his “spiritual advisor” and the man who “brought him to christ,” and who titled his book after one of Wright’s despicable, racist speeches and whom he regarded as a father-like figure to him considers Louis Farrakhan a close, personal friend and regards Louis Farrakhan–a man who thinks whites are a race of devils–as one of the great AND GOOD men of our times.

A man whom Obama himself refers to respectfully as “Minister” Farrakhan despite the fact that Farrakhan’s faith is little more than a cartoonish racist cult.

You hate the president and whatever anyone says about you, you say it about the president, we know.

cjd ohio 1 said:
perfect lol, hang out with color me badd, she wants to put people in camps

Tim McVeigh was the original teabag.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
I would disagree with your dad then.

You think most supported McCain, huh?

Snowspot said:
You hate the president and whatever anyone says about you, you say it about the president, we know.

I absolutely do not hate the President. I actually voted for him, though admittedly with large misgivings–and having to do as much with the deficiencies of McCain and Palin as with the merits of Obama.

Snowspot said:
You hate the president and whatever anyone says about you, you say it about the president, we know.

P.S. That made very little sense.

Sean68 said:
You think most supported McCain, huh?

Sorry, this makes no sense to me. Most what?

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Sorry, this makes no sense to me. Most what?

I said that however one defines their terms (liberal, left, moderate) one thing I don’t think is arguable is that most of the mainstream media supported Obama for President. You disagreed. Therefore, you presumably believe the opposite–that is, they supported McCain. Though I suppose you could be arguing that there was no clear-cut preference.

Chudi said:
I can’t summon any sympathy for them at all…none.

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I have no problems at all with what happened at the protest rally in the park.

They obviously were within the law (I’ve seen no claims to the contrary) and the local paper described the event as:

“According to the OC Register, the protest event “had the atmosphere of a July 4 picnic. Many brought lawn chairs and blankets, sang patriotic songs and tied red, white and blue bandanas on their dogs.” But as the ICNA fundraiser began, “a splinter group of about 100 stood about 50 yards from the community center entrance and booed, yelled ‘go home’ and chanted ‘no Sharia law’ as attendees entered the building. Among their signs were ones that said ‘ICNA supports Hamas and Hezbollah.’””

I’m not comfortable with the splinter group screaming and yelling with the number of young children and families having to walk thru it to attend a perfectly legal event. I don’t like them representing me.

As for this “including a clip of Councilwoman Deborah Pauly saying she knows marines like her son who would be “willing to help these terrorists to an early meeting in paradise.” I disagree with many here and the characterization in The Blaze that her remark was “disturbingly half-joked that her son”.

I sure hope that every fighting man and woman in military would feel that way. How else are they supposed to feel and think.

Sean68 said:
Therefore, you presumably believe the opposite–that is, they supported McCain. Though I suppose you could be arguing that there was no clear-cut preference.

Okay, You said that most supports … but if you want to talk about supportED instead …. of course most probably supported Obama … most Americans did. Frankly, I believe to most Americans, Obama seemed the only sane choice. That does not automatically translate to them supporting Obama now.

Snowspot said:
How do you know they are deplorable? Just because they have been accused doesn’t mean anything, because as you can see, they walk the street freely. Maybe you should take up your problem with the justice department because you don’t seem to think they are doing a good job..

and like a little sheep, you believe someone is guilty just because they are accused, you’d fit right in at the salem witch trials.

And your willful ignorance means that you’re a prime candidate for winning a Darwin Award at some point in time during you life.

Grammie said:
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I have no problems at all with what happened at the protest rally in the park.

They obviously were within the law (I’ve seen no claims to the contrary) and the local paper described the event as:

“According to the OC Register, the protest event “had the atmosphere of a July 4 picnic. Many brought lawn chairs and blankets, sang patriotic songs and tied red, white and blue bandanas on their dogs.” But as the ICNA fundraiser began, “a splinter group of about 100 stood about 50 yards from the community center entrance and booed, yelled ‘go home’ and chanted ‘no Sharia law’ as attendees entered the building. Among their signs were ones that said ‘ICNA supports Hamas and Hezbollah.’””

I’m not comfortable with the splinter group screaming and yelling with the number of young children and families having to walk thru it to attend a perfectly legal event. I don’t like them representing me.

As for this “including a clip of Councilwoman Deborah Pauly saying she knows marines like her son who would be “willing to help these terrorists to an early meeting in paradise.” I disagree with many here and the characterization in The Blaze that her remark was “disturbingly half-joked that her son”.

I sure hope that every fighting man and woman in military would feel that way. How else are they supposed to feel and think.

And don’t forget that we learned this week that a White13 year old girl ran away from home because her Pakistani step father and idiot mother were arranging for her to fly to Pakistan so she could marry some child molesting Paki pervert. And that we lost two of our bravest and two more were critically injured by a Muslim terrorist this week. Two events that would cause patriotic people to feel anger at the terrorist supporting Muslim community.

James Randal said:
James Randal says:
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Progressives need to embrace their heritage. These teabagger, GOP pigs will not stop until all of us are dead. We need to embrace our revolutionary roots. We need to start arming ourselves and protecting our communities from right wing pigs. We need to realize that these teabagger, GOP pigs do not want to peacefully co-exist with us. We need to realize that guns belong in the hands of intelligent, fully evolved liberals, in order to protect ourselves from these violent teabagger, GOP lunatics. That is why I never turn my back on a right winger. If you are a liberal living in a red state, please do not be a weak, Jon Stewart liberals. Please stop trying to think that you can get these animals to think logically. Protect yourselves and stay safe.

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Wow, two people here gave this ranting rabid puke two thumbs up?

Did you even read what he said? You do realize that that is a call to arms and that he is inciting, yes inciting, violence.

Color Me Badd said:
Tim McVeigh was the original teabag.

2005 called. They want their talking point back.

Did anyone actually attend the meeting and will we know what was being said?

My concern is that anti Islam groups and fear mongers like Pam Geller are spreading ignorance because they include all Islam into one group. About 25 miles from here in Murfreesboro American citizens who are Muslim were being portested from wanting to build a community center. Then good ole Mike Huckabee goes on TV to make disparaging remarks about Islam when their Christian neighbor allows them to use his church. Now we have a local rep trying to make Shariah law illegal in TN.

Fostering ignorance, irrational fear and resentment of a religion only increases the chances of continued violence.

Grammie said:
Did you even read what he said? You do realize that that is a call to arms and that he is inciting, yes inciting, violence.

Actually it is a call for protecting ourselves FROM aggression. Unless, of course, it makes you feel like you want to shoot him. Then you would read it as a call TO violence I suppose.

CosmosDan said:
Fostering ignorance, irrational fear and resentment of a religion only increases the chances of continued violence.

Uh…on who’s part is this “continued violence”? Cite examples too.

Grammie said:
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Wow, two people here gave this ranting rabid puke two thumbs up?

Did you even read what he said? You do realize that that is a call to arms and that he is inciting, yes inciting, violence.

Don’t give it a second thought. The guy’s one of two things, either some kind of idiot TYT army wannabe who gets a chubby thinking about what he could have been had it not been for all the dope and beer, or some kid who hates his parents and it makes him feel old and rebellious to pretend to be a muslim.

James Randal said:
Progressives need to embrace their heritage. These teabagger, GOP pigs will not stop until all of us are dead. We need to embrace our revolutionary roots. We need to start arming ourselves and protecting our communities from right wing pigs. We need to realize that these teabagger, GOP pigs do not want to peacefully co-exist with us. We need to realize that guns belong in the hands of intelligent, fully evolved liberals, in order to protect ourselves from these violent teabagger, GOP lunatics. That is why I never turn my back on a right winger. If you are a liberal living in a red state, please do not be a weak, Jon Stewart liberals. Please stop trying to think that you can get these animals to think logically. Protect yourselves and stay safe.

If anyone doubts that progressivism and nazism are not sibling ideologies look no farther than JAMES RANDAL

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Actually it is a call for protecting ourselves FROM aggression. Unless, of course, it makes you feel like you want to shoot him. Then you would read it as a call TO violence I suppose.

History show’s that no animal is more violent than a leftist.

CosmosDan said:
Did anyone actually attend the meeting and will we know what was being said?

My concern is that anti Islam groups and fear mongers like Pam Geller are spreading ignorance because they include all Islam into one group. About 25 miles from here in Murfreesboro American citizens who are Muslim were being portested from wanting to build a community center. Then good ole Mike Huckabee goes on TV to make disparaging remarks about Islam when their Christian neighbor allows them to use his church. Now we have a local rep trying to make Shariah law illegal in TN.

Fostering ignorance, irrational fear and resentment of a religion only increases the chances of continued violence.

Sorry… couldn’t help myself…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4m4wbYc08k

Well, at least we know by the headline where this “writer” stands on the issues……..Disgusting, you say?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm

Let’s us compare notes and see what disgusting is all about, sir

Perhaps the “writer” of this article is one of those “Left-wing Zealots” that BillO mentioned last night…………

Just so I got this strait. This woman being interviewed about being scared by the protesters was taking her kids to go see a man who the US suspects was involved in the 1993 Trade Center Bombing and who admits openly he supports Hezbollah. Ummm… I think we should ALL be scared for her kids if this is their moms idea of a good upbringing. Might as well start tracking this kid now.

Black and Gold Brad said:
There are lunatics on all sides of the political spectrum. The difference is that the MSM will focus like a laser-beam on certain elements (conservative), while generally ignoring elements they agree with (liberals).

Totally Agree

Chudi said:
For some reason, I just don’t feel any sympathy. Islam is a terrible religion, and they have been killing people all over the world. American muslims and organizations like CAIR always claim islam is a peaceful religion, and we all know that is not true. I can’t summon any sympathy for them at all…none.

Agreed

Amazing. You can say pretty much anything you want about the worlds 1.5 BILLION muslims in this country, but if you dare even say the J word, referencing the 20 MILLION jews in the world, you are forced to immediately apologize and stand naked in the streets for shame.

And of course people defend this. A lot people defended the KKK too.

Publius219 said:
Amazing. You can say pretty much anything you want about the worlds 1.5 BILLION muslims in this country, but if you dare even say the J word, referencing the 20 MILLION jews in the world, you are forced to immediately apologize and stand naked in the streets for shame.

Jewdaism doesn’t encourage the murder of innocence like islam.

illusive man said:
Jewdaism doesn’t encourage the murder of innocence like islam.

Like islam does.

I’ve wondered for years where all the asinine morons congregate during the day, and now I know, they post hateful anti Islamic rhetoric here. It really is hard to believe there is that much ignorance in this country but seeing is believing.

Tedderman said:
I’ve wondered for years where all the asinine morons congregate during the day, and now I know, they post hateful anti Islamic rhetoric here. It really is hard to believe there is that much ignorance in this country but seeing is believing.

Do you really think islam is a religon of peace? Talk about ignorance.

Publius219 said:
Amazing. You can say pretty much anything you want about the worlds 1.5 BILLION muslims in this country, but if you dare even say the J word, referencing the 20 MILLION jews in the world, you are forced to immediately apologize and stand naked in the streets for shame.

What difference does it make if they’re 1.5 billion or 100? This declaration about offending the sensibilities of “1.5 billion” (the number seems to grow with each counting) always sounds ominous to me. Like, please don’t get them angry. And since when can anything be said about Jews?

Tedderman said:
I’ve wondered for years where all the asinine morons congregate during the day, and now I know, they post hateful anti Islamic rhetoric here. It really is hard to believe there is that much ignorance in this country but seeing is believing.

I think you’ll find the more you learn about islam and its history, the less innocuous it is.

illusive man said:
Do you really think islam is a religon of peace? Talk about ignorance.

It believes whatever it’s told.

Tedderman said:
I’ve wondered for years where all the asinine morons congregate during the day, and now I know, they post hateful anti Islamic rhetoric here. It really is hard to believe there is that much ignorance in this country but seeing is believing.

Every time I go to thinkprogress I say the exact same thing. Hate and a LOT of it.

Publius219 said:
Amazing. You can say pretty much anything you want about the worlds 1.5 BILLION muslims in this country, but if you dare even say the J word, referencing the 20 MILLION jews in the world, you are forced to immediately apologize and stand naked in the streets for shame.

When did that happen?

I think it wa absolutely terrible how this family was treated. Even if they were with Siraj Wahhaj the Moslems were in their rights to hold a rally. This is the United States of America with rights, freedoms for e veryone. If even one person’s rights are taken away then we all all in danger of our rights taken away. Islam is a major religion. Most of us in the US may not agree with it but that doesn’t mean its a terrorist faith. That is overgeneralizing. a creed that is practiced by hundreds of millions of followers,. To treat innocent , ordinarily Muslim families as they were treated by those horrible protesters is totally disgusting.

Hey, Illusive brain, Islam is a religion of peace whose tennants have been perverted and subverted by some radicals who spread hatred and lies. Tens of millions have died in the name of Christianity over the centuries and there are Christian militia training today in Michigan and West Virginia.
As for you Sean68, I studied many religions during my years in a seminary and the only difference between Christianity and Islam is that Islam is not as old. Just go back 700 years in the Christain religion and you have the Papal Inquisition, Ilsam has 700years to go. Back then Catholics concidered Jews and Muslims inferior(infidels).

Oh, and Olby Schmuck, take a look at your avatar and tell me that’s not as hateful as the majority of your posts.

artemesia said:
This is the United States of America with rights, freedoms for e veryone. If even one person’s rights are taken away then we all all in danger of our rights taken away

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I agree totally.

So, who’s rights were denied here?

The protesters have the right to protest.

The family has a right to attend a lawful event.

Both exercised their rights.

There have been absolutely no accusations that either group violated any laws. In fact in one snippet of the video it is clear that the chanting protesters made way for a family to get to the event.

Exactly what is your complaint? Is it that protesters make noise or that only certain protesters are allowed to make noise and cause discomfort, not any denial of rights or physical harm?

Tedderman said:
Hey, Illusive brain, Islam is a religion of peace whose tennants have been perverted and subverted by some radicals who spread hatred and lies. Tens of millions have died in the name of Christianity over the centuries and there are Christian militia training today in Michigan and West Virginia.As for you Sean68, I studied many religions during my years in a seminary and the only difference between Christianity and Islam is that Islam is not as old. Just go back 700 years in the Christain religion and you have the Papal Inquisition, Ilsam has 700years to go. Back then Catholics concidered Jews and Muslims inferior(infidels).

You didn’t learn the difference between how the bible was produced/assembled and how mohammed received the koran? You don’t think there’s a planetary difference in the way muslims relate to islam, the meaning of islams, its goals and aims, its claims on the world and the demands it makes on its followers and that of christians and christianity? Really? How about the basic difference in the teaching of jesus and the life of mohammed? None of that?

illusive man said:
If anyone doubts that progressivism and nazism are not sibling ideologies look no farther than JAMES RANDAL

Nice try teabagging pig. So I’m a Nazi for trying to get Progressives to abandon their silly beliefs that they can argue rationally with teabagger, GOP pigs? Not only do you teabagger, GOP pigs have low IQs but you slack basic reading comprehension skills. I am sick and tired of teabagger, GOP pigs shooting liberals. It is time Progressives armed themselves and protected themselves against pigs like you and Glenn Beck.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110002

Grammie said:
.Wow, two people here gave this ranting rabid puke two thumbs up? Did you even read what he said? You do realize that that is a call to arms and that he is inciting, yes inciting, violence.

I am inciting violence by asking Progressives to arm themselves in order to protect themselves against psycho teabagger, GOP pigs? In addition to this video, progressives don’t have to look much farther than the curious care of Byron Williams. More and more progressives are waking up and realizing that bending over backwards like Jon Stewart isn’t working. Teabagger pigs have declared war on us and want us dead. It is human nature to fight back. Unfortunately, some liberals are too blinded by a misplaced sense of self-righteousness in order to see the light. Hence, they are called “Jon Stewart” liberals. As teabagger pigs continue their violent assaults on liberals, more and more progressives are starting to understand why passiveness is not the answer.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110002

These folks are ignorant. They heart is filled with hatred, because nothing good would go in. They are sick, and are being used by psychotic Geller.

It appears to me that Muslims are the accepted group that you can show your bigotry to. Isn’t this similar to people protesting the black kids in the south, when segregation was abolished? people are quick to jump up quickly that they are not bigots in the lights of the KKK, but when their actions are put together with the bigots of the past (they do match).

Hate+ death threats+ threats to children+ foul language+ religious persecution = conservative christian tea values?

Color Me Badd said:
Even though my heart breaks for the children who were tramatized by these teabag filth, I revel in the fact that this is all on tape for the world to see how the teabags and racist act.

The same could be said about Madison, WI, no?
Check out the doc “Waiting For Superman”

timcajun said:
Hate+ death threats+ threats to children+ foul language+ religious persecution = conservative christian tea values?

In the Bizarro liberal worldview, generally speaking, the “equation” works out

Tedderman said:
Hey, Illusive brain, Islam is a religion of peace whose tennants have been perverted and subverted by some radicals who spread hatred and lies. Tens of millions have died in the name of Christianity over the centuries and there are Christian militia training today in Michigan and West Virginia.P>

Never has a leftist drone spewed such ridiculous lie’s, You probably think christianity started the crusades as well. The only time’s people died in the name of christianity in mass was in the crusades and during the spanish inquisition. And you say tens of millions? and what islam killed only 20,40 people? Since the middle ages all the to today people have been murdered, raped, dismembered, disfiguered, enslaved, all in the name of allah and the pedophile muhammad. If you think islam is a religion of peace than I think the small amount of radicals and the majority of non radicals that let this barbarism happen did not get the memo.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Don’t give it a second thought. The guy’s one of two things, either some kind of idiot TYT army wannabe who gets a chubby thinking about what he could have been had it not been for all the dope and beer, or some kid who hates his parents and it makes him feel old and rebellious to pretend to be a muslim.

Considering the fact that most teabagger, GOP pigs like Obama is a Kenyan Muslim running FEMA camps, I would not plan the intellectually superior card. Unfortunately for you, more and more liberals are waking up and realizing that they have to protect themselves from teabagger, GOP pigs like you. Upper westside, Jon Stewart liberalism is dying. Liberals are realizing that teabagger, GOP pigs are not only intellectually inferior, but are also predispositioned to be violent. Liberals are realizing that passiveness is not the solution. They are beginning to arm themselves and protect themselves from teabagger animals. We are not savages like you. We do not shoot doctors and send death threats to 80-year old professors. We do not view political commentators as prophets and do not engage in violent acts at their behest. We are not the BYRON WILLIAMS of the world. We are not the JARED LOUGHNERS of the world. Uneducated, primitive, Jesus freak teabagger, GOP pigs are the ones who fulfill these roles. So keep it up, you are only raising more awareness.

OxyCon said:
Uh…on who’s part is this “continued violence”? Cite examples too.

Well there seems to be some continued violence going on in Afghanistan. Is that enough?

James Randal said:
Nice try teabagging pig. So I’m a Nazi for trying to get Progressives to abandon their silly beliefs that they can argue rationally with teabagger, GOP pigs? Not only do you teabagger, GOP pigs have low IQs but you slack basic reading comprehension skills. I am sick and tired of teabagger, GOP pigs shooting liberals. It is time Progressives armed themselves and protected themselves against pigs like you and Glenn Beck. http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110002

This drone need’s to be locked up for the safty of others. Only a matter of time before it kill’s someone.

tatboy said:
Sorry… couldn’t help myself…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4m4wbYc08k

LOL! You’re forgiven

Sean68, I left the church over the very assemblage of books in the bible of which you speak. That and the fact a priest molested two of my friends then had them dismissed from seminary.
Like christians, there are grocery store muslims who are no more devout than the avarage American so called Christian. To assume that every muslim is radical in a faith with 1.5 billion followers belies the facts. There are about 250,000 radical muslims worldwide today. And the best way to radicalize them is to bomb their homes and kill their children. On that count, we are succeeding greatly.

James Randal said:
Progressives need to embrace their heritage. These teabagger, GOP pigs will not stop until all of us are dead. We need to embrace our revolutionary roots. We need to start arming ourselves and protecting our communities from right wing pigs. We need to realize that these teabagger, GOP pigs do not want to peacefully co-exist with us. We need to realize that guns belong in the hands of intelligent, fully evolved liberals, in order to protect ourselves from these violent teabagger, GOP lunatics. That is why I never turn my back on a right winger. If you are a liberal living in a red state, please do not be a weak, Jon Stewart liberals. Please stop trying to think that you can get these animals to think logically. Protect yourselves and stay safe.

Just replace teabagger, GOP pigs with jew and liberal and progressive with nazi and you have a hitler rant

Look! More news from the “religion of peace”…..

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/frankfurt-airport-shooting-act-islamic-terror-european-officials/story?id=13045312

And libs think that their fellow countrymen who disagree with them politically are the enemy?

At least the protesters didn’t chant “Fox Lies” over and over and over and over and over…………
Peaceful assembly along side a peaceful assembly, what’s the problem?
BTW- This video did come from CAIR, the peacemakers of our time…….

Tedderman said:
Sean68, I left the church over the very assemblage of books in the bible of which you speak. That and the fact a priest molested two of my friends then had them dismissed from seminary.Like christians, there are grocery store muslims who are no more devout than the avarage American so called Christian. To assume that every muslim is radical in a faith with 1.5 billion followers belies the facts. There are about 250,000 radical muslims worldwide today. And the best way to radicalize them is to bomb their homes and kill their children. On that count, we are succeeding greatly.

I don’t think your average muslim is that different from your average “sunday christian,” to borrow kierkegaard’s phrase. It’s more a casual cultural thing; however, for the followers of islam who wish to wreak havoc on this world, have a smorgasbord of authority by which to justify it.

Color Me Badd said:
Tim McVeigh was the original teabag.

Mohammed was the original terrorist

[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

Tedderman said:
That and the fact a priest molested two of my friends then had them dismissed from seminary

Was it a Catholic seminary? Just curious…….

More from Mo……….

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Tedderman said:
Sean68, I left the church over the very assemblage of books in the bible of which you speak. That and the fact a priest molested two of my friends then had them dismissed from seminary.Like christians, there are grocery store muslims who are no more devout than the avarage American so called Christian. To assume that every muslim is radical in a faith with 1.5 billion followers belies the facts. There are about 250,000 radical muslims worldwide today. And the best way to radicalize them is to bomb their homes and kill their children. On that count, we are succeeding greatly.

By the way, I have started to agree with the sentiment of your last sentence. But I disagree with you that there are only 250,000 radicals in the world. I suppose it depends upon how one defines radical, but I’ve seen polls that suggest the number of “radical” muslims is much, much higher than that.

Dsiscokid said:
More from Mo………. [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

This is something your armchair islam apologist doesn’t understand. Despite the fact that there are contradictory views expressed in the koran, when god contradicts himself (imagine that!), the latter expressions, according to islamic scholars, supercede or abrogate the prior expressions. And, as our luck would have it, the more violent intolerant sentiments are the latter ones–that is, the ones that appear later in mohammed’s life.

tatboy said:
Just so I got this strait. This woman being interviewed about being scared by the protesters was taking her kids to go see a man who the US suspects was involved in the 1993 Trade Center Bombing and who admits openly he supports Hezbollah. Ummm… I think we should ALL be scared for her kids if this is their moms idea of a good upbringing. Might as well start tracking this kid now.

To be honest, knowing what I know about how CAIR operates, especially considering how they are pimping this video and treating it as a media coupe, I would not be surprised if they saw the protesters and then got on their phones and made some pleas for some Muslims to bring some children and women with them so they could make a propaganda video. The Palestinians do this stuff all the time. It’s called “Pallywood” for the way they stage propaganda events and film them.

Because these events are usually only attended by Muslim men, I would like to know when the women and children began showing up. This isn’t the end of this “story” by a long shot…either way.

This quote from the Koran…..
[5.75] The Messiah, son of Marium is but an apostle; apostles before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away.

….is no way compatible with these verses from The Word of God
Isaiah 9:6 (King James Version)
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

…..or this verse
John 14:6 (King James Version)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

OxyCon said:
To be honest, knowing what I know about how CAIR operates, especially considering how they are pimping this video and treating it as a media coupe, I would not be surprised if they saw the protesters and then got on their phones and made some pleas for some Muslims to bring some children and women with them so they could make a propaganda video. The Palestinians do this stuff all the time. It’s called “Pallywood” for the way they stage propaganda events and film them. Because these events are usually only attended by Muslim men, I would like to know when the women and children began showing up. This isn’t the end of this “story” by a long shot…either way.

Until CAIR calls for full religious and political freedom for non-muslims in Saudi Arabia, who cares what they say?

Sean68 said:
This is something your armchair islam apologist doesn’t understand. Despite the fact that there are contradictory views expressed in the koran, when god contradicts himself (imagine that!), the latter expressions, according to islamic scholars, supercede or abrogate the prior expressions. And, as our luck would have it, the more violent intolerant sentiments are the latter ones–that is, the ones that appear later in mohammed’s life.

A sad fact when one follows a religious nut. Jesus warned about this

John 16
1These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
2They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

CosmosDan said:
Fostering ignorance, irrational fear and resentment of a religion only increases the chances of continued violence.

OxyCon said:
Uh…on who’s part is this “continued violence”? Cite examples too.

CosmosDan said:
Well there seems to be some continued violence going on in Afghanistan. Is that enough?

Am I understanding you correctly here by thinking that you are condemning America and our troops for “continued violence” in Afghanistan? Please correct me if I’m wrong, but on the one hand you say ignorance, irrational fear and resentment of Islam increases continued violence, and then when asked to cite an example, you allude to our war against Islamist radicals in Afghanistan.
Doesn’t sound like we’re on the same team, or you’re rooting for America to me.

Indeed Sean, we are creating far more radicals and loosing the war of the hearts and minds.

Put the good book away. If Jesus and God were hanging around the WI when this went down they would have thought those people were just what they are. First class A-holes. Amen and pass the cheese.

OxyCon said:
Am I understanding you correctly here by thinking that you are condemning America and our troops for “continued violence” in Afghanistan? Please correct me if I’m wrong, but on the one hand you say ignorance, irrational fear and resentment of Islam increases continued violence, and then when asked to cite an example, you allude to our war against Islamist radicals in Afghanistan.Doesn’t sound like we’re on the same team, or you’re rooting for America to me.

It look’s like cosmo belives the only way there will be peace in afghanistan is when our solder’s heads are on a stick.

huntingtonboy said:
Put the good book away. If Jesus and God were hanging around the WI when this went down they would have thought those people were just what they are. First class A-holes. Amen and pass the cheese.

Perhaps we Christians should be following Jesus like these men
Acts 5:42
And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.

Dsiscokid says:
At least the protesters didn’t chant “Fox Lies” over and over and over and over and over…………
Peaceful assembly along side a peaceful assembly, what’s the problem?
BTW- This video did come from CAIR, the peacemakers of our time…….
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Are you on something or just can’t accept being wrong? “Fox lies”, while hateful is still true,….. but where do those bag, death threats and scaring children come into play? Long live the hate, long live the christian values!

timcajun said:
Dsiscokid says:At least the protesters didn’t chant “Fox Lies” over and over and over and over and over…………Peaceful assembly along side a peaceful assembly, what’s the problem?BTW- This video did come from CAIR, the peacemakers of our time…….……………………………………………………………………………………………………….. Are you on something or just can’t accept being wrong? “Fox lies”, while hateful is still true,….. but where do those bag, death threats and scaring children come into play? Long live the hate, long live the christian values!

The hate? The truth WOULD sound like hate if you keep rejecting the truth.
My point was that in Madison that was ALL they said. No facts. No proof. No evidence. At least they could have had a Media matters talking point to go by.

By the way, don’t take my word for it, take His Word for it
Psalm 119:89
For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven

Tedderman said:
Indeed Sean, we are creating far more radicals and loosing the war of the hearts and minds.

If your blame America first nonsense is so true, then please explain to me how these Ethiopian Christians “lost the war for Muslim’s hearts and minds”:

International Christian Concern (ICC) has learned that in the past two days, thousands of Muslims have razed five churches and the homes of two evangelists in Asendabo, Ethiopia. Christian leaders are asking for protection after the Muslim attackers continued burning churches even after the federal police were sent to the town.

The Muslims started the attacks yesterday after falsely accusing the Christians of desecrating the Qur’an. More than ten thousand Muslims shouted “Allah Akbar” (Allah is great) as they burned down five evangelical churches. The government sent the federal police force to protect the Christians after the Muslims burned down the first three churches. The Muslims overwhelmed the police force and burned down two more churches today.

Speaking with ICC, Christian leaders expressed their fear that Muslims will start killing the Christians unless the government sends more security forces to contain the Muslim attackers.

At the time of the writing of this report, none of the Muslim attackers have been arrested. The government officials detained some Christians and took them to the nearby Jimma town stating that they need to do that for their own security.

Ethiopia is a Christian majority country and was one of the first nations to accept Christianity. However, in the areas of the country where Muslims are the majority, Christians face attacks.

Dsiscokid says:
By the way, don’t take my word for it, take His Word for it
Psalm 119:89
For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven

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What does this have to with supporting tea hate on one end, then judging something less in a worse light? This is classic self-righteous tea behavior! Where does it say in the bible to condone hate? In the event a liberal uses hate or violence, then they are wrong! You are about to prove your mind set here, Do you condone the hate and threats in this clip….yes or no? Since you like to mis-quote, “the truth will set you free”! Yes or no?

timcajun said:
What does this have to with supporting tea hate on one end, then judging something less in a worse light? This is classic self-righteous tea behavior!

Granted, the protesters should have been praying for and witnessing to the Muslims, but not everyone with Tea Party sympathies is a Christian.

timcajun said:
Where does it say in the bible to condone hate?

It does not say that Christians should hate anyone
Romans 12:18
If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
Notice how the Bible says, “If it be possible…”

timcajun said:
Since you like to mis-quote, “the truth will set you free”!

Actually, John 8:32 says….”And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

Thanks, there a two sides and hate should be avoided by both. I wish you well!

Sean68 said:
This is something your armchair islam apologist doesn’t understand. Despite the fact that there are contradictory views expressed in the koran, when god contradicts himself (imagine that!), the latter expressions, according to islamic scholars, supercede or abrogate the prior expressions. And, as our luck would have it, the more violent intolerant sentiments are the latter ones–that is, the ones that appear later in mohammed’s life.

And how about that armchair Islam condemnation?

OxyCon said:
The Palestinians do this stuff all the time. It’s called “Pallywood” for the way they stage propaganda events and film them.

And sometimes, they’ll even shoot one of their own kids for a good clip. Like Mohamed al-Dura.

Sadly, as Islam is uncivilized, it might be prudent to avoid Muslims, and to demonstrate unremitting suspicion and hostility to them as such.

This is some stupid, ugly video. These people should be ashamed.

OxyCon said:
Am I understanding you correctly here by thinking that you are condemning America and our troops for “continued violence” in Afghanistan?

No you are not understanding me correctly.

OxyCon said:
Doesn’t sound like we’re on the same team, or you’re rooting for America to me.

Well lets see. I don’t want Americans to be killed and maimed in an extended war that is doing nothing to increase our security and helping to bankrupt the country. Does that sound like pro America to you?
Our bad image in the Middle East was not an accident and neither are we completely innocent. Now we’re in a situation where we need to defend ourselves from terrorism, while trying not make things worse. It’s not all in our control, but we have to do what we can to avoid more resentment and more wars.
Fostering resentment and ignorance about Islam , and lumping all 1.5 billion Muslims into one group only helps the recruiters for radical Islam as does our continued military presence in the ME. It increases the chances of continued violence , rather than decreases them.

illusive man said:
It look’s like cosmo belives the only way there will be peace in afghanistan is when our solder’s heads are on a stick.

Wow, that’s about as close as I’ve come to cursing someone on this board.

You have no F**king idea what I think except that I think you are prone to quick judgement of others in a pretty ignorant fashion.

I’d rather not see more American’s or Afghani’s or Pakistani’s die in a useless war.

CosmosDan said:
And how about that armchair Islam condemnation?

Read this. http://goo.gl/swNOR

OxyCon said:
you allude to our war against Islamist radicals in Afghanistan.

The truth might be that the war we wage in Afghanistan seems a whole lot broader than “Islamic radicals” to many Americans and to much of the world.

“Funny” how God-Lovers (of all faiths) have been the cause of nearly all death and destruction in human history…

http://www.DeathToAmerika.com

And the problem with video is ???????

CosmosDan said:
Well lets see. I don’t want Americans to be killed and maimed in an extended war that is doing nothing to increase our security and helping to bankrupt the country. Does that sound like pro America to you?
Our bad image in the Middle East was not an accident and neither are we completely innocent. Now we’re in a situation where we need to defend ourselves from terrorism, while trying not make things worse. It’s not all in our control, but we have to do what we can to avoid more resentment and more wars.
Fostering resentment and ignorance about Islam , and lumping all 1.5 billion Muslims into one group only helps the recruiters for radical Islam as does our continued military presence in the ME. It increases the chances of continued violence , rather than decreases them.

Well said. You should just make this your signature whenever you post on topics regarding Islam. I don’t understand how this concept isn’t plainly evident to everybody……

Sean68 said:
No, it’s for saying she’d never been proud of her country until her husband was on the way to becoming president.

And shes black

Moose said:
“Funny” how God-Lovers (of all faiths) have been the cause of nearly all death and destruction in human history…

http://www.DeathToAmerika.com

This is gross overstatement. Religion reflects man’s ongoing struggle and has been the source of much conflict, as well as much good. Take a look at nationalism, tribal conflict , and just the lust for power.

Bobby Levit says:
And the problem with video is ???????

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Hate blinds.

CosmosDan said:
No you are not understanding me correctly.
Well lets see. I don’t want Americans to be killed and maimed in an extended war that is doing nothing to increase our security and helping to bankrupt the country. Does that sound like pro America to you?
Our bad image in the Middle East was not an accident and neither are we completely innocent. Now we’re in a situation where we need to defend ourselves from terrorism, while trying not make things worse. It’s not all in our control, but we have to do what we can to avoid more resentment and more wars.
Fostering resentment and ignorance about Islam , and lumping all 1.5 billion Muslims into one group only helps the recruiters for radical Islam as does our continued military presence in the ME. It increases the chances of continued violence , rather than decreases them.

Were we in Afghanistan before the 9-11 attack? No, but Bin Laden was there planning the attack and he and al Queda are still in the region. So what was the provocation for the 911 attack, other then the fact that Bin Laden declared war/jihad on us? Also, have we been attacked by al Queda since we destroyed their terrorist base in Afghanistan and continue to hunt them down and kill them on their soil? The sacrifices our soldiers have made and the extra money our taxpayers have paid has, and continues to make us much safer. So just maybe if some of you anti-war types would actually support the troops in their mission, you could encourage them instead of discouraging them by telling them that what they are doing isn’t a good thing. No?

As for blaming America for the actions of a brutal religion that was spread through bloodshed and is fueled by blood, that is just plain willful ignorance on your part. Educate yourself and ask yourself what all the dead people throughout the history of Islam did to deserve to be murdered by their Muslim attackers. Most of the dead were just like you, who thought that if they just “turtled” and didn’t “provoke” the muslims, then they’d be safe from the barbarism. Ethiopians, Indonesians, Pakistanis, Afghanis, Russians, Indians, Italians, Pollacks, Jews, Chinese and on and on are all being butchered by muslims right now for one reason only… because they are infidels and muslims are rewarded in heaven for killing infidels. These innocent people who are being murdered did nothing to deserve being killed. The part of a person’s conscience that tells them that killing is wrong has been permanently removed by mohammed in his followers. It’s time to deal with reality, not fantasy. There are millions of people in this world that will kill you and everyone you love, if you or they happen to be in their country or territory simply because they read a “holy” book or listened to their Imam who instructed them to kill infidels. For the present time we are all relatively safe in America, but we have to be vigilant and we have to confront and destroy the people who want to come on our shores and kill us here. And this isn’t a fight that will end in your lifetime nor your children’s lifetime.

No, no, no, these patriotic “American people” are not hate mongers, they just love their country tooooo much to let people who don’t think or look like them have a place in this melting pot. Teabaggers are NOT hate mongers, this is the “librul” lamestream media making up stuff to make these wonderful patriotic conservatives look bad.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
The truth might be that the war we wage in Afghanistan seems a whole lot broader than “Islamic radicals” to many Americans and to much of the world.

You should be proud of they way our military has conducted the war on al queda in Afghanistan. We’ve been very humane to the people there and have helped them to live in peace and stability for the first time in their lives. The quality of life for Afghanis has increased exponentially.

Nadine Otego said:
No, no, no, these patriotic “American people” are not hate mongers, they just love their country tooooo much to let people who don’t think or look like them have a place in this melting pot. Teabaggers are NOT hate mongers, this is the “librul” lamestream media making up stuff to make these wonderful patriotic conservatives look bad.

This “charity event” was hosted by two known terrorist supporting organizations and two of the guests of honor were two terrorist supporting America haters. Get a grip.

If these people love their country so much why don`t the go home? Why are they here in the first place.
You can tell these murderers that their laws will never exist in America,and I don`t care what Obama say`s.

I`ll take a wild guess and say that the Charity Event was for them,and nobody else.Has anyone ever witnessed a Muslim helping out at a catastrophe…anywhere? Hell No!
These people give me the creeps.I think they are from Roswell NM.They were found in a duffel bag,and now they don`t know how to get them back in the bag.

And they`re spreading like wild fire.

This video is not indicative of the Tea-Party movement. What we are witnessing is the beginning of a UK type scenario in the U.S. where, allowing a diametrically opposed cultures into this country in such large numbers and in a small amount of time, they do not assimilate and, like Europe, once they have sustained large enough numbers they start demanding that their cultural laws take precedence over our own. The UK recently announced that fact, and that they know they have made a huge mistake. Legal immigration into this country should be cut by at least 3/4. Our borders must be secured, and ALL illegal aliens must be deported!

I thought you said they were from the Tea Party. Although I doubt there is such a “party” there is no evidence in this clip.

I thought the Tea Party was supposed to be better than this. How disappointing.

Norma says:
I thought you said they were from the Tea Party. Although I doubt there is such a “party” there is no evidence in this clip.

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I thought the protesters in WI were union, but there is no evidence in the clips!

Hey anybody hear any news from Egypt lately?
No?
Gee, I wonder why!

Cairo: March 2, 2011
In another incident in the series of continued provocation of the Copts, the Governor of Minya ordered the demotion of ten newly built homes belonging to three Coptic families in the village of Saeed Abdelmassih, 30 km from Minya, without any reason.

Villagers said that the Governor asked the families to pay one million pounds as a voluntary contribution to the governorate in order not to pull down the houses and when they refused they were asked to donate one-fifth of the land to build a mosque near St. Demiana Church. The owners also denied his request as all inhabitants of the village are Copts and no Muslims live there. This prompted the governor to carry out the demolition of the homes on February 28 by the police and army forces.

The new Freedom and Equality Party called on the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces on February 28, to sack the governor of Minya and accused him and others of causing sectarian strife in the governorate.

March 5, 2011
A mob of nearly four thousand Muslims has attacked Coptic homes this evening in the village of Soul, Atfif in Helwan Governorate, 30 kilometers from Cairo, and torched the Church of St. Mina and St. George. There are conflicting reports about the whereabouts of the Church pastor Father Yosha and three deacons who were at church; some say they died in the fire and some say they are being held captive by the Muslims inside the church.

Witnesses report the mob prevented the fire brigade from entering the village. The army, which has been stationed for the last two days in the village of Bromil, 7 kilometers from Soul, initially refused to go into Soul, according to the officer in charge. When the army finally sent three tanks to the village, Muslim elders sent them away, saying that everything was “in order now.”

A curfew has been imposed on the 12,000 Christians in the village.

This incident was triggered by a relationship between 40-year-old Copt Ashraf Iskander and a Muslim woman. Yesterday a “reconciliation” meeting was arranged between the relevant Coptic and Muslim families and together with the Muslim elders it was decided that Ashraf Iskander would have to leave the village because Muslims torched his house.

The father of the Muslim woman was killed by his cousin because he did not kill his daughter to preserve the family’s honor, which led the woman’s brother to avenge the death of his father by killing the cousin. The village Muslims blamed the Christians.

The Muslim mob attacked the church, exploding 5-6 gas cylinders inside the church, pulled down the cross and the domes and burnt everything inside. Activist Ramy Kamel of Katibatibia Coptic advocacy called US-based Coptic Hope Sat TV and sent an SOS on behalf of the Copts in Soul village, as they are presently being attacked by the mob. He also said that no one is able to contact the priest and the deacons inside the burning church and there is no answer from their mobile phones.

Coptic activist Wagih Yacoub reported the mob has broken into Coptic homes and has called on Copts to leave the village. “Terrorized Copts have fled and some hid in homes of Muslim neighbors,” he added.

Witnesses said the mob chanted “Allahu Akbar” and vowed to conduct their morning prayers on the church plot after razing it.

Maybe if we pull out of Afghanistan, Muslims will stop following muhammed’s orders.

thing is, the vast majority of them are probably ‘at home’. several million Muslims DO live here, y’know.

last time we went through this kinda religious persecution was when the Mormons started. difference is that many of the Mormons were killed by mobs. one state (Missouri) had laws mandating the killing of Mormons.

and before that, of course, it was the persecution of Catholics by Protestants. . .

read the constitution freedom of religion .

you can not judge a whole group onwhat a few madmen did on 9/11 and no we are not in afganistan and iraq to kill these people, but to spread freedom right?

Melissa Thompson says:

read the constitution freedom of religion .
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Conservatives have spat on the constitution for years, then in their favorite spin move, lay false claim to liberals, for the same. They live by hate, can’t stand civil rights, love to be fake christians and hate all other religions! Hate, hate,hate!

timcajun said:
Melissa Thompson says: read the constitution freedom of religion .………………………………………………………… Conservatives have spat on the constitution for years, then in their favorite spin move, lay false claim to liberals, for the same. They live by hate, can’t stand civil rights, love to be fake christians and hate all other religions! Hate, hate,hate!

Correction, Neocons “Liberal’s” and progressives have spit on the constitution not (old school) conservatives and libertarians (classic or true liberals). If you are going to go on a druken rant at least know what you are talking about so you dont sound completely intellectually stunted and further embarrass the “liberal movement” more than it already is.

OxyCon said:
Were we in Afghanistan before the 9-11 attack? No, but Bin Laden was there planning the attack and he and al Queda are still in the region. So what was the provocation for the 911 attack, other then the fact that Bin Laden declared war/jihad on us?

You really need to study our history in the ME. and Afghanistan. Where do you think Bin Laden came from? Nothing we have done justifies 9/11 , but we have interfered there for decades.

OxyCon said:
Also, have we been attacked by al Queda since we destroyed their terrorist base in Afghanistan and continue to hunt them down and kill them on their soil? The sacrifices our soldiers have made and the extra money our taxpayers have paid has, and continues to make us much safer.

That’s assuming a lot not in evidence.
Can you find me any officials in homeland security or intelligence that feel that sure? You may recall a bomb threat in NYC, and shootings at Ft. Hood.

OxyCon said:
So just maybe if some of you anti-war types would actually support the troops in their mission, you could encourage them instead of discouraging them by telling them that what they are doing isn’t a good thing. No?

I support them by not wanting them to die or kill needlessly.

illusive man says:

Correction, Neocons “Liberal’s” and progressives have spit on the constitution not (old school) conservatives and libertarians (classic or true liberals). If you are going to go on a druken rant at least know what you are talking about so you dont sound completely intellectually stunted and further embarrass the “liberal movement” more than it already is.
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As I said hate, hate, hate, with “no” examples! Illegal wire taps, torture, lying to congress about war,no right to hearings, murdering doctors for a legal functions, violation of civil rights,….. spin it illusive, spin it!…. hate, hate hate! I need another drink!

.………………………………………………………………..As I said hate, hate, hate, with “no” examples! Illegal wire taps, torture, lying to congress about war,no right to hearings, murdering doctors for a legal functions, violation of civil rights,….. spin it illusive, spin it!…. hate, hate hate! I need another drink!

Illegal wire taps, still happening. Torture, still happening. lying to congress, still happening. no right to hearings, still happening. murdering doctors for a legal functions, 2 pro abortionists murder an anti abortionist at his work for expressing his right to protest. 2 panther hoodrats armed with billy clubs intimidate voters at the voteing station and the DOJ will do nothing about it. The white house approves government sanctioned molestation by TSA agents at the airport. The government will fine any individual that fails to buy healthcare insurance. Allowing the wars to continue with no leftist protest showing you’re kind are ok with war only as long as a (D) is in front of the helm. But oh no tim you are right only conservatives will allow such things to happen, yes sir no spining on you’re part how right you are.

And I also need a drink.

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illusive man says:

And I also need a drink.
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illusive, It’s hard to stop a war that was handed to you and you may not like a new law, but that doesn’t mean it’s not correct, as for the rest, how did you get from it “doesn’t happen”, to well we may have started it, but your still doing it!
It’s just like “Fox”..” that didn’t happen”…and if it did…. that’s not what we ment, that’s what we were told, that’s not what we said!…. I’m not drunk enough yet!

If you’d like to help raise awareness and denounce these acts of hatred, please sign this petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/congressmen-miller-and-royce-denounce-calls-for-violence-against-fellow-americans

Wow….. right or left, good or bad, like it or not… the first amendment in action. Thank you, Thomas Jefferson (and lesser persons)