FNC’s Executive Vice President of Programming for FOX News Bill Shine tells Mediaite, “FOX News has nothing to do with the rally – we will cover it as a news event alongside other news throughout that day.”

With the two incidents occurring today, it appears Fox News as a whole and certain elements within Fox News are actively trying to distance themselves from the event. We’d imagine as 8/28 approaches there will be more about to say about the relationship and the event as a whole.

Steve, I wouldn’t say they are trying to distance themselves. I think the left is trying to make it seem like this is a Fox event and it’s not, so they are making that clear. And I’m sure there will be alot of media coverage. MSNBC and CNN will be on the lookout for racists and when they find none, they will make up stores that fit their template. I predict they won’t bother covering what the event actually will be, a non-political rally aimed at restoring honor in Washington. But I look forward to be proven wrong.

Interesting comparison, one that Greta has shown great courage to make, seeing that it will upset the Fox base!

How do you know its about restoring honor MichelleF?

I bet the “Professional Left” will have all their toothless, hillbilly, high school drop out, relatives, at the rally, posing as ‘conservatives’, and waving their [racist] signs. Everyone at Glenn’s rally should take pics of the toothless relatives and post them on the net. A bit of research will prove which impostors are related to which “Professional Lefties.”

The bees know more than Greta .

“Glenn Beck should move his 8/28 rally away from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial (comparing it to the Ground Zero Mosque debate)”

A rally lasts for a day, a mosque is forever. Glenn, have your rally as planned.

Name ONE racist thing Glenn Beck has ever said.

One .

( calling someone a racist , isn’t racist , sorry libs )

Socrates69 says:
August 17, 2010 at 3:37 pm Socrates69(Quote)
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How do you know its about restoring honor MichelleF?

He talks about it at length everyday. Try listening to him instead of getting your talking points from Media Matters and Daily Kos and you may learn something you didnt’ know.

Toshiba2 says:
August 17, 2010 at 3:37 pm Toshiba2(Quote)
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Interesting comparison, one that Greta has shown great courage to make, seeing that it will upset the Fox base!

I watch Fox and this doesn’t upset me. Perhaps you shouldn’t ASSUME you know us so well.

Another non story. I never would have expected Fox to cover the whole event. C-Span should.
What is Re-Gretabull talking about? Moving the event, why? This has nothing to do with Muslims, New York, 911 or anything to be sensitive about.
Re-Gretabull is a lib and has always been a lib. She is soooooooo dumb she thinks the prosecuters in the O.J. trial did not prove their case. She couldn’t figure out it was a stupid jury and a stupid judge.

I love that Glenn says he has a way to guarantee the correct # of people will be recorded as showing up for the rally so the lefty media can’t downplay it this time.

Greta, just what is wrong with holding an event at the Lincoln Memorial?

Beck says the purpose of the rally is to recognize our First Amendment rights and honor the service members who fight to protect those freedoms.

You have a problem with that?

BTW, Greta- the rally lasts only 3 hours!

Greta is just looking to piggyback a little for some notariety & ratings…just jumping in the fray to keep her name out there.

“Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should. My view? No mosque at ground zero and Glenn should move his event.”

HAHAHAHAHAHA…..I love it when one righty tells another righty that he has the right but that doesn’t make it right.

“Socrates69 says:
How do you know its about restoring honor MichelleF?

He talks about it at length everyday. Try listening to him instead of getting your talking points from Media Matters and Daily Kos and you may learn something you didnt’ know.”

Careful lady, I do no such thing, in fact I’ve never even been to Daily Kos, and I guarantee I’ve listened to Glenn way more than I’ve ever read Media Matters.

I’m just really curious how you know its about honor. And you answered the question. Because Glenn says it is.

gordonbloyershow said:
Another non story. I never would have expected Fox to cover the whole event. C-Span should.What is Re-Gretabull talking about? Moving the event, why? This has nothing to do with Muslims, New York, 911 or anything to be sensitive about.Re-Gretabull is a lib and has always been a lib. She is soooooooo dumb she thinks the prosecuters in the O.J. trial did not prove their case. She couldn’t figure out it was a stupid jury and a stupid judge.

Greta is a liberal? Another strange comment from our friend, Gordon….

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
HAHAHAHAHAHA…..I love it when one righty tells another righty that he has the right but that doesn’t make it right.

Kind of like how Harry Reid told Barry he was wrong about the mosque, eh?

Moral Equivalency is normally the purview of the PROFESSIONAL LEFT!

Did any of Beck’s fans kill 3000 innocent people in Beck’s name? – Why would anyone object to a freedom rally at the Lincoln Memorial; and why should we give a damn to anyone that would be so ANTI-FREEDOM!?!?

Remember: A Vote for ANY Democrat is a Vote for Imam Obama & his band of Merry Democratic Marxist’s!

Did anyone miss seeing this yesterday? Funny as heck.

http://www.youtube.com/rnc#p/a/u/0/TCG1PD4cirE

This us why FOX is # 1.

You will never see dissenting or negative talk about another colleague on any other network .

If you do , they will be immediately be suspended and a grade school verbal insult attack back and forth would occur. ( See MSNBC )

FOX NEWS -THE PLACE FOR ADULTS

NORBIT said:
Moral Equivalency is normally the purview of the PROFESSIONAL LEFT! Did any of Beck’s fans kill 3000 innocent people in Beck’s name? – Why would anyone object to a freedom rally at the Lincoln Memorial; and why should we give a damn to anyone that would be so ANTI-FREEDOM!?!? Remember: A Vote for ANY Democrat is a Vote for Imam Obama & his band of Merry Democratic Marxist’s!

This is one of the more despicable comments I have seen. While it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, it is full of hatred and invective. It also is rather ignorant, showing no knowledge of the political parties. Shame on you.

BFD, the only problem ReGretabull gave no reason to move the event and neither did YOU?

They weren’t so shy about promoting the original tax day tea parties in 2009.

gordonbloyershow said:
BFD, the only problem ReGretabull gave no reason to move the event and neither did YOU?

TO PROMOTE TOLERANCE WITH THOSE WHO OPPOSE IT HAHAHAHAHA THIS IS SOOOO FUCKING SWEET!!!!11!!!1

alamo2 said:
This is one of the more despicable comments I have seen. While it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, it is full of hatred and invective. It also is rather ignorant, showing no knowledge of the political parties. Shame on you.

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A lot of INVECTIVE there, but as usual from the left – NO SUBSTANCE!
I can’t even tell if you agree or disagree!~

LOL!!!!

I THOUGHT BECK’S RALLY WAS ALL ABOUT UNITY AND TOLERANCE WHY IS HE SO INSENSITIVE!!!!!!

murf said:
FOX NEWS -THE PLACE FOR ADULT DIAPERS

fixed

so one Fox News personality doesn’t approve of what another Fox News personality is doing…and the lefties on here spin that as looking BAD for Fox? to me it proves once again that “Fox” is not some monolithic conservative machine, like MSNBC is a liberal machine.

I wouldn’t have expected Fox to do full coverage of an all-day rally. sorry to disappoint you guys, but I don’t think we’re that disappointed.

A House of Worship or a Symbol of Destruction?
By Abdul Rahman Al-Rashid

US President Barack Obama adopted a difficult position when he supported the building of a mosque near ground zero, where 3,000 US citizens died at the hands of Al-Qaeda terrorists on 11 September 2001.
Despite the fact that the president adopted the correct stance in principle, i.e. the principle of freedom of worship, in my opinion he adopted an unnecessary and unimportant stance, even as far as Muslims are concerned. The mosque is not an issue for Muslims, and they are not bothered by its construction…

The fact is that building a mosque next to the site of the World Trade Center Twin Towers, which were destroyed during the 11 September attacks, is a strange story. This is because the mosque is not an issue for Muslims, and they have not heard of it until the shouting became loud between the supporters and the objectors, which is mostly an argument between non-Muslim US citizens!

I cannot imagine that Muslims want a mosque on this particular site, because it will be turned into an arena for promoters of hatred, and a symbol of those who committed the crime. At the same time, there are no practicing Muslims in the district who need a place of worship, because it is indeed a commercial district…

It is the wrong battle, because originally there was no mosque in order to rebuild it, and there are no practicing Muslims who want a place in which to worship.

http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=2&id=21980

If only dumbass white leftists were as intelligent as Mr. Al-Rashid.

“Azarkhan says:
A House of Worship or a Symbol of Destruction?
By Abdul Rahman Al-Rashid”

Okay Az, but isn’t “At the same time, there are no practicing Muslims in the district who need a place of worship, because it is indeed a commercial district…” contradicted by the fact that the guy who wants to build is an Imam.

Yes this guy makes a good. And yes, he’s actually listening to Non Muslims who are saying don’t build this there. But I think in my humble opinion, thats it about whether or not we allow religious freedom or not. And if the answer is yes, then we seem to sometimes get stuck with bad ideas. If its no, that we can set aside the religion rule whenever we want, or we when associate badness to the adherents of a religion we don’t like and prevent them from practicing their beliefs especially in a place we’d say they’re not allowed to go, then whose next?

point. I left out point.

it’s funny to read that to pose as a conservative you have to be toothless and a dropout hillbilly carrying racist signs…now i now how to recognize a conserative

“Okay Az, but isn’t “At the same time, there are no practicing Muslims in the district who need a place of worship, because it is indeed a commercial district…” contradicted by the fact that the guy who wants to build is an Imam.” Socrates69

Not if the objective of Imam Rauf is to build the mosque near Ground Zero as a provocation and a symbol of Islam triumphant.

“the guy who wants to build is an Imam.”

I wouldn’t be too swayed by a title. Khomeini was an imam, and he had a lot of blood on his hands when he died, as do the current imam’s who rule Iran.

I am so disappointed that fox news won’t be carrying beckerheads shameless self promotion circus, i was looking forward to seeing the right wing freaks and beckerhead make fools of themselves and apparently fox doesn’t want you to see the circus of fools, since beckerhead is theirs,

Asshat Khan could you be more of a scared little girl, “OOOOO the muslims are gointo build a mosque, OOO thats sooo scary, protect me goverment don’t let them do it, be scared of the muslims they are sooo different”
but its OK for the muslims to own fox news that you sit and watch 24 hours , the Saudis love you for that asshat

MichelleF said:
FNC’s Executive Vice President of Programming for FOX News Bill Shine tells Mediaite, “FOX News has nothing to do with the rally – we will cover it as a news event alongside other news throughout that day.” With the two incidents occurring today, it appears Fox News as a whole and certain elements within Fox News are actively trying to distance themselves from the event. We’d imagine as 8/28 approaches there will be more about to say about the relationship and the event as a whole. Steve, I wouldn’t say they are trying to distance themselves. I think the left is trying to make it seem like this is a Fox event and it’s not, so they are making that clear. And I’m sure there will be alot of media coverage. MSNBC and CNN will be on the lookout for racists and when they find none, they will make up stores that fit their template. I predict they won’t bother covering what the event actually will be, a non-political rally aimed at restoring honor in Washington. But I look forward to be proven wrong.

I agree that the event is potentially awesome. I think Glenn will not be racist, and will be quite gracious toward MLK Jr., and the civil rights movement. All eyes will be on him, and he will do well.

gordonbloyershow said:
BFD, the only problem ReGretabull gave no reason to move the event and neither did YOU?

Here is an argument: Beck is routinely offensive to African Americans. Among other things, frequently calling the first black president a racist, a nazi, and a marxist. He is holding an event timed to coincide with the anniversary of the most important event in the history of the black civil rights movement, MLK Jr.’s speech on the same hallowed ground. Isn’t that offensive to blacks in the same way that building an Islamic mosque near ground zero is offensive to the 911 victims?

valkyrie101 said:
Here is an argument: Beck is routinely offensive to African Americans. Among other things, frequently calling the first black president a racist, a nazi, and a marxist. He is holding an event timed to coincide with the anniversary of the most important event in the history of the black civil rights movement, MLK Jr.’s speech on the same hallowed ground. Isn’t that offensive to blacks in the same way that building an Islamic mosque near ground zero is offensive to the 911 victims?

This post by the white guilt filled Valkyrie , is the biggest lie going these days.

Just because Obama is black , doesn’t mean he is above being criticized.

valkyrie101 said:
Among other things, frequently calling the first black president a racist, a nazi, and a marxist.

Val, he would call a white President the same if he said and did the things Obama does and says.

Also, Beck always speaks highly of Dr. King and is trying to show unity in the same way Dr. King did.

i think it is also fair to point out beck dislikes muslims because he thinks they are his enemy as he pointed out to rep. keith elison
it’s funny how more and more he is embracing his belief that he is some great religious leader when deep down he is just an evil man

Val says:

Here is an argument: Beck is routinely offensive to African Americans. Among other things, frequently calling the first black president a racist, a nazi, and a marxist.

Bad example since the left was famous for doing that to Bush. You have NO argument.

murf said:
This post by the white guilt filled Valkyrie , is the biggest lie going these days. Just because Obama is black , doesn’t mean he is above being criticized.

I’m sorry, murf, Gordon asked for a reason. That was the obvious argument. Is it valid? You say no? Fine. No surprise. I can see some similarities to the mosque argument. Of course Glenn has the constitutional right to do his event, but is it appropriate. Given Gelnn’s history of race baiting, isn’t it a little bit like taunting black people?

****APPLAUSE***** Thank you, Greta.

I am sure the Israelis have been watching Barry’s performance re: the mosque and have concluded: “Get the jets ready for Iran. This Bozo is just a sell-out to his own people and us.”

Given Gelnn’s history of race baiting, isn’t it a little bit like taunting black people?

I’m sure you meant to post examples of this.

Hey Val, why don’t you watch Glenn’s special on the civil right’s movement and report back to us the objectionable parts.

Valk, you think Glenn is a race-baiter , only because you yourself view everything through the prism of race.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
fixed.
FOX NEWS -THE PLACE FOR ADULT DIAPERS

Speaking of diapers, BFD, do you change your diaper when you change your mind?

murf said:
Valk, you think Glenn is a race-baiter , only because you yourself view everything through the prism of race.

Right. Glenn is not a race baiter. He is just playin. Glenn is a show. As he has said, its entertainment. He is a professional race baiter. That’s his job.

Ask black people what their opinion is of Beck, and among those who follow such things, the answer is, not much. Personally I disagree with that assessment, as I greatly respect Glenn. Glenn and Rush are breaking things down for black people like white rappers.

valkyrie101 said:
Here is an argument: Beck is routinely offensive to African Americans. Among other things, frequently calling the first black president a racist, a nazi, and a marxist. He is holding an event timed to coincide with the anniversary of the most important event in the history of the black civil rights movement, MLK Jr.’s speech on the same hallowed ground. Isn’t that offensive to blacks in the same way that building an Islamic mosque near ground zero is offensive to the 911 victims?

Criticizing a person with whom he disagrees does not make Beck a race baiter because that person happens to be Black. It should only be offensive to Blacks if the attacks and criticisms are because he is Black. Just like you don’t hate Jews if you dislike Woody Allen for doing his daughter. That’s a stupid and obvious double standard that makes it clear just how hard the left works to use race to attack its enemies. I’m certain that you could find a better argument for your claim than this. I originally suspected you to be arguing this from a more hypothetical standpoint for the sake of argument until you referred to Beck’s “history of race baiting” as if your flimsy ‘reasoning’ made it fact. Since I feel that you normally post with integrity (as much as anyone can be said to do so online), I hope that you will not continue to try to defend your position with indefensible arguments. Thinking like this has been far more poisonous to the Black community than anything Beck has ever said.

valkyrie101 said:
Ask black people what their opinion is of Beck, and among those who follow such things, the answer is, not much. Personally I disagree with that assessment, as I greatly respect Glenn. Glenn and Rush are breaking things down for black people like white rappers.

Most wouldn’t be caught dead listening to Beck or watching Fox, but they will still say they don’t like him even though they have no idea what he says. Maybe if individual thought were encouraged more in the Black community…But if that were the case, then surely Obama wouldn’t have received 98% or so of the Black vote.

I don’t even understand where you’re going with the white rapper thing, so I’ll just leave that alone.

atreyue said:
Criticizing a person with whom he disagrees does not make Beck a race baiter because that person happens to be Black. It should only be offensive to Blacks if the attacks and criticisms are because he is Black. Just like you don’t hate Jews if you dislike Woody Allen for doing his daughter. That’s a stupid and obvious double standard that makes it clear just how hard the left works to use race to attack its enemies. I’m certain that you could find a better argument for your claim than this. I originally suspected you to be arguing this from a more hypothetical standpoint for the sake of argument until you referred to Beck’s “history of race baiting” as if your flimsy ‘reasoning’ made it fact. Since I feel that you normally post with integrity (as much as anyone can be said to do so online), I hope that you will not continue to try to defend your position with indefensible arguments. Thinking like this has been far more poisonous to the Black community than anything Beck has ever said.

The proof is in the putting. Again, what is the black opinion of Beck, and FOX News? Most blacks are offended by Beck and defensive about his rhetoric. FOX had the new Black Panther party on their show over 20 times before they became infamous just a couple months ago. That is over a two year period. Imagine that, using “racists” as talking heads.

atreyue said:
Most wouldn’t be caught dead listening to Beck or watching Fox, but they will still say they don’t like him even though they have no idea what he says. Maybe if individual thought were encouraged more in the Black community…But if that were the case, then surely Obama wouldn’t have received 98% or so of the Black vote. I don’t even understand where you’re going with the white rapper thing, so I’ll just leave that alone.

Satire. And you actually think that if they watched FOX they would improve their minds? A high percentage of FOX viewers believe that the theory of natural selection is a fraud, that man lived on earth with dinosaurs, that God intends to immediately inflict judgement on America, the new Jerusalem, with darkness and suffering, to fullfill a latter day prophesy, that Obama was not born in the U.S., that he is a marxist, an Iman, a witch doctor, a communist, a racist. The poles show that a high percentage of FOX viewers believe Obama might be the anti-christ. LOL

viewers of fox also believe they are ‘fair and balanced’ yet i just heard they gave $1 mil to republican gov. ass.
it was already common knowledge whose side they were on, but they really need to admit for themselves now

valkyrie101 said:
Ask black people what their opinion is of Beck,

Oh yeah- that would certainly prove your point.

Rolls eyes in disbelief.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
It was already common knowledge whose side they were on, but they really need to admit for themselves now

Unlike NBC and MSNBC, ABC and CBS?

ROTFLMAO

“Azarkhan says:
“Okay Az, but isn’t “At the same time, there are no practicing Muslims in the district who need a place of worship, because it is indeed a commercial district…” contradicted by the fact that the guy who wants to build is an Imam.” Socrates69
Not if the objective of Imam Rauf is to build the mosque near Ground Zero as a provocation and a symbol of Islam triumphant.
“the guy who wants to build is an Imam.”
I wouldn’t be too swayed by a title. Khomeini was an imam, and he had a lot of blood on his hands when he died, as do the current imam’s who rule Iran.”

Don’t doubt the blood, but I keep coming back to the fact, that I haven’t seen one religion in this country without blood on its hands or in its history. Even in modern times. And yet we all give tacit approval to the idea that freedom of religion is supported in the constitution.

Fox is probably trying to distance itself incase something goes wrong or over the scrutiny… however if it is an amazing as it has been described Greta and the other decision makers are setting themselves up to look like idiots. I get not covering it, but does Greta really think Glenn would move an event that already has 1,000 buses registered and thousands having paid for hotel rooms and plane tickets already? Sounds like Greta just wanted to cause a stir, get a little attention, and try to get her ratings a little closer to his…

nutsofast when they contribute money to one political side then you can claim they take a side…until then, fox is on the side of the republicans and you can laugh all you want but it is a fact

Valk, that would be a good argument if anybody knew what happened on that date and it was held in reverence. Why don’t you go down to Watts and ask any black person on the street what is the significance of that date. My guess is nine out of ten won’t know what you are talking about.

FYI, news so you can stop lying.

No Charges Against DeLay in Abramoff Inquiry

It’s been a long time since former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) got the chance to come out swinging in public.
But that’s exactly what the feisty former GOP leader did Monday when the Justice Department told his attorneys it closed its inquiry of DeLay after a six year probe.
DeLay was his vintage himself during a telephone conference call with reporters.
“They didn’t have anything,” DeLay boasted. “The case was so weak I never did meet with anyone from the Justice Department and never appeared before the grand jury.”
The FBI began to probe DeLay for his links for former superlobbyist Jack Abramoff. Abramoff did jail time after pleading guilty to fraud and for trying to bribe lawmakers. Former Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH) went to jail for his relationship with Abramoff.
“I never understood why it took so long,” said DeLay.
While in office, DeLay was known for his abrasive style of politics that earned him the moniker The Hammer. But he swung hard at the tactics of others.
“In the new politics, it’s no longer good enough to beat you on policy. They have to completely drown you and put you in prison and destroy your family and reputation and finances and dance on your grave,” DeLay said.
DeLay said he was always confident the feds would clear him of the charges. Yet in a very un-DeLay-esque moment, the former House leader conceded he thinks could have put this to rest long ago.
“Maybe I should have fought harder than I did,” DeLay said wistfully.

Gordon said: Why don’t you go down to Watts and ask any black person on the street what is the significance of that date. My guess is nine out of ten won’t know what you are talking about.
==========================================================================

That is one of the more despicable comments I have heard. Put on your pointed white cape the next time you say something like that, you bigot!!!

judging from his previous comments, i don’t think he would understand why it would be dispicable

gordonbloyershow said:
Valk, that would be a good argument if anybody knew what happened on that date and it was held in reverence. Why don’t you go down to Watts and ask any black person on the street what is the significance of that date. My guess is nine out of ten won’t know what you are talking about. FYI, news so you can stop lying. No Charges Against DeLay in Abramoff Inquiry It’s been a long time since former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) got the chance to come out swinging in public.But that’s exactly what the feisty former GOP leader did Monday when the Justice Department told his attorneys it closed its inquiry of DeLay after a six year probe.DeLay was his vintage himself during a telephone conference call with reporters.“They didn’t have anything,” DeLay boasted. “The case was so weak I never did meet with anyone from the Justice Department and never appeared before the grand jury.”The FBI began to probe DeLay for his links for former superlobbyist Jack Abramoff. Abramoff did jail time after pleading guilty to fraud and for trying to bribe lawmakers. Former Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH) went to jail for his relationship with Abramoff.“I never understood why it took so long,” said DeLay.While in office, DeLay was known for his abrasive style of politics that earned him the moniker The Hammer. But he swung hard at the tactics of others.“In the new politics, it’s no longer good enough to beat you on policy. They have to completely drown you and put you in prison and destroy your family and reputation and finances and dance on your grave,” DeLay said.DeLay said he was always confident the feds would clear him of the charges. Yet in a very un-DeLay-esque moment, the former House leader conceded he thinks could have put this to rest long ago.“Maybe I should have fought harder than I did,” DeLay said wistfully.

As for DeLay, he is welcome to come back. The new republican party has a home for him, right next to Dick Armey. As for the significance of the dream speech date and whether blacks know about it, suffice it to say, enough do to represent a sizable several million people. Why should they not be insulted, by Beck chosing that day, and that place, to present a message that most black people consider belittling to them. Isn’t this Just Beck heckling black people? Don’t get me wrong, I do not think Beck is a bad man, I do not think he is racist, rather, he is a professional chain puller. He forces people to think. Blacks and whites alike. He is a very good satirist. The question is, is that appropriate to present an act in satire, in celebration of MLK’s dream speech? That might properly be considered by black people, who suffered without civil rights long after the civil war, to be an insult to the Dream. Sharpton should be demanding the location be changed. Of course Glenn has the right to hold his event, but is it appropriate to have a man perceived as anti-thetical to black equality give a speech on that date and place. The park service has offered several alternative sites, but Glenn and his team have refused to move it from Lincoln. Isn’t that being insensitive to the thousands of black families who had a loved one discriminated against, beaten, or killed before the advent of civil rights laws, and federal involvement in ending pervasive state sponsored discrimination.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
I THOUGHT BECK’S RALLY WAS ALL ABOUT UNITY AND TOLERANCE WHY IS HE SO INSENSITIVE!!!!!!

To who? Malik Shabazz? Van Jones? Fuck ‘em. Who has some special claim to Lincoln or his legacy?

This event is being permitted by the Park Police and they don’t just let you have a crazy hootenanny, which is good because that doesn’t seem to be the plan.

So, next Saturday, huh?

Why should they not be insulted, by Beck chosing that day, and that place, to present a message that most black people consider belittling to them.

What message is that? Does Alveda King know this? She’s a confirmed speaker, so it could get awkward if she’s just there to be belittled. So, what’s that message, now?

Here’s a prediction: You will hear the “I Have A Dream” speech. I can’t wait to see who delivers it.

Socrates69 said:
I’m just really curious how you know its about honor. And you answered the question. Because Glenn says it is.

Why, yes. He does.

” I don’t even understand where you’re going with the white rapper thing, so I’ll just leave that alone.” atreyue
“Satire.” Valkyrie

I love the way you lie.

Pablo said:
What message is that? Does Alveda King know this? She’s a confirmed speaker, so it could get awkward if she’s just there to be belittled. So, what’s that message, now? Here’s a prediction: You will hear the “I Have A Dream” speech. I can’t wait to see who delivers it.

On that I do not disagree with you. I think Glenn is going to showcase MLK Jr., maybe tear up, and give him credit. I completely expect this event to be outstanding. Now that he has everyone’s attention, he will lead all to the promised land.

Peacefully.

valkyrie101 said:
I think Glenn is going to showcase MLK Jr., maybe tear up, and give him credit.

Really?

Isn’t this Just Beck heckling black people?

That’s weird.

gordonbloyershow said:
Valk, that would be a good argument if anybody knew what happened on that date and it was held in reverence. Why don’t you go down to Watts and ask any black person on the street what is the significance of that date. My guess is nine out of ten won’t know what you are talking about. FYI, news so you can stop lying. No Charges Against DeLay in Abramoff Inquiry It’s been a long time since former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) got the chance to come out swinging in public.But that’s exactly what the feisty former GOP leader did Monday when the Justice Department told his attorneys it closed its inquiry of DeLay after a six year probe.DeLay was his vintage himself during a telephone conference call with reporters.“They didn’t have anything,” DeLay boasted. “The case was so weak I never did meet with anyone from the Justice Department and never appeared before the grand jury.”The FBI began to probe DeLay for his links for former superlobbyist Jack Abramoff. Abramoff did jail time after pleading guilty to fraud and for trying to bribe lawmakers. Former Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH) went to jail for his relationship with Abramoff.“I never understood why it took so long,” said DeLay.While in office, DeLay was known for his abrasive style of politics that earned him the moniker The Hammer. But he swung hard at the tactics of others.“In the new politics, it’s no longer good enough to beat you on policy. They have to completely drown you and put you in prison and destroy your family and reputation and finances and dance on your grave,” DeLay said.DeLay said he was always confident the feds would clear him of the charges. Yet in a very un-DeLay-esque moment, the former House leader conceded he thinks could have put this to rest long ago.“Maybe I should have fought harder than I did,” DeLay said wistfully.

Marceaux, you’re like NSF, peddling the same load of reeking crap all day. The federal investigation never resulted in charges. It was just an investigation. And, Delay wasn’t cleared of anything. The feds are not going to pursue charges. So, we’re in a Bill Ayers-like situation. No charges because the feds can’t get their jobs done.

State charges, in the Travis County District Court are still pending.

Delay hasn’t been cleared of anything.

Please make some effort to be truthful.

WITH LIES & DISTORTIONS
FOX NEWS IS REPLETE
BUT BECK EARNS THE TITLE:
MASTER OF DECEIT!

MichelleF said:
Val says: Here is an argument: Beck is routinely offensive to African Americans. Among other things, frequently calling the first black president a racist, a nazi, and a marxist. Bad example since the left was famous for doing that to Bush. You have NO argument.

I didn’t realize that the left hosted a television show, Michelle-in-Utah. Aren’t you comparing kitty litter to viloins?

WITH LIES & DISTORTIONS
FOX NEWS IS REPLETE
BUT BECK EARNS THE TITLE:
MASTER OF DECEIT!

What, there are no missing White girls? No dead formerly drug-addicted sexually deviant Hollywood has beens? The Drop Out Governor is not gutting a fish? Gretchen O’Van Susteren is left to covering Beckerhead? Watch out, Beckerhead. Greta is a stalker.

WITH LIES & DISTORTIONS
FOX NEWS IS REPLETE
BUT BECK EARNS THE TITLE:
MASTER OF DECEIT!

Pablo said:
Really? That’s weird.

Are you suggesting that Glenn might fake his tears?

valkyrie101 said:
The proof is in the putting. Again, what is the black opinion of Beck, and FOX News? Most blacks are offended by Beck and defensive about his rhetoric. FOX had the new Black Panther party on their show over 20 times before they became infamous just a couple months ago. That is over a two year period. Imagine that, using “racists” as talking heads.

valkyrie101 said:
Satire. And you actually think that if they watched FOX they would improve their minds? A high percentage of FOX viewers believe that the theory of natural selection is a fraud, that man lived on earth with dinosaurs, that God intends to immediately inflict judgement on America, the new Jerusalem, with darkness and suffering, to fullfill a latter day prophesy, that Obama was not born in the U.S., that he is a marxist, an Iman, a witch doctor, a communist, a racist. The poles show that a high percentage of FOX viewers believe Obama might be the anti-christ. LOL

I’m still waiting to hear what Beck has said that should be considered racist and offensive to Blacks. Instead I’m getting talking points against FOX in general as a supposed defense of your attack against Beck in particular. Your deflection is only reinforcing the impression that you are knowingly levying baseless attacks against Beck.

Anyone, Black or otherwise, should listen to what someone says to judge them, instead of letting another person’s opinion serve as judgment. If you’re not listening to what Beck is saying and only going with what other people interpret or distort, then you are not informed. I would tell the same thing to someone who just takes whatever Beck says someone says or thinks as the gospel truth. You can’t just readily accept the distortions that appear to benefit your cause without undermining it in the process.

And I understood your white rapper comment to be satire, I just couldn’t make sense of it without accusing you of race-baiting yourself. So I assumed that I didn’t understand, rather than that you were attempting some callous race-motivated joke, since in my limited experience you don’t really engage in that sort of thing.

The difference is that most Americans are not against Beck having his event at the Lincoln memorial. I don’t get the comparison here.

I guarantee you that CSPAN will cover it in full.

atreyue said:
I’m still waiting to hear what Beck has said that should be considered racist and offensive to Blacks.

Better yet, he’s on the record quite a bit talking about MLK. The Beck, Alveda King and Ted Nugent confab is must see TV.

Tell us, haters. What is the problem, exactly? Who is offended by the 8/28 rally?

valkyrie101 said:
Are you suggesting that Glenn might fake his tears?

Did I say anything remotely approaching that? Are you drunk? Do you have it in you to reconcile your wildly conflicting statements? Or are you just wasting my time?

Pelosi calling for an investigation – not of the Imam’s background or affiliates, not of the mosque’s funding…but of the 65% of Americans protesting the location of the mosque!

This is the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE talking:
http://www.breitbart.tv/pelosi-calls-for-investigation-of-ground-zero-mosque-opposition/#idc-container
————————————————————–

The ENEMIES of American Freedom now go under one banner – DEMOCRATS!

Let me fix that for ya Norbit.

The ENEMIES of American Freedom now go under one banner – ANTI CHOICE AND ANTI GAY MARRIAGE REPUBLICANS.

NO PORN, NO DRUGS, NO FREEDOM TO CHOOSE RELIGION, NO COMMENTS THAT THEY DISAGREE WITH LEFT ON THEIR GOP SENATE YOU TUBE PAGES.

Only Christian whites need apply.

I support the Beckerhead Gathering because I believe in free speech and because I own PEPSICO stock. Cheetos and Mountain Dew stock prices will soar in the days before this Gathering.

EACH AND EV’RY DAY
FOX FANS RAISE THE CALL:
GIVE US RIGHTIST LIES,
OR NOTHING AT ALL!

shootfromthehip said:
Let me fix that for ya Norbit. The ENEMIES of American Freedom now go under one banner – ANTI CHOICE AND ANTI GAY MARRIAGE REPUBLICANS. NO PORN, NO DRUGS, NO FREEDOM TO CHOOSE RELIGION, NO COMMENTS THAT THEY DISAGREE WITH LEFT ON THEIR GOP SENATE YOU TUBE PAGES. Only Christian whites need apply.

Senator Vitter actually likes porn. When he is starring in it.

EACH AND EV’RY DAY
FOX FANS RAISE THE CALL:
GIVE US RIGHTIST LIES,
OR NOTHING AT ALL!

atreyue said:
m still waiting to hear what Beck has said that should be considered racist and offensive to Blacks. Instead I’m getting talking points against FOX in general as a supposed defense of your attack against Beck in particular. Your deflection is only reinforcing the impression that you are knowingly levying baseless attacks against Beck.

I am suggesting a comparison between the mosque issue and Beck’s decision to hold an event on the anniversary of MLK Jr.’s “I have a dream” speech at the Lincoln memorial. In that regard, it doe not matter if Beck has said insulting things in relation to black people. All that matters is if black people feel that he has been insulting, and they do. Similarily, even though the Islamics who wish to build a mosque a couple blocks from ground zero had nothing to do with the 911 attack, they are being told, nevertheless, by the right, that it would be insulting to the vicitims of 911 to build a mosque there. I am not going to repeat my prior posts on this, but I believe I covered the argument that black people may wish to make. If the Beck event is perceived to be insulting to black people who suffered death, beatings, and discrimination, why doesn’t Glenn move it to a different date or a different place? What is the distinction between Glenn’s event, and the mosque issue?

Pablo said:
Did I say anything remotely approaching that? Are you drunk? Do you have it in you to reconcile your wildly conflicting statements? Or are you just wasting my time?

Have a sense of humor, Pablo.

I have clearly made a distinction between my personal view, and the argument that those black people who are insulted by Glenn may wish to make concerning his event. That argument compares, as the title of this thread would indictate, the right wing argument that the mosque should not be built because it insults 911 victims and their families, with the millions of black people who feel insulted by Glenn, for example, calling the first black man to overcome discrimination to become POTUS “a racist”, and routinely arguing against racial equality, and the laws that have been passed to further that. Sure, Glenn has the right to put on his event, but is it appropriate if it insults black people. Why shouldn’t Glenn move it up the road to the Jefferson memorial?

As for my personal belief, I am looking forward to the Glenn event, and as I have been saying repeatedly for weeks, I think Glenn will honor MLK Jr., and even testify to his peaceful work during the civil rights era. And if he does, that might be the first time that half the people at the event have ever honored King. And that is good thing. Very rodeoclown-like, indeed.

Azarkhan said:
” I don’t even understand where you’re going with the white rapper thing, so I’ll just leave that alone.” atreyue“Satire.” Valkyrie I love the way you lie.

The reason what I said about the white rappers is satire is because white people, especially older ones, are offended by black rappers. In this case, it is the black people who may be offended by “white rappers”. Though, my personal opinion is that black rappers and white rappers have something meaningful to say.

There is NOTHING despicable about what I said. The facts are the facts and truth is the truth. Just look at the folks that Leno interviews that don’t even know if Mexico is north or south of the U.S.

8/28 is not the Fourth of July. Face the facts more people know the date Elvis died.

valkyrie101 said:
and routinely arguing against racial equality, and the laws that have been passed to further that.

Quote, please.

I think Glenn will honor MLK Jr., and even testify to his peaceful work during the civil rights era.

Do you know you’re insane, val?

valkyrie101 said:
In that regard, it doe not matter if Beck has said insulting things in relation to black people.

Looney.

All that matters is if black people feel that he has been insulting, and they do.

Toons.

I am not going to repeat my prior posts on this, but I believe I covered the argument that black people may wish to make.

Whack.

If the Beck event is perceived to be insulting to black people who suffered death, beatings, and discrimination, why doesn’t Glenn move it to a different date or a different place?

A-doodle.

What is the distinction between Glenn’s event, and the mosque issue?

Doooooooo!

Pablo said:
Looney. Toons. Whack. A-doodle. Doooooooo!

No surprise you do not understand the issues, pablo. That’s cool, I still appreciate your stuff. :-)

Pablo said:
valkyrie101 said:
In that regard, it doe not matter if Beck has said insulting things in relation to black people.
Looney.

BECK: (imitating Malia) Daddy? Daddy? Daddy, did you plug the hole yet? Daddy?

BECK: (imitating Malia) Why do you hate black people so much?

BECK: “Did you plug the hole yet, daddy?” Is that’s their — that’s the level of their education, that they’re coming to — they’re coming to daddy and saying ‘Daddy, did you plug the hole yet?’ ” Plug the hole!

BECK (imitating Malia) Why, why, why, why, do you still let the polar bears die? Daddy, why do you still let Sarah Palin destroy the environment? Why are — Daddy, why don’t you just put her in some sort of a camp?

Yep, just looney.

gordonbloyershow said:
There is NOTHING despicable about what I said. The facts are the facts and truth is the truth. Just look at the folks that Leno interviews that don’t even know if Mexico is north or south of the U.S. 8/28 is not the Fourth of July. Face the facts more people know the date Elvis died.

And more than 50% of the right wingers, the FOX viewers, do not believe in evolution, do not believe the earth is warming, and do not believe Obama was born in the U.S. A high percentage believe that Obama is the anti-Christ.

gordonbloyershow said:
There is NOTHING despicable about what I said. The facts are the facts and truth is the truth. Just look at the folks that Leno interviews that don’t even know if Mexico is north or south of the U.S. 8/28 is not the Fourth of July. Face the facts more people know the date Elvis died.

Nothing despicable???? Here is what you said, Gordon: “Why don’t you go down to Watts and ask any black person on the street what is the significance of that date. My guess is nine out of ten won’t know what you are talking about.” Now, that is one of the more racist comments I have heard in a LONG time. Why don’t you just come out of the closet and admit it: You don’t like African Americans. You just have a rather crude way of demonstrating it.

alamo2 said:
Nothing despicable???? Here is what you said, Gordon: “Why don’t you go down to Watts and ask any black person on the street what is the significance of that date. My guess is nine out of ten won’t know what you are talking about.” Now, that is one of the more racist comments I have heard in a LONG time.

Sorry, it’s true. You’d get the same result out of white people. That date itself has never been significant. The speech was, but the date wasn’t.

Quick, what’s November 19th? No Googling.

valkyrie101 said:
Yep, just looney.

News flash: Obama is not “black people”. He’s our dopey President.

Pablo said:
Sorry, it’s true. You’d get the same result out of white people. That date itself has never been significant. The speech was, but the date wasn’t. Quick, what’s November 19th? No Googling.

Point taken. But I was referring, not specifically to the data in question, but to the fact that Gordon ONLY mentioned asking any black person, going to Watts. He intentionally did not mention whites, or say, Shaker Heights, OH.

As to November 19? Not sure, except that future President James Garfield was born on that date.

valkyrie101 said:
and routinely arguing against racial equality, and the laws that have been passed to further that.

Hey, are you gonna back that up, val?

Pablo said:
News flash: Obama is not “black people”. He’s our dopey President.

Beck: “This president I think has exposed himself over and over again as a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture….I’m not saying he doesn’t like white people, I’m saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist.”

Black people correctly perceived that statement as an attack on all black people. And that is one reason Beck is not liked by black people. Why should Glenn be permitted to hold a rally on August 28th at Lincoln Memorial given that Glenn so offends African Americans? Sure, he is constitutionally permitted to build his mosque, but is it appropriate?

alamo2 said:
Point taken. But I was referring, not specifically to the data in question, but to the fact that Gordon ONLY mentioned asking any black person, going to Watts. He intentionally did not mention whites, or say, Shaker Heights, OH.

That’s because the question regarded whether black people have some sort of claim to the date. It’s perfectly reasonable to point out that the cast majority of them have no idea what that date is, just as it is reasonable to point out that white people don’t either.

As to November 19? Not sure, except that future President James Garfield was born on that date.

That was the day President Lincoln made the Gettysburg Address, another HUGE moment in American oratory but no one really cares what date it was. The speech mattered, the date didn’t.

**vast majority**

valkyrie101 said:
Black people correctly perceived that statement as an attack on all black people.

Why would they do that when it’s a shot aimed directly at Obama? I didn’t take it personally when people called Bush a racist.

valkyrie101 said:
Why should Glenn be permitted to hold a rally on August 28th at Lincoln Memorial given that Glenn so offends African Americans?

You should take your concerns to the people doing the permitting. That would be the US Park Service.

Park Headquarters
(202) 485-9880

Pablo said:
Hey, are you gonna back that up, val?

Pablo if you are interested in raising your awareness on Beck’s history of attacking notions of racial equality you need to spend some time researching. I don’t do other people’s research. Here is an article that discusses the matter, for example: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/03/22/beck_lewis Here is another: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2010/07/26/long_civil_rights_movement And of course, if you go to http://www.mediamatters.com and search with the key words “Beck” and “Racism” or “Equality”, etc. you will find many links to Glenn speaking on the subject.

Here is another odd Glenn quote about civil rights: “The things that have happened in this country, where it really started to go wrong, was in the lead-up to the Civil War. And it became politicized, and it was all about slavery. Before then, we were moving on the right track.”

Yea, right.

Pablo said:
You should take your concerns to the people doing the permitting. That would be the US Park Service. Park Headquarters(202) 485-9880

Well thanks Pablo, but personally I am looking forward to the Beck event at the Lincoln memorial. I think he will do a good job with it, and show much respect to King, which I think is a good thing for Glenn’s white audience to hear.

Pablo said:
Why would they do that when it’s a shot aimed directly at Obama? I didn’t take it personally when people called Bush a racist.

The first African American to be elected president and Beck routinely calls him a racist, nazi, marxist, traitor, lier, etc., and you think that is not offensive to black people?

valkyrie101 said:
The first African American to be elected president and Beck routinely calls him a racist, nazi, marxist, traitor, lier, etc., and you think that is not offensive to black people?

So, criticizing the President is offensive to black people? What about the black people who criticize Obama? Do they offend themselves?

valkyrie101 said:
Well thanks Pablo, but personally I am looking forward to the Beck event at the Lincoln memorial.

The one that will be offensive to African-Americans? You racist!

valkyrie101 said:
Pablo if you are interested in raising your awareness on Beck’s history of attacking notions of racial equality you need to spend some time researching. I don’t do other people’s research.

That makes sense given that you don’t even do your own research. Neither of those links has a single Beck quote that reflects what you say he routinely argues. Media Matters is a swamp and I’m not wasting my time in it.

Pablo said:
So, criticizing the President is offensive to black people? What about the black people who criticize Obama? Do they offend themselves?

That is not criticism, it is character assassination.

Pablo said:
That makes sense given that you don’t even do your own research. Neither of those links has a single Beck quote that reflects what you say he routinely argues. Media Matters is a swamp and I’m not wasting my time in it.

I gave you a few quotes, haven’t you noticed? But forget about mediamatters, just google “Beck”, “racism”, “quotes”, etc. and you will get some action. Here again is one of the quotes: “The things that have happened in this country, where it really started to go wrong, was in the lead-up to the Civil War. And it became politicized, and it was all about slavery. Before then, we were moving on the right track.”

Moving on the right track. OK.

Greta Thinks Beck Should Move His 8/28 Rally, FNC Will Only Cover As “News Event”

What an incredibly STUPID idea! To suggest that people change their travel plans, that Mr. Beck change the logistics that have been carefully planned to make this event happen. DAMN, I cannot believe Greta is that utterly moronic, but then I learn something new every day.

pyrope said:
Greta Thinks Beck Should Move His 8/28 Rally, FNC Will Only Cover As “News Event” What an incredibly STUPID idea! To suggest that people change their travel plans, that Mr. Beck change the logistics that have been carefully planned to make this event happen. DAMN, I cannot believe Greta is that utterly moronic, but then I learn something new every day.

No need to change the date, just the location. Jefferson would be glad to have you. He has a bigger swimming pool, too.

ChiliPeppersFan says: “i think it is also fair to point out beck dislikes muslims because he thinks they are his enemy as he pointed out to rep. keith elison
it’s funny how more and more he is embracing his belief that he is some great religious leader when deep down he is just an evil man”

He’s not evil; he’s just egregiously stupid. Supremely talented, but stupid beyond the pale. I’m using Eisenhower’s word to describe people like Beck. For details, see: http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/ike.asp

Socrates69 said:
How do you know its about restoring honor MichelleF?

Spoken like an ignorant person.