Whew! Good thing he’s a left-wing “intellectual”, or he might actually get in trouble for this!

If you cut out Weimar Republic analogy, the essence of what Chomsky is saying is not that particularly different from what Bill O’Reilly used to explain Glenn Beck’s show and recent successes.

Enough with the endless Nazi analogies. From both sides. It is getting ridiculous and becoming somewhat offensive. While Beck and company are bad enough, Chomsky is particularly offensive. As someone that grew up with relatives that had serial numbers tattooed on their wrists, I have heard real stories about real Nazis from real victims of the real camps.

Obama, the left wing media, the right wing media and whoever else are not rounding up millions and killing them. It is just plain wrong to analogize a political disagreement with the wanton slaughter of millions and millions.

That said, and as much as I dislike it, the First Amendment protects even stupid, hyperbolic, incendiary speech like the comments from Chomsky, Beck and everyone else these days.

I first read of Chomsky in 03, and his reputation for being a rabid anti-American anti-semite anti-capitalism buffoon were well earned. He’s a talented linguist, maybe the best,

so, flippin, what…

His opinion on current events is worth exactly no more than a single one of ours, of any persons who reads and watches the news. He’s brainnumbingly wrong on virtually any current events subject, the outer most fringe, of the left. He’s there with Robert Fisk, in the land of the luuna-tics.

And here we go, the left painted Hitler stashs on Bush for 8 years, and he then said we were governed by nazi’s and fascists. A hardleft president slips in clothed as a moderate, and when that cover slips, opposition hardens, people get angry at the bait and switch,.. along comes the usual herd of, the right is gona git ya moaners comes to his aid. Now we have a president he kinda likes, and mere opposition to him, is dangerous?

as dangerous as the assaination porn fantasies the hardleft embraced as har har parody? The depictions of our GOP president as Satan, Hitler, and even the anti-Christ, (yeah, the left did it first), these weren’t unheathy signs of an impending doom? I personally am torn about Obama, I did not vote for him, will not, but is he this scheming tyrant to be? or another meant well do good bumbler the left produces so well? A good man, or not? You hear conflicting things about him, I want him to be a god man, even if I will fight his policies as wrong wrong wrong,.. But you see the radicals he puts around himself, the crazy fringe friends, the hidden college work,. and you worry,

a lot,

so, is that proof I’ll jump on the first Volkeswagon round the corner?

sigh,..

I was in the cold war, hate comunists with a high level of zeal, but no, the only government I want, is the one we have, I just want corruption roted out, both parties, and I want answers to questions this president ignores. Hardly the stuff of Kristolnacht. My heroes unlike Dunn’s, are Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, in that order. Nobody wants a strongman, nobody, center, or right wants that,

the left?

that’s the question, isn’t it?

either way, Chomsky, is a fool, who couldn’t stumble on a right idea if it were hammered into stone tablets and slammed across his face. A rabid hater of Israel who has embraced the new nazi’s in Hamas, is the last person who should e questioning our politics.

correction, “I want him to be a GOOD man,” sorry about that, slipped on the o key,..

Note to Chomsky: Which political party is funded by a Nazi Collaborator named Soros? Which party is the party whose programs most closely resemble National Socialism? Which party embraces the worlds socialist murderers, Mao, Stalin, Che, Castro, Chavez, Pol Pot, Khomeni, who have murdered nigh onto 200 million people in the last century? Mr. Chomsky, for someone who claims to be an intellectual and linguist. Well Mr. Chomsky, words have meanings and your words will come back to haunt you. If this country ever decides to rise up and take back power, you will be known and noted, and action shall be taken.

Hey Noam, the Nazi’s were left wing!!! What’s this brain dead little commie referring to? Who’s trying to silence who, you dope? The Dems are going after Fox News because they dare to dig into what the government’s doing on encroaching into our freedoms. What Naomy should be saying is that he’s proud that the Democrats are doing a great job trying to silence opposition via their attempts to restore the “Fairness” (what a joke) Doctrine. Or the back door way of using “fairness” at the community level. Noamy would rather that his red friends run roughshod over us without any resistence. Kinda like his hero’s, Castro and Lenin.

Chomsky is on the ropes! Quick, everyone scream “Nazi”!

noam chomsky is the # 1 America hater in the world. No one should be listening to this creep unless they also hate America and need to get their talking points from him. Calling George W. Bush/ so called Right Wingers Nazis is getting pretty old. If chomsky and/or any other person really knew what the Nazis were all about, he wouldn’t call Bush/Conservatives Nazis and expect to have any credibility. chomsky is someone I would expect to line up on the side of our enemies. The less I hear from him, the better. Don’t like it? Too bad.

ah yes…if you can’t get the good ol “military industrial complex” in your attacks, just go ahead and throw a “NAZI” bomb. hmmm… let’s see. GE, owns NBC/MSNBC, is poised to get tremendous amounts of money if cap/trade is passed. NBC/MSNBC does nothing but bow to the current king of the United States. Other media outlets following same path, with the exception of Fox ‘s Commentary/Opinion group.

See, there are 2 main divisions of Fox News — 1 is a NEWS department, the other is a COMMENTARY/OPINION department. GET IT NOAM?!?!?!?!

The only beer halls in America are those water coolers in the office corner, your local barber, or the local watering hole… and no ONE SINGLE PERSON (ahem, Hitler) is driving the discourse with the quasi Socialist/Communist based executive and congressional wingnuts in DC. SOCIALISM, right Noam? That’s what your all about, right? NAZI’s WERE A SOCIALIST PARTY!!!!

Ahhh Noam, you ol’ wingnut.

oh yeah, and Volkswagon was a GOVERNMENT controlled car manufacturer that was established by Hitler in Germany….and now Obama goes and buys GM with our money…HMMMM.

Isn’t this asshole DEAD yet? Man, yer like a goddamn bad fly that just won’t get outta the freakin’ kitchen. If this country is so goddamned awful, will you please pack your old Commie ass up and GET THE HELL OUT? I, and most of America hate you, hate your guts, hates the very ground your OLD COMMIE ASS walks on. As Michael Savage once famously said (ending his brief TV career): “Choke on a sausage, and die”. Do us a favor, ok, moron? To reiterate, WE HATE YOU, and everything you stand for.

Oh, did I say: “WE HATE YOU”???

Also, just fer grins, I’d like to challenge you, you punk, to any number of rounds in a boxing ring of your choice, you punkass. I’ll bury you with one punch, prick.

“Germany in the 1920s was at the peak of Western civilization. A decade later, it was at the pits of human history” WWWWHHHHAAAATTTTT? NOAM, go read some of that good old history.

Germany just got their asses handed to them after WWI and were in a pit of despair IN THE 1920s, with very low patriotism/national pride/etc. It was this that Hitler used as a foothold to gain power over the Kaiser, and not the “blame it on the jews” rhetoric. that came later when he was already in power.

How much does MIT pay this idiot?

Chomsky is a caricature of a frustrated wantabe-intellectual. An Israeli hater and apologist for Hamas and he has the unmitigated gall to cast conservatives as Hitlerites, what a pathetic hypocrit.

Well Noam,

Who’s party has the mantra that means nothing? Change you can believe in. Sounds nice, means NOTHING.
Who’s party has tuned the letter “O” into an icon by cramming it down our throats? It has literally replaced the presidential seal.
Who’s party relies on subversive political organizations to carry out their agenda?
Who’s party has dozens of unaccountable czars making policy decisions, circumventing the legislator, giving their “chairman” unprecedented powers?
Who’s party marginalizes those who disagree with it?
Who’s party makes vicious character assainations based on lies and misrepresentations?
Who’s party plasters posters and images of a glowing “dear leader” alll over the place for everyone to see?
Who’s party wants to control every aspect of my life?

Who’s party sounds more like nazi’s?

What Chomsky is saying is that without the so called right wing media Obama may take NAZI like actions without the public becoming aware. It is surprising that even Chomsky would think this way but also a welcome event. Thank goodness for the likes of FoxNews.

Mr. Chomsky, we are not Nim Chimpsky types that you can push around like a lab experiment. The American public has legitimate gripes as to the past two administrations, this is not about one political party as they both are worthless as of the past ten to twenty years. We are witnessing real change and we are being left out of any conversation as to our future. The dollar is plummeting, oil is on the rise, gold is rising and this is now happening under OBAMA’s watch. Americans could wake up soon and see our life savings disappear, our Constituional rights disappear, among other things and the mainstream media reports on crimes, yellow roses and calls us HATERS, NAZIS and now this. We are listening to your own words and YOU ARE OUT OF TOUCH. Get out of the way and let progress begin before it is too late.

…and did anyone catch Obama yesterday when he was in New Orleans? Someone in the crowd asked why he couldn’t just “write them a check” for more money in regards to clean up/Katrina. Obama reacted like a wannabe dictator, saying something like – with a chuckle mind you – “Oh, I wish I could..but you know, we’ve got all this stuff in DC like laws and Congress”…

I swear, the man has complete disdain for any hurdle, be it in the constitution or on the airwaves, that is between him and COMPLETE, UNCHECKED POWER….

…and fuck him for not going to Mississippi, where the HARDEST HIT portion of land is re: Katrina… Oh wait, they got their act together and rebuilt their homes/cities already and are NOT WAITING ON A HANDOUT… No votes to be had there, huh O? prick

Considerable similarities exist. But then, one would have to know something about…Naziism – and few here do.
FX appeals to the semi-coherent, dark places of the American mind, as it dwells within its intellectual, hate-filled dungeon. Joe Six-Pack, Joe-the Plumber, Joe-America. Crude, uncouth, uncultured, uneducated, unknowing, unaware. Ignorant people – talking to other…ignorant people. Give em a cell-phone, a computer – and their life is thoroughly complete! The Little People once more. Yup!.

Well, he’s got his analogy correct but he has the players mislabeled. I think Pelosi, Reid and Obama are much more analogous to National Socialists that the freedom loving, small governement craving, tax cutting, constitution defending, right wing, conservative, tea party protestors.

I think Mr. Chomsky needs to get out more.

Now get ready for the Turbowhine “Chomsky called me a nazi!!” It’s not what he said, but it’s what they want to hear. “The memory that comes to my mind — I don’t want to press the analogy too hard, but I think it’s worth th…inking about — is late Weimar Germany. There were people with real grievances, and the Nazis gave them an answer. ‘It’s the fault of the Jews and the Bolsheviks and we’ve got to protect ourselves from them, and that will take care of them.’ And you know what happened…”

It’s about the techniques employed to further the right wing agenda, i.e., the storm trooper technique exercised at town hall meetings.. If it’s over their head and they can’t comprehend that, they can always fall back on the lie “Chomsky called me a nazi!!” Or they can just know the differnece but still use the lie.

Chomsky – in the laughably-transparent manner of his ilk – lunges to compare ideas and behavior that threatens him to the Nazis. If Chomsky really wanted to compare threatening behavior in an intellectually rational manner, he would pick the Russians under Stalin, or the Chinese under Mao. These guys far surpassed anything quantifiable in the horror venue committed by the Nazis – and the Nazis were certainly evil. Stalin and Mao were demonstrably more evil: exponentially-so. But then transparent lightweights like Chomsky never were known for straight thinking.

Great thing ol’ Chomsk’ isn’t a history professor at MIT. Germany of the 1920′s was a disaster. The flower of the nation’s youth, (like the French and British) were destroyed on the Western front. Government was uncertain. Inflation raveged the economy and the triumphant Western Powers, (instead of a Marshall Plan,)humiliated Germany into the backlash of World War Two. This man is a fool. And for him to try to make a serious argument comparing contemporary American conservative radio to Joseph Goebbels’ Nazi radio propoganda is illustrative of his diminutive power of discernment.

werbaz nailed it…Stalin and Mao killed WAAAYYYY MOOORREEE of their own citizens than Hitler did. Hitler’s mistake is he basically only went after one group (Jewish, with a few gypsies, political opponents). Stalin and Mao didn’t target just one group, they went after EVERYONE.

But hey, Che looks really cool on a t-shirt…and the communist manifesto sounds really good on paper…so I’m gonna go get me some “Hope and Change”….. I just hope our country doesn’t change from what our founding fathers architected.

Nachi: I am college educated. I read voraciously, I and my wife each make 6 figures and so do all of our friends who are doctors and lawyers and engineers. We all watch Fox. We are all in opposition to Obama socializing our economy and shredding our constitution.

I’m sorry if we don’t fit your “template” for Fox News viewers but we are the typical member of the Glenn Beck audience. I don’t think you can honestly call us anti-intellectual, hate filled, uncultured, uneducated, unknowing or unaware.

We are fully informed and we are becoming politically active for the first time in our lives. You see, we didn’t pay much attention to that kind of stuff because we were busy studying law and accounting and engineering and medicine. Then we got distracted by building our careers and businesses and actually creating jobs and employing people and building something with our lives. Now we see that that communists are surging. At least they are in Washington. We are now fully awake and we have turned our sights on Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of their anti-American ilk.

When 2010 and 2012 come around, all those Marxists will be wondering what the hell happened. Your days are numbered, commies.

Am I the only one that thinks it’s ironic that he is comparing capitalists to socialists(which I am sure he is) and socialists are the bad-guys?

Bill Adkins: People in a representative republic, trying to have their voices heard in a peaceful, non-violent forum are not the equivalent of storm troopers. You see, storm troopers do the bidding of those in power. They are armed and take away the rights of their victims. The people at the town hall meetings ARE THE VICTIMS. Are you really so stupid you can’t see that?

IT IS THIS SIMPLE…. BILL AYERS/CULT OF OBAMA (see Czars) COULD NOT DESTROY THE PENTAGON ie “the establishment” IN THE 1960s from the outside, SO NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IT FROM THE INSIDE.

Kiley Anderson stated his case, the case of a growing number of us, as to why we – at long last – are rising up to fight the liberal backwash of our society: those who justify any tactic so long as they win (because they are so sure they are right!), who destroy characters who oppose them because they cannot intellectually debate issues, those who have anger issues toward the rest of us mainly due to their own personality or intellectual shortcomings, who bring a most virulent form of narrow mindedness and intolerance to the table. These people, back when, were the ones who burned witches and branded the scarlet letter “A”. Kiley Anderson can add a PhD. Economist academic to his list (that is me) who is fed up with narcissistic and juvenile behavior.

I thought that Chomsky was an historian, but the inability to draw accurate historical analogies or parallels suggests an ignorance of history and current events, and / or a meanness of spirit which disqualifies him from the appellations “historian” and “intellectually honest.” By the way, Chomsky’s not a liberal —- nor are any American Democrats. A liberal subscribes to the perfectly-natural and universally-valid human rights of life, liberty, private property, and pursuit of personal happiness. Chomsky and the Democrats are statists, and your choice of any brand of statism is likely to be sufficently accurate for government purposes —- Nazism, fascism, socialism, communism.

It’s really not that the right wing are anything like Nazi’s, it’s that Chomsky is DEFENDING Nazi’s. Watch the video “Hating what’s right…” at
http://www.silverstatechronicles.com/wordpress/news/evan-sayet-hating-whats
by Evan Sayet. Evan used to be a writer for Bill Maher and the talk is VERY good.

The only party whose level of hate and intolerance for other points of view beside their own Communistic views of the world are the Libnazis like Chomsky and others of his ilk! Elitist idiots who think they know what everybody needs better than the people themselves! Thats why they push for and support government control of everyone from cradle to grave! They want power over the populace with themselves set up as some kind of Socialist priesthood lording their narcissistic “enlightened” New Age views over the supposed “backward” serfs who still have faith in God! How dare these primitives question our superior intellect, do they not understand that intellectually they are all mere insects to us enlightened Leftist intellectuals? This is how these Leftover godless power hungry, control freaks think and their ego is such that they cannot tolerate any lowly person of the Conservative persuasion questioning there “godlike” intellect! Glad day it will be when these hypocrites and their messiah Blobama are relegated to the fringe where they belong with their extremist agenda!

I am sorry, that many people seemed to misinterpret Prof. Chomsky’s words.

He, a critic of the media for about 40+ years, makes a valid point. If you really listen to what he is saying, he is not criticizing the right wing media as opposed to the mainstream media. He is saying that people are asking legitimate questions and no one who should be giving them answers is so doing. Therefore, he says, the ones who are giving answers are those who have stepped into the vacuum filled by a lost media. The answers they are giving are riling the people up, but they are there, because no one else is.

I don’t see anything he is saying that even Limbaugh or Savage would find incorrect. They too say that the media is no longer doing its job. In that sense, he is condemning CNN, ABC, NBC and CBS more than even Limbaugh or Savage.

(Chomsky, a man who despises media owned by multinational war profiteering corporations would never stand shoulder to shoulder with GE owned NBC.)

What is troubling about his comments is that Chomsky is explaining that what was said about Jews in Germany is being said about liberals today. So he is warning against a vicious backlash that will lead us as a nation down to the same holocaust type environment where the victims will be those in power today. I think his words should not be dismissed but listened to and used a catalyst to start asking where we are going as a nation. If we don’t do that then we will end up exactly where Chomsky says we are going and that would be more than tragic.

I thought that Chomsky was an historian, but the inability to draw accurate historical analogies or parallels suggests an ignorance of history and current events, and / or a meanness of spirit which disqualifies him from the appellations “historian” and “intellectually honest.” By the way, Chomsky’s not a liberal —- nor are any American Democrats. A liberal subscribes to the perfectly-natural and universally-valid human rights of life, liberty, private property, and pursuit of personal happiness. Chomsky and the Democrats are statists, and your choice of any brand of statism is likely to be sufficently accurate for government purposes —- Nazism, fascism, socialism, communism.

KIley Anderson, you claim to be ‘college educated’ and ‘a voracious reader’ but your comprehension of history is lacking. The storm troopers were on the outside looking in pushing for power – i.e., putsch. They were the German version of Tea Partiers of their day. “In 1921 Adolf Hitler formed his own private army called Sturm Abteilung (Storm Section). The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents and to protect Hitler from revenge attacks. Captain Ernst Roehm of the Bavarian Army played an important role in recruiting these men, and became the SA’s first leader. ”

Disrupting meetings, kiley, would include shouting so as to cause the speaker to not be heard, intimidating other members of the audience, pushing, shoving, cursing – see? Stormtroopers. I suggest you read some more – try getting away from the illustrated books,the ones with balloons for conversation.

For Keeva, It is important to understand what happened (and how) WAY BEFORE those millions were killed so that it can never happen again (the late 20′s and early 30′s).

For all you left wing ideologues, more than a little of the support that Hitler received in his rise to power came from the Jews themselves. He promised to corral the communist menace and provide a docile, unionless, work force. Needless to say, this didn’t work out for the Jews, or anybody else for that matter. The point, however, is that no good will come from mistaking the ends with the means. Running roughshod over conservatives to get your way will inevitably come back to bite you you-know-where.

Our “free” health care is just one example to be made in the future of the failure of socialism to actually work. And please don’t compare the US to the homogeneous and docile Scandanavian countries.

Chomsky and his ilk make me sick.
I don’t particularly lean towards any of the networks,but to label Fox as Nazi’s is disgusting. Chomsky writes books, Chomsky comments. Well, Mr. Chomsky, I’m educated as well, and my education tells me that you need therapy. Probably medication and a lot of time on the couch with a team of therapists. Your rants against this country do not aid in discourse, rather they detract from it.
Everything you expell from your mouth reeks of solopsism and self aggrandizement.
Mr. Chomsky, just because you command an ability to speak does not mean that what you say makes sense.
Since Mr. Chomsky is so enamored with the NAZI era, let me remind him and all others that Hitler also had a lot to say, but he FAILED as a military tactician, FAILED as a Chancellor, and ultimately he FAILED as a human being.
I submit that Mr. Chomsky has similar problems of allowing his EGO to get in the way of critical analysis of what is going on in society today.
Yes, I’m for Michael Savage: Language, Borders, Culture. I’m pro-Israel, pro-America.
I’m also for Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
What, am I a NAZI too, Mr. Chomsky?
Go SIT ON IT, Mr. Chomsky!

Bill – uhhh, “German version of Tea Parties”? uhhh…no. If you want to draw a comparison to “Storm Troopers”, you need only look to the SEIU or maybe the black panthers who stood, armed with clubs, in front of polling places in 08.

My father is a very well educated Nazi/Hitler historian and I was reading Mein Kampf in 7th grade. You got yer wires crossed.

…and there were no pictures in the copy of Mein Kampf that I had.

To try and rationally talk with or exchange ideas for consensus and civilization with intellectuals (persons with self proclaimed intelligence lacking common sense) is a waste. Particularly when we know they lie and because they would lose in the arena of ideas and warfare. (They would disregard me and this comment as false because what I just wrote is not a well structured sentence and it runs on) Losers!
Take it from me, man will always solve his problems the same way; has for thousands of years. These people think we are dump to them. So, we, the fooled, enslaved and unemployed will no longer attempt to resolve this with language.
I believe and will defend the first sentence of the preamble to the Constitution and you and others like you – you little gnome, don’t – I look forward to watching the trials, sentencing and conclusion of each of YOU people. It’s coming. You are insulting to every person, especially Americans who fought for this country.
They = You People.
Why are all these people so scared? What have they done to warrant the concern? What is being done to the America / American people that they attempt to distract us so much? YOU PEOPLE are dumb and dangerous – it is scary. Just when you think dangerous liberals can be marginalized by voting alone – you go and say something stupid. Great Job!

Lastly – there is no way in God’s creation these idiots can be doing this kind of crazy without real-enemies of our state assisting is some way – Trust ME! – it’s too dangerous for feel go about yourself do-gooder liberals.
Darwin now, let God sort it out later.

BillAdkins,
Ernst Rohm was also a homosexual who was executed by Hitler during the “Night of the long knives”. sounds right wing to me.

Opinions are like assholes. Mr. Chomsky has a particularly smelly one.

I love these people, like Chomsky, who think that we are all too stupid to conduct our affairs without an “answer” from the elites. I’ll make my own observations and draw my own conclusions without the need for half-baked analogies from the likes of Chomsky. I’ve lived my own life for the last 62 years without any sense of ” real grievances”, or the need to have someone explain hat is really happening ” really happening to” to me.
I think that is the crux of the issue between left and right in this country. People who do not feel powerless scare the left wing elites, hence the need for “Nazi” type analogies. Their perception is always distorted by the prism of victimazation.

> Now we see that that communists are surging.

Sigh. Despite your college education and six figures, you’re still easily manipulated. You’re basically brainwashed if you believe something like that. There is no resurgence of any communism in this country. Its sad to see someone of your personal success easily be manipulated to believe in a completely manufactured enemy by a simple jester on TV.

>And please don’t compare the US to the homogeneous and docile Scandanavian countries.

Your view of Scandinavia is incredibly archaic and bigoted. They’re not the only ones in the world who have universal health care – you know (psst…it’s actually every single industrial country in the world *except* the United States).

It’s clear that when you listen to self-imiportant communists like this, they always accuse others of doing or being exactly what they themselves know THEY’RE doing.

Liberals have no conscience, this clown included.

Bill Adkins: The only people who were pushing and attacking others were the left wing thugs such as SEIU goons. The right wing protestors were non-violent. As for shouting, they had to shout because they were being ignored. The politicians weren’t listening, and they still weren’t listening.

As for you love of Nazi history. When one mentions “Storm Troopers” people naturally think of Hitler’s SS. The people who rounded up and killed the Jews.

The biggest difference here though is, the tea party protestors and the town hall meeting protestors are the good guys. The people who are defending the US Constitution.

Obama, Reid, Pelosi, SEIU, Acorn, pretty much all unions and left wing thugs are the bad guys.

If you are a Democrat you are the enemy of America. We will not let you destory our great country. We are now on to you and your Marxist ways and we will put an end to it by any means necessary. YOU ARE THE ENEMY.

>>There is no resurgence of any communism in this country.

Yeah, that “Mao is my favorite philosopher” comment from a high White House employee doesn’t mean a thing. Or Van Jones being a self-admitted commie.

Yeah, you’re right. (Please.)

M: You are the one who is brainwashed. Are you not aware of the Marxists and fans of Mao and Castro and Che Guevara and the self avowed communists that are part of this administration? Do the names Van Jones, or Anita Dunne mean anything to you?

Yes Communists are in the Whitehouse and that is not an exageration. If you don’t see it, you too are part of the problem.

m,
I guess you didn’t understand the point I was making about the Scandanavian countries. They are homogeneous and docile. they take whatever happens in stride and accept government control. I guess it works for them. It just wouldn’t for me personally and given the diversity of the US I don’t think it will work for us. How would this opinion be archaic? did you just learn the word and want to throw it in there. How would it be bigoted? Our family has relatives in Sweden, from which my grandmother came, and they are as I described.

As I was told as a child, “If everybody jumped off the bridge would you?”. to bring it up to speed for all of you from Yorba Linda, just because someone else does something stupid is no reason to do it yourself. Finally, where do these people come when they need the real cutting edge technology? You guessed it, America.

Bill Adkins: WOW! so the killing of a homosexual means Hitler and the Nazis were right wingers? You are truly out of your freaking mind.

pffttt… “every single industrial country in the world has Universal Health Care.” Well, woop-dee-doo! The United States is the single, last beacon of light that draws people from ALL POINTS OF THE GLOBE…not France, etc.

“docile” scandanavian countries.. Yeah, they are docile cuz the US carries the weight of Global security/peace thank you very much… oh, and we also subsidize things like pharma/drug costs due to price controls within those wonderful little Universal Health Care countries.

Let’s do an academic exercise in history and further discuss the meaning of the word “Nazi”

Nazis were National Socialists who had a set agenda for the nationalization of the economically weak German Weimar Republic. Hitler officially came into power in January 1933. Obama was elected in 2008 and came to power in January 2009:

Nazis utilized the ancient symbol the swastika for their emblem = Obama adopted a stylized “O” as his symbol

Hitler had the Brownshirts who roughed up opposition= Obama has Acorn and the Black Panthers who have roughed up voters (Do a Youtube search)

Time Magazine Man of the Year 1938: Adolf Hitler = Time Magazine Person of the Year 2008: Barack Obama

Hitler had a narcissistic personality = Obama has a narcissistic personality

Hitler nationalized BMW, Daimler Benz, etc.= Obama nationalized General Motors

Hitler socialized medicine= Obama is pushing for socialized medicine

Hitler had the Holocaust and concentration camps= Obama supports abortion and Planned Parenthood, America’s Holocaust

Hitler confiscated guns= Eric Holder Obama’s Attorney General has an ardent anti-gun agenda.

These are just several similarities. So Mr. Communist, Noam Choamsky’s leftists and the Obama cult are more like the Nazis. Let the facts not the empty rhetoric speak for itself. Dissent was patriotic during the Bush years but suddenly those who dare to dissent are labeled “hate mongers” and Nazis. Chomsky and the leftists are pathetic turds.

babbleroiuser,

Do you suppose that BillAdkins has ever read “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”?

Just wondering.

Noam is a “Chocolate Starfish” from way back, no matter what illusion he brandishes and calls true, real or valid – the opposite can rightly be regarded as an unmistakable fact. Chomsky is noted for such verbal moments of brilliance as: ” I think that anyone’s political ideas or their ideas of social organization must be rooted ultimately in some concept of human nature and human needs.” That’s a classic Noam-ism, right there. Because only a powdered donut hippie flake would even need to insert the ‘human nature and human needs’ construct – as if he were some privileged divine agent addressing a sub-class of lesser mortals. It’s for crap like that that I can only say about him that he’s a parody of all that worthless leftist moral inversion that should have been ground to dust in, oh, say 1969.

Chomsky is a very dangerous and deceptive person. Beware of the slick analogies that he uses. Comparing me, an American who believes in fundamental Constitutional truths, as being akin to Nazis is repulsive. Note the dialogue used by Chomsky and similar extreme people, it is most often diversionary and focused intentionally away from truth. This is just one of the tactics used by those who seek power, those who wish to impose dictatorial control, those needing to grow their egos endlessly and without any concern for the rights and freedoms of others. Be aware of Chomsky and watch for similar tactics from others of the same ilk.

rnagel,

I’m sure Bill has read/knows more about any number of topics related to history, politics, etc than most people in the US. and I’m sure Bill knows what is best for other people, as most people in the US are dumb, patriotic, gun-toting rednecks that aren’t capable of making decisions for themselves.

..and I’m sure Bill is in it for “the greater good” or “for the children”.

But I doubt Bill can put a 5 group of. 223 at 100 yards tighter than I can.

The only danger Chomsky presents is to the poor saps at MIT and their parent’s check books. Private sector has no need for folks like him.

Do any of those “Chomsky” types have REAL jobs? Nope, they can’t cut it in the real world.

If Mr Chomsky was as educated as he claime, he would understand that NAZI was the shortened name of the party which translated to “National SOCIALIST Workers Party”. And as any educated person knows, SOCIALISTS ARE LEFT WINGERS, not Conservatives.. Could it be he was referring to himself by accident?

I don’t agree with Chomsky but always found him interesting. So, I’m disappointed with comments linking rightwingers with Nazis. Nazis, or National Socialists, are radical leftwingers. Rightwingers are those who want to preserve the status quo. Fascism and Marxism were both revolutionary movements that wanted to create new societies from the ground up. Marxists had their New Soviet Man and National Socialists had their Aryan superman.

It is also the case that in 1933 Germany was going to go in one of two directions: Communist or fascist. Germans chose fascism for several reasons, the most important of which is that the fascists were actually less bigoted. Communists appealed only to the working class and eschewed society’s other classes. Fascism welcomed the middle classes as well as the working classes as they eschewed the very idea of class in favor of a unified nationalism.

So, events in the Weimar Republic actually have little bearing on the politics of today. Today we are governed by Politically Correct hostile elites who act against the best interests of both the middle and working classes.

As far as the Night of the Long Knives making fascists rightwingers, that argument doesn’t make a bit of sense. Hitler butchered about ten million people and communists about a hundred million. While we rarely hear about it, the left is far more barbarous than the right. The right tends to be concerned only with making money.

Chomsky is either going senile or he’s playing us for fools.

babblerouser,
Don’t forget the Bible thumping. Can’t forget that.

Ever wonder what these guys would do on a desert island?

Dunnyveg,
The Germans didn’t chose fascism. It was thrust upon them after Hitler connived his way to the top. As a matter of fact in the previous election the NSDAP received less votes than in the previous election. They were losing their popularity and were never a majority party. After Hitler took over and started an ambitious program of public works (can you spell stimulus?) he became more popular for the short term. My German grandfather used to get letters from home bragging about how there was full employment in Germany and he couldn’t believe it. In the long term he had to finance the “stimulus” with funds taken from the rich. In this case that included the Jews, rich or poor. If you wanted to get away from the pogrom you had to leave your wealth behind. Many did, most didn’t.

Good to know we must be “led to understand what’s really happening” to us. And guess who wants to “lead” us. What an arrogant s.o.b. This Nazi comparison thing is pure desperation. Seriously, how do these people get media attention? Oh, yeah. . .

Democrats have frequently denounced the Republicans as Nazis due to Republican attempts to control the democrat runaway federal spending habits as well as Republican efforts trying to thwart relentless democrat efforts to increase government involvement in the everyday lives of individuals’. What an extraordinarily ironic comment to be made. Let us overlay a historical perspective and compare it today’s democrat elite.

First of all, the term, “Nazi” was gutter slang for the verb “to nationalize”. The Bider-Mienhoff gang gave themselves this moniker during their early struggles. The official title of the Nazi Party was “The National Socialist Workers Party of Germany”. Hitler and the Brown shirts advocated the nationalization of EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, TRANSPORTATION, NATIONAL RESOURCES MANUFACTURING, DISTRIBUTION, and LAW ENFORCEMENT.

Hitler came to power by turning the working class, unemployed, and academic elite against the conservative republic. After der fuhrer’s election ceased being a political conspiracy it was transformed into a fashionable social phenomenon, party membership was especially popular with educators, bureaucrats, and the press. Being a Nazi was politically correct. They called themselves “The Children of the New Age of World Order” and looked down their noses at everyone else. As Hitler accrued more power, he referred to his critics as “The Dark Forces of Anarchy and Hatred”. Anyone who questioned Nazi high-handedness in the German press was branded a “Conservative Reactionary”. Joseph Goebbels, minister of communications, proclaimed a “New World Order”.

The Nazi reign of terror began with false news reports on the Jews, Bohemians and Gypsies who were said to be arming themselves to overthrow the “New World Order” and Hitler demanded that all good people register their guns so that they wouldn’t fall into the hands of “terrorists and madmen”. Right wing fanatics of the “Old Order” who protested firearms registration were arrested by the S.S. and put in jail for “fomenting hatred against the Government of the German people”.

Then the Reichstag (government building) was blown up and Hitler ram-rodded an “Emergency Anti-Terrorist Act” through Parliament that gave the Gestapo extraordinary powers. The leader then declared that for the well-being of the German people, all private firearms were to be confiscated by the Gestapo and the Wermotten (federal law enforcement and military). German citizens, who refused to surrender their guns when the “jack-boots” (Gestapo) came calling, were murdered in their homes. By the way, the Gestapo was the federal marshals’ service of the Third Reich. The S.W.A.T. team was invented and perfected by the Gestapo to break into the homes of the enemies of the German people.

When the Policia Bewakken, or local police, refused to take away guns from townsfolk, they themselves were disarmed and dragged out into the street and shot to death by the S.A. and the S.S. Those were Nazi versions of the B.A.T.F. and the F.B.I. When several local ministers spoke out against these atrocities, they were imprisoned and never seen again.

The Gestapo began to confiscate and seize the homes, businesses, bank accounts, and personal belongings of wealthy conservative citizens who had prospered in the old Republic. Pamphleteers who urged revolt against the Nazis were shot on site by national law enforcement and the military. Gypsies and Jews were detained and sent to labor camps. Mountain roads throughout central Europe were closed to prevent the escape of fugitives into the wilderness, and to prevent the movement and concealment of partisan resistance fighters.

Public schools rewrote history and Hitler youth groups taught the children to report their parents to their teachers for anti-Nazi remarks. Such parents disappeared. Pagan animism became the state religion of the Third Reich and Christians were widely condemned as “right wing fanatics.”

Millions of books were burned first, then people. Millions of them burned in huge ovens after they were first gassed to death. Unmarried women were paid large sums of money to have babies out of wedlock and then given medals for it. Evil was declared as being good, and good was condemned as being evil. World Order was coming and the German people were going to be the “peacekeepers.”

Yes, indeed, Nazis were NOT Republicans, nor “right wing”, neither were they “patriots” nor “militias.”

Nazis…well ….they turned out to be Socialist monsters…all the while smiling and claiming to be implementing “change” for the “betterment” of society.

what they would do on a desert island?? hmm, i guess they would establish the wonderful, utopian society that has been beyond their grasp for all these years. But they would need to learn how to hunt, fish, and provide shelter for themselves first…. welp, looks like they’d be dead within 2 weeks.

unless they know how to kill a fish with a book…or engage in a thoughtful discussion that would magically provide shelter….or pontificate on the virtues of “equality”.

I guess if anyone would know a National Socialist it would be Chomsky. I agree with him that people need answers. The problem is, if the Left tells the truth, as Robert Reich did at Berkley, the country will reject them because America is not a center-left country, it is still more conservative than most liberals will admit.

Er……..doesn’t Mr. Chomsky realize that Michael Savage is also Jewish? This name calling, on both sides ought to stop. It is not edifying America. The Left verses the Right paradigm seems to be escalating. So stop already. There is a major divide in this country and though Obama promised to bridge the gap, his administration seems to be intensifying divisive discussion. The media is fomenting the divisions. Don’t quote these people. Let it be.

“Chomsky warned that if Americans weren’t properly educated about what was really happening to them, they could be in for a repeat of the Nazi takeover of Germany in the 1930s.”

For once, Chomsky is right. An awful education system is a huge reason why people grow up knowing nothing of the Constitution, our history, the greatness of capitalism, and leads them to elect Marxist slime like the Constitution-trashing, Bill of Rights destroying, radical fascists leading the country and running it into the toilet.

Can Noam think of any recent presidents who have had school children singing hymns to them? And who have been revered by most of the media?

It never ceases to amaze me how often left wing liberals condemn conservatives as being either racist or nazi-like or both. These people really are lost for ideas on how best to next manipulate you so they fall back on the same one race baiting, scare tactics…whats worse, they don’t know their hostory. How many conservative marches or gatherings have lead to riot or damage even to public or private property? How many town halls lead to violence perpetrated against liberals or democratic supporters? The answer is NONE! Turn that around…how many liberal marches or gatherings led to riot or damage? The most recent was in Pittsburge for the G-10 conference, the riot police had to use pepper spray in an attempt to disperse rioters. Those same rioters caused $50.000 in damage to public and private property. Didn’t hear about that? Not surprised. How many town halls lead to violence perpetrated against republicans or conservatives? Well, the most disgusting and disturbing is a liberal wacko BITING SOMEONES FINGER OFF! Really? Probably didnt hear about that either. What kind of sickness do you have to have that this behavior is even tolerated in our society? Old people voicing there opinions in town halls are being abused both verbally and physically by union thugs. But this liberal calls conservatives nazi-like for peacefully protesting and dissenting against the government. WHICH IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON. FREEDOM AND FREEDOM OF SPEACH. It would be funny if it wasnt so typically overplayed by the liberals. Yet now we have this president out there in an all out war against fox news. Trying to shut down a voice. This is the same man that swore an oath to uphold the constitution, and how he is trying to ciolate that oath. I would suggest that this chompsky fellow and all you liberals out there look into history, especially of the brownshirts and other nazi thugs. It’s chilling the similarities, but those similarities cannot be attributed to conservatives. I would suggest that you take a good long look at what you are supporting. Because if you think they will stop at conservatives, then you are as blind and foolish as the german people were prior to WWII.

I do not see any “name calling” from those that value freedom and the framework that this country was founded on… They are only calling “A spade, A spade”.(don’t go there) Liberals don’t want to be called liberals, they want to be called “progressives”, or any group-label that would not show them to be the socialists and communists they are, and that they are based on their own words and actions.

Any freedom loving INDIVIDUAL in the US simply wants to be called one of two things: 1. American or 2. Their first or last name.

I don’t remember the outrage coming from this old Anti-American Leftist NUTWAD when his team was using the N word (NAZI) toward George W. Bush and his administration. STFU and take it, Chomsky. There’s more where that came from!

Nagel, it’s not as simple as what you make things out to be. Granted, Hitler did receive fewer votes in 1933 than in the previous election. But he was still THE contender, with the communists running right behind. Hitler got his way because the Germans were rightly scared to death of the communists. The PC media completely ignores this, but in 1931-32 Stalin and his Bolsheviks killed between six and ten million Ukrainians. The Germans were in a panic to keep the communists out of power. This, along with a serious depression, propelled Hitler into power. The Bolsheviks wiped out an entire class called the kulaks, and Germans didn’t want the same thing happening to them.

You are right about stimulus being what got Germany out of the depression. At first it was infrastructure projects, but by the mid thirties he was concentrating on his military.

I can highly recommend a historian named Ian Kershaw. He has written extensively on the reaction of ordinary Germans to the National Socialists. Ordinary Germans didn’t like Jews, but that doesn’t mean they wanted anything bad to happen to them. In 1934 the Nazis tried to organize a boycott of Jewish businesses. It was very unpopular and fell flat. It was the same with Kristalnacht in 1938.

Hitler’s genius was thus: When German authorities queried a woman on what she thought about Krystalnacht, she said it was a shame the Fuehrer didn’t know; he would’ve put a stop to it. In other words, the National Socialist party took the heat when things went wrong, allowing Hitler to appear to be above the fray.

NOW HEAR THIS – A SKUNK SMELLS HIS OWN HOLE FIRST!!

READ BETWEEN THE LINES!

Noam Chomsky, Son of an Atheist family,an influential linguist and liberal activist, he wrote
a lot of lyric poems none ever published. He had several menial jobs to support himself . Influenced by pacifist and anarchist George Soro’s, he moved to socialism

Paul Josef Goebbels: Son of a Rhenish petty bourgeois Atheist family, Paul Josef
Goebbels got a PhD in Literature (Philology) from Heidelberg University in 1921. he wrote
a romantic autobiographical novel “Michael”, several plays and a lot of lyric poems never of them ever published. He had several menial jobs to support himself . Influenced by pacifist and anarchist Richard Flisges, he moved to socialism

In my previous life of 45 years as a Boston Resident, I can personally attest to the dysfunctional , moronic, despicable actions of this FOOL on numerous occasions. ! Chomsky hates everyone and anyone including himself, his country, all REAL Americans and his own Mother? He hangs out in the Communist Republic of Cambridge, Ma., where anyone who has the audacity to pursue and attempt success in the America we all know and love and who actually wants to keep what they earned is looked upon a a right wing Nazi who should be put to death . He is a mindless, pot smoking, sociopath with a gift to sway people through his speeches. Similar to other notables, RE: C.Manson, Paul Josef Goebbels, and Rahm Emanuele ( the most dangerous of all)

Deja Vu

Rahm Emmanuel ? Noam Chomsky ? or

Captain Ernst Roehm, a brilliant soldier during WWI, was in 1918 a prominent leader of the Liberal District Command: he served as liaison between the District Command and the German industrialists who were directly funding the District Command to help it fight communism. Captain Roehm and many other members of the District Command were members of a mystical organization known as the ‘Thule Society’/ Volunteer milita Army and it preached the coming of a Hope & Change ‘Messiah’ who would lead Germany to glory and a new One World civilization. The Thule group was financed by some of the very same industrialists who supported the liberal District Command.

He met Adolf Hitler in 1919 when Hitler was spying for the GHC and he helped to launch Hitler’s political career. Roehm organized the storm troops , the militia of the National Socialist party. The SA’s role in the National Socialist movement provoked conflict between Roehm and Hitler, who wanted the SA to be an instrument of the Liberal party, rather than Roehm’s private army. Roehm was imprisoned briefly
for his participation in the abortive beer-hall putsch (1923). After his release conflict with Hitler flared again, and Roehm resigned (Apr., 1925) his party posts.

Although President Bush was not the brightest light bulb in economics and unfortunately refused to take up a “drag down, kick them in the crotch” battle with ALL the members of congress (both Parties) who sold us down the road economically, Compared to what is running the country today both Congressional Branch & Executive Branch, He should have received the “Nobel Prize for Rocket Science” compared to Pelosi, Reid. and NoBama. A a now Dallas resident I can tell you a few things from a personal prospective about GW. He is a sincere, good person who says it the way it is. I don’t agree with 40% of his past political decisions, but he is a guy that you could call at 10:00pm ,tell him you have a flat tire, he would be there to help you on 30 minutes… A real person and someone you could call a friend. Most politicians would either never take your call or would offer to call a garage for you unless there was something in it for them.

I am not defending the Bush presidency but only noting that “IF YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE,DON’T THROW ROCKS”

Mr. Chomsky spews hatred and is continuing the trash talk of the left. Don’t forget Mr. Chomsky this is not about party anymore, it is about taking back America. I agree that a larger amount elected the current majority but that gives them no rights to ignore the Constitution.

This coming from me, I am not Jewish, Polish, German but I can not even imagine the HELL on Earth that many Americans ancestors dealt with under the German reign of terror. Mao TseTsung provided the same actions except his extermination included more people.

Read the following quotes and you might understand the anger and frustration with the American not “Nazi” people.

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.” Thomas Jefferson

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” Thomas Jefferson

I’d say we are getting close to the second quote and you compare the right wing media to “Nazis”. How dare you?

Bill Adkins says:
October 16, 2009 at 3:28 pm
” The storm troopers … were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents and to protect Hitler from revenge attacks…Disrupting meetings…would include shouting so as to cause the speaker to not be heard, intimidating other members of the audience, pushing, shoving, cursing – see? Stormtroopers…”

It amazes me how someone with the information RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS FACE he doesn’t see it. Bill, the tea parties and people at the town hall meetings WERE THE POLITICAL OPPONENTS. The SEIU thugs WERE THE ONES “shouting so as to cause the speaker to not be heard, intimidating other members of the audience, pushing, shoving, cursing”. Have you not seen the video? Have you not seen WHO was violently “escorted out” of the meetings? It sickens me how twisted some people minds are, or how unable they are to see what is right in front of there faces. These type of people honestly must have a mental disease that they so blindly try to ascribe every evil to the ones that do good. Hitler though he was doing good for Germany, too. But he was a sick, sick man. So too, Bill, are you.

Noam may want to revisit actual history before he throws around the “Nazi” word.

Noam Chomsky? He sounds more like Nim Chimpsky.

To Rbran90

Your comments are very profound and enlightening.

Read “Rise of the Fourth Reich” and then continue to speak about the Bush family. I wish that the Prescott Bush and Hitler connection didn’t exist but alas it more than likely was. I believe that George W Bush has good intentions and that the current administration is leaving us out there in the wind.

I also am frightened at the number of people surrounding the current President that have a far left (Marxist, Socialist, Communist, whatever you call it) agenda. Currently there seems to be nothing to keep them in check and they are working on many different fronts to change the country in which many Americans died to keep free.

Newsflash, Noam: Any definition of National Socialism contains nationalizing industries. Something your for, not conservatives.

“rnagel says:
October 16, 2009 at 4:02 pm
babbleroiuser,

Do you suppose that BillAdkins has ever read “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”?

Just wondering.”

Read it when I was 10 years old. Summa Cum Laude, History. Wanna talk?

“babblerouser says:
October 16, 2009 at 4:12 pm
But I doubt Bill can put a 5 group of. 223 at 100 yards tighter than I can.”

With my Ruger mini-14 ormy M-4? I guess we could try it with my Springfiled Trapdoor. Could save money, use one of my 10/22s.

This man, and any of you who believe him, is an idiot (and always has been). If you know anything about what happened with the rise of the Nazis, then you know that the parallels are much more algined with what Obama and the Left are doing than anything done by the Right. Manufacturing a crisis; government solutions; silencing opposition; creating class and segment warfare. To Keeva, who says enough of these comparisons, I say this: I have a right to make such comparisons and to warn of what I see coming from THIS disgusting administration. The Nazis in their early years were not operating the concentration camps; they were consolidating their power and eliminating opposition – just like Obama. The camps did not begin until much later. It is laughable to recall the Left’s complaints that Bush was Hitler and Bush was like a Nazi, yet they stand silent as the Obama administration acts more like the Nazis than Bush ever did. If you doubt this, then don’t call me names, but get off your lazy butt and do some studying on your own. The intimidation in this country comes not from the Right, but from the Left, who cannot defend their ideas and must resort to bullying, intimidation, name-calling, and elimination and destruction of political opponents. Criticize Obama and you are labeled a racist; it doesn’t matter if there is merit behind your critique, you are just a racist. Criticize Obama and the Left and the media attacks you, destroys you, and never addresses teh merits of your complaint. Um … Joe the Plumber, comes to mind here. This all was part and parcel in 1933-1945 Germany. Blame the Jews for the problems … now, it is blame Bush; blame the Republicans; blame the Right; create a hatred of the Right and make them into a threat. Doubt this, read recent Homeland Security bulletins. What happens when health care passes and people revolt? Are we all to be labeled a threat and martial law declared to quell the unrest? Sounds like a Commie just burned down the Riechstag. It CAN happen here.

Bill,

I read Finnegans Wake but didn’t have a freakin clue as to what that book was about. – so I don’t go around spewing on about Joyce, sport.. I don’t want to talk as there are throats to be slit and black flags that need hoisting – no time for chit chat. Hubble Bubble Laude, Gum Chewing.

” babblerouser says:
October 16, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Bill,

I read Finnegans Wake but didn’t have a freakin clue as to what that book was about. – so I don’t go around spewing on about Joyce, sport.. I don’t want to talk as there are throats to be slit and black flags that need hoisting – no time for chit chat. Hubble Bubble Laude, Gum Chewing.”

See- that’s the difference – I understand and comprehend what I read..

There’s a “Right-Wing Media”????!!!

Since WHEN?? Two radio hosts and one cable network are hardly considered “media”, IMHO…

One would think that someone as intelligent as Chomsky thinks he is, would know that there is no such thing since the overwhelming majority of media outlets are now state-controlled.

The fact that Chomsky is still being paid by a university for his propaganda, is far more horrifying than any “nazis” that might be creeping out of his feeble mind…

Yawn…. the term “nazi” has been so over-used that it’s diminished to the point that when a liberal accuses somebody of being a nazi, it probably means they’re not a communist. Chomsky is a rabid hate spewing anti-America opportunist, and while he condemns everything about America, he doesn’t mind getting rich in America. Another limosine liberal hack being elevated by the ultra liberal ivy league establishment. Ho-hum.

Noam is right, if we are not careful, we may see the same sort of things happen here and now in the US that happened with the rise of Nazi Germany. Or maybe they already are?

Consider and compare: in 1933, Jews were forbidden to work as Doctors. By 1936, Jews were forbidden from working any professional jobs. By 1938, the list of work Jews were not allowed to do was greatly expanded, adding for example brokers, tourist guides, many more.

Rush Limbaugh was recently denied the right to engage in business he wanted to because of of his political views.

Who will they come after next?

Conservative Republicans favor limited government — the complete opposite of Nazism. Nazi is short for Nationalsozialismus (German), or National Socialism. Liberal Democrats are national socialists, and are thus much more like Nazis than their arch counterparts, conservative Republicans. Secondly, the Democrats have the White House and substantial majorities in both chambers of Congress. The mainstream media is so liberally biased they have no credibility. Yet Republican voters are far more informed than Democrat voters. Chomsky thinks conservatives in media are the problem with this country? The term Nazi is so overused that it’s becoming meaningless.

Bill,
…and from what I read you are a fan of Van Jones, a known communist..and Rahm Tha Bomb…and you apparently own “assault” rifles. Don’t you know that only the police and military should own those items? rigghhhtt?
…and I’m a vegan and am a fan of Anthony Bourdain and Oscar Mayer.

Chomsky says that (paraphrasing) “America is the greatest country in the world”. Yet, he’s an anarchist who despises capitalism. He is Jewish, yet he despises the Israeli state and supports Hezbollah. He refers to conservative personalities as “Nazis”, yet conservatism espouses limited government and personal freedoms.

Is Chomsky fundamentally confiused, or is it me?

This Chomsky have no shame…. Pol Pot’s Cheerleader in Chief, this nutty professor still dare to show his ugly face and talk about peace, freedom, rights… C’mmon! go back to Hell where you belong..
2 millions cambodians deaths are not enough to silence you? Have a little decency….

who’s the little HST wannabe? bet you named your dog “Gonzo”

The trouble with the type is a complete loss of common sense and the frredom of a nation that has permitted him to get where he is and now wants to trash the system. I hope Obamacare will cover him because he is mindless and will wander the halls asking if anyone knows who he is. Maybe Obamacare will consider him not worth the expense and let him die.

Adleast this analogy is coming from a real thinker in Chomsky. Anyone who doesn’t see the parallel between the right wing media and the Nazi propaganda machine is blind. Of course, because every Tom, Dick and Harry is making Nazi comments these days, a real intellectual argument by Chomsky will fall by the way side as just another crazy person making a Nazi analogy. It seems that the editorial staff of Mediaite is doing just that, throwing Chomsky’s argument on the scrap heap with the others.

The liberal/leftist/progressive anti-liberty, anti-capitalist crowd thinks they are on the verge of creating a world in which they can oppress all opposition. That is their goal and their only measure of victory. They cannot imagine a world in which diversity and competition drive innovation and cooperation is necessary. Cooperation is only a last resort when total domination and extreme oppression of every last un-assimilated individual seem unlikely.

Today, that oppression seems very likely and Chomsky is just the latest to “stretch for the tape” as he believes the finish line to be within reach.

Remember this, the ONLY threat to collectivism is an individual refusing to be homogenized. All other herd-mentality group-think such as that advocated by the neocons, libertarians and the disciples of Beck are nothing more than reactions to their life-long progressive indoctrination. Step apart from the herd and be an individual. In that manner, the progressives cannot win.

-Jahfre Fire Eater

“…, he alluded to right-wing media as “substantive content — crazy content, but it does give answers,” and warned that if Americans weren’t properly educated about what was really happening to them, they could be in for a repeat of the Nazi takeover of Germany in the 1930s. … It’s the fault of the Jews and the Bolsheviks and we’ve got to protect ourselves from them, and that will take care of them.’ And you know what happened…”

Could someone with a color laser printer print out the photos of leftwing protests from this site and mail them to the good professor?

http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/

Sorry, Prof. Chomsky. Wrong analogy. The more apt one for “people with real grievances”, growing more voluble by the day, is the one usually attributed to Pastor Niemöeller. I refer, of course, to the current spectacle of Pres. Obama’s refusal to give interviews to Fox News and the stunning silence of ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN in the face of such presidential temper tantrums.

Should not Fox’s counterparts likewise inform the White House that they will refrain from inviting the President to appear on their Sunday talk shows, lest the suspicion arise that America does in fact have a state-controlled media; a media wherein only “administration-friendly” questions will be allowed?

For those of a certain age, the analogy which still beats against the brain is: “In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for … . ” (Martin Niemöeller)

Keeva and Mark D E…nuff said and…well said!

One of the few times I see some logical and simple plain talk. Sooooo easy to throw around the terms nazi, fascist, etc to either side.

Plain and simple…our elected officials violate the principles of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. Read the violation of rights the colonists challenged to pursue independence in the D.O.I.. Every single grievance listed against the King/Parliament, have been committed by the Presidents/Congress/Reps since Washington (the only Independent!). He saw the toxicity of politics towards the better of society. Washington recognized how the passion of politics could destroy our incredible experiment of IMPERFECT freedom/governing and the natural rights bestowed us upon the CREATOR (not just the christian God!)

Freedom to live as a person!!! INDIVIDUAL!!! NOT the public…

I have read that in the beginning quite a few university professors in Germany were enthusiastic supporters of the National Socialists.

Chomsky is a pompous, self-obsessed imbecile, of course, but the fact is that if a government wants its people to think something, they use the media.

Nobody, of any political stripe, should ever trust their government, or the media.

For all you Leftover Libnuts who love to categorize Conservatives as Nazis? The actual Nazi party in Germany were known as the National Socialist German Workers Party not Republicans or Conservatives! The Socialist aspect is actually closer to you Socialist Libnuts and by the way you strive for abject State control of everyones lives from cradle to grave you mirror them in this sense as well! Your absolute hatred and intolerance of people with views and ideologies different than your own also smacks of Nazi type behavior! You see, they also wanted to create a totalitarian state with Hitler at the head and were absolutely intolerant of any divergent views which were not lockstep in line with those of the Nazi Party! Initially they appeared to be a partisan party who were interested in the survival of the German people, but their true aim was a totalitarian state and ideology in which the Nazi controlled State would control the lives of those who served this ideal. This sounds very familiar, while the ideology maybe different and to the extreme Left, the goal seems to be the same! Elitist Leftwing control of the State with the State controlling every aspect of the lives the citizens with an Elitist Lefty at the helm pushing a godless New Age environmental, anti-human State religion bereft of God, since this would go against the Socialist/Communist ideals as well as the situational morality which dominates the Left today, “do what thou will” because there are no wrongs as long as it serves the desires of said person regardless of the inherent harm to other people or society in general! As far as the Nazi Party goes they were not Right-wing or Left-wing? They were Death-wing! They also did not have a Constitution and Bill of Rights to guide them as we do! It is the Globalist Elitist Leftovers who are attempting to subjugate this country and it’s Constitution because it opposes the totalitarian control they are striving for over this country and it’s people! They are the true fascists and they have been exposed and are now being opposed by the American people and they don’t like it, so they are waging a PR campaign against the Conservatives who are beholden to the Constitution and the will of the Founders of this country! So what better way to castigate them than to call them Nazis? Look at who is tracking people and hiring thugs to beat up senior citizens at Town Halls? Who is having school children sing songs of praise as propaganda, extolling the greatness of the messiah of the Left? Who is disparaging citizens as terrorists for exercising their God given and Constitutionally protected rights to disagree with the despotic leaders in power currently? Not the Conservatives? Thats how it began in Germany and now I wonder how long before the knocks on the door in the middle of the night begin?

On 10/7/09 I posted this question on my blog, http://whitecollargreenspace.blogspot.com/

Is it possible that those individuals and groups that oppose universal health coverage are worse than the Nazi’s?

As many as 80 million Americans are uninsured or underinsured, which means they have little access to a regular physician, checkups, preventive services, affordable prescription drugs, dental care or screening tests.
Up to 100,000 lives could be saved if the country’s health-care system performed as well those in nations such as France, Japan and Australia, according to the Commonwealth Fund study, which was based on World Health Organization statistics.
After the horrors of the Holocaust were known, All of us swore that we would never standby and let it happen again. However with 100,000 people dying each year because they are under-insured, Americans will see 8 million individuals die during their lifetimes. More than the Holocaust.
American life expectancy is about 80 years.
Since 1945, the most commonly cited figure for the total number of Jews killed during the Holocaust has been six million.

As Glenn Beck has been saying for months on radio and television, we are headed for Weimar territory and hyper-inflation. But have no fear because here come the democrats to save us all. All we need to do is give them a little more control over our lives, and not complain so loudly when they spend all that money. Noam is correct, if we don’t stop listening to “right wing” media, we are in danger of waking up in time to save ourselves.

whitecollargreenspaceguy: So, uhhhh, you are comparing private citizens in the United States that are opposed to socialized medicine to individuals within the Nazi party that executed innocent civilians?

and 100,000 people are supposedly dying because they are “under-insured”? I didn’t know that “death by under-insurance” is a known, fatal medical condition. I’ve never heard of anyone dying by causes of “under-insured”. You’d think we’d have started a tremendous amount of research into this devastating “under-insured” disease. Or is it some sort of cancer? Can it be transmitted via sexual intercourse..sharing needles? Man, you’ve got me scared. I mean, who can I go to for a screening to see if I have “under-insured”?

I mean…seriously? You are serious, right?

…and there is nothing worse than a Nazi..except for circus clowns…and badgers.

…and just imagine the reduction of the US “carbon footprint” if we keep course and have all these people dying! Save The Planet and Vote NO to Universal Healthcare! 100,000 a year, right greenspaceguy? Hell, let’s make it even MORE difficult to get insurance..why settle for 100,000 when we could, say, get that number to 500,000! Al Gore would be SO HAPPY!

Washington Post article about the study that came up with the under-insured death toll of 100,000.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/10/05/ST2009100503801.html
We provide better health care to fallen enemies on the battlefield than we do to the un-insured and the under-insured. Remember they are are friends, neighbors, and relatives. Perhaps we should not send ambulances or fire trucks to those in need if they have no insurance on file.

The Havard Medical School study alread found that 45,000 deaths are caused by being uninsured:
http://www.harvardscience.harvard.edu/medicine-health/articles/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-lack-health-coverage

Perhaps, we will have to use the G word. Is it possible that if they are successful in blocking a successful health care reform bill they might be guilty of genocide; the slow, painful, hidden suffering and death of the great under-class? It seems that they have an attitude that the people that have no health insurance are beneath them and are not worthy.

Cutting our carbon footprint?
Please watch the youtube speech I posted 4 days before Obama’s speech. It contains a policy proposal that would have the federal government stop wasting $100 billion per year and cut it’s carbon footprint. This is the exact amount we need for Obama’s plan.
If white collar work was scheduled for two different 8 hour shifts each day instead of one, we could cut the overhead which runs about $50,000/worker in half. Please share this with anyone you wish. This would save the federal government a trillion dollars in the next ten years. Enough to pay for President Obama’s healthcare plan.
It also cuts the carbon footprint of the government by 40% to 50% not just 2% or so as called for in the recent executive order. President Obama signed and executive order on 10/5/09 stating that agencies must for the first time measure, report and reduce their carbon footprint.
This simple plan will help our government and private industry in the following ways:

•Save federal gov a trillion dollars in next 10 years

•Exactly amount needed for universal healthcare

•Reduce white-collar overhead costs by 50%

•Reduce carbon footprint of office space by 50%

•Reduce budget deficits for most state governments

•Reduce our dependence on foreign oil

•Make workers competitive in the global economy

•Improve profits for all businesses and

•Increase tax receipts for state/fed governments

•Businesses can hire more employees & lower prices

OUR GOVERNMENT HAS THE MONEY ALREADY TO PAY FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.
Now on youtube:”A Citizen’s Response to President Barack Obama’s Health Care Speech”http://www.youtube.com/user/greenspaceguy

chomsky@mit.edu

anyone who wants to write to the worthless bastard

…outerspaceguy…loved the bullet points, great copy/paste! and when you did the whole “our government has the money already to pay for universal healthcare”, well I damn near pissed myself. Where do they keep that pot of money, next to the big ol pot of social security money? That “Obama Money”, right? His stash? Your grasp on economics is outstanding!

The money comes from stopping waste.

Money comes from stopping waste – well of course it does! Gonna go make me some right now and clog my toilet….and here I thought it grew on the magical, government planted money tree. Silly me.

Article 30 of the Geneva conventions states the following about the treatment of POW’s:

Every camp shall have an adequate infirmary where prisoners of war may have the attention they require, as well as appropriate diet. Isolation wards shall, if necessary, be set aside for cases of contagious or mental disease.

Prisoners of war suffering from serious disease, or whose condition necessitates special treatment, a surgical operation or hospital care, must be admitted to any military or civilian medical unit where such treatment can be given, even if their repatriation is contemplated in the near future. Special facilities shall be afforded for the care to be given to the disabled, in particular to the blind, and for their rehabilitation, pending repatriation…

The costs of treatment, including those of any apparatus necessary for the maintenance of prisoners of war in good health, particularly dentures and other artificial appliances, and spectacles, shall be borne by the Detaining Power.

By cutting overhead expenses for all govenrment office buildings, there would be enough money left to pay for health insurance. It does not make a lot of sense to keep affordable health care from the 80 million under-insured, when we are dealing with the H1N1 pandemic. The sicker people get the more the virus will spread and become more aggressive.

Mr. Chumpski:

I write for a living and have a very good command of the English language, but since you appear to brain dead, I’ll keepit simple for you. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Chomsky is a philologist. He wrote a book that was used by graduate students in education for the purpose of using his analysis of English in teaching elementary school students how to analyze and understand English. It was ridiculous. It was like quantum mechanics compared with sentence analysis that used to be done in high school. It was over the heads of the graduate students. Their instructors were unable to get it across. Chomsky wrote many left wing books, but worked with and published with the right wing Holocaust deniers in America and Europe. The extreme left and the extreme right share both totalitarian and anti-Semitic aims. However, it is not necessary, as some do, to call Nazis “left wing” and Communists “right wing.” Viewing both extremes as wrong does not require both to be placed on only one side. The Popular Front view of “no enemies on the left” should not be countered with “all enemies on the left (or right).”

NAZI stood for the National Socialist Party and last time I checked the Socialists were LEFT WING. That’s a historical FACT Mr. Chomsky. Maybe the Right Wing in America is upset with the Communist Redistribution of Wealth, otherwise known as THEFT of Private Property, or aren’t we supposed to call things what they really are in your world Mr. Chomsky. Yes I would say you and yours are going to be in for a world of the brown stuff very soon.

Kiley Anderson’s and Amerkian Patriots comments and reactions almost seem to make Noam Chomsky correct in his statements. Considering the mess that George Bush left President Obama and his efforts to fix them followed by words like communist, socialist, etc. only verify Noam Chomsky’s conclusions about right wing hate media. Where were they when the former administration was playing political games with our constitution? Here are two examples: The FISA law. The law stated that you had 72 hours after you wiretapped a suspicious individual to notify the court of your need to wiretap. But Bush would not notify the courts, thus breaking the law….but he never tried to amend the law to fit what may work for his need to wiretap….and the other incident that should have alarmed all Americans was the treatment of Terry Shiavo’s husband. Many conservative Republican judges told the adminstration that the case was decided and not to intervene. To satisfy the Religous Right, he intervened and the demonization of Mr. Shiavo by the religous right was akin to Nazism. Your continual harping on liberal’s makes me wonder if you agree with child labor, segregated water fountains, no voting rights for women and amending our constitution to deprive gay people of marriage….Glen Beck said that Barak Obama hates white people…need anymore proof about the nonsense coming from Fox News!

For the most part, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and Fox News are the only one’s asking questions. Nazis (National Socialists) and Communists hate those who would question the government. Professor Chomsky seeks to stifle the debate by comparing potential whistleblowers to a regime that MURDERED BABIES, CHILDREN and FAMILIES! The Obama supporters are the ones who attempt to destroy the questioner, just ask “Joe the Plumber; they’re still dissecting his history for daring to ask a candidate a tough question. Which side are you on, professor…do you value debate, or do you trust any government enough to where it shouldn’t be scrutinized?

To Bilwood: Dick Cheney hated/avoided any questioning of him or his secret meetings while he was in office….Is he a Nazi or Communist? President Obama has had more press conferences in his in first year in office than the former administration had by a long shot! Fox News is biased in their opinions…just listen to them. If they were credible they would have applied the same type of scrutiny to the Bush Administration but Bill O’Reily quickly called anyone questioning Bush, anti-American and a Bush-Hater. Question Obama….Yes by all means but to call him a communist, socialist, etc….is non-constructive.

I’ve actually had history profs assign this clowns strange books as well as some of his video taped lectures years ago. He is certifiable and very hateful. He reminded me of a more stupid version of Howard Zinn. At least Zinn is a real History prof as twisted as his ideas are. Ironically Chompsky is the one that would be more likely to endorse NAZI like treatment of those that disagree with his ilk…..I’d say this nihilist ( only when is comes to America of course) has a lot of nerve calling or comparing anyone to a NAZI given his writings and ideas. This guy is a multimillionaire many time over and has serious issue with capitalism as well as our Republican form of government. I suppose I would also compare this over-educated Linguistics nerd to the equally hypocritical though uneducated blob Michael Moore. All I’m saying is read this guys stuff…..he’s a major league hater and supports with all his heart and misguided intellect the most despotic murderous regimes of the last century and today…..while milking unsuspecting parents of students way too many dollars for wasted credits. I wonder how many decent though impressionable students he’s turned into haters over the years with his lectures. Like Zinn he relies on his students having a weak or already tainted with lies background in American and Western history and our high schools never seem to fail him.

Noam Chomsky wrote the foreword to a book denying the Auschwitz gas chambers, by a well-known neo-Nazi named Faurisson. His article defending Nazis was published widely and several of his articles appear on neo-Nazi websites, and in the Journal of Historical Review, the phoney “scholar” neo-Nazi publication of the Institute for Historical Review. He gave another of his books to a French Nazi publishing house, saving it from bankrupcy, and otherwise has a long history of both hard-communist and neo-Nazi associations. As to the Democrat Party, it was THE “Party of Slavery” against which Abraham Lincoln formed the Republican Party to oppose slavery. This is why Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. Also because white racists like George Wallace, Lester Maddox and others of their ilk in the South were all Democrat Party. The “Dixiecrats” they called themselves. So the decendants of the black slaves today form political alliances with the decendants of the old slave task-masters and those who barred black people from equalty over generations. And left-wing ignoramuses who self-righteously proclaim anyone they don’t like as a “Nazi” will quote from a leading pro-Nazi author. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, etc., are beloved characters of the left-wing jack arses. They follow black racists and Islamic fanatics who would put all women under the veil, and who would not hesitate to start head-shooting conservatives if given the opportunity. That is their history, the left.

To IndependentObserver: I agree with you on one point…It was wrong for Cheney to avoid questions, part of government service in this country is being accountable and accessable to the people. Also, note that I’m not criticizing the administration specifically. The professor’s comments were directed at media figures who are mostly bringing up questions for debate about the President’s agenda, and I believe they’re fair questions that aren’t being asked by networks other than Fox. Silencing debate is an attribute associated with totalitarian regimes both left (Communism) and the right (Fascism). If Professor Chomsky hopes to stifle debate through his comments I believe that attitude would place him somewhat outside the principles of a representative democracy.

Laserkay….sit through a few of hater liar chompsky ‘s lectures and bought into his twisted ideas eh?right wing Holocaust deniers in America and Europe. those would be neo-NAZI’s and sorry they aren’t registered Republicans or libertarians or conservatives. Just because under educated posers like you want to lump them in with the people you hate doesn’t make it so. Their is a reason Chomsky is considered a fringe lunatic closeted in an Ivy league community that long ago lost it way. By the way others have also pointed it out but what the heck you don’t do any of your own thinking anyway so I’ll clue you in also national socialism….socialism is more your speed and it is very very left wing, The Germans of the nazi era were anything but conservative….they made up there history and traditions as they went on their crazy path to destruction. Sound Familiar ? probably not because you probably think Howard Zinn has it right also.

Bilwood…sure in a perfect media world it would be wrong for Cheney to work outside of media scrutiny. Do you actually believe the American media holding him under the typical reserved for Republican’s only microscope he would have been treated fairly. Our media reserves a special form of hell for Republicans and conservatives that leftist and Democrats rarely ever experience. Look at the free ride Barney Frank is getting with regards to the mortgage fiasco. No sane person left or right can mistake NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, CBC or any news magazine or newspaper with several….several exceptions of having even the slightest conservative tenor or giving Republican politician fair treatment. I’d take the fairness doctrine for radio if you give me the fairness doctrine for newspapers, and network news. The Dems wont make that deal because they aren’t that dim, they know they own the two biggest news and opinion sources and like it just fine because they create the message and there tools in media sell it for them on cue

To Bilwood: Debate is the stamp of freedom in our nation. Legitamite, constructive critcism or questioning of our leaders should never be stiffled…for any one in power…its what helps to keep power from being abused…I have to be honest…I never read or heard of Noam Chomsky before the article but his observation about the hatred of Obama by calling him a communist, socialist, etc is what caught my eye….I saw some of the Ken Burns films about our National Parks on PBS. In the films there were episodes about some of the crass developers, such as in Grand Canyon. They had monetary interest in their private developement of the Grand Canyon. They would call anyone opposed to them with the same type of comments being used against President Obama…questioning their character, etc….My agreement with Noam Chomsky is the name calling being used in criticism of President Obama by the right wing media: Fox News, Limbaugh, etc…..the birthers are a good example of debate that is nonsense…Is the budget deficit a concern?…hell yes but one of the things Obama is doing as opposed to Bush is including the cost of the wars….but when I hear the vile, wrong headed comments against Obama then I say that type of debate is useless, nonproductive and probably cheered on by the types that have a vested interest in opposing him…such as the Private Health Insurance cabal….to be fair it was noted on Bill Moyers that WellPoint was represented by their lobbyist behind Senator Bacus in any pictures of him…THIS COUNTRY has some serious problems and from my observations President Obama is trying to fix them…if FOX NEWS wants to be credible it should investigate Wall Street and how they got us into our current economic mess but are still trying to stiffle any reasonable regulations to prevent their foolish risk taking from happening again….talk about socialism….they want the tax payers to pay for they mistakes…..

Laslavic : Good point. We don’t have a perfect media world so it’s up to the listener/viewer/reader to seek out the truth and question all media, as media should question government officials. I don’t believe Vice President Cheney would have gotten a “fair” shake from some of the left-leaning media you referenced, but national politics is the “Big League”, and if you can’t hold your own, you’re in the wrong business. I’m not too upset that Sarah Palin was under the microscope, I think that if President Obama were under the same scrutiny the electorate might have made a different decision. I vote with my remote, and will reward any news media that gives me a reasonably balanced viewpoint and treats me like an adult. So far, I’ve seen more liberals given a fair shake on Fox than conservatives treated fairly on CNN, NBC, etc; and I’ve heard self-identified liberals moved to the front of the caller line on Rush, Hannity and Boortz.. The media was hard on Republican candidates last year, and they need to be just as demanding of the current administration. When CNN is fact-checking Saturday Night Live skits perceived to be hard on the President, they’re showing that their loyalty is to the president, not to the public.

billwood do some research before you declare fascism is a right wing thing. For too many years college profs that should know better and usually do and reporters that just don’t have thrown the word around like a swear word. Fascism is actually another flavor of socialism in reality though. Long ago the leftist all around the west and Dems in the US got tired of having the parallel to communism and socialism and tagged the right with the fascist thing figuring regular people wouldn’t figure it out and sure enough they are right. Show me a fascist state that did not control the means of production and destroy property rights in one way or another.

I’m picking on you because you sound pretty smart….just a little off on definitions. US history classes and poly sci classes don’t teach any more they preach.

Wow. reading all these right wings responses that reflect the cool aid Limbaugh and Fox are feeding these morons, it’s quite obvious Chomsky is dead on. Thanks morons for proving his point.

Can any of you come up with an original though that isn’t s regurgitation of something you heard from Limbaugh or Fox? Of course, that would require actually having brains and using them.

To IndependentObserver: In business or government, if someone refuses to debate they probably already know they have a weak argument. If a conservative is scheduled to speak at a college campus, he or she will almost universally be either blocked from speaking or shouted down. If that speaker truly had a foolish argument their foolishness would be revealed. But if I’m protesting, I’m not afraid of what I’ll hear, I’m afraid of what YOU might hear, which is far more disrespectful to the potential audience than to the speaker. I agree with you that name-calling is lazy. I have heard vigorous debate on Fox about the wall-street melt-down. Granted, they have a very free-market worldview, but they always have regular guests with counter views. By the way, I’m not surprised that Wall-Street executives would look to the government, or any other entity, to bail them out. A hallmark of capitalism is working out of a sense of self interest. It’s up to the Government to say no if said bailout were not appropriate.

Vice President Cheney in my opinion was a internal threat to our Country….not to mention how he could not serve in the miliatry when asked five times but was ready attack when someone else had their lives on the line.. Liberals being given a fair shake on Fox versus CNN….come on….Rush, Hannity and Boortz have only one thing in mind when they speak of liberals….if you really want a fair, unbiased media point…then look at the Jim Lehrer News Hour…..It would be great if the Republican Party opened up to different points of view….I have yet to hear of any Republican opposing party doctrine from being marganilized or leaving in disgust…if they could have the diversity that Democrats have it would help the nation…there are liberal, moderate and conservative Democrats…from my last observation…liberal Republicans are extinct and moderate Republicans are an endangered species….Colin Powell….for example…

To laslavic: I thought you’d call me on the definitions, I had read your previous posts. I took license to make the main point that silencing debate is wrong regardless of reason or ideology. Thanks for the clarification.

to IndependentObserver: If there are liberal, moderate and conservative Democrats, then why have two parties. If a candidate aligns more with the Democratic platform, he should be a Democrat. I don’t agree with everything the Republicans offer, and I’m definitely not a cheer-leader for Bush/Cheney, but I feel they’re the major party that best reflects my values and the direction I would like to see the country go. This last election, the majority of voters had a different opinion, that’s politics.

Well Said

One of the more common cliches about marxists is how they flap their arms up and down and accuse their enemies of fascism. All of the tactics used by the fascists and marxists are coming from the left. Racism, control of the media, brainwashing, propaganda, smear campaigns, property seizure – it’s all on the Obama menu. However, the braying from the commies is driving people to open their minds and check out the truth, which is good news for Fox ratings. And in addition, if liberal fascists are afraid of conservatives, that’s also good news. If you can make your enemy afraid you have won. So please, Mr. Chomsky, keep up the sky-is-falling rhetoric. If nothing else, it will hasten the revolution, where liberal fascism will finally be eradicated.

Chomps is a typical example on how the Jewish Lobby “Media” has control of both sides of the argument, and continue to perpetrate fantasy as history onto the Human Psych…
Whatever gives this “Grunts” (So Called) expert the notion that his opinion has any value is beyond any but La suburbia Americana sub-cultural tribalism, any common sense that ever existed there has long been devolved…
This guy actually tried to sell to free sceptical enquiring minds that Tall Concrete and Steel Buildings fall through the path of greater resistance, at near free fall speed without the aid of path clearing explosives… According to him, demolition gangs should all be out of a job, we have now new imploding techniques, worthy of true “Ame Rica Nos, aren’t we gorgeous” pretentious “Civilization (sic)”.
This guy is a fool, but not as much as all that still listen to him…
No, I didn’t watch the video.
He would make a good team with Dawkins, World touring, telling us all how something that they know not what it is, can not exist because it is beyond their explanation, seen how they know everything.
If these are the counselors of Humanity, no wonder stupidity is endemic… Must get myself a printer like them though, they sure have the plebs swindled into shape.

>Wow. reading all these right wings responses that reflect the cool aid Limbaugh and Fox are feeding these morons, it’s quite obvious Chomsky is dead on. Thanks morons for proving his point.

Agreed. It’s amazing to see how this entire thread turned into something proving Chomsky’s very point.

#1 If you are saying Chomsky is wrong, you probably don’t understand a word he says, or actually take the time to go and read the references he uses (he is like a living encyclopedia, after all, and I can’t say I’ve met too many people who can cite off hand as well as he can.)

#2 I am quite positive the analogy isn’t as cut and dry as you nay-sayers would just -love- it to be. Germans at the time of Nazi Germany -were human beings just like you and I- and they were -convinced of things through methods we and Noam Chomsky alike would call “propaganda.” They were -not- all blood thirsty murderers, just as not all American military soldiers are (even if that is in their job description.) There -were- reasons for Hitler being able to point his finger at the Jews in the first place, EVEN IF they were morally bankrupt at the core, completely decrepit and reminiscient of something an Anti-Christ would commit. He took these reasons and abused them to unite his people in a single aim – exactly as Chomsky says. The analogy is that Americans are following suit to this same type of propaganda, and yes, this is certainly the case. If you are not aware of it, you have not paid enough attention. There is plenty of historical evidence supporting the claim that America is a giant, atrocity committing bully bent on subduing the entire world and instilling fear in it as well, and plenty of recent evidence as well. But there is no point in trying to convince individuals who have already decided their stance and are too hard-headed to ever try and even play devil’s advocate.

#3 Chomsky subscribes to moral anarchy, or more specifically, Bakunian anarchy and anarcho-syndicalism. I see numerous comments here labeling him a leftist, a marxist and a communist. If you’ve ever read Bakunin (I’m sure you haven’t) you know damn well there is a massive difference. Then again, you obviously haven’t read Noam Chomsky, as if you had, you wouldn’t have the capacity to make such blatantly ignorant accusations about his character and ability to reason, as your jaw would have dropped to the floor in incapacity to comprehend his -enlightening- words of wisdom. There is a reason Chomsky is well-respected throughout the world and voted the #1 intellectual. It doesn’t surprise me that a great number of Americans dislike him, as our education system is defunct and we no longer compete in the world arena with regards to academics (ergo, you have no capacity to understand what it is he is saying. You’d rather watch prime time television and football religiously.)

Bilwood: Does your support of the Bush/Cheney mentality mean you approve of the deaths of innocents in the hundreds of thousands? Because that’s exactly what they achieved, and there is no mode by which you can prove otherwise, as the facts and bodies scream loud and clear. If by direction you mean “the senseless slaughter of living, breathing, thinking, feeling human beings” then I suppose you’re entitled to that, although I am afraid it is as morally bankrupt an ideology as Nazism and trying to develop an Aryan super race by the elimination of all other genetic lines. Americans who support unfounded war are Nazis, sorry. Hitler’s first invasion was a “preemptive war” and our little stints in Iraq and Afghanistan are none-other than that.

Actually, you silly lefty Linguist, the National SOCIALISTS ie. Nazis are more in line with obamas own domestic policies regarding statism, the takeover of private industry, media, and propaganda

You could write a book on Chomskys bull#$@# in the last 40 years….oh look!…someone has…sourced and footnoted.

http://www.paulbogdanor.com/200chomskylies.pdf
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Right on Noam.
BTW, what does OY mean??? hmmm interesting..

So Obama is a SOCIALIST is he???

He really should drop Social Security, VA care, etc., etc., etc., ALL Socialist programs paid for the goverment..

One would think that the Right would catch a clue, after being led down the Garden Path for 8 years by Right Wing media “news”,,ie Faux and crew,Savage, Rushy etc, alll who proved to be tragically wrong on what they spewed…

At least he didn’t say anything really provocative, such as, “You Lie!” NC would truly be radical Nazi material. This guy is an ass so are his lefy followers.

This guy is an ass so are his lefy followers.>>>>

Awwww, WE are totally devastated to hear this…

I love it that left wingers always try to portray Hitler and the Nazi’s as right-wingers. Were they not paying attention in history class when they studied that Nazi is the common name for the National Socialist German Workers Party.

HE IS RIGHT!! Going DOWN the PATH of the PAST!! Are you BLIND? or your head buried? before you lose it?

What SCARES people who can “muster” a THOUGHT? scares them about;Rush, Savage,Beck, et.al??? YOU CAN’T HANDLE the TRUTH!!!

@ Sathor…”if you’ve ever read Bakunin (I’m sure you haven’t)” That’s the kind of snide comment that pseudo-intellectual nerds always make. You see, my dear, there’s always someone out there who HAS read or experienced what you imagine makes you unique and knows that it doesn’t. Years ago someone brought a dreary French anarchist to dinner at my house. He saw a copy of something by Bakunin on a shelf and was STUNNED that an American would own such a book. ( European anarchists are the dullest people on earth…well, except for American communists and movie stars) LSS…Bakunin was a hygiene deficient lunatic who would be diagnosed as hebephrenic were he around today. So to that extent I suppose he does have something in common with Chomsky.

The responses to this article are very enlightening as to the wrong headed thinking of many Americans today. Knee jerk reactions defining issues as liberal or conservative are simplistic and only serve the purpose of alienating one “culture” from the other. The purpose of dividing opinion into two camps is to keep people’s focus away from solving the common issues we share. This encourages acrimony between the two parties so as to divert attention away from these dilemmas and the common sense answers that are needed today to solve the social problems that we all have in common. It is necessary that Americans transcend the ideologies of this two party system and find a common ground so that the real changes that are needed in our society can be effected.

The single most important thing that Americans need to know is that money creation is in the hands of a select cabal of elites who control this function through the private banking system. Money is not issued into the economy by the government but instead by private banks who use the deceit of the fractional reserve to profit from this fraudulent practice. If there is one thing that the American people must come to realize is that the fruits of our labors are being stolen from us under the guise of income taxes. We are lead to believe that these monies are being collected on our behalf by the government so as to pay infrastructure costs of our society. But this is not the case as most of the proceeds of this unjust tax go to pay interest charges on the “loans” that private banks issue to the government. These loans do not reflect any true transfer of monies, they are book keeping entries that come into existence once the banks have received the collateral of government issued bonds (debt pledges on behalf of the American people). These monies never existed before and do not reflect any true value. This is the sham of our banking system and it is this knowledge that these elites seek to keep hidden from the public. It matters not to them whether it is a Democrat or Republican who is in power as the results are always the same, a continuity of the existing system and an obfuscation of the true nature of the sham. It’s time for Americans to stop arguing amongst ourselves and wake up to the true nature of this deception that has been perpetrated on the unsuspecting public. Return money creation to the public so that the people do not incur the burden of usury the has been cast upon them. Solve this problem and America will return to the prosperous and free nation it once was.

Barrie Zwicker’s devastating critique of Noam Chomsky’s capacity for doublethink and evasiveness is brilliantly laid out in Towers of Deception. Did I mention that Zwicker has solid leftwing credentials up in Canada?

Germany in the 1920s had runaway inflation akin to present-day Zimbabwe, hunger marches through the main thoroughfares of its biggest cities, running street battles between communist and Nazi good squads, an epidemic of suicides, mass unemployment, collective despair. That was the backdrop for what Chomsky says was German’s sterling achievements in the arts and sciences back then.

Casandra – Excellent message, and nary an insult to the “other side”. So refreshing.

The true elite’s divide and conquer strategy’s effectiveness is on full display as we try to out-trumpet or out- allcap (on the internet) each others beliefs, while the powers that be consolidate ever more of our treasure and their control.

Returning the money creation to the people is an impossibly complex nut to crack, especially given the hopelessness of ever getting our wholly owned corporate politicians to ever slit their own throat and change it (see health care reform).

Nonetheless, I enjoy reading constructive comments devoid of the childish name calling. Thanks!

“Returning the money creation to the people is an impossibly complex nut to crack, especially given the hopelessness of ever getting our wholly owned corporate politicians to ever slit their own throat and change it”

Agreed that this would be a daunting task but not hopeless, IMHO. The key is to having the public understand the true nature of the banker’s ruse. As mainstream media controls what information gets out to the people we cannot look to this as a source for our salvation. It is through the information renaissance of the internet that this information is being promulgated for the awakening of the public. There are many authors who speak eloquently on this subject, but none who break down the complexities of our current unfortunate arrangement as Ellen Brown in her book Web of Debt. I urge those who may not have the time or inclination to read this excellent book to listen to her podcasts in the media section on her site. The one thing that differentiates this author from other authoritative writers on this subject is the fact that she offers up viable alternatives to our current parasitic system. Contrary to what most might believe there are past and current economic models that we could emulate. Another voice of reason is Catherine Austin Fitts. This incredible woman was a big player on Wall Street and a stellar public servant when she worked at HUD in the Bush Sr. administration. Reading her story is an eye opening indictment on the corruption and criminality of both Wall Street and the corridors of power in Washington.

http://www.webofdebt.com/
http://solari.com/

“The true elite’s divide and conquer strategy’s effectiveness is on full display as we try to out-trumpet or out- allcap (on the internet) each others beliefs, while the powers that be consolidate ever more of our treasure and their control.”

As the distinguished Canadian economist once said, “Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.” … John Kenneth Galbraith

“Germany in the 1920s had runaway inflation akin to present-day Zimbabwe, hunger marches through the main thoroughfares of its biggest cities, running street battles between communist and Nazi good squads, an epidemic of suicides, mass unemployment, collective despair. That was the backdrop for what Chomsky says was German’s sterling achievements in the arts and sciences back then.” All true, and not disputed by Chomsky. The Nazis offered simple solutions, just like your right-wing messiahs offer simple solutions. Just get rid of the people causing the problems – - the illegal immigrants, the poor, the uppity minorities who do not realize that this is YOUR America. This will solve all of your problems, none of which you created.

NewsBusters — Chomsky: Limbaugh Et Al Are Like Nazis Blaming Problems On Jews
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/17/chomsky-limbaugh-et-al-are-nazis-blaming-problems-jews

Considering the fact that Chomsky is a jew himself, I am not exactly sure what point he is trying to make in relation to the “right-wing” news.

Doing a google search for “Jewish persecution” I received results relating to many types of historical persecutions and controls against Jews from the the following countries: Germany, England, Belgium, France, Austria, Poland, Lithunani, Portugal, Prussia, Bavaria, Italy, Russia, Sweden, Hungary, Norway
, Switzerland – all of these related to some form of market manipulation or currency issues that a minority within the Jewish community “perpetrated” against the “host” country, which created a negative situation for all Jews in that country. Is Chomsky trying to parallel the modern day events of Madoff, Greenspan/Bernanke, Lehman, Bear Stearns … to the past market manipulations in other countries. Chomsky is surely approaching a very sensitive line, however with history in mind, and his reference to Weimer (Weimer inflation) – it is not clear whether he saying this market manipulation conspiracy is against the jews -OR- by the jews? Is his problem with the “right-wing” News Media their cover up and protection of criminals, strictly because they are Jews, and the fear to investigate, a product of not wanting the lable – anti-semite. Chomsky should clarify and next time not speak in generalities – after-all he is a linguist.

Why oh why did I bother even reading through the garbage comments form people who can’t even form their own arguments against Chomsky, let alone understand what he’s even arguing about. Anyone that’s actually read the man knows that he is anti-Marxist, and anyone that’s not a complete ignoramus know’s that there was very little true association with leftist ideals in the party other than that it was called the National Socialist German Workers Party, while their policies mixed left and right ideas, their associations were primarily with the most far-right elements in Germany.

Look I’m sick of the Nazi comparison as much as anyone else, because these comparisons do not help to solve the problem and are not entirely accurate. But they exist because there for good reason, as authoritarian societies are marked by such things as the rule of men in place of law, rigged elections, and control and support of the military to provide security to the system and to control society (SEE: PATRIOT ACT). The last 8 years of Bush II have been made distinct because of such things.

Love the guy that posted up the “200 lies of Chomsky” without even questioning the contents, most of what that PDF actually does is present Chomsky’s quotes out of context of the argument he is making, and provides a copy-pasted source that appears to be about the same issue and appears to be a direct refute of Chomsky, but completely misses because they’re not even grasping the full argument that Chomsky was making, or the refute does not in fact disprove Chomsky’s statements at all.

Let us observe one of them:

Chomsky: “There is very little serious criticism of the decisions that were made, let us say, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, when we did bring the world very close to total destruction in order to order to establish the principle that we have the right to have missiles on the boarder of the Soviet Union but they do not have the same right to have missiles on our boarder.”

The Refute: It was Cuba’s communists who wanted to start a nuclear war. Che Guevara said: “If the [Soviet nuclear] rockets had remained, we would have used them all and directed them all against the very heart of the United States, including New York.” Nikita Khrushchev wrote that according to Fidel Castro, “we needed to immediately deliver a nuclear missile strike against the United States…a proposal that placed the planet on the brink of extinction.” Fidel Castro admitted: “I would have agreed to the use of nuclear weapons …we took it for granted that it would become a nuclear war anyway, and that we were going to disappear.”

Now how to we debunk the refute? It’s really not that hard at all. First of all the Cubans did not want to start a nuclear war, that is completely false, what they wanted was for the US to not invade them.

Lets see the full context of these (and other) quotes from Che Guevara and Fidel Castro:

Che Guevara: “If the [Soviet nuclear] rockets had remained, we would have used them all and directed them all against the very heart of the United States, including New York, in our defense against aggression.”

Fidel Castro: “Now, we started from the assumption that if there was an invasion of Cuba, nuclear war would erupt. We were certain of that … we would be forced to pay the price, that we would disappear…. Would I have been ready to use nuclear weapons? Yes, I would have agreed to the use of nuclear weapons.”

You have to look at the situation for what it really was. You have to ask the question, “Why were Soviet nuclear missiles placed in Cuba?” The answer is not because they wanted to wipe out the United States, the answer is that they were doing it to defend their selves from the threat of US invasion.

Now Fidel Castro did say something about a preemptive nuclear attack on the USA, but here’s the thing: he neither had the codes to launch such an attack or the support of the Soviet Union or his Cuban allies to do so. I can’t find the whole quote offhand, it’s from a book called “Covering Castro” and it comes to light in a discussion with Nikita Krushchev, who led the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

Castro was later embarrassed by the remarks and attempted to retract them, but regardless of his statement or desire to actually do such a thing, that was not why the Soviet Union brought the missiles to Cuba and Fidel Castro did not have the authority to order such an attack. The missiles were in the control of the Soviets and they brought them there as a defense against the threat of US invasion.

If someone else wants to take a swing at debunking Chomsky “Debunker” Paul Bogdanor, have at it.

“THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DISASTROUS RISE OF MISPLACED POWER EXISTS AND WILL PERSIST”
DWIGHT D EISENHOWER UNDERSTOOD THIS, SO BEFORE YOU TALK LIKE YOU THINK YOU KNOW SOMETHING AT LEAST UNDERSTAND THAT HISTORY IS BOUND TO REPEAT ITSELF, IT COULD HAPPEN HERE!

WHERE IS THOMAS PAINE WHEN YOU NEED HIM!

people have too much time on there hands left or right

Chomsky also rants against the military, corporations, and capitalism, but gets rich off of all of them. As Peter Schweizer shows in his book (Do as I say..), Chomsky gets millions from the Pentagon (at MIT, the Military Institute of Technology). Chomsky manufactures consent in left-wingers. How does Chomsky get away with all this? He lives in a country that has earned freedom for everyone, even freedom of speech for hypocrites and sloppy thinkers who use Nazi analogies.