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One More Look At How Fox News Covered The Shirley Sherrod Story

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Since we broke down how Fox News’ coverage could not have possibly led to Shirley Sherrod‘s forced resignation, the story of FNC’s coverage has remained a hot topic on cable news. Dan Abrams and Rick Sanchez debated it, Howard Dean and Chris Wallace got into it and this weekend’s Fox News Watch took on the issue (video below).

Let’s take one more look at exactly how FNC covered the story – as well as the rest of cable news.

“The whole thing is a cautionary tale about believing what you see on the internet,” said host Jon Scott today, summing up the beliefs of those on the panel but also the beliefs of many over the last week. But although it can be universally agreed that Andrew Breitbart is at fault for, knowingly or not, pushing an enormously out-of-context video clip, some want to put Fox News on the same level as Breitbart and BigGovernment.com. It began with the updated statement from the NAACP – the one after they condemned Sherrod the night before. In it, NAACP President Ben Jealous said the organization was “snookered by Fox News and Tea Party Activist Andrew Breitbart.” Both – Fox News, and Breitbart.

But as we’ve laid out here, there are misconceptions about the way FNC covered the story. The truth is, Shirley Sherrod wasn’t mentioned on air until 8:49pmET (according to TV Eyes), during a pre-taped Bill O’Reilly show. It is the fact that it was recorded earlier that makes the timeline more complicated, but what we do know is by the time O’Reilly made it to the air she had already resigned. In fact, before the show was even taped, around 5pmET, she had already resigned (although it hadn’t been made public yet).

But O’Reilly called for her resignation at the time, which led to his apology (and new attack) the next night. The person at Fox News who can be legitimately criticized for jumping to conclusions is O’Reilly. The resignation was mentioned in the 9pmET and 10pmET hours as well. Again, though, clearly it was the fear of FNC’s coverage and not FNC’s actual coverage that forced the USDA, and Obama administration, to act as quickly as it did.

The rest of cable news is in largely the same boat as Fox News. The clip aired on CNN Monday night too – in a report on Anderson Cooper 360 by Joe Johns. In it, Johns described the clip as a “YouTube video” (and no mention of the source), and said it showed Sherrod talking about how she “withheld help to a white farmer.” All three cable news networks covered the story on their morning shows without any mention of Sherrod disputing the context. On MSNBC’s Morning Joe, guest Margaret Carlson of Bloomberg said, “How about if Shirley and Mark Williams, the tea party guy, are locked in a room together as their punishment” – a reference to the legitimately-ousted conservative.

And by 9amET Tuesday, all three cable news networks – CNN, Fox News and MSNBC – were reporting the story in full context. They were all showing the clip (many times), but also all pointing out that Sherrod was speaking out against it. CNN was helped by having Sherrod on-air during American Morning.

Whether it was luck or by-design, the Obama administration enormously overreacted to a clip put out by Breitbart. On Fox News Watch, Kirsten Powers took him on strongly. “There’s something really twisted and sick about that,” she said. “Now he says he didn’t know that, but I say who gave him this video, they need to come forward and say why they set up this woman in this malicious, nasty accusation.”

The knocks on Fox, though, are misplaced. Have they driven the Black Panther story to potentially race-baiting extremes? You could make a case for that. But although it would be convenient to say Fox News’ relentless coverage of this internet video led to Shirley Sherrod’s unfair ouster, it’s just not true.

Here’s Fox News Watch today:

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  • Sean68

    It doesn’t matter what actually happened. This is ideological war. And what’s the first casualty in war? Ya know, Fox’s ultimate goal is the reinstitution of slavery.

  • notsofast

    Sean68 said:
    Ya know, Fox’s ultimate goal is the reinstitution of slavery.

    For you, I would agree.

    You are one stupid asshole lib.

  • The Real Royal King

    I fail to see why we are still talking about FOX’s role in the firing. No serious person has ever claimed that FOX had that role. FOX’s great vice is promoting and propogating the Breitbart lie, with such FOX personalities as Douchey and O’Hannity elevating Breitbart to sainthood. And, on that alone, FOX surrendered its credibility.

    Spiro Agnew provides the FOX Netwok’s methdology: I promise I won’t deceive you except in matters of this sort.

  • juan

    Thanks for the facts! And thanks to Dan!

    DEM/LIBs, Obama, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton have lost on playing that tired and old race-card!

    It doesn’t work anymore!

    CELEBRATE, AMERICA!

    BTW: Hello, Racism!

  • Averreauxii

    notsofast said:

    You are one stupid asshole…..

    It takes one to know one…..notsosmart.

  • MichelleF

    Spiro Agnew provides the FOX Netwok’s methdology: I promise I won’t deceive you except in matters of this sort.

    Royal Race-Baiter, One of BO’s attorney’s is on the line and warned that you’d bettered stop using his 2012 campaign slogan or there will severe consequences.

  • MichelleF

    Royal Race-Baiter, since BO won’t let you use his campaign slogan, Bill Clinton said you could borrow his:

    I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky, not one time.

  • notsofast

    Averreauxii said:
    It takes one to know one…..notsosmart.

    You would know, dbag!

    I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    You got the facts right Steve, but I’m not buying your conclusion.

    The administration didn’t fire Sherrod because they saw the video on Fox News, true.

    The administration fired Sherod because a right-wing smear machine disguised as a news network that has repeatedly race-baited the White House with their “us vs them/Black against White” narrative EXISTS.

    If that wasn’t the FOX M.O. then the White House would not have acted so rashly. They knew by experience that they could not expect fairness from FOX when it comes to race and that is what makes Fox at least partly to blame.

    If there was no history of Fox race-baiting their would be no reason to act rashly.
    I do believe Fox created the ATMOSPHERWE for this to happen and that is why they are to blame.

    Fuck timelines..Fox has been doing this since Obama was nominated. There’s your timeline.

  • murf

    Lesson learned this week ; Progs are easily snookered .

    It’s been fun folks, now I am off to find Big Foot .. .

  • notsofast

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    The administration fired Sherod because a right-wing smear machine disguised as a news network that has repeatedly race-baited the White House with their “us vs them/Black against White” narrative EXISTS.

    That’s not even a proper sentence.

    Race-baiting? Like this?

    “They will tell ya I don’t look like the guys on the dollar bills.”

    “I don’t have all the facts, but it is obvious that the Cambridge Police acted stupidly.”

    “They called the “N” word 15 times” – Oh, well maybe they didn’t.

  • notsofast

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    You got the facts right Steve,

    but I will not let them sway my opinion.”

  • notsofast

    murf said:
    Lesson learned this week ; Progs are easily snookered .

    Barry is afraid of Glenn Beck!

  • MediaWhore

    Actually this is the final word on how Fox News covered the story. Starting at 2:45, check out the hilarious flip-flopping that goes on amongst the Fox tards:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zTx37smdZo

  • Pablo

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    The administration fired Sherod because a right-wing smear machine disguised as a news network that has repeatedly race-baited the White House with their “us vs them/Black against White” narrative EXISTS.

    No, the Administration fired Sherrod because they’re morons. The Great Fox News Conspiracy may be their grandest fear, but that fear doesn’t excuse not doing any due diligence at all before FIRING someone, and making public announcements about it.

  • Pablo

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    I do believe Fox created the ATMOSPHERWE for this to happen and that is why they are to blame.

    I believe the Administration acted stupidly, without all the facts, again.

  • Bootleghaircut

    Steve K-

    “But although it can be universally agreed that Andrew Breitbart is at fault for, knowingly or not, pushing an enormously out-of-context video clip, some want to put Fox News on the same level as Breitbart and BigGovernment.com”

    First of all the conservatives have all come out from under their rocks to dispute
    that “universal agreement”-they do not see Breitbart as being at fault and never will
    hence why the NAACP pivoted and attacked Fox-Breitbart is a nobody and if you
    have to wrestle with the right wing noise machine why go for the guppy-you go for
    Fox. Note the WH wasn’t afraid of Breitbart but after seeing the nonstop loop
    of the panther story what do you think the assumption was as to how fox would
    cover the story? You think history wasn’t about to repeat itself? the white house
    knows it has very little time to combat the 24 hour smear machine that is Fox
    so they made a decisive move.

    If anybody is getting a pass in this mess it’s Breitbart and that says alot
    about the sad state of media in this country.

  • notsofast

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    hey knew by experience that they could not expect fairness from FOX

    But BFD- no one watches FOX- you said that yourself!

  • BR

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    You got the facts right Steve, but I’m not buying your conclusion. The administration didn’t fire Sherrod because they saw the video on Fox News, true. The administration fired Sherod because a right-wing smear machine disguised as a news network that has repeatedly race-baited the White House with their “us vs them/Black against White” narrative EXISTS. If that wasn’t the FOX M.O. then the White House would not have acted so rashly. They knew by experience that they could not expect fairness from FOX when it comes to race and that is what makes Fox at least partly to blame. If there was no history of Fox race-baiting their would be no reason to act rashly.I do elieve Fox created the ATMOSPHERWE for this to happen and that is why they are to blame. Fuck timelines..Fox has been doing this since Obama was nominated. There’s your timeline.

    Bullshit

  • juan

    Breitbart is a HERO!

    Can’t wait to see more tapes he has!

  • timzank

    Good job Steve, while some of your loyal libs here refuse to allow facts to get in the way, some of us do appreciate a fair report.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Canaan/666670819 Terry Canaan

    When FOX covered it isn’t as important as HOW they covered it and how they covered it was “SHIRLEY SHERROD IS RACIST! RACIST! RACISTRACISTRACIST!!!” When FOX began covering the Sherrod story, they were reporting Breitbart’s take almost verbatim. Timing doesn’t really matter all that much.

    FOX was as much a part of this hoax as Breitbart was and they don’t deserve a defense on the minor point of when they started screaming “RACIST!!!”

  • Azarkhan

    A surprise video of Barack Obama was presented to the ultra-liberal gathering of the Netroots Nation in Las Vegas on Saturday that included MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow listing his accomplishments.

    What does it say about this administration that it wouldn’t find it at all unseemly to use the most left-leaning television network, along with one of its most liberal hosts, to propagandize political conference attendees?

    Unconcerned with the picture this painted, Obama told the gathering, “Change hasn’t come fast enough for too many Americans…But I hope you take a moment to consider all we’ve accomplished so far.”

    http://www.thefoxnation.com/rachel-maddow/2010/07/25/appropriate-obama-uses-nbc-news-anchor-pitch-his-policies

  • BatBoy

    Unfortunately for Shirley Sherrod she has turned out to be the RACIST.

    You really do find out what people are made of during the tough times….for Shirley this was a tough time.

  • TfT

    Interesting piece about Rachel and Obama….interesting also that the only piece about Rachel and a politician on the board, is about Rachel and Rubio. Too funny.

    Yes, Shirley did show her racism in the end of all of this, just as she had in the beginning.

    The media went overboard criticizing everybody but Shirley….just like the media goes overboard calling the tea partiers racist, despite NO evidence of such.

    Nice piece Steve.

  • Iris

    juanda, GTK u r waiting with bated breath 4 another of your beloved britefarts videos cause nobody else is, K?

  • juan

    Whatver Obama and DEM/LIBs are offering, America doesn’t want it!

    100 more days -

    November and Investigations cometh -

  • the real john t

    Azarkhan said:
    What does it say about this administration that it wouldn’t find it at all unseemly to use the most left-leaning television network, along with one of its most liberal hosts, to propagandize political conference attendees?

    Who did Bush and Cheney give all their “exclusive” interviews to? I think that was Fox. Who was the only person to accompany Rumsfeld on his farewell tour to Iraq? Well I think that was Hannity, one of the most right leaning host Fox has. Who was the only one to accompany Rumsfeld to Gitmo for an exclusive interview? Well that was O’Reilly, and you no who he works for.

    And ‘foxnation’, give me a friggin break. I can’t even believe a human being would link to that disgussting site.

  • juan

    the real john t said:
    And ‘foxnation’, give me a friggin break. I can’t even believe a human being would link to that disgussting site.

    Obama, you LOSE!

    Fox News, you RULE!

  • http://apostrophejones.com Apostrophe jones

    As most know , Gibbs is calling the shots at the White House . Gibbs is from Alabama , so he must be a cracker . As a cracker , he is prejudiced against all who are not fat crackers , like himself . Gibbs fired Shirley , and Barry better watch his step around Gibbs . Bada bing .

  • valkyrie101

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    You got the facts right Steve, but I’m not buying your conclusion. The administration didn’t fire Sherrod because they saw the video on Fox News, true. The administration fired Sherod because a right-wing smear machine disguised as a news network that has repeatedly race-baited the White House with their “us vs them/Black against White” narrative EXISTS. If that wasn’t the FOX M.O. then the White House would not have acted so rashly. They knew by experience that they could not expect fairness from FOX when it comes to race and that is what makes Fox at least partly to blame. If there was no history of Fox race-baiting their would be no reason to act rashly.I do believe Fox created the ATMOSPHERWE for this to happen and that is why they are to blame. Fuck timelines..Fox has been doing this since Obama was nominated. There’s your timeline.

    Yep.

  • the real john t

    juan said:
    Obama, you LOSE!
    Fox News, you RULE!

    So I guess you can’t deny anything I wrote, so you just have to make a stupid comment.

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    The past two weeks was a close one for ‘We Liberals’. The Tea Party almost won the race argument until Mark Williams wrote his letter to President Lincoln on the behalf of the NAACP. I was glad ‘We Liberals’ took out a Tea Party leader. The conservatives thought they could strike down the NAACP with the Shirley Sherrod story but their plan backfire. Also the Shirley Sherrod story gave us a bonus by derailing Fox News’ ‘Scary Black Man’ campaign.

  • Iris

    Well, juanda was partially right . fox does rule the Right Wing geezers, they even hate their grandchildren (especially the biracial ones) cause fox tells them to but the good news is as the geezers die out so will the geezer channel

  • the real john t

    OH, and Azarkhan look who Bush used to spread his RW agenda all over the country.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/18/one-big-happy-family/

  • http://apostrophejones.com Apostrophe jones

    The black-hearted , mean spirited , profane waste of carbon Iris spews her venom once more . She’ll make someone a fine ex-wife .

  • AngelPeters

    When does the comments by Fox and Friends crew fit into the timeline? Doocey, Camerota, and Kilmeade were fine one of those mornings sliming Sherrod.

  • Iris

    IJTDG, concise and to he point, really damn good and the extra added bonus fox and britefart will never be able to pull that crap again cause nobody will listen. They really screwed their lets get Obama agenda

  • http://apostrophejones.com Apostrophe jones

    Also illiterate , unintelligible and uninformed .

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    the fact that oriely’s show was recorded makes it complicated?
    haha…should have gone with oriely’s gut and said…
    “FUCK IT…WE’LL DO IT LIVE”

  • BatBoy

    Iris said:
    Well, juanda was partially right . fox does rule the Right Wing geezers, they even hate their grandchildren (especially the biracial ones) cause fox tells them to but the good news is as the geezers die out so will the geezer channel

    Iris You are the RACIST! You display it every time you say what you said above! How sad for you!

    My children are Bi-Racial…which means their kids are too.

  • notsofast

    This was a bad week for Negroes no matter how you look at it.

  • Iris

    Oh BathBoy seriously!!?? you really think anybody is gonna believe that, you’re so scared of black people that you have to keep trying to belittle Ms. Sherrod to make yourself feel better, Puleeze!

  • notsofast

    Iris said:
    Oh BathBoy seriously!!?? you really think anybody is gonna believe that, you’re so scared of black people that you have to keep trying to belittle Ms. Sherrod to make yourself feel better, Puleeze!

    Oh, negro, please!

  • VegasRudy

    Sean68 said:
    Fox’s ultimate goal is the reinstitution of slavery.

    That is just as stupid as NAACP and Barack Obama acting stupidly.

  • the real john t

    notsofast said:
    This was a bad week for Negroes no matter how you look at it.

    notsofast said:
    Oh, negro, please!

    Oh look here, the poster boy for the RWers on here. Where is MichelleF to scream her regular race baiting bullshit?

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    notsofast said:
    This was a bad week for Negroes no matter how you look at it.

    Apparently you have been watching Fox News. I’ve heard there is a rehab program for your problem (drinking too much of the Kool-Aid).

  • notsofast

    AngelPeters said:
    Doocey, Camerota, and Kilmeade were fine one of those mornings sliming Sherrod.

    She slimed herself.

    “You know, I haven’t seen such a mean-spirited people as I’ve seen lately over this issue of health care. Some of the racism we thought was buried. Didn’t it surface? Now, we endured eight years of the Bush’s and we didn’t do the stuff these Republicans are doing because you have a black President.”

    She also accused Fox News of racism, telling Strupp that “they are after a bigger thing, they would love to take us back to… where black people were looking down, not looking white folks in the face, not being able to compete for a job out there and not be a whole person.”

    “Breitbart wants to take us back to the days of slavery.”

  • notsofast

    the real john t said:
    the real john t says:

    Hey race-baiter

    That sound ya hear is me pulling your head out of your racist ass!

  • notsofast

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    Apparently you have been watching Fox News. I’ve heard there is a rehab program for your problem (drinking too much of the Kool-Aid).

    Wrong, negro.

    Try again!

  • the real john t

    notsofast said:
    Hey race-baiter

    Why don’t you just use the word ‘nigger’ like you’re dying to do, you racist scum.

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    notsofast said:
    Wrong, negro.

    Try again!

    I am here to help you on your road to recovery. The first step is to acknowledge your problem. Please everyone show some support for this man. He is another victim of Fox News.

  • notsofast

    the real john t said:
    Why don’t you just use the word ‘nigger

    That’s the word used by libs not conservatives.

    Thanks for showing your racism, johnt!

  • notsofast

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    I am here to help you on your road to recovery. The first step is to acknowledge your problem. Please everyone show some support for this man. He is another victim of Fox News.

    And which dwarf are you?

  • Iris

    Grampy nutso, apparenty you’re remembering the days when you would scream segregation forever at little girls going to school, how’d that work out for ya?

  • ImRubberYoureGlue

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    You got the facts right Steve, but I’m not buying your conclusion.

    The administration didn’t fire Sherrod because they saw the video on Fox News, true.

    The administration fired Sherod because a right-wing smear machine disguised as a news network that has repeatedly race-baited the White House with their “us vs them/Black against White” narrative EXISTS.

    If that wasn’t the FOX M.O. then the White House would not have acted so rashly. They knew by experience that they could not expect fairness from FOX when it comes to race and that is what makes Fox at least partly to blame.

    If there was no history of Fox race-baiting their would be no reason to act rashly.
    I do believe Fox created the ATMOSPHERWE for this to happen and that is why they are to blame.

    Fuck timelines..Fox has been doing this since Obama was nominated. There’s your timeline.

    And you expect people to support a white house that gets it’s intel from faux news.

    I have higher standards, so should you.

  • juan

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    The past two weeks was a close one for ‘We Liberals’. The Tea Party almost won the race argument until Mark Williams wrote his letter to President Lincoln on the behalf of the NAACP. I was glad ‘We Liberals’ took out a Tea Party leader. The conservatives thought they could strike down the NAACP with the Shirley Sherrod story but their plan backfire. Also the Shirley Sherrod story gave us a bonus by derailing Fox News’ ‘Scary Black Man’ campaign.

    Some in this site have commented that the New Black Panthers story was over!

    Uh-Oh!

    FYI:

    Yesterday, Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, published a letter to President Obama calling for a special investigation into the Department of Justice decision to dismiss the voter intimidation case again the New Black Panther Party. Based on testimony of J. Christian Adams, the former Department of Justice attorney who worked on the New Black Panther case, Smith is concerned that “the Department has adopted a policy of enforcing voting rights laws in a racially discriminatory manner.”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Rep-Smith-Is-Justice-Department-ignoring-voter-intimidation-against-whites-99171409.html

  • notsofast

    the real john t said:
    Why don’t you just use the word ‘nigger’

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    ImJustThatDamnGood says:

    Johnt just used the bad “N” word- save him!

  • notsofast

    Iris said:
    Grampy nutso, apparenty you’re remembering the days when you would scream segregation forever at little girls going to school, how’d that work out for ya?

    Negro, please!

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    notsofast said:
    And which dwarf are you?

    He is seeing dwarfs… oh no it is worst than I first thought.

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    You would know, dbag!

    I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!

    Dear God, not only are you a horrible arguer you are also a pretty disgusting racist as well. I’m starting to get a picture of you notsofast. Again, sorry I wasn’t around today, you made a lot of interesting comments. You know, I’m done trying to help you with your arguing techniques. Now, you are a fascinating specimen. I’ve unleashed quite a bit against you, I’ve even given you opps to attack a few of my flaws. I’ve even handed them to you on a silver platter, one’s that don’t follow your “stupid lying lib” narrative. And then, you decide the best way to beat me is to ignore me. Now, you’re a racist. Not even a secret racist. So, you are a 182 racist that may or may not have mother issues that seems to run away when people hit you head on. There’s a lot of self esteem issues running from you. I have a therapist friend (not sure her political affiliation, but that won’t matter, the one time she has a dissenting opinion, she’s a stupid lying lib) who could help.

    the real john t said:
    Oh look here, the poster boy for the RWers on here. Where is MichelleF to scream her regular race baiting bullshit?

    The recommendation is to not make him your poster boy. He’s got issues. Much the same way it was right to purge Mark Williams from the Tea Party. Right Wingers aren’t idiots, they do have good ideas and aren’t dumb enough to spout racist rhetoric. It’s just that sometimes the loudest ones can paint an unrealistic picture for a group.

  • notsofast

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    ImJustThatDamnGood says:

    I’m trying to picture you with a personality.

  • VegasRudy

    I can imagine a long line of ambulace chasers knocking on Sherrod’s door because her initial reaction to her firing is different from what she is saying now.

    From the Politico:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39961.html

    Asked about the NAACP’s actions during an interview with CNN on Tuesday, Sherrod said the only reason the video surfaced was in response to an NAACP resolution accusing the tea party of using “racist” tactics. “They got into a fight with the tea party, and all of this came out as a result of that,” Sherrod said.

    The former Agriculture Department official also said she never heard from the NAACP to hear her side of the story prior to its statement on the video. “The NAACP has not tried to contact me one time, and that’s why this happened,” she said. “I would have appreciated having the NAACP at least contact me … to try to get the truth about what happened.”
    -

    Her lawyers probably told her not to repeat what she told CNN initially because that would take the focus off her and focus on the NAACP and Breitbart’s war of words. You can’t have libel against Bretibart and Fox News if there was no intent and a libel suit against the NAACP more plausible.

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    Permatiltx says:

    I love how naturally boring, verbose, pompous and pedantic you are.

    BTW, it’s now 194!

  • the real john t

    notsofast said:
    Johnt just used the bad “N” word- save him!

    Yeah, like you don’t use it every day. The poster boy of the RWers on here.

  • notsofast

    the real john t said:
    Yeah, like you don’t use it every day.

    Projection, johnt!

  • Iris

    veggedoutrudy. and your point would be?

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    notsofast said:
    I’m trying to picture you with a personality.

    Step one: Say no to Fox News… Step Two: Stop drinking the Kool-Aid… Step Three: It is plain to see if you every relapse… it starts back at one. Yeah, Yeah ,Yeah

  • notsofast

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    mJustThatDamnGood says:</blockquote

    Ya know, I think you were the real cause of the "Lombardi's Big Snooze."

  • the real john t

    notsofast said:
    I love how naturally boring, verbose, pompous and pedantic you are.

    OH LOOK! He learned a bunch of new words and he thinks it makes him look smart. What a cute little boy.

  • notsofast

    the real john t said:
    OH LOOK! He learned a bunch of new words

    You said you favorite, johnny boy:

    the real john t said:
    Why don’t you just use the word ‘nigger’

  • stoogedudes

    Look, I’m not an apologist for Fox News by any means, but I think Fox News got an unfair amount of blame on this. EVERYBODY overreacted. EVERYBODY messed up.

    It looks like this dead horse will be beaten for a long time to come. It was intriguing to watch at first, but now it’s old and I wish it’d go away.

    By the way, totally off topic, but you’re missing out if you haven’t seen “Inception” yet. Freaking brilliant film and unlike “Sex and the City 2″ and “Clash of the Titans”, it makes you think. Definitely going back to see it again, if not three times. Like “Fight Club”, it requires multiple viewings to catch things you didn’t the first couple times around.

  • notsofast

    stoogedudes said:
    unlike “Sex and the City 2″ and “Clash of the Titans”, it makes you think.

    You thought those would make ya think?

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    I love how naturally boring, verbose, pompous and pedantic you are.

    BTW, it’s now 194!

    You really should take the time to read these things. Verbose, sure, I’ll take that, highly accurate. Pompous, well, sure, that makes sense. I called myself arrogant and you typed that word into thesaurus.com. I am certainly glad that you started doing that. As far as boring goes, the same “stupid lying lib” and then the “child” thing got old really quick. At least you are expanding your vocab. I don’t know if I’m necessarily boring. That’s a matter of opinion. Now we also may never know if you thought of these slams yourself, or I had to give them to you. Possibly. So, the intellectual scares you as well? That would be why you would slam me for it. We know you are a)racist and b) have low self esteem issues. Now, you will call me a liar for this. That’s okay. I’m doing an analysis based on what you’ve written, similar to what you’ve attempted (and failed I might add) based on the words I’ve said.

    Are you afraid that I may get past that shell of blind hatred that you use to protect yourself? I’m getting in there, aren’t I? The thing you should be worried about is that my comments start getting smaller and people start reading what I say. That you should be afraid of. People aren’t attacking you back for who you truly are. But I’m starting to get there. I wonder how much more I need to pull back before you see the monster inside yourself. Or do you not know he’s there? Or are you happy he’s there? (Or she, it could be female.)

    Also, I know you know that your IQ doesn’t raise 12 points in one day. Meant to be funny or not, that, alas, is a stupid thing to say. (And a lie, just like the lying libs. Can I start calling you lying lib now. I think I will.)

  • notsofast

    Snore!

    pal, forget it- you are boring.

    Not interested.

    Goodbye, and FU!

  • Permatiltx

    stoogedudes said:
    Look, I’m not an apologist for Fox News by any means, but I think Fox News got an unfair amount of blame on this. EVERYBODY overreacted. EVERYBODY messed up.

    It looks like this dead horse will be beaten for a long time to come. It was intriguing to watch at first, but now it’s old and I wish it’d go away.

    By the way, totally off topic, but you’re missing out if you haven’t seen “Inception” yet. Freaking brilliant film and unlike “Sex and the City 2″ and “Clash of the Titans”, it makes you think. Definitely going back to see it again, if not three times. Like “Fight Club”, it requires multiple viewings to catch things you didn’t the first couple times around.

    I agree. FOX did get an unfair amount of the blame. And it’s too bad since it took away from the real story I think. A lot of people screwed up here.

    Also, loved Inception as well. Saw it my second time today. And you do notice more things in that second viewing.

  • stoogedudes

    notsofast said:
    You thought those would make ya think?

    Uhmmmmm, no, never said I did think they would make me think.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    juan…
    are you talking about the same lamar smith who wanted to impeach obama because smith is a fucking birther?
    haha…that is the funniest thing i have heard…thank you so much for that.
    it will be funny when j adams has to apologize for being just another lying republican asshole like britebart and all those other fakes.
    haha…what a fucking joke

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    Snore!

    pal, forget it- you are boring.

    Not interested.

    Goodbye, and FU!

    So, boring is your attack back. Holy shit, you are scared. I’m starting to hit the nerve. I’m not giving this up, notsofast. You may have given up on yourself, but I’m not giving up on you.

    And if you weren’t scared, you wouldn’t use the trite “boring” excuse. You’d take me on. I’m asking, no, begging for it. Come on, don’t like it when someone returns with their claws out. Listen, when you’ve removed the tail from between your legs, come on back. I’ll help you through this.

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King says:
    July 25, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    I fail to see why we are still talking about FOX’s role in the firing. No serious person has ever claimed that FOX had that role.

    Didn’t Howard Dean try to make that very point?

    Terry Canaan says:
    July 25, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    When FOX covered it isn’t as important as HOW they covered it and how they covered it was “SHIRLEY SHERROD IS RACIST! RACIST! RACISTRACISTRACIST!!!” When FOX began covering the Sherrod story, they were reporting Breitbart’s take almost verbatim.

    Actually… that’s not true. And you do realize that CNN and MSNBC also reported on it too? That was part of the article.

    Timing doesn’t really matter all that much.

    Except for the people who are trying to blame FNC for getting this woman fired… which is false.

    FOX was as much a part of this hoax as Breitbart was and they don’t deserve a defense on the minor point of when they started screaming “RACIST!!!”

    I dare you to find transcripts of them “screaming racist.” Come on… show us.

    It just didn’t happen.

  • notsofast

    snore-

    You are boring!

    Bore another lying lib, child!

  • Permatiltx

    the real john t said:
    OH LOOK! He learned a bunch of new words and he thinks it makes him look smart. What a cute little boy.

    Yeah, that was my fault. I showed him thesaurus.com. Sorry about that.

    And if you want to know how to beat him, I would recommend reading my comments to him. He’s running right now. He’ll call you boring and stuff, maybe even lying lib (his second favorite unoriginal quote. His favorite is “child.” See, I’m still coming after him and he refuses to fight back. And it’s a lot of fun too. Highly recommend it.

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    snore-

    You are boring!

    Bore another lying lib, child!

    Well, I may be boring. But I’m not a coward.

  • notsofast

    yes yo are!

  • notsofast

    I like that you take so many words to say nothing!

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    I like that you take so many words to say nothing!

    Then why don’t you come back at those words. I take everyone of your words. Piece them together. Try to figure out what you’re trying to say. Analysis. I’m not a great analyzer, not trained, but I do like to do it. It’s a bad idea to take things at face value. It’s not all black and white.

    So, too many words hurt you? Okay, I’ll cut back.

    But I have to know what your definition of coward is.

  • notsofast

    LOL

    Listen, I know ya broke down like a baby when I caught ya lying, lib- but don’t take it so personally.

    You are so juvenile and hurt, I know- but it will heal, lib!

  • notsofast

    notsofast said:
    So, too many words hurt you?

    Poor perception again, lying lib!

  • notsofast

    Tell what you did to become this uninteresting.

  • Permatiltx

    the real john t said:
    Yeah, like you don’t use it every day. The poster boy of the RWers on here.

    Also, the right on this site should also consider purging notsofast from your ranks. Kind of like the Tea Party purged Mark Williams. It’s dangerous that he’s speaking for your side. I have had some intelligent debate with a few of the right in here. And he just brings your opinions and your beliefs down. Especially when he claims to want to own someone with an opposing opinion so that he could, his quote: I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black! That may not be the person you want speaking for you.

  • notsofast

    -Tell what you did to become this uninteresting.

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    yes yo are!

    Surprised you didn’t go with I know you are but what am I?

  • newzmaker

    I don’t get the left’s obsession with Fox News. Fox News has always maintained that their network is the alternative, to the typically liberally-biased politically correct media. How straightforward is that, coming from a news outlet? No one can be forced to watch Fox News, so turn the channel. The liberal media always goes with the politically correct slant on the news, in order [not] to offend particular groups or individuals, with the actual truth. I find it hard to believe, that most Americans prefer the sanitized PC version of the liberal news networks. Oh, wait, they don’t. This is why Fox News is Number One. LOL.

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!

    That’s one of my favorites- I hope it is yours too!

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    Surprised you didn’t go with I know you are but what am I?

    That’s your speed.

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    LOL

    Listen, I know ya broke down like a baby when I caught ya lying, lib- but don’t take it so personally.

    You are so juvenile and hurt, I know- but it will heal, lib!

    Did you just call me juvenile? Okay, well, I have to use your tactics. You seem to understand them better. Liar! You lie! I didn’t break down like a baby when you caught me lying. I took that like a man and apologized. Have you ever taken anything like a man? Just curious.

    Juvenile? Well, my responses have been a lot of things, but juvenile may not be the best analysis. Now, you’ve called me a lot of names, more than I’ve called you I would say. You’re responses have been juvenile, and then like a catty fourteen year old girl, you went and badmouthed me in a different thread. One that I wasn’t even a part of at the time. Hmmm, I’m juvenile?

    And I wouldn’t say I’m hurt. I’m having a fucking field day with this.

  • the real john t

    notsofast said:
    You are so juvenile and hurt, I know- but it will heal, lib!

    notsofast said:
    Bore another lying lib, child!

    Look at that, the little boy notsosmart can’t come and refute any comment made against him. H’e's just got to come back with a bunch of juvenile bullshit.

  • notsofast

    LMAO

    The real johnt is Permatiltx superior!

    Finally john, you met someone dumber than you are!

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    I didn’t break down like a baby when you caught me lying.

    You broke like a baby!

    LOL

    I had your lib lunch!

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    That’s your speed.

    Again, you are really horrible at this.

  • newzmaker

    Here’s a perfect example of the PC liberal media; Fox News will report that Obama’s numbers are falling, due to his unpopular policies, while the liberal media will report that Obama’s numbers are falling, because whitey is out to get Obama. White liberal guilt usually results in projection of their own attitudes, to others. Always projection, never facts.

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    Again, you are really horrible at this.

    Sorry- no projection, child.

    Try harder!

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    You broke like a baby!

    LOL

    I had your lib lunch!

    Anyway, got to go. I’ll be out tomorrow, but I’ll be back tomorrow night. Gives you 24 hours to come up with something that would actually work against me.

    And you may have had my lib lunch, but I’ve had you for dinner, midnight snack, breakfast, a light brunch and maybe a few beers after work with some old friends from college. Anyway, take care. I’ll be back tomorrow. Kisses.

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    I’ll be out tomorrow, but I’ll be back tomorrow night.

    Thanks for the warning and grow the hell up you pompous, insufferable lying lib.

  • notsofast

    Smooches, loser!

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    Gives you 24 hours to come up with something that would actually work against me.

    Oh, and next time- be original- you are so repetitive and dull.

  • the real john t

    newzmaker said:
    No one can be forced to watch Fox News, so turn the channel. The liberal media always goes with the politically correct slant on the news,

    So don’t watch that “evil liberal media”. Turn the channel. Do you see the hypocrisy in your comment?

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    Thanks for the warning and grow the hell up you pompous, insufferable lying lib.

    Kisses. Until tomorrow. Again, to reiterate, you are really horrible at comebacks. (Wait five minutes before you write something, I may hit the computer one more time before bed.)

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    Until tomorrow. Again, to reiterate, you are really horrible at comebacks. (Wait five minutes before you write something, I may hit the computer one more time before bed.)

    Get original, man- you are a dullard now!

  • notsofast

    Did every one see johnt say n@gger?

    talk about a racist!

  • sally1975

    Steve, FoxNews.com/Fox Nation posted the video prior to Ms Sherrod’s resignation, prior to anyone vetting it. So Fox News (by way of the online platform) did report Breitbart’s “story” prior to Sherrod being ousted. Like other news outlets, I would assume that Fox News would vet everything going on their website as they supposedly do on their television channel.

    Source: http://mediamatters.org/research/201007220004

  • notsofast

    sally1975 said:
    Steve, FoxNews.com/Fox Nation posted the video prior to Ms Sherrod’s resignation, prior to anyone vetting it. So Fox News (by way of the online platform) did report Breitbart’s “story” prior to Sherrod being ousted. Like other news outlets, I would assume that Fox News would vet everything going on their website as they supposedly do on their television channel.

    Source: http://mediamatters.org/research/201007220004

    LOL

    Mediate reported on that on Wednesday!!!

    LMAO

    MM breaks news again!

  • notsofast

    the real john t says:
    July 25, 2010 at 10:40 pm (Quote)
    1 2
    notsofast said:
    Hey race-baiter
    Why don’t you just use the word ‘nigger’

    johnt, you are indeed a racist!

  • yweston

    Fox would have driven that story into the ground. The truth came out before they could put their “smear” campaign into “FULL FORCE”.

    It’s funny that anyone would thing the PUBLIC doesn’t know that Fox was salivating from the minute they heard the story.
    I bet people won’t be so quick to believe Fox’s “trumped up” videos as fast as they did.

  • notsofast

    yweston said:
    I bet people won’t be so quick to believe Fox’s “trumped up” videos

    LOL

    It wasn’t FOX’s video.

  • betweentwoevils

    Either

    Shirley Sharrod is a racist and the Administration did the right thing by firing her

    or

    She has been wronged by Breitbart and is indeed not a racist and the Administration did the wrong thing in firing her and then apologizing.

    Those on the Right can’t have it both ways.

    Below see highlites of Fox News Coverage of Sharrod.

    http://bit.ly/aeDFEz

  • newzmaker

    the real john t said:
    So don’t watch that “evil liberal media”. Turn the channel. Do you see the hypocrisy in your comment?

    Actually, no, I don’t see the hypocrisy. I keep up with all the TV news, from every POV. You know, keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer. Also, I’m not calling for all the liberal TV news channels, to be shut down, as so many on the left are doing to Fox News.

  • notsofast

    betweentwoevils said:
    betweentwoevils says:
    July 25, 2010 at 11:58 pm betweentwoevils(Quote)
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    Either

    Shirley Sharrod is a racist and the Administration did the right thing by firing her

    She is a racist.

    “You know, I haven’t seen such a mean-spirited people as I’ve seen lately over this issue of health care. Some of the racism we thought was buried. Didn’t it surface? Now, we endured eight years of the Bush’s and we didn’t do the stuff these Republicans are doing because you have a black President.”

    She also accused Fox News of racism, telling Strupp that “they are after a bigger thing, they would love to take us back to… where black people were looking down, not looking white folks in the face, not being able to compete for a job out there and not be a whole person.”

    “Breitbart wants to take us back to the days of slavery.”

  • the real john t

    notsofast said:
    Did every one see johnt say n@gger?

    This will be my last response to your ignorant ass. Because you are too ignorant to realize what my point was in my comment to you. You kept throwing out ‘negro’ this and ‘negro’ that and you know damn well the word you really wanted to use. So quit trying to hide it. You are one of the dumbest people I’ve read on the internet.

  • notsofast

    the real john t said:
    the real john t says:

    John you said N@gger- be proud, you racist!

  • notsofast

    the real john t said:
    You kept throwing out ‘negro’ this and ‘negro’ that

    John only in your racist world would the word negro equal the word n@gger.

  • the real john t

    newzmaker said:
    Actually, no, I don’t see the hypocrisy. I keep up with all the TV news, from every POV.

    But liberals aren’t suppose to check out Fox if they don’t like it? So according to you it’s just Repubs that can check out networks they don’t like.

  • betweentwoevils

    I am glad notsofast is giving the Obama Administration credit for doing the right thing.

  • notsofast

    betweentwoevils said:
    I am glad notsofast is giving the Obama Administration credit for doing the right thing.

    She is a racist, but she shouldn’t have been fired.

    If they fired every racist, too many libs would be out of work.

  • newzmaker

    the real john t said:
    But liberals aren’t suppose to check out Fox if they don’t like it? So according to you it’s just Repubs that can check out networks they don’t like.

    I’m not commenting on behalf on Repubs. I view America in terms of:

    Liberals: looney 19% of the US population.
    Non-liberals: 81% sane Americans.

  • betweentwoevils

    According to notsofast only liberals are racists.

    No center ground for some.

  • betweentwoevils

    Liberals: looney 19% of the US population.
    Non-liberals: 81% sane Americans.

    Wow, after the next elections only conservatives will be elected.

  • notsofast

    betweentwoevils said:
    According to notsofast only liberals are racists.

    No center ground for some.

    I had my lib hat on when I wrote that.

  • newzmaker

    I meant to say, “I’m not commenting on behalf OF Repubs.”

  • the real john t

    newzmaker said:
    Non-liberals: 81% sane Americans.

    Could you explain how Obama got elected ?

  • notsofast

    betweentwoevils said:
    Wow, after the next elections only conservatives will be elected.

    and moderates.

  • notsofast

    the real john t said:
    Could you explain how Obama got elected ?

    No one can.

  • betweentwoevils

    The problem as I see it, the conservatives call moderates “liberal” . Liberals call moderates “Conservative”. I hear this all the time; and I know it is all relative… what I would like to see is the percentage of Americans who call themselves Moderate and not Liberal or Conservative.

    What does a moderate stand for? Where have all the moderate republicans gone? Are blue-dog Dems. considered moderate by the right?

  • JackSpeedman

    The libs are just angry because FOX is the true name in news. Get ready libs when your negro president gets the boot in 2012.

  • betweentwoevils

    JackSpeedman said:
    The libs are just angry because FOX is the true name in news. Get ready libs when your negro president gets the boot in 2012.

    Why do you call our president a “negro”? I really don’t think that was necessary. He is our president until 2012 or 2016 depending the outcome of the election.

  • the real john t

    JackSpeedman said:
    The libs are just angry because FOX is the true name in propaganda.

    There. you got it right.

  • newzmaker

    the real john t said:
    Could you explain how Obama got elected ?

    Most Independents actually believed Obama, when he offered ‘hope and change.’ In 2008, US citizens, in spite of party affiliation, viewed the Repubs in DC, as the scum of the earth, with their reckless spending and failure to regulate Wall Street, plus their arrogancy. Anything but Repubs, was sweeping the nation. I believe, personally, though, that Hillary would be president, if not for corrupt outside forces. Investigations by known Dems, are proving that Hillary should be America’s president, if you take away all the illegitimate votes cast. Now that Obama is president, and Dems are in control, most Americans are beginning to remember why they fired most of the Dems, in 1994. November’s elections will be, ‘anything but Dems.’ Americans have quite a problem these days, deciding which party is the lesser of 2 evils. Both are evil as hell.

  • betweentwoevils

    betweentwoevils said:
    Why do you call our president a “negro”? I really don’t think that was necessary. He is our president until 2012 or 2016 depending the outcome of the election.

    Comments like this do a disservice to the Republican Party. They ward off moderate voters who don’t see race or gender as an issue when selecting our president.

  • juan

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    juan…are you talking about the same lamar smith who wanted to impeach obama because smith is a fucking birther?haha…that is the funniest thing i have heard…thank you so much for that.it will be funny when j adams has to apologize for being just another lying republican asshole like britebart and all those other fakes.haha…what a fucking joke

    Well, IMPEACHMENT is not off the table!

    . . . . . .For the first time in American history, we have a man in the White House who consciously and brazenly disregards his oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution. That’s why I say the greatest threat to our Constitution, our safety and our liberties, is internal. Our president is an enemy of our Constitution, and, as such, he is a danger to our safety, our security and our personal freedoms.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/22/the-case-for-impeachment/

  • betweentwoevils

    newzmaker said:
    Most Independents actually believed Obama, when he offered ‘hope and change.’ In 2008, US citizens, in spite of party affiliation, viewed the Repubs in DC, as the scum of the earth, with their reckless spending and failure to regulate Wall Street, plus their arrogancy. Anything but Repubs, was sweeping the nation. I believe, personally, though, that Hillary would be president, if not for corrupt outside forces. Investigations by known Dems, are proving that Hillary should be America’s president, if you take away all the illegitimate votes cast. Now that Obama is president, and Dems are in control, most Americans are beginning to remember why they fired most of the Dems, in 1994. November’s elections will be, ‘anything but Dems.’ Americans have quite a problem these days, deciding which party is the lesser of 2 evils. Both are evil as hell.

    I am in agreement with you…no doubt that you figured out that my moniker is based on the two party evils.

  • the real john t

    newzmaker said:
    if you take away all the illegitimate votes cast.

    And just what “illegitimate votes” were cast. And don’t even start about ACORN because you’ll make yourself look like a fool.

  • the real john t

    juan said:
    . . . . . .For the first time in American history, we have a man in the White House who consciously and brazenly disregards his oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution.

    Who was it that called the Constitution just a “goddamn piece of paper” ? Grow up boy.

  • the real john t

    BTW Juan, what has Obama done to not protect and defend the Constitution? Please explain.

  • the real john t

    juan said:
    Well, IMPEACHMENT is not off the table!

    An opinion article from Tom Tancredo ? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You might as well have brought up something from Rush Limbaugh.

  • newzmaker

    the real john t said:
    And just what “illegitimate votes” were cast. And don’t even start about ACORN because you’ll make yourself look like a fool.

    Courtesy of Dem activists: http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

  • ImNotBlue

    yweston says:
    July 25, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Fox would have driven that story into the ground. The truth came out before they could put their “smear” campaign into “FULL FORCE”.

    Yeah, so we should be angry because it’s something FOX “would have done,” even though they didn’t? Yeesh.

    It’s funny that anyone would thing the PUBLIC doesn’t know that Fox was salivating from the minute they heard the story.

    Or… they saw it on CNN and MSNBC as well. Were they “salivating” too?

    I bet people won’t be so quick to believe Fox’s “trumped up” videos as fast as they did.

    Or CNN’s or MSNBC’s?

  • newzmaker

    the real john t said:
    And just what “illegitimate votes” were cast. And don’t even start about ACORN because you’ll make yourself look like a fool.

    Btw, I don’t need to start on ACORN. ACORN makes itself look like a fool.

  • the real john t

    newzmaker said:
    Courtesy of Dem activists: http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

    That site was proven false along time ago. Do you think a true Democratic site would have this on their website:

    “We Will Not Be Silenced on Fox News – July 11, 2010 “

  • newzmaker

    You have proof this website is false? You think mentioning ‘Fox News’ makes this documentary false? Idiot.

  • newzmaker

    liberal white guilt:

    a belief, often subconscious, among white liberals that being white is, in and of itself, a great transgression against the rest of the world for which one must spend their life making atonement. It is often exemplified by embracing the cultures and philosophies of various other ethnic groups while neglecting one’s own roots.

  • the real john t

    newzmaker said:
    You have proof this website is false?

    If you would have watched or read any news at all you would’ve known it too, IDIOT.

  • newzmaker

    I didn’t get the memo, that the documentary was false. Enlighten me, please. Idiot.

  • the real john t

    newzmaker said:
    ghten me, please.

    I’ll tell you what the RW idiots on here tell me everytime I ask for proof of something, “Go look it up, I’m not doing your research for you”. So there IDIOT.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    For three days now the lefty loons on this site have been trying to sell the idea Fox hurt themselves with the Sherrod story. LOL. They are going nuts that nobody is buying their story. Have you counted how many posts from RRK. I think they are going to need to take them all to a rubber room soon. LOL

  • newzmaker

    the real john t said:
    I’ll tell you what the RW idiots on here tell me everytime I ask for proof of something, “Go look it up, I’m not doing your research for you”. So there IDIOT.

    This usually means there is no proof. LOL. Idiot.

  • newzmaker

    Nothing on Google, about the documentary being false. I guess Google didn’t get the memo either. LOL.

  • the real john t

    newzmaker said:
    Nothing on Google, about the documentary being false.

    Just shows you don’t know how to google little man. BTW, did I say anything about the documentary? No, I stated about the website. Maybe when you’re trying to learn to google you can learn to read too.

  • Eddy Gator

    First let me say, I am a regitered Democrat. Now I want to say I saw Howard dean on Fox News and like a lot of things I hear am apaulled at this interview. I think Howard Dean is an idiot and should be sent home so he can’t hurt the party anymore. Being a news hawk, watching all the major news programs I can’t believe Mr. Dean wouldn’t acknowledge he was wrong about the fireing of Sherrod being started by Fox. This is a bald face lie and makes Dems look like liars. He is a sham. He has no idea what the people want, just like the Democratic party in office. I want the Constitution as law and it should be adheard to the letter. I am sick that this administration cares nothing about the people and aspecially small buisness, of which I am a small business owner. Small business did pay most of the taxes, hire more people, and when the housing market went down so did we. Nothing has been done to help small business. Money was given to Big Business and we were left to muddle thru with nothing. The middle class which is barely the majority anymore is shrinking at the fastest pace in our history and when we are gone the government, Democrats or Republicanwill be able to take over and do with us what they will. I know politicians lie, but this is totally wrong. Our president, Speaker Polosi, Senator reid, and the rest of this administration are liers and thieves and I am sick of it. We are being taken to the cleaners and the Republicans deserve to take over. As for me, if buisness as usual takes place in this election, I will not only change parties, but will revive my blogs and call for ouster of ALL Democrats. Once they are gone, maybe we can get back on track, live by the Constitution, and if neccesary get rid of republicans. Where are the Statesmen? Where is honesty, where is the integrity? It’s not in politics. All of them are crooks.

  • the real john t

    Eddy Gator said:
    First let me say, I am a regitered Democrat

    And I think you are a damn liar.

    Eddy Gator said:
    . As for me, if buisness as usual takes place in this election, I will not only change parties, but will revive my blogs and call for ouster of ALL Democrats

    And is that your small business is running your blogs? You are a joke.

  • Jelperman

    Steve Krakauer would have a point were it not for the fact that Faux News has peddled Breitbart’s racist agitprop nonstop with the phony ACORN videos and the New Black Panthers case.

    Imagine if a killer has three victims cornered in a room. He cuts the throat of the first victim, then the second. The third victim knows what’s coming so he hangs himself before the killer can cut his throat, too. You can argue that victim #3 was stupid and cowardly, but do his actions in any way exonerate the cutthroat killer? Of course not.

    But then, I’ve come to expect dishonesty and sophistry at Mediaite, a site that uses doctored video obtained from a white supremacist website as legitimate news footage.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Ok – you’ve covered well the one instance in which Fox News is not culpable in promoting racism or using race to hit the Democrats. Now, how about examining all those in which Fox News is arguably culpable? How about examining as closely the fake ACORN scandal, Fox’s involvement in Van Jones, the Tea Party promotion and the racism connection? If Fox is, as Fox has, going to repeatedly play the race card in its bizarre fashion, how about some analysis of that issue?

    Oh, and we haven’t forgotten in this diversion that Andrew Not So Breitbart puts the yellow in journalism.

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    It is amazing the level of denial needed to overlook the facts and continue down a road of accusations towards Fox. The hatred for Fox is so deep that salient facts have to be avoided in order to hurl accusations at them in this case.

    – The NAACP reacted foolishly without gathering all the facts, and tried to blame Fox before they touched they story.
    – Ben Jealous also tried to lay the blame on Brietbart even though he admitted to not watching the entire video before calling for Sherrod’s firing.
    – After spending time denouncing Brietbart/Fox/Glenn Beck, Ben Jealous then turns arounds and blames his foolish reaction on the fact that he was “snookered” by the entities he had just denounced.
    – The NAACP pushed the WH to fire Sherrod .
    – Obama tries to divest himself and his administration of responsibility, even as the NAACP went to them, and Sherrod herself said she was pushed hard by the WH to quit.
    – Calls of Fox being racist are swallowed whole while no equal animous is applied to the NAACP for employing race-baiting in their speeches leading up to this debacle, or the constant racial accusations leveled against TeaParty members.

    If Fox brings mentions race on the left they are being racist. If the NAACP mentions race on the right they are proving Fox is racist.
    And somehow The NAACP and the WH can tell people Fox is an unreliable news source, then claim they were duped by that same news source. How do you make that contortion without looking foolish?

  • Pablo

    the real john t said:
    And just what “illegitimate votes” were cast. And don’t even start about ACORN because you’ll make yourself look like a fool.

    Why don’t we start with Al Franken’s felon voters?

  • Pablo

    Bill Adkins said:
    How about examining as closely the fake ACORN scandal, Fox’s involvement in Van Jones, the Tea Party promotion and the racism connection?

    If the ACORN scandal is fake, why did are they out of business? Why was Van Jones given the boot, and why shouldn’t it be a story? What’s your problem with their Tea Party coverage and why shouldn’t it include the incessant allegations of racism from the left and the facts behind them?

  • NORBIT

    Look at the HYPOCRISY of the Left, once again!

    They are RAILING against Breitbart… for posting the same misinterpreted POV as the White House & naacp!!!

    - and these are the same “use-the-racism-smear-as-a-political-tool” Lefties (and THEIR MEDIA!) that were just FALLING ALL OVER THEMSELVES defending the black panther ‘kill-cracka-baby” good citizens!

    EXPOSED – the DUPLICITY & DISHONESTY of the Dwindling LEFT!!!

  • Azarkhan

    “One More Look At How Fox News Covered The Shirley Sherrod Story”

    Another reason I could never be a leftist-after the fifth Sherrod story, I was already bored.

  • The Real Royal King

    Pablo said:
    If the ACORN scandal is fake, why did are they out of business? Why was Van Jones given the boot, and why shouldn’t it be a story? What’s your problem with their Tea Party coverage and why shouldn’t it include the incessant allegations of racism from the left and the facts behind them?

    And, why is O’Keefe a convict and Breitbart discredited?

    THE FOX NETWORK:

    WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
    EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
    WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
    NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

  • writer

    Many on the left (such as Royal King) are looking at the Sherrod story as proof of their contention that there is no such thing as black racism. There were people such as Wright, Farrakhan, the panthers, et al, long before Breitbart, and there will be such people after Breitbart. And the left will continue to ignore their existence.

  • Pablo

    The Real Royal King said:
    And, why is O’Keefe a convict and Breitbart discredited?.

    So, you can’t answer my questions, then?

  • Pablo

    writer said:
    Many on the left (such as Royal King) are looking at the Sherrod story as proof of their contention that there is no such thing as black racism. There were people such as Wright, Farrakhan, the panthers, et al, long before Breitbart, and there will be such people after Breitbart. And the left will continue to ignore their existence.

    Then there’s a fellow by the name of Charles Sharrod: “We Must Stop The White Man And His Uncle Toms …”

  • CosmosDan

    Fox is not to blame for Sherrod being fired. People in the admin overreacted and were more worried about what was going to be on Fox that night {they had posted it on the web} than they were about the facts. She told them it was completely wrong and they still forced her to resign. That’s on the admin not Fox. What this story highlights is the repeating pattern on Fox to run any distorted crap they can get their hands on in order to attack the WH. and their agenda of fanning the fires of racism for politics. So shame on the WH for caving and overreacting and shame on Fox for doing this AGAIN, Let’s see what happens when they continue to repeat this pattern.

  • notsofast

    This story and the now dead horse it rode in on will be buried today at 3:00PM.

    That’s all.

  • egaeus

    Mediaite is being disingenuous here. While it’s true that Fox did not report the story ON TV before Shirley Sherrod resigned, its popular Internet site FoxNews.com picked up the story and helped to spread it before her resignation. FoxNews is a larger entity than simple a cable station. And Fox did so with the same spin that Breitbart gave it. Fox wasn’t following the lead of the White House–it was following the lead of Breitbart.

    The White House, NAACP, etc., were wrong in their denouncing of Sherrod without the facts. However, the Obama administration’s reaction was not something out of the blue or completely unexpected. Fox News is influential with a certain demographic of voters, so the things it says have real world consequences. Past polls have shown that Fox viewers know less about what actually happens in the world than the viewers of other stations because Fox deliberately slants its news. To deny that is to be blind to what’s in front of your eyes. Fox viewers polled as believing that Saddam Hussein was partially responsible for 9/11 and that we actually found WMD’s in Iraq, not because they are dumb, but because they don’t think critically about what their told.

    I realize that Americans don’t like history and don’t like to think that the past affects the present in a real way, but that’s what is going on. For example, white people bitter about the civil rights movement want to pretend that racism is over and they don’t have to be nice to black people anymore. They want to pretend that everything magically became even now, the playing field is level (despite the fact that nothing was done to raise the millions of blacks condemned to poverty through years of Southern tyranny from that poverty), and women and blacks can’t complain anymore, and this despite the inequities that still exist and the abuses these groups continue to suffer.

    However, the Obama administration’s reaction can be traced to the history of its treatment by Fox. The Obama administration has been bitten by this dog before. Imagine that every time you walk past a certain house, a dog runs out of the house and attacks you. Eventually, you would go a long way around to avoid being bitten again. Fox is a conservative attack dog that has relentlessly savaged every decision that Obama has made. Knowing that Fox influences voters and Republican statesmen, Obama has wrongfully chosen a policy to simply amputate a limb before seeing if it will get infected. By neutralizing Fox’s (and the rest of the conservative media’s) ability to capitalize on trumped up stories about reverse racism and lefty radicalism, Obama and his people just cut them loose.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Many on the left (such as Royal King) are looking at the Sherrod story as proof of their contention that there is no such thing as black racism. There were people such as Wright, Farrakhan, the panthers, et al, long before Breitbart, and there will be such people after Breitbart. And the left will continue to ignore their existence.

    I haven’t heard anybody on the left deny the existance of black racism. Sherrod’s father was murdered and nobody did a thing about it. Her husband was knocked down the steps to keep him from voting. Yet still, she had the spirit to fight agasint the racism in her heart. Let’s have some perspective. We don’t fight racism by using a microscope to examine every minor incident and making accusations. That’s being done to scare people and play upon thier racism and fears. With our first black president we can’t be afraid to discuss racism , but fanning the fires of racist fears is reprehensible.

  • CosmosDan

    notsofast said:
    She is a racist. “You know, I haven’t seen such a mean-spirited people as I’ve seen lately over this issue of health care. Some of the racism we thought was buried. Didn’t it surface? Now, we endured eight years of the Bush’s and we didn’t do the stuff these Republicans are doing because you have a black President.” She also accused Fox News of racism, telling Strupp that “they are after a bigger thing, they would love to take us back to… where black people were looking down, not looking white folks in the face, not being able to compete for a job out there and not be a whole person.” “Breitbart wants to take us back to the days of slavery.”

    Yes, she used hyperboyle when she was pissed off at people who fostered lies about her on a national level. She is truly a horrible person. Let’s try to have some perspective.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marie-Salomon/100001333311150 Marie Salomon

    Notsofast why do you alway resort to name calling. You must not have any thing substantive to say other than resorting to name calling. If liberals are asshold then you are a conservadick

  • CosmosDan

    Pablo said:
    No, the Administration fired Sherrod because they’re morons. The Great Fox News Conspiracy may be their grandest fear, but that fear doesn’t excuse not doing any due diligence at all before FIRING someone, and making public announcements about it.

    In this incident I agree. They were completely wrong for forcing her to resign without even hearing her side and knowing the facts. That doesn’t excuse Fox for their nasty pattern of distorting the truth. The WH needs to have some nads in dealing with them.

  • CosmosDan

    Pablo said:
    If the ACORN scandal is fake, why did are they out of business? Why was Van Jones given the boot, and why shouldn’t it be a story? What’s your problem with their Tea Party coverage and why shouldn’t it include the incessant allegations of racism from the left and the facts behind them?

    ACORN went under because spinless congresscritters revoked thier funding and all the bad publicity drained thier donations. All investigations into the matter declared they were innocent. The videos were edited just as Sherrod’s were and lies.
    Van Jones resigned because the story kept being hammered on and he felt it was hurting a new administration. He said some bad things but these were taken completely out of context to make them 100 times worse. I think he should have stayed and fought the bullshit.
    The Tea Party is not racist. What the NAACP wanted is for the Tea Party organizers and leaders to denounce the racist fringe among them. The facts should come out. If Briebart hadn’t put this lie about Sherrod out there and Fox picked it up perhaps we could have an honest discussion about the issue.

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    @egaeus

    There is only one major flaw in your blaming of Fox for these actions: For the week leading up to the controversy the NAACP was lambasting Fox and their ilk as racists and liars. Obama has done essentially the same thing since he was inaugurated, getting into a debate on the merits of Fox being a legitimate news source. Then how could both of these entities – after deriding Fox as a true source of news – claim it was the fault of Fox that they were fooled?

    You cannot say on one side of your mouth, “Don’t listen to them, they lie”, then out of the other side cry because, “We listened to them, and they lied!”

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    What’s missing in this story is FoxNews.com. Fox, through their website, picked this story up early on in the day, not long after it was on lies about BigGoverment.com. That’s how the Administration knew that Fox was going to run this apparent racism on the part of one of their own officials.

    Fox News did have a role in the firing of Sharrod through their website which obviously is being monitored by the White House.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    The mainstream media and the Obama administration must stop cowering before a right wing that has persistently forced its propaganda to be accepted as news by convincing traditional journalists that “fairness” requires treating extremist rants as “one side of the story.” And there can be no more shilly-shallying about the fact that racial backlash politics is becoming an important component of the campaign against President Obama and against progressives in this year’s election. ~~E.J. Dionne Jr.

  • Roundabout7715

    At some point Fox News certainly pushed this story more than other networks, without actually trying to talk to Sherrod. Rule one in news reporting: ensure the facts are correct and get all sides.
    And the attacks were on her comments as being racist – from its news reporters to their commentators. I don’t know what Fox and Friends are, a hybrid. After the full tape came out and we learned she was tealling a story about her peronal growth in 1986 and O’Reilly apologized, Fox commenters continued bashing her. O’Reilly and Hannity (with the former CBS executive whose one note is bashing thos he feels are liberals in the media). Fox also is using the Sherrod situation to blast Obama for racial acts and poor managing. Breitbarth, who started this whole mess, gets a pass from Fox and is allowed to come on and blame others without being strongly questioned.

  • Pablo

    GlennBeckReview said:
    That’s how the Administration knew that Fox was going to run this apparent racism on the part of one of their own officials.

    Wait, they told Shirley it was going to be on Glenn Beck that night. How’d that work out, GlennBeckReview?

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    In order f

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Fox News did have a role in the firing of Sharrod through their website which obviously is being monitored by the White House.

    In order for this type of narrative to be forwarded you have to be saying the WH is powerless against whatever Fox News says or does. Therefore when they spied a piece on foxnews.com they just KNEW what was going to happen, so they acted without looking over all the information. That makes them out to be a group of complete dolts, and Fox is actually running the country.

  • in my humble opinion

    Egaeus, you have it exactly correct. You gave us the entire truth of the how, where, when and who. Unfortunately
    many of the people who comment in Mediaite, only want to talk, not listen. I wonder if they are getting paid to say this nonsense in their comments.
    Speaking of paid, you write well, I think the WH could use you.

  • katestyle

    In my humble opinion, the whole problem is Ms. Sherrod. She knew what she said. If she didn’t feel that it was racist, why did she allow herelft to be forced to resign? Her superiors are certainly chicken-little air heads if they were not aware of what she discussed in a public forum…even just a little synopsis would have told them not to sweat the details. Obviously, its all about how thing are preceived….

    …and by the way, what about that lawsuit that she was so interested in filing? New job..pay off? What’s up with that Ms. Sherrod. Is there something going on beneath the surface that we all should know about you?

  • Liberty_Hound

    Everyone on the left wants to be critical of Fox News for race baiting. We all know it didn’t happen in this case or in any other case. They want it to be true so they throw crap on the wall and hope some of it sticks. They don’t care about truth. They just want to destroy anyone or any organization they feel is a threat to their agenda. Now, I know for a fact MSNBC has intentionally participated in race baiting with a lie. Back in mid-August of 2009 MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer and her talking heads on her show “Morning Meeting” showed a clip of a man carrying a semi-automatic assault rife outside a health care reform town hall meeting. Contessa quote “There are questions about whether this has racial overtones” …”white people showing up with guns.” Brewer failed to mention the guy with the gun was a black man. The gun was registered and he was just displaying his right to bear arms. To capture that video image of a man carrying a rife and not show the color of his skin and then imply it could be an angry white racist intent on doing harm to the president shows intent to lie and race bait. Fox News corrected MSNBC later by showing the unedited version – Thanks you Fox News! All news organizations make mistakes but this was a case of deliberate intent.

    Give me your thoughts lefties.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/08/18/msnbc-no-mention-black-gun-owner-among-racist-protesters

  • StewartIII

    NewsBusters: Even Liberal Mediaite Knows FOX Didn’t Get Shirley Sherrod Fired
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/26/even-liberal-mediaite-knows-fox-didn-t-get-shirley-sherrod-fired

  • StewartIII

    “Finally, here’s one of the most flagrant liars in this entire affair. On Sunday Howard Dean [sputtered]* as Chris Wallace explained to him how cause and effect work in the time-space continuum. You’d think that he would learn from his mistakes, but today he went on MSNBC and [flat-out lied]** about how Fox covered the Sherrod story on Monday, Day One:”

    * http://www.mediaite.com/online/howard-dean-tells-chris-wallace-fox-news-is-racist/
    ** http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/38420064#38420064
    -
    ‘DEAN: I happen to like Chris Wallace, but he was really not being exactly accurate when he talked about ‘we didn’t say one word about this before the Secretary of Agriculture fired her’. The fact of the matter is they were pushing this story very very hard all day. It may be true that they didn’t mention her name, but they sure did run the tape without mentioning her name, and they cranked up this story…’
    -
    “The truth: the tape was [not played]*, and the story was [not reported]** on FNC until long after she had resigned. That’s not a matter of opinion; it’s fact. Sorry, there’s only way to say this. Howard Dean: you lie.”

    * http://www.mediaite.com/online/examining-the-myth-that-fox-news-drove-shirley-sherrod-to-resign/
    ** http://www.mediaite.com/online/one-more-look-at-how-fox-news-covered-the-shirley-sherrod-story/
    ***
    J$P| FHWiR Update: New Lies for Old
    http://johnnydollar.us/files/100726fhwir.php

  • johnny dollar

    GlennBeckReview said:
    What’s missing in this story is FoxNews.com. Fox, through their website, picked this story up early on in the day, not long after it was on lies about BigGoverment.com. That’s how the Administration knew that Fox was going to run this apparent racism on the part of one of their own officials. Fox News did have a role in the firing of Sharrod through their website which obviously is being monitored by the White House.

    I’m sorry but you are very mistaken. Foxnews.com did not pick up the story early in the day. The first mention of Sherrod on foxnews.com came around 6:00 pm that night. (The fabricated timeline from Media Matters places it around 12 noon, but that’s because it’s, well, fabricated.) That was at least an hour after Sherrod was already out of a job.

  • atlasfugged

    Others have pointed out that the Shirley Sherrod video appeared on Fox News websites not long after it was posted on BigGovernment.com. I’m not sure if any of the commenters mentioned this here or in Krakuer’s previous post regarding Fox News’ coverage (I’m certainly not going to parse the comments to find out), but, in addition to O’Reilly’s commentary, Sean Hannity discussed the original, edited video of Shirley Sherrod on his show with a panel of conservatives. Unsurprisingly, Hannity and the panel parroted many of the same unfounded accusations of racism that Breitbart initially made.

    http://www.yaf.org/videogallery.aspx?id=483 (See the video dated [incorrectly] 07-18-2010. Obenshain was a member of the aforesaid panel. The show took place on the 19th, the same day Breitbart released his edited video).

    @johnny dollar: You’re right with regard to Foxnews.com’s “first mention of Sherrod”. The story was entitled “Video Shows USDA Official Saying She Didn’t Give ‘Full Force’ of Help to White Farmer”. Though it is now dated July 20, 2010, the first comment by commenter tv1530 was posted Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:22 PM (http://bit.ly/atElkL). Media Matters, however, never claimed that that story was posted at 12 noon, or any other specific hour of July 19, 2010. Media Matters only claimed that it was posted sometime on July 19 which is verifiably true.

    Other websites affiliated with Fox News (e.g. TheFoxNation.com), on the other hand, did post the story shortly after Breitbart released his deceptively edited video. See for example: http://bit.ly/aM28FC and note the timestamp of the earliest comments. The earliest comment was by Amazingoly at Monday, July 19, 2010 at 01:41 PM (EST), well before Sherrod was fired and less than 2.5 hours after the Breitbart’s post on BigGovernment.com.

    ———-

    Media commentators like Steve Krakauer and WaPo’s Howie Kurtz are letting Fox News off the hook too easily when it comes to its reporting of Shirley Sherrod’s public smearing and eventual firing. Fox News did pump this story, and it did so by perpetuating the same kind of fiction and scurrilous innuendo that originated with Andrew Breitbart and the rest of the right-wing blogosphere.

  • hneftafl

    Stop making excuses for Fox News, Dan! FoxNews.com was “covering” the “Sherrod story” by noon of the same day Breitbart “broke” it.

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