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Pres. Obama Disputes Charge Of Legislative Timidity On The Daily Show

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President Barack Obama tonight became the first sitting President to appear on The Daily Show, and the first guest to be interviewed for the entire show.

The wide-ranging discussion with Jon Stewart was heavy on politics, reflecting on the past two years (and the campaign) and had a few brief moments of disagreement between host and guest.

“This is a nice set,” said Pres. Obama at the beginning of the interview. “It reminds me of the convention.” It did look very similar to the Denver column set-up.

Stewart got right down to business. “You ran on high rhetoric, hope and change, and the Democrats this year seem to be running, ‘please baby one more chance,’” he said. Obama admitted things weren’t moving along as quickly as he had expected, and that people he works with told him when he was elected to “enjoy this now because two years from now folks are going to be frustrated.”

Stewart got in a shot shortly after, asked the President, “Are you planning a surprise party for us, filled with jobs and health care?”

The most contentious exchange was when Stewart used the word “timid.” He said: “You ran with such audacity…yet legislatively it has felt timid at times, that I’m not even sure what you want of out of the health care bill.” Pres. Obama responded:

Jon, I love your show, but this is something where I have a profound disagreement with you and I don’t want to lump you in with a lot of other pundits. This notion that health care was timid – you’ve got 30 million people that are going to get health insurance as a consequence of this, you’ve got a patient’s bill of rights that make sure insurance companies can’t drop you when you get sick…this is as significant a piece of legislation as we’ve seen in this country’s history.

There was also this variation of a familiar slogan by the President: “When we promised during the campaign ‘change you can believe in,’ it wasn’t change you can believe in in 18 months. It was change you can believe in, but you know what? We’re going to have to work for it.” Later, he said “Yes We Can, but…” and Stewart started laughing before he could finish.

Was it a little odd to see President Obama in the familiar Daily Show setting? Yes, but only by halfway. President Obama was on message, and it felt almost like any other interview he would have done with a Sunday show or cable news host. But it was Stewart who changed the mood: lighter at times, but also more pointed, as his jabs were ones a President is not often publicly used to fielding.

Here’s the 2nd segment, where the “timid” debate took place:

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  • Kird

    Steve burning the midnight oil . . .

  • Latin2

    You know Obama and the DNC is behind the Stewart/Colbert rally, or Obama would not have appeared on the Stewart show a couple of days BEFORE the rally.

  • Latin2

    So the Racist in Chief was on Stewart’s show right before the rally…how convenient.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Geoff-Hines/1663431000 Geoff Hines

    it was actually a pretty good interview. not sure what the “pundits” were expecting but this was pretty much what i was expecting. stewart has always been a pretty good interviewer when he has people of “gravitas” on his show.

    obtw, still impossible to login using chrome. fix the damn login stuff. problems with chrome, no problems with firefox.

  • Kird

    Geoff Hines said:
    it was actually a pretty good interview. not sure what the “pundits” were expecting but this was pretty much what i was expecting. stewart has always been a pretty good interviewer when he has people of “gravitas” on his show.

    obtw, still impossible to login using chrome. fix the damn login stuff. problems with chrome, no problems with firefox.

    I thought it was a good interview too even by partisan standards considering Stewart’s political views. And yea, screw chrome, Firefox still rules.

  • Michele

    While some might say Obama shouldn’t have gone on the Stewart show as the sitting President, we live in an electronic time, folks get their news from a variety of sources to include the comedy channel.

    OK, I am a chick who looks at the office of President and am not sure I think he should go on the comedy channel, but, he did and now we offer the post-interview analysis.

    Stewart was on his game, for a comedian. I think Obama thought the interview would go differently. Props to Stewart, could he have asked tougher questions, after all Obama works for the American people and when anyone get’s to interview the president they should be respectful but ask the tough question’s facing American’s.

    I will be interested to see if this moves Obama’s poll numbers? Frankly, he should be talking to the network channels and cable news channels, America elected him, we want interviews, not campaign stops where he only talks to his supporter’s.

    Obama is the president of all the people but rarely does he act that way.

    In fairness I did not post here during Bush so those who read this, I was equally aggravated with Bush, we were at war, where was his conversation with America telling us of the progress overseas and his spending was through the roof.

    I just want a president not worried about his future election, not saying folks should sit in the back of the bus, that the GOP is not deserving of the “car key’s” just stop talking, and do your job.

    I can remember how proud I was to render my first vote, now I vote but I do so with great frustration.

    I offer these words from a sad chick, Ft Leavenworth KS.

  • sarainitaly

    Geoff Hines said:
    obtw, still impossible to login using chrome.

    I don’t have any trouble logging in with Chrome – try installing a newer version?

  • NORBIT

    Timid?

    What’s he looking for, an outright Communist Revolution?

    Just the added authority and regulations hidden in Health Care, FinReg, and “commerce” creates a Federal Overlord!

  • NORBIT

    OPRAH BITCH-SLAPS “THE VIEW”!

  • NORBIT

    OPRAH BITCH-SLAPS “THE VIEW”

    Oprah (on her new network):
    “It’ll be fun and entertaining, without tearing down people and calling them BITCHES!”

    Wow! – Behar took that one right across the face!

    So will she be coming back at ‘O’?
    Not likely with that cowardly BITCH!

    Hey BayWhore, to paraphrase:
    “Come say that in Chicago, Bitch!”
    heh-heh-heh!

  • pakattak

    Hey NORBIT, get your own fucking blog.

  • Big Eddie
  • newzmaker

    NORBIT said:
    OPRAH BITCH-SLAPS “THE VIEW”

    Oprah (on her new network):
    “It’ll be fun and entertaining, without tearing down people and calling them BITCHES!”

    Wow! – Behar took that one right across the face!

    So will she be coming back at ‘O’?
    Not likely with that cowardly BITCH!

    Hey BayWhore, to paraphrase:
    “Come say that in Chicago, Bitch!”
    heh-heh-heh!

    Is there a link to that Oprah comment? I’ll post it on Behar’s blog. LOL.

  • danger_mouse

    Latin2 said:
    So the Racist in Chief was on Stewart’s show right before the rally…how convenient.

    There is dumb, there’s rude and then there’s this comment above. You might not vote for the guy, but don’t call him racist, Hitler or Anti-Christ. Same goes for Sarah Palin, you may not like her politics, but it’s no excuse to throw insults at her.

    You cannot go into fever pitch rage at real and/or perceived insults at your preferred political alliance and then chuck insults at the other side and then try to claim the high ground.

  • pakattak

    Thank you, danger_mouse. I wish it was just the conservatives who do it, but my fellow liberals are equally guilty. People need to stop with the damn insults.

  • NORBIT

    danger_mouse said:
    There is dumb, there’s rude and then there’s this comment above. You might not vote for the guy, but don’t call him racist, Hitler or Anti-Christ. Same goes for Sarah Palin, you may not like her politics, but it’s no excuse to throw insults at her. You cannot go into fever pitch rage at real and/or perceived insults at your preferred political alliance and then chuck insults at the other side and then try to claim the high ground.

    Hope you sent that same message to the hate-mongerring Left!

    Let’s compare how often the Left – and their media – SMEARS anyone who disagrees with them as “racists”!
    It’s the first ‘stifle-the-speech’ smear they resort to!
    ——————————————————————–
    Obama played the race card numerous times:
    - latino boy would stopped on his way for ice cream. (blatant LIE)
    - asking latino voters to “punish their enemies”
    - ride in the back
    - white cops acting ‘stupidly’
    …and that’s in 15 seconds of recall, what if we did a few Google searches?

  • NORBIT

    newzmaker said:
    Is there a link to that Oprah comment? I’ll post it on Behar’s blog. LOL.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/oprah_no_bitches_allowed_w5MafyabZMIHYW2Eiz4UiM

    Go git ‘er!!!

  • ChrisNH

    ‘Timid’ is simply a one-word metaphor for ‘limp-wristed.’ Obama will NEVER accept responsibility for things that go wrong while feverishly seeking credit for good things done by others. This is exceptionally child-like, which also is another metaphor for ‘limp-wristed.’ Iranian TV declares that Obama won’t even last his first term, never mind being given a second one. I’m not one to nod in agreement with anything Iran does, but I will this time.

  • The Real Royal King

    Actually, it was a bold agenda with some transformative legislation. President Obama is a polite man with excellent manners who is reticent to tout his own accomplishments. In this regard, he is much like Poppy Bush and the polar opposite of the strutting, smirking W. With President Obama and Poppy, we got much more than we realize, with W, much less.

    It was a good interview, and it reminded me of why I voted for President Obama. I’m heartened to see, as his “ratings” continue to rebound, that many other Americans feel the same way.

    As for the tone of the interview, I rather liked Stewart’s control and President Obama’s approachability. Two (2) American men have a substantive and civil conversation is rare in America today. And, most welcome.

  • The Real Royal King

    Big Eddie said:
    Next stop for Obama : The World’s Greatest Interviewer .

    http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/27/katie-couric-the-great-unwatched/comment-page-1/#comments

    Somehow, I suspect he’ll do far better than the Drop Out Governor did.

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    How dare you conservatives bring up racism as if you are victims. Back of the bus? Oh now you conservatives thinks its wrong for someone to be force to sit in the back of the bus. Well you are a few decades too late.

  • The Real Royal King

    ChrisNH said:
    ‘Timid’ is simply a one-word metaphor for ‘limp-wristed.’ Obama will NEVER accept responsibility for things that go wrong while feverishly seeking credit for good things done by others. This is exceptionally child-like, which also is another metaphor for ‘limp-wristed.’ Iranian TV declares that Obama won’t even last his first term, never mind being given a second one. I’m not one to nod in agreement with anything Iran does, but I will this time.

    You obviously did not watch the interview. The discussion about HCR negates everything you have written.

    But, thanks for the Iran comment. It’s good to know where you stand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    As usual, Jon Stewart bashing the president because he’s not far-left enough.

  • Pablo

    I have to agree with Obama that Obamacare was anything but timid. As he’s beginning to recognize, it was suicidal.

  • CosmosDan

    Geoff Hines said:
    it was actually a pretty good interview. not sure what the “pundits” were expecting but this was pretty much what i was expecting. stewart has always been a pretty good interviewer when he has people of “gravitas” on his show.

    obtw, still impossible to login using chrome. fix the damn login stuff. problems with chrome, no problems with firefox.

    It was good. Several conservative guests on the show have said they enjoy going on because Stewart actually gives them the opportunity to explain their position.

    And how often do you hear someone ask the POTUS if Democrats are running on “Please baby give me one more chance”

  • Pablo

    The Real Royal King said:
    Somehow, I suspect he’ll do far better than the Drop Out Governor did.

    Yeah, he can take a tongue bath like no one else.

  • Some_Dude

    Obama made a strong case in the face of Stewart’s criticism: the legislation passed during his administration thus far has been plentiful and meaningful. It has also set up a framework to work from (and he gave some great examples).

    If the opposition was willing to work for the American people rather than themselves, and hadn’t abused the filibuster, then the legislation would have probably met most peoples’ expectation. All in all, I think the Democrats did well given what they were working against.

  • Socrates69

    I’m curious as to what some of you expected from this interview? I thought it was good, pointed, and civil. Sure Jon Stewart leans to the left, but obviously he demonstrated that the President’s position before the campaign and after has taken a beating, And his questions to the President fairly represented what most Americans would like to know.

    I don’t know what more could be expected in such a interview.

  • Some_Dude

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    How dare you conservatives bring up racism as if you are victims. Back of the bus? Oh now you conservatives thinks its wrong for someone to be force to sit in the back of the bus. Well you are a few decades too late.

    Lets not humor their misused and out of context argument. The President’s analogy had nothing to do with a bus, civil rights, or anything else the right are pretending. It was in regards to his often used analogy of how the Republicans drove the car into a ditch, etc. In Fox News world “you have to ride in the back” suddenly takes on a meaning that shouldn’t be upsetting to white Americans, but for some reason all of the sudden is.

    And, just to remind those that always seem to forget, the President is half white.

  • CosmosDan

    Michele said:
    I just want a president not worried about his future election, not saying folks should sit in the back of the bus, that the GOP is not deserving of the “car key’s” just stop talking, and do your job.

    I can remember how proud I was to render my first vote, now I vote but I do so with great frustration.

    For the Record, he never said “sit in the back of the bus” that’s something completely made up by blogs and Fox “news” channel to turn something non racial into racial.

    I share your disappointment in our government in general , but I agree with Obama in that we can’t expect a huge list of problems that took years to accumulate to be solved in less than two years. IMO part of the problem has been the complacency of the general public. We haven’t been taught to stay involved and informed and our system has become more and more corrupted by special interests and big money. We, the voters have to insist on that change.

  • ChrisNH

    The Real Royal King said:
    Actually, it was a bold agenda with some transformative legislation.

    ‘Transformative’ is not a positive-sum game. What Obama is suffering from now (properly and correctly) is the blow-back created by NEGATIVE transformation. In other words, things made worse for the many at the supposed benefit of a few. For example, you’re not seeing much talk about how HCR is going to make things ‘more affordable,’ now are you? Obama’s ‘transformative legislation’ is being skewered; his life is now miserable because HE wielded the stick.

  • Pablo

    ChrisNH said:
    ‘Transformative’ is not a positive-sum game.

    Right. Change may be when “the oceans began to recede” but it’s also when you get hit by a dump truck. Or a pissed off electorate.

  • Pablo

    Some_Dude said:
    The President’s analogy had nothing to do with a bus, civil rights, or anything else the right are pretending.

    If the car is the country and certain people have to “sit in the back” what does it have to do with? And what does it mean when the POTUS says you have to “punish your enemies” who happen to be Americans? Please, Obi-wan. Explain.

  • Alz

    Obama is showing Liberal Courage.

    What is Liberal Courage?

    Liberal Courage is knowingly doing the wrong thing – continually.

    Obama knows his policies are destructive to the well being and yet he continues. It takes a certain courage to keep hurting people.

    Let’s look at what’s going on:

    - Unemployment is up to 17%,
    - they’re devaluing the currency,
    - they’re pissing off many other countries with the devaluing,
    - they’re printing vast sums of money from thin air,
    - they’re trying to create inflation,
    - they keep spending waaaaay more than we have,
    - a ginormous tax increase is coming in a few months,
    - poverty is shooting up,
    - bankruptcies keep going up,
    - the banks still have the bad loans on their books,
    - they’re talking about getting rid of the mortgage deduction – which will kill the middle class even more while concentrating power in the rich,
    - Fannie and Freddie were OMITTED from the so-called Financial Reform,
    - they’re planning on passing all sorts of back room and shady deals AFTER the election in the lame duck session,
    - etc, etc, etc.

    As i said, it takes a certain courage to do these things. But, as we have seen with the liberals controlling the inner cities for 50 years, the hopelessness, despair and death that their ideas create and foster are ACCEPTABLE SIDE EFFECTS on their march towards forcing everything to be “equal.”

  • The Real Royal King

    My time is limited today, Alz, so let me unload only a portion of your great Kart ‘o Krap. Please note:

    - they’re devaluing the currency,
    - they’re pissing off many other countries with the devaluing,

    Which, of course, means that US exports are more attractive and the manufacturing segment (what’s left of it after the Raygun/W and Big Dick years) will grow. Clue: That’s why other countries are unhappy.

    - they’re trying to create inflation,

    They’re trying to prevent a very dangerous deflation of the sort we experienced in the late 70′s and 80′s.

    - a ginormous tax increase is coming in a few months,

    Yes, you and your like have been saying this since it became apparent in October 2008 that the Drop Out Governor had knocked Gramps out of the running. In fact, the middle class in America paid less in taxes in 2009 than it had in many, many years.

    - they’re talking about getting rid of the mortgage deduction – which will kill the middle class even more while concentrating power in the rich,

    Who’s talking about this? Be very specific. Fear-mongering Tea Partiers and fear-mongering Republicans seem to be the only ones talking about this. There is otherwise no substance to this at all.

    - they’re planning on passing all sorts of back room and shady deals AFTER the election in the lame duck session,

    Who’s planning this? What is your source. Be very, very specific.

  • Alz

    The Real Royal King said:
    My time is limited today, Alz, so let me unload only a portion of your great Kart ‘o Krap. Please note:

    - they’re devaluing the currency,
    - they’re pissing off many other countries with the devaluing,

    Which, of course, means that US exports are more attractive and the manufacturing segment (what’s left of it after the Raygun/W and Big Dick years) will grow. Clue: That’s why other countries are unhappy.

    - they’re trying to create inflation,

    They’re trying to prevent a very dangerous deflation of the sort we experienced in the late 70’s and 80’s.

    - a ginormous tax increase is coming in a few months,

    Yes, you and your like have been saying this since it became apparent in October 2008 that the Drop Out Governor had knocked Gramps out of the running. In fact, the middle class in America paid less in taxes in 2009 than it had in many, many years.

    - they’re talking about getting rid of the mortgage deduction – which will kill the middle class even more while concentrating power in the rich,

    Who’s talking about this? Be very specific. Fear-mongering Tea Partiers and fear-mongering Republicans seem to be the only ones talking about this. There is otherwise no substance to this at all.

    - they’re planning on passing all sorts of back room and shady deals AFTER the election in the lame duck session,

    Who’s planning this? What is your source. Be very, very specific.

    - They’re playing with our currency at other countries expense! It’s not good. We’ve been all over the Chinese about this for years and now we have the pedal to the metal – which is screwing other people!

    - They’re trying to stop deflation, but it can’t work. Look at Japan. All we’re getting is more and more debt.

    - it’s one of the biggest tax increases in history and it’s coming in JANUARY. What kind if idiots raise taxes like that during a massive recession????

    - The mortgage deduction proposal is coming from the liberals on the deficit reduction panel. It should put fear into every American who owns a home – or wants to own a home. It’s a massive tax hike that will drive people to rent while allowing the monied people to pick up land and homes real cheap – further concentrating wealth.

    - You haven’t heard about Reid’s and Pelosi’s plans for after the election? Look it up. very nasty stuff.

  • atreyue

    Pablo said:
    If the car is the country and certain people have to “sit in the back” what does it have to do with?

    It obviously is saying that republicans don’t get to drive the car, and is very in keeping with other statements Obama’s made since he got elected saying Republicans have to get out of the way. To say it’s race baiting is just ridiculous and a fine example of how closely each ‘side’ mirrors the other. Just think of how it would look if/when someone on the left launches that same type of argument. Reason and rationality should never be partisan. Don’t let yourself stoop to that level looking for ammo.

  • Alz

    Well, it looks like liberalism is a disease. Researchers found a gene connection.
    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/weird/Scientists-May-Have-IDd-Liberal-Gene-105917218.html

    Maybe in a few years we can have some gene therapy and cure them?

  • Pablo

    atreyue said:
    It obviously is saying that republicans don’t get to drive the car, and is very in keeping with other statements Obama’s made since he got elected saying Republicans have to get out of the way.

    Right. It’s not very unitey, is it? It doesn’t sound a thing like candidate Obama, does it?

  • Some_Dude

    Pablo said:
    Right. It’s not very unitey, is it? It doesn’t sound a thing like candidate Obama, does it?

    You haven’t actually listened to any of Obama’s past analogies on this subject, or the out of context quote in its entirety, have you? I’m not being facetious, it’s just apparent that you’re lost here.

  • justanotherconservative

    The Real Royal King said:
    Actually, it was a bold agenda with some transformative legislation. President Obama is a polite man with excellent manners who is reticent to tout his own accomplishments. In this regard, he is much like Poppy Bush and the polar opposite of the strutting, smirking W. With President Obama and Poppy, we got much more than we realize, with W, much less. It was a good interview, and it reminded me of why I voted for President Obama. I’m heartened to see, as his “ratings” continue to rebound, that many other Americans feel the same way. As for the tone of the interview, I rather liked Stewart’s control and President Obama’s approachability. Two (2) American men have a substantive and civil conversation is rare in America today. And, most welcome.

    just how far up your butt is your head???

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    the liberal gene is also called compassion for your fellow man.
    something republicans seem to be lacking in unless you are a large corporation.

  • atreyue

    Pablo said:
    Right. It’s not very unitey, is it? It doesn’t sound a thing like candidate Obama, does it?

    As you know, I’m not an Obama fan. I think the only uniting he wants to do at all is at the polls behind democrats. I completely agree that his presidential rhetoric is far different from his pre-presidential rhetoric. It’s just that I don’t believe there’s any real basis for the claims that this is a racial comment. Reminds me of that controversy a year or 2 ago over the use of the phrase “calling a spade a spade”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peggy-Longley/1344304649 Peggy Longley

    How can Stewart saddle the term “timid” along side of the accomplishment of the creation of the Healthcare Bill?????

  • lane

    I’m in CT, and here’s why Linda’s gaining the ‘undecideds’ this week. No one knows what she’s going to do, she’s been completely opaque on any her goals. She’s running solely on a ‘I know how to create jobs’ and ‘career politicians don’t work for the people’ ad campaigns. We’re starting to get a Brown election feel around here. The undecideds are not happy to vote for Linda, since her platform is just unknown, yet the independents I know are so mad at Washington, they just want their vote to matter. The WWE gear is just a bit silly.

    The independents I know, and it’s a third of voters here, are really breaking towards the republicans. The Daily Show appearance just doesn’t matter. Independents are the key. While I disagree with a sitting US President being on these types of shows, the interview was well done by both.

    To Mediaite, as a New Englander, watch the New England races on election night. We rarely have any real fraud issue here, so it’ll be a clean election and the results will be pretty timely. Most importantly, I think the usual democratic block up here will be shattered as independents vote in large numbers.

  • Pablo

    Some_Dude said:
    You haven’t actually listened to any of Obama’s past analogies on this subject, or the out of context quote in its entirety, have you? I’m not being facetious, it’s just apparent that you’re lost here.

    So, you’re not going to tell me what it means? Of course I’ve heard Obama’s endless car metaphors. (In fact, I’m thinking about bringing a Slurpee with when I vote on Tuesday.) But what does it mean that “they have to sit in the back” What does that translate out of the metaphor to? And what does the “punish your enemies” thing mean?

  • Pablo

    atreyue said:
    It’s just that I don’t believe there’s any real basis for the claims that this is a racial comment. Reminds me of that controversy a year or 2 ago over the use of the phrase “calling a spade a spade”.

    Or Tony Snow’s use of “tar baby”. I’m by no means insisting that it’s racial, but I would like to hear Some Dude tell us what it is, as opposed to what it isn’t. That said, whether intentional or not, there’s a dog whistle in there. It was inartful at best.

  • The Real Royal Knig

    So, when President Obama said that the Healthcare Bill was a framework, a structure to a more comprehensive scheme (like SS and every other progressive thing passed), does that mean Glenn Beck was right when he shouted for a year that this bill was a stepping stone to a more comprehensive, intrusive, all-encompassing type of system?

    Guess so! Damn him!

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Latin2 says:
    “So the Racist in Chief….”

    So, this is what we get from reactionaries who believe everthing — no matter far absurd — that comes out of Glenn Beck’s idiotic mouth.

    Glenn Beck: living proof that someone with enough talent can fool some of the people all of the time.

  • Calvin
  • ImRubberYoureGlue

    I am so glad I missed this BJ fest.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    glenn-beck-obama-finally-revealed-himself

    Sorry, the only people who believe anything that Glenn Beck has to say are people who believe anything, the 20%ers who think Iraq was involved in 9-11 or that Obama is Muslim or that mankind didn’t evolve from 10″ high monkeys that survived after the dinosaurs. (They weren’t, he isn’t and we didn’t.)

    Beck says things that are “completely insane,” so don’t think you’re impressing the independent or undecided voter by pointing at something Glenn Beck has to say. Most people don’t live in the alternative universe that Beck has created, literally pulled out of his ass.

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/paul-waldman-what-beck-says-is.html

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    If Jon Stewart wants to get funny he should stick with reality that effects all Americans, rich and poor. He should tell the truth about what happened to our economy under the honor system, and about how, Obama tightening the rules has save us from going into a 1929 style depression.
    Many honest sincere and well meaning people hate the Obama stimulus, they think its only intention was to create job. The truth of the matter is, our business, jobs, ownership through owed debt, hourly production of products necessary to sustain life. In other words, everyone of us has every day needs for survival and it was in danger of tumbling like a house of cards, not just home owners were in trouble. Visualize America as a large ship on the planet earth. Now visualize the top financial engines powering this ship. Now visualize many holes being put into this ship leaking water onto those powerful engines flooding the ship. If you are smart enough to understand this so far, you will see the danger of this ship becoming flooded to the extent of sinking like the economy of the late 1929 into the 30′s. We all look at things different with different interest. I hope some of you will understand the stimulus was really intended to keep the ship from sinking because of over productivity and sales of homes, vehicle and every other commodity brought about by the abuse of credit by banks, politicians of all parties, greedy buyers trying to speculate, hungry decent people trying to get into their own home, greedy business men in general that were involved in every aspect of this upper exchange of wealth. Today, many working class people have no clue as to what took place in this money debacle and they are getting ready to vote–that may be another debacle. It’s not the government fault. It’s the fault of profiteers–domestic, international, business, freelancers, and people pushing their opinion who mean well but still have no clue as to what took place that brought down our financial system. The Oil Companies, have found out that capitalism operates under Keynesian economics, this is where you borrow, buy and pay off later with inflated money, this is the only thing that keeps the capitalistic system alive, without it working this way, capitalism would die according to John Maynard Keynes the father of economics. If you understand all of this so far you will understand that Obama is not a socialist but a realist. He is for making things work better for business and labor. Business will always tell you, their obligation is to the stock holders. Obama’s obligation is to all American Citizens including stock holders. Incidentally, the reason for the high cost of oil is—VP Cheney probably told his OPEC buddies to raise oil prices, because our capitalistic system will be giving you inflated dollars later on. Thanks Cheney.
    I say, let us take care of everyone including, stock holder, workers, and retirees. There is enough for everyone.
    One more thing; look at how many years you believe you still have to live—now change the years into months. This helps you see the grand reaper is closer then you thought.
    When you look at how many months you have remaining to breathe and see life here on earth, is it worth hoarding and hoarding and hoarding?— I don’t think so.

  • Michele

    CosmosDan said:
    For the Record, he never said “sit in the back of the bus” that’s something completely made up by blogs and Fox “news” channel to turn something non racial into racial.

    I share your disappointment in our government in general , but I agree with Obama in that we can’t expect a huge list of problems that took years to accumulate to be solved in less than two years. IMO part of the problem has been the complacency of the general public. We haven’t been taught to stay involved and informed and our system has become more and more corrupted by special interests and big money. We, the voters have to insist on that change.

    First CosmosDan, thank you for your reply to my post, I should have replied sooner, because the way this site is designed, you may not read this, but I do appreciate your remarks.

    It is late, I am just unable to find the video of Obama making the statement regarding republicans sitting in the back of the bus, frankly I didn’t think much of it but as I LISTENED to him comment, NOT FOX, it did occur to me what if any of my family members made that same remark in Biloxi as white person. I only say that we are so PC, I am sure Obama didn’t have ill will, but as he said the remark, I was disappointed.

    I hope you might respect me that I did hear it from Obamas mouth and not FOX, but you are welcome to look into it.

    You are correct, things do not change over night. But he did his share of contributing to the situation as Bush caused while President.

    I wish more people were involved. Voters have to recall what they learned in Senior government class, who is reasonable for what and demand their state legislature honor the constitution, and to then make intelligent decision as it regards the federal government.

    These discussions are what saddens me as I watch my husband go overseas, that he so believes in this country, but it breaks his heart that many do not see the importance of casting a vote.

    Thank you again for such an insightful post.

    A few thoughts from a saddened chick via Ft Leavenworth, KS.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    uggugg says: “If you understand all of this so far you will understand that Obama is not a socialist but a realist.”

    If Obama was a socialist, he would have nationalized the big, Wall St. banks.
    If Obama was a socialist, he would have not put GM stock back onto the markets.
    If Obama was a socialist, he would have nationalized big oil.

    If Glenn Beck and the rest of the propagandists at FoxPAC were honest, these details wouldn’t even have to be spelled out.

    uggugg claims that Obama is a realist; that’s true. He’s also a liberal, and his willingness to use the power of the federal government has not only kept out of a nasty depression, what he did when he came into power saved the economy. Job creation is lagging, as it always does after a recession; but the recession of technically over last year.

    Because he is not a dictator able to tell the large corporations, who are sitting on $2 trillion of liquid capital (money), to hire people, the public wants to put in the party of large corporations who will allow these corporations to outsource the remaining jobs that they can.

    This election is about “big government” for the tea party extremists. This issue at the top of the concerns of most people is jobs. Jobs: elect Republicans and watch them disappear while the national debt explodes (from low taxes on the top 2% of income earners).

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