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Response And Fallout From Roger Ailes New York Feature: Ailes Thinks Palin Is ‘Smart’

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As the New York magazine profile of Fox News chief Roger Ailes continues to send shockwaves through the cable news universe, officials at Fox News are quick to clear up at least one inaccuracy while fair-minded readers of the article are left wondering about another question. Why did the piece feature a disparaging image of Ailes with a cigar blowing up in his face, while a similarly extensive profile of Media Matters founder David Brock, which appeared in the same issue of the magazine, showcased a flattering portrait of the Fox News nemesis?

The most intriguing charge in the piece was that Ailes believed one of his star employees, Sarah Palin, is truly “an idiot.” Yet Bill Shine, executive vice president of programming for Fox News Channel adamantly denied the accusation and today told The New York Times:

“I know for a fact that Roger Ailes admires and respects Sarah Palin and thinks she is smart. He also believes many members of the left wing media are extremely terrified and threatened by her. Despite a massive effort to destroy Sarah Palin, she is still on her feet and making a difference in the political world. As for the ‘Republican close to Ailes’ for which the incorrect Palin quote is attributed, when Roger figures out who that is, I guarantee you he or she will no longer be ‘close to Ailes.’”

The profile of Ailes is certainly not a hatchet job, and in fact paints an impressive portrait of a visionary captain who is extremely perceptive about what’s happening in every corner of his ship at all times. Yet with an insulting image accompanying the profile and with the use of many anonymous sources forcing upon Ailes various unpleasant thoughts and feelings about his Fox News talent and potential GOP presidential candidates, it calls into question the fairness and potential motive of the entire piece.

Especially when the man who is trying to “take down Fox” (Brock) receives glowing treatment, the contrast in coverage highlights the particular glee with which New York magazine seems to get from turning conservative stars against one another. Sean Hannity hates Glenn Beck! Bill O’Reilly hates Sean Hannity! Roger Ailes is not fond of Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck! The fact that the liberal-leaning magazine might not be as fair to Fox News isn’t shocking, but what may have surprised some is that instead of trying to hide their preference, the editors prominently and proudly illustrated it with the type of photo used to accompany each profile.

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  • tatboy

    Is Brock supposed to look like the Joker in that pic?

  • seek

    hmmmm lol.

  • Sean68

    Did you happen to see the picture of Chris Christie mediaite chose to run today? It looks like he’s threatening to beat the shit out of a teacher of the year.

  • tatboy

    Why did the piece feature a disparaging image of Ailes with a cigar blowing up in his face, while a similarly extensive profile of Media Matters founder David Brock, which appeared in the same issue of the magazine, showcased a flattering portrait of the Fox News nemesis?

    For the same reason TIME used the worst picture of Newt when he was TIME’s man of the year. Liberal HATE!!!

  • AngelPeters

    If Ailes thinks Palin is “smart”, then it’s Ailes who is the idiot. Ailes is no idiot, BTW. He understands PR. She doesn’t

  • AmeriCuda

    Gee, I wonder. Could It be because NEW YORK magazine is to the left of Chairman ObaMao.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    Liberal Media:
    cue the sound of WWII plane crashing…

  • WillP

    Here we go. Sarah Palin’s big supporter on Mediaite Matt Schneider refuting the merits of this article. If you can’t challenge the facts then question the credibility of the messenger. Of course, anything derogatory about Palin, Beck, Ailes, or Fox News is not factual. It is the product of a left leaning magazine intent on pitting Fox personnel against each other. As your colleague pointed out earlier today the magazine has done a very credible job now and before in the past writing articles about Fox News. But, a conspiracy and bias against Fox News sounds better especially when you don’t want to face the facts.

  • Nacho

    Bill Shine is protecting his product.

  • cjd ohio 1

    WillP said:
    Here we go. Sarah Palin’s big supporter on Mediaite Matt Schneider refuting the merits of this article. If you can’t challenge the facts then question the credibility of the messenger. Of course, anything derogatory about Palin, Beck, Ailes, or Fox News is not factual. It is the product of a left leaning magazine intent on pitting Fox personnel against each other. As your colleague pointed out earlier today the magazine has done a very credible job now and before in the past writing articles about Fox News. But, a conspiracy and bias against Fox News sounds better especially when you don’t want to face the facts.

    unnamed source vs named source…….are you for real?

  • wake up america

    Tell me Soros isn’t involved in this smear campaign? Has to work harder to get Obama elected, hope and Change won’t work this time and surely Obama’ s record wont work ( jumped from frying pan, into fire) so next, do personal assassination on opposing candidate. Obama really needs a billion to get elected, going to cost more for the smoke and mirrors tricks.

  • Girth Brick

    AmeriCuda said:
    Gee, I wonder. Could It be because NEW YORK magazine is to the left of Chairman ObaMao.

    The markets love Obama (up over 90% since Jan 2009) after eight years of Bush Fascism.

    You better read Warren Buffett or Soros on capitalism before you go talking nonsense.

  • WillP

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    unnamed source vs named source…….are you for real?

    It’s called damage control.

  • cjd ohio 1

    WillP said:
    It’s called damage control.

    i guess you are. lol

  • Nacho

    Look at the named source, Fox News Channel executive vice president of programming, Bill Shine.

    That carries about as much credibility as the unnamed source, actually, less.

    It’s called damage control.

  • greg454

    Why? It’s obvious, the New Yorker hates conservatives and loves liberals. Why else?
    http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

  • greg454

    I meant “New York Times Magazine.”

  • Pablo

    AngelPeters said:
    If Ailes thinks Palin is “smart”, then it’s Ailes who is the idiot. Ailes is no idiot, BTW. He understands PR. She doesn’t

    Yeah, that’s why nobody ever talks about her anymore.

  • Harry Flashman

    Told you from the beginning that this wouldn’t sttand. Ailes will disavow it himself next, and once again the left will be sitting there sputtering.

    I love being right.

  • Barack Must Go

    Welcome to obama’s amerika.Where the left wing bomb throwing scumfag is falsely portrayed as an actual man and the single most important conservative, responsible for the ” real ” Americans voice rising above the scum that is the MSM is portrayed as a fool.

    No matter. The writing for the foreigner in our White House and his terroristic ” Death To America ” manifesto are all but removed from the ” real ” American landscape.

    Let them ( democrat party and their co conspirators in the MSM and beyond ) eat cake I say. Their entire party will soon be over. And I mean OVER for easily the next 50, maybe 60 years.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    FOX SUCKS !!!!….And no matter how much you wingnuts moan about it FOX is still gonna suck…..get used to it tools…..its hard to admit youve been had so i’ll admitt it 4 ya….YOUVE BEEN HAD…..palin is an idiot plain and simple….if you think she isnt then youre the idiot and she is smart……take your pick

  • Rio

    What a difference a couple of hours make. Colby Gall pens pens his pov:

    This week’s issue of New York magazine includes an ambitious and thorough essay by Gabriel Sherman that provides an in-depth and fascinating portrayal of Fox News chief Roger Ailes. It is a must read for anyone curious about the inner-workings of the dominant cable news network, and includes a number of potentially game-changing revelations, a few of which have been outlined below.

    “…….The piece appears to be a balanced and well researched feature that wisely avoids a number of political generalizations and cliches that are typical of a hit piece.

    Matt Schneider offers indepth insight into same material:

    Yet with an insulting image accompanying the profile and with the use of many anonymous sources forcing upon Ailes various unpleasant thoughts and feelings about his Fox News talent and potential GOP presidential candidates, it calls into question the fairness and potential motive of the entire piece.

    Nice job, Matt!

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Barack Must Go said:
    Welcome to obama’s amerika.Where the left wing bomb throwing scumfag is falsely portrayed as an actual man and the single most important conservative, responsible for the ” real ” Americans voice rising above the scum that is the MSM is portrayed as a fool.

    No matter. The writing for the foreigner in our White House and his terroristic ” Death To America ” manifesto are all but removed from the ” real ” American landscape.

    Let them ( democrat party and their co conspirators in the MSM and beyond ) eat cake I say. Their entire party will soon be over. And I mean OVER for easily the next 50, maybe 60 years.

    How did the RAPTURE miss you?????

  • tatboy

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    FOX SUCKS !!!!….And no matter how much you wingnuts moan about it FOX is still gonna suck…..get used to it tools…..its hard to admit youve been had so i’ll admitt it 4 ya….YOUVE BEEN HAD…..palin is an idiot plain and simple….if you think she isnt then youre the idiot and she is smart……take your pick

    My Gawd you are bat $HIT crazy.

  • AngelPeters

    Nacho said:
    Bill Shine is protecting his product.

    No doubt.

  • AngelPeters

    Pablo said:
    Yeah, that’s why nobody ever talks about her anymore.

    Most people talk negatively about her, that is a fact. Polls support that she is seen in a negative light by most Americans.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    AngelPeters said:
    Most people talk negatively about her, that is a fact. Polls support that she is seen in a negative light by most Americans.

    Liberals need someone to smear to compensate for their lack of substance…
    it is all they have…
    Brock is just a dull tool in their shed…

  • tatboy

    Nacho said:
    Bill Shine is protecting his product.

    And the MSM is protecting their interests (Media Matters) by writing a fluffy piece and giving Brock a nice photo. Fox has to protect itself because no one else will The left (Brock and MM knows the entire MSM will protect them. Nice system you all have there.

  • Nacho

    Matt Schneider should know that the author of the piece most likely wasn’t the person that chose the imagines that accompanied it.

    The graphic designer’s bias may have more to do with it than the stories.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    ProObamaAgenda says:

    Michelle, isn’t there a tamale somewhere you should be eating?

  • AHP and SF

    Schneider carrying the water for Palin yet again. Well if Bill Shine denied it, then I guess it can’t be true. Kinda like if the NY Post says Obama is digging for dirt on New Jersey Fats, then I guess that must be true? Matty, you are a pathetic tea-bagger who is continually embarrassed in post after post on this site… and change that twit pic you clown.

  • GreyGoose

    Girth Brick said:
    The markets love Obama (up over 90% since Jan 2009) after eight years of Bush Fascism. You better read Warren Buffett or Soros on capitalism before you go talking nonsense.

    Wall Street has always been the financial arm of the Dem Party. Furthermore, they are the antithesis of capitalism (which is why the were Obam’s biggest backer in `08.)

    Dude, instead of blindly following what people tell you, why don’t you think for yourself and investigate things.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    I think it’s flippin hilarious that you libs call ANY of the writers at Mediaite teabaggers!! That tells us just how far to the loony left you must be

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bet King Obama took a copy of this magazine to read on his vacation this week .

  • WCinWI

    tatboy said:
    Why did the piece feature a disparaging image of Ailes with a cigar blowing up in his face, while a similarly extensive profile of Media Matters founder David Brock, which appeared in the same issue of the magazine, showcased a flattering portrait of the Fox News nemesis?

    For the same reason TIME used the worst picture of Newt when he was TIME’s man of the year. Liberal HATE!!!

    Or the same reason why a magazine used a sexist photo of Palin in running shorts in Newsweek. The media just can’t help themselves to being failures.

  • Girth Brick

    GreyGoose said:
    Wall Street has always been the financial arm of the Dem Party. Furthermore, they are the antithesis of capitalism (which is why the were Obam’s biggest backer in `08.)

    Dude, instead of blindly following what people tell you, why don’t you think for yourself and investigate things.

    Hilarious. Bush wrote a $700 billion TARP check – no one on the right has any business telling anyone else how Wall Street capitalism works.

    Obama FORCED these guys to raise their own capital and they have recovered.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    FOX SUCKS !!!!….And no matter how much you wingnuts moan about it FOX is still gonna suck…..get used to it tools…..its hard to admit youve been had so i’ll admitt it 4 ya….YOUVE BEEN HAD…..palin is an idiot plain and simple….if you think she isnt then youre the idiot and she is smart……take your pick

    Mrs. Obama , while you’re in London , don’t wear the tiara Robert Stephenson loaned you .

    And be sure and curtsey to the Queen . You know , like your 24 assistants and Jay Carney do to you each morning .

  • BlueBunny

    FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNELS NEW THING IS SPIN,SPIN,SPIN! ALL THE TIME KNOWING HOW STUPID YOU SHEEPLE ARE! FOLLOW BLINDLY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO PUSH! FALIN PALIN IS SMART!SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF ALL OF YOU! NOT SMART ENOUGH TO RUN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! YOU BETCHA!

  • BlueBunny

    Girth Brick said:
    Hilarious. Bush wrote a $700 billion TARP check – no one on the right has any business telling anyone else how Wall Street capitalism works

    THE FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL LEAVES ALL THAT TRUTH STUFF OUT DON’TCHA KNOW! FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL FOLLOWERS ARE TO BLINDED BY THE SHINY THINGS TO TAKE NOTICE!

  • Skippy

    To further disprove any rumors of tangled horns at the gNOpig propaganda network, Bill Shine is going to have KKKlownnity give Billdo one of his trademarked BJs on the Baboon’s show.

    Just watch the ratings SOAR!

  • TRexstasy

    Dear Mr. Schneider-

    Please remove Mr. Ailes’s penis from your mouth before you begin to type.

    Thank you,
    A Concerned Reader

  • Harry Flashman

    Aside from being a shining example of low class lefty vulgarity, just what exactly is this?

    “To further disprove any rumors of tangled horns at the gNOpig propaganda network, Bill Shine is going to have KKKlownnity give Billdo one of his trademarked BJs on the Baboon’s show.”

    Huh?

  • nm

    I suspect it won’t be too hard for Roger to track down the little Rogue fox…. he can’t have told too many people his Sarah secret.

  • Rio

    BlueBunny said:
    Girth Brick said:
    Hilarious. Bush wrote a $700 billion TARP check – no one on the right has any business telling anyone else how Wall Street capitalism works
    THE FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL LEAVES ALL THAT TRUTH STUFF OUT DON’TCHA KNOW! FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL FOLLOWERS ARE TO BLINDED BY THE SHINY THINGS TO TAKE NOTICE!

    Ya mean the only ones who knew Obama requested half of the TARP before he was even sworn in were the FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL viewers?

    Obama Requests Release Of Second Half Of $350 Billion TARP
    President-elect Barack Obama yesterday (Monday) asked Congress to release the remaining $350 billion in bank bailout money that’s part of the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

    http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/2009/01/13/obama-requests-release-of-second-half-of-350-billion-tarp/

    Or, you two bright ones can read it here……just to be entertained:

    President-elect Barack Obama is seeking the release of the second half of the $700 billion financial bailout package, as his top economic adviser told congressional leaders in a letter Monday that the need for funding is “imminent and urgent.”

    President Bush has agreed to ask Congress to release the remaining $350 billion on Obama’s behalf, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said Monday morning

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/12/obama-team-talks-tap-remaining-bailout-funds/

  • timzank

    Lotta buzz here about an anonymous sourced gossip colum in a new york magazine with 500k readers, elsewhere? no so much.

    Just libs pulling each others puds…

    Carry on, the rest of the nation will never even see or hear anything about this article.

  • Girth Brick

    TARP only became necessary due to the previous 8 years of poor capital standards.

    Bush HAD to sign TARP – but the fact he did is a sad testimony to his poor record of bank oversight.

  • nm

    It was an unflattering picture? Now, I know Roger didn’t say that!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lars-Svensen/100001028197161 Lars Svensen

    Yeah, limpy-lefty NYMag doing some Politico-style journolistm, just say whatever. Quick denial from FOX. Don’t want Mama Grizzly riled up.

  • timzank

    Girth Brick said:
    TARP only became necessary due to the previous 8 years of poor capital standards. Bush HAD to sign TARP – but the fact he did is a sad testimony to his poor record of bank oversight.

    Uhhh…you can thank Barney Frank & Chris Dodd for all those worthless mortgages and lack of oversight. They were “over-seeing” it, ha! Barney is the Chairman, he told BUSH and AMERICA on camera “nothing was wrong”….

  • Nacho

    tatboy said:
    And the MSM is protecting their interests (Media Matters) by writing a fluffy piece and giving Brock a nice photo. Fox has to protect itself because no one else will The left (Brock and MM knows the entire MSM will protect them. Nice system you all have there.

    Did you read the piece on Brock? It wasn’t a “flufffy” piece. It may have been more personal because the author had access to him and the one on Ailes’ didn’t, but it was a fair piece as was the one on Ailes.

    Beware of the conspiracy theories overwhelming your ability to reason.

  • timzank

    Lars Svensen said:
    Yeah, limpy-lefty NYMag doing some Politico-style journolistm, just say whatever. Quick denial from FOX. Don’t want Mama Grizzly riled up.

    Seriously, 500k readers and a weeks worth of blog posts here, kos & huff doesn’t a “shockwave” make.

  • AngelPeters

    skoorbekim said:
    Liberals need someone to smear to compensate for their lack of substance…
    it is all they have…
    Brock is just a dull tool in their shed…

    Spin the polls anyway you want. Polls still show, and it’s not just libs, that moderates see her in a negative light. Matched up against Obama, he wins by almost 20 points according to the RCP averages of polls

  • Skippy

    Harry Flashman said:
    Aside from being a shining example of low class lefty vulgarity, just what exactly is this?

    “To further disprove any rumors of tangled horns at the gNOpig propaganda network, Bill Shine is going to have KKKlownnity give Billdo one of his trademarked BJs on the Baboon’s show.”

    Huh?

    I would call it a brilliant, sure-fire way to spruce up the ratings. Especially the Baboon’s.

  • Girth Brick

    timzank said:
    Uhhh…you can thank Barney Frank & Chris Dodd for all those worthless mortgages and lack of oversight. They were “over-seeing” it, ha! Barney is the Chairman, he told BUSH and AMERICA on camera “nothing was wrong”….

    You’re crazy. Name the law Frank or Dodd passed over the GOP controlled Congress then?

    Quit listening to Rush (King of the Rednecks) Limpdick. I know where you get your lies from.

  • Nacho

    timzank said:
    Lotta buzz here about an anonymous sourced gossip colum in a new york magazine with 500k readers, elsewhere? no so much.

    Just libs pulling each others puds…

    Carry on, the rest of the nation will never even see or hear anything about this article.

    Haha, wishful thinking. Once FoxNews issued a statement, it went to every major outlet giving it even more momentum.

  • felixw

    As I pointed out here yesterday — much to the anger of the liberals who responded — no sources or direct quotes from Roger Ailes were included in this hit piece. So only those same liberals can be surprised today when Ailes denies saying these things about Palin. Anyone with half a brain could have seen that coming down the pike.

    The Left would do well to learn from this — one of the biggest problems with the liberal media today is that it believes what it wants to believe. So time and again it looks foolish — for example in this instance, or when they convinced themselves that Donald Trump was the Republican front runner.

  • Girth Brick

    timzank said:
    Uhhh…you can thank Barney Frank & Chris Dodd for all those worthless mortgages and lack of oversight. They were “over-seeing” it, ha! Barney is the Chairman, he told BUSH and AMERICA on camera “nothing was wrong”….

    And Mike Oxley (R) was Chair of House Financial Services during the sub-prime bubble – not Barney Frank. Barney was a peon who couldn’t schedule a meeting room during the Bush/DeLay years of 2001-2007.

  • Nacho

    felixw said:
    As I pointed out here yesterday — much to the anger of the liberals who responded — no sources or direct quotes from Roger Ailes were included in this hit piece. So only those same liberals can be surprised today when Ailes denies saying these things about Palin. Anyone with half a brain could have seen that coming down the pike.

    The Left would do well to learn from this — one of the biggest problems with the liberal media today is that it believes what it wants to believe. So time and again it looks foolish

    Where did Roger Ailes deny it?

  • BatBoy

    AngelPeters said:
    If Ailes thinks Palin is “smart”, then it’s Ailes who is the idiot. Ailes is no idiot, BTW. He understands PR. She doesn’t

    No Angle, It is not Ailes who is the idiot…it is you left wing people that eat this stuff up hoping in your heart of hearts that it is real.

    To which I say….”Get Real”
    This garbage you believe is going to kill you slowly! It just eats at you from the inside out!

  • Sam M.

    BatBoy said:
    No Angle, It is not Ailes who is the idiot…it is you left wing people that eat this stuff up hoping in your heart of hearts that it is real.

    To which I say….”Get Real”
    This garbage you believe is going to kill you slowly! It just eats at you from the inside out!

    Irony Alert!!

  • Face-Ripper Monkey

    BlueBunny said:
    FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNELS NEW THING IS SPIN,SPIN,SPIN! ALL THE TIME KNOWING HOW STUPID YOU SHEEPLE ARE! FOLLOW BLINDLY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO PUSH! FALIN PALIN IS SMART!SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF ALL OF YOU! NOT SMART ENOUGH TO RUN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! YOU BETCHA!

    Oo oo oo oo uh uh uh uh ah ah ah ah ah eeeeeeeeeeeah ah ah uh uh eeeeeeeee oo oo oo ooooooooo!

  • timzank

    Girth Brick said:
    And Mike Oxley (R) was Chair of House Financial Services during the sub-prime bubble – not Barney Frank. Barney was a peon who couldn’t schedule a meeting room during the Bush/DeLay years of 2001-2007.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZ9l_AxKjA&feature=player_embedded

    there are over 20 videos of Barney…..heh heh heh….

  • timzank
  • Girth Brick

    Face-Ripper Monkey said:
    Oo oo oo oo uh uh uh uh ah ah ah ah ah eeeeeeeeeeeah ah ah uh uh eeeeeeeee oo oo oo ooooooooo!

    A “true conservative” GOPer you are, FRM!

  • timzank

    Frank & Dodd’s fingerprints (or pecker tracks if you prefer) are all over the financial meltdown.

  • Girth Brick

    timzank said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZ9l_AxKjA&feature=player_embedded

    there are over 20 videos of Barney…..heh heh heh….

    What does that prove?

    That you have found the search function on Youtube?

    Congrats.

  • timzank

    Girth Brick said:
    What does that prove? That you have found the search function on Youtube? Congrats.

    Frank & Dodd are guilty as sin in all of it. That’s why you guys vote for them, they’re dishonest lying greedy government sucking theives, just like you!

  • Rio

    Girth Brick said:
    What does that prove?

    That and other facts prove that Barney was in this up to his neck and lying. The following article explains the problems were urgent enough in 2000 to take it to Congress and deal with it, actually it was known earlier than 2000.

    How Washington Failed to Rein In Fannie, Freddie
    As Profits Grew, Firms Used Their Power to Mask Peril

    Gary Gensler, an undersecretary of the Treasury, went to Capitol Hill in March 2000 to testify in favor of a bill everyone knew would fail.

    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were ascendant, giants of the mortgage finance business and key players in the Clinton administration’s drive to expand homeownership. But Gensler and other Treasury officials feared the companies had grown so large that, if they stumbled, the damage to the U.S. economy could be staggering. Few officials had ever publicly criticized Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but Gensler concluded it was time to urge Congress to rein them in.

    Long article, don’t be afraid of it.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/13/AR2008091302638_pf.html

    During Frank’s last campaign, he was still lying, per the above article, Frank was on the banking committee, they would have had access to the information first. Then in 2003 he’s claiming he did not know anything? and even if they are in trouble, the gov’t doesn’t bail them out? Pfft!

    Stance on Fannie and Freddie dogs Frank

    The issue that day in 2003 was whether mortgage backers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were fiscally strong. Frank declared with his trademark confidence that they were, accusing critics and regulators of exaggerating threats to Fannie’s and Freddie’s financial integrity. And, the Massachusetts Democrat maintained, “even if there were problems, the federal government doesn’t bail them out.’’

    http://articles.boston.com/2010-10-14/news/29309414_1_fannie-and-freddie-freddie-mac-fannie-mae

  • timzank

    “In 2003, while the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal, in response to accounting scandals, for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal, supported by the head of Fannie Mae, reflected the administration’s belief that Congress “neither has the tools, nor the stature” for adequate oversight. Frank stated, “These two entities …are not facing any kind of financial crisis … The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”[63] In 2003, Frank also stated what has been called his “famous dice roll”:[64] “I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness [in the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] that we have in the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Office of Thrift Supervision. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidised housing.”[65]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank

  • Girth Brick

    Rio and the other guy –

    A guy SAYING something is not law, you fools. Many investors thought Fannie was fine in 2003.

    This is how you do it –

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-1461

    HR 1461 – the Fannie REFORM ACT of 2005 would have defunded them and it PASSED the House with 330 votes!

    See how easy that is?

    Now you try it!

    What is the LAW or STATUTE where anyone PROTECTED Fannie Mae from the GOP?

  • Girth Brick

    timzank said:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank

    Talk means NOTHING. Politicians SAY stuff all the time.

    Once again – provide the LAW or STATUTE where Barney Frank “protected” Fannie from the GOP House, Senate and President.

    Dumbya SAID we were going to Mars! It must be true!!!!!!!!

  • timzank

    Girth Brick said:
    Talk means NOTHING. Politicians SAY stuff all the time. Once again – provide the LAW or STATUTE where Barney Frank “protected” Fannie from the GOP House, Senate and President. Dumbya SAID we were going to Mars! It must be true!!!!!!!!

    He blocked every attempt to reign them in you idiot. Where were you the last 10 years?

    http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.bicycles.racing/2008-09/msg02668.html

    Hiding from the truth only works for a while, not forever

  • Girth Brick

    timzank said:
    He blocked every attempt to reign them in you idiot. Where were you the last 10 years?

    http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.bicycles.racing/2008-09/msg02668.html

    Hiding from the truth only works for a while, not forever

    The Bill I linked PASSED, you Moron! (HR 1461)

    How is that “blocking”?

  • Rio

    Girth Brick said:
    Many investors thought Fannie was fine in 2003.

    Government officials knew that it was not “fine” and brought it to the attention of Congress. President Bush appealed to Congress to reign it in numerous times. Clinton was warned repeatedly during his term, after his term his cronies were running the FMs.

  • Rio

    Girth Brick said:
    How is that “blocking”?

    How did the Senate vote? When was it signed into law by the president? Blocking a bill doesen’t always occur in the House. Some members vote the wishes of their constituency knowing it won’t pass the Senate.

    330 votes? What happened to the companion bill in the Senate, why was it not brought up for vote? You are aware that a version of the bill has to go through a voting process in the Senate and then both bills reconciled before presented to the president to sign into law? You are aware of that? No?

  • Girth Brick

    Rio said:
    How did the Senate vote? When was it signed into law by the president? Blocking a bill doesen’t always occur in the House. Some members vote the wishes of their constituency knowing it won’t pass the Senate.

    330 votes? What happened to the companion bill in the Senate, why was it not brought up for vote? You are aware that a version of the bill has to go through a voting process in the Senate and then both bills reconciled before presented to the president to sign into law? You are aware of that? No?

    S. 190 was ready to vote when Bush killed it in order to protect sub-prime lending.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/one-finger-salute/

  • tatboy

    Nacho said:
    Did you read the piece on Brock? It wasn’t a “flufffy” piece. It may have been more personal because the author had access to him and the one on Ailes’ didn’t, but it was a fair piece as was the one on Ailes.

    Beware of the conspiracy theories overwhelming your ability to reason.

    REALLY!!!

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/ny-mag-relatively-responsible-arbiters-at-media-matters-deserve-credit-for-becks-demise-at-fox/

  • Nacho

    tatboy said:
    REALLY!!!

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/ny-mag-relatively-responsible-arbiters-at-media-matters-deserve-credit-for-becks-demise-at-fox/

    The story wasn’t about Media Matters, it was about Brock. Colby chose to focus on the Media Matters portion.

    You still haven’t read the piece.

  • tatboy

    tatboy said:
    REALLY!!!

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/ny-mag-relatively-responsible-arbiters-at-media-matters-deserve-credit-for-becks-demise-at-fox/

    You said the article (meaning the whole thing) WASN’T a “fluffy” piece. Colby (who is a liberal BTW) just blew that theory out of the water.

  • Nacho

    tatboy said:
    You said the article (meaning the whole thing) WASN’T a “fluffy” piece. Colby (who is a liberal BTW) just blew that theory out of the water.

    You still haven’t read the article.

    Did you read Ailes piece? There were nice things the author wrote about Ailes, so it obviously can’t be a hit piece, by your logic?

    Colby just went after the Media Matters portion. Clearly MM wasn’t the sole reason or even biggest reason Beck went down, but that does not make this a fluffy piece. try reading it.

  • Rio

    Girth Brick said:
    S. 190 was ready to vote when Bush killed it in order to protect sub-prime lending.

    Krugman is a partisan idiot, they have websites that tear everything he says apart, Oxley was in the House, not Senate. Looky here, Shelby was in the Senate:

    In July 2005 the committee voted on party lines for legislation that would impose tighter limits on Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s portfolios and which contained no affordable housing fund. A bill with less stringent limits passed in the House, but Senate Democrats strongly opposed Mr. Shelby’s bill, and it was not brought to the floor.

    http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/richard_c_shelby/index.html?inline=nyt-per

    Just the Facts: The Administration’s Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs
    White House News
    Setting the Record Straight
    In Focus: Economy
    For many years the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at a housing government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties. President Bush publicly called for GSE reform 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted. Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

    Calls for GSE reform listed:
    http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/09/20080919-15.html

  • J Baustian

    Media Matters has 90 employees? Hmm… Seems like each one has multiple Mediaite logins — they’ve been busy lately.

    You can tell which ones are MM employees/flunkies — the talking points are cut-and-paste, with a rotating selection of insults to add flavor.

  • jakester

    Sarah Palin is a genius, and a great journalist and visionary. RIGHT!

  • jakester

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Bet King Obama took a copy of this magazine to read on his vacation this week .

    For a pompous “commentator” who labels himself with the moniker of “Truth”, start by at least getting a few facts correct. Obama is the President, not king.

  • jakester

    Barack Must Go said:
    Welcome to obama’s amerika.Where the left wing bomb throwing scumfag is falsely portrayed as an actual man and the single most important conservative, responsible for the ” real ” Americans voice rising above the scum that is the MSM is portrayed as a fool.

    No matter. The writing for the foreigner in our White House and his terroristic ” Death To America ” manifesto are all but removed from the ” real ” American landscape.

    Let them ( democrat party and their co conspirators in the MSM and beyond ) eat cake I say. Their entire party will soon be over. And I mean OVER for easily the next 50, maybe 60 years.

    I can always count on you to come up with the most paranoid rw garbage that makes even Michael Savage sound sane. It is pointless to try to dissect your usual load of lies and cheap accusations, but since only total psychos or retards are still babbling that birther nonsense about the “foreigner” in the White House, the only thing real about you is your certified mental disability. You are one sick person.

  • News Hounds Ellen

    Obviously, I’m no Ailes fan but I think the point of the photo is not to disparage Ailes per se so much as an illustration of the point of the article: that Ailes’ role as stage manager of both Fox News and the GOP has blown up in his face.

    Instead of a knee-jerk cry of bias – just the kind of reaction we’d expect from Fox News – why don’t you consider and discuss whether or not the author made the case?

  • http://crpa.co Ron C. de Weijze

    This was “just” a declaration of war by the terrified Left. They must be believing, “what Osama could, we can too”. Especially since they have managed to get their equinomical in the White House.

  • JillKennedy

    I think if everyone truly knew the truth about Rupert Murdoch and what’s really in his heart, there wouldn’t be these problems. If everyone just knew that for the past 30 years or so he’s been on a crusade to find all the lost kittens of the world, I think there would be less hatred of this man and all the monsters he has created in his life.

    http://mankabros.com/blogs/chairman/2011/05/24/rupert-murdochs-special-charity/

  • kafantaris

    The world has changed and is changing but Roger Ailes refuses to do so. He is has quickly become an anachronism. And since he cannot shift gears, he will undo Fox News soon enough. Somebody there should tell him that he had a good run and it’s time to take a hike. You can only milk sour sentiments for so long, and he has managed to do it for a decade. It’s time now for Fox News to chart its own course — without Roger at the helm.

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