He’s right again.

“So, yeah, all of us naive people who imagined a country united by the destruction of a common, hated enemy? We totally should have envisioned the inevitable pissing match over who deserves the most credit and who got thanked enough.”

Hahaha!! Thank you, Jon Bershad! This is the America I know and love.

i wonder if he talks to elvis too.

Everyone should be thaking President Bush —- !!!

Here is Bill O’Reilly and Obama — as never seen before — after the White HOuse interview!! Unreal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROsLAKq1xBs

Rush can never be happy for the country. To be fair to Republicans, I wouldn’t even say he puts party over country first, he puts himself over country, party, family, religion, anything … Rush’s politics really boil down to himself and his rating.

If only this fat traitorous piece of shit were dead, too.

LOL Obama fooled Rush. Now Rush is pissed. Get over it Fatboy.

lolitahaze said:
i wonder if he talks to elvis too.

Ask your boss if you can leave your cubicle and change your diaper. Because you deserve it. Great reply. Idiot.

Publius219

If only this fat traitorous piece of shit were dead, too.

You have got to be kidding me. Obama commands a successful mission to bring about the demise of Osama bin Laden, and THIS guy has the nerve to sit in his cushy chair behind the comfort of his microphone in sunny Florida and spew this kind of garbage? I don’t care what side of the aisle you’re on, that’s just not how an honorable American should conduct themselves.

One more time for those of you Bush apologists.

Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic.

You’ll also note the story right here on this site from Brennan quashing this bullshit. The media isn’t pushing this. The baggers are. Facts just don’t bare out anything Bush did and when you watch this clip does it sound like Bush was still looking for Bin Laden to you? Watch it! It’s 1 minute and 34 seconds of proof!

http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/republicans-rush-rewrite-history-bush-and-bin-laden

J R D said:
Everyone should be thaking President Bush —- !!!

Here is Bill O’Reilly and Obama — as never seen before — after the White HOuse interview!! Unreal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROsLAKq1xBs

Really, so I guess you have no problem with us blaming Bush for the tanking economy now then. Wait didn’t Clinton cause 911? I am so confused by Republican logic. I think they are too.

jjay, I don’t think anybody has ever accused Rush of being an “honorable American” in the first place.

I think Obama and the SEAL’s should take Limbaugh’s compound next.

I suppose by this logic it was Obama’s fault that Bush’s intelligence on WMD’s was incorrect? Right, you can tell that what the Obama administration did is a BFD because the GOP baggers are trying to claim credit for it. Thanks for confirming what the entire country already knows. The ass kicking President is Barack Obama!

Somali Pirates – Zero
Bin Laden – Zero
Bush – Zero

jjay7381 said:
You have got to be kidding me. Obama commands a successful mission to bring about the demise of Osama bin Laden, and THIS guy has the nerve to sit in his cushy chair behind the comfort of his microphone in sunny Florida and spew this kind of garbage? I don’t care what side of the aisle you’re on, that’s just not how an honorable American should conduct themselves.

Got a reaction out of you, didn’t it? Rush wins.

"Real" American said:
LOL Obama fooled Rush. Now Rush is pissed. Get over it Fatboy.

Son, your round mouth never ends. Did you oily your hole really well Sunday night?

He’s going after a guy who right now is celebrating and basking in the the glory of taking down “America’s 1# enemy”.I’ll give it up to you Rush,you just never quit…. lol!

Interesting fact: although “You Lie!” hussein has been in office for more than two (disastrous) years, and the suspected location of osama has been known for months (he’s lived in that compound for more than six years), osama is killed ONLY AFTER “You Lie!” begins his re-election campaign, ensuring maximum campaign publicity.

Seriously..cuz I really don’t know. Do you guys in your cubicle get a bonus every time the name Limbaugh, Beck or Palin pop up on a web site? And then you just cut and paste? (Both questions were rhetorical) It’s getting(is) old.

By the way, a new Washington Post poll has Obama’s approval rating at 56 percent. Of course, Bush’s approval rating soared to 80 percent at one point……right after September 11th. I’m guessing that was pity since 3,000 people had to die to achieve that mark of distinction. At least no American was killed on Sunday.

see Jon Stewart thread

In my opinion, Obama, Holder and the Democrat Left need to make a boatload of apologies to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo and the CIA they threatened to prosecute.

Additionally, Lt. Col. Allen West deserves an apology and the charges against the four Navy SEALS need to be dropped and an apology issued.

Rush is right. Obama and the Dems are claiming credit for using EXACTLY the same policies that they used to excoriate and smear Bush, Cheney, etc. AND they violated the “no assassinations” policy on top of it. It wasn’t a capture or kill mission- it was a kill mission- otherwise, why was the shroud and all of the stuff prepared for his funeral at sea?

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/figures-obama-prosecutes-seals-for-slapping-top-terrorist-praises-seals-for-shooting-osama-in-the-head/

Clarity and consistency were never Obama’s strengths.

In November 2009 the Obama Administration charged 4 Navy SEALS with assault for slapping terrorist mastermind Ahmed Hashim Abed and giving him a fat lip.
One of the Navy SEALS was cleared of charges in April 2010.
The SEALS were accused of mistreating a wanted Iraqi terrorist who was behind the murder of 4 US contractors in Fallujah in 2004.

It was 2004: Fallujah, Iraq. Four civilian U.S. contractors were transporting supplies for a catering company. They were ambushed, killed, their bodies burned and dragged through the streets, then hung from a bridge on the Euphrates River. A NAVY SEAL TEAM captured one of the military’s “most wanted” terrorists, the one responsible for the heinous crime. Now 4 of our bravest and finest are facing prosecution because the scumbag terrorist claimed he got a bloody lip while in their custody.

Last night Barack Obama praised the Navy SEALS for shooting Osama Bin Laden in the head and killing his son.

I knew Rush would find a way to get this back into his daily bash-a-thon. Limbaugh would bash his mother if he thought he would get ratings out of it.

I personally think he deserves to be ignored like a whiny 2 year old.

Edith Massey said:
Really, so I guess you have no problem with us blaming Bush for the tanking economy now then. Wait didn’t Clinton cause 911? I am so confused by Republican logic. I think they are too.

I have no problem blaming Bush. But do you have a problem blaming the dumbocrat controled congress that voted for all the spending?

Wrong again. Try this!

Politico reports that supporters of George W. Bush are “irked” that the former president isn’t getting more credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden, despite the droves of conservatives lawmakers and pundits who have been rushing to give Bush equal credit as Obama.

But this praise for Bush relies on rewriting history to obscure the fact Obama re-prioritized the hunt for Bin Laden after Bush had largely abandoned the effort to focus on Iraq.

While many conservatives are triumphantly replaying Bush’s September 2001 declaration that he would find Bin Laden, just months later, by Bush’s own account, he was unconcerned about the terrorist mastermind. Asked about the hunt for Bin Laden at a March, 2002 press conference, Bush said, “I truly am not that concerned about him. I am deeply concerned about Iraq.” “I really just don’t spend that much time on him, to be honest with you,” Bush added.

By 2006, the trail for Bin Laden had gone “stone cold” and Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes said Bush told him that hunting Bin Laden was “not a top priority use of American resources.” (Indeed, there was a flailing war in Iraq to fight.)

That year, it was revealed that the administration had he shuttered the CIA’s Bin Laden unit in late 2005. As the New York Times reported at the time, the move reflected a shift in resources to Iraq:

In recent years, the war in Iraq has stretched the resources of the intelligence agencies and the Pentagon, generating new priorities for American officials. For instance, much of the military’s counterterrorism units, like the Army’s Delta Force, had been redirected from the hunt for Mr. bin Laden to the search for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed last month in Iraq.

But Bush’s biggest misstep in the Bin Laden hunt occurred years before, in the early days of the war in Afghanistan. As a 2009 Senate Foreign Relations Committee report found, the Bush administration blew a critical opportunity to capture Bin Laden in 2001. Bin Laden was wounded and on the run, but top Bush national security officials rejected repeated pleas for reinforcements from commanders and intelligence officials fighting the terrorist leader in the caves of Tora Bora, despite the availability of resources:

Fewer than 100 American commandos were on the scene with their Afghan allies and calls for reinforcements to launch an assault were rejected. Requests were also turned down for U.S. troops to block the mountain paths leading to sanctuary a few miles away in Pakistan. The vast array of American military power, from sniper teams to the most mobile divisions of the Marine Corps and the Army, was kept on the sidelines. Instead, the U.S. command chose to rely on airstrikes and untrained Afghan militias. [...]

Even when his own commanders and senior intelligence officials in Afghanistan and Washington argued for dispatching more U.S. troops, [Commanding Gen. Tommy] Franks refused to deviate from the plan.

The report “removes any lingering doubts and makes it clear that Osama bin Laden was within our grasp at Tora Bora,” but that decisions made by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, his deputies, and other top administration officials allowed Bin Laden to escape.

The consequence of this missed ooportunity are tremendous. As Lt. Col. Reid Sawyer, the director of the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point, told NPR yesterday, “if bin Laden had been killed in Afghanistan eight years ago in the caves of Tora Bora, al-Qaida might well have died with him. Now the organization is diversified enough it could weather bin Laden’s death — and hardly miss a beat.”

Moreover, as Rumsfeld himself acknowledged, Bush’s extra-legal torture and rendition policies did not help capture Bin Laden. Enhanced interrogation techniques did not work. Bush ordered one final push to capture Bin laden shortly before he left office, but this effort too was unsuccessful.

The problem with Obama is a character issue. He has narcissistic personality disorder and is unable to see any event in a “we” light. He isn’t about the United States as a nation, but about himself as a politician.

He had only to phrase his speech Sunday night in terms of “our military,” our decision”, “our excellent and dogged CIA”, thank President Bush and VP Cheney for putting in place the structure that allowed our intelligence agencies to find bin Laden, etc. He simply could not do it.

The Left needs to apologize to those whose policies they are ONLY NOW trying to embrace.

The right wing rewriting of history and bending over backwards to make apologies for the bush administration’s crimes is telling of the mass right wing brainwashing and loyalty to party over country.

Bwahahaha. I am completely and utterly unsurprised that the leftist morons are finding it difficult to give credit to Bush when your elitist moron community organizer KEPT THE EXACT SAME POLICIES IN PLACE. AFTER CAMPAIGNING AGAINST THEM. November 2nd, 2010 was just a start, wizards.

Rush is 100% right. Obama did everything Bush would have done if he had known Osama was in that house.
1. Invade a country illegally (Pakistan).
2. Kill unarmed civilians (Osama’s wife)
3. Kill a man without trial (Osama)

The difference is that when Bush does it, they call him a terrorist, yet when Obama does it, they call him a hero.

Frankly, I’m glad Osama is dead, but Obama does owe anyone who supported the war on terror an apology. By the way, where is Cindy Sheehan, how come you liberals no longer want to hear what she has to say?

I know George W. Bush met with commie Cindy twice, will Obama meet with her once?Figures.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Timothy Wright said:
The right wing rewriting of history and bending over backwards to make apologies for the bush administration’s crimes is telling of the mass right wing brainwashing and loyalty to party over country.

You sir, are an idiot.

I have no problem with Obama using “I”; what was he supposed to use, the Royal “We”? As President and Commander-In-Chief, the decisions involved were ultimately his. If anything had gone wrong, I doubt anybody would be blaming W.
Speaking of which, George W. Bush had plenty of techniques and info at his disposal. I don’t see anyone blasting him for “not finding Bin-Laden sooner”.

William G. Abraham said:
I am completely and utterly unsurprised that the leftist morons are finding it difficult to give credit to Bush when your elitist moron community organizer KEPT THE EXACT SAME POLICIES IN PLACE. AFTER CAMPAIGNING AGAINST THEM.

Did you know that putting your thoughts into ALL CAPITALS does not make them correct?

George Bush owes us an even bigger apology for not finding Osama bin Laden AT ALL.

LOL!!!

Logic clearly isn’t Rush’s strong suit. Pulling stuff out of his ass definitely is, though, so no surprises here.

Limbaugh is mad, fact. It wasn’t the Dems that made Bush say he is not really bothered about OBL.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
The problem with Obama is a character issue. He has narcissistic personality disorder and is unable to see any event in a “we” light. He isn’t about the United States as a nation, but about himself as a politician. He had only to phrase his speech Sunday night in terms of “our military,” our decision”, “our excellent and dogged CIA”, thank President Bush and VP Cheney for putting in place the structure that allowed our intelligence agencies to find bin Laden, etc. He simply could not do it. The Left needs to apologize to those whose policies they are ONLY NOW trying to embrace.

Go back and read my previous and very long comment and then, tell me again who made the right decision. Oh, and Jay Carney just knocked down this BS in his daily briefing.

Rush is being a tad dishonest here. Obama heaped a lot of praise during his speech.

William G. Abraham said:
KEPT THE EXACT SAME POLICIES IN PLACE. AFTER CAMPAIGNING AGAINST THEM

Bush’s stated policy was that bin Laden wasn’t a priority. Obama’s campaign position was to get him even if Pakistan wouldn’t cooperate.

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
Rush is 100% right. Obama did everything Bush would have done if he had known Osama was in that house.1. Invade a country illegally (Pakistan).2. Kill unarmed civilians (Osama’s wife)3. Kill a man without trial (Osama) The difference is that when Bush does it, they call him a terrorist, yet when Obama does it, they call him a hero. Frankly, I’m glad Osama is dead, but Obama does owe anyone who supported the war on terror an apology. By the way, where is Cindy Sheehan, how come you liberals no longer want to hear what she has to say? I know George W. Bush met with commie Cindy twice, will Obama meet with her once?Figures. http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

By the way, the wife was not killed. She was shot in the leg. See how listening to rightwing noise can be embarrassing? As for your list, you could be describing Bush’s invasion of Iraq. Do you realize that?

Well said Boomer! I’m tired of trying to provide facts to these crash test dummies. I’ve gotta go. Let them stew in their own bogus vomit!

The nerve of you libs to want to take credit for this get, when you oppose pretty much every intelligence gathering tool, to the point of denegrating our military and CIA is disgusting and laughable. Your hypocrisy truly knows no bounds.

Rush who? Is he the Bush brother that was thrown out of the family for drug addiction? I feel bad for him- he clearly has no functioning brain cells left. Hey, Rush, lots of folks collected intel, but only one had the guts to act on it. “Speak softly and carry a big stick.”, not ” dash about wildly and spew nonsense”.

Rush Limbaugh’s mother owes of all of us an apology.

Liberal Tormentor said:
The nerve of you libs to want to take credit for this get, when you oppose pretty much every intelligence gathering tool, to the point of denegrating our military and CIA is disgusting and laughable. Your hypocrisy truly knows no bounds.

So what took 2 wars, over five thousand American lives, ten years and hundreds of billions of dollars for Bush not to do is somehow just a “get” for Obama? I’m no huge fan of Obama, but this is just ridiculous, I mean Bush took credit for the lack of terrorist attacks for god sake.

So the obese, drug-addicted oaf is anti-American. I knew as much. Well, for him the “good feelings” of the past couple of days may have gone away (or never existed for this perennially shit-filled anti-American scumbag), but amongst me and my friends, both left and right, and among the vast majority of everyday Americans, we are proud of our President for taking such a huge risk for such a successful outcome.

Far right wing creeps like him and many who post endlessly (24/7 in some cases) on sites like this are very much in the very small minority.

“As for your list, you could be describing Bush’s invasion of Iraq. Do you realize that?”

THAT’S MY POINT! You people give this Marxist Mulatto President breaks you would have never given Bush in a million years? Don’t you get it? When it comes to war, Obama is Bush!

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
“As for your list, you could be describing Bush’s invasion of Iraq. Do you realize that?”

THAT’S MY POINT! You people give this Marxist Mulatto President breaks you would have never given Bush in a million years? Don’t you get it? When it comes to war, Obama is Bush!

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

When people call you a racist it’s because you use the word Mulatto unprompted.

Just an FYI.

TeaPartyPatriot said:
Interesting fact: although “You Lie!” hussein has been in office for more than two (disastrous) years, and the suspected location of osama has been known for months (he’s lived in that compound for more than six years), osama is killed ONLY AFTER “You Lie!” begins his re-election campaign, ensuring maximum campaign publicity.

thats how politics works asshole….didnt you know????….ever since you wingnuts decided to join the taliban in its campaign AGAINST America youve been getting your dumb asses kicked by Obama…all this time you were claiming hatred for Osama, but his sudden death brings out the truth….YOU WINGNUTS LOVE THAT BASTARD…HES ONE OF YOU…LIKE A BROTHER

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
this Marxist Mulatto President

Some people just can’t learn.

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
“As for your list, you could be describing Bush’s invasion of Iraq. Do you realize that?”

THAT’S MY POINT! You people give this Marxist Mulatto President breaks you would have never given Bush in a million years? Don’t you get it? When it comes to war, Obama is Bush!

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

why dont you MAN UP and refer to the president by the N word….we know thats what youre thinking…you CAN SAY IT HERE…this is no holds barred politics…bitch ass conservatives like you are cowards..always leaving yourselves a path tp plausable deniability…I know Obamas foot planted in ya punk ass is starting to hurt…we’re all adults here, we can take it….little white sheet and pointy hat wearing asswipes like you dont mean nothing to us

Liberal Tormentor said:
The nerve of you libs to want to take credit for this get, when you oppose pretty much every intelligence gathering tool, to the point of denegrating our military and CIA is disgusting and laughable. Your hypocrisy truly knows no bounds.

Progressivism means getting to have it both ways.

The people who post here love the “Divided States of America” Guess what. We don’t need you. Leave the country. Go live somewhere else. We would be better off without you.

huntingtonboy said:
The people who post here love the “Divided States of America” Guess what. We don’t need you. Leave the country. Go live somewhere else. We would be better off without you.

Yep. They should all move to Texas then we can let Texas secede from the union as they’ve been threatening to do for years. I would not be opposed to dumping them all there.

These conservatives are unpatriotic malcontents. They have no respect for American values, institutions or our constitutional or legal structure. It time for them to emigrate to somewhere else however there a few places that would take them. Definitely Canada nor Australia would take them. They stain America’s reputation globally with their ignorance and bigotry. Birtherism was seen around the world for what it is, old fashioned redneck racism. A of these people are the decedents of confederaste traitors. I guess what would you expect. An apple does not fall far from the tree.

“The people who post here love the “Divided States of America” Guess what. We don’t need you. Leave the country. Go live somewhere else. We would be better off without you.”

—Why should we be the ones leaving? If progressives want to be like Canada and Europe why don’t they move there? America is a FREE country in spite of the election of the Marxist Mulatto.

mu·lat·to
   /məˈlætoʊ, -ˈlɑtoʊ, myu-/ Show Spelled[muh-lat-oh, -lah-toh, myoo-] Show IPA
–noun, plural mu·lat·toes, mu·lat·tos.
1.
the offspring of one white parent and one black parent: not in technical use.
2.
a person whose ancestry is a mixture of Negro and Caucasian.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

huntingtonboy said:
The people who post here love the “Divided States of America” Guess what. We don’t need you. Leave the country. Go live somewhere else. We would be better off without you.

And the cracks form as Progressives move away from the Globalist agenda towards an ideology we can no longer call by name thanks to the terminology being appropriated and turned into the world’s greatest evil in the 1940s.

“When people call you a racist it’s because you use the word Mulatto unprompted.
Just an FYI.”

—Thanks, but I really don’t care. I used “Marxist Mulatto” because it rhymes, it’s fun, and it’s my way of taking revenge over all those “Bush looks like a monkey” cartoons and jokes I had to put up with for 8 years.

Besides, nowadays the word “racist” means “someone who disagrees with Obama.” So being called a racist means nothing.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Sigh, ok right wingers let me get this straight. 9-11 happened on Bush’s watch biggest attack in US history, but not Bush’s fault it was Clintons fault cause he wasnt in office long enough check? Then he attacks Iraq doesnt find WMD although im not sure who you guys blame for that. Then the economy crashes under his watch, biggest crash since great depression but somehow you guys blame Obama for that. Defecit increases more under him than any president since world war 2 and thats Obamas fault as well. Then two and a half years into Obamas administration he catches the biggest criminal in the last 40 years and kills him, after Bush was looking for him for 8 and you guys credit Bush for that. Wow did President Bush ever do anything wrong in your eyes? I never knew that 2000- to 2008 was such a great time to be alive in America! Man im sorry i missed it.

huntingtonboy said:
The people who post here love the “Divided States of America” Guess what. We don’t need you. Leave the country. Go live somewhere else. We would be better off without you.

By “divided” do you mean like the “haves” who got theirs by denying equality to the “have-nots?” Do you mean like stirring up hatred against the rich? Like stirring hatred and demanding reparations from whites innocent of slave ownership? By confiscating property from those you deem unworthy and redistributing it as you see fit? By demanding higher taxes for the “rich?” Do you mean, “yes, we can” as a battle cry against the productive achievers in America. That kind of “divided states?”

ProObamaAgenda said:
why dont you MAN UP and refer to the president by the N word….we know thats what youre thinking…you CAN SAY IT HERE…this is no holds barred politics…bitch ass conservatives like you are cowards..always leaving yourselves a path tp plausable deniability…I know Obamas foot planted in ya punk ass is starting to hurt…we’re all adults here, we can take it….little white sheet and pointy hat wearing asswipes like you dont mean nothing to us

WOW! All those bad words you just typed..and you got pissed by the word mulatto. Hmmm

danker says:
George Bush owes us an even bigger apology for not finding Osama bin Laden AT ALL.

Pay attention moron. If was Bush doing the things that you libs blasted him for that led to finding Bin Laden. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t claim credit for getting Bin Laden when you were against the tools that led to it. Nice try though!

ProObamaAgenda said: Blah, Blah, Blah, racist, pointy hat, sheets……

Reverend Wright, is that you?

insideguy said:
I never knew that 2000- to 2008 was such a great time to be alive in America! Man im sorry i missed it.

I’m sorry you missed it, too. If you hadn’t, you know that Bush ended a string of 11 Muslim terror attacks on legal US soil that went unabated throughout Clinton’s malfeasance………….a string that led up to 9/11 according the Bin Laden himself.

You also might know that the entire world including the UN and the entire Democrat Party leadership were convinced Saddam had nuclear WMD’s, There was no intel to the contrary.

You’d also know that Bush’s worst deficit was $40 Billion……………a rather small morsel compared to the $1.5 Trillion Hussein masterminded twice. But, you’d still probably try to ignore the fact that the economy was at 6% growth with 4% unemployment, and a Dow above 14000…………….UNTIL…………..Democrats took over power in 2006.

But, you weren’t around then.

Edith Massey says:
I think Obama and the SEAL’s should take Limbaugh’s compound next.

I think you’d find that the military are WAY more pro-Rush than pro-Obama.

roxsteady said:
By the way, the wife was not killed. She was shot in the leg. See how listening to rightwing noise can be embarrassing?

Right wing noise emanating from the Obama White House?

A woman killed during the raid of Osama bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan was not his wife and was not used as a human shield by the al Qaeda leader before his death, a U.S. official said on Monday, correcting an earlier description.

rox, you’re a moron.

Mediaite is a potentially great website, but if the owners are just going to allow the discussion to deteriorate to racist comments and ridiculous arguing that is not about media, but about the underlying politics covered by the media, the site will fail.

Oh Davo my friend I was and u may wanna check your 40 billion figure. So i see the Dems take office in 2006 and the economy crashes interesting logic. So the President doesnt take any blame for that either? Under that logic the economy should come roaring back now that your republicans are back in. I got It Bush did everything right thats why he will go down in history as such a great man. Anything bad that happened under Bushs watch was the democrats fault. How bout the largest gap between rich and poor in the nations history. Not Bushs fault either. How bout his boy chenny saying the Iraq operations the war in Iraq will take weeks maybe months certainly not years? Not Bushs fault. How bout taking his eye of the ball in Afghanistan and letting Osama get away? Not his fault im sure. How come he didnt take Osama out during his first 9 months in office. I dont even think he mentioned his name during that period. At least Clinton tried. How bout the fact that until Obama got into office there were 40,000 troops in Afghanistan, and Bush said that he wasnt really even looking for Osama anymore? One thing that was consistent with Mr. Bush is he had a hard time finding things while in office,(WMDs Osama) but you guys are great at finding excuses for him. Just let me get this straight good things happen during Obama admin, give Bush credit. Bad things happen during Obama admin, blame Obama

Liberal Tormentor said:
danker says:
George Bush owes us an even bigger apology for not finding Osama bin Laden AT ALL.

Pay attention moron. If was Bush doing the things that you libs blasted him for that led to finding Bin Laden. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t claim credit for getting Bin Laden when you were against the tools that led to it. Nice try though!

Liberal Tormentor said:
Edith Massey says:
I think Obama and the SEAL’s should take Limbaugh’s compound next.

I think you’d find that the military are WAY more pro-Rush than pro-Obama.

Liberals have been against the stated reasons for the wars and the interrogation methods. Evidence shows that it was standard interrogation methods that caused KSM to divulge. What other tools are you referring to so that i can smack that down as well.

Obama got 44% of the military vote in 2008. Given the fact that a very small percent even among the GOp condones Rush you’re very wrong on that.
Try again!

oh and Davo my friend this is from the world Almanac. Maybe this isnt right wing enough for your but debt in 2000 was 5 trillion,debt in 2007 was 9 trillion thats a little more than 40 billion a year,unless you are using home school math buddy.

The military love Rush, UNreasonable lib. That’s just fact.

The Libs hate Bush. They hated him from the moment he won the election and George Soros spent a hell of a lot of money making sure that they hated him more. (Someone DOES need to do a psychological profile of that man!)

Remember how villified Bush was for sitting through a second grade book program? Well, here’s that “noted right-wing rag” Time Magazine on the subject. I did not agree with everything that Bush did. I thought he was too RINO in his fiscal policies and I questioned his going into Iraq, and still do. However, I never doubted that Bush’s instincts were driven by his love for this country and his belief in American principles and values. Screw Soros’ “One World Order,” I am an American and proud of it. How’s that European Union thingy working out for you- wait, it’s probably great for the wealthy political elite, like Soros.

So, give me George Walker Bush over Barack Hussein Obama ANY day. God bless him and God bless Dick Cheney.

The Interrupted Reading: The Kids with George Bush on 9/11
By Tim Padgett

All sorts of similar kid fears started running through Mariah Williams’ head. “I don’t remember the story we were reading — was it about pigs?” says Williams, 16. “But I’ll always remember watching his face turn red. He got really serious all of a sudden. But I was clueless. I was just seven. I’m just glad he didn’t get up and leave because then I would have been more scared and confused.” Chantal Guerrero, 16, agrees: even today she’s grateful that Bush regained his composure and stayed with the students until The Pet Goat was finished. “I think the President was trying to keep us from finding out,” says Guerrero, “so we all wouldn’t freak out.”

Guerrero, today a junior at the Sarasota Military Academy, believes the experience “has since given us all a better understanding of the situation, sort of made us take it all more seriously. At that age I couldn’t understand how anyone could take innocent lives that way. And I still of course can’t. But today I can problem-solve it all a lot better, maybe better than other kids because I was kind of part of it.” Williams, also a junior at the military academy, says those 9/11 moments spent with Bush conferred on the kids a sort of historical authority as they grew up in Sarasota. “Today, when we talk about 9/11 in class and you hear kids make mistakes about what happened with the President that day, I can tell them they’re wrong. Because I was there.”

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2069327,00.html#ixzz1LKQQAmoP

Liberal Tormentor said:
The military love Rush, UNreasonable lib. That’s just fact.

No they don’t.

Limbaugh is the biggest douchebag our country has ever known. This un-American POS should be shot and buried at sea with the azzhole terrorist Bin Ladin, the two have a lot in common ! ! ! !

Limbaugh might want to follow Dick Cheney’s lead a swallow a tapeworm. My God, he is enormous.

His comments are disgusting. I was painting today and didn’t want to wreck my radio. I’ll make sure to have a different station on next time.

Well there it is, Mr. Oxycontin’s revisionist history.

“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

“I am truly not that concerned about him.”
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

I guess the coke head and the pill popper do have something in common.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Edith Massey says:
I think Obama and the SEAL’s should take Limbaugh’s compound next.

I think you’d find that the military are WAY more pro-Rush than pro-Obama.

you’re a brainwashed phucking dumbazz for believing that bullsh!t, over 90% of any service hates that moronic imbecilic traitor !!! …. why would any military care for somebody that hates our country?
Especially this fat turd that used a pimple on his butt to get out of serving! ..and that was probably from getting screwed up the rear when he travels to other countries for sex !

O’Reilly and Obama can be seen in new video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROsLAKq1xBs
Don’t miss this !!!

The person that made that made that youtube vid must be retarded, stupidest thing I’ve ever watched.
Besides that fat turd Limbaugh ,,,,

Just one more addition to the Barack Obama ‘Owes Us An Apology’ list. A list presently numbering in the thousands.

insideguy said:
I got It Bush did everything right thats why he will go down in history as such a great man. Anything bad that happened under Bushs watch was the democrats fault.

Sorry to reduce your new list of Bush-hate, but you didn’t seem to be able to back up your last list, so I just thought we could cut to the chase……

No, Bush didn’t do everything right………………..he only did 2 things right IMO. Bush cut taxes that reversed a major downturn that started the last 2 years of Clinton’s malfeasance and tanked after 9/11. The results I already gave you. The other thing Bush did right was take the war on terror off our shores and to the enemy’s homeland. Other than those, Bush governed like a Liberal Democrat.

Bush grew government like a Democrat, spent money like a Democrat, muddled in our education system, and created much of the framework that Hussein has perverted into his Marxist mission to “re-invent” America. So no, Bush isn’t admired by any Conservatives I know.

But none of the accusations by you and other Dims against Bush have credibility. The “stimulus” program was born of Democrat parents (Congress) and nursed by Bush. The cause of the financial failures were banks forced by Democrat politicians to fund loans to racial minorites completely unqualified to repay those loans, but completely willing to vote for those Demons who convinced them they were doing them a favor. Again, the economy was strong until Democrat dominance.

Now I do have compassion for you Dims……………..I’d really hate to have to try to support 10% unemployment, a paralyzed GDP, skyrocketing gas and food costs, and America’s diminished stature abroad……………..all as a “good” thing we need more of. So, I don’t blame you for trying to shift blame for your dark side’s incompetence anywhere you can. But truth and logic are what’s left standing after the facade of Liberalism crumbles from around them.

Hey Rush why would anyone thank George W. Bush for Obama killing bin Laden. Bush didn’t even want bin Laden

Published on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 by Inter Press Service
U.S. Refusal of 2001 Taliban Offer Gave bin Laden a Free Pass
by Gareth Porter

WASHINGTON – When George W. Bush rejected a Taliban offer to have Osama bin Laden tried by a moderate group of Islamic states in mid- October 2001, he gave up the only opportunity the United States would have to end bin Laden’s terrorist career for the next nine years.

The al Qaeda leader was able to escape into Pakistan a few weeks later, because the Bush administration had no military plan to capture him.

The last Taliban foreign minister, Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil, offered at a secret meeting in Islamabad Oct. 15, 2001 to put bin Laden in the custody of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), to be tried for the 9/11 terror attacks on the United States, Muttawakil told IPS in an interview in Kabul last year.

The OIC is a moderate, Saudi-based organisation representing all Islamic countries. A trial of bin Laden by judges from OIC member countries might have dealt a more serious blow to al Qaeda’s Islamic credentials than anything the United States would have done with bin Laden.

Muttawakil also dropped a condition that the United States provide evidence of bin Laden’s guilt in the 9/11 attacks, which had been raised in late September and reiterated by Taliban Ambassador to Pakistan Abdul Salam Zaeef on Oct. 5 – two days before the U.S. bombing of Taliban targets began.

Eddie0 said:
you’re a brainwashed phucking dumbazz for believing that bullsh!t, over 90% of any service hates that moronic imbecilic traitor !!! …. why would any military care for somebody that hates our country?
Especially this fat turd that used a pimple on his butt to get out of serving! ..and that was probably from getting screwed up the rear when he travels to other countries for sex !

Rush is a draft dodger and I can say with some experience that Vet’s hate draft dodgers pretty much more than anyone.

I have been noticing that the past couple of days the tide has really turned with the Mediaite comments. Looks like the teabagger Republicans are outnumbered here now, finally. Guess when they started crying and whining about Obama getting Osama, people finally are seeing what completely unamerican hypocrites they really are. Way to go teabaggers! Even Mediaite doesn’t like you anymore.

Oh Davo you mean when Bush cut taxes to cure Clintons horrible economy when there was 4 to 6 percent unemployment and we were running surpluses? Yea that was a brilliant move to cut taxes during a time of war, that helped out with our deficit alot! Im not sure any president has ever tried that one before. And your second intresting point about taking the terror off shores hmmmmm. Well I should hope so after he was the president during the biggest attack ever on our shores! And thank you for your compassion just like I had compassion for the conservatives when gas prices were as high or higher during the last year of the Bush administration, the crashing economy where the dow went down 50% and his failure to find the worlds biggest threat. Under your logic Obama has done well in keeping us safe and keeping the war off our shores, so they are both about the same in your mind. Only difference is Obama actually found Osama:)

Liberal Tormentor said:
The military love Rush, UNreasonable lib. That’s just fact.

You say they’re more pro-Rush than pro-Obama yet my numbers contradict that and you have nothing to support your claim. Why is it that? Can you just admit you’re lying and trolling? I’d respect you more if you did.

insideguy said:
And thank you for your compassion just like I had compassion for the conservatives when gas prices were as high or higher during the last year of the Bush administration, the crashing economy where the dow went down 50%

Are you a teenager yet, inside? Clearly you really weren’t around during the years you’re referring to, because you keep bringing up the effects of the Democrat controlled government after ’06 when Bush was a lame duck. It looks like you just enjoy sparring rather than debating. Do some homework, then come on back.

Davo your good at personal attacks. Naa i wasnt a teenager but I did just learn to read the Almanac and crush your 40 billion dollar deficit remark during the Bush years. Look it up. So gas prices and the economy were the product of a democratic congress during the last two years of the Bush admin. Ok let me give you that insane comment. Why did gas prices go down and the stock market go up during the first two years of the Obama admin? The Dems had both houses and the presidency during this time. Please educate my teenage mind.

redstate said:
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

“I am truly not that concerned about him.”
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

the first quote is bogus… i notice you didn’t source it but i’ve seen it referenced at any number of partisan hack sites… as for the second quote, how about a little context from the presser?:

Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part — deep in your heart, don’t you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won’t really eliminate the threat of –

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he’s alive at all. Who knows if he’s hiding in some cave or not; we haven’t heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is — really indicates to me people don’t understand the scope of the mission.

Terror is bigger than one person. And he’s just — he’s a person who’s now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He’s the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is — as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide — if, in fact, he’s hiding at all.

So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I’m more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.

And there will be other battles in Afghanistan. There’s going to be other struggles like Shahikot, and I’m just as confident about the outcome of those future battles as I was about Shahikot, where our soldiers are performing brilliantly. We’re tough, we’re strong, they’re well-equipped. We have a good strategy. We are showing the world we know how to fight a guerrilla war with conventional means.

Q But don’t you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won’t truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became — we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we — excuse me for a minute — and if we find a training camp, we’ll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That’s one of the things — part of the new phase that’s becoming apparent to the American people is that we’re working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.

And we’ve got more work to do. See, that’s the thing the American people have got to understand, that we’ve only been at this six months. This is going to be a long struggle. I keep saying that; I don’t know whether you all believe me or not. But time will show you that it’s going to take a long time to achieve this objective. And I can assure you, I am not going to blink. And I’m not going to get tired. Because I know what is at stake. And history has called us to action, and I am going to seize this moment for the good of the world, for peace in the world and for freedom.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
You say they’re more pro-Rush than pro-Obama yet my numbers contradict that

LOL! The troops HATE Obama. Fact.

Jaurez said:
LOL! The troops HATE Obama. Fact.

Jaurez said:
LOL! The troops HATE Obama. Fact.

LMFAO (look i am a child) Jaurez hates America. Fact.

Jaurez said:
LOL! The troops HATE Obama. Fact.

Whatever happened to Obama’s the world is going to love us schitck? The Saudis are making deals with the Chinese, since we p.o.’ed them so much over Mubarik and other Middle Eastern countries; our traditional allies don’t trust us, since Obama’s word is worth nothing, and our enemies hate us even more. By the time Obama is finished with his term in office, we will be bankrupt and without allies on the world stage. Great work, Obama!

insideguy said:
Sigh, ok right wingers let me get this straight. 9-11 happened on Bush’s watch biggest attack in US history, but not Bush’s fault it was Clintons fault cause he wasnt in office long enough check?

it was bin laden’s fault, but if you’re keen on partisan politics, then one could argue that clinton said to dubya on his way out, “you might wanna look at al-qaeda some, seeya!”… furthermore, had he pulled the trigger when he literally had bin laden in his satellite crosshairs, he blinked, citing inconvenient legalities… bush was also saddled with ridiculous restrictions, pre-patriot act, put in place by clinton forbidding information sharing by various agencies… obama deserves props for pulling the trigger…

insideguy said:
Wow did President Bush ever do anything wrong in your eyes?

bush should have been impeached for allowing our borders to remain so porous after 9/11, the one charge democrats would never entertain as it would cost them latino and whiny-ass-liberal-white-guilt votes…

We accept your apology Rush for invading the wrong country based on the wrong intelligence. Does Iraq come to mind?

MASSMURDERMEDIA said:
it was bin laden’s fault, but if you’re keen on partisan politics, then one could argue that clinton said to dubya on his way out, “you might wanna look at al-qaeda some, seeya!”… furthermore, had he pulled the trigger when he literally had bin laden in his satellite crosshairs, he blinked, citing inconvenient legalities… bush was also saddled with ridiculous restrictions, pre-patriot act, put in place by clinton forbidding information sharing by various agencies… obama deserves props for pulling the trigger…

bush should have been impeached for allowing our borders to remain so porous after 9/11, the one charge democrats would never entertain as it would cost them latino and whiny-ass-liberal-white-guilt votes…

**AND, BTW, what WAS in those documents that Sandy Berger stole from the Clinton Administration papers at the National Archives? Could they have related to Osama bin Laden?????????**

Wow I kinda like your logic Massmurdermedia(but your names to long):) Seriously I agree with ya on alot of what ya said. I agree Clinton should have took him out,however I dont agree that is an excuse for bush not taking him out and basically ignoring him till 9-11. Im actually not super partisan. Im not a huge anti Iraq war guy although i wish they would have got all their ducks in a row on the WMD thing and not be made to look foolish. Im not partisan in alot of ways, I actually didnt like the comments alot of far lefties made in regards to Bush. I think his heart was in the right place but I dont think he was all that competent when it came down to running this country. What really drives me crazy is the far rights attacks on Obama, as they try to spin everything he does or says in a negative light,and make the Bush years seem like some kind of wonderful time. Bush was president during some of the most amazing boondoggles in this countries history and thats a fact. But im not gonna sit here and tell you Lyndon Johnson was a great president just cause he was a dem. He got us into the mess in Vietnam which was far more costly than this war on terror and far less justified. Im not a lefty believe it or not I just try and use common sense. Now that border comment is another story both parties left and right are at fault in that i couldnt place that blame on Bush no way.

Bershad mischaracterizes the “pissing contest” he alludes to. The fact of the matter is that sensible people are glad that Bin Laden is gone and acknowledge — as Obama did — that it was the effort of thousands of intelligence and military personnel over a period of years.

Only the wingnutariat is kvetching that Bush didn’t get enough praise, or that Obama got too much. Typical false equivalency from the soundbite-addicted media.

insideguy said:
Seriously I agree with ya on alot of what ya said.

uh, you’re not doing this right… here’s how this works… rush tells me what to think, and, oh, i dunno, rachel maddow tells you what to think… or maybe ed schultz… then we spew talking points at each other… hey, it’s not like we have all day to be sitting around thinking for ourselves!…

insideguy said:
But im not gonna sit here and tell you Lyndon Johnson was a great president just cause he was a dem.

i never vote dem… and maybe it’s the texan in me, but i have a twisted admiration for lbj… i know, i’m a sick man…

insideguy said:
I agree Clinton should have took him out,however I dont agree that is an excuse for bush not taking him out and basically ignoring him till 9-11.

Wait, so you think Bush should have gotten inaugurated and started firing at Afghanistan?

TillieGlockenspiel said:
**AND, BTW, what WAS in those documents that Sandy Berger stole from the Clinton Administration papers at the National Archives? Could they have related to Osama bin Laden?????????**

it was the world’s best egg salad recipe…

Lol very funny Mass, and you are so right on that comment. I think sometimes thats what pisses everyone off because we feel alot of people arent thinking for themselves! Both the left and the right just seem to repeat there talking points without looking into anything themselves and making up their own mind. And no Pablo I dont think he should have gotten inaugurated and started firing in Afghanistan. But maybe 3 or 4 months after? Or possibly even talking about him being a major threat to our country? Remember Bush ran on getting out of foreign countries, he had no interest in Bin laden or if he did he sure as hell didnt mention it.

DId water-boarding and other “enhanced interrogation” techniques play a significant role in acquiring the intelligence that led to bin Laden’s demise?

The corroborated timeline describing how the intel was gathered suggests otherwise.

Waterboarding is an excellent interrogation technique if your goal is:

a) a false confession

b) retribution

But if your primary objective to obtain useful intelligence, it’s going to be counterproductive.

Those who are formally trained in interrogation techniques consistently agree that the so-called “enhanced” methods employed by the CIA were totally inappropriate and tactically inane.

These techniques are commonly used by foreign extremist groups and dictatorial regimes that are trying to get prisoners to confess to crimes that the interrogators know were not committed, i.e., they are not interested in obtaining information, their goal is the confession itself.

Why are Republicans the only ones bring up water-boarding? First they want the subject left alone and now that is all they are talking about.

labman57 said:
The corroborated timeline describing how the intel was gathered suggests otherwise.

That’s not what Leon Panetta says.

borzoilady said:
“Speak softly and carry a big stick

A 9 iron is not that big.

MASSMURDERMEDIA said:
uh, you’re not doing this right… here’s how this works… rush tells me what to think, and, oh, i dunno, rachel maddow tells you what to think… or maybe ed schultz… then we spew talking points at each other… hey, it’s not like we have all day to be sitting around thinking for ourselves!…

i never vote dem… and maybe it’s the texan in me, but i have a twisted admiration for lbj… i know, i’m a sick man…

LBJ was a cast-iron sunuvabitch, and not a nice man, and maybe a little crooked by today’s standards — but he was one hell of a president.

Many on this board think that The Great Society was just a license for Satan to take souls wholesale, but I put it in the same category as the 14th Amendment, and it was Johnson’s cussedness that got ‘er done.

So, yeah, all of us naive people who imagined a country united by the destruction of a common, hated enemy? We totally should have envisioned the inevitable pissing match over who deserves the most credit and who got thanked enough.

Yes, even here on mediate your own little pissing match- the post on Sarah Palin, who didn’t happen thank Obama by name, but rather just calling him President. Same game on both sides, and the media continues to fan the flames in both direction. The facts are still coming out and I am starting to find more than ironic (funny even) that reports are that O had to pulled from the golf course (as seen in the photo) as the operation was underway -he wasn’t even aware of what was happening, he gave approval then was totally out of the loop. Panetta was completely in charge along with stealth Hillary (looks like she did take that 3AM call after all).

Edith Massey said:
I have been noticing that the past couple of days the tide has really turned with the Mediaite comments. Looks like the teabagger Republicans are outnumbered here now, finally. Guess when they started crying and whining about Obama getting Osama, people finally are seeing what completely unamerican hypocrites they really are. Way to go teabaggers! Even Mediaite doesn’t like you anymore.

I’ve been noticing the opposite. …Its the first of the month…So you piglets that feed at OUR trough just got your check. So now you idiots have bus fare to get to the library and use the puter…
in a couple days it will be back to the regular idiots here….

Yea LBJ did some good things all presidents do(well most anyway). But I dont think his great society outweighs the cluster f*ck that he and kennedy got us into in Vietnam. I think he figured this out on his own and thats why he chose not to run again, that and he was gonna get smoked in the election. I just cant consider him a good or great president based on his total body of work.

why does anybody even pay attention (well besides the older white koolaid drinkers) to this drug addict Limpballs…..i guess a holes follow a holes

mlb said:
So, yeah, all of us naive people who imagined a country united by the destruction of a common, hated enemy? We totally should have envisioned the inevitable pissing match over who deserves the most credit and who got thanked enough.

Yes, even here on mediate your own little pissing match- the post on Sarah Palin, who didn’t happen thank Obama by name, but rather just calling him President. Same game on both sides, and the media continues to fan the flames in both direction. The facts are still coming out and I am starting to find more than ironic (funny even) that reports are that O had to pulled from the golf course (as seen in the photo) as the operation was underway -he wasn’t even aware of what was happening, he gave approval then was totally out of the loop. Panetta was completely in charge along with stealth Hillary (looks like she did take that 3AM call after all).

You wanted Obama to fly the lead helicopter himself?

insideguy said:
Yea LBJ did some good things all presidents do(well most anyway). But I dont think his great society outweighs the cluster f*ck that he and kennedy got us into in Vietnam. I think he figured this out on his own and thats why he chose not to run again, that and he was gonna get smoked in the election. I just cant consider him a good or great president based on his total body of work.

No, way too flawed to be truly great — but civil rights legislation and the elements of The Great Society had proved to hard to do previously.

As Obama is finding out, stopping wars mid-stream is tougher than it looks. Not giving LBJ a pass — he could have ended the war with a stroke of his pen — but it was one hell of a mess.

insideguy said:
Yea LBJ did some good things all presidents do(well most anyway). But I dont think his great society outweighs the cluster f*ck that he and kennedy got us into in Vietnam. I think he figured this out on his own and thats why he chose not to run again, that and he was gonna get smoked in the election. I just cant consider him a good or great president based on his total body of work.

The only things I can agree with about LBJ are that he was tough as nails and more than “a little crooked.” He was a LOT crooked. IMHO, the “Great Society” has done nothing but harm, it certainly did not achieve it’s stated goals.

Edith Massey said:
The last Taliban foreign minister, Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil, offered at a secret meeting in Islamabad Oct. 15, 2001 to put bin Laden in the custody of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), to be tried for the 9/11 terror attacks on the United States, Muttawakil told IPS in an interview in Kabul last year.

Eight days after the bombing started, heh. Talk to the one eyed mullah.

President George Bush rejected as “non-negotiable” an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.
Returning to the White House after a weekend at Camp David, the president said the bombing would not stop, unless the ruling Taliban “turn [bin Laden] over, turn his cohorts over, turn any hostages they hold over.” He added, “There’s no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he’s guilty”. In Jalalabad, deputy prime minister Haji Abdul Kabir – the third most powerful figure in the ruling Taliban regime – told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US, but added: “we would be ready to hand him over to a third country”.

The offer came a day after the Taliban’s supreme leader rebuffed Bush’s “second chance” for the Islamic militia to surrender Bin Laden to the US.

Mullah Mohammed Omar said there was no move to “hand anyone over”.

Read the whole thing and don’t miss this, as Muttawakil was, ahem, attempting to hand over bin Laden, OBL was issuing new terrorist threats:

Al-Qaida warning an ‘admission of guilt’
Threats of new terrorist strikes against Britain and the US from Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida group amount to an admission of guilt for the September 11 attacks, the deputy prime minister, John Prescott, said today.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

Edith Massey said:
Muttawakil also dropped a condition that the United States provide evidence of bin Laden’s guilt in the 9/11 attacks, which had been raised in late September and reiterated by Taliban Ambassador to Pakistan Abdul Salam Zaeef on Oct. 5 – two days before the U.S. bombing of Taliban targets began.

Muttawakil, now that’s the guy to go to, he’d probably turn over his grandmother to save his butt:

The BBC confirmed that Muttawakil had surrendered, after two weeks of negotiation, in early February 2002.[1][4] Abdullah Abdullah the minister who held the same portfolio in Hamid Karzai’s Afghan Transitional Authority as Muttawakil had held under the Taliban, stated that Muttawakil should stand trial for war crimes.

My, my, look at this, Gareth Porter appears to be a Taliban apologist, now he’s after Pres. Obama. Seems to go out of his way for Mullah “there was no move to “hand anyone over” Omar. Wonder if Gareth Porter took those nice Taliban men that used to drag women into the arena and double tap them in the head in front of their children, into consideration. Do read the whole thing:

Taliban Regime Pressed bin Laden on anti-U.S. Terror
By Gareth Porter*

WASHINGTON, Feb 11, 2010 (IPS) – Evidence now available from various sources, including recently declassified U.S. State Department documents, shows that the Taliban regime led by Mullah Mohammad Omar imposed strict isolation on Osama bin Laden after 1998 to prevent him from carrying out any plots against the United States.

The evidence contradicts the claims by top officials of the Barack Obama administration that Mullah Omar was complicit in Osama bin Laden’s involvement in the al Qaeda plot to carry out the terrorist attacks in the United States on Sep. 11, 2001. It also bolsters the credibility of Taliban statements in recent months asserting that it has no interest in al Qaeda’s global jihadist aims.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=50300

Hey Rush and Hannity. A little reminder: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201105020001

Eddie0 said:
you’re a brainwashed phucking dumbazz for believing that bullsh!t, over 90% of any service hates that moronic imbecilic traitor !!! …. why would any military care for somebody that hates our country?Especially this fat turd that used a pimple on his butt to get out of serving! ..and that was probably from getting screwed up the rear when he travels to other countries for sex !

Jealousy my pluty friend will get you nowhere.

mediadoubt said:
LBJ was a cast-iron sunuvabitch, and not a nice man, and maybe a little crooked by today’s standards — but he was one hell of a president.

lbj was a pussycat… but “a little crooked by today’s standards”?… i’m not sure if you mean today’s crop of bozo’s are more ethical or if they are worse… lbj certainly was the gold standard in his day as far as backroom arm-twisting and underhanded dealings go… bill clinton could certainly hold his own against him in that department…

MASSMURDERMEDIA said:
the first quote is bogus… i notice you didn’t source it but i’ve seen it referenced at any number of partisan hack sites… as for the second quote, how about a little context from the presser?:

Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part — deep in your heart, don’t you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won’t really eliminate the threat of –

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he’s alive at all. Who knows if he’s hiding in some cave or not; we haven’t heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is — really indicates to me people don’t understand the scope of the mission.

Terror is bigger than one person. And he’s just — he’s a person who’s now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He’s the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is — as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide — if, in fact, he’s hiding at all.

So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I’m more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.

And there will be other battles in Afghanistan. There’s going to be other struggles like Shahikot, and I’m just as confident about the outcome of those future battles as I was about Shahikot, where our soldiers are performing brilliantly. We’re tough, we’re strong, they’re well-equipped. We have a good strategy. We are showing the world we know how to fight a guerrilla war with conventional means.

Q But don’t you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won’t truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became — we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we — excuse me for a minute — and if we find a training camp, we’ll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That’s one of the things — part of the new phase that’s becoming apparent to the American people is that we’re working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.

And we’ve got more work to do. See, that’s the thing the American people have got to understand, that we’ve only been at this six months. This is going to be a long struggle. I keep saying that; I don’t know whether you all believe me or not. But time will show you that it’s going to take a long time to achieve this objective. And I can assure you, I am not going to blink. And I’m not going to get tired. Because I know what is at stake. And history has called us to action, and I am going to seize this moment for the good of the world, for peace in the world and for freedom.

I appreciate the extended quote, it only serves to make my point. He took his eye off the ball and the quote is a self serving weak attempt to explain his failure to catch this terrorist.

redstate said:
I appreciate the extended quote, it only serves to make my point. He took his eye off the ball and the quote is a self serving weak attempt to explain his failure to catch this terrorist.

i appreciate your quoting my extended quote, as it serves to make my point… dubya’s detractors took their eye off the big picture and taking his quote out of context is a self serving weak attempt to explain their failure to understand what truly threatens us…

mediadoubt said:
LBJ was a cast-iron sunuvabitch, and not a nice man, and maybe a little crooked by today’s standards — but he was one hell of a president.

And he always looked so good in those stylin’ Haggar slacks with the extra room near the bunghole. – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3GT9UN7nDo&feature=related

You ain’t KIDDING after watching this video…you will want MORE than an apology!

Obama is TOAST!

The video that will END the Obama Presidency! Birthers Get Last Laugh & Demand Formal Apology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1DHZmeMXyE&feature=channel_video_title

ObamAcornLies said:
You ain’t KIDDING after watching this video…you will want MORE than an apology!

Obama is TOAST!

The video that will END the Obama Presidency! Birthers Get Last Laugh & Demand Formal Apology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1DHZmeMXyE&feature=channel_video_title

I know who you are, and you are nuttier than a Stuckey’s Pecan Log.

The drug-addicted Fat Man speaketh the Republican mind.

Back to being a dumb@ss

Honestly, do you think Rush trots out this drivel just to see how gullible his followers are, I do.

Rush, did we not have our “Oxycotin”, today? You’re rambling, You’re starting to sound like Donald “Racist” Trump. And, btw, I accept your apology, in advance. Because you are the sorriest American, i know. You should really apologize, for being born, and wasting our precious air.

Oxycotin is legal, yet your mulatto president sure had a thing for cocaine, pot, and marihuana. Gee, I guess doing drugs is ok when a black man does them.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Nachi said:
The drug-addicted Fat Man speaketh the Republican mind.

actually, he doesn’t… but they would do well to heed his advice…

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
Oxycotin is legal, yet your mulatto president sure had a thing for cocaine, pot, and marihuana. Gee, I guess doing drugs is ok when a black man does them.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

President Obama was open about his minor use of marijuana and cocaine when he was in high school, but George W Bush went so far as to get another Texas driver’s license to hide his conviction of cocaine use.

Your further remarks about the “mulatto” and “black man” is telling – you are a racist.

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
Oxycotin is legal, yet your mulatto president sure had a thing for cocaine, pot, and marihuana. Gee, I guess doing drugs is ok when a black man does them.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Oxycotin is legal and so is heroin – but only when legitimately subscribed by a physician for particular physical needs.

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
Gee, I guess doing drugs is ok when a black man does them.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

you say that like it’s a bad thing… doing drugs is ok when anybody does them…

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
Oxycotin is legal, yet your mulatto president sure had a thing for cocaine, pot, and marihuana. Gee, I guess doing drugs is ok when a black man does them.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

As well as right wing phony like you has a penchant for racist labels and total hypocrisy since libertarians are supposed to be down on drug laws

TillieGlockenspiel said:
The only things I can agree with about LBJ are that he was tough as nails and more than “a little crooked.” He was a LOT crooked. IMHO, the “Great Society” has done nothing but harm, it certainly did not achieve it’s stated goals.

Coming from someone who calls herself a coo coo clock, that is on par with your title

“President Obama was open about his minor use of marijuana and cocaine when he was in high school, but George W Bush went so far as to get another Texas driver’s license to hide his conviction of cocaine use. ”

—Oh please, you people condemn GWB no matter what he does and defend Obama no matter what he does. My best liberal friend used to be an anti-war nut, yet now he supports Obama’s war in Libya. See? When a mulatto Marxist democrat is president, everything’s just peachy. If tomorrow Obama decides to put fat people in concentration camps I’m sure you’re all gonna be saying “how nice.” Of course, I doubt he’s gonna do that since Mooshelle Obama is not winning the war against obesity, have you seen her ass? Talk about a wide load.

“As well as right wing phony like you has a penchant for racist labels and total hypocrisy since libertarians are supposed to be down on drug laws”

—Hey, you liberals started it when you called Bush a monkey and when you attacked Rush for his OxyContin issue. If you liberals can call Bush a monkey, I can call your biracial president a mulatto (both words mean the same thing). And if you can fight to legalize pot, I can fight for OxyContin.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

You mean Rush’s OxyContin abuse. Remember when he was going deaf? It is a common symptom of overuse of pain medication. I don’t know anybody that uses pain meds as prescribed, that has to send their maid with a cigar box full of cash to pick up their prescription.