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Some Conservatives Are Upset Over Fox News’ Alleged Move To The Left

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On Tuesday, POLITICO’s Keach Hagey published a story on Fox News’ “course correction” — a Roger Ailes-backed move — that has many conservatives up in arms. This “Fox moves left” theme is nothing new; last month an activist group called for the re-hiring of Glenn Beck after the network brought in Sally Kohn as a contributor.

Hagey found a contingent of people at CPAC who felt that Fox News’ perceived move to the center had lessened the enjoyment of their viewing experience. These former devotees have decided to turn instead to the Internet and Roku boxes to get their fill of conservative news and entertainment — whether it be from Glenn Beck, The Blaze, or a host of other conservative offerings. A sort of niche backlash has swelled up against the network, with many conservatives feeling they’ve been abandoned.

“I’ve gone from all Fox to no Fox, and replaced it with CNN, which I think right now is giving me a much fairer analysis of what’s going on,” John Fredericks told Hagey. “I feel they’ve lost that independent conservative mantra that had drove people like me to them. I used to feel that I got it straight, and I got an independent conservative view. Now, what I get is some wholly owned subsidiary of the RNC.”

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Hagey points out that a casual Fox News observer, “might barely notice the changes,” since the network remains critical of the Obama administration and employs stalwart conservative voices, like Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly. But the changes, however subtle, are still seen by many viewers — and former viewers — who are seeking new outlets for their news and opinion programming.

But just because there are disgruntled conservatives doesn’t mean that Fox News is doomed. Paul Levinson, a professor of media and communications studies at Fordham University and author of a forthcoming updated edition of New New Media, (as well as a contributor to Mediaite), says the strategy is a sound one.

“If Fox wants to increase its viewership, it’s a smart move to get slightly less conservative and draw in some people in the middle and slightly to the left,” he told Hagey. “If they just stuck to their staunch conservative guns, they wouldn’t go anywhere.”

Still, there exist those who see change in the network, and don’t like it. “For the older generation, like baby boomers Diana and Don Reimer, activists from the Tea Party Patriots in Pennsylvania,” Hagey writes, “Fox is still the mainstay. Just not quite the one it used to be.”

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  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    WTF, is this a joke? If Fox News moved left, that would make them right-wing, rather than their current status, ultra right-wing.

  • Anonymous

    Does Bill O’Reilly still use the changing tides to explain his belief in religion? 

  • Anonymous

    Ahhahha, I guess Hannity needs to step it up. Or perhaps they want Beck back or someone simmilar.

  • Anonymous

    Also, when will the media stop using stupid/anti-intellectual/anti-reality as synonomous for conservative? 

  • Gloves Oliver Donahue

    Fox has always had liberal voices on their shows. Colmes, Beckel, Powers, Miller, Rivera, Menendez, Harpootlian and dozens of others.

    What has always irritated me on any cable news opinion show is the practice of talking over each other. When the host or guest starts another statement while the other is finishing their answer, I turn the channel. Try talking over someone in real life. Nobody does that.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

    Pipe down, clownservatives.

    You are supposed to bray incessantly Fox is “Fair and Balanced” not the propaganda arm of the gNOp.

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    Silly, you can’t explain the tides.  No one can.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, so now conservatives hate Fox News as well. Is there anything left in this world that conservatives don’t hate? Conservatives probably even send hate letters on Valentine’s Day.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not looking for them to move to the left, I just want them to move closer to the truth.

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    When conservatives stop acting like stupid, anti-intellectual, ant-reality fools.

    Example.  We had a very mild winter here in VA with temperatures well above average.  However, we get TWO cold days, and I hear a conservative I work with say, “Global warming, my ass”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1341130851 J Tim Willis

    Probably when conservatives stop being 
    stupid/anti-intellectual/anti-reality…

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been commenting for months now that Murdoch hates losers. When Tony Blair was running for Prime Minister in Britain, Murdoch, who controls much of the print media and non-BBC television in Britain, suddenly switched from supporting the Tories (Conservatives), who were sure losers, and put all his support behind Blair, who won. I wouldn’t be surprised if he were to do the same here, and there are indications that that’s what he intends to do. It may be very difficult for rightwingers to face the reality that things don’t look very good for the Republican Tea Party. If they continue on their present course, they may lose bigtime and be out in the cold for at least the next four years. Even with unlimited spending, which eventually becomes overkill, the rightwingers seem to have already lost the support of the majority of Americans, and polling trends don’t look promising. It’s not that the Democrats deserve to win, but there is still a core of liberal, progressive politicians in that party who actually seem to know that they’re suppose to serve the 99% of us.

  • Anonymous

    MSNBC spends 3 hours a day on news reports while Fox runs 7 hours of news reports. Everything else is opinion based. MSNBC is trying to sway you! Don’t get sucked in!!

  • Anonymous

     It snowed somewhere in the world today, therefore climate change can’t be real.

  • Anonymous

    Reality and facts seem to have a liberal bias so they might be the same here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KSH52GTU7ATNOTCD52RAL3P6XA Jon

    Some conservatories want Fox News to be like MSNBC’s prime-time line-up from 5 to 11 p.m., where conservatives are only allowed on to be shouted down. Bob Beckel even being 20 percent of a show’s hosting panel offends their sensibilities, and they certainly don’t trust Shep or OReilly.

    Meanwhile, at the other side of the ideological ranch, some liberals remain outrageously outraged that MSNBC still allows Joe Scarborough to host a show on the network. Same difference on both sides — you never can be pure enough to please the True Believers.

  • Anonymous

    Where is Norbit to blame this on Media Matters? 

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    That’s the problem.  Some conservatives can’t differentiate between weather and climate, which is something they should have learned in elementary school.  

  • Gloves Oliver Donahue

    BREAKING NEWS !!

    WORLD BANK HEAD TO STEP DOWN
    HILLARY ‘WANTS IN’

    Since Hill has no banking experience, she will spend her first week working the drive-thru.

  • Anonymous

    Even Roger Ailes realizes that extreme far right politics only plays to a minority audience… It’s good political theater in the off season, but when it really counts, it’s better to be on the side that has a chance of winning. With the teabaggers promise of bringing change to DC morphing into petulant obstructionism and partisan agenda pushing, they’ve proven themselves to be the incompetent spoiled step children of the GOP that we all thought they were. Their star is tarnished and falling fast, and FOX has noticed.

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    Actually, I greatly enjoy Joe Scarborough.  I don’t always agree with him, but he offers some great insight and analysis considering his previous role as a congressman.

     I think the problem comes down to intellectualism. 

     People like Chris Matthews, Lawrence O’Donnell, Mike Barnacle, Rachel Maddow – are either highly educated or have worked in some form or fashion with the White House or the Capitol in their previous jobs.  What does Fox have?  Steve Doocey (former weatherman), Brian Kilmeade (former sports anchor), Sean Hannity (no college and no political experience), Glenn Beck (former morning zoo shock jock), Bill O’Reilly (former TV personality who hosted a TMZ like show)But O’Reilly is at least Harvard educated, I’ll give him that.

  • Anonymous

    When far right conservatives stop painting intellectuals as bad people and science as the enemy.

  • Anonymous

     spin spin spin!

  • Anonymous

    More right-wing fantasy-land, childish make-believe, BULLSHIT. I would be funny if you had an actual sense of humor.

  • Anonymous

    Hannity’s still pining for Ted Nugent to get his own Fox News show.  There wouldn’t be any dialogue, just a half hour of Uncle Ted emptying AK-47 clips into an Obama cardboard cutout.

  • Gloves Oliver Donahue

    Calm down, little man. No need to blow a gasket.

  • Anonymous

     What liberal hosts their own show on Faux news? Oh that’s right there is none. Please don’t tell me Greta’s a lib, she’s a Scientologist and her Scientologist husband worked for Palin.

  • Anonymous

    Banking experience has never been a requirement to head the World Bank.

  • Anonymous

    any truth to the news/rumor that they are pulling the plug on fbn?

  • Anonymous

    War, that’s one thing cons love. Parades and cake!

  • val smith

    Shut up gloves you tiresome POS.

  • Anonymous

    Fact is that Fox even realizes that most conservatives are bonkers. Look at Rupert Murdoch’s programming overseas. Nowhere nearly as right wing as Fox. Now they’re beginning to realize they’ve created a bunch of hate mongering psychopaths that have no clue what they’re angry about.

  • Anonymous

    If I was interested in monotone leftist/liberal/progressive/Democrat groupthink I’d watch ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS/MSNBC/CNN.

  • Anonymous

    wait till you see what the tea party does to your zero in chief and
    your food stamp party. come nov we’re going make nov 2010 look like a walk
    in the park.   

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    This “moving left” of Fox News, if it’s true, will only last until the general election.  And once Obama is re-elected, they’ll go right back to “He’s a Muslim”. ” He’s not American”. “He hates America” blah, blah, blah.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Rupert Murdock approved Faux news “liberals.” The are like the team that plays the Harlem Globetrotters or professional wrestlers… paid to be punching-bags. The have to be in-house “liberals” a real liberal will point out that Faux news is the propogada arm of the GOP.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srHpjDL6-ZM

  • Anonymous

    Comedian Lee Camp: Fox News a ‘festival of ignorance’
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srHpjDL6-ZM

  • Anonymous

    I think he’s beginning to realize that the people that watch his programming take the stuff they hear way too seriously. The purpose of Fox is to get ratings & the best way to get ratings on cable is to offer low brow entertainment (eg. professional wrestling & Jersey Shore). Difference is that the audience watching the WWE & MTV generally know that the stuff they’re watching is scripted & not meant to be taken seriously. Fix News viewers aren’t quite as perceptive.

  • Anonymous

    “Even Roger Ailes realizes that extreme far right politics only plays to a minority audience…”
    Yes, that must be why Fox News trounces CNN and MSNBC in the ratings.  Every  week.

  • Anonymous

    Right-wingers are hardwired without an actual sense of humor, you can’t help it it’s like being born gay.

  • Anonymous

    It gives me such pleasure to be the first to call Fox News a RINO.

  • Anonymous

    All those fail if it’s a gay soldier, gay pride parade, and if the cake is for a same sex wedding.

  • Anonymous

    LMAO!!!  Are you serious or is that sarcasm? ….. I “liked” your comment anyway.

    keep em coming!

  • Anonymous

    Shitballs! Foiled again! Damn you, Catfish!

  • Anonymous

    lmao….

  • Anonymous

    Look at all these rants on Fox by liberals.  You’d think they gave a hoot what Fox had on air.    Fox has always been balanced on the news side, but when Beck was added and Colmes retired from his daily Hannity stint their opinion side tilted significantly to the right.  Its appropriate you have a picture of Beckel, he and Kirsten Powers and Juan Williams and others are good examples of their fairness in comparison to other media outlets.  They still tilt right on opinion, and are still balanced on news, but with Beck gone they aren’t nearly as right as they had been.     An agenda driven reporter can always find an outlying viewer, I’m not convinced they’ve made any conscious changes, everyone who is still there is still the same person they have been – which is part of Fox’s strength.  

    Meanwhile, where’s the Mediaite story on Obama’s statement that his answer to critics he didn’t bring change to Washington is its now easier to visit gov websites?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     Who is Paul Dundes Wolfowitz?

  • Anonymous

    Fox may have its sentiments to the right of Attila the Hun, but deep down they are still solid mainstream Republicans, which means there is one thing that is paramount to them above all else: MONEY.

    If they see their advertising money starting to dwindle due to their pandering only to the extremist fringe, it doesn’t matter how many idiots swallow their “fair and balanced” lie. Advertisers like results, and not all teabaggers are bright enough to have jobs that pay well enough for them to splurge on the products of Fox advertisers. So? So, Fox needs to appeal to a broader range of people, some of whom would never watch them as they are now.

    If I were Roger Ailes, my worry would be that the brand is such damaged goods at this point, that it would take years before anyone except the most rabid of Foxsuckers would watch them on a regular basis. Still, they ARE flush with cash so far, and that can buy them some real reporting if they choose to go down that path, which is unknown territory to them at this point. Maybe, just maybe, it will even bring them the wider audience needed to attract a broader range of advertisers, and that will make it all financially worthwhile.

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    Chuck, why do conservatives dislike Shepherd Smith?  

  • Anonymous

    Yes can you imagine all those viewers who are less informed than those who read no news at all?

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11-22/news/30431182_1_fox-news-results-show-viewers

  • Anonymous

     Everyone knows gay people don’t fight in wars.

    Yes that’s sarcasm.

  • val smith

    LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=686824416 Patrick Stone

    Nov 2010 … you mean the election that resulted in the worst Congress in US History? The same guys who held a gun to the head of our economy over their obstinate agenda and said “NO” to lower taxes for millions of working Americans? Also, exactly which of these candidates do you think has a chance of beating Obama when your own party can’t even fervently support any of them? My prediction: I’m going to be rolling my eyes over inane posts such as this for at least four more years.

    I can only imagine the mental gymnastics involved in ignoring solid facts such as economic improvement, job growth, elimination of our enemies, end to nonsensical wars, much needed health care reform, investments in education, infrastructure, cleaner energy and revitalization of the working class … or worse yet recognizing all of these things as negative.

    PS – Fewer people are on food stamps now than there were under Bush. Just thought you should know.

  • Anonymous

     Because he occasionally jumps the Faux news, GOP propaganda train?

  • Anonymous

    BS. How many people running for office had or have a show on FOX “news” Channel?

  • Anonymous

    If you are a conservative, bigoted, global warming denying, closet white supremacist, Christian Taliban, anti-government, anti-science, anti-education kind of person, there is still one channel for you to watch….that being Fox news.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, something with a screen name that contains the word zombie is going to watch FOX “news” exclusively, amirite??

  • Anonymous

     Where does it differentiate between the two in the Bible, though?

  • Anonymous

     There are two reasons “Fair and Balanced” Fox News includes such lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist nitwits as williams and beckel on their commentary shows: 1. comic relief (obviously) from the serious discussions of others, and 2. to show rational people what insanity and total bs these lunatics mindlessly and endlessly spew forth.

  • Anonymous

    So after conceding my point, you went on to refute an argument I didn’t make.  Interesting.

    I never argued that the earth was flat.  That should be plenty of material for your follow-up post.  

  • Anonymous

    Not going to lie, I don’t like the Obama imagery there, but I would watch that show. Maybe replace Obama with the cast of the jersey shore and the kardashian clan.

  • Pablo

    It’s funny that all the anger here is coming from the progressives. 

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    I think it’s in between the parts where it says “you can kill your children if they’re rebellious” and the part where you should “kill anyone who commits blasphemy”

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    Yes, so MUCH anger….   Grrrrrrrr.

  • Anonymous

    what are you and your occupy buddies going to do once we take the senate and the white house come november.  oh and by the way your queen nancy is not getting the hammer back.

    my tea party will prevail and your food stamp / welfare party will perish.

    other than that have a great day.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08S4poMGvwA George Clueless Clooney

    Hey Ferdinando…the guy paying your bills, MSNBC’s Phil Griffin, doesn’t give a sh*t about not having any journalists either.

    Journalistic standards? Who needs ‘em, right?

    “I’m sorry, I don’t care about journalists…

    – MSNBC’s Phil Griffin talking about his MSNBC on air “talent”.

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly Conservative?  What kind of pot are you smoking?

  • Jay Markowitz

    When your response to an argument is to criticize and deflect while not addressing any salient points in the argument itself, you have failed. Debating 101.

    Responding to factual commentary on actual Fox News practices by nattering about MSNBC (where is MSNBC mentioned in any of the above article?) means you cannot refute the argument.

    The other typical response from dips on the right when Fox is criticized is to mention how popular it is. Great, it’s the Maroon 5 of news. Take that leftwingers!

    Whenever I wonder how an Australian and a Saudi can hold such sway over dumb, gullible Americans, I am reminded by reading comments by wingnuts.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

     Nope, urwrong. Though it was apropos to before I found Fox News.

  • Anonymous

    “A move to the left?”   Best consider from what starting point that move is being made.  Any person upset about a network with bed-wetters like Hannity and “moderates” like O’Reilly ”moving to the left” only indicate how far out there on the birther, nut-wing fringe they have become to make such a ludicrous observation.   

  • Anonymous

    Kinda how America allows the teabaggers to think that they’re relevant, right?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KSH52GTU7ATNOTCD52RAL3P6XA Jon

    Ailes has had Geraldo around for over a decade now on weekends, and Beckel is the driving force behind “The Five”.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously?  You are going to make a statement that O’Reilly is a pragmatic moderate?   A person must be walking out there on the far, far, far fringe (of reality) to make a statement like that. Wow!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, thanks for all the soft, fuzzy, caring sentiments that have come from the right in the past.  You guys are sweethearts.

  • Anonymous

    It would appear you are oblivious to every poll out there that indicates the complete opposite of that flimsy, chest-thumping theory.  But go ahead.  See you in November!

  • Anonymous

    I’m a fan of his music, unfortunately his success led him to believe that people wanted him to spew violent rhetoric to anyone who opposes his political views at shows.  Plenty of people cheer him on, but these are the same people who cheer at the notion of letting uninsured people die (while at the same time being outraged at the new health care bill’s phantom “death panels.”) 

  • Anonymous

    But, you do watch FOX “news”, right? And you think that EVERY other news outlet is part of the evil liberal media?

  • Anonymous

    It appears you’ll need to speak to your fellow conservatives about that. They are the ones, like Erick Erickson and the people cited in this article who think Fox is moving to the left. 

  • Anonymous

    Fox has always been OWNED by the Left. They were just a Trojan Horse, meant to make conservatives feel that there was one legitimate news agency, but that was just a SHAM.

    Fox must have gotten a signal from the Elite that it’s okay to now show their true colors. I have to wonder if they’ve got the “bag” that “sewed up” that they don’t have to worry any more.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    This proves my point that all this “conservative” or “liberal” media being created in the last 20 or so years is nothing but a business proposal.  It is a means to tap a audience to get revenue from advertising.  This really has nothing to do with ideology, but business.  

  • Anonymous

    Be careful what you say about Mr. Murdoch!  You do not want to get on the bad side of his beautiful, athletic Chinese wife who is looking to kick some butt!

  • Anonymous

    How many Obama admin people now working in media? How many quit media to now work for the Obama administration? Where do you think conservatives should apply, MSNBC where they’ll be fired the first time they say something the left doesn’t like? CNN where they dare not criticize Democrats but feature tough interviews of Republicans? Fox is #1 and pays the best, and it’s not a hostile work environment. Where would you apply if you weren’t far left?

  • Anonymous

    Focus, teabagger. I’ll type slow so you can understand (“conservative” logic at it’s best). How many people that are running for office of any kind work for the other networks? Now, how many work for FOX “news” or have worked for FOX “news” in the past? Damn, you fright wingers must keep the paint chip industry FAT!
    Now answer the question, Chuckles.

  • Anonymous

    Really? You are that arrogant? No wonder you are an Obama supporter. There are no significant Democrats running for office this year except Obama, and he’s busy. You can find failed past politicos at the other networks. There are very few Republicans working at the other networks because Republicans are not welcome at those networks.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMUGSPLRKQOJBS5T6I4S5H2YSE Andy-48

     It’s as if the Far Right Conservatives have turned into the Khmer Rouge.

  • Anonymous

    >> MrPorkChop: “Even Roger Ailes realizes that extreme far right politics only plays to a
    minority audience…It’s good political theater in the off season, but
    when it really counts, it’s better to be on the side that has a chance
    of winning.”

    Well, that’s not QUITE true. Given that most people agree Fox leans
    Right…and given their ratings success where they literally TROUNCE all
    of the competition…it’s easy math to put 1 and 1 together and to
    realize that BY leaning Right, Ailes came up with a winning formula —
    one that’s worked for 10 years and running. So you’re notion of them
    playing to a “minority audience” is off from the start.

    Second, as for your argument that it’s “better to be on the side that
    has a chance of winning”, if that actually held water — in other words,
    if Ailes actually believed that behind the scenes — then why DIDN’T
    Fox turn LEFT back in 2008? When Obama and the Dems DID take control of
    both the White House and Congress? If such a thing were true, why didn’t
    it happen back THEN?

    Seriously, it’s not like you suddenly saw Ailes (who has total control
    over Fox, which Murdoch himself has repeatedly noted) running around and
    yelling: “The Left won!  Big time!  Cancel Beck and Hannity!  Get me
    Olbermann and Maddow on the phone so we can make big offers to buy out
    their contracts!  Otherwise find me some other people JUST like them! 
    We need to redo our programming line-up and have more shows HEADLINED by
    talent that’s clearly Left leaning!”

    Bottom line, on a pure business level — in terms of hiring talent and
    programming — the exact OPPOSITE happened and Fox turned even MORE to
    the Right, at which point their shows — Beck being the best example —
    literally SKYROCKETED in the ratings and went through the roof.

    So, I think it’s safe to say that — again, given their ratings — Ailes
    and Fox are MORE than happy with where they are right now. After all,
    even though there have been ratings blips here and there…which is
    expected in broadcasting…all in all, it’s not as if CNN or MSNBC — in
    10 years time — has managed to make any kind of real run at them.

  • Anonymous

    I watch both and am amazed at the things the ELM  (your evil liberal media) purposely do and do not report on as well as what they miss report and/or twist to their own use. Also of interest is the lockstep uniformity of their reporting—almost as if they are reading off the same teleprompter.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMUGSPLRKQOJBS5T6I4S5H2YSE Andy-48

     You mean we can finally stop paying for the Farmers in the US? Sometimes we even pay for them to not grow crops. You are aware that the GOP forced the Dems to raise the guaranteed annual salary of a married couple who farms to $500,000 a year from $250K. Can we finally stop paying for them?

  • Anonymous

    I sure hope that there are no tea party members that are on food stamps or welfare.

  • Anonymous

     My favorite Fox moment of all time. Faux News in a nutshell…”a parade of propaganda….a festival of ignorance”

  • Anonymous

    So, you’re not going to answer the question?

    Can anyone help this poor, persecuted “conservative” here?

  • Anonymous

    0.  Like apparently what is between your ears.  None of the currently running candidates have or had a show on Fox News, unless maybe Gingrich did in the late 90′s before I started watching.  

  • Anonymous

    So, did Grifter Queen ever run for office? How about Kasich? Huckabee? Gingrich? Santorum? Do you understand the words that are being typed by my fingers?
    Man, you teabaggers are funny.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah! Like how the KurvyKouchKlan will say something like: “Some say that XX is completely against (insert Obama/liberal proposal) and us real Americans just ain’t having it” and later that day Klannity is on the teevee completely opposed to said Obama/liberal proposal.

  • Anonymous

    It was ok to call President W. Bush names, but not ok to point out the truth about obama!  What is wrong with this picture?  Fox News is fine just the way they are, screw CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS.  I would like to see more conservative cable news appear.  I just can’t believe the people are literally up obama’s ass.  I would hate to be related to them, poor kids to these left wingers.

  • Anonymous

    The only move Fox needs to make is off the air. 

  • Anonymous

    Wrong.  They have worked for Fox.  Now I’m sure you’d like to toss some semantics in there and say they didn’t have their own show, but that was not the question.  The question was “how many work or have worked for Fox.”
     
    “After his 2006 midterm election loss in Pennsylvania, former Republican Sen. Rick Santorum took a job with the Fox News Channel as a contributor, appearing regularly on the network until he departed last year to run for president.”
     
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/02/santorum-bill-oreilly-has-refused-to-put-me-on-his-program/
     
    Fox News announced Wednesday that it is suspending the contracts of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Sen. Rick Santorum.
     
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Vox-News/2011/0302/Why-Fox-News-is-suspending-Newt-Gingrich-Rick-Santorum

  • Anonymous

    I was eating breakfast one day with my granddaughter and I asked her, “what day is it next Monday?”

    She said “Its President’s Day!”  She is a smart kid.

    I asked “What does President’s Day mean?”  I was waiting something about Washington or Lincoln…etc.

    She replied, “President’s Day is when President Obama steps out of the White House, and if he sees his shadow, we have one more year of unemployment.”

    You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts from your nose.

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    The contemporary meaning for the word “Liberal,” is “Socialist.”  I do not know for sure whether or not that has more to do with business, or ideology.  However, I’d rather not find out.

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Wrong, that was not the question.  You can’t change the question just  because you recognize the answer isn’t what you wanted to hear.  Truth is truth, whether you like it or not.  The question was silly in the first place.  There are politicians and public service employees all over the media.  Being a member of the media and Democratic administrations is practically a revolving door. No reason a handful of Republicans should also get jobs after leaving government.

  • Anonymous

    Which leaves the “great silent majority” what option(s)?

  • Anonymous

    No, but I tire of your nonsense.  You don’t seem to even know what you ask, so there’s no right answer to give.

  • Anonymous

    Why is your granddaughter living with you? Where is her mother? Does she live with you too?

  • Anonymous

    And the contemporary meaning of the word “Conservative” is Fascist”. The only lable I use is when I mark my ballot.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the info as I had no idea that Rupert Murdoch was a liberal.

  • Anonymous

    “lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist nitwits”? The words of a true intellectual genius. 

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Purveyor, You have to be the smuggest prevaricator I’ve encounter on Mediaite, and if this story is true I feel very sorry and embarrassed for your granddaughter.

  • Anonymous

    Aww, Chuckles don’t give up on me! It was a simple question and you FAILED to answer it. You see, that’s why “conservatives” are so easily mocked and ridiculed. Because they don’t know nuance. The question was right in front of you but since it didn’t fit your narrow view, you couldn’t see it. Keep at it, trooper! One day, you might possibly have the capacity to begin to almost understand. Possibly. 

  • Anonymous

     I see a lot of Dems counting unhatched chickens lately.  I am an Obama voter who is smart enough to realize there’s not much a president can do about some things, including the world oil market and the ongoing Euro crisis.  If gas prices are over $4.00/gal in October, which is entirely possible given the Iran situation, or if a new Euro crisis stops a slow US economic recovery in its tracks, then the WH and likely both houses of Congress will be Repub next year. Then we will see if the Party of NO can learn from its past mistakes and find a way to govern the country for the benefit of all, or whether they will keep their promises to their 1% donors and plunge the US and likely the global economy into a depression that will make the 1930′s look like a cakewalk. 

  • Anonymous

    She’s a smart kid, only one more year of unemployment – vote for Obama Purv.

  • Anonymous

    For those who believe in God, He is one of the few things left. For the atheists, TOO BAD!

  • Anonymous

    Aren’t Liberals always making the claim they are the one’s with a sense of humor, and the Conservatives are the sour pusses?

    You walked yourselves into my IED (improvised “exposure” device)

    Touche`

  • Anonymous

    STEVOR,

    God, wasn’t exactly my implication, however, if you combine your suggestion with my allusion, well , um, er, I rather avoid a “Holy War.” but?

  • Anonymous

    MR. CAT,

    You either missed my point, or, you changed the subject, because you missed my point.

    Liberalism/Socialism is anathema to business and capitalism, ergo, is most certainly about ideology, NOT business?  Socialism is driven by whatever contemporary ideological permutation is popular , whereas Capitalism, is driven by Capitalism.

    As for the word “fascist,” that and the word “outraged” are the two most overused and misused words in the current vernacular.  Have you ever looked up the word “fascist?”

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Overused? Try “Liberalism/Socialism” and you are a perfect example of the overuse. It appears that you believe that whatever is popular or the will of a certain segment of society constitutes socialism.The first six years of the Bush era were as close to fascism as our country has ever seen with a dictatorial agenda, complete control of all three branches of government, nationalism, militarism and latent racism. You have become a victim of your own ego, but I’m not outraged..

  • Anonymous

    Fascism (fæʃɪzəm)

    - An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government.
    - The principles and organisation of the extreme right-wing nationalist movement.

    Fascist  (fəˈʃɪstɪk)

    - An exponent or supporter of Fascism or anyone with extreme right-wing, nationalistic, etc views or methods.

    You, Sir, are a fascist.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDO6LIQBI2JQ4Q5MWLWBKGKSJY bensanity

    That’s basically what has happened. The only show I watch anymore is the Five, and Beckel pretty much runs the show

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKJWASGDGAGFPMPSBIJG5MYSDI Rightalk

    Fox News! We’re Only Half Marxist!

    The problem is that it’s one thing to put on old school Democrats like Pat Caddel, it’s quite another to put up the roster of “progressives” that they have embraced. “Progressive” is another name for “Marxist”. If I wanted to see 10 seconds of a Marxist I can go anywhere, I don’t need to watch FNC for that. If Fox put on Jane Fonda as a “contributor”, they’d lose half their audience overnight. Instead they put on Fonda’s front-woman Jehmu Greene and nobody realizes it. (Look it up). What you’re seeing is a function of Marxists selling Ailes the rope they’re going to hang him with.

    The counter-argument might be that by drawing in the left, they’re exposing people to the right that they might not hear elsewhere. If we were talking about old school Democrats, that might be true. If we’re talking about drawing in Marxist lesbians, you might as well be trying to change the mind of a Nazi or a Stalinist. Imagine trying to influence a Keith Goelberman fan. Ridiculous. All they’re doing is giving Marxists that much more exposure and allowing masters of propaganda to ply their trade.

    Unlike Marxists, who are masters of messaging, and who also put other people’s money where their mouths are, Republicans can’t influence their way out of a wet paper bag and their “groups” won’t put up a dime if there isn’t a profit in it. Most of the “conservative” interest groups exist to keep their operators in Gucci shoes marching between mutual admiration society meetings where all they do is talk to themselves while hustling little old ladies in Peoria out of a portion of their SS check with “This conservative puppy will die if you don’t send us $50 by Friday” fundraising letters. So for all of the commie koolaid drinkers out there who are afraid FNC has been ruining the prospects for their delusional utopian paradise, and that hordes of FNC watching “conservatives” will be taking over, don’t worry.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_34VQ3NDNOFFUF6R7ALXY6O33S4 Cal

    Who is this “great silent majority”, purv? Certainly not conservatives, who are more like the “very loud minority”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_34VQ3NDNOFFUF6R7ALXY6O33S4 Cal

    Fox doesn’t have left-wingers or “socialists”. They have moderates who are labeled as liberals, so that the liberal side in their on-air debates can be weakened.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_34VQ3NDNOFFUF6R7ALXY6O33S4 Cal

    Because he’s honest. Conservatives hate that.

    Fox keeps him on the air so that they can say they don’t lie all the time. That they’re a real news channel because they’ve got a real journalist in Shepard Smith. Too bad they can’t point out anybody else who’s a legitimate journalist and not a pundit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_34VQ3NDNOFFUF6R7ALXY6O33S4 Cal

    It’s hard not to be arrogant when you’re here to show how inferior the conservative mind is.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_34VQ3NDNOFFUF6R7ALXY6O33S4 Cal

    Or maybe you could watch news media that’s actually liberal. But to do that, you’d have to get foreign channels, because the US news media isn’t liberal.

  • Anonymous

    You just lost the 80′s and up crowd.

  • Anonymous

    If the Friken American Electorate is that damn stupid to elect this lawn gnomes back into power,then I hope a depression is just what they get.If you don’t learn from your mistakes,then your bound to repeat them.Just like when they forgot the last Depression,the last time the repugnance controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t dropped acid for over 30 years,but I may reconsider since you seem to have found some pure SUNSHINE again,charging by the hit or full sheet.Funny how that stuff really deludes your whole world,along with the hallucinations!!!! LMAOOO!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Regardless of what Ailes does,I’d never go down in that cesspool to play!!!

  • Anonymous

    You are kidding right?

  • Anonymous

    Touche’

    You score a point in the game!

    HOWEVER, and I should have been more careful as a mere Dictionary definition does not suffice. Try Wikipedia as it focuses less on the right wing/left wing dichotomy, as the political philosophy of “fascism.” Despotism comes in various shapes and sizes…

    It appears you chose the”Oxford New World Dictionary” as you quoted it verbatim.
    (I have three dictionaries and two Thesaurus, imagine that?)

    What I do have that you lack, is formal argumentation and debate skill. As I wrote to MR. CAT: “You missed my point, or changed the subject, because you missed my point?” Ergo you focused on the definition of Fascist ,not the substance of the discussion. You may have won a temporary debate point, but, after two attempts, again, the Left loses the debate. Touche’

    Purveyor

    (Note: I am NOT a “Sir,” rather, I am an androgynous Grey Alien from the planet Nosaer. I have come to earth to observe a unique group of inhabitants that lack the ability to consistently apply reason and logic to deal with their planet’s, human made problems.)

  • Anonymous

    NO COMMENT

  • Anonymous

    “NO COMMENT” :-)

  • Anonymous

    You know its really hard to stay “fair and BALANCED” when the scales tend to tilt to the left. Perhaps its advertising money causing the tilt.

     I still watch FOX for my news, but I go to GBTV for the documentation and important commentary..  And lately,  I listen more to Rush and Glenn and sometimes Hannity. 

  • Anonymous

    TOUCHE`

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    You must be one misinformed viewer.

  • Anonymous

    cdnhawk65 wrote, in response to nilonilo: You must be one misinformed viewer.
    Reply:  You must be a Democrat.

  • Anonymous

    I think of myself as independant. I gravitate towards the side that makes the most sense to me. Right now, I’m leaning left.

  • Anonymous

    I gotta agree with the rest of the responses here: Tea Party 2010 = Scary  Tea Party 2012 = Sadly funny.

  • Anonymous

    The TEA Party was started with good intentions, but like everything else political, it went south. Of the newly elected TEA Party candidates only 22 of the 75 congressmen and senators voted against the debt limit last August. Corruption in Washington runs at a very fast pace.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_34VQ3NDNOFFUF6R7ALXY6O33S4 Cal

    Of course I’m not kidding. Conservatives are very loud, and conservatives are a minority.

  • Anonymous

    CAL,

    How old are you? What is the level of your education? What kind of books, (avocational) do you read? Do you play chess?

    Your question regarding “the great silent majority,” at first struck me as sarcastic, although erroneous humor. However, the more I considered your current comment in relation to your previous posts, I began to consider that you too are the VICTIM/result of a Socialist influenced education?

    As I have suggested in previous posts: Socialism/Lenin, at first used the worker and the Union Hall door as a pathway to locate new membership? However, Socialism and Obama, coupled with the influences of our President’s early socio-political education, both formal and informal, hence “Socialism” now attacks America at the most vulnerable point, our children and our youth. Socialism now enters the socio-political battle through the door of the school house! How “Machiavellian,” how unscrupulous, how amoral, but, apparently effective.

    To win a battle or war, one must identify the enemy and the permutations thereof. CAL, be assured that YOU and YOUR co-conspirators, have been identified.

    Both omission and pro-active tactics are common for the Socialist subversive to employ when capturing the minds of their “target(s),” so to speak. Yes, you have been and continue to be a “target,” (“useful idiot”) and your comment, if not deliberate sarcasm, demonstrates/confirms, another success story of Socialism’s methods.

    Of all the knowledge and wisdom available in the Nations libraries and the internet, you allow yourself to tag along with one of the most nefarious doctrines in human history?

    The Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_34VQ3NDNOFFUF6R7ALXY6O33S4 Cal

    There’s nothing “nefarious” about socialism, clown. You have no idea what socialism actually is. Which is why you resort to the tired old canard of pretending that socialism is communism.

  • Anonymous

    Yes indeed. My Posts are obviously the work of a “clown,” while your comments suggest to the reader you are educated, sophisticated and experienced in the ways of the scholar, as well as that of a man, with hands on experience, even the way of the warrior!  Indeed, you are the essential, “man of world.”  Ouch!  Speak again oh wise one?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3K2N7FZSXc

    The above link, should provide you historical insight regarding “the great silent majority.”

    ‘”There’s nothing nefarious about socialism?”  I bet you’ve got a “Che Guevara T-shirt” with that printed on the back?

    Laugh out loud!

  • Anonymous

    You poor uniformed b*stard.  You dwell in the darkness.

  • Anonymous

    It read like a bad joke from that Fox show Redline, what was that attempt at comedy they have at night, but only D-List celebs go on for the check?  RedOne, I don’t recall.  It was just bad. Like the joke – wish it was funnier; probably would go over well at CPAC.

  • Anonymous

    Actually – money has been the problem since Reagan deregulated “news” and allowed it to masquarde as “entertainment” – hence Fokkks “opinion newz” format where the news is no where to be found and Opinions – or Republicorp Propaganda – runs wild and pretends its “news” when it wants to (i.e., we’re #1 Cable Newz! – LOL).  It’s pure and simple unchecked propaganda and lies for the GOP and their Corporate Citizenship interests.

  • Anonymous

    A Palinista from Glennbeckistan’s nether regions.

  • Anonymous

    When the Jack-boot fits, you wear it.  So called “Conservatives” of today have taken in the KKK and every extremist hate group to do it’s bidding for the Corporate Citizen.  The Conservatives constituents are just too dumb to know it – and that is very unfortunate for America and Democracy.  Liberalism is not Socialism – that is an Ailes/Lunt misnomer to misdirect and mislead the easiliy misled sheep of the right-wing blind and uneducated faith.  Just like Goebbles – give them a “boogyman” to frighten them and the  uneducated and unknowing as swayed by the Ministry of Lies will call opposing views (facts, science, history, etc.) the devil.  As GOP sheep, they will not question for they live in darkness and doubt and have suplanted “blind faith” as an equal trait to education and knowledge”.  Which of course is wrong and how the Germans were misled only 80 years ago.  Rove plays the Goebbels playbook.  The sheep just don’t know it.

  • Anonymous

    Just because I may be “smug,” doesn’t mean I am wrong, regarding the knowledge and wisdom I hopefully try to impart on you, and others.

    I have mentioned before, there is a distinct difference between an opinion and a conclusion.  I draw conclusions based on observation, history, reason and logic.  Whereas the Liberal-Socialist needs none of those criteria to form an opinion, as such is, most often, purely arbitrary in nature.  Rather, you emote, you feel a need to impose your lifestyle on others.  I find that “smug!”  

    Curiously, the Leftist has become the very monster it once pursued.  The Liberal- Left was traditionally fearful of overt religiosity, imposing morality on public discourse and policy.  Now, the Left, has become possessed of a “Police State.”  Cigarettes, food, helmet laws, seat belts, reducing the alcohol percentage to prove DUI, etc.

    Oh, did I forget to mention the Left’s desire to emasculate or eliminate the 2nd amendment?

    Conversely, a “Police State,” can pick and choose what it polices.  Our Attorney General Holder is very adroit at policy aversion.

    “Beware when pursuing the monster…”

  • Anonymous

    NO COMMENT

  • Anonymous

    Wasn’t James Backus the “MIllionaire” on Gilligan’s Island?

    Anyway, I do not understand you colloquialisms, “Dude.”  Perhaps, you might clarify what you wrote in a more coherent and exoteric manner?

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    You forgot to mention the classic phrase: “capitalist running dog, lackey, pig!” (That’s still big in North Korea and was in old North Vietnam. In fact, Ho Chi Minh really liked that phrase)

    When you guys fulminate that peculiar brand of leftist vernacular, which hand do you subsequently raise, in a clenched fist?

    My fellow KKK and neo-NAZI members are over here at the Library of Congress, and we have a bet going. I say its your right arm and fist? Ouch!

    If you people weren’t so dangerous, you’d be a cartoon.

    Purveyor

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    Money has been a problem since the time of Gutenberg. This is nothing new.

  • http://twitter.com/justoneblackman Black Man

    So basically you want to only get your “news” from something that only serves to reinforce your beliefs, rather than challenge them which may actually result in your learning something,. 

  • Anonymous

    As a Republic, based on Capitalism/ Free Enterprise, we approve or disprove a product, for that is what Fox News is-a product.  By choosing to avail ourselves of their sponsors, and the level we are viewing such by network ratings, we indicate what pleases their audience, and thus their placing in the network hierarchy.

    If they wish to remain at their current level, they are obliged to consider we the audience, and our preferences.

  • armand1

    Mediaite is saying that Fox is fair and Balanced?

  • General Kota

    I have not notice this so called left shift in fox news so what is the point of this story? Any ideas friends?

  • Anonymous

    That comment opens up the proverbial “can-o-worms!

    Why has “the main stream media” disregarded ratings for ideology?

    Broadcasters from behind “the Iron Curtain” did not concern themselves with such either…

    My compliments!

  • Anonymous

    1. They secretly agree, yet pretend to include the unwashed masses as a token, to achieve their goals.
    2. There is an unspoken agreement that “you scratch mine, and I’ll scratch yours.”
    3.Their unspoken agreement that they’ll end up “top-o-heap,” eventually.
    4.Self preservation, on some level.

  • Anonymous

    At least the liberals on this site have no sense of humor, Purveyor.
    They take themselves too seriously, unwarranted I might add.

    Good grief, they can’t even recognize a joke when presented to them.
    How do you expect them to deal with the real world if they can’t recognize
    a comedic story? LOL

  • Anonymous

    G.K., the only “shift” that I could ascertain was the addition of Sally Kohn…a decided liberal left wingnut.

    A very bad error on Foxes part, or she serves to expose the extreme left wing.

  • Anonymous

    I just got around to reading your post.  You have a nice writing style and sense of humor to go with it.  Well done.

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Armand1, the question is: “Would you believe them if they claimed it?”
    There is so much disinformation out there, we as citizens must
     dig deeper into the aspects of expressed opinions, no?

    This is not an era where we can take at face value, from this source
    nor any other, the veracity of their statement.

    As an enlightened society, Internet tools at our disposal, we are obligated to verify their sources.

    This is no different than a choice of doctor or dentist, “Trust but verify”, I believe is the quote.

  • General Kota

    That is what I thought I guess they are fair and balanced LOL!

  • Jeanna Houghton

    Ahh the lonely independent, gravitates to what is popular or the direction the wind blows….surely let us not stand on principle, that’s too damn mature thing to do.

  • Anonymous

    “Fair and Balanced”,is more than you receive on alternative media outlets, Kota.

  • General Kota

    I notice that that is why I like watching fox. They have a mix of left right and center know one else has that.

  • Anonymous

    When Glenn was at CNN, there was some…other than that, you are correct.

  • Anonymous

    I would rather get the news from them than a communist darkie ahole like obama. If you are black as your post suggests, you sorry ass blacks should return to africa, your good ole roots. Your race destroys every thing it comes in contact with, so don’t even in your stupidest, craziest moment think you are capable of suggesting what white people should watch. We are at least capable of learning. We are smart enough not to vote en masse for a thug just because he is of the same race.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002709769365 Kevin L Tober

    I would LOVE a 5 to 11 lineup of only Conservatives!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002709769365 Kevin L Tober

    Actually Shepard Smith & Geraldo Rivera are Liberals, Bill O’Reilly is a moderate Republican and so is Mike Huckabee!! The Only true Conservative left on Fox News is Sean Hannity

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