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The O’Reilly Factor Ambushes NPR CEO Vivian Schiller

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Apparently determined to wring every last ounce of story from the Juan Williams firing, the O’Reilly Factor sent out its inimitable Jesse Watters-lead ambush team to track down NPR CEO Vivian Schiller. Presumably this was the sort of thing Jon Stewart was warning against when he noted that NPR had showed up at a knife fight with a tote bag (or a sling bag made out of recycled plastic bottles, according to this week’s list of fundraising thank-you gifts).

So Schiller got ambushed on the way to work the other day. “Ambush” interviewing is sort of the television equivalent of tagging blog posts with the ever-SEO friendly ‘Lindsay Lohan topless’ in so far as it is an cheap and easy way to score eyes regardless of the payoff. The payoff in last night’s ambush was pretty slim, mostly because Schiller actually stopped and talked to Watters civilly and then when he followed her to her office door essentially told him to behave himself before reiterating that she’d apologized for the glib “psychiatrist” statement. Clip below. The Jesse Helms quote Watters is referring to is a Nina Totenberg remark from 1995.

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  • Arkansas Steve

    Glynnis, maybe you could get a job at NPR. They have an opening.

  • TfT

    Shiller got caught in another lie last night — when she called it a lie that an NPR individual wished death on Christians and death on Jesse Helms and his grandchildren. That clip is pretty much every where.

    The NPR BOD better step up to the plate and fire her. She is clearly not up to the job. Slandering Juan on air, then lying openly about NPR.

  • NORBIT

    LOL!

    NPR Fires Juan Williams for having Feelings, and Glynnis tries to portray the head commandant as a victim!

    NPR – the GIFT that keeps on giving!!!!

    LOL!!

  • Big Eddie

    She should ask for a better parking place .

  • writer

    Fortunately, she was able to hide behind a rock until a medic arrived.

  • Big Eddie

    Is that a Soros Rules tote bag she’s carrying ?

  • JoeRemi

    Mediaite has the biggest bunch of basement-dwelling hack asshole commentors I’ve ever seen. Almost every post is some variation on bugging the author for not being a dumbass Tea Party nutjob. Nice work, neanderthals.

  • VRWC Destruction Machine

    “So Schiller got ambushed on the way to work the other day. “Ambush” interviewing is sort of the television equivalent of tagging blog posts with the ever-SEO friendly ‘Lindsay Lohan topless’ in so far as it is an cheap and easy way to score eyes regardless of the payoff.”

    Glynnis, you’re either too young or too old and senile to remember 60 Minutes was the pioneer in ambush journalism.

    Schiller was in denial when confronted with the facts.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Arkansas Steve said:
    Glynnis, maybe you could get a job at NPR. They have an opening.

    A black male was required. They already found him.

  • tatboy

    Nina Totenberg wished for God to give Helms AND his grandchildren AIDS. Stay classy.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Glynnis: “the O’Reilly Factor sent out its inimitable Jesse Watters-lead ambush team to track down NPR CEO Vivian Schiller.”

    Big deal. After what she pulled, she needs a good old fashioned ass kicking, not an ambush. She’s not a victim here, she’s a scoundrel,. a puppet, and contrary to what NPR puts out, represents the intolerant left. Libs, how does it feel to know that Fox allows diversity of opinion, while NPR does not? Kinda throws a wrench in the works, eh?

  • notsofast

    I love what the NPR Ombudsman had to say about this.

    “NPR’s values emphasizing fact-based, objective journalism versus the tendency in some parts of the news media, notably Fox News, to promote only one side of the ideological spectrum.”

    You dbag; if FOX only allowed one side of the ideological spectrum, why did they have Williams on in the first place??

    Why do they have Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rev. Wright, Bob Beckel,Susan Estrich, etc. on?

    Typical lying libs.

  • Kird

    JoeRemi said:
    Mediaite has the biggest bunch of basement-dwelling hack asshole commentors I’ve ever seen. Almost every post is some variation on bugging the author for not being a dumbass Tea Party nutjob. Nice work, neanderthals.

    nah, I’ll bug the author for writing that billy is wringing every last once of the firing story when this web site does the very same.

  • SpineCrusher

    Time to give a nice donatation to NPR!!

    It’s about time the got rid of him, all I can say is good riddance! He has no journalistic integrity and he finally got called out on it and his contract terminated for going too far. That’s why he’s so upset, people gave him a little room because of the standards of NPR. Now that they’ve ousted him, he’s stuck on FAUX for life!! HAHAHA!!! He’ll get rich, but his legacy is shot to hell! HAHAHA!!

  • SpineCrusher

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Glynnis: “the O’Reilly Factor sent out its inimitable Jesse Watters-lead ambush team to track down NPR CEO Vivian Schiller.” Big deal. After what she pulled, she needs a good old fashioned ass kicking, not an ambush. She’s not a victim here, she’s a scoundrel,. a puppet, and contrary to what NPR puts out, represents the intolerant left. Libs, how does it feel to know that Fox allows diversity of opinion, while NPR does not? Kinda throws a wrench in the works, eh?

    What if Bill O had said, “I’m not a big, but whenever I go to a basketball game I get really nervous when I have to sit by black people in full gangsta clothing”

    You morons consider that dribble news? Seriously? Don’t you get enough of that garbage at your racist cousins house when you visit for Busch lights and macaroni and cheese?

    Why do you think the American public REALLY needs to hear someones bigoted opinion? Do you think it helps people get OVER their fear of Muslims? Do you think it’s a good thing to be afraid of Muslims?

    How does it help you in your daily life to fear Muslims? Please let us all know how healthy that is for you?

  • notsofast

    SpineCrusher said:
    Time to give a nice donatation to NPR!!

    Good- your welfare check must have come in.

  • Seeing November From My Window

    Big Eddie says:
    Is that a Soros Rules tote bag she’s carrying ?

    Big Eddie, you’re on fire today! Thanks for the laughs!

  • SpineCrusher

    notsofast said:
    Good- your welfare check must have come in.

    HAHAHAHA!!! The same old comebacks, the same pathetic old man!!! Go eat a dick you fucking cretin!

  • Kird

    SpineCrusher said:
    HAHAHAHA!!! The same old comebacks, the same pathetic old man!!! Go eat a dick you fucking cretin!

    dicks for lunch, yay!

  • notsofast

    SpineCrusher said:
    Go eat a dick you fucking cretin!

    You first, you pathetic lib POS!

    I heard they caught you drinking on the job again at the Sperm Bank.

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    She didn’t follow the rules of screaming “ANDREA MACKRIS” and “FALAFEL” repeatedly when cornered by DildO’Reilly’s thugs….

  • SpineCrusher

    notsofast said:
    You first, you pathetic lib POS! I heard they caught you drinking on the job again at the Sperm Bank.

    That was your wife, had my cock shoved so far down her throat she couldn’t breath.

    Don’t be jealous…I know the pills don’t even work for your pathetic little micro-penis anymore.

  • Kird

    SpineCrusher said:
    That was your wife, had my cock shoved so far down her throat she couldn’t breath.

    Don’t be jealous…I know the pills don’t even work for your pathetic little micro-penis anymore.

    damn, what a great debate!

  • SpineCrusher

    Kird said:
    damn, what a great debate!

    This asshat deserves it. I prefer an intelligent discussion, but all this troll ever does is talk trash. Figured it was time for them to taste some of their own medicine.

  • CosmosDan

    It’s funny how old comments by GOP candidates aren’t relevant but an old comment by Totenburg gets repeated endlessly. Whatever keeps the controversy going I guess.

    So the guy from the post is a pinhead for suggesting they give Juan a choice? Seems like a viable alternative to me.

    They actually begin to discuss the more important issue that ORielly calls the Muslim problem but they miss a fairly large relevant point. Both ORielly and Williams seem to assume that Muslims in the world should just stand up against terrorism and help us because obviously we are the good guys. A little over simplified isn’t it?

    How do we convince and demonstrate to moderate Muslims that we are good guys while we are still occupying two nations. While we are bombing and killing civilians in a 3rd? Is it hard to believe that many Muslims may not see us as the good guys?
    After that maybe we should have an open adult conversation about anti Muslim sentiment in this country and the danger it represents.
    best line yesterday? Aasif Mandvi of the daily show cracking jokes about how much fun it is to scare people on planes, says,
    ““If they’re not going to make a distinction between Muslims and violent extremists then why should I take the time to distinguish between decent fearful white people, and racists?”

  • SpineCrusher

    Juan is so upset that he’s lost his integrity, it puts a huge smile on my face.

    As an NPR listener for 15+ years, to hear him finally slam that last nail in his own coffin, by making those comments (remember his contract was terminated due to a pattern of him making these ridiculous comments – he breeched his contract…he didn’t have to sign that contract. Nobody at NPR forced him to have integrity and standards, he agreed to them), filled my heart with glee!!

  • CosmosDan

    Kird said:
    damn, what a great debate!

    LOL!! That ‘s what I thought. notsofast has a book of insults he often consults. eventually they start to repeat themselves.

  • CosmosDan

    SpineCrusher said:
    This asshat deserves it. I prefer an intelligent discussion, but all this troll ever does is talk trash. Figured it was time for them to taste some of their own medicine.

    And you didn’t even have a book of insults to consult,…did you?

  • TruthLovinFreedomLover

    notsofast – the guy with some serious hair envy said:
    You first, you pathetic lib POS! I heard they caught you drinking on the job again at the Sperm Bank.

    Chuplan a/k/a notsofast shows once again how civil and adult sellers of tainted children’s toys can be.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    SpineCrusher said:
    What if Bill O had said, “I’m not a big, but whenever I go to a basketball game I get really nervous when I have to sit by black people in full gangsta clothing”

    Put it in context. Williams admitted feeling nervous, while trying to explain that it’s an irrational fear that most people experience. If O’Reilly had been mugged and robbed and his wife killed by black gangsters, I would also expect apprehension from him. But you guys don’t want to discuss any of this, no, you never do. You’d rather sit there behind the safety of your keyboard and call people names, like the good little puppet you are. What a chump.

  • SpineCrusher

    CosmosDan said:
    And you didn’t even have a book of insults to consult,…did you?

    off the top of my head, I’m a musician so we’re pretty good at improvisation.

    I have to admin though, it didn’t feel good to stoop to his level, but it needed to be done.

  • Seeing November From My Window

    SpineCrusher says:
    Juan is so upset that he’s lost his integrity, it puts a huge smile on my face.

    Juan clearly came out on top and NPR lost what little credibility they had left. Nice try though!

  • SpineCrusher

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Put it in context. Williams admitted feeling nervous, while trying to explain that it’s an irrational fear that most people experience. If O’Reilly had been mugged and robbed and his wife killed by black gangsters, I would also expect apprehension from him. But you guys don’t want to discuss any of this, no, you never do. You’d rather sit there behind the safety of your keyboard and call people names, like the good little puppet you are. What a chump.

    I’d love to discuss.

    Williams said he gets “worried” and “nervous” when he seesing people in “full muslim garb” getting on an airplane, yet he’s never been attacked by a Muslim. So your arguement about O’Reilly feeling apprehension is a strawman.

    You know and I know, that what he stated was an irrational fear. NPR’s response should not have been redacted. These ARE exactly the types of issues that you discuss with your psychiatrist. Why do you have an irrational fear Juan? You’ve never been attacked by Muslims? The terrorists from 9/11 weren’t wearing “full Muslim garb” when they boarded the planes, so why does someone wearing their customary cultural attire make you nervous?

    That’s what Juan needs help with and any other American who feels the same way. Irrational fears lead to overreations in public, which can have severe consequences. What happens when the next person who felt nervous around Muslims gets on a plane with a Muslim? Are you saying that he’s now justified in telling that person that they make them nervous and worried? Should they follow up with asking them if they’re a terrorist or telling them to get off the plane?

    It seems Bill O has stated that “we all know the diferrence between good and bad Muslims”, but really? Juan’s statement sure didn’t seem to back that up at all? He was just shooting from the hip and saying that ANY Muslim dressed in “full Muslim garb” on a plane with him feels like a threat. So what’s the next step, do you suggest we no longer allow Muslims on planes? Should we have segregated planes?

    Please, how do you resolve this dilemna?

    But don’t complain about me calling someone names as you call me a name…you lose any credibilty you might have had with that hypocrisy.

    Also, I have no problems with honesty. We are ALL bigots from time to time, but I’m not going to go on national TV and make a fucking ass out of myself just to cowtow to my corporate masters.

  • SpineCrusher

    Seeing November From My Window said:
    SpineCrusher says:Juan is so upset that he’s lost his integrity, it puts a huge smile on my face. Juan clearly came out on top and NPR lost what little credibility they had left. Nice try though!

    Juan got more money, true, but he ruined his credibility in the industry.

    I don’t think you understand…there are very few analysts on Fox that are respected in journalism, and Juan is not one of them….he is now, officially, just another pundit.

    So if money is what’s most important to you, then yes he made out like a bandit ($2million/3 year contract). If you’re talking about his legacy…he screwed the pooch on that one.

  • lane

    so, an ambush is interviewing a person on the street? I’d like to see reporters working more like this, and less regurgitating from others’ reporting. I thought it was called journalism to ask questions…

  • SpineCrusher

    Seeing November From My Window said:
    SpineCrusher says:Juan is so upset that he’s lost his integrity, it puts a huge smile on my face. Juan clearly came out on top and NPR lost what little credibility they had left. Nice try though!

    and little credibility, they are one of the FEW news sources that are still credible, that’s why they got rid of Juan. What did you not understand about the chain of events? They got rid of him to stay credible!

    and 98% of NPRs money comes from it’s listeners, they are now seeing donations come in like crazy!!

    They only people calling up and complaining are neither listeners or people who contribute to their bottom line. They have to explain time and time to these wing-nut callers “WE ARE NOT FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT! WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!”

    Once again, ditto-heads towing a talking point that is complete bullshit! Do some fucking research people!

  • SpineCrusher

    lane said:
    so, an ambush is interviewing a person on the street? I’d like to see reporters working more like this, and less regurgitating from others’ reporting. I thought it was called journalism to ask questions…

    Journalism requires RESEARCH and INVESTIGATION not just asking questions.

    WTF is it with you people?

  • writer

    NPR can hire and fire whomever they want. And all Muslims certainly aren’t terrorists. But after 9/11, saying you get ‘nervous’ if you see a young man who appears middle eastern getting on a plane, I think it’s just a human reaction, not an evil sign of bigotry. I’ve used the analogy of people seeing a fin while swimming in the ocean. Most people have never been attacked by a shark. And most sharks aren’t maneaters. But people still get nervous. It isn’t evil or bigoted if the thought at least crosses your mind that you might be in danger. If the far left believes such normal human reactions are something that should be quashed, fine. But most people aren’t able to do it.

  • ksecus

    So the giant mainstream media called fox ambushes the tiny NPR , putting their jackboot across the neck of the little radio network. How manly of the bully.

    Maybe next time fox can go kill a puppy .

  • SpineCrusher

    writer said:
    NPR can hire and fire whomever they want. And all Muslims certainly aren’t terrorists. But after 9/11, saying you get ‘nervous’ if you see a young man who appears middle eastern getting on a plane, I think it’s just a human reaction, not an evil sign of bigotry. I’ve used the analogy of people seeing a fin while swimming in the ocean. Most people have never been attacked by a shark. And most sharks aren’t maneaters. But people still get nervous. It isn’t evil or bigoted if the thought at least crosses your mind that you might be in danger. If the far left believes such normal human reactions are something that should be quashed, fine. But most people aren’t able to do it.

    Last time I checked sharks lived in the ocean, and don’t pay money to fly on planes.

    Another disingenous arguement from the same disingenous poster.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Treacher/542957672 Jim Treacher

    Apparently determined to wring every last ounce of story from the Juan Williams firing

    Heh. Good thing you didn’t fall for it.

  • writer

    Spine Crusher, whether animals or people, the point was that sometimes people can’t help but feel nervous, whether it’s rational or not. It’s not evil or bigoted, just human. Too bad you can’t make the connection.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    NPR can hire and fire whomever they want. And all Muslims certainly aren’t terrorists. But after 9/11, saying you get ‘nervous’ if you see a young man who appears middle eastern getting on a plane, I think it’s just a human reaction, not an evil sign of bigotry. I’ve used the analogy of people seeing a fin while swimming in the ocean. Most people have never been attacked by a shark. And most sharks aren’t maneaters. But people still get nervous. It isn’t evil or bigoted if the thought at least crosses your mind that you might be in danger. If the far left believes such normal human reactions are something that should be quashed, fine. But most people aren’t able to do it.

    I agree with you but I think it’s responsible to accept that it’s understandable, normal,, and irrational. If you’re going to have that conversation then it’s important to do more than just imply that it’s okay to fear Muslims, because everybody does. It’s important to take the next few steps and discuss the impact of that irrational fear, how American Muslims are affected etc. I think all parties Fox, NPR, and CAIR, missed the important conversation.
    Fox/ORielly is beginning to do that now but so far in a one sided presentation.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Spine Crusher, whether animals or people, the point was that sometimes people can’t help but feel nervous, whether it’s rational or not. It’s not evil or bigoted, just human. Too bad you can’t make the connection.

    Do you then see the relevance of Aasif Mandvi’s Daily Show joke.

  • writer

    Sure, Cosmos. If I see a fin in the water, I’ll be glad to ponder it rationally. After I’m standing on the beach. But I don’t catch the Daily show that often. What was the joke?

  • timzank

    SpineCrusher said:
    As an NPR listener for 15+ years,

    That explains a lot, doesn’t it? heh….

  • timzank

    writer said:
    Spine Crusher, whether animals or people, the point was that sometimes people can’t help but feel nervous, whether it’s rational or not. It’s not evil or bigoted, just human. Too bad you can’t make the connection.

    common sense will not register with guys writer. It’s ALWAYS emotional, like little girls, they are.

  • timzank

    SpineCrusher said:
    Journalism requires RESEARCH and INVESTIGATION not just asking questions. WTF is it with you people?

    Did you ever see a Mike Wallace 60 minutes ambush? He makes Jesse Watters look positively tame.

  • Kird

    writer said:
    Spine Crusher, whether animals or people, the point was that sometimes people can’t help but feel nervous, whether it’s rational or not. It’s not evil or bigoted, just human. Too bad you can’t make the connection.

    maybe you should have used a dick metaphor instead.

  • writer

    There’s a name for people who have ice water in the veins and never get nervous about anything, no matter what. I think they’re referred to as psychopaths.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    ““If they’re not going to make a distinction between Muslims and violent extremists then why should I take the time to distinguish between decent fearful white people, and racists?”

    He was joking about how easy it is to scare people on a plane just by acting slightly shifty. Jon said didn’t he think that was making things worse rather than building trust. His response was

    ““If they’re not going to make a distinction between Muslims and violent extremists then why should I take the time to distinguish between decent fearful white people, and racists?”

    As jokes go it’s pretty powerful. There’s an American Muslim on the Rally for Sanity bus who said, he’s been here for over 40 years. He doesn’t feel he should have to prove his loyalty day in and day out.

    Human communication and understanding requires a two way effort. You see posters here all the time claiming moderate Muslims need to stand up and speak out against terrorism, more than they do, which is a fair statement, but are we also willing to hear their thoughts and feelings on our actions and seriously consider them?

  • Nahu Tuk

    Arkansas Steve said:
    Glynnis, maybe you could get a job at NPR. They have an opening.

    Did their janitor quit?

  • Nahu Tuk

    lane said:
    I thought it was called journalism to ask questions…

    Only if the tough ones are asked of liberals.

  • writer

    Again, Cosmos, I don’t disagree. But I don’t think human nature has evolved to the point of where if someone sees a guy resembling bin Laden getting on a plane, they’re not going to have any thoughts about it whatsoever. If the far left says they can do it, more power to them. But I find it hard to believe.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    SpineCrusher said:
    Williams said he gets “worried” and “nervous” when he seesing people in “full muslim garb” getting on an airplane, yet he’s never been attacked by a Muslim. So your arguement about O’Reilly feeling apprehension is a strawman.

    Not in the least. It was reported last night on Fox News that over forty thousand innocent civilians have been killed worldwide since 9/11by muslim extremists. Call them whatever you like, they are muslims, and they don’t wear signs distinguishing them as extremists or moderates. You’ll find no comparisons to any other religion in modern times. I don’t know of anyone, personally, who has been killed by muslim terrorists, but I do know that most terrorists are muslims. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that is just stupid.

  • Dave Richards

    JoeRemi said:
    Mediaite has the biggest bunch of basement-dwelling hack asshole commentors I’ve ever seen. Almost every post is some variation on bugging the author for not being a dumbass Tea Party nutjob. Nice work, neanderthals.

    Awwww!!!! Have your widdle feelings been hurt? Poor baby.

  • http://Race4Congress.com Magister

    Where’s the pics of Lindsay Lohan? Are they new?
    Otherwise, thanks for the clip.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joshua-Taj-Bozeman/661000669 Joshua Taj Bozeman

    I love the people here commenting that Juan’s comments are akin to saying that he feels nervous when someone is dressed like a gang member. Well, 1) I think it’d be reasonable to fear someone dressed as a gang member. Just as I’d probably be nervous if in a room in the deep south if I were black and the 3 burly gentlemen with me were white guys missing teeth wearing shirts covered with the confederate flag! 2) There’s no good comparison there. A plane full of nicely dressed black men (or white men or asian men or hispanic men) have never taken over planes and driven them into buildings, killing thousands…muslims, on the other hand, are THE ONLY ones in US history to ever do such a thing.

    So, gee, call me silly for being a bit nervous.

    Also, as WIlliams pointed out, the times square bomber noted that this is all just the start of a neverending war with the US and muslims. Key word- muslims. Also…what group has committed over 14, 000 acts of terrorism around the globe in the past 10 years? You got it– muslims! So, Juan is merely going with history. Please, do try to name the thousands of attacks in the past decade carried out by white men or black men or asian guys, and THEN you might have a case with your screams of bigotry. Until then, get real.

  • felixw

    Maybe the Left wouldn’t be so critical of Fox if they followed accepted leftwing tactics, such as hacking email accounts, renting the home next door and spying on the household, snooping on the kids in the family, etc.

  • notsofast

    SpineCrusher said:
    SpineCrusher says:
    October 26, 2010 at 12:21 pm SpineCrusher(Quote)

    Resorting to “mom” jokes! LMAO

    Typical childish lib POS!

    You got nothing.

  • mully

    lol

    Fox News talking ethics.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    “Apparently determined to wring every last ounce of story from the Juan Williams firing”

    This from a guy who is a broken record when it comes to O’Donnell, Fox, Angle or just about any popular target of the left.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    “NPR’s values emphasizing fact-based, objective journalism versus the tendency in some parts of the news media, notably Fox News, to promote only one side of the ideological spectrum.””

    Right, which is why the network is totally dominated by far left Democrats/Liberals, some of whom claim to “work for Barack Obama”. Has anyone else noticed that left wingers think they’re opinions are objective by virtue of the opinions coming from them?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    *their

  • notsofast

    TruthLovinFreedomLover said:
    TruthLovinFreedomLover says:
    October 26, 2010 at 12:38 pm TruthLovinFreedomLover(Quote)

    You are a 1st. class loser!

    LOL

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Again, Cosmos, I don’t disagree. But I don’t think human nature has evolved to the point of where if someone sees a guy resembling bin Laden getting on a plane, they’re not going to have any thoughts about it whatsoever. If the far left says they can do it, more power to them. But I find it hard to believe.

    I agree. I don’t think it’s ridiculous or stupid to have those feelings. It’s just part of human nature. The important thing is to recognize them and decide what to do with them Maybe we can also accept certain feelings from Muslims as well without condemnation.

  • CosmosDan

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Not in the least. It was reported last night on Fox News that over forty thousand innocent civilians have been killed worldwide since 9/11by muslim extremists. Call them whatever you like, they are muslims, and they don’t wear signs distinguishing them as extremists or moderates. You’ll find no comparisons to any other religion in modern times. I don’t know of anyone, personally, who has been killed by muslim terrorists, but I do know that most terrorists are muslims. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that is just stupid.

    How many would you say we’ve killed since 9/11?

  • http://none pyrope

    CosmosDan said:
    How many would you say we’ve killed since 9/11?

    Not enough. Osama bin Laden is still on this side of the dirt.

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