Some things are so obvious even libs have to be outraged.

Anderson Cooper Nails Rep. Alan Grayson

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I think the only thing Anderson Cooper proves is how irrelevant and lame the mainstream media has become, particularly CNN. Grayson is trying to win an election. Every single political ad uses a little hyperbole. Cooper’s just trying to prove how like-Fox he is by “nailing” Grayson.

Here’s the bottom line of the snippet he used in the ad anyway: Webster isn’t saying there’s anything wrong with “she should submit to me.” He’s saying that’s not the appropriate answer for this particular question he’s asking. My impression from what little of the presentation we’re shown is that maybe “she should submit to me” was from a different section altogether, not something Webster disapproves of.

Grayson is the one congressman besides Ron Paul with the stones to take on the Fed. He’s the single congressman on the panel investigating the bailout that was able to nail the bankers and administration officials on their BS. He’s exactly the kind of politician that Washington needs, instead of all these pathetic corporate lackeys we’ve got now on both sides.

Go GRAYSON!

Congrats, AC, remembers what it is to be a serious journalist, when it comes to politicians! Grayson has made a mockery of his office, hopefully who replaces him will serve the district better than this POS.

Grayson is the FACE and VOICE of the Democrat Party and Obama!

juan said:
Grayson is the FACE and VOICE of the Democrat Party and Obama!

omg. you are so delusional it’s scary.

“Grayson is the FACE and VOICE of the Democrat Party and Obama!”

I wish. If the rest of the Democratic party was like Grayson, there’d be no “enthusiasm gap.”

Say no to Taliban Dan. Alan Grayson will win this November.

If Anderson Cooper thinks you’ve gone off into far-left loon land, then you must really be in bad shape.

I saw this exchange last night. Grayson was caught off guard, when Anderson asked the tough questions, instead of powdering his butt, like Olbermann does. Grayson should be banned from the public domain, based only on his ugliness. What a dog.

Michele said:
Congrats, AC, remembers what it is to be a serious journalist, when it comes to politicians! Grayson has made a mockery of his office, hopefully who replaces him will serve the district better than this POS.

So you live in the district Grayson represents?

“The wily Grayson responded: “I don’t know why you keep saying I can’t argue this, that, or the other thing.”

Then grayson said “Of course I can argue that, I’m completely deranged.”

The only thing larger than this moonbat’s psychosis is his head.

One side has O’Donnell….one side has Grayson…..six of one

marcus.lewis said:
So you live in the district Grayson represents?

No, I have in-laws in that neck of the woods. They have commented that they feel he has done a disservice to those he represents.

I apologize if I gave the wrong impression.

I am glad that my beloved is stationed at Ft. Leavenworth, KS. The state offers reasonable candidates.

newzmaker said:
I saw this exchange last night. Grayson was caught off guard, when Anderson asked the tough questions, instead of powdering his butt, like Olbermann does. Grayson should be banned from the public domain, based only on his ugliness. What a dog.

This is what I miss from today’s journalists, few research the interview, site questionable sources to get the story first. It was refreshing to see Anderson prepared and Grayson’s true colors showed not only for his constituents but for those around the country who follow politics.

I have no problem whatsoever with Alan Grayson, I only have issues with the voters who elected him to office.

The blame for the problems America faces today rests more on the electorate who give their votes without having a good reason to cast their vote; or worse even, without knowing the candidates and what they stand for.

One writer described the cause of America’s problem as “Dummy Votes” and I couldn’t agree with him more.

LOGICandREASON said:
I have no problem whatsoever with Alan Grayson, I only have issues with the voters who elected him to office. The blame for the problems America faces today rests more on the electorate who give their votes without having a good reason to cast their vote; or worse even, without knowing the candidates and what they stand for. One writer described the cause of America’s problem as “Dummy Votes” and I couldn’t agree with him more.

You may have a point, it is the voter’s who should be held accountable, but it goes beyond that, how bout the millions who choose and it is their right not to, take a stand and vote.

I look at Iraq, where my husband spent 2 tours, and he told me that the Iraqis relish the right to vote and hold their finger with the ink up with pride, knowing that the very gesture might get them killed.

Many American’s take their vote for granted, than even though they stayed home feel they have the right to argue how the country is running, I say if you stayed home, shut the hell up.

I hope folks will come out this year, while I have preference, I just want folks to exercise their right to vote.

Excellent observations LOGICandREASON!

Just my 2 cents from middle America, Ft. Leavenworth, KS.

How many of you applauding this interview have any idea what Grayson has been doing in congress?

Here he is grilling the inspector general of the Fed over where trillions of taxpayer dollars went: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqM2tFOxLQ

Two million people have watched that youtube for a key reason that most of you are missing: while you follow superficial Fox News[tm] “news,” the rest of the country realizes that what we REALLY need in this country is a white collar crime task force to go after the Wall St. fat cats and their accomplices in government who have sucked up trillions of this country’s wealth and stashed it in offshore accounts, leaving the regular economy in tatters.

Grayson’s focus on financial crime and malfeasance is why he’s the #1 target of the shadowy corporate groups bankrolling this campaign against him, and why CNN is taking such glee in “nailing” him on a totally superficial issue that gives no information to the public at large about what Grayson is actually doing in his job.

The truth is: this is a day-late dollar-short rehash of what Contessa Brewer did on the SAME network a couple of days ago. Shouldn’t Anderson Cooper be grilling Karl Rove and other brokers who are giving Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Russia, China and other foreign nations a channel by which to manipulate your local politics? That’s actually happening. That’s actually news, not this.

whytee said:
How many of you applauding this interview have any idea what Grayson has been doing in congress?
The truth is: this is a day-late dollar-short rehash of what Contessa Brewer did on the SAME network a couple of days ago. Shouldn’t Anderson Cooper be grilling Karl Rove and other brokers who are giving Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Russia, China and other foreign nations a channel by which to manipulate your local politics? That’s actually happening. That’s actually news, not this.

I am with you, we should demand that all journalist’s demand the highest of ethical standards, I call it like I see it whether it is Rove OR Grayson.

But, networks only have so much time, and they may make the wrong choices as to their news items they choose, which put’s the ball in the viewers court to spend a little time reading news from other sources.

No doubt all networks could do better, and reporters and anchor’s should recall what drew them to the business, because the audience deserves ethical and honest brokers.

Few thoughts from Ft Leavenworth, KS.

Grayson is the closest thing to a COCKROACH in our congress. Hopefully the good people in the Orlando area will positively kill him, once and for all on November 2nd.

PS: For COCKROACH’S only: I sincerely apologize to each of you for comparing you to Mr. Grayson. You are living your wretched lives the only way you know how. Unfortunately, Mr. Grayson has made a conscious choice to live his life as a COCKROACH. You are not to blame for being what you are. Alan Grayson has no such excuse!

Alan Grayson will be a MSNBC contributor Nov 3.

Michele, agree. Well said!

My thinking is that the fish stinks from the head. Only about four or five massive corporations own virtually all the news outlets and big corporations demand big profits, not any kind of allegiance to truly owning their role as the “fifth estate” and bringing actual news to the people. It’s tragic that other than PBS here in the US, you have to watch BBC or other international news sources to actually get the information you need to understand what’s going on in the world.

I cant believe this idiot got elected.
The left has Grayson, Alan Green, Al Franken, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Olberman, Bill Mair, Van Jones , code pink and Rev Wright just to name a few…
Holy crap liberals have a mess of idiots, communist, crooks and pedophiles…

168150″>whytee said:
Every single political ad uses a little hyperbole.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-10-01-grayson-remarks_N.htm<blockquote cite="comment-

This isn't "hyperbole", it's psychotic. What he did with his opponent's speech isn't "hyperbole", it's a lie.
I guess we all have to do what we need to, to sleep at night.

This creature is an embarrassment to creatures.

It’s not psychotic. Webster’s philosophy on women is medieval. Grayson used hyperbole to highlight that, but that doesn’t change the fact that Webster wants to subjugate women. Those are the facts. You can throw sand on the issue by getting your panties all in a bunch for the way Grayson portrayed it, but the facts don’t change.

If you’re a woman, or have respect for women and want women to maintain their hard-fought rights, Webster and his ilk are downright dangerous.

whytee said:
It’s not psychotic. Webster’s philosophy on women is medieval. Grayson used hyperbole to highlight that, but that doesn’t change the fact that Webster wants to subjugate women. Those are the facts. You can throw sand on the issue by getting your panties all in a bunch for the way Grayson portrayed it, but the facts don’t change.

If you’re a woman, or have respect for women and want women to maintain their hard-fought rights, Webster and his ilk are downright dangerous.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42818.html

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/09/rep-grayson-lowers-the-bar/

Please don’t link spam me. We can converse using our own words and arguments, can’t we?

“But FactCheck.org says the narrative crafted by the Florida Democrat’s campaign distorts what Webster was actually saying.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42818.html#ixzz11cdAvocp

“Four times, the ad shows Webster saying wives should submit to their husbands. In fact, Webster was cautioning husbands to avoid taking that passage as their own. The unedited quote is: “Don’t pick the ones [Bible verses] that say, ‘She should submit to me.’ ”
From Factcheck

These articles refute your defense of grayson in a succinct manner.

whytee said:
Michele, agree. Well said! My thinking is that the fish stinks from the head. Only about four or five massive corporations own virtually all the news outlets and big corporations demand big profits, not any kind of allegiance to truly owning their role as the “fifth estate” and bringing actual news to the people. It’s tragic that other than PBS here in the US, you have to watch BBC or other international news sources to actually get the information you need to understand what’s going on in the world.

It is, and your comments rendered me speechless. Those in the news business are to provide the viewer with the good the bad and the ugly.

It is hard to say when those in the field forgot their mandate, but it is the subscriber’s that are at a loss. I use my IPHONE to it’s best selling point. I want to know as much as possible to make the best decision. I fear I am in the minority. As I mentioned my husband was assigned to Iraq, when it was time for elections, they proudly felt it was a duty, and raised their inked finger, that very well may kill them but they believed in democracy.

Regretfully overseas news may get it right, and I will say, all American’s should do their best to be informed and triple check the info but always do their best to support those men and women who are willing to give the ultimate sacrifice for our country.

Excellent comment, thank you.

Michele, again, so well said. And your husband’s story is moving. We built this incredible way of life here and I’m with you in hoping we can all appreciate what we have, stay informed, and participate in our democracy. I have found over the past ten years that you really DO need to check a variety of sources to attempt to put together the whole picture, and find some way to cut through the noise machine to find the genuinely important stories that get lost in the news cycle. Thanks to you for your insight and perspective!

Penguin60 said:
“But FactCheck.org says the narrative crafted by the Florida Democrat’s campaign distorts what Webster was actually saying.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42818.html#ixzz11cdAvocp

“Four times, the ad shows Webster saying wives should submit to their husbands. In fact, Webster was cautioning husbands to avoid taking that passage as their own. The unedited quote is: “Don’t pick the ones [Bible verses] that say, ‘She should submit to me.’ ”
From Factcheck

These articles refute your defense of grayson in a succinct manner.

The only bone of contention is the sound clip that Grayson uses. His ad uses that as a backdrop, like other candidates use bad or uncomfortable pictures of their opponent in their ads. It’s something almost all people running for office do these days and probably have for 200 years.

The content of his message, the listing of Webster’s record on women’s issues, is factual. None of your links dispute that.

@Michele, Thanks for the observation of yours, I have lots of respect for active duty service men and women, which of course includes your husband.

The “Dummy Votes” I pointed out actually come from those members of the public who earned their “Awareness degrees” from the “University of Mainstream media”, and particularly those who rely solely on what they are told by the likes of MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS and perhaps the Huffington post. I know a Lady(a doctor for that matter) in Gary, Indiana who thinks Rachel Maddow is a genius and Keith Olberman a mentor to her; I then tried to imagine what her voting record would be like in past general elections including 2006 mid-term, and 2008 presidential.

Your 2 cents is appreciated Michele.

LOGICandREASON said:
I have no problem whatsoever with Alan Grayson, I only have issues with the voters who elected him to office. The blame for the problems America faces today rests more on the electorate who give their votes without having a good reason to cast their vote; or worse even, without knowing the candidates and what they stand for. One writer described the cause of America’s problem as “Dummy Votes” and I couldn’t agree with him more.

Wow- another logical and reasoned comment. What in the hell are you doing HERE???

whytee said:
I think the only thing Anderson Cooper proves is how irrelevant and lame the mainstream media has become, particularly CNN. Grayson is trying to win an election. Every single political ad uses a little hyperbole. Cooper’s just trying to prove how like-Fox he is by “nailing” Grayson.

Here’s the bottom line of the snippet he used in the ad anyway: Webster isn’t saying there’s anything wrong with “she should submit to me.” He’s saying that’s not the appropriate answer for this particular question he’s asking. My impression from what little of the presentation we’re shown is that maybe “she should submit to me” was from a different section altogether, not something Webster disapproves of.

Grayson is the one congressman besides Ron Paul with the stones to take on the Fed. He’s the single congressman on the panel investigating the bailout that was able to nail the bankers and administration officials on their BS. He’s exactly the kind of politician that Washington needs, instead of all these pathetic corporate lackeys we’ve got now on both sides.

Go GRAYSON!

You are the perfect example of why the country is where it is today. A complete idiot who should have his right to vote revoked. Let’s send a total dishonest person back to Washington.

whytee said:
It’s not psychotic. Webster’s philosophy on women is medieval. Grayson used hyperbole to highlight that, but that doesn’t change the fact that Webster wants to subjugate women. Those are the facts. You can throw sand on the issue by getting your panties all in a bunch for the way Grayson portrayed it, but the facts don’t change.

If you’re a woman, or have respect for women and want women to maintain their hard-fought rights, Webster and his ilk are downright dangerous.

You are the same people who hold Islam and the Muslims up as a peaceful religion, when they treat women like dirt. Where is Webster subjugating women? He said that men should focus on other verses and that if the woman wants to apply that standard it is up to them.

whytee said:
Please

I’m curious about your screen name. Do you mean it to be like: Why Tea (party)
Or is it more like: Whitey which may or not be more like: I rep Whites
Would you mind clearing this up? If it’s not too much trouble.

musiccityvic said:
You are the perfect example of why the country is where it is today. A complete idiot who should have his right to vote revoked. Let’s send a total dishonest person back to Washington.

I don’t understand how 12 years of a Republican-controlled congress, and four Republican presidents since 1980 render me the problem with this country. (Which is not to say that the Democrats in congress or the administration have done what’s best for this country in that time either, but I can think of a number of Democrats who have stood up to the corporatization of this country and not any Republicans, which is what I think has gone wrong here. I’ve been a registered Independent since Clinton signed NAFTA, and I think independent thinking is better than following a herd.

And who’s totally dishonest? Grayson? And what’s your evidence of that? Have you looked at Grayson’s record in congress and the legislation he’s moved forward, like auditing the Fed?

musiccityvic said:
You are the same people who hold Islam and the Muslims up as a peaceful religion, when they treat women like dirt. Where is Webster subjugating women? He said that men should focus on other verses and that if the woman wants to apply that standard it is up to them.

As I said before, the sound bite Grayson used in the ad is the only thing that’s being criticized and since Webster won’t release the full presentation, we really don’t know how he feels about that quote. What is factual is what Grayson says about Webster’s record and stated views. No one is disputing that that’s an accurate reflection of his position.

I’m not even going to address how you are labeling me, but if it makes you feel better about yourself without having to actually address the points of contention, who am I to stand in your way.

Arkansas Steve said:
I’m curious about your screen name. Do you mean it to be like: Why Tea (party)
Or is it more like: Whitey which may or not be more like: I rep Whites
Would you mind clearing this up? If it’s not too much trouble.

None of the above. It’s references a character in a favorite of book of mine and is not any kind of political or racial comment.

whytee said:
How many of you applauding this interview have any idea what Grayson has been doing in congress? Here he is grilling the inspector general of the Fed over where trillions of taxpayer dollars went: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqM2tFOxLQ Two million people have watched that youtube for a key reason that most of you are missing: while you follow superficial Fox News[tm] “news,” the rest of the country realizes that what we REALLY need in this country is a white collar crime task force to go after the Wall St. fat cats and their accomplices in government who have sucked up trillions of this country’s wealth and stashed it in offshore accounts, leaving the regular economy in tatters. Grayson’s focus on financial crime and malfeasance is why he’s the #1 target of the shadowy corporate groups bankrolling this campaign against him, and why CNN is taking such glee in “nailing” him on a totally superficial issue that gives no information to the public at large about what Grayson is actually doing in his job. The truth is: this is a day-late dollar-short rehash of what Contessa Brewer did on the SAME network a couple of days ago. Shouldn’t Anderson Cooper be grilling Karl Rove and other brokers who are giving Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Russia, China and other foreign nations a channel by which to manipulate your local politics? That’s actually happening. That’s actually news, not this.

Of course you can provide us with the undisputed evidence that Rove and others are doing what you say.

No, but Rove’s outfit and the Chamber of Commerce are being investigated for it. When you have billions of dollars to work with, you can figure out ways around the law, as proved over and over again by Phil Gramm alone, which is why we have–or used to have in this country–an army of white collar cops to investigate all the new ways the ivy league-educated geniuses they hire have figured out how to rip of the American people.

I said I would like to see Rove and someone from the US Chamber of Commerce grilled about that. I’d like to know if foreign nationals are using millions to manipulate our elections, wouldn’t you?

whytee said:
The content of his message, the listing of Webster’s record on women’s issues, is factual. None of your links dispute that.

From Factcheck:

“But the ad’s claim that Webster would “deny battered women … the right to divorce their abusers” is a distortion. The claim is based on legislation he sponsored in the Florida House of Representatives 20 years ago. The bill, HB 1585, would have allowed Florida residents the option of a “covenant marriage,” which would limit their divorce rights. Under the proposal, couples could dissolve a covenant marriage only in cases of adultery. But that would not have applied to anyone who did not choose to enter a covenant marriage. The legislation died in committee in June 1990. Webster has not advocated for covenant marriages as a congressional candidate.

Webster’s positions on abortion and marriage, and his religious views, are certainly fair game. But Grayson crosses the line when he uses manipulated video to cast Webster’s views in a false light, just as he did when he concocted a false accusation that Webster had been a Vietnam draft dodger.”

Hardly medieval, he is true anti-abortion advocate. Their opinion is that life is life and no abortion should occur. I don’t subscribe to that, and it certainly can be debated.
What grayson did was lie, doesn’t seem like much debate unless you’re grayson.

Penguin60 said:
From Factcheck:

“But the ad’s claim that Webster would “deny battered women … the right to divorce their abusers” is a distortion. The claim is based on legislation he sponsored in the Florida House of Representatives 20 years ago. The bill, HB 1585, would have allowed Florida residents the option of a “covenant marriage,” which would limit their divorce rights. Under the proposal, couples could dissolve a covenant marriage only in cases of adultery. But that would not have applied to anyone who did not choose to enter a covenant marriage. The legislation died in committee in June 1990. Webster has not advocated for covenant marriages as a congressional candidate.

How is that a distortion? If passed, a battered woman in a covenant marriage could be denied the right to divorce their abusers. Don’t you think legislators should consider all the long-term implications of the legislation they sponsor?

Penguin60 said:
Webster’s positions on abortion and marriage, and his religious views, are certainly fair game. But Grayson crosses the line when he uses manipulated video to cast Webster’s views in a false light, just as he did when he concocted a false accusation that Webster had been a Vietnam draft dodger.”

He used manipulated video as wallpaper for his ad. The ad text stands on his own. And I would argue that almost every negative ad I’ve ever seen uses either a bad or embarrassing picture or sound bite as wallpaper. I’m not saying I like it, but that structure is hardly uncommon. If a candidate you supported ran an ad that did the same thing to, say, Grayson himself or Nancy Pelosi, can you say (in all honesty to yourself) that you wouldn’t take the same position I’m taking?

Penguin60 said:
Hardly medieval, he is true anti-abortion advocate. Their opinion is that life is life and no abortion should occur. I don’t subscribe to that, and it certainly can be debated.
What grayson did was lie, doesn’t seem like much debate unless you’re grayson.

I disagree and I believe it’s no accident that this ad is getting so much play while he’s s the #1 target of the runaway Brinks truck set loose by the Citizens United ruling. When you look at the guy’s actual legislative agenda, the monopolies that have enjoyed total free reign in writing legislation that affords them even greater riches even as it destroys the American economy is being challenged by an honest to goodness public servant, an advocate for people who don’t have millions of dollars to funnel through lobbyists and shadowy 501c4s.

whytee said:
How is that a distortion?

He proposed legislation that died in committee 20 yrs ago and that gives him rep that he wants to subjugate women? He’s medieval?
And no, if a candidate lies, like he intimated in the un-American spot also, I would call him on it. Negative is one thing, manipulating ,editing video is down right dishonest.
I guess you want this guy in pretty bad so neither I nor the countless other articles, and grayson himself(“let the ad die”) will convince you otherwise.
Have a nice day.
The economy is an entirely different issue.

Penguin60 said:
He proposed legislation that died in committee 20 yrs ago and that gives him rep that he wants to subjugate women? He’s medieval?
And no, if a candidate lies, like he intimated in the un-American spot also, I would call him on it. Negative is one thing, manipulating ,editing video is down right dishonest.
I guess you want this guy in pretty bad so neither I nor the countless other articles, and grayson himself(“let the ad die”) will convince you otherwise.
Have a nice day.
The economy is an entirely different issue.

I think the attack on him has been disproportionate relative to what any other candidate running negative ads has done in this or any other election. I believe the facts he details within the ad itself are sound. And my original point was that there’s nothing ballsy about Anderson Cooper rehashing something his colleague at CNN did a few days earlier, and that it speaks to the general lameness of CNN and the mainstream media in general. In my original point, I posit that there are many other legislators that can be grilled about actual relevant news, such as either the alleged bankrolling of attack ads against Democrats by foreign nationals, or the GOP voting as a block against legislation that would fight off-shoring through an end to tax giveaways to corporations that outsource and tax incentives to companies that brought jobs back to the US. You disagree that Webster’s attitude toward women is medieval but I stand by it.

You have a nice day too.

whytee said:
And my original point was that there’s nothing ballsy about Anderson Cooper rehashing something his colleague at CNN did a few days earlier, and that it speaks to the general lameness of CNN and the mainstream media in general.

On that we can agree.

Grayson did nothing worse than Saxby Chamblis’ campaign ad misrepresenting Vietnam war hero Max Cleland’s record by comparing him to Osama Bin-laden during their election.

Where were you apologists then?

I hope that slimeball is fired and NEVER will be on TV again. He is such an AxxHole he doesn’t even appear to be a logical human being. Now HE is a person who owes Many, many apologizes, but, of course, he doesn’t know HOW!

FACT: Alan Grayson’s new ad destroys Dan Webster

http://crooksandliars.com/adam-bink/fact-alan-graysons-new-ad-destroys-dan-w

whytee said:
Every single political ad uses a little hyperbole.

“Hyperbole,” now that’s an interesting term to describe a low down ugly and malicious lie.

GlennBeckReview said:
FACT: Alan Grayson’s new ad destroys Dan Webster

WRONG stalker breath, Grayson destroys his credibility with the subject ad @ Webster.

whytee said:
I don’t understand how 12 years of a Republican-controlled congress

Did I miss something?