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Bill Maher’s Panel Rips Obama: “Not A Leader,” “Sucking Up To The People He Should Be Fighting”

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Holding the world’s highest-profile job guarantees a great deal of criticism at all times, but even by those standards, there’s been substantial invective hurled President Barack Obama‘s way these last few days – much of it from people normally on his side. Al Gore criticized him over climate change. A trio of MSNBC pundits went on record saying they weren’t fans of his recent speech on Afghanistan. And tonight, the panel on Real Time with Bill Maher gave something of a state-of-the-president address…and Obama probably wouldn’t like what he heard from this group, either.

This panel wasn’t composed entirely of people generally sympathetic to Obama – Republican strategist Susan Del Percio made an appearance, and radio host Michael Smerconish, though he voted for Obama in 2008, exclusively voted for Republican presidential candidates prior to that election. That, though, didn’t mean Obama got off any easier than he did when MSNBC’s talking heads put down his Afghanistan speech, with Del Percio saying he’s “not a leader” and Maher lamenting that Obama’s golf outing with John Boehner served as an allegory of sorts: the president was “sucking up to the people he should be fighting.”

Smerconish, in fact, was the kindest to Obama of anyone on the panel, saying “he inherited a disaster, and that perhaps he just wasn’t as liberal as people thought he was – indeed, he voted for him for exactly that reason. And The New York TimesDavid Carr did say he thinks Obama will win re-election next year, but not through any great virtues of his own: rather, it’s because the Republican race resembles a “tallest leprechaun contest.” Carr also offered this…unique take on Obama’s Afghanistan plan:

“The pullout in Afghanistan reminds me a little bit of the pullout I promised the mother of my children.”

And Maher seemed to agree with much of what Del Percio said, acknowledging that while Obama has some significant accomplishments to his name, he may not be able to survive the feeling of his support base that he doesn’t really represent them. A long way from this on Maher’s part, but frankly, it’s not hard to see where he’s coming from. The events of earlier tonight, for example, were yet another clear sign public opinion is turning on the gay marriage issue, but the president still hasn’t endorsed the idea – this despite mounting evidence suggesting he never really opposed it to begin with. It’s fair to ask: is that a leader, or your standard everyday political opportunist? Video, via HBO, below.

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  • rubberneck

    People just don’t like getting fooled by hope ‘n change.

  • CAINtheBULL

    Libs: He shouldn’t compromise with Republicans.
    Republicans: Republicans in Congress who comprise with Obama will be voted out.

    Great. And nothing gets done.

  • The Voice of Reason

    Bill Maher has the politically fascist mindset that is plaguing our country. Fringes hating on and rallying against fringes, and all whom disagree; while advocating more

    And his backing to his piss poor narrative is full of shit. Really shows the disconnected from reality people like that have to be.

  • newzmaker

    Oddly enough, the Independents who voted for Obama, fully supported him until he allowed the fringe left to take over the party and the agenda. The professional fringe left, including Maher, have brought down Obama’s presidency and he will lose in 2012. Obama’s only legacy will be the first ever black president.

  • Yoda002

    newzmaker said:
    Oddly enough, the Independents who voted for Obama, fully supported him until he allowed the fringe left to take over the party and the agenda. The professional fringe left, including Maher, have brought down Obama’s presidency and he will lose in 2012. Obama’s only legacy will be the first ever black president.

    Fringe left? The problem is that he didn’t go to the left. Calling him a socialists doesn’t mean he went to the left.

  • GoneFishing

    rubberneck said:
    People just don’t like getting fooled by hope ‘n change.

    True. You can only get the idiots to chase the rainbow for so long before they figure out the little guy with the big ears does not have a pot of gold.

  • slickerwick

    Maher, who likes to present himself as oh-so-worldly wise, was naive enough to fall for a marketing ploy and empty sloganeering a la hopey-changey. What a rube he is.

    Why does that NYT guy keep his nose in the air like he’s trying not to smell his own farts? Though I have to say he had some funny lines.

    Maher, who thinks he’s so skeptical and urbane believes there’s that huge a difference between the two parties? He needs to get out more into the real world and talk to real people who can’t be so easily pigeon-holed into eeevil repubs and heroic dems. He thinks Repubs are evil, that they’re the enemy? Is that the kind of starkly dichotomous comic book world he lives in?

    Maher isn’t ha-ha funny, btw, just snarky and tendentious. Stewart is funny. Maher is not. He’s more an arrogant ass.

  • WCinWI

    newzmaker said:
    Oddly enough, the Independents who voted for Obama, fully supported him until he allowed the fringe left to take over the party and the agenda. The professional fringe left, including Maher, have brought down Obama’s presidency and he will lose in 2012. Obama’s only legacy will be the first ever black president.

    The rumors that Obama’s worse than Jimmy Carter have already started. Not good.

  • Dem4Ever

    Obama has lost Bill Mahar, Rachel Madow, Chris Mathews, Larry O’Donnel, Jon Stewart, Barney Frank and Al Gore. Perhaps Michelle Obama will not get her wish of “4 more years” after all.

  • skyfet

    Suck up to the haters, pisses on this who supports him. When confronted, he’ll say well you can chose other options next time.

  • CRW

    slickerwick said:
    Maher, who likes to present himself as oh-so-worldly wise, was naive enough to fall for a marketing ploy and empty sloganeering a la hopey-changey. What a rube he is.

    Why does that NYT guy keep his nose in the air like he’s trying not to smell his own farts? Though I have to say he had some funny lines.

    Maher, who thinks he’s so skeptical and urbane believes there’s that huge a difference between the two parties? He needs to get out more into the real world and talk to real people who can’t be so easily pigeon-holed into eeevil repubs and heroic dems. He thinks Repubs are evil, that they’re the enemy? Is that the kind of starkly dichotomous comic book world he lives in?

    Maher isn’t ha-ha funny, btw, just snarky and tendentious. Stewart is funny. Maher is not. He’s more an arrogant ass.

    Whoa. Dude. Hat’s off. “Urbane?” “Dichotomous?” “Tendentious?” Nice. That’s no smoking baby. That’s not even your average adult’s vocabulary. And, to top it all off, you’re right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dianne-Baltramaitis/1186765185 Dianne93101

    I suspect that guys like Maher and Stewart are quite different in real life and are actually exploiting their audience while laughing at them behind their backs.

  • Greg

    Obama has never been a rigid partisan. The great promise of his administration was compromise. This promise, weakened as some on the right resented his victory and saw only political opportunity in national crisis. He continues to compromise for better or worse. I am sure he understands the climate and knows that to become rigid in fluid times serves no one well and all but home school history will eventually tell of his wisdom.

  • LOGICandREASON

    Air head

  • ChrisNH

    GoneFishing said:
    True. You can only get the idiots to chase the rainbow for so long before they figure out the little guy with the big ears does not have a pot of gold.

    Wait! You mean there’s no ‘Obamo’s Stash’ like those cackling hens in Detroit were cheering themselves over in 2009? I’ll bet that other gal is still waiting for her new kitchen, too. The ‘Porch-sitter’ community is pretty conflicted right about now. Tee Hee!

  • The Lantern of Truth

    King Obama has never been a leader of the American people . From the start Barry ( I won ) Obama has been a highly partisan , arrogant little man . He was only the main Organizer of his union supporter/thugs and the suckers who bought the rotgut he was pushing . All he wants is to be reelected . Imagine the horrors he would perpetrate on us then .

    Moochy is still counting on the clueless media to remain on their campaign staff :

    “In an interview with CNN, First Lady Michelle Obama thanks the media for their “support” and “kindness.”

    CNN reporter: “How’s the family ready for this [the election]? It’s going to be quite vicious, isn’t it? How do you prepare for that?”

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/06/24/michelle_obama_fortunately_we_have_help_from_the_media.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    ““he inherited a disaster”

    You could say the same about Bush. He inherited two bubbles (tech and housing bubble), a recession AND a war with Islamic extremists. Thanks Clinton!

    Also, its hilarious to me how liberals always talk about civility and working together, then you read shit like this:

    “the president was “sucking up to the people he should be fighting.””

    The Democrats/liberals see anyone who doesnt agree with them as their enemy. So, why should anyone act civil towards them?

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Couple this with the Biatch-Slap the Pres took from fellow Dems over Libya, and Barry’s started a CIVIL WAR in the Democratic Party!

    Where are the noisemakers & balloons?

    Wow! – IT REALLY IS THE HOPE & CHANGE WE WERE LOOKING FOR!

  • TfT

    This sentence really made me laugh:

    Holding the world’s highest-profile job guarantees a great deal of criticism at all times, but even by those standards, there’s been substantial invective hurled President Barack Obama’s way these last few days

    This President has hardly been attacked, he does get some criticism, and when republicans criticize him hey are labeled racist, but when Marher does it it is “subsantial invective”. So funny.

    Of all Presidents, this one gets more passes, more stories are spiked, and hisis protected by and large by abccbsnbccnnsmbncetc.

    Funny stuff here at mediaite. BTW: I know why the President apologied, does any mediaite staff know?

  • possibly

    More redmeat for the T-party on Mediate-America’s Foxnation on steroids.

    Mediate: all conservative catnip, all the time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Wright/774124882 Timothy Wright

    Here is the difference between the left and the right. The left WILL BE and ARE critical of their leaders. The right follow and do as they are told.

    It really is free thinkers (left) vs. non-thinkers (right).

  • Yukon Jack

    Even the most fervent supporters of affirmative action are beginning to realize the sad and tragic consequences of sending a boy to do a man’s job.

  • TfT

    Mrs. O knows the truth…/.let me quote her:

    “Fortunately, we have help from the media. I have to say this: I’m very grateful for the support and kindness that we’ve gotten”

    Yup, the Obama’s know that the US media is out their protecting and dedefending them, campaigning for them, and working overtime to help hehimself escape the ultimate truth and judge abouthim – he is an empty suit manchild. But alas, with the media in hiscamp, as noted byMrs. Obama herself, she feels their loving arms and support all around her. how precious.

  • lane

    Either Obama can appease the far-left or he can get re-elected. He cannot do both.

    If Maher doesn’t like what you’re doing, it’s a good sign what your doing is both the right and the smart move.

  • ChrisNH

    The inbred ‘He-Inherited-A-Disaster’ crowd conveniently fails to acknowledge that it was a Harry Reid and a Nancy Pelosi disaster. Things plummeted downhill on their watch, everyone can plainly see. The laws and legislation were theirs to create, as was the devastation that’s followed since.

  • BatBoy

    President BO faught those Wall Street Bankers the other night when he charged them $35,800 to have dinner with him. And you Progressives still think Wall Street Bankers club are Republicans…

    That is showing them….

    From the reports I heard, there were many who did not show up that funded his campaign in 2008.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    Timothy Wright said:
    Here is the difference between the left and the right. The left WILL BE and ARE critical of their leaders. The right follow and do as they are told.

    It really is free thinkers (left) vs. non-thinkers (right).

    Ah, the typical arrogant liberal posting. Here’s the problem. You’re only critical of Obama if he:

    A) Isn’t liberal or left wing enough
    B) Works with Republicans

    Which just happens to be the exact same reasons that the right was critical of Bush. So please, spare us your holier-than-thou liberal attitude. You’re no different than the most partisan right wing tea party member.

  • newzmaker

    Yoda002 said:
    Fringe left? The problem is that he didn’t go to the left. Calling him a socialists doesn’t mean he went to the left.

    For the first 2 years of Obama’s presidency, Pelosi and Reid were given the reins to the Dem party, to push a fringe left agenda. Independents ran like hell when that happened, from Obama. Obama simply can’t spend 4 years, doing nothing but playing in the White House and allowing the fringe to control the agenda. The proof is his downward spiral. Being president is more than parties, ice cream, rap musicians. Much more.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Yukon Jack said:
    Even the most fervent supporters of affirmative action are beginning to realize the sad and tragic consequences of sending a boy to do a man’s job.

    “Affirmative Action?” LOL. The LAST President in office, was a legacy Trust-fund baby, and you’re complaining that Obama is an “Affirmative Action” recipient? Please.

    The problem with the professional left is that they invent their own history and narratives due to their own financial comfort. The professional left engages in ideological, philosophical debates that don’t amount to much, while the think tank right organizes, and strategizes to push their agenda through no matter who the Republicans nominate or have in power. The professional left focuses on individuals. The think-tank right focuses on ideas (albeit bad ones.)

    Dronetek said:
    You could say the same about Bush. He inherited two bubbles (tech and housing bubble), a recession AND a war with Islamic extremists. Thanks Clinton!

    Wrong. Islamic extremists have been attacking us for decades. (Remember 1983 Lebanon barracks–241 marines dead by Hezbollah suicide truck bombs under Reagan–and then he cut and ran from Lebanon). Bush inherited a budget SURPLUS, which he quickly dissolved with a 1.2 TRILLION dollar tax cut that went mostly to the rich.

    Greg said:
    Obama has never been a rigid partisan. The great promise of his administration was compromise. This promise, weakened as some on the right resented his victory and saw only political opportunity in national crisis. He continues to compromise for better or worse. I am sure he understands the climate and knows that to become rigid in fluid times serves no one well and all but home school history will eventually tell of his wisdom.

    Spot on. This is the problem with the Bill Maher’s and Michael Moores of the world. They might be on the right side of some issues, but they’d rather fight for ideological purity than accomplish anything substantial.

    –Cobra

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bill Maher’s Panel Rips Obama: “Not A Leader,” “Sucking Up To The People He Should Be Fighting”

    Barry just glad he got to play golf with the grown-ups last weekend . Now they want him to get to ” work”.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/168453-mccarthy-to-obama-get-off-the-golf-course

    – Lantern

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Denny-Flojak/1550780778 Denny Flojak

    Timothy Wright said:
    Here is the difference between the left and the right. The left WILL BE and ARE critical of their leaders. The right follow and do as they are told. It really is free thinkers (left) vs. non-thinkers (right).

    Way to go Timmy boy, the first time Obama has been criticized by any of the sheep on the left, and we can assume the racists on the right are wrong and the turds on the left upstanding critics of their own. What world do you libs live in? This guy is the worst president since Jimma caaatta, and may be deemed the worst by history. All we’ve heard is what a swell job he’s doing from the msm. We have 9% unemployment, the country is being looked at as out of control and being run by a moron by most of our former foreign allies, he is alienating Israel and sucking up to Islamic leaders that have always been afraid of us, and we’re supposed to believe the left is fair and balanced and the right are sheep. Sorry Tim, that rates a blow me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Denny-Flojak/1550780778 Denny Flojak

    Cobra, why don’t libs remember the tech bubble that was dissolving as Bush took office. People were making millions in the late 90′s by betting on the qualcomm’s of the world that were nothing but hot air balloons. When the sh@t hit the fan and reality set in, the economy started tanking in early 2000. Clinton was the hero and Bush inherited a sinking ship. And the repub’s didn’t whine about what they inherited for the next 2 years, they went to work. The economy, in case anyone remembers, was coming back when 9/11 sank the markets and the economy for awhile, and everyone laughed at Bush’s “go shopping” comment. Then we went through another strong economic period in the mid 2000′s with under 5% uneemployment and a huge housing stampede that created more wealth and a strong economy until the greed and cheating got in the way. Guess what, maybe Obama needs to take a lesson, cause I can tell you, no one’s shopping under this guy. Never seen the American public as negative and the pride of being the greatest nation tested like this guy has tested our intestinal fortitude. We need to get back to a feeling of dynamic american pride. That will happen when Obama is gone.

  • RichS

    Greg said:
    Obama has never been a rigid partisan. The great promise of his administration was compromise. This promise, weakened as some on the right resented his victory and saw only political opportunity in national crisis. He continues to compromise for better or worse. I am sure he understands the climate and knows that to become rigid in fluid times serves no one well and all but home school history will eventually tell of his wisdom.

    What color is the sky in your world?

  • writer

    Maher is just pissed that Obama isn’t far left enough for him. But Chairman Mao was unavailable.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Seems it’s getting more & more confusing for Democrats as to who to SMEAR with the racist canard these days.

    For instance:
    When White Democrats criricize Obama…are they RACISTS?
    What about Black Democrats? – Racist too?

    Can someone please clarify for the Democrats – and THEIR MEDIA – who to start flailing away at with the GRATUITOUS accusations of RACISM!

  • donalan

    Even when the ‘libs’ hate their own – its not enough hate to feed the right. No, we do not like President Obama in that he has been much more like bush than he claimed he would be.. Maher speaks out and so many of my friends on the right cannot see the opportunity to find common ground, to applaud the critique.

    So many Need to hate and loath the other half of Americans no matter what – inexplicable…

  • newzmaker

    Timothy Wright said:
    Here is the difference between the left and the right. The left WILL BE and ARE critical of their leaders. The right follow and do as they are told. It really is free thinkers (left) vs. non-thinkers (right).

    Independents and moderates decide elections, not the right or left. Obama pulled a fast one by placing Pelosi and Reid in charge of his presidency, in 2008. The fringe left wasn’t part of the Obama deal, wih moderates and Independents, which has led to his failed presidency, among numerous other reasons. Last, but not least, Repubs and Independents, alike, totally rejected the Repubs in 2008, which led to what we have now in DC, unfortunately. Repubs speak at the ballot box, while fringe lefties are all up in everyones’ faces with their pseuso-liberal BS nonsense.

  • possibly

    Yukon Jack said:
    Even the most fervent supporters of affirmative action are beginning to realize the sad and tragic consequences of sending a boy to do a man’s job.

    Yukan jack is a tea-party racist.

  • newzmaker

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    Seems it’s getting more & more confusing for Democrats as to who to SMEAR with the racist canard these days. For instance:When White Democrats criricize Obama…are they RACISTS?What about Black Democrats? – Racist too? Can someone please clarify for the Democrats – and THEIR MEDIA – who to start flailing away at with the GRATUITOUS accusations of RACISM!

    Accusations of racism by the Dems, is nothing more than a [strategy] to intimidate their opponents. Also, it’s proof that the Dems have nothing of substance to back up their arguments, as always. Actually, when the Dems play the race card, this also means their opponents are winning the debate, and they, the Dems, are losing. When pseudo-liberals sit on message boards or cable TV and label their opponents as ‘racists’, I say be proud. You’re doing your jobs. Thank the pseudo-liberals, especially the white ones, then, ignore their further race-baiting.

  • Pablo

    Well, Bill, I hate to say “I told you so.” Aw, who am I kidding? You bought the hype, fools, and that is all it ever was.

  • Pablo

    writer said:
    Maher is just pissed that Obama isn’t far left enough for him. But Chairman Mao was unavailable.

    Bill wanted a gangsta, but he got an Urkel instead.

  • Pablo

    donalan said:
    Even when the ‘libs’ hate their own – its not enough hate to feed the right. No, we do not like President Obama in that he has been much more like bush than he claimed he would be.. Maher speaks out and so many of my friends on the right cannot see the opportunity to find common ground, to applaud the critique.

    So many Need to hate and loath the other half of Americans no matter what – inexplicable…

    Do you plan to vote for Obama?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Denny Flojak said:
    Cobra, why don’t libs remember the tech bubble that was dissolving as Bush took office. People were making millions in the late 90’s by betting on the qualcomm’s of the world that were nothing but hot air balloons. When the sh@t hit the fan and reality set in, the economy started tanking in early 2000. Clinton was the hero and Bush inherited a sinking ship. And the repub’s didn’t whine about what they inherited for the next 2 years, they went to work. The economy, in case anyone remembers, was coming back when 9/11 sank the markets and the economy for awhile, and everyone laughed at Bush’s “go shopping” comment. Then we went through another strong economic period in the mid 2000’s with under 5% uneemployment and a huge housing stampede that created more wealth and a strong economy until the greed and cheating got in the way. Guess what, maybe Obama needs to take a lesson, cause I can tell you, no one’s shopping under this guy. Never seen the American public as negative and the pride of being the greatest nation tested like this guy has tested our intestinal fortitude. We need to get back to a feeling of dynamic american pride. That will happen when Obama is gone.

    1. What part of the phrase “inherited a budget surplus” don’t you understand?
    2. The economy wasn’t “tanking” in 2000–January 2001 unemployment was at 4.2%. In January 2009 it was 7.6%.
    3. Republicans “whine” about damn near EVERYTHING regarding Clinton, so I don’t know where you got that one.
    4. The “huge housing stampede” was because of deregulation and casino-style Wall Street shenanigans and was doomed to failure.
    5. Under Bush, we had Trillions spent on unpaid for wars, unpaid for corporate welfare (Medicare D), unpaid for tax cuts and drunken sailor spending with no conservative opposition (“Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter”–Dick Cheney)
    6. The “American Public” consists of more than just Fox News viewers and the people you know personally.

    newzmaker said:
    Independents and moderates decide elections, not the right or left. Obama pulled a fast one by placing Pelosi and Reid in charge of his presidency, in 2008. The fringe left wasn’t part of the Obama deal, wih moderates and Independents, which has led to his failed presidency, among numerous other reasons. Last, but not least, Repubs and Independents, alike, totally rejected the Repubs in 2008, which led to what we have now in DC, unfortunately. Repubs speak at the ballot box, while fringe lefties are all up in everyones’ faces with their pseuso-liberal BS nonsense.

    What are you talking about? There are THREE branches of government. And “failed?” Obama signed on more accomplishments in 2 and half years than most Presidents in 8. You hate Obama. We get it. Today’s conservatives hate EVERY DEMOCRAT. It’s part of the game.

    –Cobra

  • newzmaker

    Cobra said:
    1. What part of the phrase “inherited a budget surplus” don’t you understand?2. The economy wasn’t “tanking” in 2000–January 2001 unemployment was at 4.2%. In January 2009 it was 7.6%.3. Republicans “whine” about damn near EVERYTHING regarding Clinton, so I don’t know where you got that one.4. The “huge housing stampede” was because of deregulation and casino-style Wall Street shenanigans and was doomed to failure.5. Under Bush, we had Trillions spent on unpaid for wars, unpaid for corporate welfare (Medicare D), unpaid for tax cuts and drunken sailor spending with no conservative opposition (“Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter”–Dick Cheney)6. The “American Public” consists of more than just Fox News viewers and the people you know personally. What are you talking about? There are THREE branches of government. And “failed?” Obama signed on more accomplishments in 2 and half years than most Presidents in 8. You hate Obama. We get it. Today’s conservatives hate EVERY DEMOCRAT. It’s part of the game. –Cobra

    Dude, I’m an American, not a liberal or conservative. Keep singing that same old tune, ‘everyone hates Obama’, blah, blah, blah, while the sane people in this country work on getting rid of the fringe left in DC, including Obama. The Dems have allowed you, the fringe, to hi-jack their party, and for this they will pay at the polls.

  • newzmaker

    I hope Maher and other pseudo-liberals have learned a huge lesson. Voting for a president based on nothing but skin color, to ‘prove’ they are not racists, has backfired in their faces. Next time, vote for substance.

  • Yukon Jack

    Cobra said:
    “Affirmative Action?” LOL. The LAST President in office, was a legacy Trust-fund baby, and you’re complaining that Obama is an “Affirmative Action” recipient? Please.

    The problem with the professional left is that they invent their own history and narratives due to their own financial comfort. The professional left engages in ideological, philosophical debates that don’t amount to much, while the think tank right organizes, and strategizes to push their agenda through no matter who the Republicans nominate or have in power. The professional left focuses on individuals. The think-tank right focuses on ideas (albeit bad ones.)

    Wrong. Islamic extremists have been attacking us for decades. (Remember 1983 Lebanon barracks–241 marines dead by Hezbollah suicide truck bombs under Reagan–and then he cut and ran from Lebanon). Bush inherited a budget SURPLUS, which he quickly dissolved with a 1.2 TRILLION dollar tax cut that went mostly to the rich.

    Spot on. This is the problem with the Bill Maher’s and Michael Moores of the world. They might be on the right side of some issues, but they’d rather fight for ideological purity than accomplish anything substantial.

    –Cobra

    The last President that you carelessly and foolishly try to dismiss as a ‘Legacy trust fund baby’ was a successful twice elected governor of the third largest state in the Union and a successful businessman, eminently qualified to be President.

    0bama, on the other hand, had no business or any other kind of executive experience. Bush’s ‘legacy’ was mentioned far fewer times than the possibility and the HOPE of the first BLACK President.

    Obviously, the guilt-ridden whites wanted to make up for something they never committed, were guilty of, but felt it was their social obligation to feel guilty about, slavery. Forgetting all the while that there never was anything, whatsoever, in 0bama’s past that would qualify him for any sympathy due to mistreatment by whites.

    Racism and affirmative action at its best. Or more properly, at its worst.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Denny-Flojak/1550780778 Denny Flojak

    Cobra said:
    1. What part of the phrase “inherited a budget surplus” don’t you understand?2. The economy wasn’t “tanking” in 2000–January 2001 unemployment was at 4.2%. In January 2009 it was 7.6%.3. Republicans “whine” about damn near EVERYTHING regarding Clinton, so I don’t know where you got that one.<BR
    As per Items one and two Cobra, here's something you may not want to face. It's called facts:

    From Wikipidia

    "As the Dot Com bubble occurred in the mid and late 1990s, assorted predictions that eventually the bubble would burst emerged frequently. The Federal Reserve raised interest rates six times between June 1999 and May 2000 in an effort to cool the economy to a soft landing. The actual burst of the stock market bubble occurred in the form of the NASDAQ crash in March 2000. Growth in gross domestic product slowed considerably in the third quarter of 2000 to the lowest rate since a contraction in the first quarter of 1991.[3]

    The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee has determined that a peak in business activity occurred in the U.S. economy in March 2001. A peak marks the end of an expansion and the beginning of a recession. The determination of a peak date in March is thus a determination that the expansion that began in March 1991 ended in March 2001 and a recession began[3]. "

    There was a surplus based on fictitious profits for people from the dot.com bubble. Read and Learn. As regards Clinton, we hear on a daily basis how the first "black" president did such a great job. Republicans mostly didn't like the shenanigans going on in the oval office, but the MSM can't blow enough smoke up his arse. I'm also not happy with the blow up of the housing bubble or the cost of wars in lives and money.

    The american public is every tom dick and mary on the street. Get outside your commune and ask real people how they're doing, how they feel about what's happening here in America. I can see your problem now, you are starting to realize, as are all the left wing Obama water bearers, that Obama's in big trouble. Not pretty. One term is all this guy is gonna serve, and that makes you nervous. Get over it, the next president won't be your cup of tea but at least you'll have the entire MSM on your side, bashing whoever defeats Obama from their first day in office, wondering, hey you've been president for a week, where's the jobs. Similar to the questions asked of the current republican congress that was supposed to create jobs in 2 months that Obama and dem's couldn't create in 2.5 years. .

    Do your homework, i hate to embarass you like this.

  • OxyCon

    Fear not my far-left extremist friends. Whenever Obama “acts” like a moderate, it’s merely a ruse to try to get some “bitter-clingers” to vote for him. But behind everyone’s backs and in secrecy, Obama is every bit the far-left radical extremist of your heart’s desire.

  • Dem4Ever

    When Obama took office he said that he would rather be a ‘principled one term president’ than be a ‘sell out two term president’.  Well Mr. President…we’re waiting to see which one you are.

  • Paul G

    Maher is just a moron…leave it at that.

  • SuburbanPatriot

    When the far left loons turn on the far left loons it is definitely the end for 0-bow-ma Hussein and his cronies and the beginning of a new era for the United States of America and one which I am only to happy to see come to about. Go ahead Mahr mock your massiah it is only a matter of time before we take back our country from the prog libs. Thank you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bruce-Kennedy/1439463341 Bruce

    SuburbanPatriot said:
    When the far left loons turn on the far left loons it is definitely the end for 0-bow-ma Hussein and his cronies and the beginning of a new era for the United States of America and one which I am only to happy to see come to about. Go ahead Mahr mock your massiah it is only a matter of time before we take back our country from the prog libs. Thank you.

    Not for at least another four more years. This country endured eight years of “ship” under GW and the worthless Conservatives.

  • TeaPartyNation

    From the sublime:

    “Bill Maher’s Panel Rips Obama: “Not A Leader,” “Sucking Up To The People He Should Be Fighting””

    to the ridiculous:

    “Bill Maher To Bristol Palin: “Just Admit It, You Were Horny””

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Denny Flojak said:
    I’m also not happy with the blow up of the housing bubble or the cost of wars in lives and money.

    But you still support the people who brought them to us, right?

    Denny Flojak said:
    Get outside your commune and ask real people how they’re doing, how they feel about what’s happening here in America.

    You want to go back to the winter of 2008 economically? Losing HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of jobs a month instead of gaining? That’s what you’re looking for?

    Yukon Jack said:
    The last President that you carelessly and foolishly try to dismiss as a ‘Legacy trust fund baby’ was a successful twice elected governor of the third largest state in the Union and a successful businessman, eminently qualified to be President.

    George W. Bush is from inherited money, and was a legacy admission to Yale University. Those are FACTS.
    Bush’s record as a governor?
    From children living in poverty to pollution, Texas under Bush was a DISASTER.
    http://www.knowthecandidates.org/ktc/bushtexasranks.htm

    Bush businesses? What successful business did Bush ever run?

    newzmaker said:
    I hope Maher and other pseudo-liberals have learned a huge lesson. Voting for a president based on nothing but skin color, to ‘prove’ they are not racists, has backfired in their faces. Next time, vote for substance.

    The first 43 Presidents were White. Your disappointment it didn’t stay that way doesn’t concern me.

    –Cobra

    Denny Flojak said:
    Similar to the questions asked of the current republican congress that was supposed to create jobs in 2 months that Obama and dem’s couldn’t create in 2.5 years. .

    Uh-huh. From Rupert Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal:

    “The current President Bush, once taking account how long he’s been in office, shows the worst track record for job creation since the government began keeping records. –Sudeep Reddy
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

    Denny Flojak said:
    Do your homework, i hate to embarass you like this.

    You actually gave me a good laugh.

  • gene

    1st: Bush mucked up; I am very upset at the spending but he did not go it alone.
    2cd: The Democrats were there all the way and did their vote of support.
    3rd: Democrats ‘Took Over’ the House and Senate in 2006; and, it really went DOWNHILL.
    4th: But this Economic Mess began in 1977 with Jimmy Carter and the CRA; ACORN;
    Community Organizing; et all.
    5th: Also, Barney Frank & Friend at Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac are the major root cause.
    6th: And Entitlement Programs are all Killing ‘U.S.” – Al Gore cast the deciding vote to
    ‘RAID SOCIAL SECURITY’
    7th: 47% of ‘U.S.’ do not have jobs and/or are underpaid.
    8th: Bring our soldiers home and spend the $500 Billion here to guard our borders.
    [That will produce (not create) $Three Trillion into the economy]
    9th: PRODUCE ALL OUR OWN ENERGY and that will bring $500 to 800 Billion
    [That will produce another $Three Trillion or more into the economy]
    10th: Then we will be fully employed and ‘TAX REVENUES WILL FLOW’
    due to the 47% now having good money jobs and paying Taxes vs gettin a gov check

    11th: I could go on and on and on…..just seek TRUTH not Political Spin.

    12th: GO TO THIS LINK http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/changes.asp
    you can get both sides / insight into just one: “Social Security” (do some homework)

    13th: AND google for truth; you’ll read & weep/our grandkids, great grandkids; etc are sunk!!!

  • Yukon Jack

    Dem4Ever said:
    When Obama took office he said that he would rather be a ‘principled one term president’ than be a ’sell out two term president’.  Well Mr. President…we’re waiting to see which one you are.

    So far he has been very, very, very, very disciplined.

  • GreyGoose

    Dem4Ever said:
    Well Mr. President…we’re waiting to see which one you are.

    You haven’t figured that one out yet? I’ve got 1 word for you: Guantanamo

  • JerseyJones

    Who did Bill Maher’s hair plugs? Who does his botox? He looks great for sixty one years old.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Gunnyon/638397317 Gaucho

    in a way, bill maher is kinda right.

    its not that obama is super awesome, its that republicans are just super terrible.

    look at the ones posting here, there’s reason enough to make sure they never get into office again.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    gene said:
    2cd: The Democrats were there all the way and did their vote of support.

    Actually, the only reason we got the 1.2 Trillion tax cut in 2001 was because VP Dick Cheney broke the tie in the Senate.

    gene said:
    4th: But this Economic Mess began in 1977 with Jimmy Carter and the CRA; ACORN;
    Community Organizing; et all.

    Jimmy Carter and the Community Reinvestment Act had NOTHING to do with Banksters on Wall Street over-leveraging to the tune of $56 Trillion dollars. I know White Conservatives like to blame damn near everything on Black and Brown folks, but there aren’t ENOUGH minorities in America for that one.

    gene said:
    5th: Also, Barney Frank & Friend at Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac are the major root cause.

    If Democrats didn’t take over the House until January 2007 (your very post), how the hell can you blame Barney Frank (D), who wasn’t even a Chairman of his committee during the time you accuse him of this personal deviltry?

    gene said:
    6th: And Entitlement Programs are all Killing ‘U.S.” – Al Gore cast the deciding vote to
    ‘RAID SOCIAL SECURITY’

    Al Gore ran on putting Social Security in a “LOCK BOX.” You right wingers made fun of him for it.

    gene said:
    7th: 47% of ‘U.S.’ do not have jobs and/or are underpaid.

    Ask your conservative CEO friends to stop outsourcing labor and insourcing illegals.

    gene said:
    8th: Bring our soldiers home and spend the $500 Billion here to guard our borders.
    [That will produce (not create) $Three Trillion into the economy]

    I agree with the soldiers coming home…but if your conservative CEO friends stopped HIRING ILLEGALS they wouldn’t COME HERE.

    gene said:
    9th: PRODUCE ALL OUR OWN ENERGY and that will bring $500 to 800 Billion
    [That will produce another $Three Trillion or more into the economy]

    LOL…sell that one to the Republicans. Their ONLY answer is to have multinational oil companies (not loyal or exclusively American) drill more.

    Gaucho said:
    in a way, bill maher is kinda right.

    its not that obama is super awesome, its that republicans are just super terrible.

    look at the ones posting here, there’s reason enough to make sure they never get into office again.

    My problem with the rich professional left is that there will never be a sitting President that will satisfy them. They only appreciate them decades after they’re gone.

    –Cobra

  • jakester

    SuburbanPatriot said:
    When the far left loons turn on the far left loons it is definitely the end for 0-bow-ma Hussein and his cronies and the beginning of a new era for the United States of America and one which I am only to happy to see come to about. Go ahead Mahr mock your massiah it is only a matter of time before we take back our country from the prog libs. Thank you.

    Take back our country? So you have a title to it? Anyone who has to use a trite monosyllabic term like “loon” is saying more about the poverty of his mind than the sanity of some one else’s mind

  • jakester

    The Voice of Reason said:
    Bill Maher has the politically fascist mindset that is plaguing our country. Fringes hating on and rallying against fringes, and all whom disagree; while advocating more

    And his backing to his piss poor narrative is full of shit. Really shows the disconnected from reality people like that have to be.

    People who go on about fascists are usually morons or fascists themselves. Even when I disagree with him I would rather listen to him than a typical little con like you. He has way more insight and intellect than you, sorry.

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  • Alz

    jakester said:
    People who go on about fascists are usually morons or fascists themselves. Even when I disagree with him I would rather listen to him than a typical little con like you. He has way more insight and intellect than you, sorry.

    I would say you are afraid of a discussion on Fascism because it would come out that Fascism is on the Left, not the Right as liberals/Progressives have been pushing for so long.

  • jakester

    Alz said:
    I would say you are afraid of a discussion on Fascism because it would come out that Fascism is on the Left, not the Right as liberals/Progressives have been pushing for so long.

    Please spare us your childish little label games. Right- Left, con- lib are relative and imprecise. Maher is not a fascist and the “Voice of Reason” is the “Voice of Right Wing Idiocy” if his low caliber brain feels otherwise. If you believe Maher is a fascist, then prove it or crawl back into your little survival bunker.

    Right wing originally meant crown and church and the sort of libertarianism you teasappers pine for used to be called “Classical Liberalism”. But if fascism means love of war, military and violence and the willingness to use force to solve problems instead of more peaceful means, then the Right is more fascist these days.

  • jakester

    OxyCon said:
    Fear not my far-left extremist friends. Whenever Obama “acts” like a moderate, it’s merely a ruse to try to get some “bitter-clingers” to vote for him. But behind everyone’s backs and in secrecy, Obama is every bit the far-left radical extremist of your heart’s desire.

    This is coming from a crackpot whose avatar is Soros with an Obama hand puppet.

  • BruceGoose

    Remember that video of President Obama calming a baby last week? Bill Maher, the Huffington Post, Dan Choi, random Democrats and liberals who act like they don’t support the president anymore… are the baby.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/michelle-obama-hands-a-crying-baby-to-president-obama-baby-stops-crying/

  • news_junkie

    I think Maher is just a closet racist. I mean if you’re conservative and you’re against Obama’s policies, he brands you a racist. Guess it’s different if you’re a lib.

  • tegeagent007

    I don’t watch the show, if his panel say that Obama is not a leader, they’re right. He’s just another phony politician who care about nothing but re-election. For all you liberals, he’s supposed start nogotiating on the debt and deficit come Monday. Watch out, he’ll sell you out once again as he has done over and over again. Clinton was the last democrat with any gutts to take on the republicans.

  • seek

    jakester said:
    This is coming from a crackpot whose avatar is Soros with an Obama hand puppet.

    He’s pretty much figured it out and it bugs you doesn’t it?

  • seek

    BruceGoose said:
    Remember that video of President Obama calming a baby last week? Bill Maher, the Huffington Post, Dan Choi, random Democrats and liberals who act like they don’t support the president anymore… are the baby.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/michelle-obama-hands-a-crying-baby-to-president-obama-baby-stops-crying/

    p.s. the baby quit crying because he said to self “hey, I thought you were on the golf course imagine seeing you here – must be election time”!

  • MBW

    Obama has done the right thing by not “fighting” with Republicans all the time.

    He’s better off to just sit back and let the wingnuts show their rear-ends. Americans always *think* they want to vote Republican…..and then Republicans get in there and show everyone what they actually want to do…..and the American people change their minds every time.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    tegeagent007 said:
    Clinton was the last democrat with any gutts to take on the republicans.

    Clinton didn’t “take on the republicans.” He was famous for triangulation, remember? It was the only way he could get anything done with a Republican House that was out to IMPEACH him.

    –Cobra

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bill Maher To…Stanley Ann Dunham..: “Just Admit It, You Were Horny”

    That work for you , Maher ?

  • Alz

    jakester said:
    Please spare us your childish little label games. Right- Left, con- lib are relative and imprecise. Maher is not a fascist and the “Voice of Reason” is the “Voice of Right Wing Idiocy” if his low caliber brain feels otherwise. If you believe Maher is a fascist, then prove it or crawl back into your little survival bunker.

    Right wing originally meant crown and church and the sort of libertarianism you teasappers pine for used to be called “Classical Liberalism”. But if fascism means love of war, military and violence and the willingness to use force to solve problems instead of more peaceful means, then the Right is more fascist these days.

    So when I talk about you whine, but it’s okay for you.

    Regardless, the descriptions are important. We’re in the early stages of defining “liberalism” and, like any science”, it’s very important to come up with a nomenclature, etc.

    But let’s be clear, Fascism cannot be on the right. The Right is about limited government and individual freedom/responsibility. Fascism is about central control and limited freedoms.

  • njoy-d-ride

    Cobra said:
    I agree with the soldiers coming home…but if your conservative CEO friends stopped HIRING ILLEGALS they wouldn’t COME HERE.

    Sorry Cobra, but the CEO’s are hiring illegals because the investors want bigger dividends. Like it or not you can’t lump investors into one political group, they are all looking out for themselves.

    As for the illegal alien issue, I don’t think the AZ law has gotten a lot of liberal support.

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  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    njoy-d-ride said:
    Sorry Cobra, but the CEO’s are hiring illegals because the investors want bigger dividends. Like it or not you can’t lump investors into one political group, they are all looking out for themselves.

    As for the illegal alien issue, I don’t think the AZ law has gotten a lot of liberal support.

    That’s why the private sector is NOT the end all-be-all. They are only loyal to profit. The Arizona law is a racist joke, and that’s why it hasn’t gotten liberal support.

    –Cobra

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