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Frank Luntz Focus Group Mostly Agrees Obama’s Speech Fell Short Of Expectations

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Some polls indicate a positive response to President Obama’s State of the Union address, but not everyone was happy with the speech, especially not members of Frank Luntz‘s focus group on Fox News last night. Words like “empty,” “redundant,” and “platitudes” were used by some of the focus group members to describe their thoughts about the speech.

Sean Hannity declared the speech was “flat” without any “yes we can magic” and lacked any sense of urgency on debt or unemployment. Luntz asked his group for their opinion and warned “I don’t want you to feel under any pressure because of what Sean Hannity just said.” Although the panel is always half Republicans, half Democrats, the Obama bashers usually are the loudest and most humorous, as evidenced by one woman attempting to describe Obama’s speech with the first word that comes to mind: “Obama conflicting and Ryan was speaking just like every American I meet.” She might want to search for some more exciting Americans in her daily life.

Most agreed Obama fell short of their expectations and many did not believe Obama was sincere in his call for bipartisanship. Plus it’s always strangely fun to see Luntz sternly yell at his group when they speak over one another and to see him provide a summation of the group’s mood. The conclusion here from Luntz was that the speech failed to unite the country, since within his own group, the people were just as divided now as they were before the speech.

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  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    I love his focus groups! Everyday American’s from both sides of the isle. The guy you’re picturing was quite humorous.

  • The Real Royal King

    I’m shocked, shocked, I say, that a Luntz focus group on the O’Hannity Show would reach this conclusion. The only thing which would shock me more is to learn that Cub Scouts like ice cream.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    RRKING on youth . How I long to be a scout ! I would have loved to sell Girl Scout cookies in my neighborhood . But , alas , it never worked out .

  • hnmnf

    An Overwhelming amount of people who watched last nights speech according to instant polls liked it. Of course most of those people were Democrats. But that shows why Luntz Focus group AGAIN is off. Just about none of the Democrats liked his speech in his focus group…really? You may have the ditto heads of this site fooled, but not me.

  • skyfet

    You must be kidding! are you actually giving credibility to Luntz?

  • Harry Flashman

    Falling short of expectations is what Obama does best. Why change now?

  • huntingtonboy

    Luntz and Hannity ? Curly, Larry and Moe have more credibility.

  • Pablo

    I love the statement at 4:20. He’s done a great job bringing unemployment down!

  • Pablo

    skyfet said:
    You must be kidding! are you actually giving credibility to Luntz?

    Luntz is asking the questions, genius. Average people are giving the answers.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    hnmnf says:
    But that shows why Luntz Focus group AGAIN is off. Just about none of the Democrats liked his speech in his focus group…

    Yes but a portion of them voted for Obama. The point of the group isn’t to find some that like the speech and some that didn’t, it was to take a group some of which voted for McCain and some that voted for BO and talk to them. It’s not really that complicated.

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    hnmnf says:
    But that shows why Luntz Focus group AGAIN is off. Just about none of the Democrats liked his speech in his focus group…

    Yes but a portion of them voted for Obama. The point of the group isn’t to find some that like the speech and some that didn’t, it was to take a group some of which voted for McCain and some that voted for BO and talk to them. It’s not really that complicated.

    All I can say is: Is there a nail in my head?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Hmm, a CBS news poll showing the majority responded well or Frank Luntz’s undoubtedly pre-screened focus group? Who to trust? I’ll go with the trusted one.

  • paulmdoro

    A State of the Union address generated divided responses? Holy sh*t?! Alert the press!

  • Hugo Daun

    That “focus group” reminded me of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guuRVnVkmCA

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    hnmnf says:
    But that shows why Luntz Focus group AGAIN is off. Just about none of the Democrats liked his speech in his focus group…

    Yes but a portion of them voted for Obama. The point of the group isn’t to find some that like the speech and some that didn’t, it was to take a group some of which voted for McCain and some that voted for BO and talk to them. It’s not really that complicated.

    Why do you always have to disrespect the President by not saying his actual name and post things like “BO”? Don’t try to give me the “it’s his initials” crap either, you know perfectly well what you intended with that comment. Furthermore, I can say I voted for McCain or Obama but that doesn’t make it true. This should be taken with a grain of salt. However, I doubt that you will because it fits your narrative.

  • writer

    Anything less than the Sermon on the Mount is a disappointment.

  • skyfet

    Pablo said:
    Luntz is asking the questions, genius. Average people are giving the answers.

    Average, like yourself. Right!

  • ImNotBlue

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Why do you always have to disrespect the President by not saying his actual name and post things like “BO”? Don’t try to give me the “it’s his initials” crap either, you know perfectly well what you intended with that comment. Furthermore, I can say I voted for McCain or Obama but that doesn’t make it true. This should be taken with a grain of salt. However, I doubt that you will because it fits your narrative.

    So writing, “BO” is now offensive to you? Wow. Were you always this sensitive?

    I guess that means no more, “BOR” “KO” “RM” or “GWB” either. No more “Reps” “Dems,” “Cons” or… “Libs.”

    Is that right, The_Reasonable_Lib…………….. hey wait a minute………. “LIB” You’ve got “LIB” right there in your name!

    I’M OFFENDED!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    UNreasonable lib says:

    Why do you always have to disrespect the President by not saying his actual name and post things like “BO”?

    It wasn’t meant to be disrespectful, I’m just trying to multitask and was trying to save time. You’re just looking for something to jump on me about. I don’t think I will bite today.

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    It wasn’t meant to be disrespectful, I’m just trying to multitask and was trying to save time.

    Unadulterated BS, Michelle-in-Utah. Why can’t you be honest about even this?

  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    Anything less than the Sermon on the Mount is a disappointment.

    But, I haven’t seen much evidence that anyone likes the Sermon on the Mount. Sure, it reads well, by the ideas in it seem so inconvenient for most Americans.

  • writer

    “by the ideas in it seem so inconvenient”

  • notsofast

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    and post things like “BO”? Don’t try to give me the “it’s his initials” crap either

    So his initals are not BO?

    Wow- stop the presses.

    Is BO yet another another word you libs have defined as a “code” word?

    Let’s see, BHO was a community organizer- zap, suddenly “community organizer” is a code word. McCain asks the question who voted for a certain bill, and points to BHO and says “That one” and suddenly “that one” becomes a well known “code ” reference.

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King said:
    Unadulterated BS, Michelle-in-Utah. Why can’t you be honest about even this?

    Says the guy who gives out nick-names, like an angry waiter hands out bread knives… fast, furious, and without a point.

    Ba-dum.

  • writer

    The King goes to church.

  • skyfet

    notsofast said:
    Is BO yet another another word you libs have defined as a “code” word?

    Why are you stuttering? did you the cat bite your tongue?

  • notsofast

    When MSNBC’s Dem shill Andrea Mitchell says the speech wasn’t good, you know it was really flat.

    ANDREA MITCHELL: As much as I like civility and don’t want to be the person sitting here and saying, oh, let’s have a raucous State of the Union–you certainly don’t want a ‘you lie!’ moment–but it did lack energy. It lacked passion.

    MITCHELL: The problem that I have with it is the flip side of that: which is, that it doesn’t add up. That the dollars and cents don’t add up. And when you fact-check it, when he’s talking about increasing our exports, he’s really recycling something that he said last year. He’s not explaining how to do it, how is that going to happen, nor is he explaining how he’s going to take away the subsidies from the oil companies. That’s something that he also proposed in the past. There’s no path from A to B.

  • notsofast

    But I must say, that there was one big improvement in this year’s SOTU speech. We didn’t have to watch the terribly over botoxed, harlequin- looking , “Whac-A-Mole” acting Nancy Pelosi jumping up and down after every word BHO said.

  • paulmdoro

    Oh my god! Andrea Mitchell didn’t get tingles in her leg?! Whatever am I to do?! How will I go on?! Each and every night I wait for her to tell me what to think. I am crushed.

  • notsofast

    skyfet said:
    Why are you stuttering? did you the cat bite your tongue?

    Yes I did stutter, you ahole, ahole!

  • beamangrow

    YOU expected him to be in detail? in a speach?
    wow

  • beamangrow

    since when is ohannity or franky boy has any credibility

  • The Real Royal King

    ImNotBlue said:
    Says the guy who gives out nick-names, like an angry waiter hands out bread knives… fast, furious, and without a point.

    Ba-dum.

    Now, Kumquat, don’t get prickly.

    writer said:
    The King goes to church.

    Now, Kumquat, don’t get prickly.

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    RRKING on youth . How I long to be a scout ! I would have loved to sell Girl Scout cookies in my neighborhood . But , alas , it never worked out .

    Now, Kumquat ….

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    beamangrow says:
    January 26, 2011 at 12:31 pm beamangrow(Quote)
    1 5
    YOU expected him to be in detail? in a speach?
    wow

    beamangrow says:
    January 26, 2011 at 12:43 pm beamangrow(Quote)
    1 5
    since when is ohannity or franky boy has any credibility

    Oh self-appointment Royal Spelling and Grammar Czar, will you please critique these two comments? I think he needs your assistance.

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King said:
    Now, Kumquat, don’t get prickly. Now, Kumquat, don’t get prickly. Now, Kumquat ….

    Uh-oh… looks like Royal is broken.

    Apparently, everyone is a “kumquat” now. Although, I still don’t quite grasp why a kumquat is a negative thing.

    Shouts Royal: “KUMQUATS… THEY’RE ALL AROUND ME! KUMQUATS EVERYWHERE! AHHHHHH!”

    I think you need a vacation.

  • Pablo

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Why do you always have to disrespect the President by not saying his actual name and post things like “BO”? Don’t try to give me the “it’s his initials” crap either, you know perfectly well what you intended with that comment. Furthermore, I can say I voted for McCain or Obama but that doesn’t make it true. This should be taken with a grain of salt. However, I doubt that you will because it fits your narrative.

    You must have hated all those people with “My BO” accounts.

  • VoiceofReason

    skyfet said:
    Why are you stuttering? did you the cat bite your tongue?

    Dude……..anyone who conveys their ideas in as poor a fashion as you do has ZERO room to call into question anyone elses comunication methods or skills.

    Finish your ESL classes and then get back to us.

  • chucken

    Hey Matt Schneider did you go to the same college as Sean Hannity to study journalism?(Which is none)Every real news outlet identifies Frank Luntz for what he is.A REPUBLICAN POLLSTER!! Paid by the GOP to spin issues and Hannity is a GOP toadie that is beyond dispute.This was a hand picked group that Luntz and Hannity and Fox knew what the response would be.Phony TV again on Fox

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Hey chucken, did you even watch the focus group? If some of them weren’t Obama lovers then they deserve Oscars.

  • NORBIT

    “Frank Luntz Focus Group Mostly Agrees Obama’s Speech Fell Short Of Expectations”

    - as did his whole PRESIDENCY!

    That’s what happens when you wallow in DECEIT and SUBTERFUGE!

  • The Real Royal King

    I sometimes wonder if after the show O’Hannity and Luntz make fudge, have tickle fights and wash each other’s wigs.

  • paulmdoro

    VoiceofReason said:
    Dude……..anyone who conveys their ideas in as poor a fashion as you do has ZERO room to call into question anyone elses comunication methods or skills.

    Finish your ESL classes and then get back to us.

    How come you only criticize the other side? Where’s the voice of reason so desperately needed here?

  • Color Me Badd

    Why is Mediaite giving any attention to Frank Luntz’s Focus Groups which have been been proven to be fake. Many of these “average citizens” are actors who have been seen in other stuff. You know about this right?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Color me Ignorant, can you provide a link that says the focus group is composed actors? I’d be interested in that.

  • ImNotBlue

    Color Me Badd said:
    Why is Mediaite giving any attention to Frank Luntz’s Focus Groups which have been been proven to be fake. Many of these “average citizens” are actors who have been seen in other stuff. You know about this right?

    I’m going to agree with Window on this one… sure would love to see that evidence.

  • paulmdoro

    I tried finding something to support the claim that the focus groups are comprised of actors and a fraud. All I could find was a story about how the same guy is in two separate groups and how that can’t be a coincidence.

    Really, though, people put way too much stock in these things and should relax. It’s a just a single focus group. It’s not a big deal.

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Color me Ignorant

    You are using that phrase a good deal. Might I suggest some variety:

    Roll Me Over in the Clover!

    Slap My Cheek and Call Me Gertrude!

    Well Drop My Pants and Pick Up My Skirt!

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    writer said:
    The King goes to church.

    He is the KING of THUMBS DOWN.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Once again, Royal Pain in the Butt tries his hand at comedy and is an EPIC FAILURE!!

  • The Real Royal King

    paulmdoro said:
    I tried finding something to support the claim that the focus groups are comprised of actors and a fraud. All I could find was a story about how the same guy is in two separate groups and how that can’t be a coincidence.

    Really, though, people put way too much stock in these things and should relax. It’s a just a single focus group. It’s not a big deal.

    That is pretty amusing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BDvfAf2c4

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    I think you are reaching, Royal Pain in the Butt. He’s called in Independent voter both times. Is there anything to prove he’s indeed an actor and not an average Independent Voter? Just because he was part of 2 focus groups doesn’t make him a fraud.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Oh and King, what about those people that praised Obama. Are they frauds also, or is it only the ones who don’t think he walks on water that are the frauds?

  • The Lantern of Truth

    The Real Royal King said:
    I sometimes wonder if after the show O’Hannity and Luntz make fudge, have tickle fights and wash each other’s wigs.

    RRKING dishes . How droll . After a hard day at the salon , we do not wash each other ‘ s toupees . They are Martinized by our chum Martin next door . We do not eat fudge ! Strictly air popped popcorn . We watch each other ‘ s weight . And that ‘ s a big job . As for tickle fights ? They are fun , it ‘ s true !

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    I wish my stalker was as funny as Kings.

  • Color Me Badd

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    I wish my stalker was as funny as Kings.

    me too.

  • CAconservative

    I found the divide among racial lines in this Focus-Group, very interesting, and telling. Blacks want this guy to be the best, and will defend him even when they know what he’s trying to do is not working. Their belief in him as their personal representative and hero is falling far short of their expectations. Blacks are slowly learning that Obimbo is about, Obimbo. Although he will garner the Black majority in the 2012 election, I’d guess it will fall short of the numbers he had in 2008.

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    I think you are reaching, Royal Pain in the Butt. He’s called in Independent voter both times. Is there anything to prove he’s indeed an actor and not an average Independent Voter? Just because he was part of 2 focus groups doesn’t make him a fraud.

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Oh and King, what about those people that praised Obama. Are they frauds also, or is it only the ones who don’t think he walks on water that are the frauds?

    All the Marys in Heaven, are you some paranoiac, psychotic woman, or what. I never said the clip was a fraud or represented a fraudulent undertaking. I said it was amusing. Geez!

  • paulmdoro

    CAconservative said:
    I found the divide among racial lines in this Focus-Group, very interesting, and telling. Blacks want this guy to be the best, and will defend him even when they know what he’s trying to do is not working. Their belief in him as their personal representative and hero is falling far short of their expectations. Blacks are slowly learning that Obimbo is about, Obimbo. Although he will garner the Black majority in the 2012 election, I’d guess it will fall short of the numbers he had in 2008.

    Your political analysis skills are lacking. This is one focus group and hardly represents all of black America or all of America. Don’t make it more important than it is. And it’s way too early to suggest that he will lose some of the black vote in 2012. You can certainly dream though.

  • The Real Royal King

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    RRKING dishes . How droll . After a hard day at the salon , we do not wash each other ‘ s toupees . They are Martinized by our chum Martin next door . We do not eat fudge ! Strictly air popped popcorn . We watch each other ‘ s weight . And that ‘ s a big job . As for tickle fights ? They are fun , it ‘ s true !

    A learned man would use “drôle”.

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    I wish my stalker was as funny as Kings.

    Why? You don’t even any sense of humour. None at all. Not a trace.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Royal Pain in the Butt, the people who REALLY know me know that couldn’t be further from the truth. But carry on in your ignorant assumption.

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King said:
    Why? You don’t even any sense of humour. None at all. Not a trace.

    Still have no problem with 20l2′s bigotry. How surprising.

    Or not.

  • VoiceofReason

    paulmdoro said:
    How come you only criticize the other side? Where’s the voice of reason so desperately needed here?

    I guess you are still butt hurt over me calling you out huh? Maybe you are pushing up against the “me thinks the lady doth protest too much?” at this point? I let it go in other threads cuz your delicate sensibilities must of gotten hurt but now if you plan to follow me around and share you butt hurtness incessantly I will withdraw my appology and we can progress from there.

    I have said I am sorry how many times?

    Whatever the number….this is THE last time.

    Now…are you taking up for his comments? Or as I, do you find him an offacious ass who trolls through offering little in the way of substance and much in bullshit? All the while spelling with the proficiency of a serial killer and hell bent on calling each and every person not in agreement retarded of some sort.

    I would think anyone fronting to be a erudite as you would find his atrocious spelling and grammar laced tirades against others communication skills laughable at best.

    So help me out here…..butt hurt or agreement with his screed? If neither offer another.

    I wait with baited breath…………

  • paulmdoro

    Butt hurt? What? I am not hurt. Far from it. And I didn’t realize you apologized, and today was the first time I’ve seen a post of yours since the day you “called me out.”

    I feel the same way you do, for what it’s worth. I am not “fronting” anything either. Just having a laugh Voice of Reason. I suppose tone is tough to convey and detect without using a smiley face or something but I am not a fan.

  • CAconservative

    PALMDORO:

    I would have agreed with you if the divide had only happened in this one group but, the divide has been constant in all the focus-groups. This particular group was only different in the respect that a few Blacks agreed with the majority. Will he loose allot of Black votes? Probably not but, if future focus-groups exhibit this trend we may see a less than lopsided Black vote.

  • Nacho

    The fact that Hannity frequently uses Luntz is just more proof that Hannity is a lying POS molester.

  • Nacho
  • Hugo Daun

    Nacho said:
    The fact that Hannity frequently uses Luntz is just more proof that Hannity is a lying POS molester.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4

    Don’t know about the “molester” part, but the rest of your comment DEFINITELY applies to Hannity and Luntz.

    And thanks for the excellent clip of Penn and Teller exposing Luntz as the douche-bag he truly is.

  • Nacho

    Definition of MOLEST
    transitive verb

    1: to annoy, disturb, or persecute especially with hostile intent or injurious effect

  • Morgan

    Matt Schneider wrote:> Most agreed Obama fell short of their expectations….

    What makes that funny is that no one had any expectations.

  • Hugo Daun

    Nacho said:
    Definition of MOLEST
    transitive verb

    1: to annoy, disturb, or persecute especially with hostile intent or injurious effect

    Touché…Hannity and Luntz both certainly meet this particular definition.

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