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Glenn Beck Offers Solutions For Egypt After Inexplicably Opening Show In A Cape

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Yesterday we asked whether or not Glenn Beck had any solutions to go along with his unsettling theories on the current upheaval in Egypt. Today, he gave them (don’t worry, we won’t take credit). But first, for some reason, he dressed up like a wizard or Moses or a Renaissance Faire guest or something. We didn’t ask for that but, if we knew it was an option, we totally would have.

We’ll skip the wizard outfit (since, really, that image speaks for itself) and dive into the solutions which we got some of here and Beck promised we’d get more of down the road. They came in the form of a panel of guests who all are experts on the region, Islam, or the economy as well as being old friends of Beck’s. (Interesting side note: whenever Beck brings on a guest, have you ever noticed that there’s a 50% chance he’ll tell a story about the first time they met?).

Letting his guests speak first, hey all agreed that we it would be dangerous to get in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood, though Dr. Zhudi Jassar of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy stressed that it would be counterproductive to suppress to Brotherhood’s rights. Next Beck gave his thoughts, which you will have to watch below to see for yoursellf.

Yes, so Beck gave solutions. We’ll leave it up to you to debate whether or not they were useful. We will say, however, that the cape at the beginning was brilliant, even if he never explained why he chose to open his show with staff and cape. But if any of Beck’s critics fall into the clear trap of reporting on the goofy costume in the first few minutes of the show and not the substance in the last few minutes, you can be sure that Beck will be ready to pounce.

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  • grafxmail7

    Come on Chicken Little Beck rodeo clown wannbes. Your Dear Leader has spoken!

    Fall in line like the robots you are with your talking points!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Feldman/1158574704 Josh Feldman

    Behold! Gandalf the EXTREMELY White!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Kaib/1091662620 Josh Kaib

    He was imitating Yoda from Star Wars.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    The protestors across the Middle East are being imbued with ANTI-ISRAEL, Anti-AMERICAN, vitriol from Iran, Al Qaeda., the Muslim Brotherhood, and Progressive Democrats; and all Glenn Beck does is point this out – DEMONSTRABLY, ON VIDEO!

    If you find something awry in his analyses, then refute it! – don’t act like a dysfunctional juvenile, with only name-calling!

    You got the goods? Then bring it on.
    I’m sure Glenn would be happy to debate.

  • BFD

    LOL at Beck having to open his last two shows explaining he’s not a lunatic or a scare-mongerer.

    Not a good sign.

  • BFD

    I’m curious, has Australia been taken over by the Chinese yet?

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    BFD said:
    LOL at Beck having to open his last two shows explaining he’s not a lunatic or a scare-mongerer. Not a good sign.

    How’d Olbermann open his last two?

  • The Tea Weasel

    Maybe Beck has come to lead the Chicken Little Gang out of the Valley of the Liberals, to the Promised Land, when gold coins and seed packets grow on trees and all the TV’s only have one channel…..

    Methinks NORBIT is packing to follow.

  • nice_thought

    I feel sympathy fo his viewers who come here to defend beck. I have no idea how the journalists at fox news feel about the work of this nutjob. And glenn beck loyalists, the joke is on you idiots.

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    One interesting little snippet came when one of Beck’s guests described Egypt and Tunisia as very dry places that therefore had problems producing food.

    “You could say that about Mexico” said Glenn, one assumes, attempting to increase the fear of revolution in our southern neighbor (which BTW produces increasing amounts of food for the US).

    Of course, “dry” is an accurate description of northern Mexico, in much the same way as it is an accurate description of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and south California. It is about as off the mark as one can get to describe the rest of Mexico which includes arable land, rain forest and jungle all the way down to the border with Guatemala and Belize.

    A mistake here, a mistake there, after awhile it begins to add up.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    nice_thought said:
    I feel sympathy fo his viewers who come here to defend beck. I have no idea how the journalists at fox news feel about the work of this nutjob. And glenn beck loyalists, the joke is on you idiots.

    Still waiting for an intelligible and germane rebuttal to any of Beck’s postulates.
    I don’t quite think “nutjob” and “idiots” quite rises to that standard.

  • nice_thought

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    The protestors across the Middle East are being imbued with ANTI-ISRAEL, Anti-AMERICAN, vitriol from Iran, Al Qaeda., the Muslim Brotherhood, and Progressive Democrats; and all Glenn Beck does is point this out – DEMONSTRABLY, ON VIDEO!

    If you find something awry in his analyses, then refute it! – don’t act like a dysfunctional juvenile, with only name-calling!

    You got the goods? Then bring it on.
    I’m sure Glenn would be happy to debate.

    Eff off old man. There are bad people everywhere. Only the lunatics make it look larger than life. Like he did with that video of protest where they talk about lynching the supreme court justice. We already know, thanks to Tommy C, the guy behind the video used the word lynching first and then all the protestors went o dine with your beloved Andrew brietbart. What u saying, you hero Andrew is palling with terrorists?

  • Probably NOT wrong

    At least give Beck credit for the thousands of jobs he has created
    in the Laundry and Dry Cleaning Industry.
    He has all you lefty Nut Sacks soiling your underwear two or three
    time each day especially during radio and TV shows.
    Then laughs all the way to the bank!
    You can’t make this up!!!!! LMAO

  • valkyrie101

    The man is a genius. Funny as hell.

  • valkyrie101

    But he intends to deliver his chosen to the promised land.

  • tiredofbs

    If Glenn was an idiot & insignificant lunatic, you lefty pond scummers wouldn’t reserve such
    perverse & depraved hatred ..Like rabid dogs showing teeth at the mere mention
    of Glenn Beck & Sarah Palin.. Transparent foolish hate mongers.
    WE TAKE YOUR HATE AS A BADGE OF HONOR!
    Gig’s up & u know it thanks to Glenn,, that ticks u off doesn’t it?? Tough poops.
    The very same (not) enlightened intellectually superior, peace loving hippies as in:
    (see below)

    The rally, which was sponsored by leftist’s organizations, including Code Pink, had attendees making violent and racists threats against a Fox Execs, a Supreme Court justice, and Glenn.
    ********************
    “They’re calling for revolution. *****The people in the crowd are saying that Clarence Thomas should have all of his fingers and toes cut off and fed to him,**** that Roger Ailes should be hung, *****
    ******that I should be gunned down,******* that Clarence Thomas should be put out in the fields,****** that Scalia should be sent back to [Sicily],” Glenn said.

    “And it’s not just one person. It’s several people. All white.”

    “ So you have this real rage and real hate. And remember, this is what Frances Fox Piven is saying: Find your rage, find your anger, blame it on your boss, blame it on the capitalist system. This is what’s being fomented right now.”

  • The Tea Weasel

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    Still waiting for an intelligible and germane rebuttal to any of Beck’s postulates.
    I don’t quite think “nutjob” and “idiots” quite rises to that standard.

    If you think I am going to waste my time actually LISTENING to Wackjob McNutty, then you truly belong in the Mighty Chicken Little Army. My comment is all based on what I know of Beck and his current mode of dress.

  • ProgLib

    That’s a lot of chalk boards, reminds of this discussion http://www.amazon.com/Mountain-Three-Wolf-Short-Sleeve/product-reviews/B002HJ377A

  • Grammie

    nice_thought said:
    We already know, thanks to Tommy C, the guy behind the video used the word lynching first and then all the protestors went o dine with your beloved Andrew brietbart

    .
    We do?

    Please point me to that b/c I seem to have missed it. A link for your convenience.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/conservative-activist-encourages-violent-rhetoric-at-koch-brothers-protest/

  • Dsiscokid

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlq4nFMJiQQ&feature=player_embedded#

    Watch for yourselves. In their own words………

  • Dsiscokid

    Who’s running who? Are the Communists running the MB or the other way around? Thoughts?

  • ProgLib

    “we have to educate ourself”

  • Hugo Daun

    ProgLib said:
    “we have to educate ourself”

    Rather reminiscent of this:

    “Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?”

    Good times…

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    The Tea Weasel said:
    If you think I am going to waste my time actually LISTENING to Wackjob McNutty, then you truly belong in the Mighty Chicken Little Army. My comment is all based on what I know of Beck and his current mode of dress.

    Thank you for making my point.

  • ProgLib

    Beck just called himself christian, thought he was a mormon? I’d like to know what the baptists and catholics think of Moroni

  • Socialist

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    The protestors across the Middle East are being imbued with ANTI-ISRAEL, Anti-AMERICAN, vitriol from Iran, Al Qaeda., the Muslim Brotherhood, and Progressive Democrats; and all Glenn Beck does is point this out – DEMONSTRABLY, ON VIDEO!

    Definately not.. We have been supporting monarchies and dictatorships suppressing Islam and this is what we get. You can’t have government suppression of extremism and just hope that there would be no more uprisings because uprisings will be more stronger and much more deadly. Its like Keynesian economics.

    they hate us because we are there, taking their oil and telling them what to do. Another main reason is economy.. when you have more than 20% unemployment, you expect people to just be quiet and not do anything? And this will somewhat mix with Islam to an extent, and it will be a bit problematic.

    There are a few ways of supporting Isreal and securing its existence, but getting in Middle East, and policing the whole region isn’t one of them, and that’s what we have been doing. This is the reason Iran still exists. Once we are gone from that region, then no one will buy their IED’s or support their existence. Look at the leaked documents – Everyone in Middle East hates Iran and this isn’t something we didn’t know before..

  • nice_thought

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    Still waiting for an intelligible and germane rebuttal to any of Beck’s postulates.
    I don’t quite think “nutjob” and “idiots” quite rises to that standard.

    There is a simple solution grandpa. build a cage and hide your gold with all your family in there. Because, next year it’s all muslim’s rule. And I have heard the gay muslims all read Koran while they violate you under the new gay-sharia law. Hurry.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    GOP can CRUSH the Democrats on ENERGY! – Especially if the Mid-East is in flux.

    From every angle:

    - Phony Science
    - Green Jobs YEARS Away
    - hurts the poor the most
    - Hypocrisy – we don’t drill, but we buy from Hugo, who has a different commitment to “green”
    - Taking $$$ away from Brutal Theocracies

    There’s SO much upside to the GOP going after the Dems & their Environmentalist PuppetMasters…I’ll bet the public is with the GOP position on this 80%!

  • nice_thought

    Grammie said:
    .
    We do?

    Please point me to that b/c I seem to have missed it. A link for your convenience.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/conservative-activist-encourages-violent-rhetoric-at-koch-brothers-protest/

    I believe you when you say you missed it. Gotta keep it up with 12 hours of beck-hannity-limbaugh. Watch that video again and this time ask your grandson to play the video for you. All this technologies and stuffs might have confused you, grammie.

  • Dsiscokid

    Socialist said:
    There are a few ways of supporting Isreal and securing its existence, but getting in Middle East, and policing the whole region isn’t one of them, and that’s what we have been doing.

    Any ideas how we can do that? I don’t want to be involved in another nations business, but we are about the ONLY friend of Israel

  • corplin

    <<<<>>> Have you evee seen Beck debate anyone? If so please tell me who and when, thank you.

  • notsofast

    ProgLib said:
    Beck just called himself christian, thought he was a mormon?

    Wow- are you stupid, son. what ? You confused that Catholics call themselves Christians too?

    LOL

  • corplin

    I’m sure Glen would be happy to debate—–A Beck Debate??—- Have you evee seen Beck debate anyone? If so please tell me who and when, or at least about what—– thank you.

  • notsofast

    Now that KO is gone, the only place to see FOX shows if ya missed ‘em is on Mediaite. Thanks boys!

  • kvon

    notsofast said:
    Wow- are you stupid, son. what ? You confused that Catholics call themselves Christians too?

    LOL

    Actually, Mormons aren’t Christians. In Christianity a belief in God and Jesus as his son and as savior is all that is needed to go to heaven. For Mormons you need to be baptized, (for males) go on a mission, get married in a temple and path tithing throughout your life.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Socialist said:
    Definately not.. We have been supporting monarchies and dictatorships suppressing Islam and this is what we get. You can’t have government suppression of extremism and just hope that there would be no more uprisings because uprisings will be more stronger and much more deadly. Its like Keynesian economics. they hate us because we are there, taking their oil and telling them what to do. Another main reason is economy.. when you have more than 20% unemployment, you expect people to just be quiet and not do anything? And this will somewhat mix with Islam to an extent, and it will be a bit problematic. There are a few ways of supporting Isreal and securing its existence, but getting in Middle East, and policing the whole region isn’t one of them, and that’s what we have been doing. This is the reason Iran still exists. Once we are gone from that region, then no one will buy their IED’s or support their existence. Look at the leaked documents – Everyone in Middle East hates Iran and this isn’t something we didn’t know before..

    Nice post.
    I agree with just about all you said; but on a whole other level, do we have some moral obligation to go beyond the Pragmatic in seeking the better good – that is bringing Freedom (not just democracy!) to a suppressed people?

    I’d say we do, but have been doing it in totally ineffective ways.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    What’s wrong with Beck’s community? Why does it need to be restored and if it’s in such bad shape, why doesn’t he move somewhere else? Limbaugh does his show from Florida and Palin is usually in Alaska, if Connecticut is such a cesspool, perhaps he should go to Spokane.

  • nice_thought

    notsofast said:
    Now that KO is gone, the only place to see FOX shows if ya missed ‘em is on Mediaite. Thanks boys!

    True, there is so less news in fox news, nobody else quotes them.

  • grafxmail7

    Who cares about what Chicken Little Beck thinks! He’s a rodeo clown. His opinions don’t matter. I don’t think Obama is going to be listening to this snake oil salesman on world affairs anytime soon.
    The point of the article is Chicken Little Beck said he was going to come up with ‘solutions’ and now he’s reacting to Mediaite (they say they’re not taking credit for it, but we know this is the reason) calling him out on it and he’s reacting.
    What he says is irrelevant in so many ways. What’s relevant is the fact that people believe him and defend him and come here to express it. The real story is about these people. The true believers. These people are entertainment!

    Let the stupidity began Chicken Little Beck followers!

  • Jerps

    Actually Mormons are Christians. They have Jesus Christ at the center of the church, officially named The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If they’re not your cup o’ Christian, that’s fine, but it’s their right to define themselves how they wish.

    If you want to see Beck debate someone, you can go back to clips from his HLN show. I remember he had Sharpton on once.

  • Jackyboy

    You guys aren’t taking credit for the fact that yesterday you asked for solutions and today he gave em? I would totally take credit for that.

  • The Dweller Ysul

    What’s really hilarious is a couple days after making a national laughingstock of himself with that domino theory whereby New Zealand goes to the Chinese, & the Russians get the Netherlands, he brings on to his show today three dudes who each dutifully make it point to say that, “no, no, Glenn, you were 100% correct.” Who are these face-lickers, you ask?

    Well, one is Joel Rosenberg, Bible prophecy magnate, who kept saying that the only solution to the problems in the Middle East is, get this, Jesus Christ. Yeah, the forced conversion of a billion Muslims to Christianity, that would certainly turn down the heat in the area. Hell, that’d probably scare the shit out the Israelis. Whackadoodle number two was Damon Vickers, Alex Jones’s buddy, and author of “The Day after the Dollar Collapses.” Indeed, both Vickers and Rosenberg have sold trainloads of their books to the Moron Nation. (The third guest I didn’t know, but he actually seemed quite sane; in fact, he was super-sane, comparatively.)

    So, to combat the charge that he’s peddling in conspiracy theories, what does the Professor think it wise to do? Trot out other conspiracy theorists. I thought I was being sucked into the TV, such was the lunatic singularity. I think it was the sanity of the third guy, who was Muslim, that saved me.

  • Grammie

    nice_thought said:
    I believe you when you say you missed it. Gotta keep it up with 12 hours of beck-hannity-limbaugh. Watch that video again and this time ask your grandson to play the video for you. All this technologies and stuffs might have confused you, grammie.

    .
    Now I understand. You are all about wild claims and accusations.

    Proof or evidence, not so much, Or more accurately, not at all.

  • Grammie

    notsofast said:
    ProgLib said:
    Beck just called himself christian, thought he was a mormon?

    Wow- are you stupid, son. what ? You confused that Catholics call themselves Christians too?

    LOL

    .
    Confused, yes.

    Confused about this, no.

    That was just his bigotry shining through!

  • notsofast

    kvon said:
    Actually, Mormons aren’t Christians. In Christianity a belief in God and Jesus as his son and as savior is all that is needed to go to heaven. For Mormons you need to be baptized, (for males) go on a mission, get married in a temple and path tithing throughout your life.

    Son, I mean really, this is really pathetic on your part!

    A Christian is someone who believes in the teachings of Christ and believes Jesus was the Messiah.

    Certain denominations have certain different beliefs or practices , but Christians believe that Jesus Christ was God.

  • notsofast

    nice_thought said:
    True, there is so less news in fox news, nobody else quotes them.

    Only Mediaite and all MSNBC hosts, son and I don’t see ANYONE quoting MSNBC!

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Jerps said:
    Actually Mormons are Christians. They have Jesus Christ at the center of the church, officially named The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If they’re not your cup o’ Christian, that’s fine, but it’s their right to define themselves how they wish.

    If you want to see Beck debate someone, you can go back to clips from his HLN show. I remember he had Sharpton on once.

    I never though I’d hear the day where Christians compare a religion about magical pants to their own.

    All religion is unbelievable but magical underpants? …

    So Glenn Beck doesn’t believe in global warming but he believes in magic pants.

    I think it’s time to call it a day -_-

  • nice_thought

    “what should we do after we lynch justice thomas?” asks the giggling “journalist” at the start of that video. You don’t have to google it, just look for it in the columnist section of mediaite, you will see.

    And I doubt it but for once you might learn to admit mistakes, which you lord Glenn seldom does.

  • Dsiscokid

    kvon said:
    Actually, Mormons aren’t Christians. In Christianity a belief in God and Jesus as his son and as savior is all that is needed to go to heaven. For Mormons you need to be baptized, (for males) go on a mission, get married in a temple and path tithing throughout your life.

    True. Mormons also heed The Book of Mormon and another book (Standards and Practices, I believe)

  • nice_thought

    notsofast said:
    Only Mediaite and all MSNBC hosts, son and I don’t see ANYONE quoting MSNBC!

    Was I defending MSNBC? u better find a new excuse.

  • Dsiscokid

    Jerps said:
    Actually Mormons are Christians. They have Jesus Christ at the center of the church, officially named The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If they’re not your cup o’ Christian, that’s fine, but it’s their right to define themselves how they wish.

    7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
    8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    Galatians 1:7-10

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    notsofast said:
    Son, I mean really, this is really pathetic on your part!

    A Christian is someone who believes in the teachings of Christ and believes Jesus was the Messiah.

    Certain denominations have certain different beliefs or practices , but Christians believe that Jesus Christ was God.

    There can’t be several versions of the truth…

  • Grammie

    nice_thought said:
    “what should we do after we lynch justice thomas?” asks the giggling “journalist” at the start of that video. You don’t have to google it, just look for it in the columnist section of mediaite, you will see.

    And I doubt it but for once you might learn to admit mistakes, which you lord Glenn seldom does.

    .
    Would you like to borrow my hearing aid so you can hear what was actually said?

    He said, so what do we do after we “IMPEACH” Clarence Thomas?

    Let me conclude with this:

    nice_thought said:
    And I doubt it but for once you might learn to admit mistakes, which you lord Glenn seldom does.

  • Dsiscokid

    Snowspot said:
    There can’t be several versions of the truth…

    John 14:6
    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

  • Garth

    Is this where Glenn believes he is Moses, has his burning bush moment and has his eyesight restored?

  • Dsiscokid

    Garth said:
    Is this where Glenn believes he is Moses, has his burning bush moment and has his eyesight restored?

    I doubt it

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Dsiscokid said:
    John 14:6
    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    but what if someone else that believes in Jesus said that quote with a different meaning?

  • Dsiscokid

    Snowspot said:
    but what if someone else that believes in Jesus said that quote with a different meaning?

    Such as?…..

  • Jerps

    BTW, looks pretty clear like he’s dressed as Yoda, based on his words.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Dsiscokid said:
    Such as?…..

    I’m just saying you don’t get to change what Jesus said and create a new religion and say that you’re Christian. Mormons aren’t Christians. Unless you’re going to redefine Christian.

  • OxyCon

    nice_thought said:
    Eff off old man. There are bad people everywhere. Only the lunatics make it look larger than life. Like he did with that video of protest where they talk about lynching the supreme court justice. We already know, thanks to Tommy C, the guy behind the video used the word lynching first and then all the protestors went o dine with your beloved Andrew brietbart.

    Tommy Christopher should feel so proud of his “journalistic” work.
    Mission accomplished there Tommeh!
    Not so smart people are using your “product” to make excuses for disgusting behavior from your far-leftist friends, which was your intention all along, wasn’t it?

  • Socialist

    Dsiscokid said:
    Any ideas how we can do that? I don’t want to be involved in another nations business, but we are about the ONLY friend of Israel

    ehh not really Turkey is an ally.. Well that whole flotilla thing happened.. Trust me They have more allies than we think they have.

  • Garth

    Dsiscokid said:
    I doubt it

    Okay, then he missed Halloween by a few months. Either that or he’s nuts. I’m just saying.

  • Dsiscokid

    Snowspot said:
    but what if someone else that believes in Jesus said that quote with a different meaning?

    4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    Matt. 24:4-5

    25Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me.
    26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
    27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
    29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
    30I and my Father are one.
    John 10:25-30

  • Dsiscokid

    Snowspot said:
    I’m just saying you don’t get to change what Jesus said and create a new religion and say that you’re Christian. Mormons aren’t Christians. Unless you’re going to redefine Christian.

    Agreed.

  • Garth

    Dsiscokid said:
    4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    Matt. 24:4-5

    25Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me.
    26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
    27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
    29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
    30I and my Father are one.
    John 10:25-30

    On yer knees people. It’s time to pray to Glenn.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Dsiscokid said:
    4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    Matt. 24:4-5

    25Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me.
    26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
    27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
    29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
    30I and my Father are one.
    John 10:25-30

    Speaking in scripture really doesn’t lend itself to debate, at least follow up your quotes with some explanation of your thought process. We aren’t mind-readers.

  • grafxmail7

    Man! There are a bunch of the followers reciting scripture. What’s up with that?

    You Chicken Little Beck true believers think that if you quote scripture it makes you ‘more’ correct with your ideas when you defend your Dear Leader.

    Why don’t you quote scripture that deals with false apostles?

  • Dsiscokid

    Socialist said:
    ehh not really Turkey is an ally.. Well that whole flotilla thing happened.. Trust me They have more allies than we think they have.

    Open allies or just though diplomatic channels I wonder? And with Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

  • nice_thought

    Grammie said:
    .
    Would you like to borrow my hearing aid so you can hear what was actually said?

    He said, so what do we do after we “IMPEACH” Clarence Thomas?

    Let me conclude with this:

    Impeach…. Lynch… What’s the difference? Haha. I’m sorry, should have listened carefully. My bad

  • Socialist

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    GOP can CRUSH the Democrats on ENERGY! – Especially if the Mid-East is in flux.

    From every angle:

    - Phony Science
    - Green Jobs YEARS Away
    - hurts the poor the most
    - Hypocrisy – we don’t drill, but we buy from Hugo, who has a different commitment to “green”
    - Taking $$$ away from Brutal Theocracies

    There’s SO much upside to the GOP going after the Dems & their Environmentalist PuppetMasters…I’ll bet the public is with the GOP position on this 80%!

    How long are we going to go on Oil? I mean we are not the only ones looking for oil in the Arctic. Russia is there before us and many other countries will start drilling there or layign their hands in that area. At this point we are just extracting every last drop of oil we can get. and that will lead to conflict.

    And green tech isn’t that far away.. It might be a while before it fully kicks in. But until then not doing nothing to limit dependence on oil won’t help us. You might not believe in global warming, But I am sure you know that we are going to run out of oil soon. Waiting till last moment for anything doesn’t work..

  • Dsiscokid

    grafxmail7 said:
    Man! There are a bunch of the followers reciting scripture. What’s up with that? You Chicken Little Beck true believers think that if you quote scripture it makes you ‘more’ correct with your ideas when you defend your Dear Leader. Why don’t you quote scripture that deals with false apostles?

    Read the WHOLE thread……….

  • Jerps

    Are there any political message boards that don’t descend into self-righteous nastiness?

  • Dsiscokid

    Snowspot said:
    Speaking in scripture really doesn’t lend itself to debate, at least follow up your quotes with some explanation of your thought process. We aren’t mind-readers.

    What would you like to know?

  • Socialist

    Dsiscokid said:
    Open allies or just though diplomatic channels I wonder? And with Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

    Israel’s leaders will figure it out. Its their country, its their government. And with Diplomacy, I am sure we might be able to contribute, for example, how we got Egypt to recognize Israel under Sadat, and The Oslo Peace accords.

    But the point I am getting to is, If we are allied to Israel, then why are we going around the whole middle east and messing things up? I mean its our job to help Israel to defend itself, being its allies, but does that give us authority to support dictators in countries around middle east?

  • Grammie

    nice_thought said:
    Impeach…. Lynch… What’s the difference? Haha.

    .
    To an unformed, unschooled juvenile mind probably not much difference.

    nice_thought said:
    I’m sorry, should have listened carefully. My bad

    .
    I am sure that anyone who said this:
    .

    “I believe you when you say you missed it. Gotta keep it up with 12 hours of beck-hannity-limbaugh. Watch that video again and this time ask your grandson to play the video for you. All this technologies and stuffs might have confused you, grammie.”

    .

    will understand and maybe even applaud my lack of civility in response to an apology.

  • Dsiscokid

    Snowspot said:
    Speaking in scripture really doesn’t lend itself to debate, at least follow up your quotes with some explanation of your thought process. We aren’t mind-readers.

    I’m not trying to come across as flippant, but my personal opinion holds up about as much as the next guy/gal’s. I quote Scripture to show what the Bible actually says, not what someone THINKS the Bible says….

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Socialist said:
    How long are we going to go on Oil? I mean we are not the only ones looking for oil in the Arctic. Russia is there before us and many other countries will start drilling there or layign their hands in that area. At this point we are just extracting every last drop of oil we can get. and that will lead to conflict.

    And green tech isn’t that far away.. It might be a while before it fully kicks in. But until then not doing nothing to limit dependence on oil won’t help us. You might not believe in global warming, But I am sure you know that we are going to run out of oil soon. Waiting till last moment for anything doesn’t work..

    What the Tea Party and GOP doesn’t get is that the entire world isn’t like us. Other countries aren’t waiting to do new energy projects, they are doing them now. China just created a train as fast as an airplane. We can’t sit around using up the rest of the oil, it’s just going to get higher and higher in price, until no one can afford it.

    We have to prepare for the future, 20-30 years from now we wont have oil and if we don’t prepare, that’s the end of the good ol’ USA. That’s what Obama is trying to do, but most people are disagreeing just because they hear it costs money. High speed rail systems all over the US will create millions of jobs… but it will also cost money.

  • nice_thought

    Grammie said:
    .
    To an unformed, unschooled juvenile mind probably not much difference.

    .
    I am sure that anyone who said this:
    .

    “I believe you when you say you missed it. Gotta keep it up with 12 hours of beck-hannity-limbaugh. Watch that video again and this time ask your grandson to play the video for you. All this technologies and stuffs might have confused you, grammie.”

    .

    will understand and maybe even applaud my lack of civility in response to an apology.

    Ya, you are the best.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Grammie said:
    .
    To an unformed, unschooled juvenile mind probably not much difference.

    .
    I am sure that anyone who said this:
    .

    “I believe you when you say you missed it. Gotta keep it up with 12 hours of beck-hannity-limbaugh. Watch that video again and this time ask your grandson to play the video for you. All this technologies and stuffs might have confused you, grammie.”

    .

    will understand and maybe even applaud my lack of civility in response to an apology.

    Why would anyone applaud your lack of civility? Get a clue. If you’re really as old as your screenname implies, you’ve still got some maturing to do.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Who applauds taking the “bitter” path? Heard of redemption and forgiveness? Guess not.

  • ImNotBlue

    So lets see what we’ve got so far:

    Beck offers some possible solutions to a problem.

    The angry left on Mediaite reacts with: name calling, insults, attacks on a specific religion, and critiques of Beck’s attire.

    I can’t say I’m surprised. For the angry left, reality is what they’ve decided it is. They don’t need evidence, research, or actual content… just some anger and a handful of insults. And yet, they still expect to be taken seriously.

    I remember a routine from comedian Ron White. He talks about how he was on the debate team in school… and when it was his turn, he turned to his opponant and said, “Yeah? Well f*ck you!” And thought he had won.

    The angry left around these parts are essentially the same. What Beck says doesn’t matter… they don’t know, and they don’t care. They hate Beck because he disagrees (they assume) with them. Insults and attacks… that’s their “reasoned response.”

    Oh well. If it’s all you’ve got, it’s the best you can do.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    We prefer the “mildly perturbed” left, thank you very much.

  • jo hoochie

    kvon said:
    Actually, Mormons aren’t Christians. In Christianity a belief in God and Jesus as his son and as savior is all that is needed to go to heaven. For Mormons you need to be baptized, (for males) go on a mission, get married in a temple and path tithing throughout your life.

    I guess when Glenn says Jesus is his savior He believes Jesus is the son of God and because he is mormon it doesn’t count and he’s not a christian. Who are we to judge? Tithing is a path in every church I have ever heard about. 10% money and if you don’t have money how about 10% of your time. You don’t convinve me that mormons aren’t christians.

  • Dsiscokid

    Socialist said:
    Israel’s leaders will figure it out. Its their country, its their government. And with Diplomacy, I am sure we might be able to contribute, for example, how we got Egypt to recognize Israel under Sadat, and The Oslo Peace accords. But the point I am getting to is, If we are allied to Israel, then why are we going around the whole middle east and messing things up? I mean its our job to help Israel to defend itself, being its allies, but does that give us authority to support dictators in countries around middle east?

    No we shouldn’t support dictators. But should threats from Iran, Syria, et. al. be taken at face value or ignored and reacted to after the fact?

  • Grammie

    Socialist said:
    I mean its our job to help Israel to defend itself, being its allies, but does that give us authority to support dictators in countries around middle east?

    .
    What is the alternative?

    It seems the ME has either dictators or Islamic Theocracies. Neither form of government provides its citizens with much freedom or vibrant economies.

    Given the only two choices I vote to ally ourselves with those who support our interests the most.

  • Garth

    ImNotBlue said:
    So lets see what we’ve got so far:

    Beck offers some possible solutions to a problem.

    The angry left on Mediaite reacts with: name calling, insults, attacks on a specific religion, and critiques of Beck’s attire.

    I can’t say I’m surprised. For the angry left, reality is what they’ve decided it is. They don’t need evidence, research, or actual content… just some anger and a handful of insults. And yet, they still expect to be taken seriously.

    I remember a routine from comedian Ron White. He talks about how he was on the debate team in school… and when it was his turn, he turned to his opponant and said, “Yeah? Well f*ck you!” And thought he had won.

    The angry left around these parts are essentially the same. What Beck says doesn’t matter… they don’t know, and they don’t care. They hate Beck because he disagrees (they assume) with them. Insults and attacks… that’s their “reasoned response.”

    Oh well. If it’s all you’ve got, it’s the best you can do.

    Lighten up. We all know Glenn is a con artist and people like him will always pull in a few people like yourself. He didn’t offer any solutions, what he offered was typical Glenn Beck pablum…and in typical fashion you bought it. Nothing new here.

  • Grammie

    Snowspot said:
    Why would anyone applaud your lack of civility?

    .
    Ask nice-thought.

  • jo hoochie

    jo hoochie said:
    I guess when Glenn says Jesus is his savior He believes Jesus is the son of God and because he is mormon it doesn’t count and he’s not a christian. Who are we to judge? Tithing is a path in every church I have ever heard about. 10% money and if you don’t have money how about 10% of your time. You don’t convinve me that mormons aren’t christians.

    I meant to say you can’t convince me…. for the spelling czars out there.

  • Dsiscokid

    jo hoochie said:
    I guess when Glenn says Jesus is his savior He believes Jesus is the son of God and because he is mormon it doesn’t count and he’s not a christian. Who are we to judge? Tithing is a path in every church I have ever heard about. 10% money and if you don’t have money how about 10% of your time. You don’t convinve me that mormons aren’t christians.

    I suggest you research Joseph Smith and the writings of the Mormon “prophets”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Freeze/1295216047 Michael Freeze

    I just thought I heard Glenn Beck make sense. The world MUST be coming to an end.

  • nice_thought

    ImNotBlue said:
    So lets see what we’ve got so far:

    Beck offers some possible solutions to a problem.

    The angry left on Mediaite reacts with: name calling, insults, attacks on a specific religion, and critiques of Beck’s attire.

    I can’t say I’m surprised. For the angry left, reality is what they’ve decided it is. They don’t need evidence, research, or actual content… just some anger and a handful of insults. And yet, they still expect to be taken seriously.

    I remember a routine from comedian Ron White. He talks about how he was on the debate team in school… and when it was his turn, he turned to his opponant and said, “Yeah? Well f*ck you!” And thought he had won.

    The angry left around these parts are essentially the same. What Beck says doesn’t matter… they don’t know, and they don’t care. They hate Beck because he disagrees (they assume) with them. Insults and attacks… that’s their “reasoned response.”

    Oh well. If it’s all you’ve got, it’s the best you can do.

    He is offering the solutions to his invented bullshit.
    Egyptians are capable of undoing their own shit.

  • jo hoochie

    Snowspot said:
    Why would anyone applaud your lack of civility? Get a clue. If you’re really as old as your screenname implies, you’ve still got some maturing to do.

    What a rude liberal and show no respect for someone you believe is older than yourself!! Shows you are the one who needs to mature!

  • Socialist

    Dsiscokid said:
    No we shouldn’t support dictators. But should threats from Iran, Syria, et. al. be taken at face value or ignored and reacted to after the fact?

    threats from Iran, definately face value. Iran is led by a dumb leader and almost all the people disagree with him. As i said before, if it weren’t for anti American sentiments there, they would have had a different gov already.. without a question. Rest of the country exist because of anti American sentiments. Lets stop imperialising and the people in those regions will liberate themselves from Islamic theocracy.

    Take Turkey for example, they had Emporers and Theocrats, they just removed them after World War 2 and brought a democracy. People around the world have right to self government, and when their government does things against their will, people do react, maybe not in the most civil way, but it certainly works most of the time.

  • Socialist

    Socialist said:
    Rest of the country the time.

    *countries

  • Garth

    Idiots. Dear Glenn is obviously attention starved so if you really worship Glenn like I think you do you will drop what you are doing, including the children and let him know, via his website, how much you love him and pray to him.

    He’ll really appreciate it, but he’ll appreciate it even more if you sign up to be an Insider.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    jo hoochie said:
    What a rude liberal and show no respect for someone you believe is older than yourself!! Shows you are the one who needs to mature!

    I don’t really care, to be honest. She’s asking people to applaud her rude response to someone’s apology. I don’t applaud it, I guess that was a risk she was taking.

  • Dsiscokid

    Socialist said:
    Take Turkey for example, they had Emporers and Theocrats, they just removed them after World War 2 and brought a democracy. People around the world have right to self government, and when their government does things against their will, people do react, maybe not in the most civil way, but it certainly works most of the time.

    From what I’ve read over the years, after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the Allies (US, Britain, USSR, etc.) set the political boundaries without any consideration for ethnic and/or tribal loyalties. Thoughts?

  • nice_thought

    Grammie said:
    .
    Ask nice-thought.

    U must be the Sarah palin of mediaite. Me me me me me.. Me again..

  • Grammie

    Snowspot said:
    I don’t really care, to be honest. She’s asking people to applaud her rude response to someone’s apology. I don’t applaud it, I guess that was a risk she was taking.

    .
    No, that is not what I asked.

    I specifically addressed nice-thought based upon his earlier response to me that smacked of insulting juvenile superiority over an older woman and his false equivalency attempt between “lynching” and “impeaching”.

    It was tit for tat.

    Butt in whenever you want but do try to at least have some the facts down first.

  • jjay7381

    Faith is the answer? Oh give me a break.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Glenn, you are truly the master. LIberals can’t help but go bat shite crazy over ever single syllable you utter. Keep up the great work!!

  • ImNotBlue

    @ Snow

    How about the “childish left?” That way ya’ll will understand that your whining and moaning is just juvenile.

    @ Garth (aka SarahP, SarahP., Ted, etc.)

    I don’t think anyone here expects you to refute a point with facts or evidence. And as such, your comments here aren’t a let down… it’s just par.

    @ nice

    I had no idea that Beck invented the Egyptian crisis! WHO KNEW?!

    Of course, since you didn’t watch the clip (right?), I’m not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion… other than, you’ve just made it up.

  • nice_thought

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Glenn, you are truly the master. LIberals can’t help but go bat shite crazy over ever single syllable you utter. Keep up the great work!!

    Is he your master?

  • George C

    Garth said:
    Ted/SarahP/Garth is an attention starved narcissist who, I’m afraid is going to have go further off the ledge to get the attention he deserves

    FIFY again .

  • CosmosDan

    Dsiscokid said:
    True. Mormons also heed The Book of Mormon and another book (Standards and Practices, I believe)

    Actually I think it’s the Doctrine and Covenants,

    J Smith taught that God’s instruction to mankind was not meant to end with one compilation of writings and there would be ongoing inspiration resulting in sacred writings. The Book of Mormon was supposedly from ancient America and the D&C was and is contemporary scripture starting from the 1830s.

    It’s an interesting premise since there’s nothing other than tradition stating that divine inspiration resulting in other sacred writings would ever cease.

  • Mr B

    Jerps said:
    Actually Mormons are Christians. They have Jesus Christ at the center of the church, officially named The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If they’re not your cup o’ Christian, that’s fine, but it’s their right to define themselves how they wish. If you want to see Beck debate someone, you can go back to clips from his HLN show. I remember he had Sharpton on once.

    Glenn even went so far as to walk the walk. He joined Sharpton in one of his marches. Sharpton said “I can’t believe you showed up” to Glenn. It should be clear as to why Glenn did show up.

  • nice_thought

    ImNotBlue said:
    @ Snow

    How about the “childish left?” That way ya’ll will understand that your whining and moaning is just juvenile.

    @ Garth (aka SarahP, SarahP., Ted, etc.)

    I don’t think anyone here expects you to refute a point with facts or evidence. And as such, your comments here aren’t a let down… it’s just par.

    @ nice

    I had no idea that Beck invented the Egyptian crisis! WHO KNEW?!

    Of course, since you didn’t watch the clip (right?), I’m not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion… other than, you’ve just made it up.

    He goes on tv to warn how all of world is going fall following Egypt and tells you how the countries are going to blow up. And when people criticize him for it, he comes with a solution. I know you don’t watch beck regularly, but if you caught hi opening today you would feel nauseated how he invents facts.

  • CosmosDan

    Dsiscokid said:
    7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
    8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    Galatians 1:7-10

    1. Christians don’t agree on exactly what the gospel is.

    2.. You seem to be presuming that your particular beliefs and interpretation of the gospel is the true one rather than the perverted one, while Mormons believe the gospel was perverted through the ages and the prophet Smith as chosen by God to restore it. According to them, your version is is the perverted one. What a quandary.

  • The Dweller Ysul

    ImNotBlue said:
    What Beck says doesn’t matter… they don’t know, and they don’t care. They hate Beck because he disagrees (they assume) with them. Insults and attacks… that’s their “reasoned response.”

    Now just hold on a second, there, sensitive. Have you watched Beck’s TV show, or worse yet, listened to him on the radio? Insults and attacks are his stock-in-trade. Only he (along with his sidekicks) has a tendency, when fire’s returned–and it’s never face-to-face, due to his refusal to debate anyone who doesn’t agree with him–to squeal like Mothra when hit by Godzilla’s death ray. And that’s no exaggeration. Last week, they were talking on the radio about Chris Matthews’ calling Michelle Bachmann a “bubble-head” (note: they’ve spoken in far worse terms about Nancy Pelosi), and Beck’s producer, Stu, was speaking in such a high register, I figured he’d had his testicles removed. I sent flowers and a card.

    As for knowing and caring what Beck says, Media Matters has an entire wing of their bandwidth dedicated to the knucklehead. Mostly just quotes, using his own words (a technique Beck acts like he invented), and every now and then a greatest hits with some commentary. We know what Beck says, that’s why we call him crazy. Like this week, his theory is that the Chinese, the Russians and the Caliphate are going to divide up the Eastern Hemisphere, and then they’re going to turn on us. His proof? A 2002 protest with ANSWER (an organization representing less people than went to my high school), and a few militant, and rather excitable Muslims up on the dais. That’s the vanguard of this tri-partite division of the world, according to Beck, and it’s really all I, and presumably most sane people, need to hear.

    The problem you that in Moron Nation have, ImNotBlue, is that the rest of us *do* know what Beck has said, only too well.

  • The Dweller Ysul

    Oops, that last line should read: “The problem that you in Moron Nation have….” So, do I need a passport to get into Moron Nation…

  • CosmosDan

    Dsiscokid said:
    I suggest you research Joseph Smith and the writings of the Mormon “prophets”.

    I guess it depends on how much dogma and doctrine has to vary before someone is declared a non Christian , and who gets to make that call. A rigid dogma like the Church of Christ thinks no other so called Christian denomination is going to heaven because they’ve failed to live up to the gospel.

    If worshiping Jesus as the divine son of God qualifies, then Mormons are Christian. Personally I think it would have to be on a more individual and internal basis and denominations and dogma don’t matter at all.

  • Dsiscokid

    CosmosDan said:
    J Smith taught that God’s instruction to mankind was not meant to end with one compilation of writings and there would be ongoing inspiration resulting in sacred writings. The Book of Mormon was supposedly from ancient America and the D&C was and is contemporary scripture starting from the 1830s.
    It’s an interesting premise since there’s nothing other than tradition stating that divine inspiration resulting in other sacred writings would ever cease.

    J Smith, Mohammed, Charles Tate, Elijah Muhammed et. al. have all claimed that they received “special revelations” because man had corrupted the Bible.

    With your logic about the Bible being only “the tradition of men”, why should anyone believe any historical fact?

  • Probably NOT wrong

    Oh my gosh!! I nearly forgot.
    In addition to the large number of jobs Beck has created in the Laundry Industry,
    look at the huge number of jobs he has helped create in the Personal Security
    and Protection Industry. See BOMBSHELL
    What are you Lefty Kooks going to have to say when the man gets a Pulitzer OR called
    to the White House for a personal Thank You from the Prez?
    Jobs is what the agenda is all about going into the 2012 Elections!
    Is it not??
    Got to give credit where it is due!
    Hard to spin it differently!

  • ImNotBlue

    @ nice

    You do realize that there has been uprisings in multiple ME countries, following Egypt’s lead, right? But who cares? If you think it’s such nonsense… why worry about it at all?

    @ Dweller

    First off, the elevation of Olbermann over the past 8 years renders the, “he doesn’t debate” argument void. Apparently the left accepted that with open arms… so complaining now is just BS.

    Secondly, if you’re trusting MM to give you an honest portrayal of anything, you’re sadly mistaken. They’re an advocacy group, who presents things in such a way as to distort the message. They are “ends justify the means,” folks… so lies (and lies of omission) are fine.

    But more importantly, arguing Beck’s theories is fine and important. That’s not what we’re talking about. Read the previous pages, and show me who made their comments based on the clip posted. It’s all blanket, “Beck sucks,” comments by angry leftwing parrots who are only capable of repeating their attacks over and over again. Find me a comment of substance… then we can talk,

  • Mr B

    grafxmail7 said:
    Why don’t you quote scripture that deals with false apostles?

    Hey, that reminds me of Obama adviser Rev. Jim Wallis bearing false witness against thine brother Glenn. You’d think someone such as Wallis would know scripture and especially the teachings of jesus. Or perhaps, Wallis is one of those we were warned of here: “many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.” You can identify them by looking for “social justice”. Which is why the left went bonkers when starting talking about social justice.

    http://www.redstate.com/momoseven/2010/03/22/the-pharisees-bear-false-witness-a-commentary-on-social-justice-4/

    The flak is heaviest when one is over the target. And Glenn Beck has been surgical in his strikes on the left.

  • atreyue

    Yes, so Beck gave solutions. We’ll leave it up to you to debate whether or not they were useful. We will say, however, that the cape at the beginning was brilliant, even if he never explained why he chose to open his show with staff and cape. But if any of Beck’s critics fall into the clear trap of reporting on the goofy costume in the first few minutes of the show and not the substance in the last few minutes, you can be sure that Beck will be ready to pounce.

    Mr. Bershad, I’m so confused. You criticize Beck heavily for not giving any solutions or “leading” yesterday. Today Beck attempts to give solutions, which you refuse to comment on, dedicating just one sentence of this article to any of the substance of the clip you’ve posted. Why is it that you can opine in your column that Beck should be giving solutions, then decide not to offer any opinion on his response to you (other than to try to belittle him by focusing on his outfit)? Offering up the last sentence above doesn’t keep people from realizing you yourself have “fallen into the trap” of which you speak. It just makes it painfully obvious that you yourself are setting a trap for your readers to focus on these things and ignore substance.

    If you want people to take you seriously, you need to live up to the claims you make to journalistic integrity. You need to stop engaging in criticism while avoiding intelligent debate. You need to stop attempting to belittle people you disagree with by focusing on the absurd and unimportant and start substantively addressing the things they say. You need to stop obfuscating and playing to the liberal lowest common denominator and start actually reporting (or editorializing/debating).

  • Nacho

    Holy shit, this guy is a lunatic.

  • atreyue

    nice_thought said:
    I know you don’t watch beck regularly, but if you caught hi opening today you would feel nauseated how he invents facts.

    According to you, you never stoop to watching his show. So how would you actually know what he is saying? Depending on others to tell you everything you need to know and be honest about it is just as stupid as the people who eat up everything Beck says without researching it further.

  • grafxmail7

    Joseph Smith = False Prophet

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    On Mediaite Only,

    Which thread, right now, would get the most (within 8 hours of posting) Comments?

    - PALIN Thread

    - BECK Thread

    Beck thread, to be sure!

  • Paleoconservatarian

    atreyue said:
    Why is it that you can opine in your column that Beck should be giving solutions, then decide not to offer any opinion on his response to you (other than to try to belittle him by focusing on his outfit)?

    Possibly because this isn’t an opinion column.

  • Mr B

    But I am sure you know that we are going to run out of oil soon.

    Jimmy Carter, is that you?

    “Unless profound changes are made to lower oil consumption, we now believe that early in the 1980s the world will be demanding more oil that it can produce … Each new inventory of world oil reserves has been more disturbing than the last. World oil production can probably keep going up for another six or eight years. But some time in the 1980s it can’t go up much more. Demand will overtake production. We have no choice about that.” – President Carter

    30 years later………

  • atreyue

    Dsiscokid said:
    J Smith, Mohammed, Charles Tate, Elijah Muhammed et. al. have all claimed that they received “special revelations” because man had corrupted the Bible.

    With your logic about the Bible being only “the tradition of men”, why should anyone believe any historical fact?

    Christians appended the Jewish holy book, Islam and the Mormons did the same to Christianity. Hell, gospels were removed from the bible by the Catholic church. Historical fact is murky at best where religion is concerned. If you really want to be a christian purist, you should probably stop the New testament after the Gospels and throw all the books after them out, since Christ isn’t in those books. Even then, you’re ignoring the fact that each of the gospels is an account given by a particular apostle (I won’t even bother to debate the historical validity of that), and each one has an obvious ideological bent that differs from the others. To say that you acknowledge innumerable denominations of Christianity but draw the line at Mormonism may be a bit hypocritical.

  • Dsiscokid

    CosmosDan said:
    1. Christians don’t agree on exactly what the gospel is. 2.. You seem to be presuming that your particular beliefs and interpretation of the gospel is the true one rather than the perverted one, while Mormons believe the gospel was perverted through the ages and the prophet Smith as chosen by God to restore it. According to them, your version is is the perverted one. What a quandary.

    Thankfully the Bible settles the issue, if we simply let the Bible say what the Bible says about the Bible.
    The church in Acts Chapter 2:42 did this-
    And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

    #1- They continued in the apostles’ doctrine (read the whole chapter. BTW- They were filled with the Holy Ghost (cross-reference with 1 Cor. 2:14) and fellowship. Denominational differences within Christianity are one thing, but the essensial doctrines of Biblical Christianity (i.e.- The Deity of Jesus, the Trinity, the virgin birth, The death, burial, and bodily resurrection, simple faith in Christ for salvation alone (see Acts 16:31, Ephesians 2:8, and 2 Corinthians 11:3 for some examples) are immutable and that is what separates Biblical Christianity from the cults. God warns us in His Word of private interpretations (2 Peter 1:20,21)

  • The Dweller Ysul

    ImNotBlue said:
    Secondly, if you’re trusting MM to give you an honest portrayal of anything, you’re sadly mistaken. They’re an advocacy group, who presents things in such a way as to distort the message. They are “ends justify the means,” folks… so lies (and lies of omission) are fine.

    And that makes them different from Beck, how? Look, for the most part, with regard to Rush, Beck, Hannity, Media Matters just posts clips, day after day, documenting the madness with scant comment. You seem to want to have the discussion of Beck undertaken on a serious plane (as in taking him serious) without our being able to make reference to the one resource that does take him seriously, relentlessly. I guess I should ask you to demonstrate how Media Matters has been dishonest about Beck. (And you know, I’m sure they have on occasion, but that’s for you to prove.)

    ImNotBlue said:
    …show me who made their comments based on the clip posted.

    Look at my prior comment. I addressed, substantively, the fact that Beck was trying counter claims that he’s a conspiracy theorist by having a couple of conspiracy theorists on his TV show with him tonight. You can’t hold a little snark against a guy, can you?

  • atreyue

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Possibly because this isn’t an opinion column.

    It must be very convenient to be able to choose to pretend a column isn’t giving an opinion because it’s not in the opinion section of the website. Especially when it’s a response to an opinion column. That’s the point that I was trying to get at. Journalistic integrity, to my mind, means that at least you have consistency. This is no different from the criticism leveled at Beck that he hides behind the label of “rodeo clown” whenever it’s convenient.

  • nice_thought

    atreyue said:
    According to you, you never stoop to watching his show. So how would you actually know what he is saying? Depending on others to tell you everything you need to know and be honest about it is just as stupid as the people who eat up everything Beck says without researching it further.

    Where did I say I didn’t watch Glenn beck?

  • timcajun

    I’m so glad Glenn told us he is a christian! I thought I could tell by his lies,scare grandma tactics, fear and spin! Please Glenn continue taking credit for the sun coming out, so we can say “see, see he said it would happen”! Thanks for telling us that you are not trying to scare people, then 10 seconds later saying” you will be scared”, that really helps the sheep, and we have to live with the nut bags, not you!

  • nice_thought

    ImNotBlue said:
    @ nice

    You do realize that there has been uprisings in multiple ME countries, following Egypt’s lead, right? But who cares? If you think it’s such nonsense… why worry about it at all?

    @ Dweller

    First off, the elevation of Olbermann over the past 8 years renders the, “he doesn’t debate” argument void. Apparently the left accepted that with open arms… so complaining now is just BS.

    Secondly, if you’re trusting MM to give you an honest portrayal of anything, you’re sadly mistaken. They’re an advocacy group, who presents things in such a way as to distort the message. They are “ends justify the means,” folks… so lies (and lies of omission) are fine.

    But more importantly, arguing Beck’s theories is fine and important. That’s not what we’re talking about. Read the previous pages, and show me who made their comments based on the clip posted. It’s all blanket, “Beck sucks,” comments by angry leftwing parrots who are only capable of repeating their attacks over and over again. Find me a comment of substance… then we can talk,

    Ya, but did it hit you that maybe they are protesting for more freedom and the American Left has nothing to do with it?

  • atreyue

    nice_thought said:
    Where did I say I didn’t watch Glenn beck?

    I owe you an apology, that was the Tea weasel who said that. I should have checked prior to my post.

    I hate the fact there are now only a set amount of comment per page. I wonder if that was done for convenience’s sake for page loading or to increase page views…

  • atreyue

    and I also apologize on behalf of the idiots who thumbed you down for that post.

  • Pablo

    atreyue said:
    This is no different from the criticism leveled at Beck that he hides behind the label of “rodeo clown” whenever it’s convenient.

    Generally, when he says that, it’s self deprecation. But I can’t remember the last time I heard him say that. It’s been a long time. He seems to have dropped the line. He’s also dropped a lot of the comedy he used to do.

  • Dsiscokid

    atreyue said:
    Christians appended the Jewish holy book

    Jesus fulfilled the Jewish Holy Book (Matt. 5:17-18 for example- Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    atreyue said:
    If you really want to be a christian purist, you should probably stop the New testament after the Gospels and throw all the books after them out, since Christ isn’t in those books

    He spoke and appeared physically in Acts and Revelation, and the epistles were of God written by apostles (chosen by Jesus) who were led of the Holy Spirit to write to specific, local churches directly (Ephesus, Galatia,Rome, etc.) and for the church bodily (of all ages to come)

    atreyue said:
    Even then, you’re ignoring the fact that each of the gospels is an account given by a particular apostle (I won’t even bother to debate the historical validity of that), and each one has an obvious ideological bent that differs from the others.

    Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (eye-witness accounts)

    atreyue said:
    To say that you acknowledge innumerable denominations of Christianity but draw the line at Mormonism may be a bit hypocritical.

    Do some research on J. Smith and the Mormon Church.

  • jo hoochie

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    On Mediaite Only, Which thread, right now, would get the most (within 8 hours of posting) Comments? – PALIN Thread – BECK Thread Beck thread, to be sure!

    It’s a very close call either way.

  • Dsiscokid

    jo hoochie said:
    It’s a very close call either way.

    A flip of a coin :)

  • atreyue

    Pablo said:
    Generally, when he says that, it’s self deprecation. But I can’t remember the last time I heard him say that. It’s been a long time. He seems to have dropped the line. He’s also dropped a lot of the comedy he used to do.

    I was referring to the fact that many criticize him by saying that he attacks, gives false info, etc. and tries to wave it all off by saying “I’m just a guy. I’m not a reporter. If I get things wrong, you can’t hold me accountable for it, since I’m just opinion TV.”

    I still think he needs to drop a lot more of the comedy, props and voice imitations that he does. I much prefer the serious way that he approached things on his HLN show.

  • Dsiscokid

    atreyue said:
    hate the fact there are now only a set amount of comment per page. I wonder if that was done for convenience’s sake for page loading or to increase page views…

    I wonder that myself

  • Pablo

    atreyue said:
    o increase page views…

    Maybe a little of both. But I noticed that the site was lading like molasses in winter for a while and it seems to load without much trouble now. There’s a valid technical reason for it, but I hate it too. Except for the fact that when I refresh the page it actually loads.

    Mr. Abrams, tear down this wall! Er, I mean buy more and better servers, and abolish pagination!!!! You’re rocking, right? Act like it.

  • Dsiscokid

    atreyue said:
    was referring to the fact that many criticize him by saying that he attacks, gives false info, etc. and tries to wave it all off by saying “I’m just a guy. I’m not a reporter. If I get things wrong, you can’t hold me accountable for it, since I’m just opinion TV.”
    I still think he needs to drop a lot more of the comedy, props and voice imitations that he does. I much prefer the serious way that he approached things on his HLN show.

    Agreed. His political opponents only focus on the silliness rather than the substance

  • jo hoochie

    jo hoochie said:
    NORBIT Jr. said:
    On Mediaite Only, Which thread, right now, would get the most (within 8 hours of posting) Comments? – PALIN Thread – BECK Thread Beck thread, to be sure!

    I thought it would be a close call. I take it back. I believe you are right. It’s Beck all the way!

  • Eshvish

    Once again, this clown boy, in his own feeble mind, assumes he is somebody who is presenting some revolutionary “solution” to the problem he doesn’t even understand.

    Muslim Brotherhood are nothing like what these conspiracy, uninformed goons describe them to be. They don’t even know the basic political make up of today’s Egypt, yet they found it upon themselves to parade these reactionary people to expound on intricacies of some country they just heard about a week ago!!!

    It’s so sad that people allow someone like this, and many like him, to define the narrative that has little resemblance to reality and played like a wind up toy. Get a life people.

  • Dsiscokid

    atreyue said:
    If you want people to take you seriously, you need to live up to the claims you make to journalistic integrity. You need to stop engaging in criticism while avoiding intelligent debate. You need to stop attempting to belittle people you disagree with by focusing on the absurd and unimportant and start substantively addressing the things they say. You need to stop obfuscating and playing to the liberal lowest common denominator and start actually reporting (or editorializing/debating).

    Well said

  • zumpano

    I FOUND MY NEW AVATAR

    AWWWWWWWEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEE

  • tgk

    Oh, that crazy Beck…………..

    Beck’s Matthews Mocked Conspiracy Confirmed: Communists, Socialists Working With Muslims

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlq4nFMJiQQ&feature=player_embedded

  • Pablo

    atreyue said:
    I was referring to the fact that many criticize him by saying that he attacks, gives false info, etc. and tries to wave it all off by saying “I’m just a guy. I’m not a reporter. If I get things wrong, you can’t hold me accountable for it, since I’m just opinion TV.”

    He is and will probably always be an opinion guy. His tagline has been “The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment” for many years. He is not a journalist, and he doesn’t claim to be. He doesn’t pretend to be a “news” guy. He’s built The Blaze to do news. He does opinion, and probably always will.

    I still think he needs to drop a lot more of the comedy, props and voice imitations that he does. I much prefer the serious way that he approached things on his HLN show.

    He is who he is, and probably always will be. And quite often, he’s hilarious, and there is a place for that. That’s the reason I started listening to him 8 years or so ago. His current place in the overall conversation was unimaginable back then. His is a very American story.

  • corplin

    Says NORBIT: Im sure Glen would be happy to debate—–A Beck Debate??—- Have you EVER seen Beck debate anyone?? If so please tell me who and when, or at least about what—– thank you.

    NO?? HAS Beck ever debated anyone that you know of?? who? when? Pls post it, — and IS Beck MORMON or as he said today Christian??

  • Pablo

    Eshvish said:
    Muslim Brotherhood are nothing like what these conspiracy, uninformed goons describe them to be.

    Great, Why don’t you tell us what they are, as opposed to what they’re not.

  • jo hoochie

    Dsiscokid said:
    A flip of a coin :)

    I agree with that too!!

  • Pablo

    atreyue said:
    “I’m just a guy. I’m not a reporter. If I get things wrong, you can’t hold me accountable for it, since I’m just opinion TV.”

    If his facts are wrong, he deserves whatever he gets for offering them without verifying them. But I can’t recall him trying to hide bullshit behind the clown nose.

  • The Dweller Ysul

    Pablo said:
    He’s built The Blaze to do news.

    Heh. Yeah, like imbedding that link of CSPAN carrying a 9-year old rally of 500 malcontents. Cutting edge news gathering, that. And you know, the internet wouldn’t let the Blaze have bandwidth if they weren’t reporting the truth.

    Pablo said:
    His is a very American story.

    Sure, it reminds of the Jimmy Pearsall story. (Sorry, Glenn, if you’re gonna sockpuppet so shamelessly, you gotta expect a little ribbin’.)

  • Pablo

    corplin said:
    Says NORBIT: Im sure Glen would be happy to debate—–A Beck Debate??—- Have you EVER seen Beck debate anyone?? If so please tell me who and when, or at least about what—– thank you.

    NO?? HAS Beck ever debated anyone that you know of?? who? when? Pls post it, — and IS Beck MORMON or as he said today Christian??

    Here you go. Oh, and if you need help figuring out the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, they’ll be really, really happy to explain it to you. Just drop in and ask them, if they don’t show up at your door and do it first.

  • Pablo

    The Dweller Ysul said:
    Heh. Yeah, like imbedding that link of CSPAN carrying a 9-year old rally of 500 malcontents. Cutting edge news gathering, that. And you know, the internet wouldn’t let the Blaze have bandwidth if they weren’t reporting the truth.

    Sure, it reminds of the Jimmy Pearsall story. (Sorry, Glenn, if you’re gonna sockpuppet so shamelessly, you gotta expect a little ribbin’.)

    Ah, so you don’t like it. Duly noted, FWIW.

  • Hawk11

    Glenn Beck = Cali-Phony

  • atreyue

    Dsiscokid said:
    Jesus fulfilled the Jewish Holy Book (Matt. 5:17-18 for example- Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    He spoke and appeared physically in Acts and Revelation, and the epistles were of God written by apostles (chosen by Jesus) who were led of the Holy Spirit to write to specific, local churches directly (Ephesus, Galatia,Rome, etc.) and for the church bodily (of all ages to come)

    Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (eye-witness accounts)

    Do some research on J. Smith and the Mormon Church.

    I’m not going to debate this with you, because I don’t believe that the outlook you seem to be professing allows for any intelligent oppositional debate. I respect your belief in your religion. I personally am a little more old school and believe more in being Christ-like than adhering to any religious strictures, as any religious institution by necessity is more concerned with it’s own survival than spirituality.

  • The Dweller Ysul

    Pablo said:
    Duly noted

    What, you gonna put me on a blacklist now? I guess that vacation to Moron Nation is out?

    Oh, and please, Glenn, I mean, Pablo, that link of your debate with the Acorn guy ended with you shouting “cut his mike, cut his mike.” In the traditional debate format, that would result in a pretty large point deduction…and probably not a few jeers.

  • jo hoochie

    Those that don’t know Beck should consider reading his book “The seven wonders that will change your life”
    I read good books about liberals so you liberals should read a good book from our side. Just say’n!!

  • Pablo

    The Dweller Ysul said:
    What, you gonna put me on a blacklist now?

    Oh, yes. You’re going right on my extensive blacklist. Which, if I were you, I wouldn’t sweat it.

    Oh, and please, Glenn, I mean, Pablo,

    Ah, yes. When I’m not producing all that Blaze content in my sockpuppet mode, I, Glenn Beck, am hanging out at Mediaite in my “Pablo” guise. You totally got me. Idiot.

  • The Real Royal King

    His gown looks very much like the one Helen Mirren recently wore to her premier. I suspect it is a copy.

  • The Real Royal King

    jo hoochie said:
    Those that don’t know Beck should consider reading his book “The seven wonders that will change your life”I read good books about liberals so you liberals should read a good book from our side. Just say’n!!

    Fair enough. Do you know such a good book?

  • Calvin

    jo hoochie said:
    Those that don’t know Beck should consider reading his book “The seven wonders that will change your life”

    Or check out his book “The Real America: Messages from the Heart and Heartland.” Funny book, and honest too.

  • The Real Royal King

    atreyue said:
    I personally am a little more old school and believe more in being Christ-like than adhering to any religious strictures, as any religious institution by necessity is more concerned with it’s own survival than spirituality.

    That’s old school? It seems more like Scientology to me.

  • The Real Royal King

    Calvin said:
    Or check out his book “The Real America: Messages from the Heart and Heartland.” Funny book, and honest too.

    That was indeed a good book. One seldom reads anything so well written outside the men’s room at Port Authority.

  • The Real Royal King

    jo hoochie said:
    jo hoochie said:
    NORBIT Jr. said:
    On Mediaite Only, Which thread, right now, would get the most (within 8 hours of posting) Comments? – PALIN Thread – BECK Thread Beck thread, to be sure!
    I thought it would be a close call. I take it back. I believe you are right. It’s Beck all the way!

    In fairness, America has long cherished its nuts. Elmer Gantry and Father Coughlin were also wildly popular. In fact, far more popular than Mr. Beck.

  • Pablo

    The Dweller Ysul said:
    without our being able to make reference to the one resource that does take him seriously, relentlessly.

    Uh, Fox News, dipshit. And CNN, until he quit. And Simon and Schuster. And Clear Channel. You should pay attention. This stuff isn’t the least bit hard to figure out.

    Also, Mercury Radio Arts, but that’s almost cheating, given that he owns it.

  • Pablo

    Pablo said:
    Uh, Fox News, dipshit. And CNN, until he quit. And Simon and Schuster. And Clear Channel. You should pay attention. This stuff isn’t the least bit hard to figure out.

    Whoops! I forgot Sirius/XM, which sees fit to buy his radio show. My bad.

  • nice_thought

    atreyue said:
    I owe you an apology, that was the Tea weasel who said that. I should have checked prior to my post.

    I hate the fact there are now only a set amount of comment per page. I wonder if that was done for convenience’s sake for page loading or to increase page views…

    It’s cool.

  • timcajun

    tgk says:

    Beck’s Matthews Mocked Conspiracy Confirmed: Communists, Socialists Working With Muslims

    I didn’t think the “teas” would use a Breitbart, Beck, Blaze spin “cut” and “paste” tube to….. support the wacko theories of “Beck”!… Wait! Can I do that? Yeah, I’ll lie then tell you” I’m right because…… I confirmed it……. myself”… yeah that’s the ticket!

  • Pablo

    timcajun said:
    tgk says:

    Beck’s Matthews Mocked Conspiracy Confirmed: Communists, Socialists Working With Muslims

    I didn’t think the “teas” would use a Breitbart, Beck, Blaze spin “cut” and “paste” tube to….. support the wacko theories of “Beck”!… Wait! Can I do that? Yeah, I’ll lie then tell you” I’m right because…… I confirmed it……. myself”… yeah that’s the ticket!

    It comes from the right so it’s all lies!!! Next time, just type “Baaaaaa.” You’ll convey the same meaning without all the work.

  • ProgLib

    Dsiscokid said:
    Thankfully the Bible settles the issue, if we simply let the Bible say what the Bible says about the Bible.
    The church in Acts Chapter 2:42 did this-
    And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

    #1- They continued in the apostles’ doctrine (read the whole chapter. BTW- They were filled with the Holy Ghost (cross-reference with 1 Cor. 2:14) and fellowship. Denominational differences within Christianity are one thing, but the essensial doctrines of Biblical Christianity (i.e.- The Deity of Jesus, the Trinity, the virgin birth, The death, burial, and bodily resurrection, simple faith in Christ for salvation alone (see Acts 16:31, Ephesians 2:8, and 2 Corinthians 11:3 for some examples) are immutable and that is what separates Biblical Christianity from the cults. God warns us in His Word of private interpretations (2 Peter 1:20,21)

    is that after the part where it talks about shellfish being an abomination?

  • A man without a Country

    “I’m out of it for a little while, everybody gets delusions of grandeur.” — Han Solo

  • A man without a Country

    ImNotBlue said:

    Secondly, if you’re trusting Fox News to give you an honest portrayal of anything, you’re sadly mistaken. They’re an advocacy group, who presents things in such a way as to distort the message. They are “ends justify the means,” folks… so lies (and lies of omission) are fine.

    Typo Fixed.

  • ProgLib

    the dude in the clip there that thinks they are successful in converting a large number of moslems to christianity is delusional. Islam is growing much faster.

  • atreyue

    The Real Royal King said:
    That’s old school? It seems more like Scientology to me.

    I’m assuming that was tongue-in-cheek, but I was referring more to Christ calling out the Pharisees for being caught up in the letter of the law instead of the spirit and how they feared him and sought to undermine him because he threatened their power base.

  • Calvin

    ProgLib said:
    the dude in the clip there that thinks they are successful in converting a large number of moslems to christianity is delusional. Islam is growing much faster.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/demographics.asp

  • Paleoconservatarian

    The Dweller Ysul said:
    What, you gonna put me on a blacklist now? I guess that vacation to Moron Nation is out?

    Oh, and please, Glenn, I mean, Pablo, that link of your debate with the Acorn guy ended with you shouting “cut his mike, cut his mike.” In the traditional debate format, that would result in a pretty large point deduction…and probably not a few jeers.

    Actually, didn’t end that way at all. It was mid-way through the interview as ACORN’s spokesman was using the tried and true honorable debating technique of talking over the host in a rambling filibuster. And neither was Beck’s call for his mic to be cut off (for a sum total of 15 seconds, during which the guest can still be heard to talk) shouted, for that matter.

    Characterizations.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e0ty5lV_Zk

  • atreyue

    ProgLib said:
    the dude in the clip there that thinks they are successful in converting a large number of moslems to christianity is delusional. Islam is growing much faster.

    You say delusional, I say he’s the scariest guest that Beck has ever had on his show. That definitely wasn’t where Beck thought he was going when he was talking about the spiritual solution.

  • ganymede

    Whenever the name Glenn Beck comes up on this website, the crazies really come out in numbers. I’m beginning to think that Beck is the greatest gift to progressive causes we’ll ever have. He’s even better than Sarah Palin. To look at all the thumbs up and the semi literate comments indicates that we have huge educational problems in our country. How can anyone listen to him as he is clearly a very sick and confused dude on a wild American power trip. The more he bloviates the more he downgrades and makes irrelevant all rightwing/conservative principles and causes. And he doesn’t do much to help the cause of Christianity or Mormonism. Did someone in Beck’s audience actually say that evangelical Christianity was the answer to evangelical Islam! Did Beck say anything to the contrary? Asides from the 2-3 million people who hang onto every word from the master’s lips, the vast majority of people in this country don’t give a rat’s ass what this character has to say. If you haven’t noticed, Beck’s audience has peaked and he is beginning to stumble. I predict he will take a long vacation in the not so distant future. I’m sure there will be another Beck and you will fall for this one as well. It’s the yin/yang effect – there will always be people who have to go against the grain. Whether you want to accept it or not, Obama is doing a pretty good job considering what he has to deal with, including the resistance from the irrational right.

  • atreyue

    Pablo said:
    He is and will probably always be an opinion guy. His tagline has been “The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment” for many years. He is not a journalist, and he doesn’t claim to be. He doesn’t pretend to be a “news” guy. He’s built The Blaze to do news. He does opinion, and probably always will.

    He is who he is, and probably always will be. And quite often, he’s hilarious, and there is a place for that. That’s the reason I started listening to him 8 years or so ago. His current place in the overall conversation was unimaginable back then. His is a very American story.

    I don’t have any problem with him being an opinion guy as opposed to a journalist. As long as he understands that he still has intellectual responsibilities. A lot of his predictions have come to pass and he hit a chord with many Americans because it was clear that he was earnest, or at least it was easy to look earnest when his contemporaries are Rush, O’Reilly and Hannity. I think he’s begun to slip recently because he’s believing his own hype a little too much. I’ve been to the Blaze, and it’s hardly a bastion of impartiality. It reads kind of like it’s run by right-wing Tommy Christophers, and is clearly opinion masquerading as news. Just because everyone else is doing it doesn’t mean he should have followed suit.

    He also needs to start bringing guests back on his show regularly and not be afraid to mix it up a bit. If he followed the Kelly’s Court example and moderated panelists on different sides I think that would be far more interested than taking the O’Reilly overpower them and grandstand approach. He could really benefit from taking more time for consideration and deliberation of different viewpoints, as well as asking probing questions to nail down what others are really saying. At least it would keep things fresh. Just imagine if he did 5 or 10 mins every day with Shep Smith or someone else with a no-nonsense approach instead of whole episodes devoted to Vince Flynn. Right now, he’s getting stale. I think that a more intellectual approach to presenting his opinions would benefit him much more and make it harder for his detractors to bury his points under his outfits.

  • Pablo

    It reads kind of like it’s run by right-wing Tommy Christophers, and is clearly opinion masquerading as news.

    Dude, I have all sorts of respect for you, bu this in an egregious insult that cannot stand unchallenged. The Blaze has a large variety of content, some opinionated, some straight fact. Tommy is an obvious and pathetic hack and anyone with firing synapses can’t miss it. Even if you consider the Blaze all right-wing lies, it cannot be compared to Tommy “Somebody actually pays this hack?” Christopher.

  • Yoda002

    They need to pull Mr McCarthy(Beck) off the air. What a nutcase!

  • Calvin

    Pablo said:
    Dude, I have all sorts of respect for you, bu this in an egregious insult that cannot stand unchallenged. The Blaze has a large variety of content, some opinionated, some straight fact.

    From google search of “the blaze”: “The Blaze is a news, information and opinion site brought to you by Glenn Beck and a dedicated team of writers, journalists & video producers.”

    Videos of people in their own words is not opinion. Even though NBC, CBS, ABC CNN, MSNBC don’t consider these revolutionaries news (wonder why?), they most certainly are news. Now, the anaylsis of those videos can be opinion, and you can disagree with that. Most of their (the revolutionaries) rhetoric seems pretty clear though, and those who don’t want it to mean what it likely means, will make it mean something different.

  • atreyue

    Pablo said:
    Dude, I have all sorts of respect for you, bu this in an egregious insult that cannot stand unchallenged. The Blaze has a large variety of content, some opinionated, some straight fact. Tommy is an obvious and pathetic hack and anyone with firing synapses can’t miss it. Even if you consider the Blaze all right-wing lies, it cannot be compared to Tommy “Somebody actually pays this hack?” Christopher.

    I think my issue is with the slant that all the stories have. I don’t want to see another right or left wing site. I want to see one that is as eager to highlight stupid righties or honorable lefties as attack the other side, whether or not it’s subtle. More than anything, I’d like to see intelligent discourse. The site doesn’t serve Beck or his brand as much as he might like.

  • ImNotBlue

    nice_thought said:
    Ya, but did it hit you that maybe they are protesting for more freedom and the American Left has nothing to do with it?

    You’re really trying to confuse multiple issues, aren’t you?

    The people protesting for more freedoms, good for them! The people who want to use the chaos to institute a religious theocracy (as we have seen in other countries in that region) are a threat to the entire world. If you don’t believe that we should be concerned that these revolutions could become (whether or not they started that way) could be the beginning of something bad, and therefore require some actual thought and information before we start blindly supporting groups, then you don’t understand history at all. What is wrong with a little caution?

    The Dweller Ysul said:
    And that makes them different from Beck, how? Look, for the most part, with regard to Rush, Beck, Hannity, Media Matters just posts clips, day after day, documenting the madness with scant comment. You seem to want to have the discussion of Beck undertaken on a serious plane (as in taking him serious) without our being able to make reference to the one resource that does take him seriously, relentlessly. I guess I should ask you to demonstrate how Media Matters has been dishonest about Beck. (And you know, I’m sure they have on occasion, but that’s for you to prove.)

    How is MM different from Beck? You tell me… you reference MM, so you must put some faith in them. Why would you put your faith in a group which is (according to you) the same as the person you’re attacking?

    But honestly, I don’t want to get into a discussion about MM… it’s far too off topic. We can both do the same Google-work to find quotes, out-of-context videos, and such that show MM’s making a story out of nothing. But what’s the point?

    My point remains that the vast majority of angry left-wingers around here hate Beck, not so much for what he says, but for what they THINK he’s said. They don’t listen to him, they don’t watch him, and when presented with a new story (like this) they just continue with their juvenile name calling. They’re really angry… but not entirely educated as to why.

    Look at my prior comment. I addressed, substantively, the fact that Beck was trying counter claims that he’s a conspiracy theorist by having a couple of conspiracy theorists on his TV show with him tonight. You can’t hold a little snark against a guy, can you?

    Really? Where did you say that? And how does that answer my question… at all?

    And you can be as snarky as you want… I can’t stop you. But equally, I don’t have to take you seriously, and am free to recognize that those who rely on insults and personal attacks probably don’t know what they’re talking about in the first place.

    A man without a Country said:
    Typo Fixed.

    Always a clever response, never seen that done before. Anything else new and fresh you want to lay on me?

    ganymede said:
    Whenever the name Glenn Beck comes up on this website, the crazies really come out in numbers.

    I know! All those comments from the angry left, and almost none on the actual content of the video. I wonder, if it weren’t for Beck, Palin, FNC, and some others… what would the angry left do with all their free non-angry time? Hehe… silly me, they’d just find something else to be outraged about.

    Angry is as angry does.

    Yoda002 said:
    They need to pull Mr McCarthy(Beck) off the air. What a nutcase!

    Yeah! How dare anyone offer an opinion or view of the world that isn’t left-wing?! How dare he!

  • the real john t

    ImNotBlue said:
    My point remains that the vast majority of angry left-wingers

    ImNotBlue said:
    what would the angry left

    ImNotBlue said:
    I know! All those comments from the angry left,

    ImNotBlue said:
    they just continue with their juvenile name calling.

    Who’s insulting who here? Who’s using the juvenile name calling? Can you say HYPOCRITE?

  • puck30

    Yoda002 said:
    They need to pull Mr McCarthy(Beck) off the air. What a nutcase!

    Yeah! They could replace him with this ‘SANE’ person from the left.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuZFT76uxoc&feature=related

  • puck30

    the real john t said:
    Who’s insulting who here? Who’s using the juvenile name calling? Can you say HYPOCRITE?

    Little Johnny ‘T’ Hypocrite

    There I said it.

  • the real john t

    puck30 said:
    There I said it.

    OH! Are you Blue Boy also?

  • puck30

    the real john t said:
    OH! Are you Blue Boy also?

    That’s right!

    I’m also Grannie, Johnny Dollar, MikeC., Ash and the other thousand people in your f**kin’ head after you down your home made hooch.

  • the real john t

    puck30 said:
    I’m also Grannie, Johnny Dollar, MikeC., Ash and the other thousand people in your f**kin’ head after you down your home made hooch.

    Yep, you’re one of the Dollarettes.

  • the real john t

    puck30 said:
    people in your f**kin’ head after you down your home made hooch.

    Hey, I’m not the one that has an avatar beside my name of someone that looks like it’s losing it’s mind. You seem to come on here and pick me out the first thing. Now who’s got who in their mind?

  • skyfet

    He needs help, those of you that see him as your Messiah also need help. Deteriorating in your eyes daily n TV, must have an effect for his followers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thorkil-Kowalski-Vrge/566276352 Thorkil Kowalski Værge

    Moses and/or Yoda of course.

    And to all the progressives: Can’t you start debating instead of repeating the same old lie that conservative ideas are for illiterates. A lie does not become true just because you repeat it.

    And just one question: Who was it that made sure F. A. Hayek’s Road To Serfdom ended up on the Amazon bestseller list? Glenn Beck. Surely he does not make people stupid and surely he is not stupid himself.

  • Nacho

    Thorkil Kowalski Værge said:
    Moses and/or Yoda of course.

    Fitting, a false prophet playing the part of a prophet on TV or even better, playing the part of a made up all knowing intellectual…

    Don’t you get that the joke is on you?

  • Probably NOT wrong

    OK Mediaite!
    Time to post a NEW Glenn Beck Headline.
    The left nuts these have about worn this one out.
    200 comments are a plenty for one thread.
    You folks watch the Super Bowl tomorrow, eat some wings,
    have a cold one and, for Gods Sake, PLEASE think up some
    NEW insults!!

  • Pablo

    Calvin said:
    Now, the anaylsis of those videos can be opinion, and you can disagree with that.

    You know what, though? Most of those type videos are the only thing in the post, titles excepted. There often is no analysis, just the video of the speaker and their own words. They don’t even transcribe them. They just post the video and make you take it from there.

  • Pablo

    Nacho said:
    Fitting, a false prophet playing the part of a prophet on TV or even better, playing the part of a made up all knowing intellectual…

    Don’t you get that the joke is on you?

    Don’t you get that you don’t get the joke? I know, comedy is hard.

  • Eshvish

    Pablo said:
    Great, Why don’t you tell us what they are, as opposed to what they’re not.

    Cupcake, the burden of proof rests on gullible fools who lack a rudimentary of understanding and scholarly work needed to expound on these subject matters, yet they are harping and chest swelling because certain narratives fit their conspiracy theories. Where is the credential of blowhards who you so eagerly sniff after?

    The Muslim Brotherhood of “Egypt” is largely known as loosely connected factions that provide social programs; ideologically and tactically, they don’t have a political, and most definitely no militaristic, clout like Hezbullah of Lebanon. They don’t seek theocracy but rather a voice in democracy. Now we have credulous folks who jump on a bandwagon of “radical Muslim” boogieman concocted by the far right.

    Your kind has imprisoned itself in this bubble of punditry who marches to its own drum, divorced from facts. Teanuts’ mentality has become a disease in this country.

  • notsofast

    Snowspot said:
    There can’t be several versions of the truth…

    Then why do we have more than one religion?

  • notsofast

    GB: American hero, icon and patriot.

  • Pablo

    Eshvish said:
    The Muslim Brotherhood of “Egypt” is largely known as loosely connected factions that provide social programs; ideologically and tactically, they don’t have a political, and most definitely no militaristic, clout like Hezbullah of Lebanon.

    Did Hizbullah say they wanted to take Lebanon over at their inception? Or did that happen a bit more progressively?

    Eshvish said:
    They don’t seek theocracy but rather a voice in democracy.

    Why don’t you peruse their bylaws and try that again, genius? Facts, they’re in there.

  • Pablo

    Eshvish said:
    Your kind has imprisoned itself in this bubble of punditry who marches to its own drum, divorced from facts.

    BTW, where did you get those “facts” you were just telling us? Who fed you that bullshit?

  • notsofast

    Eshvish said:
    he Muslim Brotherhood of “Egypt” is largely known as loosely connected factions that provide social programs; ideologically and tactically, they don’t have a political, and most definitely no militaristic, clout like Hezbullah of Lebanon. They don’t seek theocracy but rather a voice in democracy. Now we have credulous folks who jump on a bandwagon of “radical Muslim” boogieman concocted by the far right.

    LOL

    I thought naïveté such as yours existed only in fairy tales.

  • Dsiscokid

    atreyue said:
    I’m not going to debate this with you, because I don’t believe that the outlook you seem to be professing allows for any intelligent oppositional debate.

    I could same about you with all due respect, but I will digress

    atreyue said:
    I respect your belief in your religion. I personally am a little more old school and believe more in being Christ-like than adhering to any religious strictures, as any religious institution by necessity is more concerned with it’s own survival than spirituality.

    How would one even know about Jesus Christ and His life and teachings without reading about Him in the Bible?

  • Dsiscokid

    ProgLib said:
    is that after the part where it talks about shellfish being an abomination?

    After. BTW- A text taken out of context is a pretext. But don’t let facts get in the way of a good arguement, ProgLib……..

  • ImNotBlue

    @ John

    Really? You think my saying the “angry left” is name calling?

    Which part?!

    I say “angry left” to make it clear I’m not talking about all Democrats, or even all Liberals. I’m talking about the always outraged haters, who have no tollerence or respect for anyone but themselves and their opinions.

    Get it?

  • Socialist

    Dsiscokid said:
    From what I’ve read over the years, after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the Allies (US, Britain, USSR, etc.) set the political boundaries without any consideration for ethnic and/or tribal loyalties. Thoughts?

    Definately doesn’t work..

    Look at Africa, A lot of problems caused there lead all the way back to its colonization. Africa was divided based on region and without any consideration on the natives etc.. At this point we can’t really do much about it, and we just have to let them slowly assimilate and we have a role in intervening in Africa to demote violence.

    But when it comes to the whole Arabic region, at this point, they have almost assimilated however, I mean we don’t really have tribes in Saudi Arabia anymore and its just one country.

    When it comes to Middle East, Islam has pretty much superseded the need for tribes in that area. All the extremists in that area talk about creating an Islamic Caliphate. But these extremists wouldn’t have been strong in the first place if we didn’t arm them during Soviet invasion of Afganisthan. This is the cost of intervention.

  • writer

    Just wait till that bombshell drops, boy. Beck will be….DESTROYED!!!!!!!! Bwwwwaaaaaahhhaaaahaaahaaaa!!!

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Eshvish said:
    Cupcake, the burden of proof rests on gullible fools who lack a rudimentary of understanding and scholarly work needed to expound on these subject matters, yet they are harping and chest swelling because certain narratives fit their conspiracy theories. Where is the credential of blowhards who you so eagerly sniff after?

    The Muslim Brotherhood of “Egypt” is largely known as loosely connected factions that provide social programs; ideologically and tactically, they don’t have a political, and most definitely no militaristic, clout like Hezbullah of Lebanon. They don’t seek theocracy but rather a voice in democracy. Now we have credulous folks who jump on a bandwagon of “radical Muslim” boogieman concocted by the far right.

    Your kind has imprisoned itself in this bubble of punditry who marches to its own drum, divorced from facts. Teanuts’ mentality has become a disease in this country.

    That’s funny, because I’d read in passing the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt (sans quotes) was founded as a reactionary Islamist organization that spawned revolts, assassins and terrorists in addition to their “good works” (quotation marks) long before the last two weeks, but perhaps that’s because I’d already studied the region. Unlike those of the left, perhaps, who only heard about the organization last weak in mitigating terms from their echo-chamber. Then, as usual, assuming the right was as intellectually lazy as themselves, and to stroke their own egos over their presumed new-found intellectual superiority, hypocritically accused them of never having heard of the Muslim Brotherhood before Beck or Hanity let those two words slip.

    The left’s Ignorance is showing once again. It’s as obvious as it is sad.

  • potvin

    “Let my people go!”

  • ProgLib

    Dsiscokid said:
    After. BTW- A text taken out of context is a pretext. But don’t let facts get in the way of a good arguement, ProgLib……..

    Let me guess, you conveniently ignore the parts about shellfish or eating animals without cloven hooves while being a staunch opponent of homosexuality because that is clearly an abomination.

  • Lindaspy

    This guy is a loon!!! Period.

  • Dsiscokid

    atreyue said:
    You say delusional, I say he’s the scariest guest that Beck has ever had on his show. That definitely wasn’t where Beck thought he was going when he was talking about the spiritual solution.

    17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
    18As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
    19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
    20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
    21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
    John 17:17-21

    Acts 1:8
    But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

  • Dsiscokid

    ProgLib said:
    Let me guess, you conveniently ignore the parts about shellfish or eating animals without cloven hooves while being a staunch opponent of homosexuality because that is clearly an abomination.

    No, I’m not under the Law as an O.T. Jew was to be according to Leviticus. The N.T. still condemns sodomy (Romans 1:26-28 and 1 Corinthians 6:9). God destroyed cities (Sodom and Gommorrah) for their wickedness (Gen. 13:13). BTW- That was before the Law and Moses.

    9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
    10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
    11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

    1 Cor. 6:9-11 in context

  • Dsiscokid

    Dsiscokid said:
    11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

    Paul was writing to those in the Church who thought you could be saved and still live in your past sinful lifestyle, i.e. – “And such WERE some of you.”

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    BECK: “In case you haven’t been frightened yet, you will be. You will be.”

    There may be lots of reasons why Beck is still working at Fox, and none of them have anything to do with journalistic integrity. Beck is the cornerstone of the Murdoch propaganda and fear-mongering machine. Beck here claims that he’s the only one telling the “truth,” but that is laughable on all levels. Idiotic sheep my believe his nonsense, but no one, inside or outside of Glenn Beck’s circle of jerks believe his utter nonsense.

    Only baboons believe this buffoon, and that’s being civil. I could have called them sheeple or the mammals that follow the pied piper.

  • ProgLib

    Dsiscokid said:
    No, I’m not under the Law as an O.T. Jew was to be according to Leviticus. The N.T. still condemns sodomy (Romans 1:26-28 and 1 Corinthians 6:9). God destroyed cities (Sodom and Gommorrah) for their wickedness (Gen. 13:13). BTW- That was before the Law and Moses.

    9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
    10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
    11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

    1 Cor. 6:9-11 in context

    OK, I counter with this from the NT then: But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters. Peter 4:15 My interpretation – leave people the heck alone

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    It’s really hilarious hearing right-wing people say the left is lying XD

    Open your eyes idiots, you’re on the wrong side of history/morality.

  • CAconservative

    SNOWSPOT:

    What history/morality are you talking about?

  • jim bronson 990cc

    Okay, where is “the substance in the last few minutes”?

  • BigLeagues

    How come NO ONE has called Mediaite here for not knowing that Beck’s costume is YODA, as in Star Wars? Beck even uttered the famous line from Empire Strikes Back: “You will be, you will be”. That’s what Yoda said to Luke when Luke said he wasn’t afraid to face the Emperor (aka Chancellor Palpatine – leader of the Empire).

  • beavoux

    BigLeagues said:
    How come NO ONE has called Mediaite here for not knowing that Beck’s costume is YODA, as in Star Wars? Beck even uttered the famous line from Empire Strikes Back: “You will be, you will be”. That’s what Yoda said to Luke when Luke said he wasn’t afraid to face the Emperor (aka Chancellor Palpatine – leader of the Empire).

    Oh! Ok.. NOW it all makes sense. Sheesh.

  • Eshvish

    Pablo said:
    Did Hizbullah say they wanted to take Lebanon over at their inception? Or did that happen a bit more progressively?

    Hezbullah’s inception solely was a result of Israel’s occupation of southern Lebanon, albeit to combat PLO, and the ensuing civil war afterward. They were “left” there as a buffering forces against Israel by “Syria.” The politicization of its revolutionary beginning was just a natural course to its raison ďētre. Therefore, their introduction into the political, and militaristic, spectrum of Lebanon was not through a democratic process. All these elements are entirely different from what Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt is facing today.

    You have fabricated a false dichotomy that the choice is either between a dictator or Al Quaida–get a clue. MB doesn’t comprise a voting block of more than 15% to 20% of over all make up of Egypt. If their religious goals are so radical, then one must look no further than the Christian evangelists who make up of 70 million Americans. We must all bemoan because they seek to see this nation as a “Christian” one, then claim “democracy” could never persists for their religious fervent–reality tells us something else. Try again.

  • Eshvish

    notsofast said:
    LOL

    I thought naïveté such as yours existed only in fairy tales.

    While you dabble in your feigned fairy tales of projection, I was totally cognizant of the fact that being absent-minded apparently is prominent among many of the credulous citizens of this country.

  • Eshvish

    Paleoconservatarian said:[...] but perhaps that’s because I’d already studied the region. Unlike those of the left, perhaps, who only heard about the organization last weak in mitigating terms from their echo-chamber.

    Wait a minute, I thought it was your master puppeteer, Glenn Beck, who clamored a day ago about unification of “Communists” and “Muslims” in fight against America (his not anyone else’s). So I suppose those Lefties (sorry, I’m an independent) must have known about MB for many decades as they are practically a cooperative force fused from the heap *roll eyes*

    But then again, Beck’s averment is a strange one due to the fact of his un-American proclivity to maintain the status quote and keeping a dictator in power. You forgot to march in sync soldier. Watching cable news and listening to the polluted airwaves of AM radio do not constitute one’s erudition. Perhaps you should study a region of your brain that has caused your intellectual torpor.

  • Pablo

    Eshvish said:
    Hezbullah’s inception solely was a result of Israel’s occupation of southern Lebanon, albeit to combat PLO, and the ensuing civil war afterward.

    Right. Syria had NOTHING to do with it. Iran? Pshaw! It was just Israel and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE!!!

    You have fabricated a false dichotomy that the choice is either between a dictator or Al Quaida–get a clue.

    I have? Without even mentioning either a new dictator or al-Qaeda? Where? Facts! Get some. Bullshit. Lose it.

    My problem with the Egyptian pro-democracy folks is that they have no plan and no leadership. They need both and they need to find them soon. They have a historic chance here, but chaos is not an answer.

    MB doesn’t comprise a voting block of more than 15% to 20% of over all make up of Egypt.

    And, once upon a time, Hizbullah wasn’t more than 15 to 20% of Lebanese. Now they’re running the place.

    If their religious goals are so radical, then one must look no further than the Christian evangelists who make up of 70 million Americans. We must all bemoan because they seek to see this nation as a “Christian” one, then claim “democracy” could never persists for their religious fervent–reality tells us something else. Try again.

    Blah, blah, blah, blah. America ain’t Egypt. America does not have a Christian Fundamentalist Party with 20% support. In fact, America does not have a Christian Fundamentalist party at all. It only has Christian fundamentalists who want a voice in our democratic process. Ta da! Try again.

    Oh, and I notice you didn’t address where you stepped on a rake over what the MB is about, nor did you tell us where you got that false and foolish idea you were explaining to we deluded rubes. Why is that?

  • Pablo

    Eshvish said:
    Wait a minute, I thought it was your master puppeteer, Glenn Beck, who clamored a day ago about unification of “Communists” and “Muslims” in fight against America (his not anyone else’s). So I suppose those Lefties (sorry, I’m an independent) must have known about MB for many decades as they are practically a cooperative force fused from the heap *roll eyes*

    Sure. there is no connection whatsoever between the Muslim Brotherhood and the American left and never has been. Uh huh.

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    Sure. there is no connection whatsoever between the Muslim Brotherhood and the American left and never has been. Uh huh.

    Why would a group of mostly atheists hang out with the Islamic Brotherhood?

  • Pablo

    valkyrie101 said:
    Why would a group of mostly atheists hang out with the Islamic Brotherhood?

    Good question. Maybe you could look it up. Keep an eye out for Israel when you’re doing so. .

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Eshvish said:
    Wait a minute, I thought it was your master puppeteer, Glenn Beck, who clamored a day ago about unification of “Communists” and “Muslims” in fight against America (his not anyone else’s). So I suppose those Lefties (sorry, I’m an independent) must have known about MB for many decades as they are practically a cooperative force fused from the heap *roll eyes*

    It seems to have escaped you that there might be a distinct between the ignorant lay liberals and casual contributors to various blogs, to whom my comments were mostly directed, and the politically adept professional organizers that are the subject of conjecture regarding involvement in the ongoing revolution, both of which fall under the general auspices of the ‘left.’

    And it also seems to have escaped you that that to which I responded, and that to which your response was concerned, was to the Muslim Brotherhood and it’s proven nature. So to bring up now the connection to the radical left is an obvious red herring. Even so, It would seem to have escaped you that any such coordination between the MB and radical leftist elements need not have been decades in the making but might possibly be of relatively recent genesis.

    So many things having escaped you, it’s not hard to understand how you could fail to grasp the concept of two forces, of divergent and competing ideologies, temporarily aligning themselves to overcome a shared, substantial obstacle. Considering this, you have therefore probably never once heard of American support of the mujaheddin. Such, if true, would indeed be worthy of the rolling of eyes.

    Eshvish said:
    But then again, Beck’s averment is a strange one due to the fact of his un-American proclivity to maintain the status quote and keeping a dictator in power.

    An unsupportable depiction counter to his actual position, but that’s probably escaped you as well.

  • Pablo

    Pablo said:
    Keep an eye out for Israel when you’re doing so.

    The really short answer for that is that America supports Israel. It’s far more complicated than that, but that’s a fact.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    The only people who do not readily grasp that Glenn Beck is an ignorant, bald faced liar are his loyal fans who are too biased to comprehend when Beck lies and don’t want face up to the truth. Glenn Beck lies about Van Jones, about Obama, about progressives and the Progressive Era and even about telling the truth even! The latter makes Glenn Beck a hypocrite, not just that one time though, but over and over again, Beck demonstrates that he’s an amoral, blatant hypocrite! Who follows Glenn Beck? “Christians” who have lost their way.

    Beck took one college course on the history of religion and dropped out. He has spent his entire life working hard and preparing to be a huge radio star, not studying political theory, world politics or political science. Beck is not much more than an amazing performance artist and an extremely convincing demagogue with ideas that Republican, President Eisenhower considered “stupid” in his days as President. Glenn Beck demonstrates repeatedly that he has virtually no understanding of political language or ideas or Islam or Egypt. Beck is a yellow propagandist who comes across as sincerely interested in the country but his motivations, according to Beck’s biographer, Alex Zaitchik, “are, and have always been, money and fame. If Beck has a true religion, it’s not Patriotism. It’s not Mormonism. It’s cross-platform self-marketing.”

    Beck is really good at selling snake oil, and he’s shown repeatedly in the past that he loves using props to do so. How takes this clown seriously? A small percentage of reactionary, ignorant Americans so blinded by their love for him that they cannot see or hear that Beck lies routinely and worse, demonstrates hypocrisy routinely enough to readily grasp that he really has no principles aside from, of course, that the rich should dominate society and the gov’t should get out of the way to allow that to happen no matter what the cost to safety or security.

    Beck is a backward looking know-nothing for the ignorant reactionaries. Luckily, we surround them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/George-Langley/602635535 George Langley

    Explanation of the cape and staff.
    Beck actually got in two characters. First, he was Moses in Egypt. Isn’t that obvious?
    But then he turned into Yoda warning Luke that he would be frightened in that cave up ahead.

    I have to say that this was Beck at his best (a very, very rare thing).

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    Good question. Maybe you could look it up. Keep an eye out for Israel when you’re doing so. .

    Isn’t it the American evangelical Christian right that believes that Israel must be crushed, as part of the last days scenario playing out?

  • Dave Richards

    Beck pisses off the left. For that I am happy. Anything else is just entertainment. Frankly I can’t watch the man but as long as the left hates the guy it’s all good.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Dave Richards says:
    “Beck pisses off the left. For that I am happy. Anything else is just entertainment”

    If everyone understood Beck as a mere entertainer, including Murdoch, then Beck would be no more notable than any other actor. The problem isn’t that Beck is a charlatan, the problem is that others follow him as if he knows what he’s talking about. The problem with Beck is NOT his reactionary nonsense that dismays more than it pisses off; it is that he lies about what he conveys. The problem with Beck is not his principles; the issue that his followers can’t seem to grasp is that he doesn’t have any principles that he doesn’t turn around and verbally violate.

    The problem with your shallow analysis, Dave, is that “anything else” in NOT “just entertainment.” Fox replicates the false memes that Beck formulates. His idiocy, because of the other propagandists at Fox, gets repeated there over and over until Beck’s idiotic ideas make it into the national discussion. In other words, Beck’s poison’s what needs to be a serious and intelligent discussion and understanding of what is happening in Egypt.

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/02/maddow-discusses-becks-toxic-nonsense.html

  • Pablo

    valkyrie101 said:
    Isn’t it the American evangelical Christian right that believes that Israel must be crushed, as part of the last days scenario playing out?

    Is it? That’s news to me. I thought we’re all supposed to get whacked. Maybe you could look that up too.

  • Dave Richards

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Dave Richards says:“Beck pisses off the left. For that I am happy. Anything else is just entertainment” If everyone understood Beck as a mere entertainer, including Murdoch, then Beck would be no more notable than any other actor. The problem isn’t that Beck is a charlatan, the problem is that others follow him as if he knows what he’s talking about. The problem with Beck is NOT his reactionary nonsense that dismays more than it pisses off; it is that he lies about what he conveys. The problem with Beck is not his principles; the issue that his followers can’t seem to grasp is that he doesn’t have any principles that he doesn’t turn around and verbally violate. The problem with your shallow analysis, Dave, is that “anything else” in NOT “just entertainment.” Fox replicates the false memes that Beck formulates. His idiocy, because of the other propagandists at Fox, gets repeated there over and over until Beck’s idiotic ideas make it into the national discussion. In other words, Beck’s poison’s what needs to be a serious and intelligent discussion and understanding of what is happening in Egypt. http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/02/maddow-discusses-becks-toxic-nonsense.html

    In the whole scheme of things Becks influence is negligible. Those who follow him are also negligible. Why anyone from the left waste’s their time talking about him is beyond me.

  • Mr B

    Dave Richards said:
    In the whole scheme of things Becks influence is negligible. Those who follow him are also negligible. Why anyone from the left waste’s their time talking about him is beyond me.

    The left can’t quit Glenn Beck. He keeps exposing them for whom they are.

    Another example of where Glenn Beck was right: http://biggovernment.com/prahe/2010/06/27/walter-lippmann-on-progressivism/

    “Beck is not simply an entertainer. He and his audience love American history. They are hungry for new ways to interpret current events. And Beck is creating, in Amity Shlaes’s words, “a competing canon” of texts and authorities. This competing canon is not content to assault contemporary liberalism, but rather deconstructs the very foundations of the New Deal and the Progressive Era.

    On the Progressive Cancer in America: “When he refers to progressivism, Beck is not only highlighting the liberals’ latest name for liberalism. He is referring to the ideas of John Dewey, Herbert Croly, and Walter Lippmann. According to Beck (and many others), these early 20th-century thinkers believed that there is no such thing as natural right. The Constitution, in their view, was not equipped to deal with the complexities of modern society. ”

    Why Media Matters hearts Glenn Beck: http://bigjournalism.com/jdunetz/2011/02/06/a-case-study-how-media-matters-invents-bigotry-charges-to-protect-soros/

    “See my conundrum? I can understand how George Soros, Media Matters and the rest of the progressive army would exploit anti-Semitic bigotry to discredit Glenn Beck and protect George Soros; its just their desperate attempt to avoid answering the fact laid out by the Fox host, and a warning to others, not to follow in his footsteps. That is simply how the progressive Sugar-Daddy and his smear machine operates. But I can’t come up with an explanation as to why Eric Boehlert would ignore part of the story or mislead his readers, this guy is a professional , not simply some hack writer of progressive propaganda.”

    Glenn Beck is beating them. Hence the perpetual hate and attacks.

  • timcajun

    notsofast says:

    GB: American hero, icon and patriot.

    Nice bait!

  • Jayson

    Glenn Beck is sick. Mentally sick. I’m amazed that anyone believes what comes out of his mouth.

  • RowdyHoward

    Pablo said:
    Sure. there is no connection whatsoever between the Muslim Brotherhood and the American left and never has been. Uh huh.

    You find a picture of an activist and claim a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood. So weeeak.

    I’ll bet you wear a snuggie while defending your crazy little Mormon leader in the cloak.

  • Pablo

    Jayson said:
    Glenn Beck is sick. Mentally sick. I’m amazed that anyone believes what comes out of his mouth.

    It’s compelling arguments like this that will Win The Future!

  • Pablo

    RowdyHoward said:
    You find a picture of an activist and claim a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood. So weeeak.

    I’ll bet you wear a snuggie while defending your crazy little Mormon leader in the cloak.

    Rachel Corrie. Do you know who she was? Do you have any idea how she might show a connection between the MB and the left? Do you have some money you’d like to put behind that bet?

    Your ignorance does not make my argument weak. It just means that (SHOCKA!!) you don’t understand my argument.

  • RowdyHoward

    Pablo said:
    Rachel Corrie. Do you know who she was? Do you have any idea how she might show a connection between the MB and the left? Do you have some money you’d like to put behind that bet?

    Your ignorance does not make my argument weak. It just means that (SHOCKA!!) you don’t understand my argument.

    Yup, she’s an activist…and you would connect her to the entire left? I not a lefty, I just don’t like broad, shallow generalizations. Just as I don’t claim the right likes Beck…that would be crazy, because their are plenty of righty tighty’s that would agree that this creepy little man is bat shit.

    Don’t be such a baby

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryce-Havens/821962435 Bryce Havens

    I wonder how much they pay those poor people to shit in the audience and clap?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryce-Havens/821962435 Bryce Havens

    Haha, make that sit. But they probably do a lot of shitting too.

  • RowdyHoward

    Bryce Havens said:
    I wonder how much they pay those poor people to shit in the audience and clap?

    Bryce Havens said:
    Haha, make that sit. But they probably do a lot of shitting too.

    Hahahahahhahgagafassssfhsasvdxgsahv!!!!!!

  • BOMBSHELL

    GlennBeckReview said:
    The only people who do not readily grasp that my daddy is an ignorant, bald faced liar are his loyal fans who are too biased to comprehend when Beck lies and don’t want face up to the truth.

    You tell ‘em daddy…but is that what you REALLY wanted to say?

  • BOMBSHELL

    And heeeeeeere’s that BOMBSHELL.

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Only baboons believe this buffoon, and that’s being civil. I could have called them sheeple or the mammals that follow the pied piper.

  • leapinlou

    ProgLib,I don’t think you want to go there.

  • Pablo

    RowdyHoward said:
    Yup, she’s an activist…and you would connect her to the entire left? I not a lefty, I just don’t like broad, shallow generalizations.

    It isn’t a generalization. ISM is of the left. No, of course they’re not the entire left, and no one has said they are. But they are of the left and that you don’t like that fact is irrelevant.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Dave Richards says:
    “In the whole scheme of things Becks influence is negligible. Those who follow him are also negligible. Why anyone from the left waste’s their time talking about him is beyond me.”

    Uhhh, maybe the same reason that people on the right are starting to call out Beck’s irresponsible fear-mongering. Bill Kristol recently said, “But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He’s marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.”

    Beck is a deceitful, hypocritical charlatan. So long as he is on Fox and taken seriously be anyone, there is a need to expose him for what he is. Beck’s irresponsible rhetoric is to political discourse as the oil leak in the Gulf was to the ocean: a toxic mess and it’s well neigh impossible to plug it.

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    Is it? That’s news to me. I thought we’re all supposed to get whacked. Maybe you could look that up too.

    No, not everyone gets wacked.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Who follows and believes in Glenn Beck, the Yoda? in this act of his world famous show? Millions of gullible and easily manipulated sheep. Lincoln was right: you can fool some of the people all of the time. Glenn Beck shows the world how it’s done: http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/02/why-glenn-beck-isnt-crazy-and-millions.html

    The experts are speaking out: “Beck is ignorant about India and ignorant about the rest of the world.” Hey, who needs knowledge when your audience is so easily manipulated?
    http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2011/02/03/jk.dunne.kagan.cnn

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    It’s so weird: when my wife listens to Beck, she gets “an overwhelming feeling of evil” too. I asked her why, and she said that she could tell that he is a liar by HOW he speaks.

    I’m more empirical and philosophically trained. Beck lies and we prove this day after day. I have a long list of posts detailing Beck’s false claims, and I don’t post nearly all the ones I know about. I have a large unused file detailing many of Beck’s lies.

    Beck is on the wrong side of history again, but — not surprising — he was on the side of democracy in the Middle East in support of Bush’s war of choice against Iraq. He hasn’t changed his mind: Glenn Beck is a hypocrite through and through. I prove this with facts and logic over and over again. And this begs the question: why does Beck has such a large following?

    Yes, he’s persuasive and cunning and gifted. He’s also highly skilled at manipulating his viewers; Beck is a master manipulator. Why else would more of his followers not hear the lies I could detect before starting The Glenn Beck Review. He programs his viewers to dismiss any and all criticism of him, no matter how factual and unbiased, no matter how honest. This has led me to a recent re-evaluation of his intellect as of late. He’s still ignorant about the world, but he’s very bright, clever, gifted, persuasive and intelligent. It’s taken a while to see that, but the link about his manipulation skills forced me into rethinking just how smart he is.

    It’s still all about Glenn Beck. His motivations, according to Beck’s biographer, Alex Zaitchik, “are, and have always been, money and fame. If Beck has a true religion, it’s not Patriotism. It’s not Mormonism. It’s cross-platform self-marketing.” Those who do not grasp this about him, can not hear his lies or hypocrisies, do not recognize that this uneducated, ignorant man is a charlatan and yellow propagandist, are victims more than they are supporters. They are to be pitied, not respected.

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