I don’t agree with Herman Cain about OWS. I think mainly, the protesters want to see people prosecuted. Because it’s obvious to anyone other than a complete idiot that there was massive control fraud involved with the collapse of the largest banks on Wall St.

That being said. He is absolutely right that those in the establishment media love the narrative of Black people being unable to think for themselves.

Hey, Cain, how about you spend less time trashing other blacks and spend more time trying to explain that insane, incomprehensible 9-9-9 program of yours? (No one else has been able to.)

Yet, you told us Herb, just the other day, that you can get Black Walnut ice cream in a cup or a cone. Apparently, you misled us.

herman cain says there is no racism and no reason to fail in america–he says if you are poor–it is your fault.

so–HERB cain needs to come out and admit that black people are more stupid and lazy than white people..
that is why they are poorer with less education and wealth..
he also needs to admit that black people are more apt to be criminal due to a large black prison population..
fox news also needs to come out and back him up..

if they do not–then their argument is—STUPID AND WITHOUT LOGIC OR PREMISE..
in other words–it has a false premise and flawed conclusion…

(like that is any suprise)
come on cain—admit it….Niggas are lazy Bztards…
or are you a coward? and fraud? and a phony? like others in your party?

Hmmm….whom to side with? On the one hand we have a black man who grew up in the Jim Crow south and became an executive and CEO in a big corporation. On the other hand, we have a black man (Belafonte) who grew up in the Caribbean and whose only contribution to mankind was singing “tally me banana”. Think I’ll side with Mr. Cain. BTW, Harry–lay off the facelifts. You look like a black male Nancy Pelosi–and it ain’t working for you. 

It’s funny how Herbie is so busy focusing on ‘job creation’ he doesn’t have time to learn the names of world leaders but he has plenty of time to run around to all the talk shows to address every bomb-thrower who attacks him.

This man is chasing the limelight, not the presidency.

You people are hilarious.  The mere act of opposing a stance 0bama takes on any given subject is grounds for racism charges.  Yet anything can be said about Herman Cain by any number of lunatic liberals and it’s brushed off.  The left’s hypocrisy and inherent racism is clear for all to see.  The wheels are coming off Loons, your train wreck is occurring in slow motion all across the comically contrived MSM.

I’m a free, and free thinking, black man, with a Masters of Science and a character of which I’m proud and will fight tooth and nail to defend you Harriet Beecher Stowe Cartoon! Look it up! How dare this clown insult me as means of soliciting my support. Belafonte and others are leftist activist yes, just like there are activist on the right. Not agreeing with your dumb ass does not mean brainwashed you Evangelical piece of excrement.

cmon bro…dont let your post deteriorate into your own racist hatred

At about the 3:01 mark he again implies that race is not an issue because he claims to not have seen it. If this is what he wants to stake his racial positions on then it makes it really easy for me to come to the conclussion that he is wrong, because I have seen it.

Spoken like a true gentleman and scholar.

Spoken like a true gentleman and scholar.

I agree. Keep it classy.

Unfortunately, I don’t think he is even pursuing the vice-presidency. Wouldn’t that be great? Another Republican nominee loses because of his vice-presidential pick.

Judging by the comments apparently “Herb” is the new code word for Uncle Tom or some other insult.   Way to keep it classy libs.

What Cain said about the protesters was right on. Your points are good as well. Much of it is about seeing the right people prosecuted. In many cases that hits both sides but mostly democrats. The banking laws that the left pushed though to force banks to lend to those who were high risk played a big part of the banking collapse. And again Cain is right about the narrative of Black people being unable to think for themselves. I think you will see that changing soon.

uh–i am just quoting the conservatives–bro–
no liberal has ever said that poverty is a choice–
we have never blamed the masses for not being able to compete with the multi billoin dollars corps..
we never said that blacks were less in any way and never blamed any nonwhite group due to the obvious racism in america that limits people of color via jobs, opportunity and locale..
we base our arguments logically and on real facts and situations..
HERB said that there is no racism–and if you have no job–it is your fault..
so if more black people are unemployed–what is the reason? it is either because they are more stupid or more lazy–as per Herb..
unless you have another reason American Blacks are at fault for their plight?
i anxiously wait to hear your OTHER Black Failure excuse as to why they are not working..
we know what conservatives and fox news thinks–blacks are lazy and stupid—they just ‘imply’ it..they are much too cowardly to say it..

Is it me, or is it getting hot in here?  White hot!

You might want to stick to addressing the points each is making right now, if you want to stick up for Herman Cain. Comparing the histories, and who fought oppression, is a hands down losing battle for Cain. I can’t believe you wouldn’t look this stuff up before posting such a comment. Either that or you are trying to distort the truth.

its what palin called him

Nope. Do some more ciphering.

No – it’s what Sarah Palin referred to him as.  According to you, Sarah Palin thinks he’s an Uncle Tom, right?

Look it up.

http://conservativedailynews.com/2011/09/palin-herb-cain-or-whatever-his-name-is/

200+ comments, coming right up!

Still liking what I hear of Cain.

Someone’s got PDS and has race issues.

Racist right-wingers love any Black person that tells them that there is no racism in America now.

To have any chance in the Republican Primary Herman Cain has to appease the racist right-wingers. He knows what he is doing.

Since the only thing holding people back are their own attitudes I expect for Cain to abandon all attacks on President Obama based on the economy, unemployment, etc..

Idiot Post Of The Day

Correct. Which shows the liberals PDS.

I frankly love it!

Except that he knows he has no chance, so he’s just trying to sell as many books to those dopes and secure a contract on FOXnews.  I hear his new weekend show will be called Raising Cain, although Cain and Able came in at a close second…

ya–the republican party—
hahaha
will some one please explain what Herb was saying?
why are more blacks unemplyoyed? come on–you cons are so smart–if so many more blacks are not working and it is clearly their fault as per the conservative party—
what is the reason? where are the black folks failing?
what does Herb mean?

Hey Joe…  Where ya goin with that gun in your hand?

Oh come on quit it with your partisan BS. Obama ran on ‘HOPE’ and ‘CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.’  95% of blacks voted for him and now black unemployment is at 20%. However, people like Harry Belafonte, Cornel West, Larry O’Donnell, and Tavis Smiley would like everyone to believe that Obama and the Democrat party are the ONLY hope for Black America and that Cain is an idiot for speaking the truth and discrediting Obama’s policies!!

I love the PDS.

Keep it up.

Is it me or did you just make a grammatical error?

- This reply approved by Herb

And to the both of you …. let’s focus on the present state of affairs, please?

He’s right, black people should think exactly like the Koch brothers pay them to think!

Cain basically said that he never looked for discrimination… and guess what?  He never found it…  He was too busy making a success of himself…  get a life and stop blaming other’s for you failure…  I know that you like to tell the story of having an MBA and a successful business, well guess what this is the internet, so I am the chief rocket scientist down here at NASA…  

Expect Mr. Cain to be peppered with a few questions at the next debate.

Can’t wait to see “Black Walnut” melt under the intense heat!

You make no sense. And please learn to capitalize properly. You only end up making yourself look silly and uneducated.

Continue your PDS.

Overall yes. But I’m in the ABO group as it is.

Republican party: ABABMOAM

I guarantee you no one will ever get elected President of this country, no matter what their race, calling African-Americans brainwashed and living on the Democrat Plantation.
You might be quite used to that kind of dialog because you spend a lot of time on Right-wing websites but all these soundbites made by Cain will horrify most voters in a general election.

At least Michele Bachmann eventually learned to tone it down and listen to her handlers, not that it did much good.
Herb will never be any more than The Mouth That Roared.

You’re absolutely right!  It’s Obama’s entitlement attitude holding him back.

Seriously – stop typing. You don’t use the proper grammar skills necessary.

Nor could you even spell Abel right.

If they want to see people prosecuted, they should be protesting in Washington. The SEC, the DOJ, The White House. People aren’t going to be prosecuting themselves.

Why, because I decided to set this person straight on some bs he threw out there? I kow you like Herman, but it is what it is. Herman has not shied away from talking about race and referencing the past with his “plantation” talk. Well there you have it, now we are talking about it.

uh–i am just quoting the conservatives–bro–

No, you’re not. Own your hate.

The Kochs tell you what to think! They’ve been paying Cain to say stupid shit for over a decade.

Let me spell this out for you: Anybody But A Black Man Or A Mormon.

What are YOUR reasons for not liking Huntsman?

Cain hasn’t said that. I like people who aren’t lying morons. I don’t like you.

then lets pull down our britches and see who can measure up…
cain said that if you are not working–it is your fault..
ok–you cons with me so far?
more black people are NOT working that whites–many actually..
still with me? i have not lost you Wc have i?
now–if your failure is YOUR fault and blacks have a higher rate of failure or more risk of poverty–it is obviously their fault..
so–i just ask–why …
i think that is a fair question–
i can only see 2 reasons–lazy or incompetent….
is there something i am missing?
please enlighten me…

as far as my success?
on my taxes for 2010 i had $50,000 –is that ok? oh ya–that was what i paid in taxes! and that is after deductions~

Only one commercial needs to be made this election cycle. It includes the Obama administration, ATF and human blood.

Obama’s toast, regardless of the bad GOP candidates.

Hahahaha……still smarting over how much money you gave to Sarah Palin, eh?

Will Herman Cain be filling the void for you now? Also, is there any reason to spend time at C4P now?

“Obama’s toast, regardless of the bad GOP candidates. ”
_________________________________________
WCinWI: “The Palin campaign will be epic. The Left won’t know what’s happening.
I will especially love when Palin debates Obama. To shove it in your face alone.
————————————————

Leave the predictions to the professionals, ok hon?

i will–when you own your stupid sh!t..
what a loser..
do you have anything at all to offer that is based on reality?
i hope you get paid for this–

I have no clue what you’re talking about, but if we’re dealing in gibberish look up: SCoaMF.

But the difference with Cain is that he didn’t *let* race be a factor. He probably knew that people were prejudice considering the recent Civil Rights movement and the fact he lived in the 1960s South, but by applying his intelligence, skills, wit and people skills he was able to show that if you display positive skills and have an ambitious mindset, no ones going to look at you in terms of race. His life is a testament to that, you heard him state his resume. 

Hey guys and gals: I only need 5 more “likes” and I’ll have a total of (wait for it):

999 “likes”

:)

If I walk through a minefield without getting blown up it doesn’t mean that there are no mines in the field. You and I have talked before, and you know that I agree that you can’t just pack in the towel, but this talking point of Cain’s, that racism isn’t a problem because he was lucky enough (or blind enough) to not see it, is utter B.S..

ya–he kept his head down and played nice..
there is nothing wrong with that—but there is nothingn heroic about it either..

so he does not get to act like he took any beatings for the ’cause’…
he worked hard and became successful–good for him..
many people do in America—
but you do not get to be a hero while standing on the shoulders of those who took the beatings..

Can you publish your tax return…  provide a link maybe…  other than that you are just making that shit up.

And as far as all that other BS in your post…  as long as you blame someone else for your failure you will never amount to anything… Cain’s message is stop blaming and get to work making your life better that is the philosophy that any successful person lives by.

Cain is such a fool, a total azz. He’s going nowhere. Bum of the month.

And what I mean by my last comment is that if you believe the world is racist and out to get you, you’re not going to be motivated to succeed and show the world that you have positive skills and a go-getter attitude. If you believe that the skills you bring to the table are more important than the color of your skin — you will be in a much better position to succeed. 

I love it how 5 libs just responded ‘No, it’s what Sarah Palin called him’

Obsessed much?

they are protesting in washington

I love the ODS.

Keep it up.

The Palin campaign has been epic. She still lives in your minds.

I’m not ready to say she’s done either.

She’s over in South Korea right now. You and me are on some internet blog. Get over it.

Whatever Censure, I have a career of over 25 years in middle management for large corporations.. always as a unit or multi-unit supervisor, and never experienced it…  all we cared about was hard work and an attitude we could work with that would take care of our customers and build our businesses…  I have also experienced the other side of the coin….  the blamers those whose problems were always caused by some extraneous problem or was just simply caused by other co-workers….  those people never moved ahead, and usually turned out to be short-term employees..   But if you were to ask them they would have a list of reasons as to why things never work out for them, and never on that list would you find their own shortcomings.  

yes i have a copy of my taxes–and when can i see yours?
i have never blamed anyone for my failure..
i have fought national corporations, city governments, bands of wackos  and have won most of the time.
yes i have failed and it has been my fault—and i have succeeded and it was always with the inspiration of others…
i have been a millionaire 2 times–the first time at 30. i got paid the first time picking tomatoes at 7 years old. i have worked at least 1/2 time since i was 14 years old. I do agree that we all need to accept responibilty for our situation–but being a white boy from the midwest—i have watched several blacks and hispanics walk in and drop in an application to have it tossed in the trash–that is reality.
to deny it-is a lie.
as noted–for a black man to succeed ie Obama–he has to be better than the best white guy. I think it was Joe Lewis said, “I cannot beat just beat a white man, I have to knock him out.’..
racism is real–in the workplace, in the criminal justice system–and in the government—
how many blacks have been elected as a Republican in congress?
so quit the bs–if you are a serious person—do not be like the rest of the freaks who talk nonsense..
i believe you are smarter than that~

I never donated.

Bubble broken.

“But the difference with Cain is that he didn’t *let* race be a factor.”

Let me start off by asking the difference between Cain and what? Be careful where you tread.

If racism were as simple to defeat as those who are victims of it deciding not to “let” it be a factor, the first slaves wouldn’t have even set foot on this land. I will never advocate throwing in the towel in the face of adversity, but do not try to diminish the impediment racism can be even to someone trying their damnedest.

Stop stalking me.

And yes, I still visit the site. We don’t retreat, we reload.

You will never know the fear that blacks had living in the 1960s, so to treat Cain’s decision as so black and white (Forgive the pun) is dishonest. Was it Cain’s fault that Black Americans were subjected to racism and bigotry in the first place? Your post makes it seems so…. you don’t put the blame on the white people that first enacted and fueled the flames of segregation, racism, and ignorance. Instead you blame Cain for not acting when you will never know what he felt or what he was going through. And those that did participate actively weren’t doing it just for themselves, they were doing it for their race. To say that Cain is standing on the shoulders of those who fought makes it seem like you think the original freedom fighters were selfish. 

You will never know the fear that blacks had living in the 1960s, so to treat Cain’s decision as so black and white (Forgive the pun) is dishonest. Was it Cain’s fault that Black Americans were subjected to racism and bigotry in the first place? Your post makes it seems so…. you don’t put the blame on the white people that first enacted and fueled the flames of segregation, racism, and ignorance. Instead you blame Cain for not acting when you will never know what he felt or what he was going through. And those that did participate actively weren’t doing it just for themselves, they were doing it for their race. To say that Cain is standing on the shoulders of those who fought makes it seem like you think the original freedom fighters were selfish. 

I guess we can’t refudiate that, now can we?  Any time they write something about her in the papers, I read most of them with a great appreciation for the press.  I try to read all of ‘em – any of ‘em that have been around me all these years.  In fact, I have a vast variety of sources where I get my Sarah Palin news, there too also.

I guess we can’t refudiate that, now can we?  Any time they write something about her in the papers, I read most of them with a great appreciation for the press.  I try to read all of ‘em – any of ‘em that have been around me all these years.  In fact, I have a vast variety of sources where I get my Sarah Palin news, there too also.

Pablo – Watch out, literally, for Re-Elect. He/She has followed me online like a stalker.

It totally makes the new Breitbart post make total sense. :)

You’re right about slavery …. but in todays 21st century world, racism is purely superficial. People rarely act out violently or verbally being fueled by racism. I don’t believe it is as big of a problem as many liberals would like to believe. 

It’s only a problem if they share the attitude right? Theoretically what Obama does, or does not do, shouldn’t matter, right? Everyone of us should be able to go out and become millionaires in the next few years regardless of who is in Washington, right? Screw it. Let’s all boycott the elections, if that’s our logic. What’s the reason for voting if the sole determination of our success is our individual selves?

i know that the gop likes to think all they have to do is pat each other on the backs and claim to be heros without doing anything..
the texas minister said it best when he told why Mormanism is not christian—
for the gop–being a christian is to have blind faith-that is it. catholics and mormans demand works–you have to actually ACT like a christian..
so cain can use the words of MLK–hell–he can claim to be the incarnation of the man–but the truth is..
he was focused on making money as those on the streets got beat—-focuses on being free—so that Cain could actually be where he is today..
call me crazy–i just feel if you do not fight in the war–you do not get to call yourself a warrior..
but that never stopped conservatives who love to give themselves monikers based on who they feel they are—but never doing the work to earn it~

“Get over it. ”

Lemme get this straight……
You want us to “get over it” but you were gonna “shove it in our face”.

lmfao

“She’s over in South Korea right now.”

lol…she and Bristol are sight-seeing on your dime.

Another magnificent KKKlownitty BJ.

Anyone still wondering why Billdo refers to KKKlownnity as “just a gNOpig”

and why witch O’Donuts said Moose Boogers told her “go to KKKlownnity” and “I have KKKlownnity on my pocket”?

So as long as racism isn’t violent or overt, it’s all good?

Gotcha.

So as long as racism isn’t violent or overt, it’s all good?

Gotcha.

And……

Served.

Nerve struck. ;)

“Whatever Censure”

Don’t get disrespectful Fedup. You and I have had decent conversations, even when we’ve disagreed, in the past. There’s no need to go that route.

Here’s the deal. I am not denying your experience. You and Cain are using your experiences and projecting them onto the rest of us in an attempt to deny ours. Of course I don’t think everyone, everywhere, is a racist. That is why I can accept it when you say you didn’t experience it. We also know of those individuals who will make excuses. They come in all walks of life. I can acknowledge this while not denying the racial barricades that continue to block some that are less fortunate, and that I have witnessed.

I don’t know if you realize it or not, but every time you or Cain throws out the argument that you haven’t seen racism or been effected by it, it really comes across as you trying to present evidence that it doesn’t exist. I would hope that’s not the tactic you’re using, because if that’s the case then one side is clearly lying, and since I know what I have seen I know which side it is. If someone tries to tell me that something I’ve witnessed does not exists, it is a lot simpler to figure out which side of the argument is right as opposed to say debating foreign policy or the economy. 

Re-electobama is a sock puppet/stalker from waaaay back. Just ask “pious jeffy.” ;)

I think it is the ramifications of institutionalized racism you are underestimating. I think therein lies the key problem, not so much a case of people in sheets riding around looking for blacks to hang.

Herb Cain’s crash and burn will be immensely more enjoyable than Trump’s, Palin’s or Bachmann’s because you would figure teabaggers would have learned by now who is electable and who is a joke.

I guess learnin’ ain’t their strong suit.

Are you wearing a cape right now?

My perspective is close to yours with a few differences. This country established a system of racism. There is no getting around that. The ramifications are still with us, in ways we aren’t always aware of. Acknowledging this does not mean you can’t be motivated to succeed despite it. I’m not saying a “go-getter” attitude is guaranteed to overcome the obstacles, but it’s better to lose a race, your opponent was given a head start in, at the finish line, than to quit right off the jump.  

Yeah. I would have expected you and KKKlownnity to use all tongue and lips, keeping away the teeth.

Just like you do to your horsies, Jeffy.

I didn’t pay one penny for the trip.

Do go on though.

I just got home from work and who is the first poster BFD! Get out of your Mom”s basement and get a job! LOFUCKINGL

So not only can you not create your own word for it, you have to jank from someone else? Epic fail.

So Joe, where has the welfare system and the leadership of the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton taking us?  

In my mind probably the greatest American leader to have lived in my lifetime was Martin Luther King, but his message was very different than is Sharpton’s or Jackson’s..   There are no easy answers but the actions of the Democratic party over the last 50 years has not helped the Afro American population in this country…  if anything it has held them back… Other than the American Indians this is the minority that has been in this country longer than any other but they still lag behind, it is certainly not because they are inferior to anyone else, that myth was dispelled long ago…  and if you think that they have been treated worse than other minorities, I’m not buying it, I remember as a child in Miami, that there was little in the way that the Cubans or the Blacks were treated…  so just what is the deal Joe…  why is the black condition what it is in this country, as I agree it for many in our cities is deplorable, no one should have to live in the conditions that people have to try and raise their families in…  but who created this Joe, was it you? Was it me? Was it the Republicans? The Democrats?  Who was it and just what is to be done about it now?  More of the Same tired programs?  

The only way that people are going to get out of this mess is when they take the responsibility to do so, the government has proven time and time again that it only makes things worse…  And don’t you think that for a moment that the government is doing what it can for the Black community that is total BS..  They have used Plan Parenthood to keep the black population down in this country as they see no solution, and before you go crazy do some research and then do some math….  why is the black population in this country not growing?  Why will it be the latinos who will become the new majority…  take the time to do the math on the census numbers..  Don’t tell me that it is immigration, because that is not the right answer…

Joe it is easy for people like Pelosi and Reid to spend billions of dollars that is not theirs and that they do not care about as they are both millionaires many times over on ill begotten funds…  they can play the game of having the big hearts..  but as you look at the results of their policies and their lies, it is a wonder that African American’s support them at all, as their lot has only gone from bad to worse…  That is the plantation that conservatives talk of Joe…  a life of dependence because your political, and spiritual leadership gives you many reasons to believe that your problems in life are all caused by some invisible boogey man with his foot on your throat…  well guess what Joe, as you yourself said you will not get ahead if you accept that that is how it is going to be, people have to take responsibility for their own lot in life, and I am sorry about what you may have experienced but when I go out in public and interact in business environments I see a diverse group of people working for those businesses…

Take care Joe, your motivations are good, but IMO more of the same is not helping I would argue it will only extend the misery of those that the government intends to help, I half the time believe that the government does not really believe in their own programs but rather that they make for good politics.  

You know, I don’t even really give a rat’s ass if he wants to play hero. Just don’t try to shut the door you didn’t even have a hand in opening.

Trump, Palin and Bachmann never had a start. I have no idea what you’re smokin’.

“I guess learnin’ ain’t their strong suit”….says the guy with the Biden icon photo.

Oh, because you are the one who coined PDS or anything-derangement-syndrome?  Oh shutthefuckup and getthehelloveryourdamnedself.

He was responding to their trashing him.

OK Censure you make your point below, but I don’t think that Cain is saying that he never experienced it, how could he not have growing up in Atlanta during the time period that he grew up, he worked past it.  Censure nobody can do for you you have to do for yourself, I think that this is what Cain espouses..

Censure I have for most my adult life given deep thought to the problems of the inner cities as I have always thought that this would be the problem that would eventually disrupt our American society, I am not going to pretend to have any answers, but this is a problem largely created by our government, and it is a problem to which they have no answers…  just throwing money and new programs at it is not an answer either…. Rebuilding our economy will do more good than another governmental program, and this is Cain’s message, even if you don’t like it, that is his message, that in a strong economy there is little room for racism, as business will hire those who will be productive, it matters little what color their skin or their ethnicity as long as they bring a skill set to the job.  

I can’t decide if the OWS crowd is useful idiots or useless idiots?

Why is it that recent african immigrants have a higher rate of assmilation and upward mobility than recent asian immigrants?   Must be racism…

jank?

Uncle Tom was merely a fictional character, beloved by whites and despised by blacks in the classic Uncle Tom’s Cabin. The character elicits warm, fuzzy, happy slave sentiments in Whites. On the flip side of it, Uncle Tom’s sympathy and affection for his masters elicits loathing among blacks. Were there black slaves working in the slave trade and perpuating this babarity–yes. Is Herman Cain that type (or archetype)? Your guess is as good my mine, but he has the exact same traits and sentiments as that fictional character. So is that racist. Absolutely, positvely, not! And that’s the black and white of it.

Uncle Tom was merely a fictional character, beloved by whites and despised by blacks in the classic Uncle Tom’s Cabin. The character elicits warm, fuzzy, happy slave sentiments in Whites. On the flip side of it, Uncle Tom’s sympathy and affection for his masters elicits loathing among blacks. Were there black slaves working in the slave trade and perpuating this babarity–yes. Is Herman Cain that type (or archetype)? Your guess is as good my mine, but he has the exact same traits and sentiments as that fictional character. So is that racist. Absolutely, positvely, not! And that’s the black and white of it.

Racist !!

Where does Robert Stephenson find time to post under all those names, travel the globe, and attend OWS protests ??

The GOP leadership gives platform to this buffoon to deny the existence of racism. This is like a discussion about considering the women guilty for letting the rapers rape them. INFREAKINGSANE

Really bfd?! Do you stay at Mediaite 24 hours a day? Go protest and give you mom time to clean up the basement.

Really bfd?! Do you stay at Mediaite 24 hours a day? Go protest and give you mom time to clean up the basement.

I just said that too! lol

Herman Cain, twice the black man that Barry 0bama ever could be, and his wife loves America twice as much and Michelle ever could! Put Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson out to pasture.

Herman Cain, a race-baiters nightmare!

Why is it that the libs are always bringing race into the posts? I like Herman Cain more than any candidate I have seen in 20 yrs. So that makes me a racist. I disagree with Obama. So that makes me a racist. I guess all libs can kiss my rebel dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course with you he has to be twice the black man
unlike “REAL AMERICANS” who would just say twice the man.

lol….The Undefeated just hit the internet for download.

I didn’t realize it got a 1.5 rating on IMDB…

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1961604/

I love some of the reviews…

“Just witnessed the makings of our next President!”

This is going to be comedy gold!

bfd just checked your profile. 724 posts! Get a job you Big Fn Douche!

This Post Reminds Me Of A Shovel Ready Job !!  We Might Need A Team Of Shovels !!

Joe Now Holds The Record For The Mosts Posts Bragging About His “Income” !!!

Who Knew GovCo Paid That Much In Welfare ??

Hey, LEAVE HERMAN ALONE>. I want to see ALI vs FOREMAN 2.0; CAIN vs. BARACK for the heavyweight JOB OF THE WORLD..

Sadly, this time around, I really doubt Foreman (Cain) will do much better than the McCain did in the past.. UNLESS he picks a GREAT VP.. that way, Herm will get ‘removed” by some crazed dude from either pole and we will be left with the VP… Palin anyone?? Oh, yeah, that wont be a good idea, she’s already been on the wrong side of a OB BeatDown.. there has to be someone…

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Herman Cain is the perfect example of how white liberals have disdain for a black man, who doesn’t follow the white liberal script of, ‘we know what’s best for you, therefore, how dare you think for yourself?” Condi Rice and Colin Powell refused to follow the white liberal script and were also demonized by white liberals. White liberals in Washington have always used fear and intimidation, to ensure that blacks never stray from the Dems’ major voting bloc category. Personally, I would never suggest that the Republican Party is a better option for blacks, however, I would ask, how’s living on the white liberal plantation working out for you?’ Again, white liberals have no use for a person of color, unless they can control, manipulate, and brainwash them into being slaves of the white liberal mindset. My best advice for black victims of white liberals,  would be to run, not necessarily to the GOP, but run, run, run. An educated, successful, free-thinking,  black man/woman, is the worst nightmare of a white liberal. Last, but not least, look at Obama; white liberals in the House and Senate are calling the shots behind the scenes, not Obama. All they want Obama to do, is to play and have fun in the White House, while the ‘smart white liberals’ take care of business.

Herman Cain is the perfect example of how white liberals have disdain for a black man, who doesn’t follow the white liberal script of, ‘we know what’s best for you, therefore, how dare you think for yourself?” Condi Rice and Colin Powell refused to follow the white liberal script and were also demonized by white liberals. White liberals in Washington have always used fear and intimidation, to ensure that blacks never stray from the Dems’ major voting bloc category. Personally, I would never suggest that the Republican Party is a better option for blacks, however, I would ask, how’s living on the white liberal plantation working out for you?’ Again, white liberals have no use for a person of color, unless they can control, manipulate, and brainwash them into being slaves of the white liberal mindset. My best advice for black victims of white liberals,  would be to run, not necessarily to the GOP, but run, run, run. An educated, successful, free-thinking,  black man/woman, is the worst nightmare of a white liberal. Last, but not least, look at Obama; white liberals in the House and Senate are calling the shots behind the scenes, not Obama. All they want Obama to do, is to play and have fun in the White House, while the ‘smart white liberals’ take care of business.

Are people actually going to have this guy run a country? lol

Herman Cain, U R Da Man!

What, you don’t understand plain English? Cain has explained 9-9-9 more than once. You don’t get it, it’s your problem, your fault and your insane incomprehensibility.

So explain Herman Cain’s success. Michael Jordan’s. Condi Rice’s. Oprah Winfrey’s. Thomas Sowell’s. On and on and on and on and on. There were successful black entrepreneurs even during Jim Crow.Not that liberals would know anything about any of that.

I loveit when GOPers tell me about racism in the south. Smh. Hey Tom, youre doin a great job. You’ve just secured a job on Fixed News network.

I loveit when GOPers tell me about racism in the south. Smh. Hey Tom, youre doin a great job. You’ve just secured a job on Fixed News network.

Herman Cain can say whatever he likes, but it all boils down to whether or not when the crunch comes will Right Wing Republicans for a black man who says he’s one of their own.

We all wait with baited breathe to see if that will be the occurrence or will the history come into its own. 

Wall Street dont write laws, they operate according to the oversight and laws enacted by the US government. Barney Frank should be the one going to jail and at least some of the other folks on Capitol Hill not on Wall Street. The Banks didn’t bail themselves out, Obama did.

Proof once again (and for all) that Leftists are the TRUE RACISTS.

“You gotta be an OBEDIENT Black,” these Leftists are saying. Glad to see Cain bludgeoning these Leftist inbreds right back.

Yeah, but the problem isn’t at the Air and Space museum. Take it to the White House, the SEC, the DOJ.

That would be an “are,” not an “is.” When you use poor grammar to call other people idiots, you’re unintentionally participating in “irony.”

What he’s failed to explain is why anyone should take it seriously. His plan is nothing more than trickle up economics. Shift the tax burden to the middle class and working poor.

Hermain should learn that you don’t have to take every question, he should move off this issue as he did with Mormonism.

The “Democrat plantation” is the present, not the past.

Cain 2012!

You seem to forget that POTUS is a job, and we are the employer.

Like the underground railroad of old, Herman Cain will lead today’s black Americans off another Plantation – called the Democratic Welfare State!

For years blacks have voted almost exclusively Democratic, believing the Left-Wing Media’s “GOP is Racist” spin on every story.

So what has 60 years of Democratic Loyalty done for America’s black communities?

Is drug use down? Crime any better? Family units any better? Jobs any better? Schools any better? Random violence any better? Is your quality of life any better?

Simply put, are you better off now, having voted almost exclusively for Democrats over the past 60 years, than  other demographic groups around you who DIDN’T vote exclusively for Democrats?

Herman Cain is leading the Freedom March off today’s Democratic Welfare Plantation!

How sad for the black community; if you don’t live in the same world as the racist creeps like West, you are a nothing in their mind.  Cain is a self-sufficient individual and West and the rest of them don’t think that he should be; they want redistribution of the wealth, they want a nanny state, they don’t believe in self sufficiency.

How sad that idiots like West are given any air time to spew their hatred of all this country stands for.

Fortunately, the country is comprised of significantly more intelligent people.  Conservatives in the U.S. comprise approximately twice the number of Liberals.  Liberals represent the worst of society; just because they get the majority of coverage shouldn’t dishearten anyone. 

Vote out Democrats at every opportunity

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conservatives-outnumber-moderates-liberals.aspx

Racist

Actually, you are the one who doesn’t know the proper use of “are” and “is” … “are” would be used is Pablo had said “crowds” but since Pablo used the singular form of the word, Pablo was correct in using “is.”  

Progressives (Marxists/Socialists) are the championship axe wielders of class warfare and the slave masters of the Progressve plantation. 

Progressives are mutant maggot eggs; the oozing pustules of parasitic stupidity. They are the whining, heavy metal bagpiping sour lemon suckers of the world. 

BTW, what does “Occupy Wall Street” want? Let’s take a look at a few of their demands…

- $20 minimum wage – regardless of employment category
- Trillions of dollars in new spending on alternative energy and infrastructure 
- Debt forgiveness — all debt on the entire planet. 
- Outlaw all credit rating agencies
- Universal single-payer health care system 
- Free college education for everyone 
- Open borders – come one, come all! 

Getting the picture? These people are Darwin in reverse. 

Oh, and here’s a really great picture that pretty much sums up the Occupy Wall Street bowel movement, literally…   

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/08/article-2046586-0E481DB700000578-865_634x366.jpg

Calling a black candidate a “buffoon”?  According to three years of learning Liberal Logic, that makes YOU a RACIST.

Wow, you want to see a black candidate “crash and burn”? 

Liberal Logic states that your violent rhetoric and violent imagery toward a black man is RACIST.

Racist.

Racist.  Must be a Democrat, which is why he keeps posting the acronym for the racist Democrat group the KKK.

Calling a black man a bum, using Liberal Logic, make you a RACIST.

It sounds to me like you’re obsessed with Koch. Why don’t you go downtown and troll for some. Get it out of your system.

I guess the only question I have is: When Teapublicans tire of Black Walnut ice cream, whether in a cone or in a cup, where do they go next? The Half-Baked Alaskan is busy trading fart jokes with Larry the Cable Guy in Wasilla, T-Paw is regretting that his cajones were too small to stay in the race, Chris Crisco is busy (presumably with a meter long Philly Cheese Steak), Mad Michelle is not much more than the ring she left behind in the tub. One by one, they’re all gone. So, do the Teapublicans go back to Tollbooth, or do they just go home?

More left-wing racism.  All it takes is a Republican black man of achievement to bring out the lefts’ true colors, i.e., hatred, envy and racism.

I’m wondering if your orderly knows you’re on the computer again.

WOW, Cain is being “peppered”?  Why, because pepper and Cain are both “black”?  Racist.

Another lefty racist.

Forgive him; he ain’t that bright.

How racist of you!

So, you just want to see a black man fail. That’s racism straight up.

I think the “crunch” is when black voters realize they’ve been played for patsies, and taken advantage of by the Democratic Party – and their lapdogs in the mainstream media – for the past 60 years!

Cain is heralding that message loud & clear – and the Race-Baiting Overseers of the Democratic Party – and their lapdogs in the mainstream media – don’t like it one bit!

All lefties are lying morons.

More racism from another left wing bozo.

“I like Herman Cain more than any candidate I have seen in 20 yrs. So that makes me a racist. I disagree with Obama. So that makes me a racist.”

You’ve just been educated in Liberal Logic, my friend.

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oh wait…

If it were only so! – that this would be the “only” question we’ll hear from Real; but much like the President’s promises…
lol

Love it when these lefties show their bigoted, racist tendencies.

So effortlessly and deeply in love with the racial Planation Terminology…

It’s really not going to help win votes, but its a supposed winning strategy.Although the bigger point really, is whether the Republican Party all by its self and through its process will vote willingly for Mr Herman Cain in large numbers?Everything else right now is peripheral and meaningless until he wins in that Political Arena…

Go back and look at protests during the Bush years. The media and protesters were squarely focused on blaming the GOP for the economy. Now look at the protests. They are about blaming anyone BUT the Democrats and Obama. Where are all the anti-Democrat  and anti-Obama signs? They aren’t any! That’s your first clue that the OWS is nothing but a distraction from the party currently in power. 

‘Herman Cain is leading the Freedom March off today’s Democratic Welfare Plantation!’

…Wow!

Does Herman Cain know all this? 

Let’s see how he finishes in the Republican Nomination process first shall we.

Win votes?

The dynamic of Cain’s message in the context of the plantation analogy is the first salvo in changing a zeitgeist!

Witness this full-blown bigot on parade.

…Is that code for he won’t win the Republican Nomination after all?

you’re unintentionally participating in “irony.”

Do you need a graphical timeline to show you how cain was responding to bigoted blacks, or do you not mind spouting off at the mouth without understanding what the hell you are talking about

In the electorial realm, it means that 2008 was the apex of black voter support for Democrats.

Herman Cain’s message is articulating the obvious – The Emperor has no clothes!

Hey clown shoes, do you realize that the majority of the black community in America resides in states and municipalities that have been under the control of the democrat party for the last forty years?
 
I always attributed the lack of success you described to liberal policies encouraging apathy, victimhood, and dependandcy, but your comments make a good case for the stupidity argument.
 

‘In the electorial realm, it means that 2008 was the apex of black voter support for Democrats.’

That’s not necessarily borne out or supported by historical fact.

…However, let me put it another way.

In your estimation is Herman Cain going to win the Republican Nomination and make all these Republican dreams come true?

I paid a bajillion in taxes last year.  And there is no need to question this claim because no one ever lies on the internet…

The New GOP should implore other independent and conservative black Americans to tell their stories!

What a commercial that would be to run all of next year!

It would be exciting the TRUE empowerment of individuals, not the pseudo-empowerment of the Democrat’s “control groups”!

Here’s a question you should ask yourself Joe..

How many black democrats get elected in liberal white districts? 

The black republicans in congress were elected in predominatly white districts by white conservatives…..how many white liberals put black representitives into congres in their home districts?

Conservative Victimization Syndrome. Again. Poor victim!

How come replies are not always available for each post?

Cain would most likely get the VP spot, given the fact that Rubio has “Christie-like” removed himself from consideration.

There’s a ticket for the future: Christie-Rubio. 

Isn’t one of the points of the protests that Wall Street did NOT act in accordance with the law/ Here’s the rub: Willard tells us corporations are people, but guess what? Corporations don’t get incarcerated.

So Herman Cain making 400 fast food joints and an entire pizza chain go from financial insolvency to financial stability, sustaining the jobs associated with it as well, does less for “oppression” then Tally me banana man has done?

“It’s funny how Obama is so busy focusing on ‘job creation’ he doesn’t have time to learn the names of world leaders but he has plenty of time to run around to all the talk shows to address every bomb-thrower who attacks him.”

—-Wow…thats so cool.. Your comment works perfectly for our current president too!!!!

May I refer everyone to Detroit to see the endgame of the democrat’s Hope and Change for the black community.

… or Half-Baked Alaskan vacuity. 

In other words, you just talk the talk. But didn’t you go see “The Unhinged”? Or, were you freeloading?

Dropping out over a year prior to the election seems to be reloading. Yes. Sure. No doubt. Without question.

I love what you’re doing here!

‘How come replies are not always available for each post?’

…Technical difficulties/safe lock probably.

If he doesn’t win that may burst the bubble.
The expectation is being built that he will win and move onto the Presidential Political arena. 

Right now, he’s one of several vying candidates and that’s all. It’s a big ask and as you’ve just pointed out yourself, he could make Vice President. 

Given his story I’m not sure he would be satisfied with that…

Wow, I’ve been reading through these comments and I’m honestly blown away.  I’m a conservative and have even attended a tea party rally (the horror!).  Do you on the left honestly think we give two shits what color a persons skin is?  It’s almost funny if it weren’t so serious.  Think about who looks at a persons color, who is almost obsessed with skin color, it’s the left, not the right.  The right cares about results, working, getting ahead, maiking money and moving your kids up the ladder. 

I try to see both sides, but sometimes it’s about impossible, the OWS crowd for instance, it’s hard to figure them out at all.  Seeing them deny John Lewis a chance to speak was one of the sadest things I’ve ever seen. 

Now I can imagine all the haters and smarmy folk who hang on this site decrying my comments for one reason or another (did I miss a capitol letter?!), but try to take what I say to heart, we on the right are not the ones obssesed with skin color, and sure, Fox News has a conservative flavor, but the simple fact remains that the bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.  We were founded as a government of limited enumerated powers, we’ve strayed so far from that, it’s scary for many of us to think of our kids and their futures here.

Wow, I’ve been reading through these comments and I’m honestly blown away.  I’m a conservative and have even attended a tea party rally (the horror!).  Do you on the left honestly think we give two shits what color a persons skin is?  It’s almost funny if it weren’t so serious.  Think about who looks at a persons color, who is almost obsessed with skin color, it’s the left, not the right.  The right cares about results, working, getting ahead, maiking money and moving your kids up the ladder. 

I try to see both sides, but sometimes it’s about impossible, the OWS crowd for instance, it’s hard to figure them out at all.  Seeing them deny John Lewis a chance to speak was one of the sadest things I’ve ever seen. 

Now I can imagine all the haters and smarmy folk who hang on this site decrying my comments for one reason or another (did I miss a capitol letter?!), but try to take what I say to heart, we on the right are not the ones obssesed with skin color, and sure, Fox News has a conservative flavor, but the simple fact remains that the bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.  We were founded as a government of limited enumerated powers, we’ve strayed so far from that, it’s scary for many of us to think of our kids and their futures here.

There were successful Blacks during EVERY POINT of American History, including colonial times and during slavery.

 What’s your point?

–Cobra

Without of the efforts of Harry Belafonte and other Civil Rights Activists, those southern based “fast food joints” would still be SEGREGATED, and the closest Cain would’ve gotten to that corporate boardroom would’ve been sweeping up after the White executives.

 Or is there some DIFFERENT version of American History you want to tell us all about?

–Cobra

Oh my dear sweet Kerry. So sad that you know so little yet speak so much. Cain may have not liked Jim Crow laws, but to the best of our knowledge he did nothing to change him accept –go to the back of the bus and not make waves.

On the other hand, Harry Belafonte was an international superstar noted for popularizing Carribean music as well as a major movie star. Now here’s the kicker, my innocently stupid Kerry. Belafonte was a major voice in the civil rights movement and among those “celebreties” closest to MLK.

So applying simple rules of logic, we can deduct that Belafonte is more credible on this issues since he helped pass the Civil Rights Act with his activism. Sooooo, basically he is responsible for helping Cain achieve his goal of becoming a successful Uncle Tom (see my post below for an explanation of that usage).

Conservatives are woefully under-informed or misinformed on the parts of American history specific blacks. That’s while you’ll never get our votes.

So you’re saying Detroit was in great shape on January 19, 2009?

–Cobra

Cain is not saying that there wasn’t/isn’t discrimination-rather he’s saying HE would NOT let it stop him.

WTF. These people are hilarious. America is definitely re-booting. GOP meet the WHIGS. You’ll soon be following them into the dust bin of history. It was nice run though while it lasted. And you did give us Honest Abe. The funny things though is you’re now mostly a purely Southern Party, aren’t you? So Abe couldn’t get elected by your party today now could he. There’s that damn Southern Strategy bitin’ you in the ass again.

Congressmen are elected in “districts. If no blacks reside in, and run for office in the district, how can an African American be elected to congress?

The better question is how many black members of either party are in the senate?

How many black democrats are in the senate?

No, it’s an observation of progressive hypocrisy and foolishness. Poor Kook. Mental illness is a bummer, huh?

Grammar Nazi fail.

New Guy, for the lulz!

No, here’s the rub. The Obama Administration is responsible for enforcing the laws and if the laws are not being obeyed, then the Obama Administration is derelict…again.

Nothing funnier than a moron grammer cop that gets it wrong.

It’s your fault if you’re not one of them.

Yeah. There’s a whole lot of America that isn’t the South. There are lots of fast food joints that have never been segregated.

Did you know that the North won the Civil War?

Dammit, here we go again.

Teapublicans !!  Half-Baked Alaskan !!  Crisco !!  Mad Michelle !!  Toolbooth !!

*drink*

Nope, it was a shithole. Kwame Kilpatrick was having a ball, though.

“In this deceitful American game of power politics, the Negroes (i.e.,
the race problem, the integration and civil rights issues) are nothing
but tools, used by one group of whites called Liberals against another
group of whites called Conservatives, either to get into power or to
remain in power. Among whites here in America, the political teams are
no longer divided into Democrats and Republicans. The whites who are now
struggling for control of the American political throne are divided
into “liberal” and “conservative” camps. The white liberals from both
parties cross party lines to work together toward the same goal, and
white conservatives from both parties do likewise.

“The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative.
Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the
art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor; and by winning the
friendship, allegiance, and support of the Negro, the white liberal is
able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political “football
game” that is constantly raging between the white liberals and white
conservatives.”

Malcolm X – December 4, 1963

Cain lived in Atlanta – The City Too Busy To Hate.

http://tinyurl.com/628cqp8

Well said, and true.  I’m also a conservative and even the idea of racism made me sick to my stomach ever since I was a kid when, visiting a black friend’s home his parents (being very nice) made some comment that I don’t recall, but asked the friend about and the approx 6yr boy had to tell me about racism!  I was horrified.  His family was more middle class than mine (my mother was on welfare since my deadbeat dad chose not to pay child support on 5-kids) and his parents were professionals that I expect were better educated than mine.  I looked up to them and couldn’t imagine anyone looking down on them just because of the color of their skin.  That was when I was about 6yrs old and as far as I know was my first and most direct exposure to the idea of racism.   Maybe it was because I was exposed to how wrong it was at an early age, but I doubt it.  I’ve always abhorred unfairness and people being judged for circumstances they have no effect over, and have always had a negative opinion of bullies – I think that last part is why I’m a conservative since it seems just about every example we have in society of others forcing us what to do and not do its a liberal who’s pushing for government to restrict our choices – I admit though I could think of numerous examples where it’d be conservative principles that’d be seen as restrictive to the liberals, so the point isn’t absolute.

it seems strange,that the only totally black presidential candidate,is being attacked by the black people for being honest

it seems strange,that the only totally black presidential candidate,is being attacked by the black people for being honest

It was the Supreme Court that told us that corporations are people.  What type of law do you pretend to practice?

Apparently, it’s OK even if it is violent and overt.

http://tinyurl.com/6jvqtmz

A horse and mule are good transportation, however a modern vehicle is a lot better.  Your arguement about the activists and segregation is past tense, and you know it.  I’m from the deep south, and damn proud of it.  And I’m an historian, and can tell you all about the historical significance of segregation and integration.  At this point in time, not being educated and informed is your own problem, and literally proves your ignorance to say different.  When you have a tremendous group of people, who have new Mercedes and Jaguar’s, $200 tennis shoes and $150 athletic jersey’s, yet can flip you a Medicaid card faster than Roy Rogers in an old western……WHY would you want to get up and get a job???  The Democrats and the “we’ll help you” attitude of the government is as much as fault to this mind set as anything.

And a lot of those Civil Rights Activists were white and, among them, lots were Jewish.  Why is anti-semitism higher in the black community than in America as a whole?

Seriously Pablo? Cobra noted that there have been successful Blacks even during the colonial period and your direct reply is that if you’re not one of them it’s your fault? So I guess even the slaves should have worked harder, huh? To think I have been giving you the benefit of the doubt up until this point. This is disappointing.

And, using your logic, therefore the Republican Party is more credible on these issues since it help pass the Civil Rights Act with their votes in Congress, while the Democrat Party fought to block it.

The anti-education party is the GOP.  If you’re from the deep South and a historian, who can tell me all about the historical significance of segregation and integration, why are you happily bleating along with the White Male Power Structure propaganda of the conservatives who haunt this blog?

–Cobra

Do you deny that there is racism in the Jewish-American community?

–Cobra

If you are looking for the definition of House Negro, Herman Cain is it….

You really are exposing yourself today. Stop using stupid comparisons like “Democratic Plantation”. If Jewish people vote Democrat does that open the door to referencing concentration camps? I would hope the level of discourse in this country has not sunk that low.

To my original point, I have every right to call out the blatant attempt to discredit a civil rights leader by the poster above, especially in light of the fact that, judging by the number of “likes” his comment received, there are a lot of people ignorant of the history there.

Raist liberal on display.

But also a lot of truth and fact. You and all liberals have asked why the Tea Party all of a sudden focused on spending and debt after Obama was elected. You blamed it on racism (as usual). Now you’re doing that same thing. Everything was focused on Bush during his 8 years in office (by liberals). Now you’re only focused on Wall Street. Couldn’t the same accusation YOU made about the Tea Party now be made against the OWS crowd???

You are really ignorant on this subject. Go educate yourself on Harry. For you to minimize what he’s done as nothing more than “Tally Me Banana” is about as stone fucking stupid as someone asking me “who was Ronald Regan and what did he do?” and my reply being simply “He’s just some guy that was on Death Valley Days.”

Good point…

FAIL

Horrible spelling Tea Partier on display…or is the Tee prty?

The ignorance is amazing, is it not? What’s so sickening is that they are being willfully ignorant. I might not agree with everything Charlton Heston said, but I will always acknowledge and respect what he did for civil rights. I’m not going to try to diminish it because I might have happened to disagree with a position of his later on in life. I think W. Bush was a horrible president. He did great work on fighting AIDS in Africa. It’s called giving credit where it is due.

The fact is Belafonte got involved. Herman Cain chose not to. Herman Cain didn’t get involved then, so the black community does not need him preaching to them now.

Redlining.

So Cobra….you agree with the attitude of….extending unemployment benefits for 1 1/2 years, free healthcare, free food, free spending money, free, free, free…..you finish the statement.  If you do, invite them all to your house and you feed ‘em.  I don’t want to. Neither does anyone that I know. I say get off your butt and go to work, and get off the welfare system.  Democrats put the welfare system in place to recover from the Great Depression, and it wasn’t supposed to be a permanent solution, yet here it is continuing in the 21st century. Or….since you have the solution for this mess, figure out a way to find those people who actually support  this idea of “we’ll support you”…tax them as much as they will let you, and give THAT to these people who are too lazy to get up and go to work.  Leave the rest of us alone. I think you’ll find that THAT number will be significantly less than you think!!!

“Why is anti-semitism higher in the black community than in America as a whole?”

Where do you get that from?

At any rate I am glad that you brought up non-black activists during the Civil Rights Era. Those who did that are a special class of hero in my book. I will always respect the people who had nothing to gain, or even stood to lose, jumping in and doing the right thing. When you put yourself out there like that, when even some of those directly effected choose to hit the back of the bus, it speaks a lot to your character. I really think examples of these non-black heroes should become a part of the education during black history month. We could all stand to learn from their example.

Harry Belafonte is and always will be Harry Belafonte. Herman Cain is and always will be Herman Cain. Political Parties exists as nothing more than a dynamic construct in our heads. They are ever changing and hold no existence in and of themselves. If we all agreed tomorrow that there is no Democratic or Republican parties, that is the way it would be. They have no real existence beyond the conceptual. If we all decided there is no Harry or Herman, well, try as we might we would likely find ourselves looking rather silly as they stared at us wondering what we were trying to accomplish.

The country does OWE us something -
A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD!

You will never GET it you Oreo cookie.
Who WILL be crumbling soon enough.

There is not one ONE single candidate on the Republican scene that can beat him.
It’s areal problem y’all have.

NOT ONE.

Cain is rather stupid, isn’t he.

Racist rhetoric from another all-inclusive liberal.

How did you get to be so dumb?

Hannity, whose show topic is basically “Did you hear what the scary rapper said?” or “Now to present the view of the black community, living straw man and fringe nut Quannell X” night after night – wants us to believe he suddenly cares about black people?

Racist nit-wit in the house, ladies and gentlemen!

Order a pizza and go home.
An upper middle class  guy who had 2 professional working parents.
Oh the struggles Cain went through.

No I haven’t forgotten, but if I follow the line of logic presented here, why not do something really right wing and fire the whole damn government? We are all the sole masters of our destiny, right? Why pay the government to do what we can all do ourselves? Am I right?

I am not understanding the reaction of the left types on this. Aside from Mr. Cain being a successful conservative and republican, why all the sound and fury? No one expects ya’ll to support him, but hurl racer bs and ad hominem invective non-stop? What is the problem? If he is so unqualified or unpopular or no comparison to Obama and has no chance for the GOP candidacy much less a one on one win against O, why all the angst?

Jealousy.
All the ‘authority’ figures, doctors, teachers, shop owners and landlords in NYC were usually Jewish
They had to direct their anger somewhere.

Don’t worry. You’re well on track to meet your “Idiotic Troll” comments quota.

That hilarious coming from a Tea Bagger….we all know the Tea Party is a party of racists…and yeah, Herman Cain is a house negro who will fetch your slippers for a vote.

Oh my, I suppose this might have something to do with it:  http://nation.foxnews.com/herman-cain/2011/10/11/poll-cain-trails-obama-just-3-points

This one also demonstrates the looniness of of the left:  http://michellemalkin.com/2011/10/08/al-sharpton-herman-cain/

It is indeed. It’s kind of pitiful because their understanding of the rules of logic is nil. I addressed his Straw Man fallacy proactively. Dixiecrats are the new GOP. The GOP was primarily a Yankee party, now it’s the party of the confederacy. They continue to ignore the Southern Strategy, which the GOP last apologized for under Steele’s leadership. That’s an admission that they exploited race as a divisive means of winning elections and polarizing the country. If they could read they’d simply look it up.

i guess i have to ask why it is every time i see or read anything about cain, he seems to only be repeating himself, basically saying none of us have a right to crab about the state of our country, telling us that it is all our fault if we’re not rich or even employed, and bragging on his crappy pizzas… you know, he loves to go on about how he worked hard and “made it” and i think what he misses about the point of the OWS protests is that those folks, and i think a majority of hard working people, don’t want to be “rich”, we want a stable economy that allows for our income to be on a par with what the price of goods and services are. how can any of us get ahead or save for retirement when the basic necessities for day to day life are costing us more than we are making? how can we find employment in a country that outsources so many jobs? he seems to think that we all should want and work for the kind of success he had with that god awful pizza ( i really really hated that pizza!!) and if we don’t strive for that we are lazy and looking for handouts. i don’t want a “career”. i just want a job. i would be perfectly happy working part time for minimum wage, my daughter is in school now, i have all day here to go to work. over the last 3 years i have not gotten one single nibble on any of the applications i filled out. what i do see is that the places i apply to, the only new hires have been women over 60. i don’t get it… but the other thing i see is that all those businesses, in the last 3 years, have hired only a handful of new employees. most of my adult life, i worked retail, and what i have come to know as the normal ebb and flow of employment opportunities in those types of places has been horribly disrupted because the economy is just all kinds of jacked up, and this is true in every sector of business. this didn’t happen because people are lazy, or because not enough of us strive to be the kind of business man he wanted to be. i think the biggest problem is that he and others like him, are just completely out of touch with what the rest of the country has to go through. most of us go to the store, we need, say, coffee, we have to look at the prices on the myriad brands, see what coupons we have for which ones, figure out what is the better deal, and end up going home with butt tasting coffee, rather than just going, “i like hills bros.” and just grabbing it. someone needs to ask that buffoon if he even knows how much a loaf of bread costs these days… it doesn’t matter what color we are, we are all getting economically screwed, what will cain do to put a stop to it? and 9-9-9 won’t work, so what else ya got herm? there is just not anything realistic or concrete coming out of the guy.

Per bill Maher: The denial of racism is the new racism. So you RyGuy are a racist. He could not have done anything if Belafonte and others had not worked to end Jim Crow you idiot.

It really is amazing how they assume the majority of blacks are incapable of forming a conclusion as to what is in their best interests. The notion put forward is always that of liberals suckering blacks. Why are blacks not capable of coming to a decision on their own, even if it is a decision you don’t like? I don’t like Herman Cain, but I’m not going to tell you he’s been brainwashed into his positions. I hold him responsible for his stance, as opposed to viewing him as an ignorant tool who fell victim to the superior intellect of white Republicans. 

The fact that blacks vote so often for Democrats speaks to the shame of The GOP. Those on the right will find me in agreement that the Democrats are far from the greatest thing since sliced bread to hit the black community. That’s a voter block Republicans should be able to snag away, but they can’t, and it’s not because of brainwashing. Rhetoric like that, and policies advocated by Republicans, are viewed as being geared against blacks. That’s why they don’t get much black vote. You aren’t really competing for them. Despite this child-like image being put forward of a black man incapable of intelligent thought, blacks are not stupid. They’re not going to just flock to the Republicans because the Dems aren’t doing enough. They’re not going to jump from the frying pan into the fire. Republicans have to compete for them, and that means giving up a bit of that typical Republican strategy. Republicans are not seen as an inclusive group. At any moment even the staunchest of them is prone to being labeled a RINO for the merest perception of diversity from the rest of the pack. Blacks are not stupid. Reps are going to have to try a little harder than just finding a black candidate to parrot the same rhetoric, and advocate the same policies, that has made them turn away from Reps for years now. The problem Blacks have isn’t with Blacks leaving the “Democratic Plantation” (an offenisive analogy that just illustrates the larger point). You can have, and do have, blacks that don’t support politicians, Democrat or Republican. You won’t find much backlash. You would expect there to be, if the problem was with leaving the Democrats. It is not though. The problem is with the Republican Party.  It is with Blacks joining a party that they see as having flirted with an anti-black agenda. 

There weren’t enough Republicans to pass the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act and Fair Housing Act  by themselves. FACT.

–Cobra

The number 1 employer of Black males is government: federal, state, local.
The number 2 employer of Black females is government: federal, state, local.

 The Tea Party/Conservative/GOP strategy is to “cut government spending” at all costs.

 The result?  Cutting Black employment.

  Simple math.  Anybody for cutting government, is for firing Black people.

–Cobra

Herman Cain touts himself as a “Real Black Man” and that 2/3rds of the Black population in America is brainwashed.

 Anybody who openly says such things should EXPECT to be taken to task, unless you believe that Black Conservatives are above any criticism whatsoever?

–Cobra

Censure,

  It’s easy for conservatives here and elsewhere to think that way.  Most of them believe that Blacks are INFERIOR in the first place.  You see, when you actually READ their posts, it’s very clear how little they regard any minority who isn’t Republican, and hide behind the figleaf of  supporting the “black conservative in the spotlight” at any given moment no matter how ignorant his/her message is.

–Cobra

As a liberal I agree that was possibly racist and it isn’t something I would have said.

However you should remember that Cain described himself as Black Walnut, surely him saying that merely encourages racism?

What DOES this country stand for?  You want to walk through American History with me and explain why any SANE African-American not on the RNC/Koch/Fox payroll would NOT have a problem with it?

–Cobra

I think you will find that they are attacking him as they don’t feel that he represents them, they are rightly offended that a black man should deny that racism is alive and well when they know that it is – a quick scan of the comments to this story will prove that.

They can read. They choose not to look it up. That is the sad part.

I agree with your comments.

I’m not sure how this is supposed to work as a ‘strategy’ for Republicans aiming to gain African American votes. People generally never respond well to being patronized and insulted, which is how its being perceived.

There are many African Americans who work very hard in tough circumstances, some who are successful and others extremely successful are wary of this language. Some will vote Republican,  some won’t vote but the vast majority have always voted Democrat.

The history should help suggest why, since it was LBJ who helped put through The Voting RIghts Bill legislation in 1965, but Republicans at the time were resistant to its passage. Subsequently, the historical context was set and has not been matched or surpassed by Republicans who’ve been in office since.

Herman Cain right now is just another vying candidate trying to stand out. What he has said will play well within the ranks of his own party for sure, but will it  help him to win the eventual nomination?

…That still remains to be seen. He has many Republican hurdles to pass yet.

It will be interesting if he has to canvass in communities and states with sizable African American numbers, because very tough questions will be asked about his specific views on this matter and others closely related.

As a TeaBaggee, you should be aware that the lefts’ inherent racism is clearly on display when confronted with a hard-working, self-reliant, well-educated, self-made, successful, articulate African-American conservative. 

You bigoted, hateful, ignorant, left-wing hacks’ true colors are now on display for all to see.  Congratulations!

Reading left-wing websites.

Curt and Chuck, what on earth are you doing here, you both sound far too rational.

I am a liberal and I agree with pretty much all you both said, although I think a big government isn’t a problem as long as it is there to keep the corporations in check, not the people.

I would suggest the vast majority of people are like you and me, divided by political party but close in our wants and needs from those parties – yet both sides consistently fail us when we elect them.

I get the White Conservative ideology.  I really do.  I’m not saying you SHOULDN’T think the way you do, because by logic…it makes the most sense in a Darwinist way.

In the American White Male Power Structure:

-Whites have 20 times the net worth of Blacks.
-Whites live longer
-Whites have a lower infant mortality rate
-Whites have better access to healthcare
-Whites don’t face the same level of lending discrimination
-Whites don’t face the same level of housing discrimination
-Whites, according to Princeton sociologist Devah Pager, with FELONY CONVICTIONS have as good or better odds of getting hired than Blacks with no criminal record

  In America, historically, socially, financially and demonstrably….it’s good to be White, so what, besides your conscience, would you inspire you to want to give up that advantage?

–Cobra

He said he didn’t see it and said if it were there he would have. That’s different than saying it was there but I kept trucking. If he says he didn’t see it that’s one thing, but he shouldn’t throw it out there in defense of his comments marginalizing the impact of racism.

“Totally Black”  

ROTFLMBAO!!!

 If you’re an African-American whose family was here for more than 4 generations, you are NOT “totally Black.”  Hypodescent. Google it.

–Cobra

It’s not all conservatives, but it is enough that they have this problem with the black vote.

Fox makes left wing websites now?

They really need to research where the concept of blackness came about as a construct of racism, and how that same system of racism later declared that even a drop meant that you were all black.

And again, YOU are the only one looking at this in terms of race. The Tea Party wants to cut government because it overspends OUR money and then wants to tax us to fund more idiotic spending. The Government spends money and doesn’t care that our children and grandchildren will eventually have to pay for it. The government spends money without consulting the will of the American people. We live an entitlement society and can’t afford it any more. Our country is BROKE. 

You are really stupid if you think the reason conservatives want smaller government is to subtly hurt black people. You are the only one looking at it in terms of race.

Well that’s the thing isn’t it? He puts forward that anyone who isn’t rich should blame themselves. He lays all the responsiblity for lack of wealth on the individuals drive. So if it’s that easy to achieve wealth, why do we need him, or any other candidate, to come along and change anything? The problem isn’t the system, it’s everyone that is rich, by that logic. So why should we support his election bid? He just let the genie out of the bottle. We don’t need him.

Here is your logic: You are for supporting higher taxes on the wealthy –> If Company A gets taxed at a higher rate they will have to fire 50 people –> 35 of those people will be women –> You are a sexist. Do you see how your logic is completely idiotic? 

First off … who cares what Bill Maher says. He’s not the arbiter of race relations yet you use his quote like it means something?

Secondly, if you ask Belafonte why he fought for Civil Rights he will say so that his Black brothers and sisters could be free. He wouldn’t say that he fought in the Civil Rights movement for fame.
Belafonte fought to get black people equal rights and become successful, independent people which is what Herman Cain did …. 

Al Sharpton says that Black conservatives are idiots and implies they are brainwashed yet you dont eviscerate him like you do Cain. It’s all because he happens to be conservative and you happen to be a liberal. You’re trying to score partisan points instead of debate what he say.s

“Wall Street” is a ROAD, people who break the law(economic or whichever) have been tried/prosecuted, they include Kenneth Lay, Bernard Madoff, Tony Rezko, Jack Abramoff, and the long list goes on…The protesters do not have the guts to ask that Barney Frank be tried in court, he played a very major role in what you all now refer to as the “financial crisis”.

http://www.youtube.com/user/machosauceproduction     Love this guy! Inanonhomowaythatis. just sayin’

So it’s either “You black people either support me or you are stupid.” Sounds like politics to me. Unfortunately the republican side is where all of the racists are, in their trailers. 

What a hoot!  take a look at the numbers and the dates – this IS NOT the Dems fault, it is NOT the Obama Recession, this train wreck started on Bush’s watch.

And I still don’t understand how a group of folks on Wall Street protesting the lack of prosecution of the 1% of the richest who gave themselves unimaginable amounts of money while the tax payers bailed out their companies can be called “Un-American” But the Tea Party folks standing on the steps of the Capitol shouting “Shut it down!” are NOT?

P.S. again, look at the facts, the Dem’s are NOT in power right now….

Yuk, yuk!

Look Tea Bagger….you would vote your Grandmother’s social security away cause you people hate Obama so much.  Tea baggin racist!

Geez, was the Washington earthquake caused by laws that the left pushed though?  How about the realtors that worked with their friends at the bank to sell homes to people they BOTH knew could not afford them, then took the commissions and sold the loans to other institutions, who bought them knowing they were bad, but betting it wouldn’t all fall apart until they could resale them?
This is SO like the Savings and Loan debacle (and the loss of the family farms in the 1980s.)  Actually, some of the bankers who walked away rich from that one while the tax payers picked up the tab are the same people walking with the big bucks on this one! (The big problem here is that Agriculture isn’t here to buy the land at pennies on the dollar.)
Ya’ll theoretically don’t the government spending money – why aren’t you more pissed at the board members taking our tax dollars?

Really! Seriously, you caaaan’t be this dumb, please tell you aren’t. In the name of all that is Holy and good . . .

The problem with your philosophy is that, (I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt) unintentionally, you’re willing to let the elderly, infirm, and handicapped die of sickness and poverty.  That’s what happens without the New Deal and the Great Society.

  The private sector is amoral. Business only exists to make a profit, which is the reason why you don’t see Tea Party Activists burning their Social Security or Medicare Cards.  They know damned well that if they could even FIND an insurance company willing to cover a senior citizen with pre-existing conditions, the rates will be astronomical due to high risk status.

  The private sector is amoral. Loyalty and Patriotism means nothing if it doesn’t add to the bottom line. Of all the glowing memorials to Steve Jobs, I didn’t hear too much mention that the Apple factory in China having to ring the building with suicide nets because the conditions are so deplorable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357833/Apple-responds-suicides-Chinese-Foxconn-factory-hanging-nets.html

  So, where during the industrial revolution in America, where White immigrants used the ambient unskilled factory and mill labor to get ahead and build a future in America…that same avenue is no longer available for workers of ANY color or creed, as business couldn’t wait to outsource those jobs to communist governments for .81 cents and hour or less. And if you think a degree will inoculate you from outsourcing, think again. 
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-06/riot-ojl061308.php

 What is your AGENDA, Milehimo?  I support big government because it’s first priority is NOT making a profit, and I can actually participate in it.

–Cobra

Makes sense. John Kasich had a Fox Show.  Mike Huckabee has a Fox Show.  Sarah Palin has a Fox Show.  Follow the money.

–Cobra

The assumption that one Black person speaks for all is so ridiculous that it is mind boggling.  Cain is certainly free to have his opinion and to express it.  But everyone has a right to think for themselves.   My guess that denigrating the thinking process of  blacks has more to do with how Cain feels about being black than it does about how blacks ought to think, vote and behave. 

Herman Cain is a deluded, ignorant fool who is being played by hateful right wingers who are thrilled to sit back and let him do the dirty work against African-Americans while they laugh behind his back and toss around racist jokes.  Most black people know the Republican party is NOT on their side.  Cain hates black people as much as white Republicans do and that’s the ONLY thing he has to offer for them, otherwise they would ignore him.

I’m sure the Koch brothers will put a bonus in his pay packet for his tirades.

Really! Seriously, you caaaan’t be this dumb, please tell you aren’t. In the name of all that is Holy and good . . .

http://www.youtube.com/user/machosauceproduction

http://www.youtube.com/user/machosauceproduction

You’re correct Censure. They never fact in that the legacy of slavery went on well into the 20th Century. They think it all ended in with the emancipation proclamation. There all better — now just hit the streets. Oh but not on my street. We’ll put you in ghettos or make you indentured servants (sharecroppers). Oh and we won’t pay for your education or let you vote. And you can only do these types of jobs, and on and on and on and on and on  . . . . I’m getting dizzy thinking about it. Our opponents hate history and are therefore willfully ignorant. And that’s a sin.

paranoid much?  take your medication.

U mad bro?

RyGuy, this is called the Internet. You can find unbiased accurate information right at the tip of your asshole smelling fingers.

Belafonte was ALREADY a major star before the civil rights movement began in earnest. He could only jeopardize his fame by becoming an activist–since he would offend many of his non-black fans (he had a lot you idiot). He used his fame to organize,educate and register people to vote so that they could change a CLEARLY unjust system. For this he should be lauded.

I care what Bill Maher says –that who cares. Because sometimes he’s dead on, sometimes he’s not. I also care what Bill O’Reilly, Hannity and even Cain say. In academia when we cite the author of quote its called “attribution” meaning acknowledging the source so you’re not plagiarizing.  Yet another example that conservatives have no idea of what logic is or how to use it.

It seems Herb Cain can give two craps about getting the African-American vote based on his recent unflattering comments he made about them over the past few weeks!!

Actually “crowd” is plural in the same way “data” and “people” are. New Guy is correct. You wouldn’t say “I can’t decide if the OWS people is useful idiots…” or “The data is ready.” You would use “are” in all cases.

Pablo could have said “…the OWS crowd is made up of useful idiots…”

That’s an ad hominem attack my friend. Got give you a Socratic Logic Penalty Flag on that taint! Sorry. Now off to the back of the class you go until you’re able to make an intelligent hypothesis or offer an on-topic opinion.

It makes sense that the Republican party would be ruled by Kochs.

No, it takes a Republican black man telling other black men that they are brainwashed.  He’s the one making the generalizations asshat.

Yeah, there’s nothing so insidiously bigoted and evil than a positive message harkening America as being the land of opportunity..

Booo..hissss….  eeek.!….

Another right wing Kochsucker.

He’d be the first to agree.    You don’t need him. 

Democracies don’t need the cult of the personality or the politician/savior.

“Geez, was the Washington earthquake caused by laws that the left pushed though?”

Yes.  Among other things, it was caused by a supercharging of the Community Reinvestment Act.  Whereby progressives used the provisions of the act as a stepping stone to exert pressure on banks, under threat of government investigations and penalties;  to lend money to people for homes they could not afford, or had a poor history of paying their debts.

And so it began.  BTW, they are doing it again.  Progressives seem to never learn from the historical failures of the progressive/modern liberal/socialist/communist worldview.  Why is that?

Who says I’am not?  I can’t do anything about greedy people except encourage congress to enact the right laws to regulate them without hampering their ability and desire to create jobs here in America. Congress, led by the liberals, enacted laws to help the greedy crooks get more wealth. Making sure they enact the right laws is the only recourse I have. Destroying bankers and stock brokers will only destroy us in the bargain. It is the old adage you cut off your nose to spite your face. I like my nose. Or another and better one, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

Typical liberal loon logic from a completely clueless simpleton.

Calm down you racist clown.

He wants it in his system, both the mouth and anal cavities to be exact.

Typical angry, foul-mouthed, uneducated, unemployed, left-wing clueless hack looking for a handout.

The Party of Rush calling me a racist?  Please don’t hurt my feelings…or spit on me like those civil rights leaders.

Angry yes, foul-mouthed yes, but I have 2 BAs and a Master’s degree, and I do have a job.

Never taken any sort of handout, so I think you might have me mixed up with Marcus Bachmann.

If Cain is an example of stupid I would like to be more stupid. I could use some success like his.

Obama has more charismatic demure, than Cain. Look at Cain’s face, and you will see all of the HATE right in front of you. He will NEVER EVER get a vote from me, cuz once they start condemming someone like Belafonte, that is where I say, *stop the train Jack*… You are GETTING OFF.

Good points, kromecom. In response to a supposed historian, in an above post, I threw out one word. Redlining. I got no response. I don’t think they had the foggiest idea of what I was getting at, but those same people will tell you racism is dead and if there are any barriers to blacks it is because of Democrat policies, not institutional racism.

That’s a dumb statement, I thought all the liberals believed the Republicans were rich and lived in big homes. Herman Cain is a self made man with a little luck along the way he has become a successful candidate, best of all he is not a politician that will pick your pocket.Most of the big money in this country is controlled by Democrats. If you are unhappy with your life, try getting a job, it works wonders. 

So why even pay politicians or fund a government?

Don’t make the mistake those who believe there is a “Democratic Plantation” make, Marlene. Cain is an intelligent man. He isn’t deluded, or ignorant to what is going on. Much like he was willing to quietly endure the indignity to sit in the back of that bus, in order to get from point A to point B, he is willing to play the role of megaphone for the attacks certain elements in his party would otherwise not be able to make, in order to continue the growth of his personal success which he has always put first and foremost.

His message wasn’t positive, and it will not go over well in the black community. Trust me.

I think the Canadian organizers of OWS don’t care about about the protesters, and the protesters don’t really know what they want.  Having been sold the same bill of goods via progressive “Critical Theory ” education that most of the rest of us have been, all of our lives, they (OWS “protesters”) truly believe that those “Wall St. criminals” have created massive ruin and destitution as a result of  unchecked greed. And that they are flaunting the proceeds .

All the while, they seem to hold no such animosity for their “saints of the government apparatus”. You know, the ones that write the rules bankers are supposed to live by.  The one’s who have oversight authority over the financial sector.  The ones that are more often than even a skeptic like me realizes, are the beneficiaries of Wall St. wealth (See:  Obama, Barack H.)

Those poor dupes out there protesting Wall St. are largely misguided.  Sure, there is greed on “The Street”.  However, there is also tremendous greed, and frightening power in government.  People who boast of advanced degrees in nothing of consequence are “leading” these “protesters” on a “wild banker chase”. 

People who don’t know the difference between a “profit” and a “profit margin”, and have no clue how wealth is created, are equating greed to the very creation of wealth.  Directing the majority of their enmity at bloated, inefficient, and corrupt government would more likely serve the noble goals of their dreams.

I find myself resistant to take seriously, anyone carping and griping, about the uneven distribution of wealth who has never risked anything in an attempt to create wealth.  People who are keeping in touch with friends, family, and other protesters using smart phones and iPads and wearing $200 jeans.

I’ve been gone from the Democrat plantation for a few years now. 

Give them hell, Hermanator!

@JohnJGuy:”The history should help suggest why, since it was LBJ who helped put through The Voting RIghts Bill legislation in 1965, but Republicans at the time were resistant to its passage.”
I don’t believe that is true.
From conservapedia:
The Act was passed by the U.S. Congress over strong opposition from the the southern wing of the Democratic Party; Democratic President Lyndon Johnson turned to Minority Leader Everett Dirksen for Republican support [2] to break the Southern Democratic filibuster. Dirksen spoke on the Senate floor,
“  The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing of government, in education, and in employment. It must not be stayed or denied. It is here!
From Wikipedia:
The two numbers in each line of this list refer to the number of representatives voting in favor and against the act, respectively.
Senate: 77–19
Democrats: 47–17 (73%-27%)Republicans: 30–2 (94%-6%)House: 333–85
Democrats: 221–61 (78%-22%)Republicans: 112–24 (82%-18%)Conference Report:
Senate: 79–18
Democrats: 49–17 (four Southern Democrats voted in favor: Albert Gore, Sr., Ross Bass, George Smathers and Ralph Yarborough).Republicans: 30–1 (the lone nay was Strom Thurmond; John Tower who did not vote was paired as a nay vote with Eugene McCarthy who would have voted in favor.)House: 328–74
Democrats: 217–54Republicans: 111–20
A higher percentage of Democrats voted against it.

I think the Canadian organizers of OWS don’t care
about about the protesters, and the protesters don’t really know what
they want.  Having been sold the same bill of goods via progressive
“Critical Theory ” education that most of the rest of us have been, all
of our lives, they (OWS “protesters”) truly believe that those “Wall St.
criminals” have created massive ruin and destitution as a result of 
unchecked greed. And that they are flaunting the proceeds .

Give them hell, Hermanator!

Then tell OBAMA to fix the damn thing!!! He wanted the job, right?  Hope and change, right?  So fix it and quit complaing and whining like some bitch.

You are a bore.

The godfather of Republican attack politics, the late Lee Atwater, on the Southern Strategy in 1981:

”

”And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that.
But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded,
that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You
follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, ‘We want to cut
this,’ is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a
lot more abstract than ‘N*****, n*****.”’

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E6DF1E30F935A35753C1A9639C8B63

 It’s all baked in the mix, RyGuy, and just because YOU might not personally think that’s an underlying reason, doesn’t mean OTHER Republicans and Conservatives share your apparent altruism.

 Second, riddle me this…Republican President George W. Bush walked into the White House on January 20, 2001 with this on his plate:

“President Clinton announced Wednesday that the federal budget surplus
for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion, making it the
largest in U.S. history and topping last year’s record surplus of $122.7
billion.”This represents the largest one-year debt reduction in the
history of the United States,” Clinton said Wednesday morning. “Like our
American athletes in Sydney, we’ve been breaking records and have come a
long way.“In June, the administration predicted the surplus would be
$211 billion, and would increase by as much as $1 trillion over the next
10 years.Clinton also announced the federal government paid down the
national debt by $223 billion this year, and by more than $360 billion
since 1998, the largest debt reduction in U.S. history.“The key to
fiscal discipline is maintaining these results year after year. We need
to put our priorities in order,”

http://articles.cnn.com/2000-09-27/politics/clinton.surplus_1_budget-surplus-national-debt-fiscal-discipline?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

 I’m eagerly awaiting your comments, RyGuy.

–Cobra

There over 39,000,000 African-Americans besides Al Sharpton, RyGuy. I’m one of them. Why do you keep going back to Sharpton, a guy who’s never been elected to anything?

–Cobra

How does calling them “brainwashed” equate to a positive message about this country being the land of opportunity??

LOL—the voting record shows what?

 That the House bill could’ve passed with just Democrats (221).  What’s your comment on Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Barry Goldwater and William Reinquist being AGAINST the CRA of 1964?

–Cobra

last two years of Bush were controled be the Dems so it is the democrats recession

ever hear of “truth in lending” which is another government regulation since the savings and loan.  You are wrong about the realtors and mortgage lenders.  The paperwork to the buyers, as far as real estate forms and lending documentation is very explicit due to the “truth in lending” regulation.  No way anyone could get around it.  It’s the buyers that were greedy and probably, in most cases didn’t read their documentation or listen to what the professionals were telling them.  How dare you say it was the realtors and lenders.  I am a realtor and worked hard to find houses for people who could hardly afford them because they so very much wanted the American dream.  You are putting the blame on the wrong people.

There is no more racism in the south than there is in the north, infact there is less. I’ve lived in the north for 62 years and I have seen very little difference. The biggest difference I’ve seen is most people in the south are much more friendlier. 40 years ago there were problems and segregation but, the south has moved beyond that. Sure there are pockets of racist everywhere, north & south but, don’t knock the south until you lived there, I love it, it’s beautiful.

Uh, who ripped who first.

Hell, if Obama was caught naked in bed with a pet goat and a ten year old boy,  African Americans would still vote 99.99999% for him.  Cause from Obama they are going to get free homes, free cars, free gasoline and some $ from his stash, for he tells them so.

My comment was about the African-Americans and trying to win their vote, not the comments about what Belafonte and West stated!!

I don’t think Belafonte and West speak for the African-American voters, they can speak for themselves!!

And since they’re getting free cars, homes, gas and cash… they would be doing mush better as a group in society!!

Cain is earning his house nigga badge real fast. Not supporting a party that only resents non whites is called brainwashing??? Yes, cain needs to lay off the rich white mans pipe and clear that sad mind of his

Stop being such a black walnut.

@Cobra, No Reply button.
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Totals are in “Yea-Nay” format:
By partyThe original House version:
Democratic Party: 152-96   (61%-39%)Republican Party: 138-34   (80%-20%)
Cloture in the Senate:
Democratic Party: 44-23   (66%–34%)Republican Party: 27-6   (82%–18%)
The Senate version:
Democratic Party: 46-21   (69%–31%)Republican Party: 27-6   (82%–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:
Democratic Party: 153-91   (63%–37%)Republican Party: 136-35   (80%–20%)
Neither Reagan, Bush, nor Rehnquist voted on it.
Concerning Goldwater, from Wikipedia:Although majorities in both parties voted for the bill, there were notable exceptions. Republican senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona voted against the bill, remarking, “You can’t legislate morality.” Goldwater had supported previous attempts to pass Civil Rights legislation in 1957 and 1960 as well as the 24th Amendment outlawing the poll tax. The reason for his opposition to the 1964 bill was Title II, which he viewed as a violation of individual liberty.
How about these guys?”Most Democrats from the Southern states opposed the bill and led an unsuccessful 83-day filibuster, including Senators Albert Gore, Sr. (D-TN), J. William Fulbright (D-AR), and Robert Byrd (D-WV), who personally filibustered for 14 hours straight.”
But really, my point wasn’t to start some tit-for-tat my-guy-your-guy thing. I simply wanted to show that, in contradiction to what JohnJGuy wrote about a lack of Republican support, there actually was significant – in fact, proportionally higher – Rupublican support in Congress.

Here is your logic:  You’re for cutting taxes on the wealthy regardless of War, economic conditions or whether those tax cuts lead to hiring anybody.  Truth be told:

“Most U.S. and
foreign corporations doing business in the United States avoid paying
any federal income taxes, despite trillions of dollars worth of sales, a
government study released on Tuesday said.

The Government Accountability
Office said 72 percent of all foreign corporations and about 57 percent
of U.S. companies doing business in the United States paid no federal
income taxes for at least one year between 1998 and 2005.
More
than half of foreign companies and about 42 percent of U.S. companies
paid no U.S. income taxes for two or more years in that period, the
report said.
During that time
corporate sales in the United States totaled $2.5 trillion, according to
Democratic Sens. Carl Levin of Michigan and Byron Dorgan of North
Dakota, who requested the GAO study.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/08/12/us-usa-taxes-corporations-idUSN1249465620080812

 As I said before…business is amoral. They could care LESS about hiring anybody unless it helps them make a profit.

–Cobra

Neither Reagan, Bush, nor Rehnquist voted on it.

 They were REPUBLICANS who were on record opposing the Civil Rights Act of 1964.    The numbers you provide clearly demonstrate that with 136 Republicans in the House and 32 GOP Senators, Republicans couldn’t pass ANYTHING by themselves.

 Second, the GOP votes, as your numbers indicate, were NOT “unanimous.”  Not ONE Southern Republican in the House or Senate voted for the CRA, while four Southern Dems did.  I find it also interesting that you took the time to make excuses for Barry Goldwater’s “No” vote, but couldn’t take any for the Democratic “No” votes.

Why is that?

–Cobra

Cain isn’t running; he’s on a book tour. He’s nothing more than a huckster playing the right just like Palin did. He’s running to form a PAC just like she did and will walk away with millions when Romney gets the nod.

To represent us to the world and to facilitate policies that best preserve the freedoms we already have under the Constitution.

The president certainly is not our King and he’s not our savior.

For someone who knows so little, as you have described me, I do know the difference between “accept” and “except”. To you and the mutant who posted in agreement with your screed, please consider this: Herman Cain was born in 1945. Martin Luther King’s Montgomery bus boycott was in 1955. Guess Mr. Cain couldn’t get out of his math homework to join the boycott. Doctor King’s march in Washington DC for civil rights was 8 years later. I guess Mr. Cain, being a high school student, couldn’t get the keys to the car that day to travel there from Georgia. Perhaps you could think about your responses in advance of making them. Just a suggestion.

Not sure with that factoid (or rather, false-oid) has to do with Mr. Cain, but these are the yea/nay votes by party for the Civil Rights Act:
Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
Cloture in the Senate:[13]
Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%–34%)Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version:[12]
Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[12]
Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%–37%)Republican Party: 136-35 (80%–20%)

Wow..so deep. You were clearly a Philosophy major. I’m just trying to guess at which Ivy League institution(s) you did your post-docs.

@Cobra, No Reply button again.
     I provided the numbers to show that a significant number of Republicans did support both pieces of legislation. They did. It’s a fact. That was, and remains, my main point. I don’t know how to make that any clearer. I did not claim that Republicans were “unanimous”. I didn’t say that the Republicans could pass anything by themselves. I stated that a higher percentage of Republicans voted “Yea” than did Democrats. That is a fact.
    I’m not defending anyone. You are attacking. YOU failed to mention the notable Democrats that were opposed. I had the impression that you were pushing the “Republicans are/were racists” line. I mentioned Goldwater for the sake of clarity. He did support previous legislation, but opposed CRA for a specific reason that was NOT racism. If you were in fact not insinuating racism, then I apologize.
     So why don’t we just agree that an overwhelming majority of both Democrats AND Republicans were for civil rights, and in fact did support the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965? Don’t the facts support that conclusion?
    I’ll repeat myself here. “But really, my point wasn’t to start some tit-for-tat my-guy-your-guy thing. I simply wanted to show that, in contradiction to what JohnJGuy wrote about a lack of Republican support, there actually was significant – in fact, proportionally higher – Republican support in Congress”.

All the Republican candidates are better qualified than Obama, Personaly I like Paul, Bachman & Cain. Which ever candidate wins the nomination, that’s who I’ll vote for.

I am a black woman and NOBODY on the planet does my thinking for me!!!

Yeah….Don’t you DARE insult Obama’s banana boy.

did”nt he guarantee 30%?

got a book to sell
not much of a campaign staff though

Of all the ignorant, racist things to say.  Are you so narrow minded, so easily lead by the nose?  You are no better than your counterparts in the Klan. Robert Byrd would be sooooo proud.  In fact, maybe we should get you a T-Shirt that says “Jj loves the Grand Dragon”.    How about you read some real history, you know, primary sources (in their own words) not progressive,racist crap.  You might learn that after Reconstruction, you know the desegregation of the south, enforced by the Northern Republicans, that it was a Progressive Democrat by the name of Woodrow Wilson that RE-SEGREGATED the military and the federal government. 
In case you have not noticed, virtually every racist initiative has started in the Democratic Party.  Sadly, the only thing you hear is the frakin lies told to you by the racists in this party you love so much.  BTW, racism, prejudice, and bigotry is not only for whitey, my friend.  It is a human condition that you seem unable to rise above. 
But please all of you who believe like Jj, please keep talking, I love watching you all show us exactly who you are.

There is a certain irony with a black man like Herman Cain — who seems to hold some pretty rigid (even narrow minded) positions — to be telling anyone (black or white) that they’re brainwashed or don’t have an open mind..

As a group the evangelicals that make up a sizable number of conservative Tea Party types have to be some of the most gullible and therefore the most dangerous non-critical thinking members of our electorate.

These are the same people who Jim and Tammy Bakker exploited. Then along came Sister Sarah.

Finally, as you suggest, we have Herman Cain pretending to share their values if only they will be so nice as to support his candidacy and his willingness to fall in line with their values by denigrating blacks and apologizing for corporate greed and corruption.

How many words can Cain say without saying anything?

And what about when he DOES try to say something:
“Don’t hate bankers–they create your jobs.” 

“This (OWL) is a coordinated effort by the left to distract from Obama’s failed policies.” 

“Wall Street didn’t give themselves a huge bailout–Obama did!” 
I ordered a large combo with NO mushrooms in 1986. He couldn’t get that right, either. And I see that the pizza shops named after a leader of organized crime is now down to only 8 locations in smalltown Illinois. Herman Cain has no business being President.

Interesting in 2011 a litttle white baby goes missing and it’s all over the news. A four year old black
girls missing and few are reporting it. If I had not heard about it on the view I would’nt have known
about it. The guesss on the view( white male) was very truthful stating something
Like the fact is a beauityful white child is missing lets face it America not! Concerned
about that! Joy stated if they are blonde you will see more coverage.

Perhaps mr cain should not! Be running around stating we have the power to make things
happen don’t blame others. If we can not! Get a news station too
report on our missing children that could be getting raped or killed what does it say about power
and what america thinks of us?

“There’s class warfare, all right, Mr. (Warren) Buffett said, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

“There has been class warfare going on,” Buffett, 81, said in a Sept. 30 interview with Charlie Rose on PBS. It’s just that my class is winning. And my class isn’t just winning, I mean we’re killing them.”

In reply a general personal opinion…..

BIG business and BIG government involved in an unholy alliance to skim wealth from the masses and using a multitude of methods create a continuous ever-upwards stream of wealth.

I suggest you folks do some basic Web searching and read what much better minds than mine have to say about the proverbial “American Dream: and the facts…

Eye-opening how other countries put the USA to shame regarding numbers and percentages rising above the socio-economic class they were born into, etc.

Please do not fall back upon the propaganda all of us are fed from birth to defend the existing status quo the Occupiers are rebelling against.