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Joe Klein: BP Oil Spill Is Actually Bush’s Second Katrina

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Aha! Someone was listening during Obama’s press conference the other day, when he was sure to note that Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar had inherited a rotten Minerals and Management Service, “plagued by corruption for years.” Today on The Chris Matthews Show, Joe Klein of Time magazine acknowledged that unlucky inheritance, calling the BP oil spill catastrophe “more Bush’s second Katrina than Obama’s first.”

The assertion got an equally sympathetic reception, with Chris Matthews picking up the point and saying, “I agree, if you go to the management issue,” with Klein further noting that “it was the Bush regulations, it was Dick Cheney’s deregulation” that had enabled the current state of events. The other panelists were also sympathetic, agreeing that even though Obama’s administration had seemed to react slowly, there wasn’t a sense that there was something they weren’t doing, or something that the public wanted done that was being ignored. Said John Harris of Politico: “President Obama is in a horrible situation – he has responsibility, without power. He’s gonna be held accountable, but there’s not a lot he can do about it.”

Watch below:



NB: The video cuts off just as Chris Matthews changes the subject and asks Trish Regan about the future of offshore drilling (“Not necessarily dead, but it’s definitely going to be put on a bit of a hiatus here”).

What Obama said during Thursday’s press conference:

When Secretary Salazar took office, he found a Minerals and Management Service that had been plagued by corruption for years — this was the agency charged with not only providing permits, but also enforcing laws governing oil drilling. And the corruption was underscored by a recent Inspector General’s report that covered activity which occurred prior to 2007 — a report that can only be described as appalling. And Secretary Salazar immediately took steps to clean up that corruption. But this oil spill has made clear that more reforms are needed.

How Frank Rich explained it in today’s column:

The Interior Department devolved into a cesspool of corruption, even by its historically low standards, turning the Bush-Cheney antigovernment animus into a self-fulfilling prophecy and bequeathing Obama a Minerals Management Service as broken as the Bush-Cheney FEMA exposed by Katrina.

But even if it is Bush’s second Katrina, it’s happening during Obama’s first term. So, that’s where the outcome of this situation will come home to roost — especially, as Klein said, “if you get oil showing up on the beaches of Florida.” Now that’s a state you don’t want to piss off before an election.

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  • Puter Boi

    WOW….Rachel’s 24 hours is up…..time flies….yep….it does….it flies…time…..

  • mproust

    Puter, you got that right… And just before a holiday too. I can picture her crawling to a TV, bleary eyed and near comatose, searching for anything Chris Matthews or Joe Klein, finding both on the screen at the same time, reaching orgasm and finally posting to Mediaite.

  • felixw

    In the liberal world view, everything is Bush’s fault and always will be. But this is to be expected, since leftwing punditry these days is invariably built on personal attacks, insults, smears and blame-gaming. Joe Klein and his fellow travelers wouldn’t know an idea if it came up and bit them on the nose.

    If you have any doubts about this, just look at the left deals with this issue. Their discussion is not on how to fix the problem, but merely on who to blame. This is symbolic of the whole liberal agenda.

  • Jim R

    I think Joe’s right, given that one “regulator” getting pregnant and another snorting coke off a kitchen appliance with oil industry representatives probably wasn’t what the American taxpayer had in mind; although I’m sure the Cheney/Bush Oil Presidency didn’t see a problem.

    Just more crap inherited from inept Republicans, nothing new.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Now, see? Klein makes a mistake, he wants to hold George W. Bush accountable for being a clusterfuck. That’s against the rules. No matter what Bush did to screw up, be it bungle in Afghanistan or blunder in Iraq or oversee the collapse of the economy, watch gasoline hit $4 per gallon, fail to respond to Katrina (not cause Katrina to form like some idiots on the right claim), double the national debt and leave a $1.2 trillion FY 2009 deficit to cap the stack — it’s just wrong to hold Bush accountable, against the rules, not to be done. In the right wing world view, nothing is Bush’s fault and never will be. This is to be expected, it’s the tea party mantra that no matter how screwed up the Republicans left the nation, Republicans are the solution. See how the right wing deals with these issues – their discussion is to just freeze, be the deer in the headlights, let the semi run over you and your family and your nation. This is symbolic of the whole right wing lemming agenda.

  • Bootleghaircut

    WELL PLAYED SIR WELL PLAYED

    With all the GOP bedwetting about this being Obama’s “Katrina, Watergate. or Iranian hostage Crisis” i have to say that Klein’s birlliant tactic is guarranteed to net play from the GOP perpetual outrage machine.

    Klein sublty doubles down on the fact that it took six years for the GOP to actually acknowledge bush messed up. That’s a good double whammy and why he’s joe Klein. O’Rielly Beck, and Hannity will be squealing like pigs trying to deny that bush has anything to do with this while at the same time opening the book to the orginal response.

    SHAZAM!

  • tigerprez

    Yes! Joe Klein is 100% correct. I just wish he’d say what we’re all thinking, that Bush’s dirty fingerprints can be also be found on the Exxon Valdez, the Chernobyl Disaster, Three Mile Island, Watergate, the Kennedy Assassination, the Hindenburg, the Titanic, and both the Great Chicago Fire of 1871 and the Great London Fire of 1666. (There’s even an unverified rumor that he personally selected most of the primetime lineup for MSNBC.) Why is the rightwing media covering for him on all of this? I demand answers!

  • Bootleghaircut

    and hey rachel will you ever be on bloggerheads again? Would love to watch you dominate Matt Lewis in another debate of politcal wits.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Oh, gee, tiger, George W. Dumbass wasn’t born when those two fires occurred. You must be a teabagger.

  • mproust

    Bill Adkins, did you ever finish high school? George Bush was born on 13 October 1066, right before the Battle of Hastings. He immediately fought with the army of King Harold II and was personally responsible for the Norman victory.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Oh, so it was he who wrote the Domesday Book. Shouldn’t it also be called the George Bush Bible instead of that impostor, King James?

  • mproust

    Bill Adkins, you are way over your dumbass head. The Church of England completed the King James translation of the Bible in 1611, five hundred and forty-five years after the birth of George Bush. In 1611, George Bush was hard at work colonizing early America.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    Just in….shell casing found on grassy knoll in Dallas have both Bush and Cheney’s fingerprints on them. I’m glad that mystery is finally solved. Now lets move on to the the Natalee Holliway murder. I just know those two pricks were somehow involved.

  • felixw

    They finally found out who killed Marilyn Monroe…That’s right, George Bush.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “In 1611, George Bush was hard at work colonizing early America.”

    And he wasn’t very good at that either.

    Here’s a new mystery: HOW DID REPUBLICANS BECOME SO FREAKING STUPID?

  • JamesA1102

    since leftwing punditry these days is invariably built on personal attacks, insults, smears and blame-gaming.

    Felix’s posts are invariably built on personal attacks, insults, smears and blame-gaming.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “Felix’s posts are invariably built on personal attacks, insults, smears and blame-gaming”

    Which is symbolic of the whole conservative agenda of course.

  • mproust

    If JamesA1102 and Bootleghaircut and dear Bill Adkins are examples of the leftwing, those of us on the right are in a much better position than even I thought possible. And as soon as the oil reaches the beaches of Florida, Oblahblah is toast!

  • stoogedudes

    As a liberal, I too am getting tired of the “it’s Bush’s fault” schtick. Yes, Bush and his policies hurt the country and we’re still trying to get out of the mess that started with his administration, but this oil spill happened on Obama’s watch and he should appear to be more proactive than he seems to be now.

    Obama needs to clean house at the Interior Department and put people in there who will regulate these kinds of things with precision.

    I will say this though, things like this prove that “less government” may sound fine and dandy, but it’s unrealistic and dangerous.

  • JohnSimpson

    Sorry, Joe- you are lying again!

    U.S. exempted BP’s Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Wednesday, May 5, 2010

    The Interior Department exempted BP’s calamitous Gulf of Mexico drilling operation from a detailed environmental impact analysis last year.

    The decision by the department’s Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP’s lease at Deepwater Horizon a “categorical exclusion” from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009 — and BP’s lobbying efforts just 11 days before the explosion to expand those exemptions — show that neither federal regulators nor the company anticipated a calamity.

    Why Did the Obama Admin Exempt the Deepwater Horizon From Environmental Impact Study?
    by Matthew McDermott, New York, NY on 05. 6.10

    “It somehow boggles the mind, doesn’t it? But you’re reading the title correctly. BP’s Deepwater Horizon oil rig was exempted from having an detailed environmental impact study done by the Department of Interior last year. The Washington Post looked at federal documents and found that the department’s Mineral Management Service have the project a “categorical exclusion” from review, something which BP had been lobbying for more broadly just prior to the explosion that kicked of this series of tragic events. ”

  • ChinaCat

    I liked Joe better when he was Anonymous.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Van-Veen/617590041 Chris Van Veen

    So which administration was it again that gave this exploding oil rig a safety award soon beforehand? That it was a quid pro quo for campaign funds extorted from BP notwithstanding, the blood for all of this is on Obama’s hands. Klein is really only preaching to the few people who think like he does, so it’s a zero-sum game as far as that’s concerned.

  • Bootleghaircut

    and as predicted the MRC(brent bozell’s media research council-a heritage foundation pipeline) has posted this up and cross refferenced it on Hotair.

    Countdown to FOX shill spending airtime attacking this point and the outrage level getting kicked up to 11.

    Republicans are so scared because “drill baby drill” is about to become a thing of the past.

    of course they want to make this Obama’s fault-not BPs.

    Too bad obama’s rasmussen approval jumped six points from his fromhis lowest recorded approval number of 42% to 48% after his presser on thursday.

    Must really suck to be a republican right now.

  • Sunnyr

    This guy is a total freakin’ nutwad! He must be having serious “buyer’s remorse” over voting for the Amateur Hour Oracle in the White House and is still hurling his stupid rhetoric at President George Bush. Idiot!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    And in Kentucky Rand Paul, a nut who didn’t fall far from the tree who is Ron Paul, said it’s ‘un-American’ to blame or criticize BP. Typical tea party bull from another tri-corner hat wearing moron. President George Bush = Idiot and Republicand in Government is Idiocracy in action.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Republicand = Republicans. It would seem obvious, but I’m considering the right wingers’ lack of intellect.

  • TfT

    If there was ever any doubt that Joe Klein is an idiot, it was erased with this comment.

  • JohnSimpson

    Bill Adkins says:
    May 31, 2010 at 7:28 am

    And in Kentucky Rand Paul, a nut who didn’t fall far from the tree who is Ron Paul, said it’s ‘un-American’ to blame or criticize BP.”

    Nice lie Bill! You libs are great liars.

    He said saying you will “put your boot on BP ‘s neck” sounded un-American and it is.

  • Bunny

    You know, if it was that damn obvious to the administration and Klein and Matthews that there was such a huge problem with MMS, why the hell has nothing been done about it for the past year and a half? Good grief, I’m no Bushie, but c’mon, someone PLEASE stop passing the buck!

    Obama’s had almost a year and a half to do something about the horribly “corrupt” department…so why didn’t he? There’s plenty to blame on the last administration, but when you could have made corrections and didn’t in the nearly year and a half you’ve been in office, then the buck stops with you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    JohnSimpson says:
    May 31, 2010 at 9:43 am

    “Nice lie Bill! You libs are great liars.”

    Oh, John, don’t you know that your lies can be exposed so quickly just by posting the link? You idiocracy loving right wingers are such prolific liars.

    http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100521/NEWS0108/305210019/Rand-Paul-says-Obama-criticism-of-British-Petroleum-seems-un-American-

    “Other Republicans have criticized the government’s handling of the oil spill. But few have been so vocal in defending BP, the company responsible for the deep well and offshore rig that exploded last month, killing 11 workers and spewing millions of gallons of oil.”

    Paul said BP has agreed to pay the costs of the cleanup and damage. “I think it’s part of this sort of blame-game society in the sense that it’s always got to be somebody’s fault instead of the fact that maybe sometimes accidents happen,” he told ABC.”

  • writer

    Bush had only been in office nine months when 9/11 happened, but that was entirely on him. No inheritance involved. No looking back at Clinton. Obama has been in for eighteen months, but we must still look back to the previous administration.

  • JohnSimpson

    Bill Adkins says:
    May 31, 2010 at 10:47 am

    Oh, John, don’t you know that your lies can be exposed so quickly just by posting the link? You idiocracy loving right wingers are such prolific liars. ”

    Bill I said you were a liar and you are. I guess you didn’t read the link you provided.

    I said “He said saying you will “put your boot on BP ’s neck” sounded un-American and it is.”

    And your link quotes him as saying:

    “What I don’t like from the president’s administration is this sort of, ‘I’ll put my boot heel on the throat of BP,’” he said in an interview with ABC’s “Good Morning America.” ”I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business.”

    Bill, “don’t you know that your lies can be exposed so quickly just by posting the link?

    LMAO

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    While you’re laughing, John, why don’t you tell us how so very American you find BP and its polluting the Gulf, the Carribean and the Atlantic? Isn’t that all a hoot? And let us remember the dead 11, the destroyed livelihood of those who earnED their livings from the ocean around this disaster, the fishermen, the tourism industry; all those safety engineers whose recommendations were ignored by BP .. still laughing, John?

  • JohnSimpson

    I proved you are a LIAR and that does make me laugh, libby!

    bawaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • BowenIsland

    Bill Adkins says:
    “What I don’t like from the president’s administration is this sort of, ‘I’ll put my boot heel on the throat of BP,’” he said in an interview with ABC’s “Good Morning America.” ”I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business.”
    Your critical reading skills are attrocious! You call someone a liar and provide a link that only shows that you don’t know what you are talking about.
    And then you pull the classic liberal double down change the subject and continue to insult.
    John’s laughing at your having lied , I’m laughing at your intellectual integrity .

  • akrimediaite

    First, Mr. Klein is misstating the situation. It was under the Bush Administration that what was going on at MMS was discovered (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/washington/11royalty.html). Second, MMS, for example, was already giving the oil industry something of a pass – see their informative report of May, 2000 (http://www.gomr.mms.gov/PDFs/2000/2000-001.pdf) where they essentially say that no one has any idea what will happen in the event of a major blowout in deepwater drilling and are essentially guessing about the environmental impact. Third, it was under Obama that BP received a waiver for its Gulf operation to skip a detailed environmental impact analysis because a major spill was deemed unlikely (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/04/AR2010050404118.html). The problem isn’t who’s in charge of the bureaucrats – it’s that until a disaster happens, nobody knows how bad it’s likely to be; humans tend to hope for the best.

  • puck30

    “It’s Bush’s fault” just took a serious hit – CNN (OMG!) is reporting that in March the MMS of the Interior Department was told BP was having problems with the well casing, and the MMS said in writing not to worry about it.

  • http://none pyrope

    In Joe Klein’s upcoming book, he will prove that George W Bush actually started the bubonic plague.

  • AmericanCowboy

    Get a life Joe Klein. This is Obama’s watch. I also blame Obama for the slow clean up. I want to see the Commie out there with a mop and bucket. Now there is a job he might be qualified for. Scrub Commie Scrub!!!!

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