Don’t worry Obama, your job is safe.

As even Politifact noted, Perry never advocated “secession”.  It doesn’t matter how often liberals say it, it will never be true.  

It’s cute how Perry get ripped for saying “almost treasonous”.  But, calling conservatives “suicide bombers”, “hostage takers”, “terrorists”, etc. is A-OK.  

You got no chance, Huntsy.

The Dinosaurs went extinct, and the RINO’s are going extinct. You have no base.

Terry said ‘treacherous’ as well. Even Reagan’s former staffer and former Treasury official under Bush 41 called Perry an idiot. Bruce Bartlett said that. Look him up. And Bush 43′s former staffers have blasted Perry as well. He is an idiot.

He’s been bashing Republicans since the mid 90′s.  He’s a keynesian.  He hated Bush.  He hates Perry.  Big whoop.  In other news, MSNBC doesn’t like Perry either. 

…another RINO hack bites the dust. Huntsman who? Not a snowballs chance in hell for an elitist progressive to get the Republican nomination. Check out the betting odds in England on this guy winning……. off the board.

HARD FOR TEXAS TO LEAVE THE WELFARE GIVEN TO THEM BY THE TAXPAYERS.

FUNNY HOW AN OIL RICH STATE NEEDS TO LIVE OF THE BACKS OF TAXPAYERS

Who is this young whippersnapper who talks of this newfangled “science”?

LET’S THROW HIM OFF THE EDGE OF THE WORLD!!!!

1% of the vote but about 20% of the stories on the Mediaite front page. I’m disappointed ya’ll, Huntsman is an establishment candidate that got 69 votes at the Ames Straw Poll. He deserves 1% of the press because no one cares about him as a candidate.

Liberals don’t care about the truth.  They live by the rule that if they repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. 

White House press secretary says Perry “wanted to secede from the union

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/aug/17/jay-carney/white-house-press-secretary-says-perry-wanted-sece/

It’s not about evolution or global warming. It’s about jobs and the economy.

He may not believe in creation science, but he believes in something even more preposterous: that there are any sane Republicans left to vote for him in the primaries. 

Oh, now he’s simply groveling in the hopes of getting his old Obama regime job back……

Settle down now leeches, er , I mean dems. 15 months left, and this guy is never going anywhere in Republican politics again. He’s fun for some fodder, not serious debate.  

Huntsman is the new Meghan McCain , only more, like , progressive .

batcrazy right wing extremist don’t care about the truth. they live by the rule that if they repeat the lie long enough, people will believe it.

cough india trip costing 200 million a day
cought death panels

cough

Michelle, can I shave you?

the lanternoftruth has no balls and is a ballerina on the weekends for the Hoosier state gay ballet

the lanternoftruth has no balls and is a ballerina on the weekends for the Hoosier state gay ballet

Then call Reagan a Keynesian, for he increased spending. It jump-started the economy.

Then call Reagan a Keynesian, for he increased spending. It jump-started the economy.

What economy? It wasn’t ours.

What economy? It wasn’t ours.

Huntsman is bland, boring, & banal. That dog won’t hunt. George Will wants to play catcher for him, though.

It doesn’t matter how hard the left promotes Huntsman, he is never gonig to be our nominee.  What is this, the third Huntsman post on the front page here today?

It isn’t going to happen….Huntsman can criticize the other republicans all he wants….and theleft wing media will jump all over it.  Huntman doesn’t have a chance.

MSM (and Mediaite of course) will always use the liberal rino candidates to try and cast a bad light on the real candidates. SOP.

“Liberals don’t care about the truth.”

When you say “truth” you mean things a talking salamander told you, right?

 Yeah, he just told me your a moron that should be ignored.

There’s a lot more than oil in Texas putz.

You really think Mediaite is liberal?  They pander to you shmucks all the time.  But it’s fun here so I like to visit.  I agree, it’s not foxnation, but that ain’t saying much.  I bet you think Politico if a lefty website too.  And Fox News is “center-right”.  Thanks for the laugh.

 No need to worry, if you like your healthcare, you get to keep it.  NOT!

Well then, why aren’t you listening to him?

I think Huntsman has a very good chance of winning the GOP nomination. The majority of the Republican party are normal, not like the wingnuts or the teaparty. The normal Republicans want a candidate who has respect, doesn’t speak ill-will about others, dignity and wants Congress to compromise to get the economy going again. And the media will start covering him more too because he doesn’t have the radical beliefs regarding evolution, climate change, etc. Just watch.

“…Huntsman is staking out the “aggressively sane” niche.”

In other words, he’s staking out the “Democratic voter niche.”  Coming from TC, basically it means this is the person most well aligned with my side’s thoughts, even though he calls himself a Republican.

Now, strategy-wise, this isn’t terrible.  Huntsman could run as a third party candidate and really screw things up for BOTH parties.  He’s farther right than Obama, but farther left than any of the leading Republican candidates.  He could wind up stealing votes from both Obama and the Republican, making the election very hard to predict overall.

So why is he polling in the low single-digits?  Are “normal Republicans” screened out of all major polls?

I agree with your characterization, but not of George Will, who has criticized Huntsman pointedly.  Here is a piece from here at Mediaite.  http://www.mediaite.com/tv/george-will-jon-huntsman-is-for-voters-who-don%E2%80%99t-really-like-republicans/

The wingnuts and the extreme far right (i.e.) teabaggers have gotten all the media attention for that reason. Huntsman will start getting the media attention because he is not like them as evidence.already. He is not part of the right-wing shrill.

Right right. There’s a whole lotta crazy!

Why did he introduce the word then if not to advocate it? 

No, sorry. He’s speaking to the majority of the GOP. Fortunately who are not like you. The extreme right hate-machine.

The fact that you don’t think they are liberal, tells us a lot about you. 

If by job, you mean golfer in chief, you’re right.  Come January 2013, he’ll have more time for his mistress. 

If this was really such a “liberal” site, the comments section wouldn’t be so infested with right wing nutters like yourself. Either you’re all pathetic masochists who need to keep reading material you strongly disagree with or you prove the fact the site is relatively balanced. 

Yeah, I know Dan thought he’d make himself a nice little Daily Kos 2 here and we Conservatives invaded his site and brought sanity and logic to the debate.  Since then, they’ve tried their best to ban us one by one, but we keep coming back!  We know how much you liberals hate having to debate someone with an opposing view. 

Of course he will.   The liberal media will give air time to anyone bashing Conservatives.  How do you think Megan McCain always gets on the air?  That’s what they do. 

All we are trying to do is bring some constructive criticism to this site, not to mention some logic and an alternate POV.  There is not one conservative columnist on this baord, each and everyone is a liberal, just like CNN and MSNBC – conservative voices are not permited, except is tiny tiny itty bitty pieces.  FNC gives balance, which is why FNC rules in the ratings.
It would be nice if mediaite added a conservative columnist, but alas, it ain’t gonna happen.

It is hard enough for conservative posters here….if you criticize the columnists you get banned; but liberal commenters here can curse, call peple names, etc., and they are always embraced and welcomed.

It is unfortunate that mediaite is not so inclusive, some of the folks are so thin-skinned that they ban people for posting because they can’t take the criticism….kind of like the One you know, always pointing the finger of blame elsewhere.

Really, Michelle? You’re bringing “sanity and logic” to the site? Not so far. Time to pony up, teaturds!!!

Next week, Huntsman will explain why he is ending his campaign.

You don’t seem to recognize the difference between the writing staff of a site and its commenters.

Could we try that in English?

Tina says:

It is unfortunate that mediaite is not so inclusive, some of the folks
are so thin-skinned that they ban people for posting because they can’t
take the criticism.

Cough, cough Colby.  Consider me checked!!

Dear Huntsman,

Thank you for attacking the GOP.

Sincerely,
Sarah Palin.

Did you see the report about Pataki getting it? HILARIOUS.

And your point is that charisma is better than smarts? 

Go with that. Bachmann will make a GREAT nominee for you.

He has a terrible chance of getting the nomination and a pretty decent chance of winning the Presidential election if by some miracle he gets there. 

He is a center-right guy, and any whackos on the right who think he is a RINO are fools.  His conservative bona fides are well established to anyone that cares to look at his life-story, his record and his current opinions.  That having been said, he’s CENTER-right which does put him at odds with right-wing Orthodoxy.

Republicans may not want him, but that’s not the same as saying he’s a RINO (and was never a member of the Democratic Party, like Perry used to be).  To those on the right who don’t like him, whom would you rather have in the office – Huntsman or Obama? Huntsman or Hilary Clinton?

I think that’s the problem with BOTH parties – too much sway by the poles…what happened to Democrats like Evan Bayh and Republicans like Nelson Rockefeller?  The reason talk is so heated is because these types of politicians don’t exist any more.  Also, one of the reasons why there are almost no Republicans in the Northeast.

What works in Texas doesn’t necessarily work in New York.  Isn’t that the whole idea of de-centralization, that each community can decide for themselves and not be dictated to by some monstrously large Federal bureaucracy?

Aggressively sane!! What a great phrase. Keep at it Jon. Court independents and reasonable Republicans. We need more of that, I wonder if he’ll make it to the Daily Show.

even his criticism of Obama is reasonable. Rather than Marxism, and unAmerican, he sees him as well intentioned but failing to address our current crisis properly.

MAybe he’s been bashing irrational approaches to real world problems. Don’t most people including conservatives and libertarians recognize Bush as a bad president. I know my Libertarian friend went from defending him during the invasion of Iraq to recognizing how bad he was. If Obama has failed to properly address the financial crisis, we at least have to give Bush a lot of credit in helping to create it.

He must look very odd in his leotard without having balls…all smooth and Ken-doll-like down there.

Give it time because the media will start  giving him the coverage the wingnuts were getting and since he stands out he will.

Reasonableness doesn’t sell in today’s Teapublican party. You have to have a full out howling at the moon rage to get any notice in the fever swamps of the far-right.

very true

Don’t forget to get to bed early tonight. School starts tomorrow.

What does that say about all the angry-left FNC viewers?  Are they “pathetic masochists” or do they prove that FNC is more balanced than they claim?

Just a reminder to get to bed early tonight. I think school starts tomorrow.

I always love when typically angry leftwingers tell everyone else about “typical Republicans.”

Yes, you are a good source for that info.  HA!

The tea-nuts want a candidate who detests the alien looking person in the White House and despises everything about the man and his family.

Here is what Governor Perry and his supporters are about:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44217977/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/

Dear Sarah Palin,

Thank you for ruining the GOP as a serious political organization by ratcheting the crazy up to 11.

Sincerely, 
The Democratic National Committee

This is a little different my dear. He is a Republican running for office. Megan McCain was just a blogger and because of her Dad. Also, I haven’t heard Huntsman bashing anyone. I heard him disagree with fellow republicans but not the inciteful name calling the others do.

Attacking the GOP? More like disagreeing with the GOP.

Don’t call me dear, it creeps me out. 

I have my fingers crossed that Bachmann or Perry get the nomination..It’s time to flush the sludge, slime and mendacity down the toilet.

These two are the perfect items to float down the stream in the memory of the Grand Old Party.  

The lunatic-left d-cRAT socialists – and their stooges in the lamestream socialist fake-news media – ALWAYS make it perfectly clear who they fear as threats to their power and to leftist extremism and who they feel are minor annoyances that they can marginalize, co-opt, and defeat.  Hence, the vicious, hysterical, out-of-control, foaming-at-the-mouth attacks on Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Christie, Ryan, etc., and the kind words of “monica-stain” bill and other leftists for huntsman, mr. romneycare, etc., and their unbounded delight that a rino traitor like AMNESTY-JOHN mccain was nominated in 2008.

Huntsman can kiss my conservative ass.
After he leaves the entourage of candidates….he can get a job on Al Gore’s network….comparing bullshit with Al.

god, is there a slur or lie about Obama which you do not believe? 

Perhaps in the future, you can let us know what hobbies President can have, since golfing is apparently verboten, but mountain biking and brush-clearing on a fake ranch are cool

Yep, Bush helped create it (along with people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd), and Obama’s policies have made it worse.

I come here because I see the site as pretty bipartisan (as opposed to non). I mean, some entries are decidedly liberal (as am I, and I don’t pretend those op/eds or reporting are without a slant, depending on the piece), but some are decidedly conservative posts as well (as are many people here, as seen in the comments as well as the number of people who “like” conservative-leaning posts).

Rather than this site being neutral ground, I think it provides fodder, entertainment, justification, and exposition for people on the left or right or wherever else a person could be philosophically or politically.

As for the Huntsman-centric home page, I chalk that up to the overall cable news media cycle… there’s always gonna be a candidate du jour, it was Gov. Perry the other day, before that it was Rep. Paul, and a while back it was Trump everywhere. We’re *all* just getting a compressed version of the crappy newsfotainment that TV news provides, in hopes for more ad revenue.

1. Interview a person who sparks arguments because they run contrary to the person interviewed in the previous media blitz.
2. ???
3. Profit!

Well, people and business are flocking to Texas because of low taxes and a business friendly climate. Yeah, Perry is crazy — crazy like a fox.

Except that they did take the economy hostage….

By the way, Perry has to actually call for secession to be criticized for suggesting it may be necessary?  What about saying that Texas can leave because it entered the Union as a Republic?  Is establishing a legal basis for secession enough for you, neo-Confederate or should we just ignore it until he actually dresses the Texas National Guard in gray?

PS The cool part is that when perry leads the Texas National Guard off to war at least George W Bush will still NOT be there!

Ah, Pablo, unfamiliar with the basic facts of history and economic theory.  First, as Keynes noted, tax cuts and spending increases are both ways to stimulate demand and counter-act the economic cycle.

Secondly, you are the only person, other than Sean hannity, who is unaware that spending rose in the the 1980′s  Remember, you braying a$$es had a phrase to Uncle Ronny off the hook for it then:  “The president proposes; Congress disposes.” 

Next, Pablo will find it amazing to learn that Reagan raised taxes!

At this point and time, polls don’t mean anything at all… the straw poll itself is rarely an indicator of who gets the R nomination.

Just look back at the last election… McCain was written off and people were waiting for him to announce his drop from the race at one point. If that could happen last election, the Republican nomination this election should be even more surprising. 

Agreed. Huntsman did not help himself with this interview. The last thing Republicans want it a candidate who rides on the Al Gore bandwagon.

For instance, pollution, minimum wage jobs, undereducated kids, empty prairie, and secession minded governors! 

The one thing you won’t find in Texas is people with health insurance

Republicans are the one who lie every hour they speak. They only care about the rich,it is so obvious.Why would any middle class person not understand that?

“Our conclusion was that in a politically theatrical moment, Perry stated
an old (and factually incorrect) claim that Texas retains the right to
leave the union. That is not the same as his saying giddyap, I want to
leave. Perry didn’t call for secession then and hasn’t since.”

Perry claims that Texas has the right to secede;  Michelle and Politfact say “sure, but that doesn’t mean he wants to.”

Could you parse his other mis-statements for us, Michelle.  For instance, last week when he told that kid and his mom “In Texas we teach creationism and evolution.” and that turned out to be completely untrue was he just calling for creationism to be taught? Or, in the newly seceeded Texas, they will or what, Michelle?  Help us parse the plain meaning of what the Governor said.

Meanwhile, Huntsman begins to scare me for 2016.  He might be the only real Republican in this primary and he can interest the independents.

Why wouldn’t you keep it?

Could you ask him for a spelling lesson?

To appeal to Michelle, who just KNOWS the Federal Government oppresses her so much

After you base loses 30 states in 2012, he will

You pay attention to a poll of bribed voters?

Why don’t you wait until he polls at 5% amongst the weirdos in the caucuses before you try to bury him.

Guess we’ll see if you can stop Romney, blue.  you know, like you were able to stop McCain in ’08

stay expat, okay, since Huntsman just happens to be less crazy than you.  he still believes in magic underwear and that what’s best for plutocrats is best for America.  That ain’t our style

Those candidates don’t need Huntsman’s help to like idiots.  They have that part down already

Repubican’s war against the working, middle class and poor exposed again:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44218846/ns/politics/#.TlFW06i4Jl0

these are the people who fought tooth and nail to extend the tax cuts on the rich

Is Michelle really claiming that right wingers get banned here?  Pablo is a neo-Confederate who hangs out on sites so far right wing they think michelle malkin is a squish.  You are the Dana Loesch of mediaite and you have more comments on EVERY story than any other commenter, but you are trying to tell us Mediaite doesn’t want you here? 

Paranoia and victimhood?  Who knew a conservative would believe that?

nature, would that what you say were true.  The truth is that the regular Republicans already have their candidate and, when he loses next year, they will gravitate to Huntsman for 2016.  Meanwhile, these kooks will still here, telling us whatever Limbaugh said yesterday and calling it political analysis

Yeah, no one is nice to Michelle

As a Hoosier, let me just assure that the country is better off without Evan Bayh, corporate whore and believer in nothing. 

have you been reading Michelle’s comments?

cribbed from a Levin monologue and still as childish and stupid as the day Levin burped into the micorphone

What did GOB call Michael in that episode of AD where George Michael runs for student president, 2 percent? That’s what I’m gonna start calling Huntsman, ol 2 percent. The man has no chance. He’s a younger, creepier John McCain. He lied in the debate about secret meetings with the Chinese that he was a part of! (He said they never happened, Rachel Maddow called him out on it). He would continue the Obama administration’s policy of acting weak towards the Chinese and appeasing their every demand. Ron Paul 2012.

“I can’t remember a time in our history where we actually were willing to shun science and become a – a party that – that was antithetical to science,” Huntsman said.

Perry has been listening to way too much Rush Limbaugh. He’s a full blown Dittohead, and under Limbaugh’s Two If By Tea™, historical revisionist spell. These two carnival barking clowns have placed the constitutional right of a STATE to secede, the right of CHURCH to intermingle with STATE, the feud between Evolution and Intelligent Design, and the question of whether Climate CHANGE is a HOAX, right our there on America’s political center stage, 2012.

Unfortunately, for Limbaugh, he’s an idiot when it comes the Constitution, the Founding Fathers, and science. All science. That’s why he hides behind his one-way microphone – he has a dump-the-caller-that-is-handing-him-his-ass button, wouldn’t you know?

This is going to be like “Inherit the Wind”, all over again. How cool is that?

Yeah, because when you have a fat state you need a lot of french fry cooks working at barely minimum wage. If that’s your idea of Perry’s job creation skills, God help the US. 

I agree with you 100 percent. Huntsman will never be the nominee. The GOP doesn’t have the balls to nominate someone who calls out right wing BS talking points. 

The independents are going to be badly fooled if they fall for this set-up: Huntsman is positioning himself for third party run,not to winn cause he can’t,not in a million years, but to re-elect Obama. All Obama needs is for somebody to take a couple of percentage points from Republicans in the general election. Are the independents gullible enough? We shall see

It’s rare to find a moderate in the GOP today.  

Huntsman is a sore looser and rino at best.

The Texas Legislature meets only once every two years, for a regular session of 140 days (maximum) from the second Tuesday in January in odd-numbered years. The Governor may call special sessions at any time, but this is quite rare. Special sessions must address legislation that the governor deems critically important in the conduct of state affairs. They are limited to a period of 30 days, during which the legislature is permitted to pass laws only on subjects submitted by the governor in calling for the session.

In Texas, the Governor is a relatively weak figurehead, while the Lieutenant Governor has the more powerful position. The only legislation which must be passed during the regular session is a balanced budget for the next two years. This year, Governor Perry used federal funds provided for education and heating/cooling help for people needing assistance to balance the Texas budget. Local TV stations are appealing for fans and donations to help with electric bills for people at risk of dying from the extended period of 100 degree heat, while Perry sits on money allocated for that purpose. He has underfunded the Teacher Retirement Fund of Texas and tried to use the Fund for questionable investments while retired Texas teachers have not had as much as a cost of living increase for their pensions since 2001.

Well the DNC seems to like Huntsman. Perhaps they should recruit him to run against Obama.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61792.html

Rick Perry is nothing more than and empty suit using government to enrich himself. This could be ended with public funded elections and making it illegal to take money from the public for personal gains……….The people of Texas should revolt against their government if they were smart………that’s if……..

Dude, I’m not sure I have enough room for another liberal stalker right now. 

The Dems and their minions in the corrupt, liberal media will do everything they can to keep the focus off of jobs and the economy between now and election day. 

They absolutely doTimmy.  I’ve been on the end of that one.  Liberals HATE an opposing point of view almost as much as they hate a newborn baby. 

Now you like Bush?
Fickle libtard!!

I think he has a better chance at beating Obama in the primary….running as a Demtard.
At least he shows some signs of leadership…..and he is an Al Gore fan.
 

…or an honest man in the Democratic Party, Yoda.
Seen any honest LEADERS there recently?

What’s a “looser”? Someone who gets loose? 

Jon Huntsman, you Treasonus Traitor to all of us Conservatives, Independents, and Republicans. Go back over to the Obummer side and stop stabbing everyone on the right in the back you nonChristian mormon. Go gather up thy wives and commit adultry you wacko. You ain’t got a snowball’s chance in Hell of finishing any higher than 6th or 7th place on the Republican side and that is if a couple more candidates drop out. Anti Regan RINO’s like you are not needed on our side. Go back to China where you belong. Because of you and your leader Obumbler, China has taken America to the cleaners, ya bum. Go spend your own money and stop spending ouirs.

Michelle, Can i shave you?

whoislloydc@gmail.com

Blah, blah, blah. I hope you don’t actually spew this kind of drivel in real life. Your friends (if you have any) and your family (assuming they haven’t left you by now) must find you the most grating and obnoxious blowhard they’ve ever known. 

ROTFFLMFAO@U  

What a F*ing Idiot…!

Let’s dissect your moronic post
nonChristian mormon   Mormon Church = Church of Jesus Christ of latter Day Saints
wives  Bigamy is no longer allowed in the mainstream church
Anti Regan RINO’s    the GOP is now so far to the right Obama is to the right of Reagan
China  IT is the GOP’s surrogate arm the chamber of commerce that promotes exporting jobs offshore
 so all in all you are wrong and probably had a lower GPA than Perry
    It’s easy to be NeverWrong in the GOP every time a fact comes up you don’t like you stick your fingers in your ears and yell la la la Climate change la la la, pollution la la la, poverty la la la, corporate greed controlling GOP policy la la la see a trend here

Huntsman reminds me a lot of Obama, cutting others down to make himself look good, talking trash, he believes in Global Warming BS and is all for murdering unborn children.  No, Huntsman needs to run as a Democrat, not a Conservative.  Perry is going to kick the Kenyan and Huntsmans butts in 2012!

Taking my partisan hat off for a moment (while inviting you to do the same) it is my humble opinion that Huntsman is very impressive.

Obama has to be rooting for Perry or even Romney. Huntsman has the potential to destroy the president with moderates and independents 

Ronald Reagan (peace be upon him) said: “Sometimes our right hand doesn’t know what our far right hand is doing.” Now, everybody knows what the far right hand of the Republican/Tea Party is doing, and it is crazy as hell!
Why did Rick Perry jump to second place, right behind Romney on the day he entered the running for president? Because anybody had to be better than the rest of the field. Now that we see Perry is no different than the other crazies, and that is the problem that Huntsman is trying to correct.
It looks like Huntsman might not be able to out-poll the crazies this time, but he will be ideally set up for the 2016 election by having pointed out the insanity of the far right that even Reagan knew was trouble.

By the way, here is another quote from RR: “I’m not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself.” source for both quotes – http://linguaspectrum.com/quotations/by_author_english.php?quoteoftheday_author=Ronald%20Reagan

It is a shame. I do hope that the house-cleaning of the next election will sweep most of the extremists away.
Looking at the bright side, Bachmann is sure to be every bit as relevant as Sharon Angle by 2013. (Out of work and out of the public mind.)

There is only one l in Michele Bachmann.

I agree, but I say Huntsman has to be playing the long game. He will be well set up for 2016.

Speaking for myself, I could name them, but you would reject them, and it is a long list. I bet I could throw in a few honest Republicans and you wouldn’t agree with me on them, either.

I think you are talking about a Boehner Republican, but he is now in the minority of his party, as proven by the fact that he couldn’t get any support from his own party at critical times.

So far, yes. Or, it depends on what polls you are looking at. Any poll that does show the “normal” Republican opinion is a poll that you will reject as biased by some trickery of the left.

From 2010 election exit polls

  just 23 percent said they voted to send a message in favor of the
Tea Party movement, versus 18 percent against it; 55 percent called the
movement “not a factor” in their vote.http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2010_Elections/vote-2010-elections-tea-party-winners-losers/story?id=12023076

Thus, the pro- and anti-teaparty people nearly cancelled each other out even back then, while the other 55% voted swung from center left to center right. This is the common pattern in mid-terms, because independents don’t let any party get too much power for too long.

Looking at Huntsman realistically, he should not want to be president if the teaparty keeps the power it has, or worse yet gains power. The teaparty would fight him as hard as they fight Obama now. He does look like a Democrat to them.

But! If the teaparty gets its clock cleaned this time, Huntsman would want to be president. That combination is a possibility, but for now I have to call it a long shot. Meanwhile, I see the extremism of the teaparty fading fast after 2012, and Huntsman as the best Republican candidate for 2016. 

As for his comment that religion and politics must not reject science, just look at Islam. Islam declared that the state must be run by religious principles and laws and all knowledge was attained about 600 years ago. Look where that got them!

Rick Perry has opened the Title 18, Chapter 115 “Pandora’s Box”. He has intimated that Federal Reserve chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, was “almost treasonous” without providing the subsections of U.S. Codes that were supposedly violated, or any evidence that violations of said code occured.

While Perry throws out these unsubtantiated allegations about Bernanke, he gives his good buddy, and mentor, Rush Limbaugh, a pass on real, evidence based violations of Title 18 Chapter 115 . . .
Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 115: TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
§ 2385, “Advocating overthrow of Government”…

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government;or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so:- Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

§ 2389. “Recruiting for service against United States”…

Whoever recruits soldiers or sailors within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, to engage in armed hostility against the same; or  Whoever opens within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, a recruiting station for the enlistment of such soldiers or sailors to serve in any manner in armed hostility against the United States—

Checkout the mountain of “evidence”, over at Politico, that Limbaugh is sublimanally searching for a “Manchurian Volunteer” . . .
Why America Should Have Seen Rush Limbaugh’s Treasonous Activities Coming

Hey Huntsman,
You know what’s worse than a Race-Baiting Democrat? – A backstabbing Republican!

What’s the matter, was McCain too busy for that role this election?

The “country” is nothing more than a concept, and Rick Perry was coming to the rescue of that concept with his threat of secession. 

At least you’re willing to admit that Perry was, in fact, making a veiled THREAT of secession. Most of your wingnut colleagues on this mediaite site are too chicken$hit to concede that he was doing just that.

As for Perry “rescuing” anything, that’s too laughable to even respond to. You must have a very high tolerance for BS and a very low standard of leadership.

About the only thing Perry or Huntsman have going for them is they would be less bad than the current occupant, but they are both faux conservatives and the country needs a real conservative.

Trying to remain relevant while sounding like a Blue Dog Democrat in the age of the Tea Party?  Well, hey, there’s a winning formula for ya’!

If anything, the media have from the start given Huntsman much more PR than his numbers merit.  I would certainly vote for him over Obama.  I just don’t think he’s a particularly good campaigner, and the GOP base will definitely not support him.  

Devil’s Spawn, what polls are you referring to?  I do have an open mind, and am a libertarian-oriented conservative.  I spend a lot of  time arguing with the social issues GOP base about electability pragmatism.I get the  polls from around the country from Dem poller PPP in an email subscription, and even they don’t show him doing much of anything.  Did you see his announcement speech at NY harbor?  Again, I am not so much personally against him, but the base sure is.  I would like to see the global warming debate go beyond “the scientific community” says X.  I’ve looked a lot into the issue and many top notch scientists disagree with the so-called community.  I’d like to see these issues get a better airing, but each side will inevitably just speak in one-liner generalities.

Devil’s Spawn, you’ve chosen I assume an ironic name, since you are a very well reasoned commenter on the left.  And I mean that as a huge compliment!

While it’s true that Huntsman is desparate and knows he has little chance of getting the nomination, he brings attention to the fact that candidates like Bachmann and Perry cannot and will not win the independent vote. If their strategy is to go far right to get the nomination and then pretend that they are center right for purposes of the general election is to think that independents are idiots and don’t recognize the hypocrisy behind it. The T-Vangelicals are dragging conservatives too far to the right and in an any other envirnment where jobs and the economy were not such big issues, while Bachmann doesn’t stand a chance of winning the nomination, Perry would be destroyed in a general election. The party would be well advised to at least consider and take seriously what Huntsman had stated.

Who was it that signed that bill into law?

Is there something about the word secession that bothers you?

Probably because most middle class people are sufficiently educated enough to see through the your sophomoric reasoning.  

You may have a point. As the number of bottom-feeders grow (Liberals), we see the middle class becoming extinct. Soon, we will reach the Liberal Valhalla of big government, and the subservient poor.
Personally, I can’t wait, can you?  

Clearly, Huntsman is a Demo-rat.

What’s really insane is thinking this government has the professionalism needed to get the job done.  

Isn’t that what Obimbo depended on? It certainly wasn’t smarts, was it.

Huntsman: Too reasonable, intelligent and sane for today’s Republicans. The more extreme, dumb and outrageous the better. Thank you Sarah. Run Sarah Run.

Sorry but I honestly have no idea who Devil’s Spawn is and the other stuff you are talking about? You might be replying to me by accident.

I absoultely did not post anything about “devils spawn? I must have been responding to someone that had said something about it and you must have thought I was the one posting it. Swear to God. In fact I had no idea want it meant until I researched it. I stll would vote for Obama before Huntsman especially in light of the last two interviews I saw him on so I’m not as big a fan as I was. But he’s not one of the extreme right lunatics or thinks like a teabagger. That’s what he does have going for him.

I used to be a TRUE REPUBLICAN.  I liked Ike, Gerry Ford and even Nixon wasn’t too bad compared to the clowns running for the GOP this time.  The Republican Party left me by the side of the road on their trip to the edge of reason.  I refuse to go on that mental vacation to the far right side of foolishness.  If Huntsman is a RINO I guess RINO means the smartest guy in the bunch.