Oh, I have already Posted on the Tingles thread.
Ms Rice just put a Major League Ass Whoopin’
on this A/H O’Donnell.
Even I almost felt sorry for him!
LMAO

Lawrence can be a little too aggressive. But it was so awkward I had to laugh a couple of times.

Rice was among the Bush administration officials who tried to establish a link between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, a link they later backed away from.

Who and where was Ansar al-Islam? Who hosted Abu Musab al-Zarqawi after he got himself blowed up in Afghanistan?

Saddam was not behind 9/11, but he was playing footsie with al-Qaeda. It’s the enemy of my enemy is my friend doctrine.

Hmm… When O’Reilly interupts his guests he’s demonized. When O’Donnell does it he gets a pass.

Tribunal said:
Hmm… When O’Reilly interupts his guests he’s demonized. When O’Donnell does it he gets a pass.

No I think MS Rice handled it very well
O’Donnell tried to bully the wrong person.
Couple times there, I thought she was going to punch
him in the mouth. I think he thought so, too!!
lol

Can you imagine any host treating the black president the way they treat the first black female secretary of state? They would immeidately be deemed a racist; but alas, Condi is a republican and LOD is a loony liberal, so it’s all ok.

Got it. Check on the complete double standard.

Oh and you really should revisit this statement: ” Rice was among the Bush administration officials who tried to establish a link between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, a link they later backed away from” since the1998 indictment of OBL had already established that link:.

4. Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.

So please, let’s keep to the facts at the time and not try to reinvent history by trashing the black woman in order to praise the black man. Honestly.

LOD is clearly a racist, if one applies the standard he applies to everyone who happens to disagree with the the President.

I haven’t seen it yet, but something tells me she will take her lies and incompetence to the grave.

Lawrence you have a bad habit with your guests, interupting and talking over them who do you think you are Bill O’Reilly??

She seemed taken aback at O’Donnell’s interview style. Did she think she was getting Sean Hannity and a bunch of softball questions? Not a big LOD fan, but good for him for keeping after her even though it was a losing battle getting her to actually answer/acknowledge anything.

How does she sleep at night with the deaths of 4,000 Americans she helped send into Iraq based on lies? Show some remorse for God’s sake.

Lawrence O’Donnell is the most insufferable douche I have ever seen anchor a cable news show. I think Ed Shultz is more likable. But that’s like saying I like Kobe better than Mike Tyson in a contest between which rapist athlete I hate the least.

If anyone here thinks O’Donnell came out best in that interview,
you had better go back and watch again. I think the A/H most likely
needed help getting to his car.

Then he brings that guy Maddow on, asking him,,,,

How’d I do? How’d I do? How’d I do?

Good Lord!! LMAO

Newsjunky said:
She seemed taken aback at O’Donnell’s interview style. Did she think she was getting Sean Hannity and a bunch of softball questions? Not a big LOD fan, but good for him for keeping after her even though it was a losing battle getting her to actually answer/acknowledge anything. How does she sleep at night with the deaths of 4,000 Americans she helped send into Iraq based on lies? Show some remorse for God’s sake.

Bet she sleeps better than you! Liberals always have a hard time trying to keep up with the lies they tell every single day.

He should never have another guest on his show….not one.

jo hoochie said:
Bet she sleeps better than you! Liberals always have a hard time trying to keep up with the lies they tell every single day.

Yo Coochie. That’s the best you can come up with? LMAO! You won’t last long here.

Tribunal said:
Hmm… When O’Reilly interupts his guests he’s demonized. When O’Donnell does it he gets a pass.

No, he’s actually cheered. “Good for him” is just above.

He’s a media degenerate. If not a career in journalism, a guy like this, would be rubbing heels in the mens room.
Had Ms Rice physically slapped him, he’d have gone into a convulsive tantrum. When you put the likes of O’Donnell, Schultz, Matthews, Bahr, and their counterparts across the entire liberal spectrum, you have a pathetic array of human waste.

Newsjunky said:
Yo Coochie. That’s the best you can come up with? LMAO! You won’t last long here.

I’m really worried newspunky!

Who could complain about the excellent results in Iraq.

It is not like the Donald, attention whore (R), wants to go and seize their oil fields in repayment for the Bush war crime cabal sinking 1 trillion dollars “so they don’t fight us over here”

Jaurez said:
No, he’s actually cheered. “Good for him” is just above.

So, Jeffy.

Are you still keeping count of the AMERICAN dead bodies in Iraq?

Barack Must Go said:
He should never have another guest on his show….not one.

I don’t know why anyone would ever agree to appear on that stupid
show with that Jerk.
But he WON’T INVITE Ms Rice again!
Couple times when she told him to “shut the hell up” he
shut the hell up. Of course she was a little nicer than I’m
describing it!

The new layout of the website sucks. Pages that take twice as long to load is never good for traffic. Msnbc freakin popups don’t help, either. If you live in the concrete jungle and have 66g or whatever is available now, it’s fine, I guess. For others, not so much.

Jaurez said:
The new layout of the website sucks. Pages that take twice as long to load is never good for traffic. Msnbc freakin popups don’t help, either. If you live in the concrete jungle and have 66g or whatever is available now, it’s fine, I guess. For others, not so much.

Do what you did before, Jeffy.

Point your dessert beagle to the computer and unload.

That will make your Tandy look better.

Pablo said:
Who hosted Abu Musab al-Zarqawi after he got himself blowed up in Afghanistan?

Nobody, though he did break into Iraq, where Saddam repeatedly tried to kill him.

Condoleezza Rice, like her former boss G.W. Bush lis a lying hypocrite. She repeated lied during the interview. When Bush ordered the Iraqi killings Hussein’s mass murders of Iraqi citizens were long over. Those murder had occurred nearly a decade before when Bush’s father encouraged the Kurds to rebel then he let them be slaughtered. As a result of the policies put in place by her administration over 100,000 Iraqi civilians were senselessly killed. There was a no fly zone over the areas that Hussein had attacked before in is country. Rice was trying to muddy the water with distortions and falsehoods which has been her pattern. Remember she is the one who said that the Clinton administration had not warned the incoming Bush administration about the fact that they considered Al Qaeda to be America’s greatest threat. Richard Clarke proved that lie. He had written a memo which was titled just that and sent it to Condi Rice. Bob Woodward verified the fact that Rice had lied in his book Bust At War. Rice is and always has been a sleazy, dishonest person.

Wow, people are still trying to sell the Iraq-and-al-Quaeda-were-connected lie.

sockylongstocking, zooey stopped keeping track of troop casualties on jan 16 of ’09. Take it up w/her, k?

’08.

Pablo said:

Saddam was not behind 9/11, but he was playing footsie with al-Qaeda. It’s the enemy of my enemy is my friend doctrine.

Since he was an enemy of al-Qaeda, that would have made him our friend, making the invasion of Iraq in 2003 epic incompetence.

For Gay Lawrence O’Donnell, this type of so called journalism is par for the course! This character has very serious anger and personality issues. He needs help but, it doesn’t appear that Comcast cares. I’d get this a**hole checked into a good mental institution and let the Psychiatrists determine whether a 10 year or 20 year stay would be best.

Having said that it is also very apparent that PMS/LSDnbc is out of control. How can anyone work there and keep a straight face? It is Kindegarten time 24/7 at 30Rock.

TfT said:
Oh and you really should revisit this statement: ” Rice was among the Bush administration officials who tried to establish a link between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, a link they later backed away from” since the1998 indictment of OBL had already established that link:.

4. Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.

So, al Qaeda was more closely connected to Kevin Bacon than to Iraq, where Saddam was their enemy.

Why would she give this piece of shit an interview anyways…like 6 people watch him. And after watching this its evident why.

Jaurez said:
sockylongstocking, zooey stopped keeping track of troop casualties on jan 16 of ‘09. Take it up w/her, k?

Who is ZOOEY?

And why I am supposed to ask ZOOEY when I am asking you?

“Rice was among the Bush administration officials who tried to establish a link between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, a link they later backed away from”

You left out some key information there, Mr. Christopher.

The link between AQ and Hussein was first made by the Clinton Administration in their indictment of Bin Laden for, among other things, the bombings of our embassies in Africa and the attack on the USS Cole.

It, i.e, the link and that part of the indictment, was later withdrawn after Saddam was removed from power and additional evidence showed the charges to be incorrect.

But again, it was the Clinton Administration that first made the connection, not the Bush White House.

Like every communist, Lawrence O’Donnell loves his country and always tells the truth.

This is why MSNBC hosts avoid interviewing smart Republicans. They get called out and look pretty silly. Mr. O’Donnell got manhandled here by Ms. Rice. He probably wishes he had stuck to his monologues on birth certificates.

ReFlex76 said:
Since he was an enemy of al-Qaeda, that would have made him our friend, making the invasion of Iraq in 2003 epic incompetence.

How do you figure he was an enemy of al-Qaeda? BTW, that doctrine is wrong, especially in that part of the world.

SteveMG said:
“Rice was among the Bush administration officials who tried to establish a link between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, a link they later backed away from”

You left out some key information there, Mr. Christopher.

The link between AQ and Hussein was first made by the Clinton Administration in their indictment of Bin Laden for, among other things, the bombings of our embassies in Africa and the attack on the USS Cole.

It, i.e, the link and that part of the indictment, was later withdrawn after Saddam was removed from power and additional evidence showed the charges to be incorrect.

But again, it was the Clinton Administration that first made the connection, not the Bush White House.

Here we go again… Clinton MADE us IDIOT gNOpigs DO IT!

Because the gNOpigs are sooooooo dumb, so lacking in initiative, if Cheney told them to go Cheney themselves they would do it right in front of Scooter.

Kudos to her for agreeing to the interview when she could have gone on Fox news, especially when its to defend her role in the great debacle. She did a good job maintaining her poise where her best argument amounts to:
I left my loaded gun out and my 10 year old shot herself. We grieved but my wife had another child. That child is 10 now and brings so much joy into our lives. Wasn’t it a good thing that I left my gun out?
The truth of life is that good flows from wrongdoing.

Skippy said:
Here we go again… Clinton MADE us IDIOT gNOpigs DO IT!

Hmmmmmmm…..

Skippy said:
Here we go again… Clinton MADE us IDIOT gNOpigs DO IT!

Because the gNOpigs are sooooooo dumb, so lacking in initiative, if Cheney told them to go Cheney themselves they would do it right in front of Scooter.

gNOpig? Where have I heard that before?

Look at all the racists bashing Condoleezza Rice simply because she’s Black!

Pablo said:
Hmmmmmmm…..

You compare holding a no-fly zone with outright invasion and occupation, at the tune of $1 US T, which is ending in failure?

You want to pin the Iraq failre on Bill Clinton?

Who is Salacious Crumb said:
gNOpig? Where have I heard that before?

Giggles is your friend.

OxyCon said:
Look at all the racists bashing Condoleezza Rice simply because she’s Black!

Here come the idiots.

OxyCon said:
Look at all the racists bashing Condoleezza Rice simply because she’s Black!

Perhaps you can make a list?

Skippy said:
It is not like the Donald, attention whore (R), wants to go and seize their oil fields in repayment for the Bush war crime cabal sinking 1 trillion dollars “so they don’t fight us over here”

I’m sorry, but I always feel obligated to ask the question, “What war crimes specifically?” Because the answer is always “evolving.”

So for today, what were the specific “war crimes” which you’re complaining about?

ReFlex76 said:
So, al Qaeda was more closely connected to Kevin Bacon than to Iraq, where Saddam was their enemy.

What would have happened had the United States continued to focus in Afghanistan? Do you think that Iraq would have stayed silent? Would they have let us be, or would they (much like Iran) have begun to interfere, arm out enemies, and work to semi-covertly attack us from the sidelines? Iraq may not have gotten along with bin Laden and his crew, but they certainly disliked us more.

Skippy said:
Here we go again… Clinton MADE us IDIOT gNOpigs DO IT! Because the gNOpigs are sooooooo dumb, so lacking in initiative, if Cheney told them to go Cheney themselves they would do it right in front of Scooter.

Why the name change, Bovine? As we all know, only one person uses the “gNOpig” nonsense over an over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again… despite nobody really understanding it.

So why the name change?

“Here we go again… Clinton MADE us IDIOT gNOpigs DO IT!”

Nowhere did I say that Clinton made us invade Iraq. The decision was made by Bush after Congress authorized the action. Bill Clinton had nothing to do with it.

My sole point was that the connection between Saddam and Osama Bin Laden was first made by the Clinton Justice Department in their indictment of Bin Laden.

The Bush Administration – using that same information – made the same claim.

As I noted, the allegation was shown to be incorrect.

If you care to address that point, you’re welcome to do so. If you wish to be silly, you’re on your own.

Skippy said:
You compare holding a no-fly zone with outright invasion and occupation, at the tune of $1 US T, which is ending in failure?

You want to pin the Iraq failre on Bill Clinton?

You should try some actual reading. Bush 41 was in office when the No Fly Zone was imposed. The Iraq Liberation Act is not about the NFZ.

BTW, how is Iraq ending in failure?

Who is Salacious Crumb said:
gNOpig

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/michael-steele-says-hes-uncomforatble-with-rand-pauls-views-on-civil-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-62009

ImNotBlue said:
I’m sorry, but I always feel obligated to ask the question, “What war crimes specifically?” Because the answer is always “evolving.”

So for today, what were the specific “war crimes” which you’re complaining about?

Why the name change, Bovine? As we all know, only one person uses the “gNOpig” nonsense over an over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again… despite nobody really understanding it.

So why the name change?

Sending 4,500+ AMERICANS to die for the WMDs lie is not enough for you?

As for the moniker change, I will answer right after your boyfriends Jeff Merrill and the hermaphrodite, er, The Lantern of Real Queens answer the same question.

I suspect they have something to hide.

SteveMG said:
Nowhere did I say that Clinton made us invade Iraq. The decision was made by Bush after Congress authorized the action. Bill Clinton had nothing to do with it.

Bubba did sign the Iraq Liberation Act into law, making regime change in Iraq the official policy of the USA.

Who is Salacious Crumb said:
gNOpig? Where have I heard that before?

Romper Room? The booby hatch?

Who is Salacious Crumb said:
gNOpig? Where have I heard that before?

It’s troll/sockpuppet speak.

Pablo said:
You should try some actual reading. Bush 41 was in office when the No Fly Zone was imposed. The Iraq Liberation Act is not about the NFZ.

BTW, how is Iraq ending in failure?

And Clinton was NOT in President at the time. And Clinton did not authorize the invasion of Iraq.

Clear enough for you?

Pablo said:
Bubba did sign the Iraq Liberation Act into law, making regime change in Iraq the official policy of the USA.

It is working GRRRREAT, ain’t it?

“Bubba did sign the Iraq Liberation Act into law, making regime change in Iraq the official policy of the USA”

Yes; but the decision to go into Iraq was made by Congress and President Bush.

I appreciate the point bu let’s not get sidetracked here; the Clinton Administration first made the claim that Bin Laden was working with Iraq. Tommy Christopher and the left want to ignore this.

The Bush Administration simply used that same information to make the same claims.

It proves – to me – that the charges that they made it up are completely and totally false.

it was a great takedown…..i thought condi was gonna start to cry….the fbi should have been waiting outside to haul her wingnut torturing lying black ass to jail

Skippy said:
It is working GRRRREAT, ain’t it?

You miss Saddam, don’t you, bunky?

ProObamaAgenda said:
it was a great takedown…..i thought condi was gonna start to cry….the fbi should have been waiting outside to haul her wingnut torturing lying black ass to jail

At least she works for a living, looter.

Condi Rice did a great Job in interview. Great job at spewing and underscoring the lies of George W. Bush..

OxyCon said:
Look at all the racists bashing Condoleezza Rice simply because she’s Black!

The SAME reason that you bash her predecessor Colin Powell??

At least you’re coming out and admitting that you’re a racist!!!

Trying to layer it with sarcasm doesn’t hide it CLOWN!! HAHAHAHAH

Jaurez said:
It’s troll/sockpuppet speak.

And you Jeffy?

You alone here in Mediaite you’ve gone from Olby Sucks, Lover, 100+ sock puppets and now your stupidity landed you in “Jaurez”

What is wrong with you? What are you hiding?

SteveMG said:
It proves – to me – that the charges that they made it up are completely and totally false.

Indeed they are, as are the claims that taking Saddam out was all Bush’s idea. It was, as I noted, our official policy when Bush took office. What he did that Clinton didn’t do is follow through on it.

hey wingnuts im enjoying the debate on FIXED NOISE…..Fox is doing the repukes a favor by eliminating the 5 wingnuts on the stage from the race…..those idiots all think they are running against Obama and not each other…FOX never asked any of them the same question thus never giving them the opportunity to debate each other…….THIS DEBATE WAS A DISGRACE

ProObamaAgenda said:
it was a great takedown…..i thought condi was gonna start to cry….the fbi should have been waiting outside to haul her wingnut torturing lying black ass to jail

Racist much? Rhetorical question, of course.

grafxmail7 said:
The SAME reason that you bash her predecessor Colin Powell??

That’s the left that was slaughtering Powell. Until he endorsed Obama, that is. He was a war criminal too, until then. But all if forgiven, huh?

ProObamaAgenda said:
hey wingnuts im enjoying the debate on FIXED NOISE…..Fox is doing the repukes a favor by eliminating the 5 wingnuts on the stage from the race…..those idiots all think they are running against Obama and not each other…FOX never asked any of them the same question thus never giving them the opportunity to debate each other…….THIS DEBATE WAS A DISGRACE

Hi there.

Pablo said:
You miss Saddam, don’t you, bunky?

No, you moron. F-U.

Go tell the families of those 4,500+ AMERICANS who died for NO GOOD REASON they should blame Clinton.

Grow a pair before you start blaming the Iraq-nam quagmire on Clinton or Obama.

Skippylongstocking said:
And you Jeffy?

You alone here in Mediaite you’ve gone from Olby Sucks, Lover, 100+ sock puppets and now your stupidity landed you in “Jaurez”

What is wrong with you? What are you hiding?

Prove it.

Pablo said:
Indeed they are, as are the claims that taking Saddam out was all Bush’s idea. It was, as I noted, our official policy when Bush took office. What he did that Clinton didn’t do is follow through on it.

Good point.

For some reason – I think we know why – the left (or many of them) wish to make the 1990s disappear when it comes to Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. The Clinton Administration – and many Democrats – made many of the same charges that the Bush White House did. That is, that they had a relationship and both were engaging in terror or plans of terror against us.

To be sure, nearly all of those claims about Saddam and OBL were shown to be wrong. But they weren’t made up by the Bush White House to justify the invasion.

It’s fair to criticize Bush for those inaccurate claims. But to do so once has to criticize Clinton too. And many Democrats as well (Hillary and Joe Biden for example).

And if they do that they lose the partisan advantage they’re trying to gain.

LOL @ FRANK LUNTZ’S PANEL SAYING HERMAN CAIN WON THE DEBATE….THERES YOUR PROOF….FOX SABOTAGED THE DEBATE……CAIN WAS THE WORSE BY FAR

SteveMG said:
And if they do that they lose the partisan advantage they’re trying to gain.

Which is why you won’t find intellectual honesty or ideological consistency on the left. Hate they’ve got in spades, though. Just on this page we’ve got this grafx thing, POA and Skippy each blowing a gasket. They just HATE. It’s all they’ve got.

Ok Mediaite, please stop using the word epic in your story titles, it has past overkill and is now on the verge of sheer annoyance

Skippy said:
Sending 4,500+ AMERICANS to die for the WMDs lie is not enough for you?

Well… since none of those are actually “war crimes,” no. Are you familiar with the definition? Shall I copy it over from Wiki? Must we go down that route?

As for the moniker change, I will answer right after your boyfriends Jeff Merrill and the hermaphrodite, er, The Lantern of Real Queens answer the same question. I suspect they have something to hide.

Who? And how do they impact you?

ProObamaAgenda said:
it was a great takedown…..i thought condi was gonna start to cry….the fbi should have been waiting outside to haul her wingnut torturing lying black ass to jail

You’re still easily the most racist person on this site. Congrats.

ITS SO FUNNY WATCHING STAGED POLITICS ON fox…..WE KNOW GOOD AND GOT DAMMED WELL THAT THOSE S CAROLINA REDNECKS AINT GONNA VOTE FOR A BLACK MAN IF THEIR LIVES DEPENDED ON IT….what a freaking joke FOX is pulling on the viewers

Pablo said:
That’s the left that was slaughtering Powell. Until he endorsed Obama, that is. He was a war criminal too, until then. But all if forgiven, huh?

I can only speak for myself as I spent some time in a group called the US ARMY. I have always had great respect Colin Powell. Period!

ProObamaAgenda said:
LOL @ FRANK LUNTZ’S PANEL SAYING HERMAN CAIN WON THE DEBATE….THERES YOUR PROOF….FOX SABOTAGED THE DEBATE……CAIN WAS THE WORSE BY FAR

I thought the progressive meme was “only racist bigots watched Fox?” Huh. Thanks for watching. ;)

Jaurez said:
Prove it.

You are the same stupid moron.

Clucker, Cecelia, Hagzilla, the hermaphrodite, Mark Koldys, eating Big Macs from my window, blackdung, retardo Chimeri, wanna be a gansta Fox Fan, dumb Phuck, etc are witnesses to your shame.

But do continue pretending. ;>)

ImNotBlue said:
Well… since none of those are actually “war crimes,” no. Are you familiar with the definition? Shall I copy it over from Wiki? Must we go down that route?

As for the moniker change, I will answer right after your boyfriends Jeff Merrill and the hermaphrodite, er, The Lantern of Real Queens answer the same question. I suspect they have something to hide.

Who? And how do they impact you?

You’re still easily the most racist person on this site. Congrats.

you damn right …i dont like sell outs like condi…. since im black i suppose me smacking down a black person isnt racist…is it??? if so i guess im klan just like you

Pablo said:
Just on this page we’ve got this grafx thing, POA and Skippy each blowing a gasket. They just HATE. It’s all they’ve got.

Well, the internet has all kinds of crazy people posting ridiculous things. It’s an act, a pose. Pick the most extreme view and get attention.

I was responding to Tommy Christopher’s little note on this. For some reason he forgot to mention that the Bush Administration’s claims of a connection between OBL and Saddam came from intelligence that was acquired by the Clinton Administration. The Clinton White House was the first to make the link.

The Bush White House just repeated it.

No, I’m not blaming Clinton (that’s not directed at you Pablo). No, no, no. Got it?

Lawrence O’Donnell. He got plastic soul…an he superbad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ9CLOEOB5U&feature=related

ProObamaAgenda said:
you damn right …i dont like sell outs like condi…. since im black i suppose me smacking down a black person isnt racist…is it??? if so i guess im klan just like you

a sell out, no, nothing racial there lol

lawrence thanks for the fried Rice!!!!

Skippy said:
dumb Phuck

That’s AAP, right? Must be.

ProObamaAgenda said:
you damn right …i dont like sell outs like condi…. since im black i suppose me smacking down a black person isnt racist…is it??? if so i guess im klan just like you

Well, the problem is (1) you’re most likely not actually black, and (2) you can be racist if you base your hateful comments on someone else’s race first and foremost… which you do.

Additionally, you apparently believe that everyone who disagrees with you is a “Klan” member. That too is a racist (not to mention egotistical) view… which you continue to push.

Why do you think racism is an effective way of arguing your political position?

cjd ohio 1 said:
a sell out, no, nothing racial there lol

Yea, that’s pretty damning thinking.

SteveMG said:
The Clinton White House was the first to make the link.

The Bush White House just repeated it.

Of course, there’s also that classic list of Democrats quoted on WMD’s in Iraq which must be ignored so they can scream BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!!!!

Because it’s all about the hate, in the end.

Jaurez said:
I thought the progressive meme was “only racist bigots watched Fox?” Huh. Thanks for watching. ;)

oh i watch fox all the time…..i love it…..im deeply fascinated by utter stupidity……and FOX provides me a big dose of that…..watching them operate keeps me up on how racist and intellectually inept you wingnuts are

ImNotBlue said:
Well… since none of those are actually “war crimes,” no. Are you familiar with the definition? Shall I copy it over from Wiki? Must we go down that route?

As for the moniker change, I will answer right after your boyfriends Jeff Merrill and the hermaphrodite, er, The Lantern of Real Queens answer the same question. I suspect they have something to hide.

Who? And how do they impact you?

You’re still easily the most racist person on this site. Congrats.

Jeffy and the hermaphrodite are a separate race? – OK. If you say so.

Oh, you dumbshit. Jeffy used to post as “olby sucks” and the hermaphrodite as “Arssley” now “IMRIGHT” at the Koldys Klub Klown.

If changing monikers bothers you so much, you go ahead and ask them why they do it.

“Because it’s all about the hate, in the end”

Yeah, facts don’t really matter. It’s the tribalism of politics. My tribe is good; the other tribe is evil.

No shades of gray.

ImNotBlue said:
Well, the problem is (1) you’re most likely not actually black, and (2) you can be racist if you base your hateful comments on someone else’s race first and foremost… which you do.

Additionally, you apparently believe that everyone who disagrees with you is a “Klan” member. That too is a racist (not to mention egotistical) view… which you continue to push.

Why do you think racism is an effective way of arguing your political position?

Obamabot is about as black as “cobra” is.

OMG you guys did you see the REPUBLICAN DEBATE on FOX NEWS (The Most Powerful Name in News) tonight?!?!?!111 I think I speak for ALL Right-Thinking Americans when I say that I haven’t seen a group of WINNERS like that since the Chicago Bulls of the early 90′s!!!!!111 Honestly I don’t know WHICH ONE is my favorite because they’re all SO AWESOME!!!!!!!11 Look out, 0bamessiah!!!!111

THATS “S GOLD kArL !!!!!!!!2222 GOLD !!!!!222

SteveMG said:
“Because it’s all about the hate, in the end”

Yeah, facts don’t really matter. It’s the tribalism of politics. My tribe is good; the other tribe is evil.

No shades of gray.

Have you ever read Bill Whittle’s Tribes? It may be the best thing I’ve ever seen on the internet. The references are a bit dated now, but the clarity remains intact.

LOL…I expected to watch this video and see the “maniac” version of O’Donnell but he was a real pussycat.
Sure he interrupted a few times but so did she. (4:27)
Never raising his voice, he decimated her with tough questions and a smug smile.

So funny when she started losing it and getting all bent out of shape.

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WCinWI, Barack Must Go, NOBAMA, Colorado_Conservative, gordonbloyershow
TeaPartyPatriot, notsofast, Severian, Dronetek, TfT, mitchflorida, skoorbekim
mdanielson, Harry Flashman, OxyCon and NORBIT

Karl Spensen said:
OMG you guys did you see the REPUBLICAN DEBATE on FOX NEWS (The Most Powerful Name in News) tonight?!?!?!111 I think I speak for ALL Right-Thinking Americans when I say that I haven’t seen a group of WINNERS like that since the Chicago Bulls of the early 90’s!!!!!111 Honestly I don’t know WHICH ONE is my favorite because they’re all SO AWESOME!!!!!!!11 Look out, 0bamessiah!!!!111

Exactly Karl, let’s find someone with good old community organizing “executive experience” with qualifications such as this the possibilities are endless

ImNotBlue said:
Well, the problem is (1) you’re most likely not actually black, and (2) you can be racist if you base your hateful comments on someone else’s race first and foremost… which you do.

Additionally, you apparently believe that everyone who disagrees with you is a “Klan” member. That too is a racist (not to mention egotistical) view… which you continue to push.

Why do you think racism is an effective way of arguing your political position?

oh im black all right……all my life ….in fact both of my parents and my brothers and sisters are black too….nothing fake about me but this screen name…i dont need to lie to you stupid ass wingnuts on here…i just like Obama loves putting my black ass foot up the ass of you republicans…u take it so well….youre just like the inflatable clown with the sand in the bottom that i got for xmas one year…no matter how much i punched that thing it kept bouncin back up….as far as me using race to discuss politics…i do it because i can….maybe you should ask your daddy Rush “barack the magic negro” limbaugh that question……..bet you wontdipshit

Pablo said:
Of course, there’s also that classic list of Democrats quoted on WMD’s in Iraq which must be ignored so they can scream BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!!!!

Because it’s all about the hate, in the end.

Damn that list has a lot of high ranking Democrats that believed Saddam had WMDs. And a lot of democrats wanted to use military force against Iraq.

ProObamaAgenda said:
….as far as me using race to discuss politics…i do it because i can….maybe you should ask your daddy Rush “barack the magic negro” limbaugh that question……..bet you wontdipshit

and rush does it because he can, that would be my guess

Let me get this right – you guys are fighting over who’s who?
You’re kidding right?

I’ve always been really impressed with Dr. Rice. A brilliant mind and that racist Bush… oh sorry – Bush was about as far from racist as possible.

Lawrence didn’t even listen to her answers – his mind was trying to form his next question. She made him look exactly what he is a freak stupid blowhard. She told him so in her very measured way. Thanks Condi – Lawrence went straight home and cried that he was so misunderstood.

WaterLoo said:
Exactly Karl, let’s find someone with good old community organizing “executive experience” with qualifications such as this the possibilities are endless

HahahAhahahaHAHA “community organizer”!!!!!!!111 What a JOKE!!!!!!11 Just like TEACHERS, community organizers are EVIL DRAINS ON OUR SOCIETY who CANNOT BE TRUSTED!!!!!!!!!1111

Crazy Larry needs to stick to interviewing Orly Taitz and the like. He was clearly out of his league in this interview.

Jaurez said:
That’s AAP, right? Must be.

Don’t know him.

Good chap. I did hear about how he dragged your arse all across the blogs, with you demanding the ref to ring the bell and stop him.

I did hear something about him paying you a visit in Cali.

Pablo said:
That’s the left that was slaughtering Powell. Until he endorsed Obama, that is. He was a war criminal too, until then. But all if forgiven, huh?

ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

EVERYONE I know respected Colin Powell and felt sorry for him in that administration,

O’Donnell comes off as such a douchebag in this interview. His interview style is like Stephen Colbert when Colbert asks guests, “Was Bush a great president or the greatest president?”. Except Colbert’s being satirical, whereas O’Donnell’s just being a dickishly bad interviewer.

ProObamaAgenda said:
.maybe you should ask your daddy Rush “barack the magic negro” limbaugh that question…

Maybe you should ask David Ehrenstein that question, and then read the lyrics. (Keep in mind that they’re sung in the voice of Al Sharpton.) Oh, and here’s Dave. 5th pic down.

Now what was that you were just saying about Condi Rice, POA? You sound a lot like Al.

Rush Gingrich said:
ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

EVERYONE I know respected Colin Powell and felt sorry for him in that administration,

Really? You should get out more.

ProObamabot says:

How do you keep track of all your names?

Pablo said:
Really? You should get out more.

So, Pebbles,

Are you clear on WHO sent 4,500+ AMERICANS to die in Iraq for absolutely NO GOOD REASON?

Brian K. Withers said:
Damn that list has a lot of high ranking Democrats that believed Saddam had WMDs. And a lot of democrats wanted to use military force against Iraq.

A lot of them voted for it. But Bush just bamboozeled them all. With Clinton’s CIA Director.

Skippy said:
Jeffy and the hermaphrodite are a separate race? – OK. If you say so. Oh, you dumbshit. Jeffy used to post as “olby sucks” and the hermaphrodite as “Arssley” now “IMRIGHT” at the Koldys Klub Klown. If changing monikers bothers you so much, you go ahead and ask them why they do it.

Um… I didn’t say anything about their “race.”

But more importantly, how much longer do you think you can explain your behavior, by referencing them? Do they control you? Are you required to emulate them?

Think for yourself, man.

ProObamaAgenda said:
i dont need to lie to you stupid ass wingnuts on here…i just like Obama loves putting my black ass foot up the ass of you republicans…

Nobody really needs to lie… but apparently you do it anyway. Strange.

Oh, and how exactly is YOUR foot going anywhere? And how does your alleged race have anything to do with it?

Skippy said:
So, Pebbles,

Are you clear on WHO sent 4,500+ AMERICANS to die in Iraq for absolutely NO GOOD REASON?

No. When did that happen?

ImNotBlue said:
Oh, and how exactly is YOUR foot going anywhere? And how does your alleged race have anything to do with it?

He laughs at us when he’s swiping his EBT card. Take that.

Jaurez said:
ProObamabot says:

How do you keep track of all your names?

Counting 1 through 10.

Should be easy for you, Jeffy , as you service your favorite horse 10 times a day.

Karl Spensen said:
HahahAhahahaHAHA “community organizer”!!!!!!!111 What a JOKE!!!!!!11 Just like TEACHERS, community organizers are EVIL DRAINS ON OUR SOCIETY who CANNOT BE TRUSTED!!!!!!!!!1111

Exactly Karl, community organizer’s and teachers have sufficient qualifications and executive experience to run for POTUS. My son, who I named Barack, when it was the #1 most popular baby name in the United States, is being mocked at school because his goal is to become POTUS. Can you imagine the nerve?

Skippy said:
So, Pebbles,

Are you clear on WHO sent 4,500+ AMERICANS to die in Iraq for absolutely NO GOOD REASON?

A lot of democrats voted yea
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

Pablo said:
No. When did that happen?

Pebbles,

Perhaps you can show us all them WMDs in Iraq.

Go on.

Brian K. Withers said:
A lot of democrats voted yea
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

And tell us again WHO sold that BS and SIGNED ON IT.

Don’t tell me it was Chimperor Bush with a (R) congress.

Skippy said:
And tell us again WHO sold that BS and SIGNED ON IT.

Don’t tell me it was Chimperor Bush with a (R) congress.

Check that link the Democrats believed he had WMDs way before 2003 and Bush

ImNotBlue said:
Um… I didn’t say anything about their “race.”

You accused me of being racist. “The biggest racist on this site”

Go ahead and prove it.

Skippy said:
Don’t know him.

ROFL! Yea, I wouldn’t admit to being that loser, either. ;)

Skippy said:
Pebbles,

Perhaps you can show us all them WMDs in Iraq.

Go on.

That doesn’t answer my question. How about if you do that? It’s your turn.

Rush Gingrich said:
ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. EVERYONE I know respected Colin Powell and felt sorry for him in that administration,

what absolute nonsense.

Brian K. Withers said:
Check that link the Democrats believed he had WMDs way before 2003 and Bush

The same ol’ ol’ BS.

Bill Clinton and the Democrats made us do it!

We really didn’t want to invade Iraq, but them evil made us do it!

Condolizza Rice was to have given a speech on Sept. 12, 2001, supporting the proliferation of the “Star Wars missle defence program,” believing threats from I.C.B.M. capable nations were the most serious threats faced by America. Bush A.G.John Ashcroft was going to announce a war on pornography on the 12th, and on Sept. 10th Pres. Bush’s taskforce on terrorism headed by Dick Cheney met for the first time. All this despite being given dire warnings by the Clinton administration and a working plan which included arming drone aircraft with missiles.
In addition, Bush repeatedly admonished Richard Clark(Clinton’s terrorism czar)for constantly reminding him about the threat of a group called Al Qaeda and a man cslled Osama Bin Laden. Bush eventually moved Clark to the other side of then out of the White House. And this woman Condoeizza, told all Americans we could not wait for proof in the form of a “mushroom cloud.” Eventually duping 71% of gullible Americans into believing that Iraq had something to do with 9-11. We all know better now but this woman still defends Bushs lie.

Jaurez said:
ROFL! Yea, I wouldn’t admit to being that loser, either. ;)

Prove I know him.

Skippy said:
You accused me of being racist. “The biggest racist on this site” Go ahead and prove it.

Not unless you’re “ProObamaAgenda” I didn’t. Are you him too?

Skippy said:
Counting 1 through 10.

Should be easy for you, Jeffy , as you service your favorite horse 10 times a day.

So, you’re fessing up to being proobamabot? Good for you. Progress.

ImNotBlue said:
Not unless you’re “ProObamaAgenda” I didn’t. Are you him too?

Ah, so you have to eat you shit or the shit others spew for your side..

Can you show the same outrage to those on you side, the morons from the Koldys Klown Klub?

TfT said:
LOD is a loony liberal,

LOD is a silly socialist, not a mere loony liberal.

ImNotBlue said:
Not unless you’re “ProObamaAgenda” I didn’t. Are you him too?

Yes, he is.

Skippy said:
The same ol’ ol’ BS.

Bill Clinton and the Dem

I’m just linking facts that shows everyone believed Saddam Hussein was a threat before the war

Skippy said:
Ah, so you have to eat you shit or the shit others spew for your side.. Can you show the same outrage to those on you side, the morons from the Koldys Klown Klub?

What?! Look… it’s not my fault you hit “quote” on my original response, and thought that a comment to POA was to you. Go back if you doubt me… it’s right there.

Other than that, I have no idea what you’re trying to say.

Jaurez said:
So, you’re fessing up to being proobamabot? Good for you. Progress.

Yes, Jeffy.

I am ProObamaAgenda.

You should complain directly to Dan and ask him to bend over and make Mediaite a wingnut heaven like the Koldys Klown Klub or the Fox Hate Nation.

Oh, wait.

Almost forgot. You should provide Dan Abrams conclusive evidence of your claims.

Karl Spensen said:
HahahAhahahaHAHA “community organizer”!!!!!!!111 What a JOKE!!!!!!11 Just like TEACHERS, community organizers are EVIL DRAINS ON OUR SOCIETY who CANNOT BE TRUSTED!!!!!!!!!1111

Oh Karl, I must respectfully disagree. In case you don’t read newspapers, community organizer’s have mythical divine powers. How else can you explain the forthcoming day when Obama will make the seas recede and the planet magically heal? We are the ones we have been waiting for.

Pablo said:
Which is why you won’t find intellectual honesty or ideological consistency on the left. Hate they’ve got in spades, though. Just on this page we’ve got this grafx thing, POA and Skippy each blowing a gasket. They just HATE. It’s all they’ve got.

You have cut to the heart of the matter, my friend.” Intellectual honesty” and “ideological consistency” are not in evidence on the Left.

Personally, I’d still like to know what documents Sandy Berger stole from the National Archives. They must have been important for him to have run the risk of removing them and putting himself in jeopardy. I bet there’s still a copy of them somewhere in a secure location, an insurance policy for Berger’s continued good health.

Do you want Obama to have Condi shot too, Tedderman?

If LD had a more intelligent interviewing style, this could have been so much better. I think it’s unfortunate that each question he asked, was so loaded. I am not a fan of the Bush admin.’s follies, however, Rice is a very smart and courageous woman…but man do I disagree with most of the choices she made.

Looking back however, I truly believe she had faith in what she was doing…Unfortunately like most politicians she was unable to really concede any faults.

It’s too bad LD didn’t rephrase a few of those blistering accusations, it really set the interview off on a bad note as well as stop the flow of useful material.

mNotBlue says:

skippylongstocking has already responded to at least 2 posts that were clearly directed at proobamabot. Same loser. He’s also claimed to be black, a soldier, a woman, a wife of a soldier and on and on.

Bania said:
THATS “S GOLD kArL !!!!!!!!2222 GOLD !!!!!222

No Bania, you’re GOLD!!

ImNotBlue said:
What?! Look… it’s not my fault you hit “quote” on my original response, and thought that a comment to POA was to you. Go back if you doubt me… it’s right there.

Other than that, I have no idea what you’re trying to say.

No, you dumbshit.

I am telling you because you damn well know who Jeff Merrill is.

So before you start bitchin about on-line monikers, you should ask those on your side. Jeff Merril, aka Olby Sucks and the hermaphrodite, aka “IAMRIGHT” on the Koldys Klown Klub.

Simple enough for you?

Brian K. Withers said:
I’m just linking facts that shows everyone believed Saddam Hussein was a threat before the war

Longstocking doesn’t do facts.

Jaurez said:
mNotBlue says:

skippylongstocking has already responded to at least 2 posts that were clearly directed at proobamabot. Same loser. He’s also claimed to be black, a soldier, a woman, a wife of a soldier and on and on.

Keep infecting him, Jeffy.

In a couple of posts he will be talking Robert Stephenson.

After watching this, I can honestly say O’Donnell is human scum. I’ve watched him before and thought he may just be putting on a show, but no, this is his true personality. A disgrace.

I wonder if Libs or Feminists will call him racist and sexist for constantly interrupting and talking down to a black woman? How disrespectful of Crazy ole Larry

Skippybot said:
No, you dumbshit.

I am telling you because you damn well know who Jeff Merrill is.

So before you start bitchin about on-line monikers, you should ask those on your side. Jeff Merril, aka Olby Sucks and the hermaphrodite, aka “IAMRIGHT” on the Koldys Klown Klub.

Simple enough for you?

Look over there!

Skippy said:
Keep infecting him, Jeffy.

In a couple of posts he will be talking Robert Stephenson.

No one wants to talk about you, dummie. The topic is crazy larry getting his ass handed to him by Condi Rice.

Jaurez said:
Look over there!

Thanks. But no. Thanks Jeffy.

You bringing the horse next to your mouth… gawd…

You are some sick, sick, sick,republican.

Always give up on page 6, cause the idiots take over.

seek said:
Let me get this right – you guys are fighting over who’s who?
You’re kidding right?

I’ve always been really impressed with Dr. Rice. A brilliant mind and that racist Bush… oh sorry – Bush was about as far from racist as possible.

Lawrence didn’t even listen to her answers – his mind was trying to form his next question. She made him look exactly what he is a freak stupid blowhard. She told him so in her very measured way. Thanks Condi – Lawrence went straight home and cried that he was so misunderstood.

An excellent point- “didn’t even listen to her answers,” I am sick and tired of the blowhards in the media never listening and responding to the answers they are given. They strike me as ill-informed and LAZY to the max. Frankly, I respect any interviewee, who finds himself/herself in the position of having their answers ignored by the media, who will challenge them and ask, “Do you want an answer to your question or do you just want to do a monologue of your ideology.”

Tedderman says:
May 5, 2011 at 11:18 pm Tedderman(Quote)
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Condolizza Rice was to have given a speech on Sept. 12, 2001, supporting the proliferation of the “Star Wars missle defence program,” believing threats from I.C.B.M. capable nations were the most serious threats faced by America. Bush A.G.John Ashcroft was going to announce a war on pornography on the 12th, and on Sept. 10th Pres. Bush’s taskforce on terrorism headed by Dick Cheney met for the first time. All this despite being given dire warnings by the Clinton administration and a working plan which included arming drone aircraft with missiles.
In addition, Bush repeatedly admonished Richard Clark(Clinton’s terrorism czar)for constantly reminding him about the threat of a group called Al Qaeda and a man cslled Osama Bin Laden. Bush eventually moved Clark to the other side of then out of the White House. And this woman Condoeizza, told all Americans we could not wait for proof in the form of a “mushroom cloud.” Eventually duping 71% of gullible Americans into believing that Iraq had something to do with 9-11. We all know better now but this woman still defends Bushs lie.

Anyone else got some facts they want to post, or you all just want to keep throwing out your bullshit?

haven’t seen any “facts” from you yet, but I do realize that you don’t read, listen or otherwise engage in an adult conversation so I’ll let you continue making a fool of yourself.

You go boy.

Someone really needs to tell Larry to stop looking from under his eyebrows like a Stanley Kubrick villain.

Im a lefty who doesnt hate condi rice or much like lawrence odonnell. These interviews actually confuse me. Does Odonnell think Condi is just gonna role over and say yep lawrence we were idiots you are correct you are right. I dont think ive ever seen a politician from the left or the right every admit they were totally wrong on something. I mean Nixon really never admitted he did anything wrong. The only one that i can think of is that documentary about Robert Macnamara( secretary of defense during vietnam) and he kinda admitted that they had screwed things up. Other than that these guys from both parties have two ways of defending themselves. They rationlize or blame the other party thats it:)

Tedderman said:
Tedderman says:May 5, 2011 at 11:18 pm Tedderman(Quote)0 2Condolizza Rice was to have given a speech on Sept. 12, 2001, supporting the proliferation of the “Star Wars missle defence program,” believing threats from I.C.B.M. capable nations were the most serious threats faced by America. Bush A.G.John Ashcroft was going to announce a war on pornography on the 12th, and on Sept. 10th Pres. Bush’s taskforce on terrorism headed by Dick Cheney met for the first time. All this despite being given dire warnings by the Clinton administration and a working plan which included arming drone aircraft with missiles.In addition, Bush repeatedly admonished Richard Clark(Clinton’s terrorism czar)for constantly reminding him about the threat of a group called Al Qaeda and a man cslled Osama Bin Laden. Bush eventually moved Clark to the other side of then out of the White House. And this woman Condoeizza, told all Americans we could not wait for proof in the form of a “mushroom cloud.” Eventually duping 71% of gullible Americans into believing that Iraq had something to do with 9-11. We all know better now but this woman still defends Bushs lie. Anyone else got some facts they want to post, or you all just want to keep throwing out your bullshit?

Thanks – it is so refreshing when posters actually explain the history of this affair. It is absolutely stunning how shallow most peoples understanding of what really happened – and then Bush only made things worse by his continuous and absurd fetish on Saddam – all because of his Daddy issues

I cannot believe LOD just played that interview. Rice took him to the cleaners.

seek says:
May 5, 2011 at 11:54 pm seek(Quote)
3 1
haven’t seen any “facts” from you yet, but I do realize that you don’t read, listen or otherwise engage in an adult conversation so I’ll let you continue making a fool of yourself.

You go boy

Look “Suck,” I already told you on the Koch thread what you can go and do, so git to it boy! And since you wouldn’t know a fact if it bit your fat ass, you’re the one fooling yourself.

Tedderman said:
seek says:
May 5, 2011 at 11:54 pm seek(Quote)
3 1
haven’t seen any “facts” from you yet, but I do realize that you don’t read, listen or otherwise engage in an adult conversation so I’ll let you continue making a fool of yourself.

You go boy

Look “Suck,” I already told you on the Koch thread what you can go and do, so git to it boy! And since you wouldn’t know a fact if it bit your fat ass, you’re the one fooling yourself.

you lose…

I watched this live. Rice was amazing. O’Donnell looked petty. The end.

Thank you, dbeall, I appreciate it when someone is capable of reasonableness, though I can get a bit overheated attempting to reason with those whose IQ are only two digits and have a decimal point in between.

Tedderman said:
Anyone else got some facts they want to post, or you all just want to keep throwing out your bullshit?

Fact: Clinton had a clean shot at Osama and didn’t take it. You could even say Bush inherited “osama” from Clinton. Of course he understood the threat… because he failed to neutralize it.

No one could have known that the Twin Towers would actually melt into the ground – not even the terrorists. The impact was greater than even they imagined. Did intel fall through the cracks? absolutely. Hind sight is always interesting, especially when you can nuance every little detail in relation to a tragic event.

I wonder if 8 months into his presidency, if Obama would have been any better – having absolutely no foreign policy experience, a political career built on less that two years as a Senator, – I believe next week will be his very first State visit to a european country since taking office. It took running for President to even get him over to the ME. He had never stepped foot in Mexico until after becoming Pres. and continues to dramatically underestimate the threat at our borders.
8 months ago, Obama was first alerted to the whereabouts of Osama- lucky for him Bush had laid all the groundwork and the military was prepared to deal with the situation. Can you really say the same for the intelligence that Clinton left for Bush, other than dire warnings?

Why don’t you bring up all the terror attacks averted because of the changes made in technology, security and international intel sharing? Or the fact that Obama can’t even bring himself to call a terrorist, a terrorist because of syntax sensitivity issues, but rather a man-made disaster like the one at Ft. Hood, or the Times Square bomber.

I couldn’t believe Condi tried to compare our actions in Lybia with the invasion of Iraq. Our intervention in Lybia was to prevent a slaughter that was imminent. Sadam’s actions against his own people in Iraq happened in the late 80′s. If someone was going to help them, it would have had to be Reagan, and he couldn’t be bothered. If Sadam’s gassing his people was a reason for W attacking Sadam, he was 15 years late.

I love it how she calls out the hypocrisy of those supporting the humanitarian intervention in Libya and those who opposed the “inhumanitarian” intervention in Iraq.

Tedderman said:
Thank you, dbeall, I appreciate it when someone is capable of reasonableness, though I can get a bit overheated attempting to reason with those whose IQ are only two digits and have a decimal point in between.

unlike yourself.

btw another fact you got wrong – I’m no boy, nor am I fat. Projecting again?

clif.c said:
I couldn’t believe Condi tried to compare our actions in Lybia with the invasion of Iraq. Our intervention in Lybia was to prevent a slaughter that was imminent. Sadam’s actions against his own people in Iraq happened in the late 80’s. If someone was going to help them, it would have had to be Reagan, and he couldn’t be bothered. If Sadam’s gassing his people was a reason for W attacking Sadam, he was 15 years late.

Right, so in your opinion it’s better to intervene in a country when someone MIGHT kill 40,000 as opposed to someone who already has killed 40,000 people. Enlightening. Wait, I got it, an 8 year timespan makes things ok.

clif.c said:
I couldn’t believe Condi tried to compare our actions in Lybia with the invasion of Iraq. Our intervention in Lybia was to prevent a slaughter that was imminent. Sadam’s actions against his own people in Iraq happened in the late 80’s. If someone was going to help them, it would have had to be Reagan, and he couldn’t be bothered. If Sadam’s gassing his people was a reason for W attacking Sadam, he was 15 years late.

A man who has once killed 40,000 people (Saddam) had the capacity to kill again (especially if you’re incorrect intel said it might be possible). Bush and Rice believed this with Saddam, just as Obama or Clintion believe Gadhafi has the same capacity.

mlb said:
I believe next week will be his very first State visit to a european country since taking office.

I believe you’re a CLOWN that doesn’t know what you’re talking about. You’re whole post was garbage you obviously made up in you’re mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_trips_made_by_the_President_of_the_United_States#President_Barack_Obama

SANAA, Yemen — The U.S. military used a drone to strike Thursday at an al-Qaeda target in Yemen, the first such U.S. attack using unmanned aircraft in that country since 2002, according to U.S. and Yemeni officials.

When did yemen attack us?

clif.c said:
I couldn’t believe Condi tried to compare our actions in Lybia with the invasion of Iraq. Our intervention in Lybia was to prevent a slaughter that was imminent. Sadam’s actions against his own people in Iraq happened in the late 80’s. If someone was going to help them, it would have had to be Reagan, and he couldn’t be bothered. If Sadam’s gassing his people was a reason for W attacking Sadam, he was 15 years late.

If our intervention in Lybia was to prevent a slaughter, why is the slaughter still happening?

I believe the # of deaths attributed to Sadam was 400,000 not 40,000, in fact the NYTimes put it at 1,000,000 of his own people, never mind

clif.c said:
I couldn’t believe Condi tried to compare our actions in Lybia with the invasion of Iraq. Our intervention in Lybia was to prevent a slaughter that was imminent. Sadam’s actions against his own people in Iraq happened in the late 80’s. If someone was going to help them, it would have had to be Reagan, and he couldn’t be bothered. If Sadam’s gassing his people was a reason for W attacking Sadam, he was 15 years late.

If we’re so darn high and mighty about “preventing slaughter”, why haven’t we done anything in numerous other countries….. INCLUDING MEXICO where 35,000 have been slaughtered by drug cartels, dwarfing the amount in Libya, Syria and Yemen (who we attacked with a drone today)?

You lied your way into war darling. Period.

thank you, lawrence, for that beautiful takedown of bush’s greatest apologist

man, she looked bad

anyone fluent in logic could read right through her lies, contradictions, etc

condoleeza, your next life will be full of immense suffering

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Jaurez said:
SANAA, Yemen — The U.S. military used a drone to strike Thursday at an al-Qaeda target in Yemen, the first such U.S. attack using unmanned aircraft in that country since 2002, according to U.S. and Yemeni officials. When did yemen attack us?

Its nice to see a few doves appearing on the hard right. Watch out, your brethren will soon start calling you names like RINO, CINO, liberal, pussy, and they might even revoke your NRA membership.

seek said:
If our intervention in Lybia was to prevent a slaughter, why is the slaughter still happening? I believe the # of deaths attributed to Sadam was 400,000 not 40,000, in fact the NYTimes put it at 1,000,000 of his own people, never mind

Well pilgrim, if you listen to Michele Bachman, NATO killed 40,000 people in one day. Thems some mighty fine facts y’all got there. How many Iraqi civilian deaths were a result of Bush’s “Iraqi Invasion for the Hell of It”?

Dr. Condoleezza Rice could not have been more eloquent; she made Lawrence O’Donnell look like a Journalism intern.

“Tedderman says: May 5, 2011 at 11:47 pm (Quote)We all know better now but this woman still defends Bushs lie. Anyone else got some facts they want to post, or you all just want to keep throwing out your bullshit? ”

Your boy Slick is the only reason Bin Laden and 911 ever occurred in the first place buddy, Here’s some facts to choke on you leftists will die refuting.

“Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president
and his advisors didn’t respond.” “By MANSOOR IJAZ President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year. I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.

From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. “Sandy” Berger and Sudan’s president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt’s Islamic Jihad, Iran’s Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center” …..cont.. just Google the headline for an half hour of reading on that subject alone.

Enough said but I’ll also add this:

Everything president Bush did was cleaning up messes caused by decades of policies by administrations on both sides including his own father but mostly his direct predecessor who was directly responsible for letting 911 be planned for execution on the next president’s watch as happened to him in 93, only the second time with deaths being 1000 times worse.

The international coalition for the Iraq War comprised of more than 31 sovereign nations, while that of Obama’s war in Libya was made up of only 16 nations.

Saddam is the only leader till date that ever used Chemical weapons even on his people; estimated 400,000 lives were lost as a result, and the tendency of doing something worse was more than that of Libya’s leader who is perceived as a threat to his people. Invading Libya on Humanitarian grounds was a very weak argument, and millions of lives lost in other parts of the world due to violence refutes that argument. The US, UN, NATO has not deemed it necessary to intervene in other regions that are in far worse situation than Libya which has oil.

The world is better off now in 2011 not having to deal with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Saddam Hussein at the same time. I am looking forward to the day Iran officially announces it has joined the league of Nuclear armed nations just as Pakistan did in 1998, and trigger a nuclear arms race, then we shall see what a volatile region the Middle East really is.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Condoleezza Rice, like her former boss G.W. Bush lis a lying hypocrite. She repeated lied during the interview. When Bush ordered the Iraqi killings Hussein’s mass murders of Iraqi citizens were long over. Those murder had occurred nearly a decade before when Bush’s father encouraged the Kurds to rebel then he let them be slaughtered. As a result of the policies put in place by her administration over 100,000 Iraqi civilians were senselessly killed. There was a no fly zone over the areas that Hussein had attacked before in is country. Rice was trying to muddy the water with distortions and falsehoods which has been her pattern. Remember she is the one who said that the Clinton administration had not warned the incoming Bush administration about the fact that they considered Al Qaeda to be America’s greatest threat. Richard Clarke proved that lie. He had written a memo which was titled just that and sent it to Condi Rice. Bob Woodward verified the fact that Rice had lied in his book Bust At War. Rice is and always has been a sleazy, dishonest person.

Richard Clark and Bob Woodward ……….really ?

Chicago nick said:
Everything president Bush did was cleaning up messes caused by decades of policies by administrations on both sides including his own father but mostly his direct predecessor who was directly responsible for letting 911 be planned for execution on the next president’s watch as happened to him in 93, only the second time with deaths being 1000 times worse.

In reality, though, he didn’t clean up any messes and if anything he made things messier. I don’t wish to dump on Bush, a decent man, but I think the way he carried out the conservative ideology of his administration was full of errors of judgement and leadership that, ultimately, weakened America’s standing in the eyes of the world.

Its so funny watching Larry and Tommy, two extreme liberals, attempting to rewrite history and ignoring the 1990s, the conections identified between OBL and Hussein (that would be Sadam, not Barak), the indictment in NY of Osama and then following the lead of the NYTimes by simply ignoring that part of the indictment that dealt with Iraq. And then these individuals actually claim others are attemting to rewrite history.

So funny to watch; so sad at the same time, that the intentional ignorance would be spoken in order to propagandize rather then report factually.

Kllwhiteybabies said:
haha you’re a funny old man , you hate blacks but defend Dr. Rice..oh yeah she’s a nuggar you can “deal” with huh?

Or maybe your conspiracy theory is just that…Killa.

The way she talks in this interview comes off like the Bush Administration Actually believed that Saddam Hussein was a bigger threat to the US than Bin Laden.

Larry O will be out by Xmas…
He had zero interest in what Candi was saying…
He should not be interviewing anybody…
Comcast will be kicking him to the curb…

jooce81 said:
The way she talks in this interview comes off like the Bush Administration Actually believed that Saddam Hussein was a bigger threat to the US than Bin Laden.

Quite possibly because he was….

She is still pushing the same bull shit lies that the Bush adminstration pushed years ago that didn’t work then and doesn’t work now. Too bad our current President wants to “lean forward” like MSNBC and not prosecute the criminals in the Bush adminstration.

She should be ashamed of herself, this is the same woman that said under oath “we had no idea OBL was planning anything like this”, even thought the August 6th memo said as much and she got caught lying. Nothing was done of course, these criminals will never pay for their crimes.

A lot of people including historians say that Bush was one of the worst Presidents of all time, that is probably true. But what is funny I have heard just as many historians say that Rice was one of the worst Secretary Of State’s of all time. Larry Wilkerson didn’t have a lot of good things to say about her. She was one of the Bush “yes men” and actually had the nerve to tell a student at Stanford on video, that “if the President does it, it is legal”. She was in over her head and didn’t really know what was going on.

Oh Dear Lord – here we go again, making shit up about the PDB. Honestly Edith, get your facts from some place other than MSNBC. You really do look foolish when you claim 9/11 trutherism.

By any/all liberal standards, Edith is a racist.

Edith Massey said:
She is still pushing the same bull shit lies that the Bush adminstration pushed years ago that didn’t work then and doesn’t work now. Too bad our current President wants to “lean forward” like MSNBC and not prosecute the criminals in the Bush adminstration.

She should be ashamed of herself, this is the same woman that said under oath “we had no idea OBL was planning anything like this”, even thought the August 6th memo said as much and she got caught lying. Nothing was done of course, these criminals will never pay for their crimes.

I just thought liberal conspiracy theory propaganda dies hard….apparently it doesn’t die at all………BOO!

Barack Must Go said:
jooce81 said:
The way she talks in this interview comes off like the Bush Administration Actually believed that Saddam Hussein was a bigger threat to the US than Bin Laden

He sure as hell was a bigger threat than Ghadafy is today. How in the world can the left be pointing their silly little fingers at Bush and Iraq in light of what Obama’s doing in Libya today? Unbelievable.

werRu said:
In reality, though, he didn’t clean up any messes and if anything he made things messier. I don’t wish to dump on Bush, a decent man, but I think the way he carried out the conservative ideology of his administration was full of errors of judgement and leadership that, ultimately, weakened America’s standing in the eyes of the world.

You might think that – I think you’re wrong.
Bush was much respected and liked by leaders around the world.

Edith Massey said:
Too bad our current President wants to “lean forward” like MSNBC and not prosecute the criminals in the Bush adminstration.

Why is Holder investigating our interrogators?

Odonel was berating Rice solely because of her race. Everyone can logically conclude this.

Edith Massey said:
A lot of people including historians say that Bush was one of the worst Presidents of all time, that is probably true. But what is funny I have heard just as many historians say that Rice was one of the worst Secretary Of State’s of all time. Larry Wilkerson didn’t have a lot of good things to say about her. She was one of the Bush “yes men” and actually had the nerve to tell a student at Stanford on video, that “if the President does it, it is legal”. She was in over her head and didn’t really know what was going on.

The best historians don’t judge a president’s term for many years. Remember, Truman was not well liked when he left office. Time has changed all of that. Many more years need to pass before Bush’s term is put into perspective.

grafxmail7 said:
I believe you’re a CLOWN that doesn’t know what you’re talking about. You’re whole post was garbage you obviously made up in you’re mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_trips_made_by_the_President_of_the_United_States#President_Barack_Obama

Oh, look who’s ignorant!

darladoon said:
thank you, lawrence, for that beautiful takedown of bush’s greatest apologist man, she looked bad anyone fluent in logic could read right through her lies, contradictions, etc condoleeza, your next life will be full of immense suffering

Your first life seems to involve a lot of suffering darla. Go read a book and get off the left wing loony blog sites. It’s stunting your growth.

A brilliant woman made a blithering fool out of “Lawrence of Hollywood” and you’re still spinning spider webs?

Loved him adjusting his face – because he was afraid any second she’d give him a nose bleed? lol

Lawrence O’Donnell is a self admitted Socialist, enough said….

This is what I have to say about Obamo’s ‘invincibility’ in 2012: Unemployment UP to 9%.

That Obama Bin Laden parade scheduled for tomorrow? It’s been canceled.

Edith Massey said:
She was in over her head and didn’t really know what was going on.

You do realize this comment makes you a racist. LOL
Welcome Larry to Mediaite.

Penguin60 said:
You do realize this comment makes you a racist. LOLWelcome Larry to Mediaite.

It also classified her as stupid . Nobody, but nobody thinks Rice was “in over her head”. The woman is brilliant – Edith couldn’t just say she didn’t agree with her but attempted to make Rice seem incompetent. At that point Edith lost all of her credibility.

Get real. It was an epic smackdown by Rice. Tommy knows it. Just lost a little more credibility by not admitting it.

DCD-in-Indiana said:
He sure as hell was a bigger threat than Ghadafy is today. How in the world can the left be pointing their silly little fingers at Bush and Iraq in light of what Obama’s doing in Libya today? Unbelievable.

Because the Obam regime, Stewart, Colbert and Maher tell them to.

It is truly a sad state of affairs within the ranks of the degenerate democrat party of today.

seek said:
It also classified her as stupid . Nobody, but nobody thinks Rice was “in over her head”. The woman is brilliant – Edith couldn’t just say she didn’t agree with her but attempted to make Rice seem incompetent. At that point Edith lost all of her credibility.

It’s almost as if we are revisiting Obama’s head on the body of a chimp I would say.

By liberal democrat standards, this interview was racist on its’ face. O’Donnell is a racist pig…hates blacks and should apologize to Rice.

In other news…..Osama is dead and thanks to the Bush administration policies which the jackass in the WH implemented, is STILL DEAD!

I have to say, Ms. Rice is intelligent. However, she seems hopelessly locked in a mindset that passed as the Berlin Wall fell. Given her studies and her work, I suppose that is not too surprising, but I would have thought she might have used those as a framework to build time relevant models. And, of course, she still can’t convince herself that the US Invasion and Occupation of Iraq served any useful purpose. I would have thought after all of these years she might have come up with some slick talking points that at least made it sound as if she believed otherwise.

Countries Supporting Ops in Iraq
Country
In Iraq In Theater Total Future
1 United Kingdom ~7,200 1,300 ~8,500
2 South Korea ~2,300 ~2,300 ~1,100 (?)
3 Australia ~850 ~541 ~1,400
4 Poland 900 900
5 Romania 865 865
6 Denmark 460 ~35 (NATO and UNAMI) ~500
7 El Salvador 380 380
8 Georgia 300 550 (UNAMI) 850 ~2,400 (?)
9 Azerbaijan 150 150
10 Bulgaria ~150 ~150
11 Latvia 136 136
12 Albania 120 120
13 Czech Republic 100 100
14 Mongolia 100 100
15 Lithuania ~50 ~50
16 Armenia 46 46
17 Bosnia & Herzegovina 37 37
18 Estonia 34 34
19 Macedonia 33 33
20 Kazakhstan 29 29
21 Moldova* 12 12
TOTAL ~14,200 ~17,000
UNAMI Fiji ** 150 150
Hungary *** 0 Withdrew troops: Mar. 2005
Nicaragua 0 Withdrew troops: Feb. 2004
Spain 0 Withdrew troops: Late-Apr. 2004
Dominican Republic 0 Withdrew troops: Early-May. 2004
Honduras 0 Withdrew troops: Late-May. 2004
Philippines 0 Withdrew troops: mid-Jul. 2004
Thailand 0 Withdrew troops: Late-Aug. 2004
New Zealand 0 Withdrew troops: Late-Sep. 2004
Tonga 0 Withdrew troops: mid-Dec. 2004
Portugal 0 Withdrew troops: mid-Feb. 2005
Singapore**** 0 Withdrew troops: Mar. 2005
Norway 0 Withdrew troops: Oct. 2005
Ukraine 0 Withdrew troops: Dec. 2005
The Netherlands 0 Withdrew troops: Mar. 2005
Japan 0 Withdrew troops: Jul. 2006
Italy 0 Withdrawal troops: End of Nov. 2006
Slovakia 0 Withdrew troops: End of January 2007

TOTAL NUMBER OF COALITION TROOPS IN THEATER WAS LESS THAN 2000 TOTAL TROOPS. O’DONNELL WAS RIGHT THE COALITION OF THE WILLING WERE ABOUT 40 COUNTRIES MOST ALL OF WHOM NEVER COMMITTED TROOPS TO THEATER. RICE IS A LIAR AND A JOKE.

seek said:
It also classified her as stupid . Nobody, but nobody thinks Rice was “in over her head”. The woman is brilliant – Edith couldn’t just say she didn’t agree with her but attempted to make Rice seem incompetent. At that point Edith lost all of her credibility.

August 22, 2002
TO: Paul Wolfowitz [Deputy Secretary of Defense]
FROM: Donald Rumsfeld
SUBJECT:

Call Condi Rice. She said to me that we have got to get the detainee mess sorted out, that nobody is able to get answers. I think she is getting this from the UK. Call her and find out what she is talking about. She always comes in with these cryptic messages as thought [sic] the Pentagon is messed up, and I don’t have any idea what she is talking about…

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/donald-rumsfeld-email-5292983#ixzz1LZx2GQw6

April 04, 2006
TO: Stephen J Hadley [National Security Advisor]
FROM: Donald Rumsfeld

I think we better get some talking points on what Condi thinks she meant when she said we have made “thousands of tactical errors.”

I keep getting asked the question, and I don’t know the answer. I don’t know what she had in mind.

Thanks.

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/donald-rumsfeld-email-5292983#ixzz1LZxIhHvM

Perle: Bush Failed by his Own People

Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Monday, Feb. 26, 2007

Richard Perle tells NewsMax that key members of the Bush administration have failed the president – and Perle names names.

In a wide-ranging interview, the former assistant Secretary of Defense under President Reagan and chairman of the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee from 2001 to 2003 under President Bush calls former Secretary of State Colin Powell a “disaster” and says current Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice “was in way over her head from the beginning.”

Perle: We just don’t have the best and the brightest. I think Colin Powell was a disaster. He never liked the president’s policies. He did almost nothing to get them implemented. Condi [former head of the National Security Council and now Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice] was in way over her head from the beginning, and the president gave much too much weight to her views. The administration was full of people even in the White House at the National Security Council who were hostile to the president’s policies.

Edith Massey said:
Perle: Bush Failed by his Own People

Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Monday, Feb. 26, 2007

Richard Perle tells NewsMax that key members of the Bush administration have failed the president – and Perle names names.

In a wide-ranging interview, the former assistant Secretary of Defense under President Reagan and chairman of the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee from 2001 to 2003 under President Bush calls former Secretary of State Colin Powell a “disaster” and says current Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice “was in way over her head from the beginning.”

Perle: We just don’t have the best and the brightest. I think Colin Powell was a disaster. He never liked the president’s policies. He did almost nothing to get them implemented. Condi [former head of the National Security Council and now Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice] was in way over her head from the beginning, and the president gave much too much weight to her views. The administration was full of people even in the White House at the National Security Council who were hostile to the president’s policies.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/2/25/210805.shtml

seek said:
It also classified her as stupid . Nobody, but nobody thinks Rice was “in over her head”. The woman is brilliant – Edith couldn’t just say she didn’t agree with her but attempted to make Rice seem incompetent. At that point Edith lost all of her credibility.

Wilkerson “revealed the inner struggles of the Bush administration in a speech before the New America Foundation on Oct. 19. A ‘Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal’ ran U.S. foreign policy for a president ‘not versed in international relations and not too much interested.’ Wilkerson defined the Bush doctrine as ‘cowboyism.’ Condoleezza Rice as national security advisor was ‘extremely weak’ and more interested in ‘her intimacy with the president’ than in acting as an honest broker. Cleaning up after Bush’s tarnishing of America’s image in the world was an impossible task. ‘It’s hard to sell shit,’ said Wilkerson.” –Sidney Blumenthal, Salon, October 27, 2005.

Rice responded that anyone who thinks Hussein would have been moved an inch by peaceful protests like the ones in Egypt is sadly mistaken.

Well, liberals are sad and usually mistaken.

mlb said:
Fact: Clinton had a clean shot at Osama and didn’t take it.

Fact: That is not a fact and has long been discredited: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_bill_clinton_pass_up_a_chance_1.html

a question for the left here……waterboarding and torture a unarmed terrorist is bad….shooting a unarmed terrorist is the head good………not trying to be mean, i just dont understand the train of thought, please explain

Edith Massey said:
Countries Supporting Ops in Iraq
Country
In Iraq In Theater Total Future
1 United Kingdom ~7,200 1,300 ~8,500
2 South Korea ~2,300 ~2,300 ~1,100 (?)
3 Australia ~850 ~541 ~1,400
4 Poland 900 900
5 Romania 865 865
6 Denmark 460 ~35 (NATO and UNAMI) ~500
7 El Salvador 380 380
8 Georgia 300 550 (UNAMI) 850 ~2,400 (?)
9 Azerbaijan 150 150
10 Bulgaria ~150 ~150
11 Latvia 136 136
12 Albania 120 120
13 Czech Republic 100 100
14 Mongolia 100 100
15 Lithuania ~50 ~50
16 Armenia 46 46
17 Bosnia & Herzegovina 37 37
18 Estonia 34 34
19 Macedonia 33 33
20 Kazakhstan 29 29
21 Moldova* 12 12
TOTAL ~14,200 ~17,000
UNAMI Fiji ** 150 150
Hungary *** 0 Withdrew troops: Mar. 2005
Nicaragua 0 Withdrew troops: Feb. 2004
Spain 0 Withdrew troops: Late-Apr. 2004
Dominican Republic 0 Withdrew troops: Early-May. 2004
Honduras 0 Withdrew troops: Late-May. 2004
Philippines 0 Withdrew troops: mid-Jul. 2004
Thailand 0 Withdrew troops: Late-Aug. 2004
New Zealand 0 Withdrew troops: Late-Sep. 2004
Tonga 0 Withdrew troops: mid-Dec. 2004
Portugal 0 Withdrew troops: mid-Feb. 2005
Singapore**** 0 Withdrew troops: Mar. 2005
Norway 0 Withdrew troops: Oct. 2005
Ukraine 0 Withdrew troops: Dec. 2005
The Netherlands 0 Withdrew troops: Mar. 2005
Japan 0 Withdrew troops: Jul. 2006
Italy 0 Withdrawal troops: End of Nov. 2006
Slovakia 0 Withdrew troops: End of January 2007

TOTAL NUMBER OF COALITION TROOPS IN THEATER WAS LESS THAN 2000 TOTAL TROOPS. O’DONNELL WAS RIGHT THE COALITION OF THE WILLING WERE ABOUT 40 COUNTRIES MOST ALL OF WHOM NEVER COMMITTED TROOPS TO THEATER. RICE IS A LIAR AND A JOKE.

Not dissimilar to the two broads from Maine siding with the dems and Obama claiming bi – patisan victory.

Not to mention 2,000 if that is even a correct number – 2 still equals 1,998 more, even with Tim Geithner were to do the math.

Here is Condi’s shining moment where she lies under oath and shows that she isn’t up to the job. The families of the 911 victims in the audience are pretty disgusted with her as well.

9/11 Commissioner Richard Ben-Veniste Questions Condoleezza Rice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0RJu7xqjNY

Edith Massey said:
RICE IS A LIAR AND A JOKE.

RACIST!

TheEagle said:

http://newsbusters.org/node/7871

Edith Massey said:
TOTAL NUMBER OF COALITION TROOPS IN THEATER WAS LESS THAN 2000 TOTAL

1 United Kingdom ~7,200 1,300 ~8,500
2 South Korea ~2,300 ~2,300 ~1,100 (?)

Edith Massey said:
Countries Supporting Ops in Iraq
Country
In Iraq In Theater Total Future
1 United Kingdom ~7,200 1,300 ~8,500
2 South Korea ~2,300 ~2,300 ~1,100 (?)
3 Australia ~850 ~541 ~1,400
4 Poland 900 900
5 Romania 865 865
6 Denmark 460 ~35 (NATO and UNAMI) ~500
7 El Salvador 380 380
8 Georgia 300 550 (UNAMI) 850 ~2,400 (?)
9 Azerbaijan 150 150
10 Bulgaria ~150 ~150
11 Latvia 136 136
12 Albania 120 120
13 Czech Republic 100 100
14 Mongolia 100 100
15 Lithuania ~50 ~50
16 Armenia 46 46
17 Bosnia & Herzegovina 37 37
18 Estonia 34 34
19 Macedonia 33 33
20 Kazakhstan 29 29
21 Moldova* 12 12
TOTAL ~14,200 ~17,000
UNAMI Fiji ** 150 150
Hungary *** 0 Withdrew troops: Mar. 2005
Nicaragua 0 Withdrew troops: Feb. 2004
Spain 0 Withdrew troops: Late-Apr. 2004
Dominican Republic 0 Withdrew troops: Early-May. 2004
Honduras 0 Withdrew troops: Late-May. 2004
Philippines 0 Withdrew troops: mid-Jul. 2004
Thailand 0 Withdrew troops: Late-Aug. 2004
New Zealand 0 Withdrew troops: Late-Sep. 2004
Tonga 0 Withdrew troops: mid-Dec. 2004
Portugal 0 Withdrew troops: mid-Feb. 2005
Singapore**** 0 Withdrew troops: Mar. 2005
Norway 0 Withdrew troops: Oct. 2005
Ukraine 0 Withdrew troops: Dec. 2005
The Netherlands 0 Withdrew troops: Mar. 2005
Japan 0 Withdrew troops: Jul. 2006
Italy 0 Withdrawal troops: End of Nov. 2006
Slovakia 0 Withdrew troops: End of January 2007

TOTAL NUMBER OF COALITION TROOPS IN THEATER WAS LESS THAN 2000 TOTAL TROOPS. O’DONNELL WAS RIGHT THE COALITION OF THE WILLING WERE ABOUT 40 COUNTRIES MOST ALL OF WHOM NEVER COMMITTED TROOPS TO THEATER. RICE IS A LIAR AND A JOKE.

And how many are participating in Barry’s Libyan war, son?

It is always nice to see a black woman bitch slap a pretentious lib like “O Donnell.

I seriously have to question O’Donnell’s sanity. What a pretentious know-nothing! The man seems to not understand anything .

Not much more you can say about Condoleezza Rice. She is graceful, artistic and a great intellect. Lawrence O’Donnell’s convoluted rant is typical.

Slap fight is a sexist term.Just kidding. But it is completely wrong. She was the heavy-weight (intellectually) knocking out the lightweight repeatedly. She simply is a brilliant mind who knows the details inside and out. He had no chance.

I will give you one point If you want to use the fighting analogy, he was trying to slap. Problem was, she was punching back. With facts, rather than ‘wishes’ and opinions. He sounded like a kid from the campus newspaper rather than a host of a national news channel…

Dear Edith:

You had me convinced until I saw the word “Salon” – then your post went in my circular file.
Keep trying though.

O’Donnal got his ass handed to him! Rice blew him away. This guy thinks Obama walks on water. Kinda like believing that Justin Beamer can sing. Obama was package and sold to us by these idiots. Now we have 9 precent unemployment, gas at 4.50. (in ca), 1 in 7 people on food stamps, need I go on. Yes he captured bin Landan. However how does that emprove your life. Obama’s timing has always been interesting, when his numbers start going down he pulls a rabbit out of his hat. The media and so call jounalist like O’Donnal have started their campaign to get Obama elected. Well if you like going from the frying pan to the fire put Obama in for another 4 years, that definitely should burn your ass. What am I saying, stick a fork in us we’re done!

seek said:
until I saw the word “Salon”

She also was desperate enough to post something from….wait for it….Newsmax. If a conservative attempted to use Newsmax they would be laughed at. She’s one strange bird, she is.

Chicago nick said:
“Tedderman says: May 5, 2011 at 11:47 pm (Quote)We all know better now but this woman still defends Bushs lie. Anyone else got some facts they want to post, or you all just want to keep throwing out your bullshit? ”

Your boy Slick is the only reason Bin Laden and 911 ever occurred in the first place buddy, Here’s some facts to choke on you leftists will die refuting.

“Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president
and his advisors didn’t respond.” “By MANSOOR IJAZ President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year. I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.

From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. “Sandy” Berger and Sudan’s president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt’s Islamic Jihad, Iran’s Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center” …..cont.. just Google the headline for an half hour of reading on that subject alone.

Enough said but I’ll also add this:

Everything president Bush did was cleaning up messes caused by decades of policies by administrations on both sides including his own father but mostly his direct predecessor who was directly responsible for letting 911 be planned for execution on the next president’s watch as happened to him in 93, only the second time with deaths being 1000 times worse.

Load of crap. Clinton was advised by his REPUBLICAN Sec. of Defense, Cohen, not to take out Bin Laden. (Cohen, incidentally, became a high-priced consultant later). Besides, TORA BORA. Enough said. Losers.

• Kllwhiteybabies says:
Barack Must Go said:
Richard Clark and Bob Woodward ……….really ?
haha you’re a funny old man , you hate blacks but defend Dr. Rice..oh yeah she’s a nuggar you can “deal” with huh?
*************
No one hates blacks, what we hate are ignoramus racist like yourself, who were told by Sharpton et al. that people who think Obama is the worse president ever, think that because they hate blacks.

That is purely your own insecure racist projection. Dr. Rice is brilliant and can easily handle an O’Donnell with one of her gentle stings, she didn’t even have to hammer him hard, his talking points were so over worked, a fifth grader could have corrected him easily.

Stop being such a racist, you do remember what they say about a pointing finger, there are three fingers pointing right back at you.

lane said:
Slap fight is a sexist term.Just kidding. But it is completely wrong. She was the heavy-weight (intellectually) knocking out the lightweight repeatedly. She simply is a brilliant mind who knows the details inside and out. He had no chance. I will give you one point If you want to use the fighting analogy, he was trying to slap. Problem was, she was punching back. With facts, rather than ‘wishes’ and opinions. He sounded like a kid from the campus newspaper rather than a host of a national news channel…

Larry deserved the dressing down he got. Rice wasn’t buying the nonsense that he was peddling. She is not a politician – she is an intellect who came forward to serve her Country and she did it well.

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
Clinton was advised by his REPUBLICAN Sec. of Defense, Cohen, not to take out Bin Laden.

Nice lie. Clinton was a coward!

From the 911 Commission Report:

Kandahar, May 1999

“It was in Kandahar that perhaps the last, and most likely the best, opportunity arose for targeting Bin Ladin with cruise missiles before 9/11. In May 1999, CIA assets in Afghanistan reported on Bin Ladin’s location in and around Kandahar over the course of five days and nights.The reporting was very detailed
and came from several sources. If this intelligence was not “actionable,” working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine how any intelligence on Bin Ladin in Afghanistan would meet the standard. Communications were good, and the cruise missiles were ready.“This was in our strike zone,” a senior military officer said. “It was a fat pitch, a home run.” He expected the missiles to fly.When the decision came back that they should stand down, not shoot, the officer said,“we all just slumped.” He told
us he knew of no one at the Pentagon or the CIA who thought it was a bad gamble. Bin Ladin “should have been a dead man” that night, he said.”

cjd ohio 1 said:
a question for the left here……waterboarding and torture a unarmed terrorist is bad….shooting a unarmed terrorist is the head good………not trying to be mean, i just dont understand the train of thought, please explain

Easy – democrats operate under the “we can do what we want, you not so much” motto

I’m still stuck on Holder – he thinks it’s just fine! Holder!!!! lol That fine speciman of a human, seems to have a drawer full of liberal laws and laws for all others.

seek said:
Larry deserved the dressing down he got. Rice wasn’t buying the nonsense that he was peddling. She is not a politician – she is an intellect who came forward to serve her Country and she did it well.

Agreed. Well stated!

lane said:
She was the heavy-weight (intellectually) knocking out the lightweight repeatedly.

It was like watching Will take down the defenseless Maher. Was that the last time he was on the show?

http://www.mediaite.com/online/george-will-quietly-shuts-down-bill-maher-on-this-weeks-fiery-roundtable/

Hey righties I keep seeing you guys bringing up Libya to slam Obama. Is this because you dont want Obama( and it really is a NATO opp guys) to be successful there and get rid of another of the worlds terroist, or that you are just mad at the hypocrisy of the left supporting an operation like this.

grafxmail7 said:
I believe you’re a CLOWN that doesn’t know what you’re talking about. You’re whole post was garbage you obviously made up in you’re mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_trips_made_by_the_President_of_the_United_States#President_Barack_Obama

Oh yeah I made up all those visits by Barack in my mind…. and Obama is a liar? he WASN’T made aware of the Usama’s whereabouts 8 months ago? I am clown for stating facts..is that all you’ve got? Someone posts facts and they become a ‘clown’ I am glad I don’t live in your make-believe version of the world.

Something crazy about this woman…..something raw…….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNqi-mNXoXA

Rice put that Irish prick in his place. Great job!

O’Donnell is one smug looking SOB. Why would anyone even talk to this a-hole?

insideguy said:
Hey righties I keep seeing you guys bringing up Libya to slam Obama. Is this because you dont want Obama( and it really is a NATO opp guys) to be successful there and get rid of another of the worlds terroist, or that you are just mad at the hypocrisy of the left supporting an operation like this.

Exactly, what is an “operation like this”? So you admit the hypocrisy of supporting a civil war in a country that has nothing to do with the US after Obama admitted that we can’t and shouldn’t be expect to ‘police’ the world?

What reason is being offered – to stop a massive slaughter of his people by Gaddaffi? Then why no support for the Iran revolution? Why aren’t we in Sudan? Why are we doing business with China? Why aren’t we in North Korea? Why did Obama support Pres. Zelaya in Argentina? Why do we continue to support Palestine when they are led by a terror organization Hamas?
Just curious – why should we “meddle in the internal affairs” as Obama put it, in one country and not another? Iran is on the fast-track to nuclear weapons, what’s the excuse again for the threat from Libya?

I wonder when Anderson Cooper, Larry O’Donnell and Shepard Smith are going to take Rachel Maddows advice and come out of the closet?

My vote goes to Larry as the biggest drama queen of the three!

insideguy said:
Hey righties I keep seeing you guys bringing up Libya to slam Obama. Is this because you dont want Obama( and it really is a NATO opp guys) to be successful there and get rid of another of the worlds terroist, or that you are just mad at the hypocrisy of the left supporting an operation like this.

It’s the latter, especially Obama’s very own personal hypocrisy. Then there’s the fact that we don’t seem to have a defined mission, and that Congress has been completely bypassed thus far. And there’s the fact that we’ve been lied into a war for oil.

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
Load of crap. Clinton was advised by his REPUBLICAN Sec. of Defense, Cohen, not to take out Bin Laden. (Cohen, incidentally, became a high-priced consultant later). Besides, TORA BORA. Enough said. Losers.

So are you saying Clinton had no balls… the buck stopped with his SEC. of Defense? Tora Bora – Usama was tipped off from Pakistan on the forces closing in, not to mention the NY TImes blabbing it on the front page. This is one of the reason we didn’t trust Pakistan and this latest operation remained secret. That’s was the lesson learned from Tora Bora, not to repeat the mistake that caused it fail, in this case keeping the whereabouts secret was imperative to the success of the mission.

Libya was just as much as joke as Iraq was. I love how they make it seem in both cases like we are there to protect people.

Assholes like Tingles, Fat Ed and O’Donnell like to get some young
First Term Congressmen (who are just happy as a clam} to get invited
on TV, then, interupt, berate and twist meanings of questions and answers
as fast as the young Congressman can stammer and stutter trying to get
a word in. They usually learn after the first time and either not come back
or come back very prepared to take on those Pricks verbally or Physically if need be
Condi Rice was having none of that Bullshit from the Gitgo, and let that
ugly little shit know it!
She dismantled his skinny little ass! lol

Condi, as usual, showed an exceptional amount of Class.

Larry the bully….not so fast!

insideguy said:
Hey righties I keep seeing you guys bringing up Libya to slam Obama. Is this because you dont want Obama( and it really is a NATO opp guys) to be successful there and get rid of another of the worlds terroist, or that you are just mad at the hypocrisy of the left supporting an operation like this.

No insideguy, we just bring it up because that one didn’t work out so well, and to defend against the constant barrage and criticism – it’s brought up.

Lets be perfectly honest, no side has done everything perfectly. I am giving them both credit for doing the best they could do at that moment – and being human mistakes occur. Nobody but nobody has cornered the market on perfection.

Hindsight 20/20 and nothing would get done.

So, politics consists of one side pointing out the foibles of the other side. That is basically all we can do – we don’t have the ability to change what has occurred.

A perfect example – the Bin Laden event. I’m sure if there was a “do-over” it would have been presented to the public in a different way – but there isn’t and sometimes in their effort to clear up the misconceptions, more misconceptions occur because people hear what they want to hear. Human nature.

I think that’s why I enjoy listening to Krauthammer so much – man never gets flustered or visibly angry – just presents the facts as he sees them and he’s done with it. We could all learn from that type of behavior. My blood comes to boiling too easy for that – but I sure admire the cool calm when I see it.

I’m surprised that Dr. Rice would have bothered speaking with this clown. Upon reflection, however, maybe she just enjoys administering an occasional smack-down to a lib.

This maybe the moment I realize this site is just flat out too conservative for anyone sane to post on… the first few pages (the only ones I cared to read) are littered with people trying to convince themselves Iraq was a fine decision and they’re all 2-1, 3-1 in up to down votes.

If you believe, in 2011, Iraq was a good decision to go into, despite no WMDs, despite limited to no connection from Saddam to Al Qaeda despite the tremendous loss of American soldiers and over 100k innocent Iraqi CIVILIAN lives lost, to the tremendous price tag it cost us, to the fact it diverted attention from where Al Qaeda actually was you are seriously just helpless, utterly, utterly helpless.

Yea mlb and seek I see your guys points this is a weird one for me. I think at times though we all forget that there is a world outside the united states. This whole Libya mess has huge implications in Europe. In that vein I think the french really wanted to jump in, along with alot of NATO. We do have an alliance with these people and if really bad things would have happened in Libya they would be directly affected. I do not buy your guys argument that just cause we do something in Libya we should be doing something in syria,iran ect. There really is a limit and all presidents have to pick and choose on when we get involved. And the whole oil thing? Sure oil has a ton to do with it im left of center but not naive:)

RhapsodyinBlue said:
you are seriously just helpless, utterly, utterly helpless.

Speaking from the right, I viewed it differently (without the benefit of hindsight). I saw it as fighting a war on 2 fronts, which as history has shown is a bad idea.

Rio said:
http://newsbusters.org/node/7871

So I post a link from a non-partisan website and you post one from a very partisan website and you think that refutes anything. That’s so cute!

insideguy said:
Yea mlb and seek I see your guys points this is a weird one for me. I think at times though we all forget that there is a world outside the united states. This whole Libya mess has huge implications in Europe. In that vein I think the french really wanted to jump in, along with alot of NATO. We do have an alliance with these people and if really bad things would have happened in Libya they would be directly affected. I do not buy your guys argument that just cause we do something in Libya we should be doing something in syria,iran ect. There really is a limit and all presidents have to pick and choose on when we get involved. And the whole oil thing? Sure oil has a ton to do with it im left of center but not naive:)

good post.

cjd ohio 1 said:
a question for the left here……waterboarding and torture a unarmed terrorist is bad….shooting a unarmed terrorist is the head good………not trying to be mean, i just dont understand the train of thought, please explain

Same reason the killing of Admiral Yamamoto was OK and waterboarding was considered a war crime during WWII.

Ms.Rice slapped him down, and she did it in her characteristic level-headed manner without demeaning him. Mr.O’Donnell, and the rest of Liberal news slugs could learn from this women. By their own degrading style of interviewing, they remove what little credibility they have.

Larry O made a fool of himself. Ms. Rice was class personified.

CA Conservative, excellent post. I often think the liberal side is really poorly represented by the primetime MSNBC lineup. As an independent, I simply don’t even bother with MSNBC Anymore. They’re annoying and rude.

Very few people can go head-to-head against Dr. Rice in any case, but I’m with you. The constant sneering and rudeness in the MSNBC interviews does hurt their own cause. Jon Stewart makes the same point. He wishes ‘his side’ was as polished and liekable as the Fox News lineup. I do think I’m not in their target audience, they are obviously only for the far-left crowd.

TheEagle said:
Same reason the killing of Admiral Yamamoto was OK and waterboarding was considered a war crime during WWII.

Waterboarding was a crime in WW II because the soldiers who were waterboarded fell under the protections of the Geneva Conventions. They wore uniforms, were members of a nation that were signatories to the convention et cetera. Had they, the soldiers waterboarded, been wearing civilian clothes they wouldn’t have been given those protections. And in fact, they could be summarily executed.

As I understand it, the three terrorists who were waterboarded were in violation of the Geneva Convention’s rules and are not protected under its provisions.

Republicans think Rice won the debate.
Democrats think O’Donnell won the debate.
There. I just saved everyone a lot of reading.

Ole Tommy is streching to find anything of substance that LOD did on this interview. Ms. Rice owned him and that what happened. LOD lacks the intellectual ability to go with Dr. Rice and it showed

TheEagle said:
Same reason the killing of Admiral Yamamoto

Well, Yamamoto did get shot in the head. Seems like the Japanese had there own technique of water torture.

http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~warcrime/Japan/Yokohama/Reviews/Yokohama_Review_Sawamura.htm

That’s their. Damn no edit.

Dr. Rice was brain washed by the George W. Bush administration. She never answered any question directly and attempted to show Bush as more than the piece of scum he really is. He stated clearly, after he couldn’t find Osama Bin Laden, that it didn’t make any difference that we missed him a Tora Bora.

She is just a republican token Black who can stick to a dishonest story like the rest of the Republicans on the Hill.

Too bad she and George W. weren’t able to tossed off the ship with Osama Bin Laden. What poetic justice for two lying beaches.

SteveMG said:
Waterboarding was a crime in WW II because the soldiers who were waterboarded fell under the protections of the Geneva Conventions. They wore uniforms, were members of a nation that were signatories to the convention et cetera. Had they, the soldiers waterboarded, been wearing civilian clothes they wouldn’t have been given those protections. And in fact, they could be summarily executed.

As I understand it, the three terrorists who were waterboarded were in violation of the Geneva Convention’s rules and are not protected under its provisions.

You understand it wrong. The U.S. is a signatory of the Geneva Conventions and is bound by law to follow its rules. Japan was not a party to the 1929 Geneva Conventions yet in WWII, the U.S. was still bound by them for the treatment of Japanese prisoners. Add to that the 8th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution forbids cruel and usual punishments.

There was no need for Lawrence O’Donnell to put her on the hot seat the way he did. He shouldn’t really have even brought up the Iraq war. Everyone knows how the Bush Administration botched everything up over there and she’s not going to admit it, so trying to embarrass her like that made him look like a bully. She was nice enough to come on and he might have problems getting other guests on.

TheEagle said:
You understand it wrong. The U.S. is a signatory of the Geneva Conventions and is bound by law to follow its rules. Japan was not a party to the 1929 Geneva Conventions yet in WWII, the U.S. was still bound by them for the treatment of Japanese prisoners. Add to that the 8th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution forbids cruel and usual punishments.

we also machined gun japanese survivors of sunken warships if they were in swimming distance of land, war crime trials are conducted by the winners in war

Condi is an accomplished and personable defender of and advocate for the failures of the Bush administration.

But her insistence that Saddam posed a real and present danger to the United States (at the beginning of the Iraq war) is just plain ridiculous on its face.

I must say I don’t envy her position. Who among us has not at some point in their lives had to to defend a bad decision that they made. Unfortunately in her case the consequences were so unbelievably enormous and sad for all those who either died or were seriously injured.

murphy0071 said:
She is just a republican token Black

BWAAAAAAA, that’s perfect, keep posting racist POS. You show the true lemming colors. What a scumbag racist pig.

murphy0071 said:
Too bad she and George W. weren’t able to tossed off the ship with Osama Bin Laden.

And threatening a former President, you get the gold star of POS today!

Someone needs to make their own film with Larry Baby on the hot seat and use his strategy of interrupting him as he tries to answer the moderator’s questions. Perhaps he needs to get out more or simply “Get out”!

seek said:
I do not buy your guys argument that just cause we do something in Libya we should be doing something in syria,iran ect. There really is a limit and all presidents have to pick and choose on when we get involved.

Thanks for your post- refreshing when someone actually contemplates an issue from various angles –
however, my point wasn’t that just because this administration has decided to get involved with Libya we should step in to other countries civil wars, and battles, just the opposite – it was WHY? Why Libya? and not those other internal national crisis’s.
When we get involved in another country whether humanitarian, or in the course of battle, there is a viable reason, one that explicitly benefits the US in some tangible way- whether supporting an ally (which you astutely pointed out, may be one of the factors with Libya – to support France) or neutralizing a possible security threat to the world or maintaining peace.
I was not comfortable with this President bypassing the Congress before embarking on this commitment to NATO forces and Libya. It protects the President, as well as our nation when our elected leaders can vet a situation and determine the course we should take, not just a unilateral decision.

redleaf said:
Republicans think Rice won the debate.
Democrats think O’Donnell won the debate.
There. I just saved everyone a lot of reading.

That’s crazy. You can judge a debate without caring about the ‘side’. She provided lots of facts to support her claims, he did not. I’m sure Elliot Spitzer would have done a good job on this topic. He’s brilliant, though morally questionable.

share with you a very good website

http://www.legendstrade.com

On Rice’s watch – 9-11
After Rice’s watch – Dead OBL (or for you Fox Viewers) Dead UBL.

huntingtonboy said:
On Rice’s watch – 9-11After Rice’s watch – Dead OBL (or for you Fox Viewers) Dead UBL.

Ding, ding, ding….Congrats for the most inane post of the day!

I watched the entire interview, and anyone who has doubts of Ms. Rice’s inelegance is a fool themselves… I loved the part where she said “Lawrence, we will end this interview if you continue to interrupt me” just like my mom used to when I got out of line.

Aside from that I think that we also need to formulate our opinions with the knowledge that the Bush administration acted in response to the information that they were given… I’m not making excuses for them I’m just looking at this thing objectively (or attempting to at least)… As Ms. Rice stated “the intelligence was flawed.”

However, one can make the argument that if the Bush administration had their eyes opened to all possibilities, then a wiser course of action could have been pursued. The Bush administration was (it seemed) fixated on going to war with, and blaming Iraq for 9/11. In my judgment they simply cut of the corners of the square peg to make it fit in the round hole…

cjd ohio 1 said:
we also machined gun japanese survivors of sunken warships if they were in swimming distance of land, war crime trials are conducted by the winners in war

So you’re saying that makes it ok?

Pablo said:
Oh, look who’s ignorant!

So you’re agreeing with the the other CLOWN’S premise that Obama needs to have had ‘state’ visits in order to be qualified to have any foreign policy experience? All those other ‘foreign policy’ trips don’t mean anything because they didn’t have parties, sing songs and have parades????

What a DOUBLE CLOWN you ARE!!!

grafxmail7 said:
grafxmail7 says:
May 6, 2011 at 3:58 pm grafxmail7(Quote)

When a child says he feels love toward Obama, that’s cute. When an adult man, like you, feels love for Obama it’s called homosexuality, son!

Penguin60 said:
Ding, ding, ding….Congrats for the most inane post of the day!

No you just won that prize for calling the most factually to the point comment of the entire thread “inane”.

Reginald Never-Wrong Wright said:
I watched the entire interview, and anyone who has doubts of Ms. Rice’s inelegance is a fool themselves… I loved the part where she said “Lawrence, we will end this interview if you continue to interrupt me” just like my mom used to when I got out of line. Aside from that I think that we also need to formulate our opinions with the knowledge that the Bush administration acted in response to the information that they were given… I’m not making excuses for them I’m just looking at this thing objectively (or attempting to at least)… As Ms. Rice stated “the intelligence was flawed.” However, one can make the argument that if the Bush administration had their eyes opened to all possibilities, then a wiser course of action could have been pursued. The Bush administration was (it seemed) fixated on going to war with, and blaming Iraq for 9/11. In my judgment they simply cut of the corners of the square peg to make it fit in the round hole…

Nothing elegant about rehashing old talking points that were not that good to begin with.

TheEagle said:
So I post a link from a non-partisan website and you post one from a very partisan website and you think that refutes anything. That’s so cute!

How’s this:

Osama bin Laden was emerging as a terrorist as Bill Clinton was inaugurated as president. The Saudi exile would be implicated in the first World Trade Center bombing, which occurred a month after Clinton took office. Bin Laden would contribute to the Somali debacle that scarred the president’s first use of military force abroad. His al-Qa’eda network would kill more Americans in two bombings in Saudi Arabia and at two U.S. embassies in East Africa, and nearly sink a Navy warship in the final months of Clinton’s term. But nothing the Clinton administration did over 8 years — FBI investigations, a cruise missile strike against Afghanistan and Sudan, the training of Pakistani commandos for a covert operation that never took place — thwarted bin Laden’s network and its terrorist ambitions.

Since the attacks Sept. 11 on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, questions have been raised about whether Clinton could have done more to stop bin Laden before he struck at the symbols of America’s financial and military might. That issue is likely to be scrutinized for years.

Interviews with more than two dozen senior officials who worked in or with the Clinton administration on terrorist issues reveal an answer that lacks black-and-white clarity. The bottom line: The Clinton administration took significant steps against bin Laden but, reluctant to lose American lives and fearing a lack of public support, decided against the most aggressive responses.

Even Clinton’s defenders acknowledge that, for much of his tenure, fighting terrorism wasn’t his highest priority. In the campaign in 1992, he promised to fix the flagging U.S. economy, and in his first term, he devoted less time to foreign concerns. The inability of the CIA director to see the president face-to-face became the subject of White House jokes. In his second term, when bin Laden emerged as the mastermind of plots against Americans,

“Admittedly, it’s easier to show leadership after Sept. 11, (but) that’s what leaders are for,” says L. Paul Bremer, the top counterterrorism official in the Reagan administration and head of a congressional commission on terrorism. “Instead of showing strength, they showed weakness. The administration didn’t have a very clear strategy to fight terrorism, and it doesn’t seem to have been a high priority.”

Top Clinton officials and the former president himself strongly dispute any charge of negligence. (Clinton and his vice president, Al Gore, declined to be interviewed for this article.)
______________

Aides say the experience in Somalia reinforced Clinton’s caution about military action abroad. He was convinced that military missions carried great peril and that the American public wouldn’t accept even small numbers of U.S. casualties.

For bin Laden, who provided weapons and warriors for the unrest in Mogadishu, there were lessons from Somalia as well. He had fought against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s; the mujahedin fighters’ success in sending Soviet troops packing had surprised and encouraged him. Experts say he drew similar conclusions — that superpowers could be vanquished, sometimes with surprising ease — from the limited U.S. response in Somalia.

“Our boys … went to Somalia and prepared themselves carefully for a long war,” bin Laden said in a rare interview, conducted in 1998 by ABC at a mountaintop camp in Afghanistan. “Our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier, and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all its bragging.”

‘We couldn’t indict him’

By 1995, U.S. intelligence officials were paying attention to bin Laden because of his multimillion-dollar family fortune, his hostility to the United States and his ties to known terrorist groups. “He was considered a dangerous man,” recalls Philip Wilcox, the top counterterrorism official at the State Department at the time.

Senior administration officials were intrigued when Sudan, eager to improve its dismal relations with the United States, secretly offered in early 1995 to turn over bin Laden to the Saudi government, which had exiled him 4 years earlier. But the Saudis declined.

“They were afraid it was too much of a hot potato, and I understand where they were,” Clinton recalled at his speech to association executives. He said the United States was helpless to take up Sudan on the offer directly: “We couldn’t indict him then because he hadn’t killed anybody in America. He hadn’t done anything to us.” (Only in 1996 would bin Laden’s links to the first World Trade Center bombing and the Somali battle become known.)

In retrospect, some critics call the administration’s decision to demur wrongheaded and inexplicable.

“We felt we had to fight him with Marquess of Queensberry rules,” says Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2001/11/12/clinton-usatcov.htm

So, were those killed in the first WTC bombing considered…..American citizens? How about our embassies?

Jaurez said:
No, he’s actually cheered. “Good for him” is just above.

When O’Reilly interrupts a guest, he does it because the guest is not addressing his question. When O’Donnell interrupts a guest, it’s because wants to insert his answer to his question.

WildMan said:
For Gay Lawrence O’Donnell, this type of so called journalism is par for the course! This character has very serious anger and personality issues. He needs help but, it doesn’t appear that Comcast cares. I’d get this a**hole checked into a good mental institution and let the Psychiatrists determine whether a 10 year or 20 year stay would be best.

Having said that it is also very apparent that PMS/LSDnbc is out of control. How can anyone work there and keep a straight face? It is Kindegarten time 24/7 at 30Rock.

SteveMG said:
“Rice was among the Bush administration officials who tried to establish a link between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, a link they later backed away from”

You left out some key information there, Mr. Christopher.

The link between AQ and Hussein was first made by the Clinton Administration in their indictment of Bin Laden for, among other things, the bombings of our embassies in Africa and the attack on the USS Cole.

It, i.e, the link and that part of the indictment, was later withdrawn after Saddam was removed from power and additional evidence showed the charges to be incorrect.

But again, it was the Clinton Administration that first made the connection, not the Bush White House.

This is an out right lie that was spread by the Weekly Standard and the Washington Times. This was debunked years ago. I cannot believe that someone is ignorant enough to try and pass that proved falsehood around again. Geez, you can’t do better that this?

notsofast said:
When a child says he feels love toward Obama, that’s cute. When an adult man, like you, feels love for Obama it’s called homosexuality, son!

So by your logic when you show love for Limbaugh, Chicken Little Beck, Palin it’s BESTIALITY?

You live on this site 24/7 and you still can’t make funny insults…..you should quit while you’re behind with your feeble attempts CLOWN! HAHAHAHAHAH!!

“There was no need for Lawrence O’Donnell to put her on the hot seat the way he did.”

The entire Bush administration was allowed to “skate” for years, until the truth began to slowly leak out. People want and deserve tough questions to finally be asked. Rice appeared perfectly capable of answering – or not answering – the questions put to her.

“He shouldn’t really have even brought up the Iraq war.”

It was the Bush administration’s defining event – and shame.

“Everyone knows how the Bush Administration botched everything up over there and she’s not going to admit it, so trying to embarrass her like that made him look like a bully.”

While “everyone knows how the Bush Administration botched everything up,” only a relatively few ethical conservatives are willing to admit it. The others need to admit it, as well. If not to others, at least to themselves.

“She was nice enough to come on and he might have problems getting other guests on.”

According to progressive radio host Thom hartmann (.com), that’s EXACTLY why we see “softball” interviews on the networks. David Gregory and Chris Wallace fear loss of access to politicians who may refuse to return after a good going-over. O’D deserves credit for being unafraid to step on Condi’s Manolo Blahniks while seeking straight answers.

—

From: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42861619/42857796 :

Arthur Caplan, Ph.D., is director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania;

” . . . American values are jeopardized when we engage in torture against our enemies. Even in combat there is no place for torture. But, there is a place in just wars for killing, including those who lead organized combatants against us. Whether those heading organized efforts to wage war against us are military leaders, religious leaders or civilians, we are well within our rights to do whatever it takes to stop them. Killing Osama bin Laden is not unethical murder — it is the price organized terrorists who declare war against us must expect to pay.”

“Be as rude and hard-line a democrat as you can be Lawrence, we have to get those viewers back!” is what his boss told him or possibly his reflection in the mirror.

It was good to see someone asking the tough questions and not accepting a non-answer for an answer. Kudo’s to O’Donnell.

Yea mlb im not comfortable with going into Libya either without some kind of vetting through congress. But the problem with that in this day and age is Obama goes to congress and they screw around for weeks or months trying to make their partisan minds up, in the mean time civilians are getting massacred on the ground. Than being said I dont think NATO went in because there were civilians being massacred. They went in because that country being stable is important to them. We get 2% of our oil from Libya. The europeans get a hell of alot more. And if Kadifi is aloud to run wild, the refugee problem from that area would be a huge strain on those countries. What annoys me and both sides do this, is that I get the strategic reason for going to Libya, but the politicians always try and sell it as a humanitarian reason. Thats a bunch of crap. I dont think they feel the public is smart enough for us to understand the strategic side, so they always sell us on ohhh lets save the poor unwashed masses.

insideguy said:
Obama goes to congress and they screw around for weeks or months trying to make their partisan minds up

The unrest began February 15. the O administration took it to the UN:

The Obama administration had said it would not act without Security Council authorization, though it would be willing to cooperate on measures “short of boots on the ground.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/17/seeks-resolution-authorizing-wide-range-strikes-libya/

The UN’s Security Counsel approved the resolution on March 17, coalition forces didn’t begin intervening until March 19, but, Congress would have screwed around for weeks? perhaps months? you say. The bambi man and the UN did screw around too long, the rebel forces weakened signifiicantly, just…..waiting and begging.

The man in the OO needs to learn to chew gum and walk at the same time, Congress coulda, shoulda been involved.

Oh i agree with ya Rio the UN did screw around no surprise there. All im saying is that Obama takes it to congress and then there is more screwing around and it becomes a big partisan mess. Reagan didnt go to congress for grenada, he didnt go to congress for bombing Libya in the 80s. He didnt go to congress for sending troops to Beirut(i dont think). Did bush #1 go to congress for panama? And hell im not being critical of those guys for not going to congress,my point is that it isnt always practical to do so.

jrcmi said:
“There was no need for Lawrence O’Donnell to put her on the hot seat the way he did.” The entire Bush administration was allowed to “skate” for years, until the truth began to slowly leak out. People want and deserve tough questions to finally be asked. Rice appeared perfectly capable of answering – or not answering – the questions put to her. “He shouldn’t really have even brought up the Iraq war.” It was the Bush administration’s defining event – and shame. “Everyone knows how the Bush Administration botched everything up over there and she’s not going to admit it, so trying to embarrass her like that made him look like a bully.” While “everyone knows how the Bush Administration botched everything up,” only a relatively few ethical conservatives are willing to admit it. The others need to admit it, as well. If not to others, at least to themselves. “She was nice enough to come on and he might have problems getting other guests on.” According to progressive radio host Thom hartmann (.com), that’s EXACTLY why we see “softball” interviews on the networks. David Gregory and Chris Wallace fear loss of access to politicians who may refuse to return after a good going-over. O’D deserves credit for being unafraid to step on Condi’s Manolo Blahniks while seeking straight answers. — From: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42861619/42857796 : Arthur Caplan, Ph.D., is director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania; ” . . . American values are jeopardized when we engage in torture against our enemies. Even in combat there is no place for torture. But, there is a place in just wars for killing, including those who lead organized combatants against us. Whether those heading organized efforts to wage war against us are military leaders, religious leaders or civilians, we are well within our rights to do whatever it takes to stop them. Killing Osama bin Laden is not unethical murder — it is the price organized terrorists who declare war against us must expect to pay.”

Perhaps you too need a refresher (glad I could be of assistance)

Pre-War Quotes from Democrats

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

“Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation’s wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them.”
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998.

“Fateful decisions will be made in the days and weeks ahead. At issue is nothing less than the fundamental question of whether or not we can keep the most lethal weapons known to mankind out of the hands of an unreconstructed tyrant and aggressor who is in the same league as the most brutal dictators of this century.”
Sen. Joe Biden (D, DE), Feb. 12, 1998

“It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction. As long as UNSCOM is prevented from carrying out its mission, the effort to monitor Iraqi compliance with Resolution 687 becomes a dangerous shell game. Neither the United States nor the global community can afford to allow Saddam Hussein to continue on this path.”
Sen. Tom Daschle (D, SD), Feb. 12, 1998

“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998.

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb. 18, 1998.

“We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

“As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

“Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

“This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

“We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

“My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction. I’m a co-sponsor of the bipartisan resolution that’s presently under consideration in the Senate. Saddam Hussein’s regime is a grave threat to America and our allies…”
John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years …. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do.”
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members…. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct. 10, 2002.

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.

“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime …. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction …. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ….”
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

insideguy said:
insideguy says:
May 6, 2011 at 7:06 pm

With Libya it was retalliation, much like Clinton’s cruise missles into Afghanistan. Libya attacked airports in Rome and Vienna and threatened more attacks, soon after that the disco in Berlin was attacked killing Americans. In Grenada, we had American medical students under threat and we did have a coalition of three, the RSS and Jamaica jumped right in. Beirut was supposed to be a rescue mission, bit different than the regime change/no fly zone that’s going on in Libya as we are already involved in two fronts with a CIC that many are not assured of his capability as a war fighter to begin with.

Panama, don’t personally see a good reason for the US to do that one, they took out Noriega, a very bad, bad guy and now he’s rotting in a cell in France. After the you fight we’ll hold your coat thingy, years and a prison term later, France finally got their man.

Rio said:
How’s this:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2001/11/12/clinton-usatcov.htm

So, were those killed in the first WTC bombing considered…..American citizens? How about our embassies?

Interesting that you omitted this paragragh:

“For the Clinton administration, that was the fundamental problem: Where was bin Laden? If he could be located, Clinton had authorized a military strike against him. But the president’s inner circle — Albright, Berger and Defense Secretary William Cohen among them — agreed that basic question was never answered with enough certainty to order special operations forces deployed or missiles launched.”

Yup i think we are on common ground sort of. I guess you can make a strech and say all those were different and they all were. All of these are different. I just remembered Somalia as well bush went in there without congress. I honestly think the last thing Obama wanted was another military deal going down in the middle east. But these things get complicated and I know NATO wanted to go, jesus when they want to do a military action you know they are desperate. We have these alliances for a reason and we are honoring them.

Oh and with panama I think USA could have cared less if Noriega was a bad guy. He was causing to many problems and our strategic interest(panama canal) were in trouble, so we took him out. Its all about strategy:)

The Bush admin. basically gave up on UBL and decided that Iraq was easier. Thank God, we have a president in Obama who understood that getting UBL was a priority.

When i hear democrats and republicans pointing the finger at eachother and saying should have done this should have done that, I feel there will always be a political divide in this country. Obama just got rid of the most wanted man in the world everyone celebrated for one damn day and now its back to square one again. Obama shouldnt have killed him take him alive shouldnt have buried him in sea should release the photo, my god when does this crap end, if bush did exactly what obama did republicans would be celebrating like no other and democrates would be doing exactly what the republicans are doing now. The one time democrats and republicans will work together is when someone who is not with there political party tries to get in a presidential race. Dems and Repubs are a two party dictatorship. If a republican does something great it will be criticized by democrats and vice versa. Why would anyone be a registered voter as either of these two parties. The next elections should have the candidates running with just there names on the ballot and no political party, and then see how the voting goes. And i know this doesnt have much to do with the topic of the video but its just an over all thing.

TheEagle said:
Interesting that you omitted this paragragh:

Glad your brought that up. Just like those that complain about Tora Bora, the guys on the ground beg to differ with the big guys, Who to believe, who to believe?

jrcmi said:
“There was no need for Lawrence O’Donnell to put her on the hot seat the way he did.”

The entire Bush administration was allowed to “skate” for years, until the truth began to slowly leak out. People want and deserve tough questions to finally be asked. Rice appeared perfectly capable of answering – or not answering – the questions put to her.

“He shouldn’t really have even brought up the Iraq war.”

It was the Bush administration’s defining event – and shame.

“Everyone knows how the Bush Administration botched everything up over there and she’s not going to admit it, so trying to embarrass her like that made him look like a bully.”

While “everyone knows how the Bush Administration botched everything up,” only a relatively few ethical conservatives are willing to admit it. The others need to admit it, as well. If not to others, at least to themselves.

“She was nice enough to come on and he might have problems getting other guests on.”

According to progressive radio host Thom hartmann (.com), that’s EXACTLY why we see “softball” interviews on the networks. David Gregory and Chris Wallace fear loss of access to politicians who may refuse to return after a good going-over. O’D deserves credit for being unafraid to step on Condi’s Manolo Blahniks while seeking straight answers.

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From: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42861619/42857796 :

Arthur Caplan, Ph.D., is director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania;

” . . . American values are jeopardized when we engage in torture against our enemies. Even in combat there is no place for torture. But, there is a place in just wars for killing, including those who lead organized combatants against us. Whether those heading organized efforts to wage war against us are military leaders, religious leaders or civilians, we are well within our rights to do whatever it takes to stop them. Killing Osama bin Laden is not unethical murder — it is the price organized terrorists who declare war against us must expect to pay.”

The job of the media in a free society is to put political figures on the hot seat. She started out interrupting O’Donnell then she complained when she did it to him. She has repeatedly lied about events that transpired during her tenure with the Bush Administration. She should be held to task for her performance.

insideguy said:
I guess you can make a strech and say all those were different and they all were. All of these are different. I just remembered Somalia as well bush went in there without congress

Somalia was a humanitarian mission that suffered from mission creep and went horribly bad,

There are sites that have information as it is declassified, used to fascinate me, would spend a lot of time reading through it all, don’t have the time anymore and my stupid new computer for some reason doesn’t let me get into any pdfs. Everything is meant to be, get more things accomplished. Nice conversation, thanks.

Edith Massey said:
No you just won that prize for calling the most factually to the point comment of the entire thread “inane”.

Is your last name Bunker?

Reginald Never-Wrong Wright said:
I watched the entire interview, and anyone who has doubts of Ms. Rice’s inelegance is a fool themselves… I loved the part where she said “Lawrence, we will end this interview if you continue to interrupt me” just like my mom used to when I got out of line. Aside from that I think that we also need to formulate our opinions with the knowledge that the Bush administration acted in response to the information that they were given… I’m not making excuses for them I’m just looking at this thing objectively (or attempting to at least)… As Ms. Rice stated “the intelligence was flawed.” However, one can make the argument that if the Bush administration had their eyes opened to all possibilities, then a wiser course of action could have been pursued. The Bush administration was (it seemed) fixated on going to war with, and blaming Iraq for 9/11. In my judgment they simply cut of the corners of the square peg to make it fit in the round hole…

I don’t know how old you were when all this was happening, but it was a war cry from all sides. I posted the comments from the Democrats. As Rice stated, the intelligence was wrong. The Democrats scurrying off the ship was wrong also. Listening to some who’s statements previously were on the record supporting the action to suddenly disavow all knowledge of it and blame the entire thing on Bush was disingenuous and I lost a whole lot of respect for them at that point.

I can’t remember who I had heard recently from the Bush administration say that they made a tactical error by not exposing the hypocrites at that time – they let it be and it cost them. It cost them dearly. I think the chasm between the two parties widened and it has kept on widening. Obama who portrayed himself as the person who would bring America together has done irreparable harm with his divisive speeches where he had pointedly gone out of his way to ridicule and belittle the republicans. That is so far from Statesman like behavior and yet he persisted. Perhaps his handlers told him that he had to keep fighting the right and never let up. I don’t know. All I know is that I lost all respect for the man after about the 3rd speech when he had nothing except to blame Bush and bash the Republicans.

I know there are many people who feel like I do. Obama had his chance with us, he tried to rub our noses into every fault of the government his stick was “blame the republicans”. We will never warm to him. It just won’t happen.

I’m glad Osama is gone. It doesn’t for a minute change my opinion of Obama. Self serving, self aggrandizing, little man who tried to make up with bravado and divisiveness, what he lacked in experience.

Clinton really didn’t bother – for all his frailties of the flesh – he acted like a Statesman.

It’s funny how every stupid liberal on this site wet their panties over Bill O’s interview with Obama but will cheer O’Donnell’s interview here. Condi answered every question he asked directly despite O’Donnell’s interrupting. Where are all the cries of racism from the dogwhistle/code word in tuned Left. We should all expect a post on that from Tommy coming up shortly.

condi’s still trying to find WMD’s in iraq

that’s the summation of conservatism

dumbasses lost in the desert.

I guess O’Donnell “knows” more than the al Qaeda members in custody and Saddamists in custody who both said the two cooperated (and it’s MANY of them) that I’ve detailed at http://www.regimeofterror.com. Just because those of you reading this don’t know about it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

“probably the worst national security adviser since the office was created.” David Kay
Accomplishments as SOS: ….!

Mr. Christopher: Please refrain from ending sentences with prepositions.

Kindasleazy forgot to mention that intelligence she said was wrong was the same Intel she and her boss had stovepiped from their own picks of intel gatherers.

In other words, Bush created the wrong intel they used to start a war.

ksecus said:
Kindasleazy forgot to mention that intelligence she said was wrong was the same Intel she and her boss had stovepiped from their own picks of intel gatherers. In other words, Bush created the wrong intel they used to start a war.

really? Do tell……

MarkEichenlaub said:
I guess O’Donnell “knows” more than the al Qaeda members in custody and Saddamists in custody who both said the two cooperated (and it’s MANY of them) that I’ve detailed at http://www.regimeofterror.com. Just because those of you reading this don’t know about it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Don’t confuse the uninformed with facts. If it doesn’t appear on HufPo, it doesn’t exist. They have their spiel and are lost without it. The problem I think is that many of these posters weren’t old enough to even know what went on and are relying upon what they’ve been “told” went on by leftist professors, schoolteachers, Hollywood, and popular leftist media parading as news. Hell, most of them don’t even know what the capitol of our states are!

Here’s another on the same subject. Of course, all these comments are probably made up and falsified as well. http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

xraex413 said:
When i hear democrats and republicans pointing the finger at eachother and saying should have done this should have done that, I feel there will always be a political divide in this country. Obama just got rid of the most wanted man in the world everyone celebrated for one damn day and now its back to square one again. Obama shouldnt have killed him take him alive shouldnt have buried him in sea should release the photo, my god when does this crap end, if bush did exactly what obama did republicans would be celebrating like no other and democrates would be doing exactly what the republicans are doing now. The one time democrats and republicans will work together is when someone who is not with there political party tries to get in a presidential race. Dems and Repubs are a two party dictatorship. If a republican does something great it will be criticized by democrats and vice versa. Why would anyone be a registered voter as either of these two parties. The next elections should have the candidates running with just there names on the ballot and no political party, and then see how the voting goes. And i know this doesnt have much to do with the topic of the video but its just an over all thing.

Except that many Democrats disagree with what Obama did. I, for one, am thankful that he killed bin Laden. The burial at sea……not so sure. The conflicting stories, definitely not!

TheEagle said:

In case no one else has answered you. FactCheck is a liberal-biased website.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081013081734AA2jsZ1

“As FactCheck.org is primarily funded by the Annenberg Foundation, its claims of non-partisan efforts is questionable as Barack Obama was a founding member, chairman, and president of a project that was also funded by the Annenberg Foundation. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was a Chicago public reform project that brought together civic, business and university leaders, as well as foundations and other groups, in support of 18 school improvement projects. It built broad public-private coalitions consisting of mayors, superintendents, principals, union leaders, civic leaders and community groups.”
http://www.marketwatch.com/Community/groups/us-politics/topics/factcheck-just-liberal-shill

So is MediaMatters. You guys make or read skewed points and then use these hack sites to prove your points. It’s like asking the Wolf if it’s true that Red Riding Hood was just asking to be eaten because she asked him stupid questions.

tiredoftherunaround said:
Except that many Democrats disagree with what Obama did. I, for one, am thankful that he killed bin Laden. The burial at sea……not so sure. The conflicting stories, definitely not!

agreed. I’m surprised they didn’t have a prepared statement that everyone stuck to. I think the problem is that as we all know leaks occur and in their attempt to cover all scenarios that might be leaked – they went with all of them. Thus the hazards of instant news, cell phones, pics. etc.

Repost as the quote didn’t come through:
” mlb said:
Fact: Clinton had a clean shot at Osama and didn’t take it.

TheEagle says: Fact: That is not a fact and has long been discredited: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_bill_clinton_pass_up_a_chance_1.html ”
—————————————————————————————————————————
In case no one else has answered you. FactCheck is a liberal-biased website.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081013081734AA2jsZ1

“As FactCheck.org is primarily funded by the Annenberg Foundation, its claims of non-partisan efforts is questionable as Barack Obama was a founding member, chairman, and president of a project that was also funded by the Annenberg Foundation. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was a Chicago public reform project that brought together civic, business and university leaders, as well as foundations and other groups, in support of 18 school improvement projects. It built broad public-private coalitions consisting of mayors, superintendents, principals, union leaders, civic leaders and community groups.”
http://www.marketwatch.com/Community/groups/us-politics/topics/factcheck-just-liberal-shill

So is MediaMatters. You guys make or read skewed points and then use these hack sites to prove your points. It’s like asking the Wolf if it’s true that Red Riding Hood was just asking to be eaten because she asked him stupid questions.

tiredoftherunaround said:
Repost as the quote didn’t come through:
” mlb said:
Fact: Clinton had a clean shot at Osama and didn’t take it.

TheEagle says: Fact: That is not a fact and has long been discredited: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_bill_clinton_pass_up_a_chance_1.html ”
—————————————————————————————————————————
In case no one else has answered you. FactCheck is a liberal-biased website.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081013081734AA2jsZ1

“As FactCheck.org is primarily funded by the Annenberg Foundation, its claims of non-partisan efforts is questionable as Barack Obama was a founding member, chairman, and president of a project that was also funded by the Annenberg Foundation. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was a Chicago public reform project that brought together civic, business and university leaders, as well as foundations and other groups, in support of 18 school improvement projects. It built broad public-private coalitions consisting of mayors, superintendents, principals, union leaders, civic leaders and community groups.”
http://www.marketwatch.com/Community/groups/us-politics/topics/factcheck-just-liberal-shill

So is MediaMatters. You guys make or read skewed points and then use these hack sites to prove your points. It’s like asking the Wolf if it’s true that Red Riding Hood was just asking to be eaten because she asked him stupid questions.

Fact check it not a hack site. Nor is it a partisan site. You can’t refute the facts that they present and don’t like what it has to say because it doesn’t fit with your ideology so you try to discredit it.

See Rice and Powell announce only a few months before the invasion that Sadaam posed no threat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1X-I-38lrU

seek said:
really? Do tell……

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-plotted-to-lure-saddam-into-war-with-fake-un-plane-465436.html
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/huffington/2003/07/16/state_of_the_union/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A32110-2003Feb5?language=printer
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/05/973536/-Refuting-Condoleezza-Rices-Lies-About-The-Threat-Of-A-Mushroom-Cloud
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html
Your turn!

uhmmmm jim – when you learn to separate the wheat from the chaff call me.

Rewriting history to suit your agenda does not the truth make. You want to see what other far out ideas are floating around the web? lol

p.s. didn’t open even one of your sites – might be a virus (with names like salon, dailykos, etc.)
You probably believe in Sasquatch also, after all there are pictures on the web “”proving” it exists.

seek said:
I posted the comments from the Democrats. As Rice stated, the intelligence was wrong.

Yes, you posted many out-of-context Dem quotes. The Clinton-era quotes largely referred to support for UN weapons inspections in Iraq. The Bush-era quotes were based on misleading intel “cooked” by the administration.

We were misled by Bush and Cheney into believing Saddam Hussein still had WMDs – including his own SecState, Colin Powell. You “seek” to perpetuate that deception.

AikidoJoke said: “It’s funny how every stupid liberal on this site wet their panties over Bill O’s interview with Obama but will cheer O’Donnell’s interview here.”

O’Lielly was simply rude, interrupting the president incessantly in a crude attempt to get him to blow his cool. Fat chance. Rice’s evasive answers led O’D to become more direct and blunt.

The key difference in the two exchanges; O’R interrupted while Obama was TRYING to answer his questions while O’D interrupted when Rice tried to EVADE answering his questions.

” Condi answered every question he asked directly”

Not hardly.

“Where are all the cries of racism from the dogwhistle/code word in tuned Left.”

Dissembling and evasion have no color. YOU are the one injecting race into the discussion.

hgovernick said:
Mr. Christopher: Please refrain from ending sentences with prepositions.

“This is the sort of English up with which I will not put.” – Winston Churchill
” In case no one else has answered you. FactCheck is a liberal-biased website.”

Just ask a conservative.

“So is MediaMatters.”

I’m still waiting for proof of an MM factual error. Request #37.

sneek said:
I’m surprised they didn’t have a prepared statement that everyone stuck to. I think the problem is that as we all know leaks occur and in their attempt to cover all scenarios that might be leaked – they went with all of them. Thus the hazards of instant news, cell phones, pics. etc.

Paranoid much?

The most likely “scenario” is that information got disseminated though many people at many levels and got distorted. Jimmy Kimmel played a game of “Telephone” on his show recently, demonstrating how quickly facts can become distorted.

jim bronson 990cc said:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-plotted-to-lure-saddam-into-war-with-fake-un-plane-465436.html
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/huffington/2003/07/16/state_of_the_union/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A32110-2003Feb5?language=printer
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/05/973536/-Refuting-Condoleezza-Rices-Lies-About-The-Threat-Of-A-Mushroom-Cloud
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html
Your turn!

seek said:
uhmmmm jim – when you learn to separate the wheat from the chaff call me.

He did. You’re chaff.

jrci – we’ve sort of put you in the uninformed pile. Stupid lasts forever – you’re specimen #1.
p.s. your comments – dog pile smells better.

Resistance Is Futile said:
The job of the media in a free society is to put political figures on the hot seat. She started out interrupting O’Donnell then she complained when she did it to him. She has repeatedly lied about events that transpired during her tenure with the Bush Administration. She should be held to task for her performance.

You’re obviously a racist misogynist.

grafxmail7 said:
So you’re agreeing with the the other CLOWN’S premise that Obama needs to have had ’state’ visits in order to be qualified to have any foreign policy experience? All those other ‘foreign policy’ trips don’t mean anything because they didn’t have parties, sing songs and have parades????

What a DOUBLE CLOWN you ARE!!!

Hey dork – please read the entire post before you attempt to reply. I never said he had to have ‘state’ visits just A visit, any visit, to a foreign country and I am not talking about the illegal trip to Pakistan he admitted to have taken in the 80′s. I am talking about going over to the ME as a Senator, or stepping foot in Canada or Mexico. Soemthing that showed he was at the very least interested in our nation foreign relationships, our troops abroad, or just interested enough to have a first hand knowledge from a personal visit. Sorry, living in Indonesia at the age of 6 doesn’t count- and if it does then he can be counted as an expert in muslim traditions since that is where he spent the majority of his day – in school. Your ignorance is appalling.

seek said:
uhmmmm jim – when you learn to separate the wheat from the chaff call me. Rewriting history to suit your agenda does not the truth make. You want to see what other far out ideas are floating around the web? lol p.s. didn’t open even one of your sites – might be a virus (with names like salon, dailykos, etc.)You probably believe in Sasquatch also, after all there are pictures on the web “”proving” it exists.

And you believe facts do not matter.

Just because Saddam was clever enough to hide where the “oil for food” money was going doesn’t mean that some of it was not going to bin Laden.