No one cares what these two losers say. They were kicked of TV for a reason.

People, if you don’t post in these Olby threads they wont continue. We hold the power.

Move along. :)

Fact: Keith who? What? Really Huh?

I am no fan of morning joe, but the claim Joe Scarborough holds editorial control over network booking makes no sense, and personally I find it hard to believe. But the assertion has been made, and the question stands; Does Joe hold that kind of power at MSNBC? I would need more than a clam by Moulitsas that he does to believe it, and if so, why.

BFD said:
People, if you don’t post in these Olby threads they wont continue.

And yet you post in the thread. ;)

“petty and small-minded”… Yep, that sums up Markos pretty well.

“Any moral high ground Moulitsas was trying to stake out seemed to be quickly lost”… Makos has NEVER has morals OR the high ground. He is a bottom feeder, as are the bile that traffic his site.

GoneFishing said:
I am no fan of morning joe, but the claim Joe Scarborough holds editorial control over network booking makes no sense, and personally I find it hard to believe. But the assertion has been made, and the question stands; Does Joe hold that kind of power at MSNBC? I would need more than a clam by Moulitsas that he does to believe it, and if so, why.

No… Joe does not. Markos made such a low and vile comment that MSNBC brass had no choice but to ban him.

tatboy said:
“petty and small-minded”… Yep, that sums up Markos pretty well.

“Any moral high ground Moulitsas was trying to stake out seemed to be quickly lost”… Makos has NEVER has morals OR the high ground. He is a bottom feeder, as are the bile that traffic his site.

I tend to view Kos as the Michael Wiener (Savage) of the left. To be sure, his own language is not as foul or vulgar, but the same credibility.

That picture .

Peter Lorre not looking too good these days .

http://meganclose.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/star-of-the-week-peter-lorre/

Lori Klausutis will hang around Joe Scarborogh’s neck for the rest of his life. Joe is not a conservative, he is not even a moderate, Joe has become a liberal Republican. Phil Griffin wants MSNBC to be ‘The place where progressives go’. Joe has become a useful idiot for progressives to crticize ‘any one conservative’. If Joe does not behave, progressives will bring up Lori Klausutis, that’s exactlty what Markos Moulitsas did last time. Joe became furious and was able to make MSNBC blacklist progressive darling Markos.
Poor Joe!, you are just an idiot. Prgressives use you, and conservatives like me don’t give a damn what you have to say.

tatboy said:
GoneFishing said:
I am no fan of morning joe, but the claim Joe Scarborough holds editorial control over network booking makes no sense, and personally I find it hard to believe. But the assertion has been made, and the question stands; Does Joe hold that kind of power at MSNBC? I would need more than a clam by Moulitsas that he does to believe it, and if so, why.

No… Joe does not. Markos made such a low and vile comment that MSNBC brass had no choice but to ban him.

With respect, I think you may both be wrong. The ratings may not seem to justify this power, but MJ is something akin to Wallace at FOX “News”. The show that gives MSNBC a political credence. A show case, if you will. The first political show of the morning. The one discussed much of the day among the power elite, and the show to which the other networks respond. I think even that is a bit inflated, but that is apparently the MSNBC thought.

Markos looks like someone who’s been crying his eyes out for years. Or at least since his beloved Obamo ‘took ownership’ of everything he had been trying to blame Bush for. Imagine the crying this little limp-wrist will do in the next fifteen months as ‘The Economy’ punishes Obamo for his malfeasance. Tee Hee!

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I tend to view Kos as the Michael Wiener (Savage) of the left. To be sure, his own language is not as foul or vulgar, but the same credibility.

I like the analogy with Savage (Weiner). Both have an equal quality of instability. I would argue the language thing. Markos could keep up with my Marine grandfather (WW2 & Korea) in the language department.

Wow Markos, this is a first but, I have to admit you are correct…Joe Blowhard of Morning Blowhard is a total loser. He is also a turncoat, backstabbing, big mouth nobody. Oh yeah, he is also boring as hell. He has by far the worst morning show on TV. Totally UNF’ing watchable.

Mediaite: I guess I can understand Olbermann’s first night coverage. But if these pages give him continuing coverage far and above what his ratings deserve in a “tail wagging the dog” manner, you’ve lost me. You can’t force someone to be relevant by giving them press. Please spare us the attempt.

It won’t be long before Kos does something ignorant and gets himself banned from Current. He’s that lame.

It’s hilarious that this article uses the term “moral high ground” when discussing teen idol Markos and MSNBC in the same sentence. Oxymoron anyone?

tatboy said:
I like the analogy with Savage (Weiner). Both have an equal quality of instability. I would argue the language thing. Markos could keep up with my Marine grandfather (WW2 & Korea) in the language department.

I didn’t know that about Markos and language.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
With respect, I think you may both be wrong. The ratings may not seem to justify this power, but MJ is something akin to Wallace at FOX “News”. The show that gives MSNBC a political credence. A show case, if you will. The first political show of the morning. The one discussed much of the day among the power elite, and the show to which the other networks respond. I think even that is a bit inflated, but that is apparently the MSNBC thought.

Joe may hold SOME sway. But I don’t think it is enough to ban a guest (not that I really know anything). I simply think Markos went so low that MSNBC had to make a point to Markos. Olbermann (who had him on as a guest) and any other guests that may come on MSNBC.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I didn’t know that about Markos and language.

Check out his Twitter feed sometime. He has quite a temper.

tatboy said:
THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I didn’t know that about Markos and language.

Check out his Twitter feed sometime. He has quite a temper.

I’ll take your word.

I can’t say I’m interested enough in Markos to bother. That type of rabid partisanship and strident ideology doesn’t much appeal to me.

tatboy said:
No… Joe does not. Markos made such a low and vile comment that MSNBC brass had no choice but to ban him.

Ty, I could not believe Joe has that kind of editorial veto. The whole idea that he would is absurd, and to me seemed a bitchy, slant/ways attack at MSNBC. I find it interesting Olberman never corrected Markos…I thought he was going to for a second there, but Keith always did love a smear.

Markos “Screw them” Moulitsas and why we’re both mad at MSNBC is the content of Keef’s inaugural program?

This puppy is stillborn. Thank Gaia that Gore can afford lots and lots of life support.

There’s nothing wrong with Markos Moulitsas that a few good slaps to his face wouldn’t cure.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
With respect, I think you may both be wrong. The ratings may not seem to justify this power, but MJ is something akin to Wallace at FOX “News”. The show that gives MSNBC a political credence. A show case, if you will. The first political show of the morning. The one discussed much of the day among the power elite, and the show to which the other networks respond. I think even that is a bit inflated, but that is apparently the MSNBC thought.

It will be interesting to see how Joe and MSNBC respond, and I think they must answer. This claim is a direct attack on the editorial credibility of the network, and an attack to their viewer base. If the idea that an X-Republican has editorial control of who speaks, and who does not, were to go unanswered, MSNBC would by omission be agreeing with the charge. Its not’ Fair’ but thats the way it works on the interwebz. This could get ugly fast.

That’s what you get, Keith. You feed Markos, then he’ll keep following you around.

BFDummie said:
if you don’t post in these Olby threads they wont continue.

Ironic you were the first one to post? Indeed.

THE FAKE ROYAL KING said:
That type of rabid partisanship and strident ideology doesn’t much appeal to me.

ROFL!

I think both the left and right hate these two clowns. Current tv, is keith on between Shake Weight infomercials?

I don’t agree with Markos on much but I agree with him on this particular issue. Morning Joe is a joke and if it’s going to have crazy Deutsch on its program, it should have crazy Markos.

GoneFishing said:
I am no fan of morning joe, but the claim Joe Scarborough holds editorial control over network booking makes no sense, and personally I find it hard to believe. But the assertion has been made, and the question stands; Does Joe hold that kind of power at MSNBC? I would need more than a clam by Moulitsas that he does to believe it, and if so, why.

I think that Joe S. can tell MSNBC honchos that he had a disagreement with Markos and then said honchos can make decision to not have Markos on their network.

tatboy said:
No… Joe does not. Markos made such a low and vile comment that MSNBC brass had no choice but to ban him.

How is bringing up what happened while Joe was in Congress bad? I don’t know the full gist of what happened but it all sounds fishy from what I know of it. Do you know what happened with his staff member?

DaTruth said:
Mediaite: I guess I can understand Olbermann’s first night coverage. But if these pages give him continuing coverage far and above what his ratings deserve in a “tail wagging the dog” manner, you’ve lost me. You can’t force someone to be relevant by giving them press. Please spare us the attempt.

Mediaite makes things relevant? Hmm.. ok.

He’s a riddle: if two pompous asses have a conversation on a TV channel no one has ever heard of, did it really happen? My guess is no.

Also, the ratings from last night are in, and it looks like Olbermann managed to beat both the Home Shopping Network’s special on Jimmy Carter commemorative plates and a cable access channel in Kenosha, Wisconsin. He lost everywhere else. Oh well. Gotta start somewhere. At least he’s got Mediaite reporting on every half-eaten ham sandwich he has in his refridgerator. Keep trying, guys! I’m sure you’ll find someone who cares eventually.

Why are all liberals all whiney nerdy twits?

I chose not to watch Olbermann last night and it appears I didn’t miss much.

ChickaBOOMer: Olbermann Enlists Hired Gun To Attack MSNBC
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2011/06/olbermann-enlists-hired-gun-against.html

So Moulitsas not only looks like a brat but acts like one, too.

fallenchicken said:
I think both the left and right hate these two clowns. Current tv, is keith on between Shake Weight infomercials?

Then you will concur that Glenn Beck’s future program will be seen right after the Home Shopping Network and penis enlargement pill infomercials, thanks.

BFD said:
No one cares what these two losers say. They were kicked of TV for a reason.

People, if you don’t post in these Olby threads they wont continue. We hold the power.

Move along. :)

Thanks for continuing to care about these two, you just might keep them employed.

“Damn, I missed Countdown. I hope Olbermann, Markos and Michael Moore were able to find some common ground!”

Sanders Youth said:
Then you will concur that Glenn Beck’s future program will be seen right after the Home Shopping Network and penis enlargement pill infomercials, thanks.

No, because Beck owns his network.

Hey GOP, you need to find all the pictures you can of candidate Obama at the DailyKos podium kissing Markos’s ass!
This creep has handed the GOP hours of campaign ads just with his twitter account!

WCinWI said:
How is bringing up what happened while Joe was in Congress bad? I don’t know the full gist of what happened but it all sounds fishy from what I know of it. Do you know what happened with his staff member?

Yes… i know about his staff member striking her head and dying alone in his office. I see that sort of thing weekly in my hospital. If she fell alone in a room and struck her head with noone there to call 911 or hold pressure she wouldn’t last long. From what I understand Joe was not in the city at the time of her death.

Wow, Olbermann has really pull out all the stops for the launch of his new show! You’ve got to hand it to him for securing the much coveted and sought after interview with America’s #1 malcontent man-child, Markos Moulitsas. Keith must have been very proud to have the opportunity to show America that he and Markos are on the same team. After all you are elevated to company you keep.
With this, Olbermann has set the bar pretty high for himself. Where will he go from here? I am simply vibrating with anticipation to find out.
As for Morning Joe and MSNBC not inviting Moulitsas on, they cannot afford to be dragged any further down.

What a repulsive looking little slimeball.

I said at the time I disagreed with Markos’ cheap shots at Joe, and thought his remarks exemplified the type of low brow ad hominem we could all do without.

As a liberal, I would encourage fellow travelers to maintain the high ground. I’m looking at Keith and Ed too! They could all learn a thing or two by watching more Rachel.

Jim R said:
I said at the time I disagreed with Markos’ cheap shots at Joe, and thought his remarks exemplified the type of low brow ad hominem we could all do without.

As a liberal, I would encourage fellow travelers to maintain the high ground. I’m looking at Keith and Ed too! They could all learn a thing or two by watching more Rachel.

I love the smell of irony in the morning.

I may be one of the few who believes this, but I don’t think there’s much in the way of moral high-ground when it comes to politics. Power like that makes people act very strangely, IMHO.

WCinWI said:
How is bringing up what happened while Joe was in Congress bad? I don’t know the full gist of what happened but it all sounds fishy from what I know of it. Do you know what happened with his staff member?

Some young woman died in Joe’s Florida congressional office. Joe wasn’t there, wasn’t responsible for whatever happened, so why would any idiot bring it up? I have no idea. I like Morning Joe. They even have some meaning discussions between democrat and republican guests. What a change.

Jim R said:
I said at the time I disagreed with Markos’ cheap shots at Joe, and thought his remarks exemplified the type of low brow ad hominem we could all do without. As a liberal, I would encourage fellow travelers to maintain the high ground. I’m looking at Keith and Ed too! They could all learn a thing or two by watching more Rachel.

Right on.

I don’t know what the Twitter argument was about but if Markos brought up the Lori Klausutis situation in any way, I can believe Scarborough did everything in his power to get Markos off of MSNBC and that the bosses would comply if Scarborough didn’t have the power to do it himself. It didn’t take much of a google search to find out enough about the Lori Klausutis situation to know that Scarborough has reason to be even more deathly afraid of questions being raised about Lori Klausutis than Bill’o the clown does about Andrea Mackris. A compare and contrast between Condit/Levy and Scarborough/Klausutis makes it obvious Joe had some “powers that be” help sweeping his situation under the rug and keeping him out from under a microscope he should have been under.

Kudos for stirring the pot?

So he should next have Perez Hilton on to be petty about Mika’s wardrobe?

Couldn’t FOOLberman find any Americans to criticize JoeScar?

This is like the Little Rascals. No adults. The kids are putting on a show!

m_mayhem said:
I don’t know what the Twitter argument was about but if Markos brought up the Lori Klausutis situation in any way, I can believe Scarborough did everything in his power to get Markos off of MSNBC and that the bosses would comply if Scarborough didn’t have the power to do it himself. It didn’t take much of a google search to find out enough about the Lori Klausutis situation to know that Scarborough has reason to be even more deathly afraid of questions being raised about Lori Klausutis than Bill’o the clown does about Andrea Mackris. A compare and contrast between Condit/Levy and Scarborough/Klausutis makes it obvious Joe had some “powers that be” help sweeping his situation under the rug and keeping him out from under a microscope he should have been under.

It was about Klausutis and yes that is exactly the reason why, that case was either botched so bad that he got off or there was willful influence on the part of the coroner who lost his license a couple of years later for fixing cases. Joe doesn’t want anyone talking about that. All that talk last year about Scarborough might run for President anyone who knows anything about the Lori Klausutis case knows he will never run for office again in his life.

It’s pretty telling when you type into google “Joe Scarborough” the first two things that come up after his name in the drop down box are “divorce” and “scandal”, a couple of searches down is “dead intern” everyone is talking about it but Joe wants that talk silenced and quick.

Sanders Youth said:
It was about Klausutis and yes that is exactly the reason why, that case was either botched so bad that he got off or there was willful influence on the part of the coroner who lost his license a couple of years later for fixing cases. Joe doesn’t want anyone talking about that. All that talk last year about Scarborough might run for President anyone who knows anything about the Lori Klausutis case knows he will never run for office again in his life.

It’s pretty telling when you type into google “Joe Scarborough” the first two things that come up after his name in the drop down box are “divorce” and “scandal”, a couple of searches down is “dead intern” everyone is talking about it but Joe wants that talk silenced and quick.

The Lori Klausutis/Joe Scarborough case makes Bill O’Reilly/Andrea Mackris look like the Anthony Weiner thing, a bunch of nothing. Keep up the good work Bill!

Oh, come now. If Ted Kennedy can recover from actually killing a girl; surely Scarborough can recover from NOT having killed a girl. Lean forward.

GoneFishing said:
I am no fan of morning joe, but the claim Joe Scarborough holds editorial control over network booking makes no sense, and personally I find it hard to believe. But the assertion has been made, and the question stands; Does Joe hold that kind of power at MSNBC? I would need more than a clam by Moulitsas that he does to believe it, and if so, why.

It isn’t about Scarborough having editorial control it is about the brass at MSNBC not wanting the words Lori Klausitis mentioned in the same breath as Joe Scarborough, cause they know if that becomes mainstream and people start asking questions about it again, Joe is done.

Sean68 said:
Oh, come now. If Ted Kennedy can recover from actually killing a girl; surely Scarborough can recover from NOT having killed a girl. Lean forward.

Maybe so Ted Kennedy should have gone to jail and never been the Liberal Lion he became, but he is dead. Joe is very much alive and I guess, at least what people tell me a respected host at MSNBC.

Sanders Youth said:
Maybe so Ted Kennedy should have gone to jail and never been the Liberal Lion he became, but he is dead. Joe is very much alive and I guess, at least what people tell me a respected host at MSNBC.

I appreciate your honesty. But let me ask you in all sincerity, do you really think Joe Scarborough was directly responsible for this girl’s death? Who has a greater interest in seeing justive done than this girl’s family? Why aren’t they screaming bloody murder?

Sanders Youth said:
It isn’t about Scarborough having editorial control it is about the brass at MSNBC not wanting the words Lori Klausitis mentioned in the same breath as Joe Scarborough, cause they know if that becomes mainstream and people start asking questions about it again, Joe is done.

Perhaps, I really do not know enough about the facts to comment on the death of Ms Klausitis or surrounding events.

The issue with Markos tho is another matter. He stated plainly that Joe has editorial veto power of who does, and who does not get on the air. That is a very provocative and damning accusation to any news organization, and one I would think MSNBC would want to squash as quickly as possible. Personally I just do not see it, and think Markos and Olberman were just slinging mud because they could…but slinging in earnest just the same.

LOL!

Have any of you listened to this guy?

Is he a little Olbermann puppet, or what?

His SOROS-FUNDED, Left-Wing HATE-SITE is the home of all those ill-informed, easily-persuaded Progressives.

Take a good look & listen at to this guy…Is this who you’re going to allow to take over our country?

2012 – Vote GOP & End the Democratic – Socialist COUP!
- and the Obama DEPRESSION, as well!

That’s essentially what Keith’s new show is all about. With no one to keep him in check it’s going to be a vicious, left wing smear machine every night of the week. Pure venom. But since no one watches that channel I doubt it will make much difference.

Sean68 said:
I appreciate your honesty. But let me ask you in all sincerity, do you really think Joe Scarborough was directly responsible for this girl’s death? Who has a greater interest in seeing justive done than this girl’s family? Why aren’t they screaming bloody murder?

Well I don’t really know and I am not sure anyone does, that is the problem, the case was quickly resolved without a lot of real investigation, Scarborough was gearing up for a reelection campaign and soon after this he said he would not seek a second term, there are a lot of unanswered questions.

GoneFishing said:
Perhaps, I really do not know enough about the facts to comment on the death of Ms Klausitis or surrounding events.

The issue with Markos tho is another matter. He stated plainly that Joe has editorial veto power of who does, and who does not get on the air. That is a very provocative and damning accusation to any news organization, and one I would think MSNBC would want to squash as quickly as possible. Personally I just do not see it, and think Markos and Olberman were just slinging mud because they could…but slinging in earnest just the same.

As I said in the upthread I don’t think that is true, and actually I don’t think Markos or Keith thinks that is true either I think they both know what really happened, the NBC brass didn’t want anyone to talk about this at all so they quickly banned Markos from appearing and that was that. This is the elephant in the room that NBC doesn’t want anyone discussing.

Sean68 said:
I appreciate your honesty. But let me ask you in all sincerity, do you really think Joe Scarborough was directly responsible for this girl’s death? Who has a greater interest in seeing justive done than this girl’s family? Why aren’t they screaming bloody murder?

At the time the Klausutis family were screaming bloody murder, Scarborough’s people put out a press release saying that Lori Klausutis had a medical history which included a stroke and other health issues and the family wrote a letter to the local paper demanding that they retract the statement and that it wasn’t true, which they later did. I honestly don’t know what happened with them or why they didn’t pursue it. People have often said that the only person that was glad 911 happened was Gary Condit, but the Scarborough affair took place in the summer of 2001 so I guess you can make that two people, I really think September 11th took the focus off of this story, never to return.

Zakk said:
“Damn, I missed Countdown. I hope Olbermann, Markos and Michael Moore were able to find some common ground!”

Algore, being the wild and crazy guy he is, took that chance.

It could have been a bloodbath what with all the diversity.

For a show the wingnuts say nobody watches Mediate seems to have at least two stories a day on what’s on.

BFD said:
No one cares what these two losers say. They were kicked of TV for a reason.

People, if you don’t post in these Olby threads they wont continue. We hold the power.

Move along. :)

Keep telling yourself that.

When these two guys are talking to each other on TV, and when you count all the viewers of this show, what do you call it? 

Just what you’re seeing, “a two way conversation.”  Markos + Keith + 0 viewers = Markos & Keith. 

(Markos to Keith, “I love you, you love me, and we’re all we’ve got to see!”)