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Keith Olbermann and Kos Take Hard Shots at Joe Scarborough

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Yesterday was a tough day to be Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough, as political pundits were taking shots at him left and…left. The subject was Joe’s assertion that the media slept through the Joe Sestak controversy (an assertion with which I strongly disagree). First, DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas attacked Scarborough via Twitter, and on last night’s Countdown, MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann launched a veiled, but very nasty, attack on him.

Scarborough and Moulitsas started out having a fairly reasoned discussion, but it got ugly fast as Moulitsas started to reference unfounded rumors about Scarborough’s time as a Congressman (the Twitter back-and-forth is up on their accounts).

Then, there’s Keith Olbermann, who conspicuously doesn’t name Scarborough as he trashes him on last night’s Countdown. At the 5:21 mark in this clip, he says:

“I heard a charge today that the media has been asleep on this story since it began. How much traction will Fox News, and people like those who made that charge, who do cheap impressions of Fox News…and the political party that they serve, how much mileage will they get out of this?”



The idea of collegial criticism has been a flashpoint for MSNBC. Scarborough has publicly criticized Olbermann before, both by name and not, and he and Donny Deutsch have each been disciplined for criticizing the Countdown host. Scarborough’s criticisms, though, were always rather narrow and substantial, whereas this shot by Keith cuts wide and deep.

In fairness to Keith, this may be MSNBC’s failing. If he wants to call Scarborough a GOP shill, he ought to be able to do it by name, and to his face. If he has a case to make, let him make it, and let Scarborough respond. It was not long ago that Joe was fending off attacks on his bona fides from the right.

Personally, I believe in confronting conflicts head-on. I’ve called Scarborough out on Twitter before, but never felt the need to question his right to be on the air, or to evoke a sad tragedy. I also believe that colleagues can disagree openly, and do so in a way that allows them to remain friends.

On the Sestak story, I disagree strongly with Scarborough’s “media malpractice” assertion. The press consistently questioned both Sestak and the White House right up until the full explanation was given. There was never any let-up, but you can only run the same question mark so many times.

Going forward, it looks like Republican political figures, and not the MSM, will be throwing cold water on Sestak-gate.

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  • Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers

    I have been reading snide comments about the dead intern from Fox News groupies for years. I probably would have never heard about the story otherwise.

  • felixw

    Typical left wing ploy. Attack the messenger; never respond to the message. Reduce every political issue to personal attacks. Smear first; ask questions later.

  • SteveMG

    For Olbermann to accuse Scarborough of uncritically repeating Republican of Fox News talking points is frankly astonishing on several levels. One, Scarborough has repeatedly criticized the Limbaughs and Becks and other on the right for their extremist language and tactics. Repeatedly. Second, he’s attacked the Washington Republicans for their misfeasance and malfesance. Repeatedly. And, third he went after Bush quite hard over a number of issues – Iraq, spending and the general incompetence of that Administration. Repeatedly.

    Olbermann’s accusation has no merit. None. Scarborough directs more criticism at the right in one week than Olbermann has directed at the left for the past half decade.

    More important, whenever an MSNBC employee has been attacked, Olbermann has been quite quick to come to their defense. Not so here as we see the open conflict of interest that he has with Kos emerging. Moulitsas smears against a fellow MSNBC employee merits condemnation from Olbermann. Yeah, let’s all wait for it.

    Olbermann needs to be reminded that his professional loyalty is to MSNBC and not the DailyKos.

    Let’s see if Phil Griffin has the guts to rein Mr. Olbermann in. I say no but we’ll see.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Its pretty pathetic that it took the WH, months and months to come up with the Clinton lie and Tommy Boy believes it. Case closed.

  • TROLLING4LIBS

    Well there you have it folks the vile, deplorable, snake Markos, and Olbermann says nothing. Yet he attacks the likes of Beck and Limbaugh , for their commentary and comments. Good night and good luck.Lol

  • http://www.sailrabbits.com Magister

    I think it would’ve been perfectly fair for Olbermann to ask the author for his opinion about Scarborough’s position without naming Joe, but the cheap shot was over the line and perhaps as an illustration of how unnecessary the remark was to the question, the guest obviously didn’t know to whom he had referred.

  • SteveMG

    The fact that some in the press have asked questions about the Sestak controversy – and been stonewalled by the White House – is not the same thing as investigating and reporting on the matter. Look at the coverage on this controversy for the past 6 months on the cable and network news. Where has it been?

    The fact that Tommy Christopher and a few other reporters may have asked Gibbs about the allegation is again different than the major media covering the claims. Heck, it’s been 6 months and we only now learned that Clinton was involved? Somebody’s been asleep.

  • Barney

    “”The press consistently questioned both Sestak and the White House right up until the full explanation was given. There was never any let-up, but you can only run the same question mark so many times.”"

    Bullshit!!!! Christopher…you moronic child..how do you dispute the position that the media slept through the Setak affair?? The only media outlets reporting on this since it was broken back in February were Fox, conservative talk radio, and right-leaning blogs. It wasn’t until the leftard Specter supports brought it up out of desperation, that the corrupt, fucking poodles in tyhe MSM dutifully responded ..probably on Gibbs’ instructions

    On Morning Joe, whenever he brought it up recently, the libtards media types would only say that they didn;t think it happened when questioned by Scarborough on it.

  • Jelperman

    Scarborough might have a point were it not for the fact that he helped peddle a lot of innuendo about Vince Foster, implying that Hillary Clinton killed him. Someone gave him a taste of his own medicine and he’s crying like they rubbed sand in his vagina.

    Awwwww, what’s wrong Joe? Does your pussy still hurt?

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    People of the right unite. You folks need to adopt union thug tactics. Find Olberman and Markos houses and surround them with demonstrators. Follow them wherever they go. Trace back to the people they hung with in school. Find out what crazy left organizations they belonged to. Scare the crap out of them.

  • Barney

    “”Find Olberman and Markos houses and surround them with demonstrators”"

    ..or we can move in next door to them

  • Jim R

    I found the attacks on Joe absolutely despicable and I say that as someone who thinks he’s mostly wrong and does overly rely on Republican talking points sometimes, even allowing that he’s one of the few on the right demonstrating intellectual honesty and taking on demagogues in his own party.

    I think guys like Markos and Keith – and I’ve been a fan of both – are getting increasingly shrill and mean-spirited as Obama turns out to be only the latest Democratic sellout to the rich and powerful to be portrayed by the right as some kind of tax and spend tribune of the poor and shiftless.

  • lonestar77

    Tommy wrote:
    “The subject was Joe’s assertion that the media slept through the Joe Sestak controversy (an assertion with which I strongly disagree).”

    Shocking. If one media person asked one question, that’d be too much for a hard left ideologue like you Tommy. If Obama were a Republican, this issue would have been a newscast leading “scandal”…and you know it, but your hard left ideology won’t allow you to admit it. BTW, does Olby pay you to be his personal public relations guy? You kiss his butt & defend him every chance you get.

  • SteveMG

    Who has challenged or criticized his own side more? Who has broken more with his ideological allies? Who has been more willing to criticize his own side’s over-the-top rhetoric?

    Keith Olbermann versus the left? Or Joe Scarborough versus the right?

    Olbermann has no ground whatsoever to stand on. None.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    Six months after the story broke the WH uncover’s Bubba’s involvement. Wonder what the luch conversation between Obama and Clinton was about? Just two guys shootin the shit.

  • TROLLING4LIBS

    This WH is a absolute joke, regardless of a crime or not, during the healhcare debate they wanted Clinton to campaign, as well as pre- election campaigning, everytime Obama has a problem they call Slick Willie. Obama has a WH full of of ex- Clinton staff and officials and you so called ” intellectual”liberals don’t see how amateur, and inexperienced this president is??

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    TROLLING4LIBS says:
    May 29, 2010 at 10:53 pm
    Sooo amateur that he has the staff of the president that presided over the largest economic expansion of the latter half of the 20th century working for him. Sooooo amateur that he waits to make decisions until he has all the necessary information rather than just blurting things out like “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction” without any factual proof. Sooo inexperienced that he still has high approval ratings in other countries. Wait, I didn’t help you at all, did I?

  • TROLLING4LIBS

       Based on your history of posts, I’m sure you would think it doesn’t make sense. That water bucket has got to be getting really heavy by now.

  • Sunnyr

    The DailyKosTard dude is a MAGGOT who resides in the same pile of warm *hit as the Dung Beetle, Keith Olbermann. These two despicable *ickheads are two peas in a pod. I am not a Mourning Joe fan, but he should tell them to go straight to Hell.

  • roxsteady

    Forget about MSNBC going after Keith. His show gets tripple the ratings in just 1 hour that Scarborough gets in 3 hours. Scarborough was also forced to go on twitter last week and clarify remarks he made about Rand Paul going on Rachel Maddow’s show. Oddly enough, Paul was on Scarborough’s show the same day he then went on Maddow and made news. Clearly Phil Griffin was not pleased. Morning Joe is an awful show and he constantly makes an ass of himself and has to apologize. His meltdowns have become predictable and embarrassing. They should cancel Morning Joe. There’s a reason he’s on in the morning. Because he can’t cut it in primetime. Oh, and I’m glad Markos nailed his ass! Let’s see if Joe has the same phony outrage next week as this Mark Kirk story heats up. Apparently he’s been caught lying about his military record too. What do you have to say about that Jethro?

  • Newsjunky

    $10 Joe is off the air Tuesday and maybe Wednesday.

  • plep

    Non-story. Move on.

    It is interesting, though, how a Dan Abrams website pits the ultimate msnbc Libs against the ultimate msnbc RINO.

    Hey Dan !!! … I’m sure that deep-down you have some journalistic integrity. I’ve seen flashes of it from you … you can do it, man …

  • Noelle360

    Wow! No wonder the Republican party produces politicians like President Bush and Gov. Palin… you people are straight up stupid. Your inability to convey rational thought or reason is stunning. You use the same old talking points, not fact, just opinion. You never bring anything of substance in place of the policy that you disagree with. You sit behind your computers (usually getting drunk) and type talking points that you obviously pull from your ass. You really do embarrass the rest of the citizens in this country who are intelligent. No wonder the other nations believe our brain trust has been depleted with the likes of you idiots. Wow!

  • Rogue-Comic

    Noelle360, your post at 3:14 am is quit inflammatory and a bit self-incriminating/hypocritical. You offered no substance other than accusations without any evidence to back them up. By your own standards, you’re no better than what you accuse others of.

  • sarainitaly

    Apparently Olby got his panties in a bunch that Joe was picking on his boyfriend Markos, so he had to lash out.

    Perhaps someone from MSNBC did cover the Sestak story, but since no one watches msnbc how would anyone know?

    SteveMG says:
    May 29, 2010 at 8:37 pm
    Your comments are so spot on.

    The press consistently questioned both Sestak and the White House right up until the full explanation was given. There was never any let-up, but you can only run the same question mark so many times.

    Honestly, how much actual digging has anyone done on this story? And how many in the media are now willing to accept the WH memo on this story? Does merely asking Gibbs about this constitute investigative journalism? Apparently the pressure on Gibbs wasn’t that intense, since it took four months for them to concoct a story.

    Who in the media, besides Byron York, discovered that Sestak was supposedly offered a position he would not even be eligible to hold, while serving as a Rep.?

    Who in the media is asking why the memo states that “Efforts were made in June and July of 2009 to determine whether Congressman Sestak would be interested in service…” but supposedly it was on phone call, lasting less than one minute between Sestak and Clinton? But yet the memo states efforts lasted for two months?

    Is anyone going after Sestak to determine why he claimed repeatedly for four months that it was a high ranking federal job that he was offered, by someone in the White House and now he is towing the WH line, and backtracking?

    “Yesterday was a tough day to be Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough, as political pundits were taking shots at him left and…left. ” – I doubt Joe Sco felt a thing from those two left wing loonies.

    And I don’t think Mukasey making a couple of comments, live on the air, without doing any investigation is really going to damper this story.

  • sarainitaly

    I forgot to link this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJLejs_0ZR0&feature=player_embedded

    It shows people asking Gibbs and Sestak about this.

  • TfT

    Pretty funny and typical that Tommy thinks the media actively covered Sestakgate. Made me laugh this morning.

    The coverage has been minimal and now Tommy and the left have bought the Clinton story hook, line, and sinker further demonstrating that the media is sleeping through Sestakgate.

    Where is your story about Romanoff? There is a pattern here that Tommy and the left are ignoring.

    If this were a republican issue Tommy would be screeching from the top of his lungs — Liar, Liar pants on fire, but it’s teh One and his buds so Tommy just drinks the kool aide. Funny stuff.

  • sarainitaly

    Romanoff, and also Blago. Aren’t Obama and Rahm at the center of that Senate Seat scandal as well?

  • TfT

    Right Sarainitaly — there is a pattern, but Tommy and the lib crew fail to see it, chose not to see it, don’t report on it, don’t investigate it….but Tommy still thinks the media has actively covered Sestakgate. Again, funny as all get out.

    When will Olbermann get a public spanking from MSNBC management? Or will he? He seems to run the place over there, management seems to jump at his every wish and whim, so we will see if the same standard applied to Joe will be applied to Keith — I am of course betting against this. Olberloon is in charge which is why MSNBC=meltdown.

  • sarainitaly

    word.

    ;O)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Steele/1147844375 Chuck Steele

    ?

  • JohnSimpson

    KO, Joe is on your network. say it to his face, you coward!

  • JohnSimpson

    The_Reasonable_Lib says:
    May 29, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    TROLLING4LIBS says:
    May 29, 2010 at 10:53 pm
    Sooo amateur that he has the staff of the president that presided over the largest economic expansion of the latter half of the 20th century working for him. Sooooo amateur that he waits to make decisions until he has all the necessary information rather than just blurting things out like “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction” without any factual proof. Sooo inexperienced that he still has high approval ratings in other countries. Wait, I didn’t help you at all, did I?”

    Not at all.

    Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940
    By Julia A. Seymour
    Business & Media Institute
    1/8/2010 11:03:00 AM

    As for the deficit, CBO shows that over the first three years of the Obama Presidency, 2009-2011, the federal government will borrow an estimated $3.7 trillion. THAT IS MORE THAN THE ENTIRE ACCUMULATED NATIONAL DEBT FOR THE FIRST 225 YEARS OF U.S. HISTORY.

    Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget

    $3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swift
    February 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau
    Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion

    And now you have to use his ratings in foreign countries to show he is popular???

    LMAO

  • writer

    Noelle, you blast the right for not dealing in facts, then start name calling and accusing posters of being drunk Is that what you call acting rationally and dealing in facts? Are you right there with with each and every one of the people you’re lambasting, breathalyzer in hand? But I digress. Olbermann calls the shots at MSNBC, and if Scarborough keeps saying things KO doesn’t like, he’s history. That’s Keith’s idea of free speech.

  • JohnSimpson

    Sooooo amateur that he waits to make decisions until he has all the necessary information rather than just blurting things out like “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction” without any factual proof. ”

    Really? Only Bush believed that?

    From Sandy Berger, document thief and President Clinton’s National Security Advisor:

    “Imagine the consequences if Saddam fails to comply and we fail to act. Saddam will be emboldened, believing the international community has lost its will. He will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. And some day, some way, I am certain, he will use that arsenal again, as he has ten times since 1983.” – Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University, February 18, 1998

    Madeleine Albright, President Clinton’s Secretary of State:

    “Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.” – Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University, February 18, 1998

    “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
    - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
    - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
    - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

    “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
    - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    “Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
    - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    “There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
    - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

  • genius

    Noelle360 and roxsteady,
    I’m fairly new to this site and I think the brief articles are insightful, but I can’t believe the trolls that visit on the comments section. Something’s just not right about that to me… I know it’s a holiday weekend, but at this point I can no longer consider it a typo. It’s a constant tea party invasion. Hey it’s a holiday weekend so I’m gonna pop a brewsky and just hang out at home with good food and good tunes.
    Newsjunky, I didn’t forget about you, I’ll call you on that, and I’ll raise you by five. If we could be so lucky. Now lets get to work on launching uncle Pat screeching Buchanan from EMFS that airs before 6:00 pm est.
    Cheers!

  • notsofast

    genius says:
    May 30, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    You can go back to putting your nose up Barry’s arse, now, troll.

  • BowenIsland

    genius says:
    May 30, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    Noelle360 and roxsteady,

    I think we have just witnessed what passes as the liberals mating ritual, insults and alcohol.

  • OxyCon

    I always get a chuckle whenever Keith Obamamann has the DailyKos kid on, since Muolitsas is basically Obamamann’s defacto program director. If you want to know what Bath Tub Boy will be shrieking about on any set day, just go and read DailyKos or HuffPo and look for the craziest blog postings, or the ones with the most hateful comments.
    MessNBC should change the show’s name to “DailKos’ Countdown with Useful Idiot”. That would be truth in advertising.

  • jrcmi

    How much coverage ANY given story receives is, by its nature, subjective. I heard about this one over and over, from left and right – despite the lack of anything new to say about it.

    Who says KO was referring only to Joe? Righties often claim “cover-up” for any story they deem worthy of full-time, front-page coverage. They invariably involve real or alleged Dem/lib persons or conduct, the Sestak matter included.

    HERE’S a matter that deserves more “coverage”: Why do “neo-conmen” like JohnSimpleton cut-n-paste right-wing talking points and present them as their own? Do they honestly think we’ll believe THEY did such in-depth scholarship – or are even capable of doing so?

    “Plagiarism” is an ugly word but, in this case, it fits.

    All of the Dem quotes in “his” post are pre-Bush. Clinton did some saber-rattling but had the good sense not to stumble into an enormously costly – in lives and treasure – and illegal war. The Saddam/WMD chatter INCREASED under Dumbya. He used it as pretext to invade Iraq, acountry totally uninvolved with 9/11. Fools rush in. . . .

  • jrcmi

    a country

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cathy-Sample/100000532466287 Cathy Sample

    my comment is not in reference to the above by mr. christianson but to one that goes back a ways. that “article” did however include keith and dan a. in it,the other”article, t.c derided keith for a rather long speech in which t.c. claimed keith made many thinly veiled references to dan’s hair,uh, deficiencies. he meticulously exposed each hair related pun. i guess i just wasn’t paying attention to keith when he was saying it, but t.c. laid it all out in the open. i had no idea previously there was anything amiss with dan’s hair. i just thought he was a handsome man i’ve had my eye on for years. he should whack t.c. upside the head with a two-by- four for laying wide open something dan’s uncomfortable with. and,t.c. you were way more hurtful than keith at least he disguised his snark. you jerk.

  • NOTcrazylikeFOX

    Can’t MSNBC find a way to have these two get along? I enjoy both Keith and Joe’s programs, so it pretty much sucks to see them jawing at each other constantly. As much of a fan I have been of Keith’s, I also find it extremely unfair for him to be able to go after Joe and Donny, like he has in the past, and to not get in trouble, but when one of them criticize him, they get a slap on the wrist or even kicked off from being able to do their own programs. It’s just patently unfair, no matter how much somebody enjoys watching either one of them. I think the obvious case here is that Phil Griffin makes the decisions for MSNBC and he does a terrible job at it. He covers up for Olbermann and backs him up no matter what, but punishes other employees who criticize him. MSNBC needs to either find a way to get rid of Griffin or change their policies so that they don’t cater to a certain employee. It’s as simple as that.

  • writer

    Olbermann is a bully who calls the shots at MSNBC. Bottom line, if Scarborough keeps saying things Keith doesn’t like, he can clean out his desk.

  • drhu

    You know Keith Olbermann…really who cares what he thinks? What kind of credibility can a failed sports announcer posses? He went and kissed the Presidents ring after the inauguration and now he is one of his Nazgul who do his bidding no matter how sordid the affair.

  • jrcmi

    “Olbermann is a bully who calls the shots at MSNBC. ”

    Corporate parent GE might disagree with that assertion.

    “What kind of credibility can a failed sports announcer posses[s]?”

    Ask Brian Kilmeade.

  • drhu

    Hey at least Brian behaves as though he is a sane individual. Keith Olbermann could be mistaken for someone on a bad acid trip on any given night.

  • Penguin60

    “Sooooo amateur that he waits to make decisions until he has all the necessary information rather than just blurting things out like “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction” without any factual proof.”

    You are so right…..hmmmm, seem to remember some dolt calling cops stupid before knowing all the facts. Must of been Bush/Cheney/Palin….take your pick.

  • jrcmi

    “at least Brian behaves as though he is a sane individual. ”

    More like a COMATOSE individual.

    KO’s occasional anger appears far more genuine than Glenn Beck’s Vick’s VapoRub-induced tears (he puts it under his eyes to help him cry).

    Complaints about KO seldom include examples of actual errors of fact on his part. His recent misconstrued “Ark” joke was the first boo-boo he’s made in quite a while . . . and it was a JOKE!.

    When he gets something wrong he promptly corrects it on the show. Fakes News, on the other hand, NEVER gets anything wrong. As if.

  • NOTcrazylikeFOX

    “Hey at least Brian behaves as though he is a sane individual.”

    No, he doesn’t. One half of Bert and Ernie is a far-right, racist douchebag and the other is just a lanky doofus. Bert doesn’t know his elbow from his @ss.

    “Complaints about KO seldom include examples of actual errors of fact on his part. His recent misconstrued ‘Ark’ joke was the first boo-boo he’s made in quite a while . . . and it was a JOKE!.”

    Yes, exactly. There, actually, was no mistake there. As you stated, it was a joke. The way far-right blogs like OlbermannWatch put it, they seem to assume that Olbermann thought the Ark was in Arizona when he was pointing out that the teabagger thought he found the Ark in Arizona. Olbermann never said anything wrong.

  • NOTcrazylikeFOX

    Correction: After looking at the video, I realized Olbermann mentioned the animals coming out of the ark, referencing Noah’s Ark instead of the Ark of the Covenant. My mistake.

  • glenn113

    I’m still perplexed as to why MSNBC has a right-wing hack anchoring one of their programs.

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