Hey TAXPAYERS!

How does it feel working 2 and 3 jobs to support the rebuilding of Afghanistan?

That’s Barack Obama who’s taking your money to rebuild Afghanistan!!

You can argue about the pace but President Obama just laid a plan to END the Afghan war responsibly. You can’t be upset about the debt and want us to stay there another ten years.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Hey TAXPAYERS!

How does it feel working 2 and 3 jobs to support the rebuilding of Afghanistan?

That’s Barack Obama who’s taking your money to rebuild Afghanistan!!

Hey taxpayers, how does it feel like having to still clean up Bush’s mess.

Yoda002 said:
Hey taxpayers, how does it feel like having to still clean up Bush’s mess.

Yodel, you forget…it’s been 2 1/2 years since the Democratic Congress / Bush mess!

“Don’t make me send Seal Team 6 back up ins, Pakistan”

Obama is only spewing this for his own political career!!! Nothing new here folks..move along and don’t believe the lies you are told!!!!

Say, when will be hearing from the SILENT LEFT about the war president’s TEPID withdrawl?

WHERE’S THE OUTRAGE – YOU PROGRESIVE HYPOCRITS!!

If this were Bush, you’d be SCREAMING!

Play politics with our troops much, Obummer?

This is just another step down the road that leads away from American Exceptionanalism and towards a “one world” solution that 0-bow-ma Hussein would just love to have because the Muslim Brotherhood could take over the whole middle east and where will we be? Oh that’s right retreating like cowards until the day that they come knocking on our doorstep and then 0-bow-ma Hussein will give them the keys to the front gate. What a joke this guy is I can not wait until he gets booted out on his butt in 2012 thank you.

He says that as the troops come home he will be completely focused on domestic problems. Translation: as Troops come home, “I will be 100% focused on getting re-elected”.

It’s all well and good Obama but where the heck are the jobs?? What are you going to do about our unstable and deteriorating economy? Why are you focused on every other nation but our own?

LoyalOpposition said:
It’s all well and good Obama but where the heck are the jobs?? What are you going to do about our unstable and deteriorating economy? Why are you focused on every other nation but our own?

He’s SUING Boeing, so they’ll move their factories to China!

The question really should be WHY WOULD ANYONE VOTE FOR THIS GUY AGAIN?

This is obviously a small political withdrawal. I think Obama would like to withdraw more but he doesn’t want Afghanistan to fall to the Taliban before the next election.
I’m confident if he wins re-election he will bring all our boys home in short time. I know, I’m cynical.
I hope it helps his polls numbers but I doubt it. :)

Anyway, congrats to the 10,000 kids who are coming home this year!

Obama has one of the most messed up versions of foreign policy out there.

Let’s say he really does want to pull out troops (against the General’s command – fave move by Obama mind you), then why the heck are we in Libya? Obama makes no sense.

2012 will be too awesome for words. Can’t wait!

NORBIT Jr. said:
Hey TAXPAYERS!

How does it feel working 2 and 3 jobs to support the rebuilding of Afghanistan?

That’s Barack Obama who’s taking your money to rebuild Afghanistan!!

norBUTT–I seem to remember the Prez applauding a woman for working three jobs………..
Or, was that W?

NORBIT Jr. said:
He’s SUING Boeing, so they’ll move their factories to China!

So many political ads, so little time.

These kinds of politically-driven announcements do Obama more harm than good. If we need troops in Afghanistan, keep them there. If we don’t need them, bring them home. But to predict how many troops we will need during the middle of next year’s Presidential campaign is a phony exercise. Does Obama have a crystal ball or tarot deck that allows him to predict the next year? If you were a tribal leader in Afghanistan, are you more or less likely to help the Americans, if you know they will be gone in an year?

Moves like this — clearly driven by political expediency and NOT by military objectives– show (again) the incompetence of the man in the Oval Office. There is nothing to be gained, and much to lose, by telegraphing your military moves a year in advance. The lowliest soldier on the ground can tell you that much.

But I guess this is what voters get when they elect a community organizer with zero real world experience into the most difficult political office in the world.

Glackin said:
norBUTT–I seem to remember the Prez applauding a woman for working three jobs………..Or, was that W?

Well then, it must have been President Karzai!

The TelePrompter-of-the United-States says:

“I surrender, of course”.

-0bama – Where were YOU when he hit the fan?-

felixw said:
These kinds of politically-driven announcements do Obama more harm than good. If we need troops in Afghanistan, keep them there. If we don’t need them, bring them home. But to predict how many troops we will need during the middle of next year’s Presidential campaign is a phony exercise. Does Obama have a crystal ball or tarot deck that allows him to predict the next year? If you were a tribal leader in Afghanistan, are you more or less likely to help the Americans, if you know they will be gone in an year?

Moves like this — clearly driven by political expediency and NOT by military objectives– show (again) the incompetence of the man in the Oval Office. There is nothing to be gained, and much to lose, by telegraphing your military moves a year in advance. The lowliest soldier on the ground can tell you that much.

But I guess this is what voters get when they elect a community organizer with zero real world experience into the most difficult political office in the world.

I know that we disagree on who we would vote for, but I genuinely appreciate your posts overall. This one was one of your best. Just thought you should know. :)

BFD said:
This is obviously a small political withdrawal. I think Obama would like to withdraw more but he doesn’t want Afghanistan to fall to the Taliban before the next election.I’m confident if he wins re-election he will bring all our boys home in short time. I know, I’m cynical.I hope it helps his polls numbers but I doubt it. :) Anyway, congrats to the 10,000 kids who are coming home this year!

got to like a man that votes for a president that plays political games with our troops lives

Really, people, can we talk?
lol

This guy – with his banana-republic policies – has no chance at being re-elected.
He may try to keep power by force, but I don’t think the military will back him up on that.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Yodel, you forget…it’s been 2 1/2 years since the Democratic Congress / Bush mess!

It was huge, huge, huge mess.

Our President reminds me of the 2 Lt who gave us an Intel Briefing before one of our combat missions.

While he was an “Officer and a Gentleman,” he also was a war pacifist and wore a “Black Armband” to give the briefing.

Needless to say, I do believe it was his last briefing, at least I never saw him again.

Our President seems to think that he can have it both ways, a warrior and a pacifist willing to drop everything and run.

Just my opinion!

Jaurez said:
You mean like he said he would do last election? Gawd, you’re a stupid troll as trolls go.

BFD is also sexist because apparently women aren’t in this fight too.

BFIdiot said:
I hope it helps his polls numbers but I doubt it. :)

From the same clown who said his re-election was sealed when “he” killed ubl. ROFLMBAO!!!!!

felixw said:
These kinds of politically-driven announcements do Obama more harm than good. If we need troops in Afghanistan, keep them there. If we don’t need them, bring them home. But to predict how many troops we will need during the middle of next year’s Presidential campaign is a phony exercise. Does Obama have a crystal ball or tarot deck that allows him to predict the next year? If you were a tribal leader in Afghanistan, are you more or less likely to help the Americans, if you know they will be gone in an year?

Moves like this — clearly driven by political expediency and NOT by military objectives– show (again) the incompetence of the man in the Oval Office. There is nothing to be gained, and much to lose, by telegraphing your military moves a year in advance. The lowliest soldier on the ground can tell you that much.

But I guess this is what voters get when they elect a community organizer with zero real world experience into the most difficult political office in the world.

And Bush didn’t go into Iraq for political reasons? He talked about it before becoming president.

I simply cannot stomach watching him any longer. I switched to HGTV and read the transcript later. He is such a phoney and an empty suit, that his words have no meaning to me;he is self-centered and egomaniacal. He is over exposed and refuses to act like a leader and instead acts like a manchild.

He is playing politics with our troops and shame on him and the idiot media for not calling him on the carpet for doing just that.

Yoda002 said:
And Bush didn’t go into Iraq for political reasons? He talked about it before becoming president.

If it was correct for Bush to go into Iraq, your argument is worthless. If it was wrong for Bush to go into Iraq, you are simply justifying bad behavior with another example of bad behavior — so your argument is still worthless. Try to use better logic next time.

felixw said:
These kinds of politically-driven announcements do Obama more harm than good. If we need troops in Afghanistan, keep them there. If we don’t need them, bring them home. But to predict how many troops we will need during the middle of next year’s Presidential campaign is a phony exercise. Does Obama have a crystal ball or tarot deck that allows him to predict the next year? If you were a tribal leader in Afghanistan, are you more or less likely to help the Americans, if you know they will be gone in an year?

Moves like this — clearly driven by political expediency and NOT by military objectives– show (again) the incompetence of the man in the Oval Office. There is nothing to be gained, and much to lose, by telegraphing your military moves a year in advance. The lowliest soldier on the ground can tell you that much.

But I guess this is what voters get when they elect a community organizer with zero real world experience into the most difficult political office in the world.

I got news for you that a lot of Republicans want a faster withdrawal.

It was the policy of the United States, as voted on by all 100 senators, and signed into law by President Clinton for regime change in Iraq. Bush did NOT invent WMD or the policy to change regimes in Iraq, so ofcourse it was a topic prior to Bush becoming President. It was Clinton’s foreign policy.

Yoda002 said:
And Bush didn’t go into Iraq for political reasons?

I can just see it…”I’m gonna start a war so vote for me!”

Funny, I don’t recall that happening, socky.

Oh danm,
I keep forgetting COUNTDOWN is back on TV!

LMAO!

WCinWI said:
I know that we disagree on who we would vote for, but I genuinely appreciate your posts overall. This one was one of your best. Just thought you should know. :)

Thanks for this comment — which means a lot coming across the political divide. We would all be better off – myself included – if people of differing views could have civil, thoughtful dialogue.

TfT said:
I simply cannot stomach watching him any longer. I switched to HGTV and read the transcript later. He is such a phoney and an empty suit, that his words have no meaning to me;he is self-centered and egomaniacal. He is over exposed and refuses to act like a leader and instead acts like a manchild.

He is playing politics with our troops and shame on him and the idiot media for not calling him on the carpet for doing just that.

I watched Dirty Dancing myself! :) You can predict what he will say/not say regardless of his talking points. Apparently he worked Green Energy into it. So obviously it was all political.

felixw said:
If it was correct for Bush to go into Iraq, your argument is worthless. If it was wrong for Bush to go into Iraq, you are simply justifying bad behavior with another example of bad behavior — so your argument is still worthless. Try to use better logic next time.

He talked about withdrawing the troops last year it wasn’t for political reasons. This the start of the transitioning out of Afghanistan.

You just can’t understand real logic.

felixw said:
Thanks for this comment — which means a lot coming across the political divide. We would all be better off – myself included – if people of differing views could have civil, thoughtful dialogue.

This coming from the genius that thinks Palin is running for president. That says a lot.

A vote for Democrats is a vote for America to BECOME GREECE!

Yoda002 said:
I got news for you that a lot of Republicans want a faster withdrawal.

Am I forced to agree with “lots of Republicans”? Or “lots of Democrats”? Look back at my original comment. I expressed no opinion on the level of troops needed in Afghanistan. I am in no position to make that kind of analysis — nor are you. All I said was (and pay close attention) is that it is foolish to predict NOW what our troop needs will be A YEAR FROM NOW. Did you get it this time?

Yoda002 said:
I got news for you that a lot of Republicans want a faster withdrawal.

Not in Afghanistan.

Oh please. I’m saying Obama is making a political move now so he has the political capital to accomplish his goal to end the war later.
Sure, that’s political but the alternate, like what O”Reilly and other chickenhawks are talking right now about to stay the course until we “win”. Unacceptable to me.
Damn right I will vote for him.

Geez, tough crowd. You think I would get some points for being honest instead of going into “RAH RAH, YAY OBAMA!!” mode.

And yeah, I meant to write “kids” instead of boys. I thought I did. Twas a slip. My apologies to the women folk.

Jaurez said:
I can just see it…”I’m gonna start a war so vote for me!”

Funny, I don’t recall that happening, socky.

He was talking about it. I know the righties have short term memory.

Glad we’re starting to get out of there.

Yoda002 said:
He talked about withdrawing the troops last year it wasn’t for political reasons.

How wise of you to conclude that a pronouncement made during last year’s election campaign had no connection with the election. And how wise of you to know the troop levels we need in 12 months time in Afghanistan.

Given your mind-reading and prophecy skills, can you tell me which horse will win in the third race at Hollywood Park tomorrow? I want to take advantage of your supernatural skills.

Jaurez said:
From the same clown who said his re-election was sealed when “he” killed ubl. ROFLMBAO!!!!!

Liar.
I don’t make presidential predictions. Way to early and I don’t want to look like the fools some of you will look like.

felixw said:
Am I forced to agree with “lots of Republicans”? Or “lots of Democrats”? Look back at my original comment. I expressed no opinion on the level of troops needed in Afghanistan. I am in no position to make that kind of analysis — nor are you. All I said was (and pay close attention) is that it is foolish to predict NOW what our troop needs will be A YEAR FROM NOW. Did you get it this time?

I agree with your general point. I would never try to make valid assertions since I’m not military minded. I offer opinions and that’s it. Does an athlete show his hand to his opponent? No. And as you said, you don’t make assertions (unless political) based on future conditions so far out. Left or Right – that’s not smart.

felixw said:
Am I forced to agree with “lots of Republicans”? Or “lots of Democrats”? Look back at my original comment. I expressed no opinion on the level of troops needed in Afghanistan. I am in no position to make that kind of analysis — nor are you. All I said was (and pay close attention) is that it is foolish to predict NOW what our troop needs will be A YEAR FROM NOW. Did you get it this time?

I don’t think you understand logic. You shouldn’t comment if you have no clue, but a lot of Republicans want a faster withdrawal. Transitioning takes time. Now do you understand.

Yoda002 said:
He was talking about it. I know the righties have short term memory.

Yea well obummer said he was going to close gitmo, end all of the wars, fix the economy etc, etc, etc.

“Just words!”

Yoda002 said:
He was talking about it. I know the righties have short term memory.

He talked about the Libyan war when as a candidate? Do provide the quote.

BFD said:
Liar.
I don’t make presidential predictions. Way to early and I don’t want to look like the fools some of you will look like.

That would be *too…..fool. :)

felixw said:
How wise of you to conclude that a pronouncement made during last year’s election campaign had no connection with the election. And how wise of you to know the troop levels we need in 12 months time in Afghanistan.

Given your mind-reading and prophecy skills, can you tell me which horse will win in the third race at Hollywood Park tomorrow? I want to take advantage of your supernatural skills.

We are constantly in an election cycle, so to think it was for political reasons is shameless on your part, especially when he went after Bin Laden instead of moving his attention to some place like Iraq.

Yoda002 said:
I don’t think you understand logic. You shouldn’t comment if you have no clue, but a lot of Republicans want a faster withdrawal. Transitioning takes time. Now do you understand.

I have already pointed out several logical fallacies in your line of thinking.

(1) Justifying Obama’s decision on the basis of what Bush might have done in Iraq is incoherent.
(2) Telling me that I can’t make a statement that goes against what “lots of Republicans” believe is equally incoherent
(3) Claiming that the President’s statement made during an election year could not have been made for political reasons is wishful thinking based on no facts.
(4) Claiming you know what troop levels will be needed in a year’s time is balderdash.

And then you come out criticizing MY logic. What a funny routine this is. Did you make it up yourself, or hire a comedy writer to create it for you?

Jaurez said:
Yea well obummer said he was going to close gitmo, end all of the wars, fix the economy etc

Every statement Obama says has an expiration date..
That’s all you need to know about Obama ( O-ne B-ig A-ss M-istake A-merica)

WCinWI said:
That would be *too…..fool. :)

Really, WC. Grammar/typo Nazi? I thought you were better than that?
I’m trying to do 3 things now, watch cable news, post here, and jobwork on my computer. Drinking a shake too.
I really don’t care about grammar.

I know the difference between to and too.
You are being to hard on me.

heh heh…I said hard on.

President Obama Withdrawal Of 33,000 Troops From Afghanistan By Next Summer

This is going to add to the unemployment rolls next year.

If you think unemployment is bad for the regular folks, Unfortunately for the returning GI it is much higher. Always has been, always will be.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Well then, it must have been President Karzai!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIjo-dWE1Jg

That don’t look like Karzai to me.
Like the song says, “He’s still the one!”

WCinWI said:
I agree with your general point. I would never try to make valid assertions since I’m not military minded. I offer opinions and that’s it. Does an athlete show his hand to his opponent? No. And as you said, you don’t make assertions (unless political) based on future conditions so far out. Left or Right – that’s not smart.

I agree. I am hesitant to offer any opinion on Afghanistan, and simply hope the President is relying on the best possible advice to make a decision. And I understand that Obama is under pressure to bring troops home – I have a close family member in Afghanistan right now. We would all like this war to come to an end. But it looks risky to be setting strict timetables so far in advance.

Thank God our troops are only going to have to deal with this guy for another year and a half. Our guys (and gals) have put so much on the line and to have to do it all without a real Commander and Chief is sad.
To make a decision like this for political favor is pathetic.
Congratulations to Jimmy Carter. He is now the nations second worst President in history.

WCinWI said:
He talked about the Libyan war when as a candidate? Do provide the quote.

I do have the quote.

One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as commander in chief. My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. If I have a chance to invade, if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.

Woodward and Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neil talked about it in their books too.

BatBoy said:
President Obama Withdrawal Of 33,000 Troops From Afghanistan By Next Summer

This is going to add to the unemployment rolls next year.

If you think unemployment is bad for the regular folks, Unfortunately for the returning GI it is much higher. Always has been, always will be.

I didn’t realize that foreign war was a Conservative jobs program!
That explains a lot!

BFD said:
Really, WC. Grammar/typo Nazi? I thought you were better than that?
I’m trying to do 3 things now, watch cable news, post here, and jobwork on my computer. Drinking a shake too.
I really don’t care about grammar.

I know the difference between to and too.
You are being to hard on me.

heh heh…I said hard on.

What type of shake? Whey?

3 months from now:

Is Rach on Current with Olbermann?

BFD said:
Really, WC. Grammar/typo Nazi? I thought you were better than that?
I’m trying to do 3 things now, watch cable news, post here, and jobwork on my computer. Drinking a shake too.
I really don’t care about grammar.

I know the difference between to and too.
You are being to hard on me.

heh heh…I said hard on.

And you used the wrong form again. :) *smoochies*

Chuck from Tacoma said:
Congratulations to Jimmy Carter. He is now the nations second worst President in history.

He can’t bump Reagan out of second.
W is still, hands down, the worst.

Have we ever had a more transparently, politically cynical President?

Yoda002 said:
I do have the quote.

One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as commander in chief. My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. If I have a chance to invade, if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.

Woodward and Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neil talked about it in their books too.

Nowhere is Libya mentioned. Huzzah!

NORBIT Jr. said:
3 months from now:

Is Rach on Current with Olbermann?

Checked out W’s tape? It made his ten best/worst boners list.

Glackin said:
I didn’t realize that foreign war was a Conservative jobs program!That explains a lot!

How many innocent families were killed today by the Obama Drones?

Progressives:
WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE – YOU HYPOCRITES!

If it were Bush, you’d be SCREAMING!

Jaurez said:
Yea well obummer said he was going to close gitmo, end all of the wars, fix the economy etc, etc, etc.

“Just words!”

You don’t tell the other side of the story. The Republicans were afraid to keep the inmates in maximum secure prisons. I guess they believe that they might be able to attain some super powers that will help them escape from prison. The Republicans don’t want the the economy to get better.

WCinWI said:
Nowhere is Libya mentioned. Huzzah!

I wasn’t talking about Libya. Try to keep up!!

WCinWI said:
And you used the wrong form again. :) *smoochies*

yer kiddin right?
Gosh, never let it be said that humor is lost on you.

OxyCon said:
Have we ever had a more transparently, politically cynical President?

Richard Milhous Nixon, “I have a plan to end the war. (1968).
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0309.mendacity-index.html
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0309.mendacity-index.html
Oxycone–”mendacity” ids fancy LYING.

Yodler002 said:
The Republicans

*drink*

It’s a kind of perverse irony going on here.

You look at the President these days, and he looks like he’s really had enough, and no longer wants to be there for a second term.
Then you look at the 70% of the voters who think the country’s going in the wrong direction, and agree with him!

LMAO!

I see the usual suspects are already bit chin about the decision to bring the troops home.

Why don’t you clowns haul your sorry arses OVER THERE!

felixw said:
I have already pointed out several logical fallacies in your line of thinking.

(1) Justifying Obama’s decision on the basis of what Bush might have done in Iraq is incoherent.
(2) Telling me that I can’t make a statement that goes against what “lots of Republicans” believe is equally incoherent
(3) Claiming that the President’s statement made during an election year could not have been made for political reasons is wishful thinking based on no facts.
(4) Claiming you know what troop levels will be needed in a year’s time is balderdash.

And then you come out criticizing MY logic. What a funny routine this is. Did you make it up yourself, or hire a comedy writer to create it for you?

Let point out my logic. And in the process I will school you up!.

1) I pointed out what Bush did and to say Obama did it political reasons is wrong.

2) I made a point that people on your side want the President to remove more troops too.

3) in fact a lot of Republicans were pushing for a surge in Afghanistan, Bush turned his attention away from that war. Obama raised the level of combat troops

4) There is never going to be perfect time to leave, but it needs to be done. You would still be fighting in Vietnam with that theory.

Jaurez said:
*drink*

Lets get the name right.

@ Skippy

Have you address the “misdemeanor” issue from before? I’m still waiting for the “I guess I was wrong, I’m sorry,” from you.

Oh, and if you think the people who support the Afgan conflict should “go” there, do you feel the same about the left and Lybia? What about Darfur?

ImNotBlue said:
@ Skippy

Have you address the “misdemeanor” issue from before? I’m still waiting for the “I guess I was wrong, I’m sorry,” from you.

Oh, and if you think the people who support the Afgan conflict should “go” there, do you feel the same about the left and Lybia? What about Darfur?

I just did in the appropriate thread.

Glackin said:
I didn’t realize that foreign war was a Conservative jobs program!That explains a lot!

you don’t get it!

republicans want the complete opposite of whatever President Obama does…. Ann Coulter their high priestess wants a complete withdrawal from Afghanistan… so I don’t understand why they are complaining about. they support the 1.5 trillion dollar war to rebuild Iraq because the hypocrites care so much about Iraq but are against removing a terrorist dictator in Libya. (Obama has no intention of rebuilding Libya) they had no problems when Bush normalized relations with that terrorist. so no matter what the President does they will find something to cry about

Obama has been rather constant on Afghanistan.

The people that are using the troops as political tools are the Obozo haters. No matter what he does with the troops, you people will use the troops as an excuse to say he’s using them wrong.

Some idiot here even said that unemployment is going to go up when the 33,000 troops come home. You can’t make that stuff up.

Political un-American attack dogs

NORBIT Jr. said:
How many innocent families were killed today by the Obama Drones?

Progressives:
WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE – YOU HYPOCRITES!

If it were Bush, you’d be SCREAMING!

Were you screaming when they were W’s bombs and drones?
If not, why are YOU screaming now?
You are not a hypocrite.
You are a fraud.
Just another nickel a post whore.
You’ll do whatever you get paid for.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Skippy

Have you address the “misdemeanor” issue from before? I’m still waiting for the “I guess I was wrong, I’m sorry,” from you.

Oh, and if you think the people who support the Afgan conflict should “go” there, do you feel the same about the left and Lybia? What about Darfur?

Are there ANY USA troops on Lybia?

How about Danfur? Any USA troops over there?

As far as I know, both are UN operations.

Yoda002 said:
Let point out my logic. And in the process I will school you up!.

1) I pointed out what Bush did and to say Obama did it political reasons is wrong.

2) I made a point that people on your side want the President to remove more troops too.

3) in fact a lot of Republicans were pushing for a surge in Afghanistan, Bush turned his attention away from that war. Obama raised the level of combat troops

4) There is never going to be perfect time to leave, but it needs to be done. You would still be fighting in Vietnam with that theory.

(1) Thanks for telling me what “my people” believe. I guess I don’t need to think for myself any more — thanks, but no thanks. I’ll let you delegate thinking to your political party if you so desire.

(2) As for Bush in Iraq….This has no relevance to the troops we will need next year in Afghanistan. There is zero connection here. I still have no clue why you keep referring to it.

(3) As to whether Obama made this decision for political reasons….well, it sure looks like it to me. And your claims to the contrary sound awfully hollow. There is no other reason why he would be stating TODAY what the troop levels need to be DURING NEXT YEAR ELECTION CAMPAIGN. But pardon me for pointing out the obvious….

(4) As to whether now is the perfect time to leave….I have no opinion on that matter. But Obama is not saying what we should be doing NOW. He is saying what we should be doing NEXT YEAR– hence the incoherence and obvious political nature of his statement.

Nacho said:
Obama has been rather constant on Afghanistan.

The people that are using the troops as political tools are the Obozo haters. No matter what he does with the troops, you people will use the troops as an excuse to say he’s using them wrong.

Some idiot here even said that unemployment is going to go up when the 33,000 troops come home. You can’t make that stuff up.

Political un-American attack dogs

Don’t you see? When the troops come home, it means they are automatically out of their enlistment contracts -so that is why they will join the ranks of the unemployed.

Brilliant logic, ain’t it?

What’s with the grey splotches in his hair? Is the hair person asleep at the switch?

You should fire him/her and just roll with what God gave you, Barack. You might get some gravitas out of it.

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Nacho said:
Obama has been rather constant on Afghanistan.

Sort of. It took him way too long to get to a position after he’d already taken one, but you’re right. He hasn’t been inconsistent. And he’s not now.

My concern is that the main reason we continue to bother with Afghanistan is that our problem exists next door in (or actually is) Pakistan. Meanwhile, Yemen, Somalia, etc roll on.

Did we go to Afghanistan to civilize it, or did we go there to kill the rats that were holing up there? We need to decide and commit to one or the other.

Pablo said:
Did we go to Afghanistan to civilize it, or did we go there to kill the rats that were holing up there? We need to decide and commit to one or the other.

BTW, there’s only one reason that question exists. Obama inherited it from Bush.

Skippy said:
When the troops come home, it means they are automatically out of their enlistment contracts -so that is why they will join the ranks of the unemployed.

No, it has exactly nothing to do with that, fooll. Change of station does exactly nothing to one’s enlistment status. Does it entertain you to come onto the internet and post shit you just made up after you loaded your bong? Do you think it entertains anyone else?

The only logical explanation in regards to skippy the troll is either he or his family or both are here illegally. His real name is Roberto, so…

OxyCon said:
Have we ever had a more transparently, politically cynical President?

Glackin said:
Richard Milhous Nixon, “I have a plan to end the war. (1968).
Oxycone–”mendacity” ids fancy LYING.

I’m not so sure Obama appreciates your help.

But this isn’t the first time Obama has been unfavorably compared to Nixon.

koolmoedee said:
republicans want the complete opposite of whatever President Obama does…. Ann Coulter their high priestess wants a complete withdrawal from Afghanistan… so I don’t understand why they are complaining about. they support the 1.5 trillion dollar war to rebuild Iraq because the hypocrites care so much about Iraq but are against removing a terrorist dictator in Libya. (Obama has no intention of rebuilding Libya) they had no problems when Bush normalized relations with that terrorist. so no matter what the President does they will find something to cry about

Unlike “you” people, we feel that republicans are allowed to have an opinion. We might not agree with them but we don’t hate them, malign them, call them names. So Ann thinks blah blah – good for Ann.

Here you go Pebbles!

BatBoy said:
President Obama Withdrawal Of 33,000 Troops From Afghanistan By Next Summer

This is going to add to the unemployment rolls next year.

If you think unemployment is bad for the regular folks, Unfortunately for the returning GI it is much higher. Always has been, always will be.

I hope you are so quit to scold this wingnut moron as you were trying to scold me for MOCKING HIM!

Go ahead, Pebbles!

Jaurez said:
The only logical explanation in regards to skippy the troll is either he or his family or both are here illegally. His real name is Roberto, so…

Did you find that ABC payment yet, Jeffy? or maybe not?

With you being so busy pulling more B S from your rear and your hallucinations.

Pablo said:
What’s with the grey splotches in his hair? Is the hair person asleep at the switch?

You should fire him/her and just roll with what God gave you, Barack. You might get some gravitas out of it.

.42 seconds in.

Allen West Reacts To Obama’s Speech: “One of The Things You Saw Tonight Was a Highly Politicized Mission Accomplished Speech”
“This ended up being more of a campaign speech more than really a strategy speech”

“When the president says we are gonna conduct this draw down from a position of strength, that is absolutely false because you have a very vicious and very determined enemy”

Skippythetroll said:
Did you find that ABC payment yet, Jeffy? or maybe not?

With you being so busy pulling more B S from your rear and your hallucinations.

You saying he did the interview for free? ROFLMBAO!!!!!

Jaurez said:
You saying he did the interview for free? ROFLMBAO!!!!!

Prove it.

You said he received payment. Show your proof.

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Obama is the Commander in Chief and he represented it well in this address.

Obamo, clearly recognizing as we all do that he won’t win re-election fairly in 2012, is now plotting ways to steal it.

This is so typical of Libs that this news causes a big ‘Ho-Hum.’

Yoda002 said:
You don’t tell the other side of the story. The Republicans were afraid to keep the inmates in maximum secure prisons. I guess they believe that they might be able to attain some super powers that will help them escape from prison. The Republicans don’t want the the economy to get better.

The Republicans? Bipartisan and Obama signed the bill prohibiting GITMO prisoners to be transferred to Thompson Correctional Facility. Read it and weep:

The Republican lawmakers noted that bipartisan congressional opposition to transferring Gitmo prisoners to Thomson has been consistent:

• On May 28, 2010, the House voted 282-131, with 114 Democrats joining 168 Republicans, in favor of an amendment to the Department of Defense (DOD) authorization bill that would prohibit the Administration from bringing any Gitmo terrorists into the United States.

• On June 30, 2010, the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice and Science, voted to appropriate $170 million for the federal Bureau of Prisons to purchase and run Thomson as a federal prison with language specifically prohibiting any federal funds from being used to move Gitmo terrorists to Thomson.

• On July 23, 2010, the Senate Appropriations Committee voted to appropriate $170 million for the federal Bureau of Prisons to purchase and run Thomson as a federal prison with language specifically prohibiting federal funds from being used to move Gitmo terrorists incarcerated inside the United States for detention.

• On July 28, 2010, the House voted 353-69 for an amendment to the Military Construction appropriations bill to prohibit any funds appropriated or otherwise made available to the Department of Defense to be used to renovate or construct any facility within the Continental United States for the purpose of housing any individual who has been detained, at any time after Sept. 11, 2001, at United States Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

• On Dec. 17, 2010, the House voted 341-48 in favor of the Department of Defense Authorization Act that included language (Section 1032) prohibiting the Gitmo terrorists from coming onto U.S. soil for any reason. President Obama signed the bill into law on Jan. 7, 2011 (P.L. 111-383).

http://www.pacc-news.com/3-30-11/thomson_prison3_30_11.html

One of these days, when he gives a speech that doesn’t focus on I ME MY, I will raise him up from manchild to man….but until then, he is still the child and empty suit, despite the media’s attempts to raise him up as brilliant and grown-up.

What a self-centered creep he is.

Nacho said:
Obama is the Commander in Chief and he represented it well in this address.

It’s really the rank hypocrisy of the Left that’s illuminating in all of this.

It seems the “Situational Morality” Democrats embrace reads something like this:

If they’re Bush’s drones killing innocent people in Afghanistan, he’s a mass-murderer and war criminal; if they’re Obama’s drones, he’s just cleaning up Bush’s mess. (Say Democrats, why don’t we ask the families of those killed if they can appreciate the nuance?)

Is this the type of character and integrity you want in the people elected to office?

2012 – Any Republican!

We have to support our President in this time of war – we gave George 2-3 years of that. Pres. Obama your time is up. End these wars.

Ten years. Ten years of waste and killing. There are no Al Qaeda in Afghanistan or Iraq (never were any there). Get out, get out now.

I understand the Afghans aren’t the brightest bulbs going but all we’re talking about is “fighting!” They’re supposed to be good at that. I find it hard to believe that the “good” afghans can not fight off and control the Taliban and al-queda, ESPECIALLY if we have them so diminished these days! If they cant, it’s cause they dont want to, and that would justify nuking the crap out of them if they cant hold off potential future threats. Yeah I know, they’ll be some woman and children yada yada yada, wtf ever!

So basically I might agree with the withdrawal, But there is a severe caveat: If the afghans fall and another al-queda/taliban threat evolves, we cant be expected to send over whole armies and do this all over again. As I just said, knock them back to the stone age. War over! Good guys win!

Leaving behind a decent size force to deal with festering threats would be the best option in order to not have to nuke them back into the stone age. But amazingly, no one, from BO on down mentions this option. It seems like just pulling out 100% of our troops without even asking if we can leave a base behind. Thats just plain wrong.

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President Obama Withdrawal Of 33,000 Troops From Afghanistan By Next Summer

Just in time for the 2012 election. Who’d have thought -0bama would have played politics with the lives of our men and women in the military? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT? (Hell, Stevie Wonder could see through this move.)