I put this in the same category of Obama’$ a Muslim.

Alan – Quiet Moron!

I have a serious question: When does the RECOVERY part of the Democrats’ “Summer of Recovery” Start????

LOL!!!

I guess we better enjoy this bigoted loudmouth while we still can since he’s gonna be kicked out of office come November.

I do not think Bush wanted 9/11 to occur but he was not intelligent enough to stop 9/11 as a consequence from the poor judgment of the Supreme Court. I truly believe if Gore was President 9/11 would have not occurred.

cuckoo…cuckoo…..cuckoo….

Is there a hospital big enough to hold all the crazies on the left?

FLORIDA, we are very embarrassed for you having him as a Representative!

PLEASE, VOTE HIM OUT!

Let the record show that Frannie couldn’t bring herself to say the obvious, “grayson is a loon!!”. Perhaps she agrees with him. Another fine piece of journOlism Frannie!!

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
I do not think Bush wanted 9/11 to occur but he was not intelligent enough to stop 9/11 as a consequence from the poor judgment of the Supreme Court. I truly believe if Gore was President 9/11 would have not occurred.

LOL….hahahahahahahaha….how is that? Was the gorical going to see it happen before hand, and stop the planes? Come on dude are you serious? So what was Clinton too stupid to see the 1st WTC attack, the African Embassy attacks, the USS Cole Attack, the OKC bombing?

All right , you mugs . This is the dumbest chump in Congress . So President Roosevelt is responsible for Pearl Harbor ?

ImJustThatDamnGood says:
August 20, 2010 at 1:54 pm ImJustThatDamnGood(Quote)
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I truly believe if Gore was President 9/11 would have not occurred.

That is one of the most laughable things I’ve heard today!! You libs really are completely delusional, aren’t you!?

Congressman Alan Grayson is on this list of DEMOCRAT SOCIALISTS in CONGRESS:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/exposed-long-list-of-elected-officials.html

And this is the kind of trash the Dems have in their party!

Man, the Dems are the gift that keeps on giving.

BTW, did ya know that Republicans now make up 70% of the nation?

Yep, the Imam’s wife said today that its the GOP that’s behind the opposition to the mosque.

Yeah Juan, him about 90 other DEMS, as I recall.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
I truly believe if Gore was President 9/11 would have not occurred.

Yeah, I’m sure the Muslims would be really afraid of that clown Al “Bore.”

More Liberty said:
LOL….hahahahahahahaha….how is that? Was the gorical going to see it happen before hand, and stop the planes? Come on dude are you serious? So what was Clinton too stupid to see the 1st WTC attack, the African Embassy attacks, the USS Cole Attack, the OKC bombing?

The attacks you mention happen while Gore was in office as well meaning he gained experience. Experience most likely would have led to the failure of 9/11 from a President Gore due to his superior mind set.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
Experience most likely would have led to the failure of 9/11 from a President Gore due to his superior mind set.

LOL

You mean the mind that needs late night massages?

MichelleF said:
Yeah Juan, him about 90 other DEMS, as I recall.

YEP, They should be charged with TREASON!

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
The attacks you mention happen while Gore was in office as well meaning he gained experience. Experience most likely would have led to the failure of 9/11 from a President Gore due to his superior mind set.

Now I get it, you’re obviously joking…haha…satire. I get it.

I wonder what the reaction to someone as boorish as Grayson would be if he were not a MoveOn.org mouthpiece who looked like he came from hearty Cro-Magnon stock, but instead a physically attractive, openly Christian, pro-life female Republican?

Experience most likely would have led to the failure of 9/11 from a President Gore due to his superior mind set.

Dude, you’re killing me, stop!! After that comment, I’m starting to think you are a conservative posing as a loony liberal.

Ah, it doesn’t get any better for Barry- this follows him wherever he goes:

President Obama, who took a plunge in the Gulf last week to show Americans it was safe to swim the oil spill-plagued area, arrived on this supposedly pristine island yesterday in the midst of a rash of bacteria-induced beach closings.

Portions of Tisbury Great Pond, the salt-water lagoon fronting the first family’s vacation estate Blue Heron Farm, were closed earlier this week due to high levels of enterococci, an indicator that the water is contaminated with fecal bacteria. Ew.

Grayson is like some of the liberals on Mediaite’s comment threads. He wants to get in and mix it up with adults, but he knows that since he can’t match wits, he’ll resort to idiocy for the sole purpose of seeing his name and picture on a news site.

Rep. Alan Grayson On The ‘Ground Zero Mosque’: Bush Allowed 9/11 To Happen
» 21 commentsby Frances Martel | 1:46 pm, August 20th, 2010
videoFlorida Congressman Alan Grayson is very insulted in the name of the families of 9/11 victims. Except he’s not worrying so much about the “athletic center” replacing the old Burlington Coat Factor a few blocks from Ground Zero– he’s still angry that George W. Bush allowed the 9/11 attacks to take place.
Rep. Grayson isn’t exactly the type to tone down any argument, but the current emotional levels of the “Ground Zero Mosque” debate are pretty hard to top, even for him. Still, after a lengthy explanation of things that are more important than the mosque (America’s national life expectancy is “just below Albania,” no one knows how to do any math), Grayson found a way: blaming the terror attacks on September 11, 2001 on President Bush:

“If we are going to talk about 9/11, why don’t we talk about how not so much the people who died on 9/11 were disgraced by the possibility of an Islamic athletic center several blocks away; how about the fact that they were disgraced by a president who let it happen? Who went on vacation for the entire month of August after he was warned in writing that Osama bin Laden was actually finding targets in NYC and learning how to take these planes and do terrible things with them? The thing itself said ‘hijacking’ and they did nothing about it.”

Grayson continues in this vein, arguing the actual 9/11 terror attacks themselves rather than the proposed Islamic community center, with Ed Show substitute host Cenk Uygur responding to the comments with his own assessment of what the Bush administration did.

The video via MSNBC below:

[h/t Breitbart.tv]

Thanks, BREITBART!

Whoops!

Sorry, didn’t mean to post the whole article.

Just Thanking BREITBART!

notsofast said:
Portions of Tisbury Great Pond, the salt-water lagoon fronting the first family’s vacation estate Blue Heron Farm, were closed earlier this week due to high levels of enterococci, an indicator that the water is contaminated with fecal bacteria.

So what’s the big deal if a piece of crap were to jump in with a bunch of crap?

More Liberty said:
I put this in the same category of Obama’$ a Muslim.

Obama’s church doesn’t look like a mosque. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eotAHXQ0-Ck&feature=youtu.be

But, it looks like Grayson and this guy think alike. BFF’s? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DMhzsUKr2s&feature=player_embedded

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
The attacks you mention happen while Gore was in office as well meaning he gained experience. Experience most likely would have led to the by the failure of 9/11 from a President Gore due to his superior mind set.

9/11 shouldn’t have happened because Bin Laden should have already been dead. The fact is, both administrations share responsibility for 9/11. However, Grayson is a clown. He should go away and never come back.

Come on people isn’t this America, where there is the freedom of religion and the freedom to purchase and own property, not to mention useit accordingly? What has happened to us to make us feel that some people are not and should not be afforded that right? Have we become just as the terrorists themselves, which say that we shouldn’t be in the middle east cause we are infidels!!!

http://bit.ly/moslimproblem

hmmmm…. The new anti-Bush ad from the DNC and Alan Grayson running to MSNBC to say this.

I don’t feel like they’ll get much traction from this strategy.

The dems would do better if they ran on ‘incremental’ ways that “change” has started.

republicanblack said:
What has happened to us to make us feel that some people are not and should not be afforded that right?

Errr, that would be 9/11/01 – - -

Grayson
They’re coming to take you away, HO HO!
They’re coming to take you away, HO HO!

Oh, wait! I see!!
WITH to MR. Ed substitiute host CENK UYGUR!!!

Now that ‘splains it !!!

They’re coming to take you away, also, CENK, HO HO!
They’re coming to take you away, also, CENK, HO HO!

Alan Grayson’s Top 20 Campaign contributors include MoveOn.Org. LOL.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?type=I&cid=N00028418&newMem=N&recs=20&cycle=2010

I’m convinced that either Ted or Royal Race-Baiter are Alan Grayson.

republicanblack said:
Come on people isn’t this America, where there is the freedom of religion and the freedom to purchase and own property, not to mention useit accordingly? What has happened to us to make us feel that some people are not and should not be afforded that right? Have we become just as the terrorists themselves, which say that we shouldn’t be in the middle east cause we are infidels!!! http://bit.ly/moslimproblem

You know, what I’ve noticed about these muslims is they never seem to have a problem with legal limitations placed on non-muslims in lands where muslims are dominant. When’s the last time you’ve heard an American muslims arguing for religious freedom for non-muslims in Saudi Arabia? It would be nice to hear this imam make a public call for all muslims to take the streets and demand equality for non-muslims in Saudi Arabia. I won’t hold my breath. “Cordoba” which symbolizes for muslims the ideal state of relations between muslims and non-muslims recalls a time in which non-muslims were second-class citizens who had submitted to the dominance of islamic law. That they regard “Cordoba” as a fitting title for their new “islamic center” is telling in my opinion.

It’s easy for them to demand absolute religious equality in lands where islam is a minority religion. Let’s see them demand it for non-islamic religions in lands where islam is dominant.

republicanblack said:
Have we become just as the terrorists themselves,

Yes, telling a group that preaches that it wants to build a bridge between it and the rest of America that building a center at that location is insensitive to those who died there and would exacerbate ill will is certainly the equivalent of flying planes into buildings and killing 3000 people.

Yes- that is such a valid analogy!

Rolls eyes in disbelief.

And how will Chuck Todd (who does “real journalism” like his gal pal Andrea Mitchell {a completely laughable statement on behalf of Todd]) come to the defense of Grayson????

Will he reach into something so absurd as his latest protective comment on hehimselftheone. In discussing Obama’s “bitter clinger” comment, Todd said this:

“According to Todd [quoting Paul Begala], Obama is his mother’s son, and like the anthropologist she was, he was simply offering an anthropological analysis of the plight of those poor rural Pennsylvanians”. (h/t newsbusters).

So, MSNBC (the place for propaganda) claims that Obama didn’t mean to demean those poor Pennsylvanians.

Yup, that’s “real journalism” Chuck, fer sure, uh huh….you got it dude.

MSNBC=meltdown

Alan Grayson and Nancy Pelosi = 2 UNSTABLE people

9/11 Families: Pelosi Has Lost Her Mind

Speaker’s Comments Infuriate Many; Archbishop Offers Help

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/08/18/911-families-pelosi-has-lost-her-mind/

As a person who lives in Florida can somebody else please volunteer to take SHREK away from us.

Rep. Alan Grayson, you dbag, I know that this comes as news to you but Bush didn’t attack America on 9//11/2001; a group of Muslims did. It was in all the papers.

MichelleF said:
Let the record show that Frannie couldn’t bring herself to say the obvious, “grayson is a loon!!”. Perhaps she agrees with him. Another fine piece of journOlism Frannie!!

Actually Francis, Michelle-in-Utah is most thankful for you and Mediaite. Without Mediaite Michelle would have little opportunity to pursue her favorite activities: bleating, kvetchng, moaning and whining.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

republicanblack said:
Come on people isn’t this America, where there is the freedom of religion and the freedom to purchase and own property

Hey, that’s cool. So… How do you feel about union people intimidating non-union shops? How ’bout card check, do you thinks that;s just peach?

It is true that the attack on 911 was far more serious than building a mosque in the neighborhood of the wreckage.

notsofast said:
Rep. Alan Grayson, you dbag, I know that this comes as news to you but Bush didn’t attack America on 9//11/2001; a group of Muslims did. It was in all the papers.

I have to go with NSF on this one. The towers and the Pentagon were attacked by Saudis, among whom many of the Bush’s best friends may be found. No Iraqis attacked 9/11. Oddly.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

MSNBC Mgt. Please make ole CENK here a permanent
sustitute host for all your nutjob lineup !
PLEASE !!
You got a real winner here, much like former permanent
sub host David Shuster.
You can’t make this up !

gar said:
As a person who lives in Florida can somebody else please volunteer to take SHREK away from us.

Grayson is butt-ugly. I hope no woman volunteered to marry him.

The Real Royal King said:
I have to go with NSF on this one. The towers and the Pentagon were attacked by Saudis, among whom many of the Bush’s best friends may be found. No Iraqis attacked 9/11. Oddly.

Tsk, tsk, King- you show so much Islamnaphobia , but you are a lib so bigotry comes naturally to you.

MichelleF said:
I’m convinced that either Ted or Royal Race-Baiter are Alan Grayson.

You are convinced of so much, and invariably wrong.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

newzmaker said:
Grayson is butt-ugly. I hope no woman volunteered to marry him.

Have you seen Warren Jeffs? Many women are married to him.

Newt Gingrich? While he is usually only married to one woman at a time, he’s usually having affairs with several women at a time while married. And, is he ugly! A mole gone gray.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

notsofast said:
Tsk, tsk, King- you show so much Islamnaphobia , but you are a lib so bigotry comes naturally to you.

Hey, NSF, I’m not the one who spontaneously pees when he sees a man in a turban.

You know, I’ve neve see a man in a turbine. That must be shocking.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

The Real Royal King said:
Actually Francis, Michelle-in-Utah is most thankful for you and Mediaite. Without Mediaite Michelle would have little opportunity to pursue her favorite activities: bleating, kvetchng, moaning and whining. AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”IS NO UNDERTAKING,JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

Wow, Michelle posts and King Oliver Crangle shows up to stalk. Like Clockwork!

Cenk Uygur, Alan Grayson, King Oliver Crangle, you know if you added up their I.Q.’s, collectively? I doubt you could come up with a decent bowling score.

Hey! but it’s looks like they are all 9-11 TRUTHERS? OMG! you can’t make this stuff up.

Please AAMSNBC put Cenk Uygur on 24/7, He will always answer the question. ‘What did happen to that kid that came to school on the short bus?’

Offering a strictly objective analysis, if I were an exec at MSNBC, I’d fire Shultz and replace him with Ugyar. In my opinion, Shultz is the worst–so bad I actually feel sorry for him. And at least with Ugyar, they’ll have a guy on the payroll not only named “Cenk” but named “Ugyar” too–whom they can point to when they are accused of racial hypocrisy every time they criticize this or that racial aspect of the right/tea party/Fox News.

You gotta LUV this:

Public becoming increasingly fed up with public masters — er, servants

In Chicago:

Dozens of Highland Park residents confronted their Park District commissioners Thursday night, demanding that they resign for approving a series of exorbitant bonuses, salary increases and pension boosting payouts to top district executives between 2005 and 2008.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/public-becoming-increasingly-fed-up-with-public-masters–er-servants-101164279.html#ixzz0xAtLrSXE

9/11 Truther …. Me? Afraid not. I’m certain W and his Administration would have been to inept to pull it off. The truth of 9/11. An attack had been in the planning stages. Condi Rice was advised of a forthcoming attack using planes, but without dates, times or places. She chose not ignore it. The attack happened. Mose of the attackers were Saudis. W was reading a nursery school book to some elementary school children. He quickly ran off and flew around to various holes in which to hide as members of the Saudi Royal Family were flown out of the US. Then, we attacked Afghanistan which was sheltering the mastermind, Bin Laden. The Administration allowed Bin Laden to escape. Then, we invaded and occupied Iraq, a country which had no role in 9/11. The invasion went reasonably well. FOX reported WMD’s had been found. That was a lie, and FOX slinked away from the story. The occupation went dreadfully. Poorly planned. Inadequate troops. The commanders’ repeated requests for more trrops were denied. FInally, W, over the objections of Dick and Donnie, sent more troops. Matters improved. President Obama campaigned on the promise to withdraw troops. He kept his promise. The troops withdrew this week. MSNBC, CNN and other new networks carried the story. FOX had O’Hannity on to pump up O’Rove’s deflated ego, O’Reilly to interview a body lnaguage specialist and O’Van Susteren riding around on a boat in Alaska. That is the truth about 9/11. The W Adminsitration did not plan not execute the attack. It merely ignored it.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

juan said:
You gotta LUV this: Public becoming increasingly fed up with public masters — er, servants In Chicago: Dozens of Highland Park residents confronted their Park District commissioners Thursday night, demanding that they resign for approving a series of exorbitant bonuses, salary increases and pension boosting payouts to top district executives between 2005 and 2008. Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/public-becoming-increasingly-fed-up-with-public-masters–er-servants-101164279.html#ixzz0xAtLrSXE

Yes, there is a ground swell of opposition to ignorant and wasterful leadership, even among those governed by the 10th amendment.

Check out http://www.mycongressmanisnuts.com

This blithering idiot is about three phases down the evolutionary scale…but is considered one of the leading lights on the left

This moron said ““Well, I have the benefit of working as an economist for 4 years before I was elected to Congress, and that does give me insight into how all this works.”

..one teensy, weensy litlle problem……..IT’S FRACKING LIE!!!!
http://leedoren.com/2010/04/16/alan-grayson-worked-as-an-economist-for-4-years/

Where do the Jackassocrats find these idiots??

juan said:
You gotta LUV this:
Public becoming increasingly fed up with public masters — er, servants
In Chicago:
Dozens of Highland Park residents confronted their Park District commissioners Thursday night, demanding that they resign for approving a series of exorbitant bonuses, salary increases and pension boosting payouts to top district executives between 2005 and 2008.

They are all Democrats..as were the crooks in Bell, CA. The media didn’t mention this. I guess they just forgot

ImJustThatDamnGood says:
“I do not think Bush wanted 9/11 to occur but he was not intelligent enough to stop 9/11 as a consequence from the poor judgment of the Supreme Court. I truly believe if Gore was President 9/11 would have not occurred.”

Well, if you consider that both Kerry and Gore had bad grades compared to George in college, I wonder. Also, Iran will have nukes soon and I know Obama, using your “logic” wants that to occur. See how dumb that is? In actual fact, al Qaeda had been attacking us for a couple of decades before that, it was after the Cole incident, Clinton president!….that Osama finally understood that the USA would not retaliate and went for 9/11 in earnest. His mistake and ours for not bombing the hell out of upper Pakistan/Afghanistan’s Waziristan provinces!! We fought like liberals and look at the result!!!!

Grayson is so far back in the House Chamber you would have to paint him
with flourescent paint and turn the lights out to find his dumb ass , BUT he learned quickly
that making stupid, outragious comments on the floor would guarantee him instant
invite on all the MSNBC shows.
I can not believe the good people of Orlando will continue this wierdo
as their Rep in Congress. If so than I have finally learned after all these
years why Orlando was chosen for Disney World.

The Real Royal King said:
9/11 Truther …. Me? Afraid not. I’m certain W and his Administration would have been to inept to pull it off. The truth of 9/11. An attack had been in the planning stages. Condi Rice was advised of a forthcoming attack using planes, but without dates, times or places. She chose not ignore it. The attack happened. Mose of the attackers were Saudis. W was reading a nursery school book to some elementary school children. He quickly ran off and flew around to various holes in which to hide as members of the Saudi Royal Family were flown out of the US. Then, we attacked Afghanistan which was sheltering the mastermind, Bin Laden. The Administration allowed Bin Laden to escape. Then, we invaded and occupied Iraq, a country which had no role in 9/11. The invasion went reasonably well. FOX reported WMD’s had been found. That was a lie, and FOX slinked away from the story. The occupation went dreadfully. Poorly planned. Inadequate troops. The commanders’ repeated requests for more trrops were denied. FInally, W, over the objections of Dick and Donnie, sent more troops. Matters improved. President Obama campaigned on the promise to withdraw troops. He kept his promise. The troops withdrew this week. MSNBC, CNN and other new networks carried the story. FOX had O’Hannity on to pump up O’Rove’s deflated ego, O’Reilly to interview a body lnaguage specialist and O’Van Susteren riding around on a boat in Alaska. That is the truth about 9/11. The W Adminsitration did not plan not execute the attack. It merely ignored it.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

So it’s settled then.

This is DNC strategy and the operative have gotten their new marching orders.

Sue said:
ImJustThatDamnGood says:“I do not think Bush wanted 9/11 to occur but he was not intelligent enough to stop 9/11 as a consequence from the poor judgment of the Supreme Court. I truly believe if Gore was President 9/11 would have not occurred.” Well, if you consider that both Kerry and Gore had bad grades compared to George in college, I wonder. Also, Iran will have nukes soon and I know Obama, using your “logic” wants that to occur. See how dumb that is? In actual fact, al Qaeda had been attacking us for a couple of decades before that, it was after the Cole incident, Clinton president!….that Osama finally understood that the USA would not retaliate and went for 9/11 in earnest. His mistake and ours for not bombing the hell out of upper Pakistan/Afghanistan’s Waziristan provinces!! We fought like liberals and look at the result!!!!

Feel better? Four, count em, four exclams. How would you know these things, for sure? Just because a particular diplomacy did not work out does not mean that the decision was faulty. Maybe you are not understanding the diplomacy. We fought Korea and VIet Nam according to the Truman Doctrine, which is the strategy of containment. Neither war was, or could be won, without escalating, and significantly heating up, the cold war. A few years later, and on an on going basis, we won the cold war, that is frickin reality, so how can anyone say that the Truman Doctrine, a winner in the cold war, was not fully justified by the heroic and fully successful, war of containment that was Korea and Viet Nam? After Viet Nam, a few additional countries eventually became red, but there were not dominos falling because we had the courage to stand in the gap with resolve and heart. And we were justified when the iron curtain fell, and our enemies have become friends, or at least friends in the making. This is a far safer world because of America’s committment to protecting freedom in Korea, Viet Nam, and now, in my opinion, in Iraq.

Ahhh.. Fred Flintstone the Truther

YOU KNOW YOUR A LIBERAL WHEN …

You’re a Truther , who insults Birthers ..

Not at all shocking since 61% of Democrats aren’t sure Bush didn’t know about 9/11 beforehand while 35% believe absolutely Bush knew about it.

RRK, after all of you posts I now see that you do not have an original thought in your body. You just summarized Fahrenheit 9/11 and tried to pass it off as your own coherent thoughts. Referencing Michael Moore is like thinking JFK is an accurate depiction of that tragic day.

RRK – And before you rip off the credit of the draw down and give it to Obama, all of this was set in motion before Odumbo took the oath. Fortunately he was smart enough to not jack with the plan that W teed up for him.

Cecelia said:
So it’s settled then. This is DNC strategy and the operative have gotten their new marching orders.

No. This is what happened, and this is what my great grandchildren and your great, great, great, great grandchildren will be taught of the US War of Choice Against Iraq.

I notice you didn’t and couldn’t “refudiate” any of the facts.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

MSNBC seems determined to help out the Republicans during this election season. First they fill up their shows with endless promotion of the intensely unpopular Ground Zero mosque. Then they devote most of an evening to celebrating the success of the Bush surge and stabilization in Iraq. And now they give the microphone to Alan Grayson, who is always a walking-and-talking advertisement for why the Democrats can’t be trusted with the reins of power. As if it isn’t embarrassing enough to the Left to have Keith Olbermann on TV every evening….

The Real Royal King said:
That is the truth about 9/11. The W Adminsitration did not plan not execute the attack. It merely ignored it.

Sounds like a Truther to me cause plenty of Wing-Nuts believe that. But of course you have NO proof, never did never will. Because if we go along those lines then one has to say Bill Clinton ignored it. In fact a case can be better made against Clinton than Bush.

Where as WTC was attacked on 9-11-01 & 2-26-1993 Both were during transitional years of the Presidency.

Bush did respond by going after who did it, what did Clinton do? Clinton did nothing, nada, zip. Or as you said IGNORED IT. Or maybe I missed it when Dee Dee Myers came out and said it was a local issue?

Now if you want to go the route that Bush knew and did nothing that makes you a truther, which coming from an Oliver Crangle Staker type as yourself, does not surprise in the least bit. BTW isn’t it time for you to go listen to Alex Jones?

felixw said:
MSNBC seems determined to help out the Republicans during this election season. First they fill up their shows with endless promotion of the intensely unpopular Ground Zero mosque. Then they devote most of an evening to celebrating the success of the Bush surge and stabilization in Iraq. And now they give the microphone to Alan Grayson, who is always a walking-and-talking advertisement for why the Democrats can’t be trusted with the reins of power. As if it isn’t embarrassing enough to the Left to have Keith Olbermann on TV every evening….

And let’s not forget they have added Cenk Uygur, Who use to be on ONE radio station out of Kansas until KFH decided to go to a ‘REAL GUY’ talk format. Then they gave him the boot. The only thing AAMSNBC has to do now is give Randi Rhoades & Mike Malloy a show. Why not? These two are on more radio stations then Cenk ever was. (but not that many)

I’ve just seen MSNBC’s rating numbers from yesterday. They still look ugly. It looks like MSNBC dug itself in a hole by reporting on a successful US military involvement that other day. They should realize that their core base of loyal viewers are unhappy with the success stabilization of Iraq following the Bush surge. The network needs to go back to its core strengths: (1) character attacks against conservatives, (2) playing the race card, and (3) Keith Olbermann having a meltdown on camera.

The Real Royal King said:
Hey, NSF, I’m not the one who spontaneously pees when he sees a man in a turban.

No, you spontaneously shit your diaper.

felixw said:
I’ve just seen MSNBC’s rating numbers from yesterday. They still look ugly. It looks like MSNBC dug itself in a hole by reporting on a successful US military involvement that other day. They should realize that their core base of loyal viewers are unhappy with the success stabilization of Iraq following the Bush surge. The network needs to go back to its core strengths: (1) character attacks against conservatives, (2) playing the race card, and (3) Keith Olbermann having a meltdown on camera.

NBC averages about 7 million viewers a night for its evening news, together with maybe a half million more who watch MSNBC. How does that compare to the 2.5 million FOX News viewers? Very favorably, in fact. And on the one hand you are saying that KO is melting down, while Glenn Bleck is talking about Charles Dawin being the father of racism.

oops, Darwin.

valkyrie101 said:
NBC averages about 7 million viewers a night for its evening news, together with maybe a half million more who watch MSNBC. How does that compare to the 2.5 million FOX News viewers? Very favorably, in fact. And on the one hand you are saying that KO is melting down, while Glenn Bleck is talking about Charles Dawin being the father of racism.

FOX Network doesn’t have a Evening News telecast so one can only speculate how many viewers they would have there. And with Sheppard Smith hosting a FOX Network version of the FOX Report I think it would do very considering I have heard so many liberals tell me the only good thing about FNC is Sheppard Smith.

very well considering

it happens

JimBob said:
Grayson is so far back in the House Chamber you would have to paint himwith flourescent paint and turn the lights out to find his dumb ass , BUT he learned quicklythat making stupid, outragious comments on the floor would guarantee him instantinvite on all the MSNBC shows.I can not believe the good people of Orlando will continue this wierdoas their Rep in Congress. If so than I have finally learned after all theseyears why Orlando was chosen for Disney World.

Just to cut the folks in the 8th district a little slack this bum was elected in 2008 when the Republicans were pretty much where the Democrats are today.

And I’m sure wing-nut Grayson wasn’t running around saying all this off the wall stuff during the campaign in 2008.

The Real Royal King said:
No. This is what happened, and this is what my great grandchildren and your great, great, great, great grandchildren will be taught of the US War of Choice Against Iraq.

I notice you didn’t and couldn’t “refudiate” any of the facts.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

AT FOX “REPORTING” THE “NEWS”
IS NO UNDERTAKING,
JUST RECITE A FEW LIES,
IT’S ALL SIMPLY FAKING.

That you wish every discussion to be turned into these sorts of debates is very much the campaign strategy of your DNC overlords.

It certainly beats campaigning on the job numbers.

Yeah, this guy is just sort of nuts. He’s like the Michele Bachmann of the DNC.

valkyrie101 said:
NBC averages about 7 million viewers a night for its evening news, together with maybe a half million more who watch MSNBC. How does that compare to the 2.5 million FOX News viewers? Very favorably, in fact. And on the one hand you are saying that KO is melting down, while Glenn Bleck is talking about Charles Dawin being the father of racism.

It’s a stupid comparison, Val. Legacy broadcasters had a fifty year head start on cable. So these kinds of comparisons are meaningless, as everyone knows. The more revealing statistic is that NBC News’s audience has been steadily falling and is probably around half of what it once was. Meanwhile, Fox has been growing rapidly. And if you give Fox time, it will eventually surpass even the broadcast news networks, because it offers a superior product. That will probably take another 4-5 years. Maybe faster if NBC continues to show such obvious bias and contempt for viewers.

puck30 said:
FOX Network doesn’t have a Evening News telecast so one can only speculate how many viewers they would have there. And with Sheppard Smith hosting a FOX Network version of the FOX Report I think it would do very considering I have heard so many liberals tell me the only good thing about FNC is Sheppard Smith.

I agree, I like Shepard too.

Here are some real numbers for you, Val (although I know you avoid facts the way Dracula avoids sunlight):

Since 1980, nightly news viewership for the Big Three networks has fallen by some 25 million, or 48%. And check out the chart, which is very revealing:

http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2005/images/narrative_charts/networktv/audience_g.jpg

This tells you why Fox will eventually surpass the network news agencies. They are in a long term secular decline, and have no clue how to reverse it. Meanwhile Fox is constantly growing its audience.

felixw said:
It’s a stupid comparison, Val. Legacy broadcasters had a fifty year head start on cable. So these kinds of comparisons are meaningless, as everyone knows. The more revealing statistic is that NBC News’s audience has been steadily falling and is probably around half of what it once was. Meanwhile, Fox has been growing rapidly. And if you give Fox time, it will eventually surpass even the broadcast news networks, because it offers a superior product. That will probably take another 4-5 years. Maybe faster if NBC continues to show such obvious bias and contempt for viewers.

Well, why do you keep mentioning FOX’s great ratings if you do not also invite the inclusion of a little “perspective” on that? FOX is much more influencial than its 2 or 3 million viewers indicate, however. But to call it a superior product, I am wondering why you say that. It is simply a product that appeals to certain viewers and not others, like Sponge Bob, professional wrestlying and every other program.

felixw said:
Here are some real numbers for you, Val (although I know you avoid facts the way Dracula avoids sunlight): Since 1980, nightly news viewership for the Big Three networks has fallen by some 25 million, or 48%. And check out the chart, which is very revealing: http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2005/images/narrative_charts/networktv/audience_g.jpg This tells you why Fox will eventually surpass the network news agencies. They are in a long term secular decline, and have no clue how to reverse it. Meanwhile Fox is constantly growing its audience.

Of course the market of the big three networks has been shrinking because there used to be about 5 channels and now there are over 200 in some markets.

King Oliver Crangle says:
August 20, 2010 at 5:07 pm

“No. This is what happened, and this is what my great grandchildren and your great, great, great, great grandchildren will be taught of the US War of Choice Against Iraq.”

OMG! But not surprising. King & his Alex Jones followers have to be reminded that this was just a movie. It’s not real life King and you don’t get to play Richard Burtons’s part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55j_L9E2Ld0

Raygun said:
Yeah, this guy is just sort of nuts. He’s like the Michele Bachmann of the DNC.

No, he’s like the Alan Grayson of the DNC.

Poor Florida.

I’m glad to see Alan Grayson calling attention to the fact that Bush was behind 9-11. But he should also point out that Bush’s dad was the mastermind behind the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. And his grandfather Prescott Bush was in cahoots with John Wilkes Booth. I don’t know why MSNBC doesn’t include these equally proven and historically validated facts.

I think he is excellent. Almost tea bag material.

valkyrie101 said:
valkyrie101 says:
August 20, 2010 at 10:08 pm valkyrie101(Quote)

You are a teabaggee.

Grayson. Meet “The Grayson”.
He’s the modern stone age family man.
From the town of Bedrock,He’s a page right out of history.

Let’s ride with the family down the street (That Was Thrown Outta Their HOUSE AND BUSH ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN, CENK!)Through the, courtesy of Al’s two feet.

When you’re with “The Grayson”
You’ll have a yabba dabba doo time.
A dabba doo time.
You’ll have a (Repressed) Gay old time!

felixw said:
. And his grandfather Prescott Bush was in cahoots with John Wilkes Booth.

It’s true…Prescott and John W. Booth were dating at the time….Prescott dared him to take a shot…he did….and the rest is history…
HEY!…I don’t make this stuff up….

What the hell has Grayson been smoking? The man is psychotic.

notsofast said:
Yeah, I’m sure the Muslims would be really afraid of that clown Al “Bore.”

Well they were not afraid of Bush that is for sure.

Dave Richards said:
What the hell has Grayson been smoking? The man is psychotic.

But what he said is true. US LIfe expectancy is less that Albina, and Bush was on his fake ranch with his dick in is hand when he should have been paying attention to his job.

felixw said:
I’m glad to see Alan Grayson calling attention to the fact that Bush was behind 9-11. But he should also point out that Bush’s dad was the mastermind behind the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. And his grandfather Prescott Bush was in cahoots with John Wilkes Booth. I don’t know why MSNBC doesn’t include these equally proven and historically validated facts.

Did he really say that Bush was “behind 911″? Is he hooked up with the “truther” movement? Or was he saying that Bush was negligent in not preventing the attack? Big difference.

funny to see that the hero of the lefty loons is a truther. they must be proud.

sarainitaly said:
funny to see that the hero of the lefty loons is a truther. they must be proud.

He is not a “truther”, that is, he does not believe that the government was behind the 911 bombing. Rather, he believes that the Bush administration was negligent in not responding to the intelligence we had which indicated that an attack was imminent.

Why not throw out the United States Constitution, that is exactly what the right wants. Muslims, who already have a mosque nearby, have the legal right to build where they want. They will be taking a shame of NY building and making it into a place for Muslims and others to contemplate religious issues and divisiveness. Why doesn’t the right wing and New Yorkers with twats for brains believe in the right of any religious organization to built a house or worship or a recreational center, or whatever, where ever they want? As if the Muslim religion had anything to do with 9/11 whether Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, etc., just because some insane terrorists use a religion as their excuse does not mean the religion itself is to be excoriated. Isn’t America wonderful, you don’t have to believe in the Constitution just those miscreants on the right.

Yes indeed. The weak little drunk did do that. W the help of his drunken father, the Navy’s infamous “Bail out and slaughter your crew Bush.” Yup.

Let’s have some more heroic “Victory Parades!” Murcuh on thee march!

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
I do not think Bush wanted 9/11 to occur but he was not intelligent enough to stop 9/11 as a consequence from the poor judgment of the Supreme Court. I truly believe if Gore was President 9/11 would have not occurred.

You win the plexiglas bellybutton award!

The reason why the attacks of 11 September 2001 occurred is because Clitton allowed Madeline Halfbright to gut our intelligence infrastructure in the Middle East. Of the 35 field agents working in the Middle East (all of whom were appointed by Ms. Halfbright), only FOUR spoke Arabic or Farsi!!!!! Add to that the FACT that our operatives in Afghanistan had bin Laden in the crosshairs but Clitton WOULD NOT give the order to dispatch him, you are left with the REAL cause of how the US came to be attacked.

Nachi said:
Yes indeed. The weak little drunk did do that. W the help of his drunken father, the Navy’s infamous “Bail out and slaughter your crew Bush.” Yup. Let’s have some more heroic “Victory Parades!” Murcuh on thee march!

You’re as full of shit as a Christmas goose.

It’s difficult to believe someone as mentally deranged as Grayson could ever be elected to public office.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
I truly believe if Gore was President 9/11 would have not occurred.
The attacks you mention happen while Gore was in office as well meaning he gained experience. Experience most likely would have led to the by the failure of 9/11 from a President Gore due to his superior mind set.

Sure, That’s It. Al “The Massage King” Gore, with his superior mind set, would’ve remembered Bin Laden’s Fondness for Origami, and Bin Laden would’ve Instead presented us with “Paper Tiger”, thanks TO Eight Years of Clinton-Gore. So there would’ve been No 9/11. Right? Because the Hajis Soo Respected Eight Years of Yakety Yak, and One of these Days, We’re gonna get seriously serious about Getting Serious about Fighting You, Al-Qaeda! And We MEAN IT, This Time! And Now w/Obama’s Brenda Lee Tour Of The Muslim World vs., say, that “Guy” who gave The UN the Middle-Digit, and then had Momo Khadaffy Duck fold like a Cheap Accordian!

Here! Take ALL Of My Programs! Take Everything! Because He Remembers Ronald Reagan! But they All remember Jimmy Carter Too.. That’s the Problem.

pyrope said:
You win the plexiglas bellybutton award!

The reason why the attacks of 11 September 2001 occurred is because Clitton allowed Madeline Halfbright to gut our intelligence infrastructure in the Middle East. Of the 35 field agents working in the Middle East (all of whom were appointed by Ms. Halfbright), only FOUR spoke Arabic or Farsi!!!!! Add to that the FACT that our operatives in Afghanistan had bin Laden in the crosshairs but Clitton WOULD NOT give the order to dispatch him, you are left with the REAL cause of how the US came to be attacked.

The reason 9/11 happened is that private For profit co. were in charge of airport security that day, and they went for the cheapest contract they could get. The Security Co. who won the contract in order to make money on the contract hired the cheapest labor they could find. that is why before 9/11 they hired the retired and minimum wage workers. who let through ALL the terrorist with knives and fake explosives. Thank you Corporate America

Alan Grayson is just an Ivy League educated idiot.

hanoisteve said:
The reason 9/11 happened is that private For profit co. were in charge of airport security that day, and they went for the cheapest contract they could get. The Security Co. who won the contract in order to make money on the contract hired the cheapest labor they could find. that is why before 9/11 they hired the retired and minimum wage workers. who let through ALL the terrorist with knives and fake explosives. Thank you Corporate America

At the time of the attacks, the general public did not pass through screenings and only sporadic searches were done on “passengers of interest.” At that time, I was a sworn officer (a term you might find interesting to look up), in the state of Florida, and I routinely packed a firearm in my luggage but I sometimes carried it in a shoulder rig. It was truly a different world before 11 September 2001; we learned a harsh lesson for all our niaivete’. Now, everyone hates to fly anywhere because of the hassle that was caused by the Islamoterrorists.

As for airport security then and now, I can tell you that TSA is not generally staffed with what I’d describe as mental giants, but at least they’re not like the UK, who outsources its airport security to a company in India. Thus far, both the TSA and the security firm for the UK has done a fair-to-middling job.

Raygun said:
Alan Grayson is just an Ivy League educated idiot.

I think the boy sniffed too much glue.

9/09/11

THE WTC CRASHES COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED & FLYING CAN BE MADE
SAFER

     Sy Levine, former Chief Engineer of
Northrop’s Electronic System’s Division, work was featured in the BBC
television show the “THE BOX”. This BBC Channel 4 video, which gave
the solution to the aviation fatality problem, was never broadcast in prime
time in the US.  Basically, in this day and age, the
information going to the flight data recorder, commonly referred to as the
black box, should be sent to the ground, via radio, and utilized in real-time
to prevent most fatal accidents.  We do
this for our astronauts and it should be done for our passengers aboard
commercial aircraft.  Many of our fatal
accidents are the direct result of an information system that is inadequate, cumbersome
and prone to verbal errors of omission and commission. Neither the air traffic
controller nor the flight crew has all of the necessary information required to
prevent an accident and each operate with a vague system that is too verbal and
untimely.  For example, information such
as aircraft brake status which is essential to a ground controller for the
prevention of runway incursions and aircraft fuel remaining status to prevent
fuel depletion crashes are locked away in the flight recorder. Only by verbal
communication can the controller get some estimate of the status.  By radioing the data going to the recorder,
these status indicators can be automated and timely presented to the
controllers in a visual system such as the low fuel warning light/icon on a
car. It is essential for the reduction of aviation fatalities that the
information going to the data recorders be radioed to the ground and utilized
in real-time.  The information is also
critical to finding if an aircraft deviated from its flight plan anywhere in
the world.  Commercial aircraft position
and altitude should be instantly available and automatically monitored not only
for timely search and rescue in the advent of crash but also for anomalous behavior
during flight to prevent crashes. 
Because of the present lack of aircraft data the whole field of expert
systems and automation has been seriously compromised in commercial
aviation.  This lack of automation has
decreased flight safety and has increased travel costs.

     Aircraft that are experiencing serious flight deviations should
be safely landed automatically at an airfield/airport that minimizes both
aircraft and ground fatalities.  The
remote piloting vehicle (RPV) technology has been with us for over a decade and
is being used by our military in reconnaissance aircraft and in a new program
with DARPA (the inventors of the internet) for pilot-less fighter
aircraft.  Radioing the flight recorder
data to the ground enables the RPV technology to be utilized to safely land a
commercial airliner. The remote pilot, would be an aircraft specific, certified
pilot located in a secure ground location and a member of an Emergency Response
Team (ERT); It should be noted due to the present aviation data vacuum, no such
team presently exists. The team would be trained to timely communicate with air
traffic control, fire, coast guard, security, military and rescue personnel as
well as with the most qualified experts, with simulation capability, in
handling an aircraft’s problems before they become fatal accidents.  The remote pilot would radio up commands to
the instrument landing system/autopilot to bring the aircraft to a safe
landing.  This technology would have
prevented all of the September 11th ground fatalities, most if not
all of the aircraft fatalities and the WTC. 
It is not only critical for preventing fatalities due to terrorism in
the sky but it is also critical for preventing fatalities due to a myriad of
aircraft problems, such as the 1999 aircraft decompression problem that killed
golfer Payne Stewart.

    On
11/2000, a year prior to 9/11, in New
York, Levine gave a talk on this very subject at the
International Aviation Safety Association. In his talk he discussed why, the
aviation industry’s fear of liability based on the data availability and their
fears of automation leading to reductions in the work place, have seriously
compromised our national security and increased aviation related fatalities.  Everyone knew a 9/11 hijacking was possible known
though out the world.  Hijacking was
listed as one of the major causes of air fatalities.  The hijackers also knew that the US wasn’t
protecting against this threat and took advantage of this hole in our safety
system.  The FAA, which had metal
detectors at their central office in Washington,
wasn’t putting them at terminals. There wasn’t any legitimate reason for not
having an automated system in place so that when a hijacking occurred the
plane, via its autopilot, would be directed out of harms way and landed safely
at a secure airport. The technology was there but due to political PAC money it
wasn’t mandated to be used.  The FAA
allowed those people to die needlessly. Needless to say the neither the head of
the FAA, Dot or NTSB (all Bush’s political appointees lost their job because of
9/11 even though it was their responsibility to protect the public from known fatal
threats.  The people and the nations
suffered deeply because of this political blunder. In fact several of the heads
of these critical agencies had little if any aviation experience. So it was
like Katrina again.

By automating the system we can
saves lives and save billions of dollars annually on needless airport and runway
expansion programs, downed aircraft, controller costs, etc.  All of these high cost areas are driven by
the present system that is too verbal and inefficiently uses the ground
facilities and our airspace. Automating the data can substantially expand our
air space and make our existing ground facilities more than adequate. By the
utilization of the flight data recorder information in real-time we can reduce
the cost of flying, minimize delays, fly safer, and make our nation secure. Please
see:

      http://www.safelander.com