A politician who sticks to his principles and loves peace, liberty, free markets, and the law. If he’s not elected president, then we don’t deserve good politicians.

The Obama administration practically begged Iraq to stay there.  “The Obama administration has been working for months to persuade, pressure and cajole Iraq to allow U.S. troops to remain in that country beyond the deadline” (Salon Magazine, G. Greenwald, 21 Oct 2011).

Paul is right, the U.S. Embassy in Iraq is not an Embassy, it is a small U.S. Military Base in the middle of Baghdad.  Good thing the American people have forgotten what happened to our embassy in Tehran when it was used a base of operations to manipulate Iran’s internal politics.

URL: http://www.salon.com/2011/10/21/about_that_iraq_withdrawal/singleton/

Just recognize one simple maxim:

OBAMA WILL LIE ABOUT ANYTHING!

The media doesn’t respect sticking to your principles.  Look at Herman Cain, Mitt Romney, and Rick Perry; the media respects them, but they are running deceptive campaigns trying to pass themselves off as conservatives when in fact they are purveyors of big government.  Here is an article about the huge mistake the Tea Party are making in supporting these guys: http://blogforliberty.com/2011/10/17/hello-world/

And right on queue, Gregory cornering candidates to adopt and announce pro-war positions protective of Israel

But Paul is the one honest candidate on both sides and would not sign up for that nonsense. I think we should wean Israel, it seems pretty good at defending itself or even starting its own wars without our help. Paul knows it and almost states it paraphrased and thus he will never be allowed near the white house

Dylan fans upset…Chris Holly plays “The Times They Are a-Changin 2012″ for Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Jon Huntsman and Herman Cain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AokBQwrn6u0

Great insight, Norbit

We should have journalists swear allegiance to journalism
and not loyalty to Israel
over this country when they take important sensitive posts such
as hosting a Sunday political talk show or when practicing journalism at all

While I agree in a lot Paul says, the Constitution really doesn’t have much to say about foreign policy except the Senate has to ratify treaties and Congress has to declare war. The US was always messing behind the scenes and more with other countries. Even the Campaign against the Barbary Pirates wasn’t a declared war.

OBAMA LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING AND THE BIASED MASS STREAM MEDIA GOES ALONG WITH IT!!

 Your avatar says it all.

Thank You Dr. Paul!

You can exhaust yourself trying to help people who don’t really appreciate your help, and in the end you’ve wasted all your resources and they still don’t appreciate what you’ve done for them.

It’s time we helped the American taxpayer instead.  This country is going bankrupt and we just can’t afford to be the world’s policeman and chief nation builder anymore.

Ron Paul is right. U.S. won’t leave Iraq unless booted out as in Viet Nam.

Why ty…like wise! I also speak the truth!! No comment on that?…crickets..churp churp

While I admire his principles, he takes his foreign policy ideas to the fringe. If Iran attacked Jerusalem  under his presidency we would do nothing? Now that’s scary. He would be ok with Iran having 10,000 nuclear missiles because it’s their right. Ron, back to earth please.

Thank you for telling the truth, Representative Paul.

Dr. Ron Paul respects the sovereignty of other countries. He believes that Israel is more than capable of protecting itself, knows that a bottle rocket could do more harm than an Iranian nuke right now, and that Iran has not be an aggressive belligerent since World War II — and even that’s a debatable point.

We can’t afford a welfare entitlement state either.

Dennis, why should we do something? Why must America always be the ones to pay for the problems of the world?

Also, where would we get the money to defend Israel? We are 14 trillion in debt from all the other wars we’ve been fighting the past few decades.

Sir, with all due respect, please read AGAIN what you just posted.

“knows that a bottle rocket could do more harm than an Iranian nuke right **NOW**, and that Iran **HAS NOT BEEN** aggressive belligerent since World War II”

You do not wait for the guy who has been threatening to kill you to go build his gun. Iran constantly defies the UN…. wake up before it’s too late

Ron Paul is the Truth and if we listen then we would all be in a better place in four years.  I believe all elected officials should think like this man.  I have never gotten involved in politics or wanted to read about the Federal Reserve, but RON PAUL woke me up to the lack of morality in our money.  I have zero faith in government unless we have Ron Paul as PResident

If Israel asked for our assistance, and the Congress approved a resolution, we would help.

If you want to defend Jerusalem, donate money to Isreal through your Church.  What makes you think you have the right to call for me to donate money to defend Jerusalem?

Agreed.
I support the troops, but only in defending America.
If someone wants to send their son or daughter to die for Israel, go head on…
Not me.

I strongly agree that we need to get out of most of the world’s problems!!! I’m sick and tired of being the world police. But when it comes to Israel I believe we should stand 100% with them in their defense of any attacker.

Ron is right! You always can count on him to say what he means and do what he says he will do. Ron Paul has my vote even if I have to write in his name. The other candidates ALL just represent more of the same old Constitution ignoring warmongering we’ve had for decades. Ron Paul will get this Nation back to the Constitution, prosperity and the FREEDOM we once had here.

I can’t wait to vote for this guy.

I can’t wait to vote for this guy.

Iran simply doesn’t have the technology to even synthesize weapons-grade nuclear material, hell it took them over 40 hears to even build one friggin’ nuclear power plant (but that’s what they get for contracting commies). Despite not having a capable nuclear warhead, they don’t have a rocket that could target Israel or even any US bases — most of which don’t even need to be there anyway.

And calling Iran an aggressive nation is ridiculous. Ahmadinejad is merely a mouthpiece with little to no power, Ayatollah Khamenei can veto any action he takes and can force him to do anything he wants. Hell, Ahmadinejad is only there because Khemenei wants him there. Aside from that shaved gorilla, Iran since World War II has not attacked a single nation, but they’ve been invaded TWICE with UNITED STATES support — not including the CIA organizing a coup detat.

Whatever the Constitution does not say is not allowed. It’s not a list
of “do’s and don’ts” it’s only a list of “do’s”. As for the Barbary
Pirates, that’s a semantic fueled poop-storm of ignorance to context.
People act as if we got into that conflict by choice. And also forget
that the Constitution wasn’t yet ratified till years into the debacle.

It’s true even after the Constitution, Congress never voted to declare war on the pirates (after
war was already declared on us), President Jefferson still went to them
for authorization.

Our history isn’t spotless, that’s for sure, but these examples (Barbary
Wars) aren’t being used as justification for our current foreign
policy. Libya isn’t holding us to tribute/ransom. Neither was Vietnam or Iraq. And Al-Queda is not a nation, so even the war in Afghanistan is completely irrational. The only reason these examples are proposed is because people like yourself want to throw out the law all together.

Dear Ron Paul Supporters:  If all we do is post comments on the web, wave signs, and contribute to the campaign we will NOT win the nomination.  The only way to possibly win the nomination is to convince the Registered Republican Voters in your neighborhoods.  Get a list of voters from your county or state.  Usually County Board of Elections and Secretary of State, or similar.  Search the web.  Get the list, get some literature, and start knocking on doors.  It is actually fun and most Registered Republicans will be happy to talk with you.  Join a meetup group in your area. The number of people that actually vote in the Republican Primary is quite small compared to the overal number of voters. I will repeat, THE ONLY WAY RON PAUL CAN POSSIBLY WIN THE NOMINATON IS FOR YOU TO START KNOCKING ON DOORS – NOW. This means YOU.  Make up your mind to do this or be prepared to lose.  Liberty-Peace-Prosperity

All caps is screaming.  The fact that person did not respond to your screaming doesn’t mean you win the debate, it means you broke the rules of decorum and debate, and he therefore didn’t need to respond.  And I beleive you intended to say “mainstream” and not “mass stream”.  Mass Stream sounds like a really fast fishing boat….

What authority is provided by the U.S. Constitution to do as you suggest, Dennis?

But don’t you know that Jews make up ~5 million of our 310 million population? How could we not defend their God-given homeland with all our might?

“It’s in the Constitution. Or if it isn’t, it should be!” – GOP 2012

 I don’t know where you came up with the idea that I “want to throw out the law all together” or that I totally support what is being done now? Your fundamentalist interpretation of the Constitution is laughable. It is not a blueprint for all of government or an exact enumeration of what and what it shouldn’t do. As far as the Barbary Pirates, it was a war of choice. The Barbary Pirates never left the Mediterranean and attacked the US proper.

Funny how Paulistas always devolve every argument into a Jewish thing. No bigotry here, just move on, He is just a patriot who loves the Constitution.

 Yes, your comment have about as much weight as crickets chirping

Dennis. Get real. Iran doesn’t even have one single nuke like you don’t have a big peter, so quit fantasizing. However, the  Israeli’s do have 300 nukes and missle delivery and Uncle Sammy has 20,000 nukes plus chemicals and bio and a bunch of stuff we haven’t even heard of. Dennis, if it makes you feel better, I think thumb sucking is OK under an Obama administration.

Now we have hit a sinkhole of moronic conspiracy theories.

Ron Paul is the most coherent, the most outspoken, and the most reasonable of all the candidates running for President!

Thou has answered and thou has lost the debate!!! main-stream, mass-stream, the-main-mass-stream is all liberal political BS.

I try not to get lost in semantics and try stick to the facts…..Like Obama is habitual liar!! FACT!!  See the difference?

Why should he do
anything? It’s not the job of the tax payer to save the world from
conflict. There are many negative consequences to this.
First, the U.S.
have to pick an alliance, which logically equates to gaining an enemy. 
Second. Countries become dependent on foreign
aid, this doesn’t bode well for their national sovereignty. Third, the U.S have a duplicitous history of changing its
alliances, propping dictators, arming militias, which results in
blowback.

Finally, you’re
emotionalising the argument. 10,000 missiles? -Please! You want to
bomb them based on the prospect of having one.

This is a strange
mindset held by proponents of American exceptionalism.

I’ll vote for him.

Israel does not need our support they can ward off any of their middle eastern enemies. Just as their government is a tremendous bright spot in the dark abyss that is that area of the world, their military is far superior. We should be a mediator, not a partner with the country that will most certainly win.

Your statement is deliberately untrue. Despite endless attempts to bait them into statements which will allow them to be dismissed as “anti-semetic” Paul followers won’t play your game. I don’t see any bigotry above. I see a reasonable point which you have failed to respond to because you don’t have an answer. It’s you who went for the cheap slur

>”If Iran attacked Jerusalem”

They’re not going to. As a young person, I’m a lot more scared of being drafted to fight a war with Iran than I am of Iran getting nukes.

That wasn’t a conspiracy theory.

It’s not a Jewish thing, it’s an Israel thing. We shouldn’t be Israel’s bitch boy any more than Britain’s or Japan’s.

No Muslim country would attack Israel. Israel has the 3rd most holy city in Islam - Jerusalem. There would be rioting in the streets all over the middle east. 

Look Paul has a lot to say that is accurate, but so often it ends up being unworkable.   If he had softer edges, he’d be POTUS.

He takes Libertarianism all of the way to the end zone, and people on both the left and the right go whooooooa, Nellie when he hits the outer fringes.  I know that I certainly do.

I’d have phrased the question in another way.  What should America’s response be IF Iran decided to drop a nuke on Israel?  Or, what should the response be if we could verify that was their intent?

He’d have to come up with a much better answer than the predicted ‘oh they can handle it’.  Really?  What if you’re wrong, sir?  What then?  Because those contingencies have to be planned for, at least the broad strokes.  It’s not good enough to say ‘nothing, it’s not our business’.

Yes, it wasn’t a declared war, but Jefferson was smart about it.

“Jefferson sent a small force to the area to protect American ships and
citizens against potential aggression, but insisted that he was
‘unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense.’”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War#Declaration_of_war_and_naval_blockade

How many days did Egypt war with Israel until is surrendered?

And the Israeli military currently has better equipment and better training than it did then.

The Drone war is a a perfect analogy for the pathetic cowardly Obama, a deeply closeted homosexual who will be remembered in history as a convicted Mexican drug cartel gun runner who spent his remaining days as a cellblock punk.

How many Merkavas did israel lose in South Lebanon to the superior tactics of Hezbollah?

Who had to call in the U.N. peacekeeping authority to rescue their ground forces after their failed attempt to steal the Litani River in Lebanon?

“Now we have hit a sinkhole of moronic conspiracy theories.”

Shah Reza Pahlavi of Iran, Augusto Pinochet of Chile, General Suharto of Indonesia, Anastazio Somoza of Nicaragua, Saddam Hussein (yes!) of Iraq, Fulgencio Bautista of Cuba, Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, Muammar Khadaffi (yes!)- and that’s just the SHORT list from the PAST! 

Today, we can include King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan, Kurbanguly Berdymukhamedov of Turkmenistan, Teodoro Mbasogo of Equitorial Guinea, and the list (and the murders, torture, rape, looting and exploitation) go on and on!

If you choose to ignore history, as well as the reality that exists in U.S. Foreign Policy to this present time, it is a comfortable ignorance. But it is NOT a ‘conspiracy theory’ if it can be backed up so easily with readily available and openly discussed FACTS!  Turn a blind eye to what our government actually does abroad, and you will NEVER understand the root causes for the intense HATRED many feel for the American Government (Note- NOT the American PEOPLE!).

Just like all the rest, rt?

China is increasing its military and has a lot of nuclear capabilities. Why are we not terrorizing their country too?

Since the interview and thread had nothing to do with Israel or even any of her neighbors, it is awfully suspicious that the comment track goes so quickly towards Zionism, Jews Israel etc. Sorry, maybe my paranoia is getting the better of me?

If Israel deserves special treatment from us, they need to become a province or state to receive our benefits and pay us taxes.

Wow, that was totally psychotic comment, I guess since Obama doesn’t lead the troops into action on his war charger like all other presidents do, that deeply offended your sense of honor.

The other side of the world needs to sort out its own problems. We can’t go picking and choosing what country dominates the other. We did that for businesses in our economy and look at the mess we made!

I disagree.

Obama Will Lie about EVERYTHING!

Only President to lead troops into battle was George Washington during the Whiskey Rebellion :)

Why?

Dennis, 

Sir, I understand your concern, and I understand people’s concern for such notion to protect an ally. I sense it as a part of morality in people like yourselves to help someone in need, but I don’t sense it in politicians. 

Israel is one of those entangling alliances. Iran will not attack Israel, they are not dumb. Israel has a nuclear arsenal, while Iran has third rate military. The notion of such happenings are media hysteria as propaganda… We do not need to go around the world “fighting” terror in the name of “Democracy.” We need to prevent terror on this soil, and the best way to do that is leave the Middle East alone and provide resources to secure our border and our infrastructure. 

Watch this video…from minute 3:50 – 4:20… 

All the Best

Bird

The US defies the UN all the time. Israel has hundreds of nukes, and can defend themselves.

End all foreign aid. Ron Paul 2012!

Dennis – perhaps if called upon, in grave circumstance, the U.S. could help Israel. However, there is no need to diplomatically or militarily coddle Israel at this time. Every national problem we have now is a problem started by government intervention. Do you believe we need government out of our lives? I’m sure Israel needs our government out of their lives, too.

I actually think it’s the precise opposite. 

This is where I really like Ron Paul (as opposed to that domestic policy clown I call RoPaul). 

I don’t agree with him on everything on foreign policy, but he’s certainly right on the nature of the threat to Israel from Iran, 
and on the illegality of drone attacks into foreign sovereign nations, 
and on the inevitability that the US will maintain a military presence in Iraq until thrown out 
(and further, that the US government will assert a CIA and special ops military presence in Iraq even thereafter, as it has in Iran: for example, consider how the CIA has already taken down one legitimate Iranian government, and had a major hand, at least, in the assassinations of a number of key Iranian scientists in that country’s nuclear program).

Most of all, Ron Paul is absolutely correct about the US having become not just an imperialist power but the dominant one on the planet. The corollary to assuming that position is certain doom: every single other country that has ever become the dominant power has found itself the consensus #1 target of the rest of the world or effective world: Egypt, Carthage, Rome, Spain, Mongol China, the Ottoman Empire, Britain – all #1, all now in tatters.

Yet it’s not too late for the US. Believe it or not, there’s lots of goodwill internationally, still, from the interventions in the two European-based World Wars and the war against Imperial Japan, as well as with the former failed experiment that was the League of Nations and with the UN, even though the Republican party and conservatives expend enormous efforts against the last of those. Also, believe it or not, despite the drones & other assassinations, Obama himself has reserves of international goodwill, though that would be lost immediately upon the election of any one of the Republican candidates who give speeches longing for the lost imperial power – which, near as I can tell, is all of them except Ron Paul – and Jon Huntsman if one still counts him as a candidate (I exclude the other fringe candidates, because they don’t even enjoy the encouragement of Huntsman from the GOP establishment and his dad’s bank accounts.)

I would say beyond debatable: they were only invaded and occupied then to secure their oil reserves against being taken over by Germany & Italy. Iran has never been a belligerent towards the US since the US was established. Indeed, if you look into the history of Iran from 1900 to 1953, when the US took out its democratically-elected government, you will find that Iran consistently sought to pursue the US democratic republic, relying on US advisors and consultants more than any others in the world. 1953 of course changed all that.

Because they own so much of our debt. But you’ve hit the nail on the head in suggesting WHY they’ve bought up so much in US bonds.

You’re an idiot to keep up this idiotic meme. No President ever has done more to hunt down and kill particular anti-American terrorists than Obama. Indeed, Ron Paul himself is complaining about that. You can’t have it both ways: either Obama is over-aggressive to the point of being a war criminal on behalf of American national security, or he’s doing nothing and opening us up constantly to foreign attack. There is evidence that supports the former, which Ron Paul cites. There is NO evidence that supports the latter, indeed an abundance of evidence to the contrary. 

Those screaming caps represent right wing frustration with the fact that they can’t launch a credible attack on Obama’s commitment to national security. Expect to see more of that as we get closer and closer to November 2012. Obama has stolen the GOP’s playbook on foreign policy.

The right have such a shitty selection of songs from conservative singer-songwriters, they constantly steal from lefty ones. Anyway, Dylan fans don’t count – but Dylan himself does. 

Should have put all that in caps; that would have improved its credibility.

Boy oh boy are you ever setting yourself up for major disappointment in November 2012 if Obama wins re-election. And don’t even try to say that’s not possible: you know darn well the GOP wouldn’t be doing the horizontal mambo with Romney if it wasn’t for the fear that only he has a chance to beat Obama.

Well, we were a little sparse of population and institutions in those days, so it’s not an entirely fair comparison. Moreover, even if Washington were president today, no one would wish him to lead the nation into battle in any more than a figurative way: too much of the national prestige would be at stake to allow for the possibility of a stray bullet or friendly fire.

But also, other presidents COULD have done it if circumstances allowed: Teddy Roosevelt, for example. Ike. Probably Kennedy was out for medical reasons, like FDR. Ford and the elder Bush had war records, particularly the latter. Certainly Kerry, as much as that makes winger heads explode – Kerry showed the sort of courage in Viet Nam that would stand up to any comparison. I should think Andrew Jackson would go on this list, too. Definitely not Reagan or the younger Bush, though; we couldn’t have trusted Reagan not to float off on a cloud of his own imagination, as he did with that speech on his ‘experiences’ fightin’ in the double-u double-u two, and the younger Bush would go AWOL from his own command. If you want to include McCain, you’ll need to add in a bunch of extra planes for him to wreck.

John Bolton, with the help of Fox, while criticizing Obama, reveals the truth. Wars for oil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ09U_a80MM

Something crazy progressives were saying before the Iraq invasion.

I think the goal of our government is to not have all elected officials think alike.

The forces against Paul are considerable. Even if he were to get elected, and I doubt that will happen, he couldn’t get the changes he wants through congress. The people have to get involved and stay involved in a long term commitment to try and make the necessary changes. The 1st step is to stop bickering and being so easily manipulated and divided over partisan nonsense, and then to work to take corporate and special interest money out of our elections.

time to have your prescription checked. Something is terribly wrong.

Oh they’re NOT prescription.   That explains it.

and FTR; Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman are the only two candidates worth considering, and yet they can’t get anywhere near the front.

Huntsman’s a Democrat.

He’s a moderate, which is not a dirty word to me. He has some experience and clearly the intellectual grasp of the issues. I haven’t yet figured out whether he would be another front man for the powers behind the scenes, but he holds more promise than the front runners.

I think we’re at a place where the UN can influence the direction of sovereign nations , and should.

What’s all this “Constitutional Authority” crap Paul is now talking about.
Of course the President and the congress have the authority to “form entanglements.” Treaty powers are shared by the President and the Senate, and together they can do anything they want in terms of international relations, including making promises to support other countries and/or declaring war on them.
That is automatic for any sovereign nation.
Would Ron Paul really have us give up that sovereign right?

Your attempt at humor would be more laughable if you had him hiding in a hole in the ground at the end. You only come off as a raving maniac.

Reagan was an Army officer during WW II. He made training films in Hollywood.

Israel is not our 51st state.

I can’t take this growing terror that Obama and western leaders have no respect for human life. This POTUS is responsible for more drone killings than during Bush 2 terms combined. The laughter and boasting reveals and incredible lack of humanity and zero respect for the rule of law, a platform Obama campaign on. I’ve had enough. Dr Ron Paul has my vote because he is consistent in his beliefs. Peace, freedom, prosperity and most important of all, legalizing the constitution so that future POTUS are held accountable for war crimes. I’m a liberal democrat and I’ve registered as a republican to vote for Dr Ron Paul

Explain one thing to me, and if you can explain this thing to me, I will concede to you.

Ron Paul has received more campaign contributions from U.S. military personnel than all other Republican candidates espousing your view combined.

Paul has received over $36,000. The second highest receiver of military support is Herman Cain with $6,000.

Can you please explain to me why the very people fighting the wars are supporting Paul in such a wildly lopsided manner? Santorum talks your tough talk and the guy has gotten $250 from military personnel.

Simply explain this to me. I’d love to hear it.

Ron Paul has been polling in 3rd place for awhile now (ahead of Perry), wins most straw polls, and can outraise any candidate other than Perry/Romney. Huntsman is stuck at the bottom with Gary Johnson. The problem is that state media refuses to treat Ron Paul like a serious candidate, and most of the sheep still believe what comes out of the TV. Also, Hunstman is as believable as Obama when it comes to foreign policy and warmongering, i.e. anything he says is a lie.

This man is greatness and it is more than evident!

I’m glad the founders of this Nation didn’t hold the same mindset. The forces against them were considerable too BUT they believed in what they were doing and did what it took to win. “CAN’T” never could do anything and doubt is the first step toward defeat. Do what you can to help Ron Paul win, just worry about things you can do yourself. When you post “doubt” that RP can win, how is that helping him? You may make someone else doubt him too and not vote for him because of what you said. Why not post reasons to vote for him instead? After all, there are a lot of reasons to support him. He’s got a far better platform and track record than anyone else in the race and he’s by far the best educated and most well read candidate.

Israel has 200+ nukes! They would NEVER attack Israel. Look up Iran’s Navy and Air Force they are NOTHING and we should not be scared of Iran. Like Paul said, they have no ICBMs. They can’t even make enough fuel for themselves. It’s war propaganda! Don’t be fooled!

Foolish and scared position.

Try again. He said we wouldn’t need to do anything if Iran attacked Israel, because Israel could and would annihilate them on their own. He also said – quite rationally – that Iran will not attack Israel for this reason. He speaks what should be common sense. On foreign policy, he is the only SANE voice in the presidential field in either party.

That should be Muqtada al-Sadr, not Musa.

If you’ll LISTEN to what Ron Paul says HIMSELF and give it some thought, you’ll quickly see why he’s right on this and virtually every other issue. There’s no reason for him to change his position when he is right. Politicians that talk out of both sides of their mouth accomplish NOTHING good for anyone. We give 7 times as much aid to Israel’s enemies as we give to Israel. The USA funding and arming BOTH sides in these wars is pure NONSENSE and proves that we have people in office that only care about getting rich from wars. Israel has over 300 nukes that we know of, far more than anyone around them. They are financially secure and we are broke, why should we be funding them? End all foreign aid for everyone! It’s time we mind our own business and take care of our Country before we end up like the Soviet Union did.

I think we’re at a place where the UN can be abolished. Actually, I don’t think we were ever at a place where we should’ve joined the UN in the first place. Nowhere in the Constitution is government granted the power to cede any of its sovereignty to any other body.

While our politicians, lobbyists and news anchors get on television daily and threaten the Iranians and their government.

You cannot guide an ICBM without a global satellite network. I don’t think anyone believes Iran will attempt to create that kind of capability, I think people are worried they will simply manufacture enriched uranium or plutonium and give it to terrorists who will use it on us in the form of a bomb. We should have a free trade agreement with Iran in exchange for them ending their nuclear power program. We are pushing them towards a no-win scenario.

It doesn’t matter if he wins or loses. His campaign has gotten serious attention and his message is resonating with Americans. They will demand more from their leaders and the Federal Reserve is going to continue to be pummeled until they open their books and everyone sees what Bernie Sanders, Jim Trafficante,  Ron Paul, and Jesse Ventura have all been hinting at for years; we live in a monetary aristocracy. Money is printed for the benefit of the 1% and government, not the people. Every economic plan regardless of which party proposes it, is always designed to give money away to the investor class and hopefully it trickles down to the average American. This is wrong. Money in the form of credit and capital should be available to everyone equally to pursue their dreams. If we funded individual’s to do what they want to do in life instead of what they tolerate, accept or settle for, America would be full of businesses and people would be happy. Here are the numbers;

29,000 people on Earth worth 100 million or more

967,300 people on Earth worth 10-100 million

1,959,000 people on Earth worth 5-10 million

26,724,200 people on Earth worth 1-5 million

In the United States there are,

959 Billionaires

1,470 Multi-Multi Millionaires

236,883 earning a million or more a year

8,274 earning 10 million or more per year

These people represent 93% of all the money, wealth, property, stocks and assets in this country. Why?

“The U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press (or today, its electronic
equivalent), that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at no
cost.”

-Ben Bernanke, Chairman Federal Reserve

back to earth please. YES Israel has hundreds of nukes that they can wipe away Iran without any difficulty. that’s the exact reason iran would never try to nuke Isreal or us.  mutually assured destruction.  lets stop the warmongering and really try peace for once.

If Iran posed a real nuclear threat to Israel they would bomb the reactor just like they bombed Iraq’s in 1981. They are a power more than capable of defending themselves. 

Back to earth, Ron? To me, the notion of Iran having 10,000 nuclear weapons is what seems just a little far-fetched. They don’t even have one right now. As Paul and others point out, they hardly have enough gasoline for themselves. So somehow they’ll build a nuclear missile and, without thinking of their own imminent obliteration, launch it at Israel? Israel has like 30 of those things, and from what I gather, they’d hardly think twice about using it when they felt threatened. This is a phantom of a possibility, and yet it’s the same old boogeyman Republicans and Democrats alike keep returning to keep us scared and beholden to this ridiculous and unsustainable notion of America as Policeman. Please!

Sorry, but I guess W.’s grand scheme of preemptive war had no sobering effects on the American public. The precedent has been set, we are apparently free to do so again so long as we can effectively bill the crime as “the lesser of two evils” or “for America’s safety” or some other see-through rhetoric. 

Your metaphor fails to hold up to sound reasoning: My neighbor might have been threatening the last ten years to kill me, but why should I worry if he neither has raw material and know-how to build his gun, nor the resources to buy one, nor the courage to pull the trigger? Let his empty threats be exactly what they are, and we’ll get busy minding our own business.

To Dennis, the U.S. defies the U.N as well. If we never defied the U.N., then that would be a world government, and therefore the U.S. is not a sovereign nation.
 
And there are many more dangerous threats than Iran. There is Syria, North Korea, China ,etc. etc.
 
Every nation is a threat to a degree to our sovereign rule, and we are a threat to every other nation. It’s a part of the penalty of being a nation-state.
 
If you only knew what our CIA does on a regular basis, you could easily put them up their with Al-queda, and the Tali-ban. All of our oppressive forces, military, secret services etc., are all nation-based and funded. That makes it all the worse that we put the CIA up on a pedestal.
Labeling our enemies with special terms is quite childish, and dangerous. You can’t call the Libyan government a regime, unless you call the U.S. a regime. These are basic political terms, and to demagogue the people with only using them against certain chosen groups is quite literally evil, and perpetuating ignorance in the world.

The 2 BushDrunks have guaranteed that US troops will forever be in Iraq.  Hope your kids are approaching the proper age for service.

Good point.  Only people we agree with, like Israel for instance, should be able to have nuclear weapons. It’s fascinating to me how you people don’t even understand the incredibly fundamental inconsistencies/hypocrisies in your very own arguments.

The truth of the matter is what you call the “fringe” is just consistent and sensical ideology.  What’s normal to you is the kind of double think you’ve just exhibited.

Interesting. Why do you say anything Huntsman says is a lie?

You don’t know what my mindset is. I’m not a conservative or registered republican so I can’t vote for Paul in any primary. I’m saying that as a left leaning moderate I still value his honesty and agree with him on certain issues. That’s what I tell my conservative friends , or even my liberal friends. I hope the republican base and the primary voters who do decide who their candidate will be choose Paul, rather than Romney or Perry, because I couldn’t consider voting for either one of them.
There is IMO, wide spread corruption in both parties that needs to be addressed by the public as well as sincere candidates like Paul. To  do that we need to learn how to communicate with each other and stop being so easily manipulated by corporate media.

I think that’s nonsense. Working with other nations is not ceding our authority any more than signing and adhering to a treaty is. Pretty sure the folks who signed he Constitution did some of that. We can not move forward in the modern world without working with the nations we share the planet with. The UN, as a man made entity , has it’s problems and those can be addressed, but it seems foolish to thing we can withdraw from the world and still thrive. We are in no way ceding our sovereignty to have a forum in which to communicate with other nations.

You sound like you have enough on the ball to see that Obama is owned by the same crooks that owned Bush… (that’s why Obama policy looks just like Bush policy).

If that’s the case why not register as a Republican so you can help put Ron Paul in office? It only take a few clicks online to change your party and you can always change back later. You’d be setting a great example for the people you talk to if you prove to them you’ll vote for the best person, not the party you like.

Something to consider. And changing parties doesn’t change my conscience in the general election. I’ll look into it.

Me either! :)

If you’re going to do it don’t put it off. I read that in some states you have to change your party about 3 months before the primary to be able to vote.

CosmosDan, the UN isn’t “The World”, it’s a global governance organization that no one in America ever consented to. Saying that withdrawing from the UN is “withdrawing from the world” is a complete crock of shit. Withdrawing from the UN would result in us regaining sovereignty, no longer allowing a foreign body to, among other things, drag us into wars where we have no interest. People like you like to conveniently forget that the UN dragged us into the invasion of North Korea — which FAILED and needlessly cost of lives. Funny how they call it the “Forgotten War” — try telling that to the families of veterans killed by a UN-led invasion.

It might be scary for Jerusalem but not scary to most of us Americans.  What’s more scary to most of us is being forced to die for foreign countries and foreign governments that have absolutely NOTHING to do with America.  Why should Americans die for for any country other than their own?