No, Chuck. I’m EXTREME-ly pissed off because I know exactly how government works because I’ve been watching you assholes screwing us all over for years now.

Certainly Schmucky meant big oil “companies” like OPEC?. And Brazillian oil industry, right?

The latter is certainly true.

Nice to see Chuck sticking to the parties talking points… regardless of reality or how he really feels. Keep up the propaganda campaign Chuck. :)

Upchuck is another one of the laughing stock of the fringe left. Dinjee Harry made a fool of himself today, as well.

boy, comments coming from people who feel alluded to.

“He also wanted to give Tea Party supporters a lesson in how the American government works”

that’s rich coming from the guy who said we have three houses of government, the house, the senate and the president. not only that, he doesn’t know what services are actually shut down when the govt. shuts down…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG0Jpu9geWY

We’ve got yer “Extreme”. Here’s a compromise for you: straighten up & fly “right” and we may not fire your azz.
By the time this election cycle is over, the Extreme Tea Party should be just about fired up enough to start impeaching and recalling the rest of you clowns. Your old rules no longer apply, and folks are figuring it out. Sucks to be y’all…

Student loan debt in this country has passed credit card debt, somewhere in the area of $850 BILLION. The debt cannot be discharged, stiff fees and penalties await many graduating with a piece of paper and no job. Are you ready for the higher education bubble to burst, yet Chucky? Keep subsidizing junk paper, Chuck.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/college/2010-09-10-student-loan-debt_N.htm

Question: what happens when government subsidizes tuition? Answer: Tuition goes UP,UP, UP…

And WHY did 0bama want to take over loans??? http://www(dot)collegescholarships.org/research/student-loans/ It ain’t pretty, and Mediaite won’t allow the link…

Chuck should also mention how these tea party pukes will always reply with the answer “tax rates are too high” when asked about why so many big profitable U.S. corporations pay no tax.

Chucky is an older , tranquilized Weiner .

whoaa! the reactions. a lot of people feel guilty of what schumer said.

mandennis said:
whoaa! the reactions. a lot of people feel guilty of what schumer said.

Whoa! Like who?

Schumer’s face clearly turned red when he was asked this question. Red, yeah, that’s the color libs like.

same2u said:
Chuck should also mention how these tea party pukes will always reply with the answer “tax rates are too high” when asked about why so many big profitable U.S. corporations pay no tax.

Son, the TPs are NOT referring to Corporate tax rates when they talk about taxes. Try again!

33% support the tea party, they are a non factor at this point bye douchebags.

notsofast said:
Son, the TPs are NOT referring to Corporate tax rates when they talk about taxes. Try again!

so, you mean TPs “talk about taxes” which are too high for the rich?

notsofast said:
Son, the TPs are NOT referring to Corporate tax rates when they talk about taxes. Try again!

If I actually thought you believed that I would take the time to find one of many interviews I have seen where they were addressing the corporate tax rate.

Pablo said:
Whoa! Like who?

Like you!

ndanielson said:
Student loan debt in this country has passed credit card debt, somewhere in the area of $850 BILLION. The debt cannot be discharged, stiff fees and penalties await many graduating with a piece of paper and no job. Are you ready for the higher education bubble to burst, yet Chucky? Keep subsidizing junk paper, Chuck.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/college/2010-09-10-student-loan-debt_N.htm

Question: what happens when government subsidizes tuition? Answer: Tuition goes UP,UP, UP…

And WHY did 0bama want to take over loans??? http://www(dot)collegescholarships.org/research/student-loans/ It ain’t pretty, and Mediaite won’t allow the link…

Sometime, look up the statistics at the Chronicle of Higher Education at how salaries have increased for college presidents and how tuition has become inflated. The increases are simply RIDICULOUS.

Nice try Chuck, but I smell a newly opened can of conservative shellack in the morally bankrupt democrat parties immediate future.

Don’t blame us when you get your _____’s handed to you for your parties complicity in deliberatly conspiring to shut down the federal government next week. ( let’s go to the video tape ). You and the rest of your ilk were warned big time during the mid term election of the consequences that would await your party if your didn’t clean up your act.

Instead of repenting, you morons instead decided among yourselves to follow the narcissistic _____ in the White House right over the edge of the cliff……..bon voyage porky carcass……..you guys will never learn.

It is amazingly funny to hear an ultra lib elitist like shumer calling the Tea Party extreme . I personally think its time an extreme faction came along to give the Extreme Elitist Liberals a run for their ( reads other peopls ) money. Reid and Shumer are both jokes, and its nice to see Pelosi is still as cuuukoooo as she always was.

same2u said:
If I actually thought you believed that I would take the time to find one of many interviews I have seen where they were addressing the corporate tax rate.

Like this, son?

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Stephen Ohlemacher, Associated Press – Wed Jan 26, 10:23 am ET

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama’s call to lower corporate tax rates is popular among business leaders and lawmakers from both parties. That support, however, won’t be easy to maintain if the president ever gets specific about how to pay for the lower taxes.”

mandennis said:
so, you mean TPs “talk about taxes” which are too high for the rich?

Barry thought so! He kept their tax rates the same.

mandennis said:
so, you mean TPs “talk about taxes” which are too high for the rich?

Son, you have to have a job to know about tax rates, and you don’t.

After reading most of the posts here, I see just how far ones head must be up their own ASS to believe the t-party is doing something good for this country. They will be the death of democracy if people don’t come to their senses and vote these aaaholes Goverenors and legislators out, that “citizens unioted” helped put into office.

I know how precisely government works – just look at these wars, deficit and debt.

Tedderman said:
After reading most of the posts here, I see just how far ones head must be up their own ASS to believe the t-party is doing something good for this country. They will be the death of democracy if people don’t come to their senses and vote these aaaholes Goverenors and legislators out, that “citizens unioted” helped put into office.

Son, you prove that there is no vaccine against stupidity.

Schumer’s arrogance knows no bounds.

Big Eddie said:
Chucky is an older , tranquilized Weiner .

anti-semite.

same2u said:
Chuck should also mention how these tea party pukes will always reply with the answer “tax rates are too high” when asked about why so many big profitable U.S. corporations pay no tax.

You mean like GE? Exxon, BOA and GE, among others, paid no corporate tax and who may I ask has been the President for the last 2 1/2 years? Both parties are filled with corporatists. Another point, more bailsouts have been ID’d in O-Bomb-aCare. GE, which paid no taxes, received money. No one is saying that is right. It’s just more proof that these two parties are the same.

Ron Paul for Peace and Liberty – Dems/Repubs for more war.

notsofast said:
Son, you prove that there is no vaccine against stupidity.

Instead of ‘Son,’ I would have said, ‘Small Communist Child.’ But everything that followed was spot-on.

The Tea Party’s mantra is very simple: “STOP the SPENDING” The Greatest Generation birthed
the Un-Grateful Brat Baby Boomer Generation. They were given a great Nation / Republic &
by their spending; they are ruining the future of every generation to follow.

So Chuckie Schumer thinks balancing the budget and paying off the national debt is “extreme”. Now you know why our country is in such dire fiscal condition.

Chuck U. Schumer,

While I don’t hold a “Tea Party Membership Card” (I don’t think there IS such a thing [not like a Union membership card, for example]) – I DO know how Government “is functioning” (I don’t say “works”, because there is VERY LITTLE “working” going on [at least NOT on behalf of the American Taxpayer]).

I KNOW that Government (that means YOU, senator Schumer) SPENDS TOO DAMN MUCH, and TAXES US TOO DAMN MUCH!

While I’m OPPOSED to Federal Tax Dollars going to BOTH Studen Aid AND Oil Companies – at LEAST the Oil Companies (especially DOMESTIC Oil Companies [NOT Brazilian Oil Companies]) – produce JOBS. Student Aid, on the other hand, produces JOB SEEKERS.

Without JOBS, those Student Loans DON’T GET repaid, and once again, WE, THE TAXPAYER are stuck with the bill!

Just an example: Here in my State of California, 70% of Community College students NEVER obtain their Associates (2-year) “degree” (and go on to higher education). WHY, then, should WE, THE TAXPAYER be giving THEM money (only to see it go down the drain)?

WHY are Liberals so DETERMINED to KILL off the Oil Industry BEFORE there is sufficient (or an economical) REPLACEMENT for Fosil Fuels?

Our GREAT California University system installed a bunch of “Green Energy” systems – and ONE of those wind turbines (of which we here such GREAT promise) can BARELY generate enough power for ONE 60-watt light bulb. The entire expense of installing this “green energy” system is over 200 YEARS worth of existing Electicity Bills! And WE’RE supposed to jump on board, because AlGore and Chucky Schumer say so? I say, DRILL, Baby, DRILL!

More Liberty5 said:
Ron Paul for Peace and Liberty

And cute bumperstickers.

Why wouldn’t Medite include a clip of Chuck U saying he was instructed to call the tea party extreme?

[Racist] Me Badd is back accusing people of racism… his shift at Media Matters must have just ended…

Publius219 said:
The latter is certainly true.

OH, were you at the same meeting when they told Senator Schummer to use the word extreme or did you just follow his subsequent intructions. Good to see all the libs independently repeating the talking points that they have been given.

Mark Ward said:
Chuck U. Schumer,

While I don’t hold a “Tea Party Membership Card” (I don’t think there IS such a thing [not like a Union membership card, for example]) – I DO know how Government “is functioning” (I don’t say “works”, because there is VERY LITTLE “working” going on [at least NOT on behalf of the American Taxpayer]).

I KNOW that Government (that means YOU, senator Schumer) SPENDS TOO DAMN MUCH, and TAXES US TOO DAMN MUCH!

While I’m OPPOSED to Federal Tax Dollars going to BOTH Studen Aid AND Oil Companies – at LEAST the Oil Companies (especially DOMESTIC Oil Companies [NOT Brazilian Oil Companies]) – produce JOBS. Student Aid, on the other hand, produces JOB SEEKERS.

Without JOBS, those Student Loans DON’T GET repaid, and once again, WE, THE TAXPAYER are stuck with the bill!

Just an example: Here in my State of California, 70% of Community College students NEVER obtain their Associates (2-year) “degree” (and go on to higher education). WHY, then, should WE, THE TAXPAYER be giving THEM money (only to see it go down the drain)?

WHY are Liberals so DETERMINED to KILL off the Oil Industry BEFORE there is sufficient (or an economical) REPLACEMENT for Fosil Fuels?

Our GREAT California University system installed a bunch of “Green Energy” systems – and ONE of those wind turbines (of which we here such GREAT promise) can BARELY generate enough power for ONE 60-watt light bulb. The entire expense of installing this “green energy” system is over 200 YEARS worth of existing Electicity Bills! And WE’RE supposed to jump on board, because AlGore and Chucky Schumer say so? I say, DRILL, Baby, DRILL!

Libs want to make things “equal”; Conservatives want to make things better. That’s why liberals seemingly sabotage everything that seems right and why they elevate everything that seems wrong.

Watch the talk “How Modern Liberals Think” by Evan Sayet. Evan used to be a writer for Bill Maher. if you want to get an idea of why libs are like they are, then watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c It’s not short, but it’w well worth it.

same2u said:
Chuck should also mention how these tea party pukes will always reply with the answer “tax rates are too high” when asked about why so many big profitable U.S. corporations pay no tax.

You mean companies like GE who are heavey Democrat Party contributors?

Color Me Badd said:
anti-semite.

Neither of them ever worked in private industry. They know nothing but government.

Color Me Badd said:
33% support the tea party, they are a non factor at this point bye douchebags.

Funny. Last I heard there were somewhere around 18% supporting the progressives. I’ll take 33 over 18 any day. ;)

Color Me Badd said:
33% support the tea party, they are a non factor at this point bye douchebags.

33% of who, Iowan voters? you don’t think 33%, one third, is a significant percentage block?

Let’snot overlook the fact that Chuck Schumer is a relentless spokesman for himself and his long time cronies in the Democratic organization.I think he was my Representative when we lived in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn.He will go to a library opening or a community demonstration about a traffic light. Nice guy, good stance on the trial. He is just afraid of the Tea Party helping the Republicans win in 2012. That is the only reason those on the Left are defaming them only to see them come out as fine people. Whatever Chuck Schumer says about the Tea Party or any one on his side of the fence, their numbers are swelling and their power and support is growing. The fact is a vote counts and we will be adding the Tea Party ranks to disgruntled Independents and abstainers. Looks like a huge Republican win in 2012.

sarainitaly said:
33% of who, Iowan voters? you don’t think 33%, one third, is a significant percentage block?

[Closet Racist] Me Badd is not too bright…

“…the ONE group that is standing in the way…” “The Tea Party IS the group standing in the way. They ARE extreme.”-Sen. Schumer

Article I, [Section 7.] “All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.”-Constitution of The United States of America

The current budget battle is for funding FY2010. Prior to January 2011, Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Executive Branch. The Democrats in the House FAILED to even offer a FY2010 budget, a duty required by the Constitution. After January 2011, the Republican controlled House of Representatives passed HR 1 to fund the government until the end of FY 2011. The Senate HAS YET to hold a vote on HR1, offer amendments to HR1, or pass a funding proposal of their own.

Senator Schumer, THE ONLY group “standing in the way” is the Democrat controlled US Senate, Sen. Reid, yourself, and others in “leadership” positions of the Senate Democrats. To refer to yourselves as “leaders” is ludicrous and an insult to those who ARE actually leading. Quit your whining and offer a funding resolution for a vote on the floor of the Senate. And please, before you attempt to “school” others on “how government works,” try doing some government work instead of partisan political work!!!

Christine Schumer…another draft-dodging chicken-hawk punk from the Socialist-Dimwit party…

“What did you do during the Viet Nam war, daddy?”…”I hid in the closet, child.”

Liberals voted for Obozo to prove they weren’t prejudiced.
Who will Liberals vote for next time to prove they aren’t stupid.

Only 21 more months ’til we evict the Marxist Buffoon from the Oval Office & cancel “Amateur Hour” from the White House.

NOBAMA 2012

“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink.” P.J.O’Rourke

Tedderman said:
After reading most of the posts here, I see just how far ones head must be up their own ASS to believe the t-party is doing something good for this country. They will be the death of democracy if people don’t come to their senses and vote these aaaholes Goverenors and legislators out, that “citizens unioted” helped put into office.

Schumer reaffirms TP doesn’t know how government works? Oh I beg to differ, I think Americans have woken up as to how far these progressive Marxists have driven us off the Constitutional reservation. Ted and his pack of takers haven’t got a clue! Newsflash, where only getting started and as far as the governors in states, we’re onto your public union money laundering scam to the Democrat party and it’s going to stop!

The Tea Party is their on worst enemy. “don’t trust the census” they lose representation due to redistricting..”Don’t trust vaccines” Their children d ie young…” Not to mention , I personally know a woman who is very big into the Tea Party, fiscally conservative, small government movement. What does she do for a living ? Writes Government grants for the Government. But in her defense, she spends most of her day on facebook.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

So schumer doesnt think Tea Partiers know anything about Government. Thats so funny coming from a fool who believes the 3 elements of Government are the Libs the Conservs and El presidente. But make no mistake, the Libs need Schumer. They need a fool who will stand up and spout the Liberal mantra from the FAR LEFT even when every thing they do or stand for is collapsing around them. They are good at only 3 things, TAXING SPENDING and BLAMING OTHERS They have to go and NOW. With them take the Unions who will go down still screaming that we cant fire incompetent idiots who are suppose to teach our kids, that we have to have 4 Union Workers to do the job any 2 honest workers could do, that Union workers are worth the high salaries and pensions BECAUSE THEY ARE UNION and for no other reason. What a terrible joke, an organization for workers that has killed more US jobs than any other entity known to man. Pure thugs.

Tedderman said:
After reading most of the posts here, I see just how far ones head must be up their own ASS to believe the t-party is doing something good for this country. They will be the death of democracy if people don’t come to their senses and vote these aaaholes Goverenors and legislators out, that “citizens unioted” helped put into office.

Well it is refreshing to see a voice of reason Tedderman. The t party keeps ranting about cutting the budget, but what they fail to understand is that we are still in a recession. And you can’t cut your way out of a recession, you have to spend your way out! Roosevelt did it in the thirties and Esienhower did it in the fifties. The more cuts you make the more jobs the economy loses. This leads to only two things, more people on federal assistance programs such as unemployment and less people able to pay thier taxes. In the meantime corporations like get huge tax rebates while they pay nothing! I guess their phrase ‘taxed enough already’ only applies to those with a yearly income of five hundred thousand!

Montecore said:
Well it is refreshing to see a voice of reason Tedderman. The t party keeps ranting about cutting the budget, but what they fail to understand is that we are still in a recession. And you can’t cut your way out of a recession, you have to spend your way out! Roosevelt did it in the thirties and Esienhower did it in the fifties. The more cuts you make the more jobs the economy loses. This leads to only two things, more people on federal assistance programs such as unemployment and less people able to pay thier taxes. In the meantime corporations like get huge tax rebates while they pay nothing! I guess their phrase ‘taxed enough already’ only applies to those with a yearly income of five hundred thousand!

Mmmmm….Talking Point Stew, now with 75% less substance!

The President’s budget request

Congressional consideration of the federal budget begins once the President of the United States submits a budget request, which is formulated over a period of months with the assistance of the Office of Management and Budget, the largest office within the Executive Office of the President. The budget request includes funding requests for all federal executive departments and independent agencies.
The President submits the budget request each year to Congress for the following fiscal year, as required by the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921. Current law (31 U.S.C. 1105(a))[4] requires the President to submit a budget no earlier than the first Monday in January, and no later than the first Monday in February. Typically, Presidents submit budgets on the first Monday in February.
The President’s budget request constitutes an extensive proposal of the administration’s intended spending and revenue plans for the following fiscal year. The budget proposal includes volumes of supporting information intended to persuade Congress of the necessity and value of the budget provisions. In addition, each federal executive department and independent agency provides additional detail and supporting documentation to Congress on its own funding requests.
[edit]Budget resolution

The next step is the drafting of a budget resolution. The United States House Committee on the Budget and the United States Senate Committee on the Budget are responsible for drafting budget resolutions. Following the traditional calendar, by early April both committees finalize their drafts and submit it to their respective floors for consideration and adoption.
A budget resolution, which is one form of a concurrent resolution, binds Congress, but is not a law, and so does not require the President’s signature. The budget resolution serves as a blueprint for the actual appropriation process, and provides Congress with some control over the appropriations process. No new spending authority, however, is provided until appropriation bills are enacted.
Once both houses pass the resolution, selected Representatives and Senators negotiate a conference report to reconcile differences between the House and the Senate versions. The conference report, in order to become binding, must be approved by both the House and Senate.

………………………….

Dems won’t pass budget in 2010
By Jared Allen – 06/22/10 12:01 AM ET
House Democrats will not pass a budget blueprint in 2010, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) will confirm in a speech on Tuesday.

Who doesn’t know how the government works?

“Tea Party…Doesn’t Know How Government Works”

Let’s not forget that nitwit schumer also believes that the three branches of government are “the House, the Senate, and the president”.

Wisconsin will be a battle ground state this week. I hope they stop the union bullying tactics.
A funny but sarcastic video on this subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvGMAqyS2IY

It’s kind of funny to hear Schumer complaining of the Tea Party’s “our way or no way” attitude, seeing as how Democrats have defined bipartisanship as “Republicans giving up everything and doing what we want” for as long as I can remember.

It’s absolutely true that the tea party doesn’t understand how government works. Someone ought to explain to them that if politicians like Chuck Schumer want to get re-elected they need to waste hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars each year on favors for their donors. Why can’t these teabaggers figure this out?

Oh, right, idiot Schumer loves the money-guzzling unions but hates oil companies. And he doesn’t even go anywhere near what the problems with the right really are. As for this “our way or no way” um, how to put this? Hahahahahahahaha! That’s the democrat way! And if they can’t connive people into agreement with them, the Schumerites turn to all out bullying. Yeah, running the country should be their job, not.

Skummer appeared before the cameras on CNBC about a year or so ago and said the American people don’t want their taxes cut

Come on lets have a shutdown and lets’s see how the freaking GOP survives the next general election. Lets see how they’ll explain to voters that they listened to the whack jobs.

While the Democrats lie,lie,lie, the T Party tries to fix the problem.Giving unions money and power will not fix America. The act of allowing the people to level the budget will do more for the nation than anything else.
Here in Australia we have the ugliest woman in the world as PM and she wants to create a carbon tax.
She belongs with the Democrats,thats for sure.She empowers unions too because without them she would not be PM.

Montecore said:
Well it is refreshing to see a voice of reason Tedderman. The t party keeps ranting about cutting the budget, but what they fail to understand is that we are still in a recession. And you can’t cut your way out of a recession, you have to spend your way out! Roosevelt did it in the thirties and Esienhower did it in the fifties. The more cuts you make the more jobs the economy loses. This leads to only two things, more people on federal assistance programs such as unemployment and less people able to pay thier taxes. In the meantime corporations like get huge tax rebates while they pay nothing! I guess their phrase ‘taxed enough already’ only applies to those with a yearly income of five hundred thousand!

Looks like YOU understand how government works just as well as Schumer does. The problem is, neither of you can produce so much as a single instance where your prescriptions didn’t extend the recessions or depressions in which they were applied. Maybe that’s what UpChuck means…………………bad is good, and of we can’t understand that, we just don’t know how government works.

If America’s founders were alive today, UpChuck would be calling them “extreme.” But the only thing he proves aside from his chosen anti-American agenda, is that he has no shame in following his blown cover for instructing the DimBots to recite “extremist” at every opportunity.

Here’s a look at Senate Democrats’ playbook for budget negotiations: 1) refuse to pass a bill, 2) root for a government shutdown, and 3) paint the spending cuts demanded by the American people as “extreme.”

http://www.speaker.gov/Blog/?postid=232080

I’m sorry, maybe I’m being dense here, but isn’t the Tea Party kinda being a bit obstinate? It strikes me as they just want everything, but not to pay for it. Now, while I understand that the Republicans rode in on their backs, but I don’t think that this religious fringe group has that much power? Obviously, the Repubs only worship money and power, not really God, so now that they have the seats, why don’t they just marginalize the extreme right wingers who are giving everyone a bad rep?

Also, I have to say that the Righties on the Mediaite boards are really pretty condescending and snotty. The Dems aren’t great either, but man, guys like notsofast and Barack Must Go just seem argumentative for the sake of being difficult. I have to think that in real life, you guys must tone it down, because you’d be pretty miserable, sad bastards to hang around with.

dear ProudCanadian,

Though quite misinformed, you seem like a reasonable chap. So I don’t mind being of assistance by setting the record straight and helping correct many of your stated misconceptions.

The Tea Party is not a political party, it is not a religious fringe group, nor even a religious group. It is a movement, slightly over 2 years in existence, that does not possess nor profess a unanimity of thought. As a whole, it is far from being extreme right-wing.

Your claim that “they just want everything, but not to pay for it,” lacks any supporting evidence, or even an example of what “they want” for which they don’t want to pay.

Your statement, “Obviously, the Repubs only worship money and power, not really God…” breaches the dishonest tactic of giving a false premise based argumentum ad hominem that begins with an “Obviously” false claim of authority.

I truly hope my comment doesn’t come across as condescending.

Raw ignorance knows no – extremes.

Davo said:
Looks like YOU understand how government works just as well as Schumer does. The problem is, neither of you can produce so much as a single instance where your prescriptions didn’t extend the recessions or depressions in which they were applied. Maybe that’s what UpChuck means…………………bad is good, and of we can’t understand that, we just don’t know how government works.

If America’s founders were alive today, UpChuck would be calling them “extreme.” But the only thing he proves aside from his chosen anti-American agenda, is that he has no shame in following his blown cover for instructing the DimBots to recite “extremist” at every opportunity.

Yes.

You said “If America’s founders were alive today, UpChuck would be calling them ‘extreme.’”

To the tyrants who ran Britain then and the liberals/tyrants who keep gaining more control now, the Founders were extremists.

From the viewpoint of normal people, it’s the liberals who are extremists.

“Schumer Reaffirms Tea Party Is ‘Extreme’ And Doesn’t Know How Government Works”

I Swear, Schumer would not know what to say if he did not get his Democratic Talking points.

It is time for NY to elect a new Senator…this guy is a laughing stock.

Alz said:
Yes.

You said “If America’s founders were alive today, UpChuck would be calling them ‘extreme.’”

To the tyrants who ran Britain then and the liberals/tyrants who keep gaining more control now, the Founders were extremists.

From the viewpoint of normal people, it’s the liberals who are extremists.

Liberals in America have become SO un-American, that I’m sure many of the rank and file (Dims) have come to actually believe rights to life, liberty, and ownership of property without government micro-management…………..as “extreme.” The failure of the national “education” system to engage in actual education rather than anti-American orientation is a major factor in the deception.

Remember the “10 Commandments in the Democrat Playbook?” They have been successful in implementing no.’s 2 and 6:

2. Always remember to use the deception that has brought us to power. For example, if you author a bill to raise taxes, name it “The Tax Reduction Bill.” If we need to confiscate more freedom, call the effort “The Increased Freedom Initiative.” That’s the way to get things done. By the time the “little people” figure it out, you will have stirred enough hatred against Republicans that they will still support you.

6. Repeat a lie often enough for our voter base to accept it as truth. Always spin a defeat as a victory for your side and your opponent’s victory as a failure, no matter how uncomfortable you may be in doing so. Remember, our voters are emotional, not logical, and they easily led to think what we tell them to think, and repeat what we tell them to repeat.

It’s good to see that most of the people posting here are educated. But the bad thing is that they are also educated fools.

ramjet said:
dear ProudCanadian, Though quite misinformed, you seem like a reasonable chap. So I don’t mind being of assistance by setting the record straight and helping correct many of your stated misconceptions. The Tea Party is not a political party, it is not a religious fringe group, nor even a religious group. It is a movement, slightly over 2 years in existence, that does not possess nor profess a unanimity of thought. As a whole, it is far from being extreme right-wing. Your claim that “they just want everything, but not to pay for it,” lacks any supporting evidence, or even an example of what “they want” for which they don’t want to pay. Your statement, “Obviously, the Repubs only worship money and power, not really God…” breaches the dishonest tactic of giving a false premise based argumentum ad hominem that begins with an “Obviously” false claim of authority. I truly hope my comment doesn’t come across as condescending.

Yes, at it’s inception, the “Tea Party” was an independant series of events that were held during the spring of 2009. They really started to draw more attendance as more Americans became unemployed that summer and professional lobbying groups in Washinton D.C. started providing organizational support (Freedomworks” and corporate money for national bus tours (California Republican political consultant Sal Russo’s “Tea Party Express.)
Seantor Rand Paul spoke at some of the earliest Tea Party rallies in Kentucky and has written about the reasons for repealing ObamaCare:

http://www.flixya.com/blog/2882010/Tea-Party-Senator-On-ObamaCare

There is some conservative “think tank” or foundation that is supplying all the Republican politicians with a plan for “reducing the federal budget deficit” and “cutting government spending” that is going to be revealed later. Senator Rand Paul writes about “reforming Social Security”:

http://www.flixya.com/blog/2881961/Tea-Party-Senator-On-Social-Security

Montecore:

I know Liberals enjoy rewriting history but, your remarks are truly ignorant of the facts. President Eisenhower lowered government spending to help stop inflation, and Roosevelt prolonged the depression by years with his “spend us out of the depression” program. Lowering taxes, and regulations stimulate growth in business. Allowing small-business to keep earned revenue, they become more inclined to reinvest in business growth which results in a larger working force. You can keep on listening to the Liberal-beggars entitilement rhetoric and live in a perpetual state of dependence if you like but, for the rest of us in the Tea-Party, responsibility, and common-sense will be demanded of this government. Which means, shrinking this government, lowering taxes, and getting them the hell out of our private lives.

ramjet says:
Your statement, “Obviously, the Repubs only worship money and power, not really God…” breaches the dishonest tactic of giving a false premise based argumentum ad hominem that begins with an “Obviously” false claim of authority.

I truly hope my comment doesn’t come across as condescending.
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How can you breach a dishonest tactic, then at that point not make it “honest”, then you threw in a double false on the same topic? Can we spell pompous B.S. !!!
I truly hope my comment doesn’t come across as condescending. You have to say something that makes sense first!

What Mr. Schumer MEANT to say is the Tea Party KNOWS how government works and does not like the way he and his cohorts are running things.

Skyfet:

When you get on right, you get it right! Yes Sir, shutting down the government is exactly what the mush-head Democrats want. It’s not about trying to balance a budget, as you’ve so intently pointed out, it’s about politics! Make the other guy look bad even if it means hurting the country, that’s the Liberal-ticket. And to think, none of us would have ever noticed that, had you not come to our collective rescue.

Davo said:
Liberals in America have become SO un-American, that I’m sure many of the rank and file (Dims) have come to actually believe rights to life, liberty, and ownership of property without government micro-management…………..as “extreme.” The failure of the national “education” system to engage in actual education rather than anti-American orientation is a major factor in the deception.

Remember the “10 Commandments in the Democrat Playbook?” They have been successful in implementing no.’s 2 and 6:

2. Always remember to use the deception that has brought us to power. For example, if you author a bill to raise taxes, name it “The Tax Reduction Bill.” If we need to confiscate more freedom, call the effort “The Increased Freedom Initiative.” That’s the way to get things done. By the time the “little people” figure it out, you will have stirred enough hatred against Republicans that they will still support you.

6. Repeat a lie often enough for our voter base to accept it as truth. Always spin a defeat as a victory for your side and your opponent’s victory as a failure, no matter how uncomfortable you may be in doing so. Remember, our voters are emotional, not logical, and they easily led to think what we tell them to think, and repeat what we tell them to repeat.

You’re a good man, Davo. Keep it up – far and wide!

Alz says:
You’re a good man, Davo. Keep it up – far and wide!
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Alz, I know you believe this tea propaganda, but increased taxes ! That can be checked! Confiscated freedoms, we don’t have time for that Beck lie! Alz, you are sharper than that! I enjoy your rants, but “Davo your a good man” !The world can’t handle that love child! The difference between you two is you believe this spin crap and Davo is just there for the tea hate!

timcajun said:
Alz says:
You’re a good man, Davo. Keep it up – far and wide!
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Alz, I know you believe this tea propaganda, but increased taxes ! That can be checked! Confiscated freedoms, we don’t have time for that Beck lie! Alz, you are sharper than that! I enjoy your rants, but “Davo your a good man” !The world can’t handle that love child! The difference between you two is you believe this spin crap and Davo is just there for the tea hate!

I agree with what he said. A great example is the card-check bill which is designed to get rid of the secret ballot for union elections. Guess what the liberals call it? The “Employee Free Choice Act”! I kid you not.

Libs always use deception because people rarely like the results of liberalism. Either people have to be bribed (with handouts, etc.) or the libs just like – or both.

Alz, that card-check point may be right, even if it is spin on spin, but where’s the tax increase, where’s the loss of freedom? Teas always use the deception tatics!

I didn’t know government “worked” at all. My daddy, Goober-Brained Reject never told me.

timcajun said:
Alz, that card-check point may be right, even if it is spin on spin, but where’s the tax increase, where’s the loss of freedom? Teas always use the deception tatics!

You asked “where’s the loss of freedom?” Grasshopper, right now, the union people can use secret ballots. the liberal bill called “Employee Free Choice Act” TAKES AWAY the secret ballot so liberal union thugs can intimidate people (as they can SEE the votes). I would call this a loss of freedom.

Alz, too much liberty with the “grasshopper” bit, ( teas don’t teach anyone ) that’s a little spin, a few “ifs” and going from A to C without “B”, but you do have a point! However, would this be much different from using the information act to look at e-mails that tea groups might deem “too liberal” (by what hate judgement) and with what final solution, “intimidation”? Would it be “intimidation” for current office holders to steal and copy records of women who may have had abortions? What’s the reason for this, a loss of legal freedoms? What about teas trying to control votes in some district, “because the voters are too young and don’t tend to vote conservative” (loss of freedoms)
Alz, I’m glad you have too much love in your heart to have me wiretapped or waterboarded!

timcajun said:
Alz, too much liberty with the “grasshopper” bit, ( teas don’t teach anyone ) that’s a little spin, a few “ifs” and going from A to C without “B”, but you do have a point! However, would this be much different from using the information act to look at e-mails that tea groups might deem “too liberal” (by what hate judgement) and with what final solution, “intimidation”? Would it be “intimidation” for current office holders to steal and copy records of women who may have had abortions? What’s the reason for this, a loss of legal freedoms? What about teas trying to control votes in some district, “because the voters are too young and don’t tend to vote conservative” (loss of freedoms)
Alz, I’m glad you have too much love in your heart to have me wiretapped or waterboarded!

…which is why the Founders setup our system like they did. LIMITED GOVERNMENT.

I like to call our system “Democratic Capitalism Based On A Moral Foundation.” (Liberals hate each part of that.)

As our system has moved away from our ideals, we end up with problems – just as we see and just as you described.

As more and more liberalism is inserted into our culture, people necessarily can’t trust other people as the things that bind us together have been destroyed by the liberalism.

Alz, I like the way you title our system, however it is void of the morals, not just by liberals! Look at the hate and name calling on this site. ( you are among the least) I have seen the most foul vomit come from a tea, then in the same post, “speak of morals”! The difference between liberal values and tea values are, I see liberals wanting to be socially correct and help and treat persons equal ( without speaking much of morals) I see teas talk about morals and then display other actions! Your post makes sense, but to blame just the liberals???

timcajun said:
Alz, I like the way you title our system, however it is void of the morals, not just by liberals! Look at the hate and name calling on this site. ( you are among the least) I have seen the most foul vomit come from a tea, then in the same post, “speak of morals”! The difference between liberal values and tea values are, I see liberals wanting to be socially correct and help and treat persons equal ( without speaking much of morals) I see teas talk about morals and then display other actions! Your post makes sense, but to blame just the liberals???

I single out liberals because they represent the opposite of what are system is. I know some people on the right are clowns, losers, hypocrites, etc, but the idea of how Conservatism works is correct. I also know that none of us are perfect so some of the losers on the right are not really conservative – so they become noise to me in what i write here.

Conservatism is not void of morals, but the left is. Again, none of us are perfect.

You said ” I see liberals wanting to be socially correct and help and treat persons equal.” NO! Liberals want the END RESULT to be for everyone to be “equal”, but they do not treat people equally. It’s actually just the opposite.

In order to force everything to be “equal”, they have to treat people unequally. The Right is about equal opportunity, but the left is about equal outcomes.

This is where the Socialism comes from. Liberals feel that they are the only ones smart enough to figure out who gets what so as to be able to force everything to be “equal.”

Look how the left profiles people and puts them into groups. It’s how they figure out which group is more of a victim so they can figure out who gets what.

Liberalism can never work.