Oh here we go again. Maybe they could talk about Rupert Murdoch? Then the news day might not be so slow for them.

I think the 4 to 1 ratio is a good metaphor for the kind of balance Fox regularly exhibits.

Good article Jon , some funny lines in there.

What a waste of air time!

Do they even have enough money to go to lunch at Arby’s, let alone build this mosque?

There’s actually a strip club a block or so away from the mosque, but don’t anyone tell Gutfeld.

This article about the 5 reminds me, since the lefties where causing a tizzy yesterday about hardball getting a higher 25-54 demo of 7000. I wonder if there will be an article about how the 5 got a 25-54 demo of 220.000 beating Hardball’s 154.000? (Thats a difference of 66.000 for those who can’t deal with numbers well)
For some reason, I have a feeling Meadiaite won’t.

Wow Jon! You should be a comedian!

…Or really anything else that keeps you far far away from the field of “journalism,” because in that, you suck.

So let me ask, since you have a problem with the 4 on 1… what about Mediaite? Forget about how that’s typical for all the other networks (but backwards, of course). What about YOUR house? Who do you have proving right-of-center opinions? You’ve got a plethora of left and far left… so where is the balance?

Do tell!

illusive man said:
This article about the 5 reminds me, since the lefties where causing a tizzy yesterday about hardball getting a higher 25-54 demo of 7000. I wonder if there will be an article about how the 5 got a 25-54 demo of 220.000 beating Hardball’s 154.000? (Thats a difference of 66.000 for those who can’t deal with numbers well)
For some reason, I have a feeling Meadiaite won’t.

Why would they? I occasionally see the odd Mediaite post about ratings (sort of silly, given the existence of TiVo, DVR’s, etc.) and this was probably done because “The Five” is on it’s first week. Even going the distance and comparing them to Beck’s numbers from last year would be a stretch for that sort of post.

ImNotBlue said:
So let me ask, since you have a problem with the 4 on 1… what about Mediaite? Forget about how that’s typical for all the other networks (but backwards, of course). What about YOUR house? Who do you have proving right-of-center opinions? You’ve got a plethora of left and far left… so where is the balance?

As Jon is currently leasing a publicly owned family, I agree completely… I suggest adding Jim Hoft as Jon’s crazy uncle, Gordon Bloyers as a disabled cousin come to stay, Orly Taitz as his new mother and ImNotBlue as a busybody landlord… Much more balanced and far more interesting than the 5.

@ Greg

What are you talking about, Greg?

Greg said:
Gordon Bloyers as a disabled cousin come to stay

lulz

ImNotBlue said:
@ Greg

What are you talking about, Greg?

Lol… Was pretty sure you would struggle with that.

@ Greg

I did. Try making sense, or at the very least, addressing the question next time.

Unless you can’t, and that bit of nonsense is the best you can come up with.

Don’t get mad, I’m happy to fill in your gaps. You defended FNC imbalance by connecting to an imagined imbalance in Jon’s family life. The first point is that FNC is the public information arm of a media corporation with a lease on bandwidth owned by the public… Jon’s family are a collection of private citizens. My first sentence was ironic, attempting to point out the absurdity of comparing such very different things as if they were equal. The rest was just mastabatory construction of an oddball cast that might satisfy your ridiculous equivalency. Cheers!

I got why Beck had an audience. This show is terrible and will be off the air soon.

@ Greg

You should re-read what I wrote… “his home” as in “get your own home in order before you complain about someone else’s”… as in “Mediaite” which is mentioned before and after that sentense.

So it looks like YOU didn’t understand afterall. Why would Jon’s “family life” have anything to do with anything? You gotta read everything in context. It really helps.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Greg

You should re-read what I wrote… “his home” as in “get your own home in order before you complain about someone else’s”… as in “Mediaite” which is mentioned before and after that sentense.

So it looks like YOU didn’t understand afterall. Why would Jon’s “family life” have anything to do with anything? You gotta read everything in context. It really helps.

I get that w/ explanation… Slightly less ridiculous than I thought.

@ Greg

Only slightly?!?!

It’s like The View.

Only slight less ugly.

But still annoying.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Greg

Only slightly?!?!

Yes… My impression is that unless Mediaite mirrors Big Journalism, Gateway Pundit, The Blaze, Fox Nation etc… There will always be a dedicated group here to gripe about how far left it is… IMHO that perspective is deeply flawed. Additionally, FNC is different in scope and mandate than Mediaite.

ImNotBlue said:
Wow Jon! You should be a comedian!

…Or really anything else that keeps you far far away from the field of “journalism,” because in that, you suck.

So let me ask, since you have a problem with the 4 on 1… what about Mediaite? Forget about how that’s typical for all the other networks (but backwards, of course). What about YOUR house? Who do you have proving right-of-center opinions? You’ve got a plethora of left and far left… so where is the balance?

Do tell!

Ouch!

@ Greg

Mediaite does not bill itself as the same as those other sites, so it’s a bit different.

Additionally, I’m not talking about the folks like you or I… I’m talking about the actual writers. Much like many MSM newspapers, this site has only left or center-left employees. And for folks like that to complain about perceved bias, while failing at the same thing, is awfully hypocritical IMO.

If Mediaite is supposed to be a left-of-center site, just admit it and move on.

I don’t mind that they did a Ground Zero Mosque story simply because it IS in the news given that it’s finally under construction — which was the whole POINT of their discussion. So, for them to have a sort of “look back talk” about the heated emotions over the mosque in the past…and how they (or how people at large) will feel about the mosque…actually is still a viable story to some degree.

But as for the show ITSELF, I would have to say that so far it’s fairly disappointing. And no matter what anyone says, it’s a TOTAL let down in terms of emotion and sheer energy of presentation from what Beck was pulling off. It doesn’t matter if you liked Beck or not — the bottom line was that he was a GREAT “showman” in terms of staging a show and keeping the energy up or keeping people interested.

Speaking as a middle of the road Independent, I would also agree with others that the obvious 4 on 1 ratio does make the show a bit tiresome and groan inducing. Instead of “The Five”, they might as well call it the “Let’s Gang Up On Beckel Hour” since THAT is about all the show amounts to. To be honest, I thought when they first announced the show that Juan Williams was going to be one of the cast. If they at least had him, the balance would seem a little more “fair and balanced.”

Otherwise, if Fox wanted some sort of “Crossfire” show of people with differing opinions, then they still would have been better off pairing Michelle Malkin with Leslie Marshall or something like that. Go ahead and put 2 VERY opposing and distinctive hosts on…and then let them go at it.

Basically, unless this show gets more energy, I can’t see it lasting very long. The success of what Beck achieved…as well as how successful all the other talking head Fox shows are…doesn’t bode well for something like “The Five”, which frankly looks like it was hastily thrown together.

I mean, for crying out loud, even the SET looks cheap and second rate…

@La screenwriter, good points, especially about Juan Williams. He’d add alot more counter balanced points and depth to the discussion. Beckel is a likable person, but he’s permanently in Democrat campaign hack mode and his personality would fit in better with the colorful nutjobs at MessNBC.

Don’t forget that before Beck arrived at Fox, their 5:00 PM time slot wasn’t exactly lighting the world on fire.

ImNotBlue said:
Wow Jon! You should be a comedian!

…Or really anything else that keeps you far far away from the field of “journalism,” because in that, you suck.

So let me ask, since you have a problem with the 4 on 1… what about Mediaite? Forget about how that’s typical for all the other networks (but backwards, of course). What about YOUR house? Who do you have proving right-of-center opinions? You’ve got a plethora of left and far left… so where is the balance?

Do tell!

If you hate everything so much, then why the hell do you keep showing up here?

anyone notice gutfeld taking surprisingly moderate opinions on this show? i always thought he was a steadfast libertarian, but he has said some weird stuff lately. today he said he supports the state intervening when parents let their kids get too fat.

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Raygun said:
If you hate everything so much, then why the hell do you keep showing up here?

Why do the left keep watching FNC?

Slow news day? What, no News Corp scandal reports on FOX?

I’m not surprised that Faux News is running this kind of crap. I just want to know why Mediaite spends so much time shilling for a bigot like Greg Gutfeld.

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ImNotBlue said:
If Mediaite is supposed to be a left-of-center site, just admit it and move on.

As you probably know, I really don’t like to get too deep into politics with my comments to this site, but I am going to point out that there’s a lot of people, myself included, who disagree with your characterization regarding Mediaite.

Also, even if we were to concede your point, Jon is not saying that the 4 to 1 ratio is unbalanced in the product being served the viewer, but that it may not be as much fun for Beckel and by having the others pile on, it comes across as “jerky”. Plus, I imagine there’s a lot of exhausting responsibility in representing everything “liberal”.

It’d be a little hard to pull this off in print and this is just an easy example, but if we took partisan politics out of the equation: it’d be like having a regular blog feature where a stenographer transcribed a discussion about sexism between Colby, Matt, Mark, Jon and Alex. I’m sure Alex can hold her own and it’d be fun for a few days, but at some point it’d probably seem like the guys are ganging up and less respectful of her opinion.

Not to mention, how could she be expected to speak for all women?

To quote Greg Gutfield: “They came off as a bunch of jerks.”

Not another summer of “Ground Zero Mosque!” news. Please!
This story was beaten into the ground.
I myself am sick of it.
Others may differ.

This summer’s story is about the corrupt practices of News Corp.
An improvement!