If someone is throwing rocks at an officer of the law, that is a violent and aggressive action. Force might very well be necessary. However, what is protocol in a situation like that? Whatever means necessary to defend oneself?

Frances, once again, is misleading in this article. The U.S. officials were conducting their investigation the next day. The Mexicans were not pointing their weapons at them in self defense like Frances says. The Mexicans drew down on our guys as they approached the border line in an effort to retieve evidence. We’ll find out what that was, I wont repeat rumors here. It’s disgraceful that Frances thinks that our agents are so trigger-happy that the poor little Mexican army was afraid they would be gunned down next. Such bullshit! Reminds me of John Kerry or Murtha.

And Paul..If you were a cop and were making a lawful arrest, would you let some punk throw bricks at your head? The mexicans have been doing this for years, go on you tube and check it out. They run right up to the agents and assault them with what could be a deadly weapon. Rock or brick to the head at close range can kill you.

Of course I would not just let someone throw a brick at my head (loaded question) and of course it can kill you.

Actually Fraces, the teen was also involved in drug smuggling. And Bill brought up a great point, the Mexican Army was obviously there, so why aren’t they doing something about the violence directed at our border agents? It sounds like this is pretty much a daily occurance.

Don’t blame Frances, me1ranger, her liberalism predisposes her to automatically blame American first.

It doesn’t get more corrupt than the Mexican Army (who we have given lots of $ to). I highly recommend Charles Bowden’s Murder City: Ciudad Juárez and the Global Economy’s New Killing Fields. Great book, though very depressing.

So Paul, you would shoot the rock throwing punk that was out to harm you and/or your partner. Is that correct?

If someone was throwing rocks at my head at close range with the intent of doing me serious bodily harm, yes, I believe shooting in self-defense is justified.

Michelle..it’s harmful when she writes this crap and certain people take her word as gospel. The same people that get their news from Jon Stewart and do research from snopes..

Or who read World Net Daily and Jerome Corsi of course.

Then we agree, theres hope for us yet. You want to be the agents lawyer? Barry would do it, but he had to surrender his law license..sorry, had to point that out.

I do not have a license to practice law so it would be doing the agent a serious disservice to be his lawyer.

Point well taken ranger. I’m hoping those people are too stupid to find a polling place, but history shows us they are not.

After the incident that took Hernandez’s life occurred, Mexican police responded by pointing weapons from their side of the border at US officials,”

How interesting that the Mexican police showed up right after this happened. They obviously were letting this happen.

Come on Michelle. Is it really any different than people who only get news from right-wing sources? Are those people “stupid” too?

Mexican army and police forces are more violent and dangerous than the drug cartels.

Paul,
I don’t think anyone should get their news from any one source. But anyone who is specifically getting it from just jon stewart and thinks it’s news is stupid.

Well sure I agree with that, particularly since it is not a news show.

Paul..spreading the love and making friends. Getting to know you almost enough to tell you what your thinking..

Well you and I know that, Paul, but sadly I think there are some who think it is a news show.

Sad indeed Michelle.

Fire away!!!

I can’t seem to reason how one could justify a 15 year old’s killing; while at the same time it would be deplorable for anyone to justify a law officer’s loss. Here are a few lines from Robert Kennedy’s speech on the mindless menace of violence, which applies not just to the US, but the whole world we live in.

“This is a time of shame and sorrow. It is not a day for politics. I have saved this one opportunity, my only event of today, to speak briefly to you about the mindless menace of violence in America which again stains our land and every one of our lives.
It is not the concern of any one race. The victims of the violence are black and white, rich and poor, young and old, famous and unknown. They are, most important of all, human beings whom other human beings loved and needed. No one – no matter where he lives or what he does – can be certain who will suffer from some senseless act of bloodshed. And yet it goes on and on and on in this country of ours.
Why? What has violence ever accomplished? What has it ever created? No martyr’s cause has ever been stilled by an assassin’s bullet.
No wrongs have ever been righted by riots and civil disorders. A sniper is only a coward, not a hero; and an uncontrolled, uncontrollable mob is only the voice of madness, not the voice of reason.
Whenever any American’s life is taken by another American unnecessarily – whether it is done in the name of the law or in the defiance of the law, by one man or a gang, in cold blood or in passion, in an attack of violence or in response to violence – whenever we tear at the fabric of the life which another man has painfully and clumsily woven for himself and his children, the whole nation is degraded.”

José M Enriquez Mora says:
June 11, 2010 at 6:36 pm
I can’t seem to reason how one could justify a 15 year old’s killing; while at the same time it would be deplorable for anyone to justify a law officer’s loss.

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Sadly, the fact that the young man was Hispanic is all th justification many of these people require. They lead very ugly lives.

All that’s required is you need to have a few lawless punks trying to kill or maime an officer doing his duty. Why is everything all about race with you, King? You’re disgraceful..

Is punk a racist term? I could have called them crackers, right boy?

Once again the King figures all the blame must be on the American side. No facts yet on whether or not the border patrol agent was Hispanic (many are). No questioning why Mexico doesn’t patrol their side of the border more closely to prevent people from throwing rocks. Just automatically assume America is always the bad guy. Why a world traveler who is so obviously miserable living in this country doesn’t relocate is a mystery.

Here’s the deal. If taking a daily rock bath is part of the Border Patrol’s job description, then being bullet bait is part of the job description of anyone throwing those rocks.

Amen..”brothers”

“The No Spin Zone” LOL

And, just how does it matter if the Agent is or is not Hispanic? The point is the posters who so cheaply value the life of a young Hispanic man. That is the cause of the angst and tragedy I describe.

Best regards for you all,

Looking forward to your visiting.

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Come off it, King. Everyone knows your routine by now. An evil (White) American kills a totally innocent Hispanic boy. You don’t give a damn about the kid. You just like bashing ‘Amerika’. My point was that without knowing all the facts, that’s still the approach you always take. Blame the American first, facts can wait. In that regard, you never disappoint.

Throw a rock at me as I perform my job – and I’ll surely drill you.

When someone is shooting at you it doesn’t make any difference what their age is, if you want to not be killed, you shoot back.