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Wisconsin Senate Pass Anti-Union Half Of Controversial Bill Absent Democrats

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Looks like the Democratic senators’ move to leave Wisconsin in order to block a vote on the state’s controversial union bill has backfired. As their presence was needed solely because the bill was fiscal in nature according to the state’s constitution, Republicans took all the fiscal material out of the bill and split it in two. The anti-union provisions that did not affect the state’s budget just passed the Senate with only Republican support.

The Senate (well, the Senate Republicans) spent the day working with Governor Scott Walker to properly split the bill, with the union provisions passing earlier this evening. The mini-bill severely limits bargaining rights for most of the state’s unions. Given that the original bill was publicized as a “budget repair bill” and Gov. Walker’s main reasoning in public for the union measures were related to the state’s finances, Walker and the Senate Republicans will now have to explain the urgency of passing the non-fiscal measures over the fiscal ones.

Needless to say, the Democrats are fuming. Senate Democratic leader Matt Miller released the following statement (via Dave Weigel) announcing that the Democrats will be back in Madison tomorrow:

In thirty minutes, 18 State Senators undid fifty years of civil rights in Wisconsin. Their disrespect for the people of Wisconsin and their rights is an outrage that will never be forgotten. Tonight, 18 Senate Republicans conspired to take government away from the people. Tomorrow we will join the people of Wisconsin in taking back their government.

Below is the initial report of the Senate passing the bill via Fox News:

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  • ndanielson

    Now when the fleebaggers return, they can have Nancy Pelosi read what’s in it to them!

  • Atticus Draco


    Republicans
    WINNING THE FUTURE!

  • turk281

    With the recent news that Walker had been reaching out privately willing to compromise on collective bargaining, I wonder if the Democrats regret pulling this political stunt?

  • Atticus Draco

    turk281 said:
    With the recent news that Walker had been reaching out privately willing to compromise on collective bargaining, I wonder if the Democrats regret pulling this political stunt?

    LMAO
    Dims are ‘TARDS

  • just wow

    D ‘OH !

  • felixw

    The hard decisions have been made, so Democrats can now come back to work.

  • ndanielson

    turk281 said:
    With the recent news that Walker had been reaching out privately willing to compromise on collective bargaining, I wonder if the Democrats regret pulling this political stunt?

    And they gave the American people a good look at “liberal democracy in action”.

  • Atticus Draco

    felixw said:
    The hard decisions have been made, so Democrats can now come back to work.

    lol,, really,, the hard part is over,, you all can come back now

  • Liberty_Hound

    Good for them.. I’m glad the Republicans in Wisconsin stuck to their guns.

  • illusive man

    3 week’s of protests for nothing, Somebody should check on Color Me Bad and see if she’s ok.

  • BadGenome

    “In thirty minutes, 18 State Senators undid fifty years of corruption in Wisconsin.”

    Fixed.

  • Atticus Draco

    Liberty_Hound said:
    Good for them.. I’m glad the Republicans in Wisconsin stuck to their guns.

    it’s a F’in BIG DEAL!
    HA!

  • macombman

    Good this should be a lesson for all real Americans to learn. Cowards who run away never deserve to win,
    A funny video about that also. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDw2pvjrSAA

  • ndanielson

    illusive man said:
    3 week’s of protests for nothing, Somebody should check on Color Me Bad and see if she’s ok.

    Badd is green today.

  • Davo

    What took ‘um so friggin’ long to figure this out? Hopefully, Walker hasn’t won the battle but lost the war. Now, let’s see the other states shove it in gear and get movin.’

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    As I said on a previous post, the bill will pass. Now watch all the lib liars go crazy.

  • Judge Mental

    They should’ve done this two weeks ago. But, better late than never.

  • mcf1757

    I guess this is Great news for soon to be Governor Elect Russ Feingold!! Walker will be recalled in 2012!!

  • Nacho

    illusive man said:
    3 week’s of protests for nothing, Somebody should check on Color Me Bad and see if she’s ok.

    Three weeks of coverage and awareness that it brought was, is, and will continue to be something indeed.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    jdubbleu said:
    call her alison http://www.behance.net/gallery/Alison/49837 (scroll down halfway) shes a gospel singer! http://www.myspace.com/alisonchaseradcliffe

    If that is really her, wow, what a loser.

  • cjd ohio 1

    gordonbloyershow said:
    If that is really her, wow, what a loser.

    gordon, STFU

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    A sad day for the middle class.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Keith Olbermann just drop kicked his kitty across the room . Strong Tweet to follow .

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    gordonbloyershow said:
    If that is really her, wow, what a loser.

    classy

    About the union bill.. whatever, lets see how the Tea Party’s grand experiment goes. I wonder if wages will go down for everyone there now.. and I wonder how that will effect the consumer-driven economy.. time will tell.

  • Religion of Peace

    Take that, cut n runners! ROFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

    Whatcha gonna do now, obama? Send your goons to stuff aspirin down their throats?

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    YES!

    Coupled with the Fall of NPR……it’s been a grand day for the GOOD GUYS!

  • Atticus Draco


    Hey dims,, if it helps,,
    i know it hurts right now,,, BUT,,,
    this aint nuthin’ compared to what you’re gonna feel like in NOV ’12

    You’ll get over this little incident,,
    2012 though,, THAT’S GONNA LEAVE A MARK!

  • Religion of Peace

    ndanielson said:
    Now when the fleebaggers return, they can have Nancy Pelosi read what’s in it to them!

    With utmost respect to my other clear thinking friends that post here, you know who you are, best post of the day!

  • Religion of Peace

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    YES!

    Coupled with the Fall of NPR……it’s been a grand day for the GOOD GUYS!

    It’s a great day in America!

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    And according to King, wait ’till you hear from professional Muslim leaders about what a growing number of “Imams” are spewing against non-Muslims & the US.

    THAT’S why CAIR is trying to suppress these hearings!

    2012!
    Purge the Democratic Threat!

  • Oregon Conservative

    Yay!!!!

    God Bless Scott Walker and God Bless this beautiful country. Right to Work NOW, Right to Work FOREVER.

    It is a GREAT day!

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    btw,
    How does the Progressive Left feel about the killing of gays under Sharia Law?

    You don’t hear from the Democratic hypocrites on that now, do you?

  • timzank

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    A sad day for the middle class.

    On the contrary, we’re elated. Now the well off union workers can’t hold the taxpayers up for ransom anymore.

  • ndanielson

    mcf1757 said:
    I guess this is Great news for soon to be Governor Elect Russ Feingold!! Walker will be recalled in 2012!!

    Russ and his bill got overturned. Good riddance. The people of WI will now have real campaign finance reform, too!

  • Religion of Peace

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    And according to King, wait ’till you hear from professional Muslim leaders about what a growing number of “Imams” are spewing against non-Muslims & the US.

    THAT’S why CAIR is trying to suppress these hearings!

    2012!
    Purge the Democratic Threat!

    Right now the cair cowards are sharpening their knives, but, you know what? I’m ready!

  • Big Eddie

    Now the teachers will not be forced to join a union to have a job . No more thousand a year out of their pay .
    No more of their money going to union thugs .
    Huge win for the people of Wisconsin .
    Get the union goons off the backs of workers in other states and the country will be much better off .

    Liberals and their ridiculous sob stories do not work anymore .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

  • ndanielson

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    YES!

    Coupled with the Fall of NPR……it’s been a grand day for the GOOD GUYS!

    Onward to Planned Parenthood! Oh, and you can than Scott Walker here: govgeneral@wisconsin.gov

  • ndanielson

    Oregon Conservative said:
    Yay!!!!

    God Bless Scott Walker and God Bless this beautiful country. Right to Work NOW, Right to Work FOREVER.

    It is a GREAT day!

    If we could get rid of Wu, we’d have it made!

  • Religion of Peace

    mcf1757 said:
    I guess this is Great news for soon to be Governor Elect Russ Feingold!! Walker will be recalled in 2012!!

    Step away from the crack pipe…socky.

  • Oregon Conservative

    ndanielson said:
    If we could get rid of Wu, we’d have it made!

    Dude, I voted for Cornilles. I liked his bear costume better than Wu’s tiger.

  • Color Me Badd

    Well at least we now have a Rodney King moment, I feel sorry for the future Reginald Denny’s out there.

  • ndanielson

    Oregon Conservative said:
    Dude, I voted for Cornilles. I liked his bear costume better than Wu’s tiger.

    I voted for Rob, too. And Dudley.

  • ndanielson

    Color Me Badd said:
    Well at least we now have a Rodney King moment, I feel sorry for the future Reginald Denny’s out there.

    You could always sing the blues.

  • Religion of Peace

    Color Me Badd said:
    Well at least we now have a Rodney King moment, I feel sorry for the future Reginald Denny’s out there.

    Stupidest comment of the day…go take some more naked pictures of your daughter and post them on the internet you weirdo. Btw, nice trailer.

  • bohratom

    Good to see that republicans have learned from what Harry did with his friends in the senate to finally pass Obamas Healthcare…..Use the rulez baby, the rulez just like the dems did by fleeing the state.

  • Oregon Conservative

    ndanielson said:
    I voted for Rob, too. And Dudley.

    The Dudley loss was tough. I went to his rally on the 30th (to meet Chris Christie with other Right to Work advocates) and really thought Oregon would wake up to the foolishness of Governor Retread. No such luck. Oh well, at least Oregon is beautiful (scenically speaking.)

  • Raygun

    Well, this is their “Obamacare”. Come the next elections it will come back to bite Republicans in the ass that they are passing legislation that only their base approves of and everyone else hates.

  • timzank

    Color Me Badd said:
    Well at least we now have a Rodney King moment, I feel sorry for the future Reginald Denny’s out there.

    It’s unfortunate but yes, the union thugs will probably beat the sh*t out of lots of innocent people, but it’s in their contract, they have to.

  • Ajolily

    Great day today.

  • bohratom

    What a great night and Im gonna DVR Rachel at 9pm so I can watch here bitch and moan about for the hour….woot, love it

  • CosmosDan

    turk281 said:
    With the recent news that Walker had been reaching out privately willing to compromise on collective bargaining, I wonder if the Democrats regret pulling this political stunt?

    Isn’t Walker just as guilty of pulling a stunt by claiming it’s all about the budget and then separating the bill into fiscal and non fiscal so they could do this?
    As noted in the article , what does that do to his persistent argument that it was all about the budget? I noticed Fox whisked right by that detail.

  • kvon

    “Then they came for the trade unionists”

    The literal words of the quote.

    If I was Jewish, I would avoid Wisconsin for a little while.

  • Religion of Peace

    kvon said:
    “Then they came for the trade unionists”

    The literal words of the quote.

    If I was Jewish, I would avoid Wisconsin for a little while.

    Fear monger much?

  • kvon

    Religion of Peace said:
    Fear monger much?

    Just quoting something very famous.

  • cjd ohio 1

    kvon said:
    Just quoting something very famous.

    lol

  • Judge Mental

    CosmosDan said:
    Isn’t Walker just as guilty of pulling a stunt by claiming it’s all about the budget and then separating the bill into fiscal and non fiscal so they could do this?
    As noted in the article , what does that do to his persistent argument that it was all about the budget? I noticed Fox whisked right by that detail.

    They took the spending part out so they could pass it without a quorum. But that doesn’t mean it won’t be beneficial to the state’s budget.

  • kvon

    Religion of Peace said:
    Fear monger much?

    Not my fault your buddy’s targets are similar to history’s greatest monster.

    Your buddy in this sentence are the Koch Brothers.

  • Lefter than Ewe

    Right to work works out real well, there having a fire sale on houses in Florida right now because most of them are empty..welcome to your future if this sticks. What a bunch of morons, shilling for the 1% that has all our money and thinking if you’re real good and suck up, they’ll give you a peek at it..Fat chance. You guys are the suckers. This was the budget repair bill, tell us how this is going to repair the budget fools. This was always about breaking the unions. The guy who said it was right, fifty years of work down the drain, but I’m sure the corps will make sure and check to see if your a repugnant before they cut your salaries and you will no one to blame but yourselves. Go ahead, keep whooping it up and slapping yourselves on your backs. Good job, good sheep..baaaaaaa

  • Davo

    Raygun said:
    Well, this is their “Obamacare”. Come the next elections it will come back to bite Republicans in the ass that they are passing legislation that only their base approves of and everyone else hates.

    Nah. The vast majority of Americans like our freedom. This is freedom to NOT have your tax money funneled to Democrat campaigns. It’s also freedom to NOT have your money negotiated away by politicians without your input.

    This is a GREAT day for America, and will be even greater if the other states will line up to reclaim their liberty.

  • cjd ohio 1

    kvon said:
    Not my fault your buddy’s targets are similar to history’s greatest monster. Your buddy in this sentence are the Koch Brothers.

    lol

  • Atticus Draco

    bohratom said:
    What a great night and Im gonna DVR Rachel at 9pm so I can watch here bitch and moan about for the hour….woot, love it

    LMAO!
    you know what,, i considered doing that too
    ‘COZ YOU KNOW SHE IS GONNA BE BTCHIN”!!!
    “them dirty rascal republicans!!!!”
    LMAO!

  • Religion of Peace

    kvon said:
    Not my fault your buddy’s targets are similar to history’s greatest monster.

    Your buddy in this sentence are the Koch Brothers.

    One stupid response was enough. The Koch brothers are Patriots.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    I’m glad this happened. Now anytime that somebody criticizes the passing of the healthcare bill this can be shoved in their faces. I thought that this was all about fiscal policy, why then has the fiscal elements been split? Because Walker LIED.

  • Davo

    Lefter than Ewe said:
    You guys are the suckers. This was the budget repair bill, tell us how this is going to repair the budget fools. This was always about breaking the unions. The guy who said it was right, fifty years of work down the drain……………….

    Yep. and it couldn’t have happened to a more deserving political party. Maybe now the NEA members will help FEEL THE PAIN they’ve imposed on the citizens of Wisconsin for so long. Justice is sweet.

    Wisconsin citizens, YOU Deserve A Break Today……………….!

  • timzank

    kvon said:
    “Then they came for the trade unionists” The literal words of the quote. If I was Jewish, I would avoid Wisconsin for a little while.

    Good idea, those union dudes don’t like the joooos.

  • Religion of Peace

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    I’m glad this happened. Now anytime that somebody criticizes the passing of the healthcare bill this can be shoved in their faces. I thought that this was all about fiscal policy, why then has the fiscal elements been split? Because Walker LIED.

    The republicans fled the scene when obamacare was being voted on? Really, unreasonable?

  • kvon

    Davo said:
    Yep. and it couldn’t have happened to a more deserving political party. Maybe now the NEA members will help FEEL THE PAIN they’ve imposed on the citizens of Wisconsin for so long. Justice is sweet.

    Wisconsin citizens, YOU Deserve A Break Today……………….!

    When are you going to stop caring about winning, and more about fixing America’s problems?

  • tgk

    CosmosDan said:
    Isn’t Walker just as guilty of pulling a stunt by claiming it’s all about the budget and then separating the bill into fiscal and non fiscal so they could do this?

    Seems to me this is a double win for Walker:

    1) The Dems are coming back tomorrow now

    2) The Dems had already agreed to everything except this one piece that passed today without them. So now the other half should pass easily

  • timzank

    kvon said:
    Not my fault your buddy’s targets are similar to history’s greatest monster. Your buddy in this sentence are the Koch Brothers.

    Yeah, $40,000 in donations versus millions by the unions.

  • Religion of Peace

    Ann Coulter is on FIRE tonight! Yeooooweeee!

  • BadGenome

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    I’m glad this happened. Now anytime that somebody criticizes the passing of the healthcare bill this can be shoved in their faces. I thought that this was all about fiscal policy, why then has the fiscal elements been split? Because Walker LIED.

    Just out of curiosity, what was your opinion on the parliamentary maneuvers used to pass Obamacare? And how do you feel about the way this union bill was passed?

  • kvon

    Religion of Peace said:
    The republicans fled the scene when obamacare was being voted on? Really, unreasonable?

    Some of your ignorance is obvious.

    Some of it comes from your Mom/Aunt and your Dad/Uncle’s unfortunate DNA.

  • kvon

    timzank said:
    Yeah, $40,000 in donations versus millions by the unions.

    Are you kidding? You’re not this stupid…you can’t be this stupid…seriously, this is just willful stupidity…what the fuck is wrong with you?

  • CosmosDan

    Judge Mental said:
    They took the spending part out so they could pass it without a quorum. But that doesn’t mean it won’t be beneficial to the state’s budget.

    I guess it does mean that it wasn’t crucial to the budget, or related to the immediate budget as was originally presented.

  • cjd ohio 1

    kvon said:
    Some of your ignorance is obvious. Some of it comes from your Mom/Aunt and your Dad/Uncle’s unfortunate DNA.

    lol

  • Religion of Peace

    kvon said:
    When are you going to stop caring about winning, and more about fixing America’s problems?

    obama was the one who said he was going to fix everything over 2 yrs ago…

  • BadGenome

    timzank said:
    Yeah, $40,000 in donations versus millions by the unions.

    Oh, come on. That’s not a fair comparison at all. We all know Democrats can spend trillions of dollars to absolutely no effect. What are they gonna do with a few measly millions?

  • tgk

    kvon said:
    When are you going to stop caring about winning, and more about fixing America’s problems?

    That’s exactly what they are doing (albeit, you may not agree with their solutions)- fixing America’s problems and in doing so, BOOM, Winning! Winning FOR America

  • Davo

    kvon said:
    When are you going to stop caring about winning, and more about fixing America’s problems?

    Hijacking Conservatives’ sentences ain’t gonna do you any good. This can easily be the break in the dam Liberals constructed to choke America. Let the freedom flow. And let the freedom RING!

  • CosmosDan

    tgk said:
    Seems to me this is a double win for Walker:

    1) The Dems are coming back tomorrow now

    2) The Dems had already agreed to everything except this one piece that passed today without them. So now the other half should pass easily

    A short term win perhaps.

  • Religion of Peace

    kvon said:
    Some of your ignorance is obvious.

    Some of it comes from your Mom/Aunt and your Dad/Uncle’s unfortunate DNA.

    *yawn*

  • kvon

    Religion of Peace said:
    obama was the one who said he was going to fix everything over 2 yrs ago…

    No, that’s what Glenn Beck said Obama said.

  • teccec

    rofl. I guess the Dems will have to come back to their state and represent their constituents the way they were elected to. Boo Hoo…

  • tgk

    CosmosDan said:
    I guess it does mean that it wasn’t crucial to the budget, or related to the immediate budget as was originally presented.

    Of course it is. It would make NO sense to pass the parts relating to increasing the union members’ contributions to their insurance and pension and not do something to keep them from collectively bargain to get it ALL back in 6 months.

  • kvon

    Religion of Peace said:
    *yawn*

    Yes, yawn. Acting stupid doesn’t convince anyone. You know that Walker is doing a much worse version of what Obama did with the Health Care Law.

    You’re just being an inbred retard about it.

  • ndanielson

    Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out –
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out –
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out –
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.

    kvon said:
    “Then they came for the trade unionists”

    The literal words of the quote.

    If I was Jewish, I would avoid Wisconsin for a little while.

    They first came for the toilets, and I didn’t speak up because I want to save the planet.

    Then they came for the cigarettes, and I didn’t speak up because I don’t smoke.

    Then they came for the light bulbs, and I didn’t speak up because I’m okay with fluorescents.

    Then they came for the salt, and I didn’t speak up because I have high cholesterol.

    Then they came for my trans fats, and I didn’t speak up because I can lose the weight.

    Then they came for more taxes, but that’s okay “it’s for the kids”.

    Then they came for the air conditioners, and I didn’t speak up because I live up north.

    Then they came for the Happy Meals, and I didn’t speak up because I’m a Wendy’s guy.

    Then they came for the Oreos at school parties, and I didn’t speak up because I’d already graduated.

    Then they came with smart meters, but I didn’t speak up because we all need to sacrifice.

    Then they came for the rich…

  • kvon

    Davo said:
    Hijacking Conservatives’ sentences ain’t gonna do you any good. This can easily be the break in the dam Liberals constructed to choke America. Let the freedom flow. And let the freedom RING!

    The the recall begin!

  • Raygun

    Davo said:
    Nah. The vast majority of Americans like our freedom. This is freedom to NOT have your tax money funneled to Democrat campaigns. It’s also freedom to NOT have your money negotiated away by politicians without your input.

    This is a GREAT day for America, and will be even greater if the other states will line up to reclaim their liberty.

    Read a poll. The vast majority of Americans want to keep the freedom to collectively bargain.

  • avoidswork

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    I’m glad this happened. Now anytime that somebody criticizes the passing of the healthcare bill this can be shoved in their faces. I thought that this was all about fiscal policy, why then has the fiscal elements been split? Because Walker LIED.

    They don’t care that Walker lied. They don’t care that fire/police/etc. didn’t support this, either. Or the eople of Wisconsin. They don’t care about education. They really don’t care because talk radio and FNC has indoctrinated them into UnionsBad. They support people who lie to them all the time. They listen or watch “news” littered in lies all the time.

    For them, it’s a lot easier to think unions are the cause of their state’s problem than any budget mismanagement. It’s certainly a lot easier for them to demonize educators, then a private business man.

    They just don’t care and they really never will.

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out –
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out –
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out –
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.

    They first came for the toilets, and I didn’t speak up because I want to save the planet.

    Then they came for the cigarettes, and I didn’t speak up because I don’t smoke.

    Then they came for the light bulbs, and I didn’t speak up because I’m okay with fluorescents.

    Then they came for the salt, and I didn’t speak up because I have high cholesterol.

    Then they came for my trans fats, and I didn’t speak up because I can lose the weight.

    Then they came for more taxes, but that’s okay “it’s for the kids”.

    Then they came for the air conditioners, and I didn’t speak up because I live up north.

    Then they came for the Happy Meals, and I didn’t speak up because I’m a Wendy’s guy.

    Then they came for the Oreos at school parties, and I didn’t speak up because I’d already graduated.

    Then they came with smart meters, but I didn’t speak up because we all need to sacrifice.

    Then they came for the rich…

    Yes, because that is the same thing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Religion of Peace said:
    One stupid response was enough. The Koch brothers are Patriots.

    What just happened in Madison has been seen before. If there is a Reichstag fire, look out. Those patriotic Koch Bros. have bought one state. Ohio, Indiana, and Mihigan are on the block. The entire Mid-West is about to become the private property of two libertarian whackos from California.
    When fools like Davo and Draco realize that they’ve been shilling for totalitarian rule, it’ll be too late. They’ll be the last true believers; the real useful idiots.
    To think that the Billionaire Boys Club cares about democracy is somewhat dumber than buying a Rolex watch from the guy on the corner with the wide-brimmed hat.

  • Pablo
  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out –
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out –
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out –
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.

    They first came for the toilets, and I didn’t speak up because I want to save the planet.

    Then they came for the cigarettes, and I didn’t speak up because I don’t smoke.

    Then they came for the light bulbs, and I didn’t speak up because I’m okay with fluorescents.

    Then they came for the salt, and I didn’t speak up because I have high cholesterol.

    Then they came for my trans fats, and I didn’t speak up because I can lose the weight.

    Then they came for more taxes, but that’s okay “it’s for the kids”.

    Then they came for the air conditioners, and I didn’t speak up because I live up north.

    Then they came for the Happy Meals, and I didn’t speak up because I’m a Wendy’s guy.

    Then they came for the Oreos at school parties, and I didn’t speak up because I’d already graduated.

    Then they came with smart meters, but I didn’t speak up because we all need to sacrifice.

    Then they came for the rich…

    The quote is about trade unionists. Sorry that Hitler and David Koch target unionists dude, sucks for you. Seems like you might be on the wrong side of history.

  • Religion of Peace

    kvon said:
    No, that’s what Glenn Beck said Obama said.

    LOL! When you’re backed in a corner just scream “Beck!”

  • ndanielson

    kvon said:
    Yes, because that is the same thing.

    Led by liberals who want to run everybody’s lives. Socialism leads to tyranny. Dummy.

  • kvon
  • Religion of Peace

    Who knew you could “buy a state” for $40k? If that’s the case, I’ll take one.

  • Pablo

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Those patriotic Koch Bros. have bought one state.

    Joseph, you’re a kook. Please detail your complaint with the Koch brothers, and provide some of the dollar figures that support it. And let me know when you get to the $20 million they donated to the ACLU.

    Can anyone explain what the Koch brothers great interest in public worker unions is supposed to be and why they’d buy a state to get it on? Or do y’all just like saying Koch?

  • kvon

    Religion of Peace said:
    LOL! When you’re backed in a corner just scream “Beck!”

    When did Obama say he would solve all of the world’s problems?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNIQG7WXpSM

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    Led by liberals who want to run everybody’s lives. Socialism leads to tyranny. Dummy.

    Sorry that Koch and Hitler had the same targets. It really seems to bug you…sorry dude.

  • Oregon Conservative

    Oh Beautiful for spacious skies…..

    Damn, I feel extra patriotic today. For those of you who don’t live in a hippie state like mine, some of our ‘super hippies’ sport bumper stickers on their cars that read, “Thank You Jerry” paying homage to the departed leader of the Greatful Dead. I’m thinking of stealing that idea to one that says, “Thank You Scott”

    Thank You Scott

    …..for amber waves of grain.

  • Religion of Peace

    Chalk this one up as another obama failure because he was behind the d’s cut an running like little cry babies.

  • kvon

    Oregon Conservative said:
    Oh Beautiful for spacious skies…..

    Damn, I feel extra patriotic today. For those of you who don’t live in a hippie state like mine, some of our ’super hippies’ sport bumper stickers on their cars that read, “Thank You Jerry” paying homage to the departed leader of the Greatful Dead. I’m thinking of stealing that idea to one that says, “Thank You Scott”

    Thank You Scott

    …..for amber waves of grain.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/03/drive_to_recall_wisconsin_gop.html

    …me too.

  • ndanielson

    kvon said:
    The quote is about trade unionists. Sorry that Hitler and David Koch target unionists dude, sucks for you. Seems like you might be on the wrong side of history.

    Just as you target the “rich”, the fascists targeted the Jews, and those “mean evil bankers”. And Michael Moore demanding more money and power for government??? Are you for real, dummy? Class warfare is the fuel of tyrants.

  • Religion of Peace

    kvon said:
    When did Obama say he would solve all of the world’s problems?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNIQG7WXpSM

    When didn’t he say that?

  • Pablo

    avoidswork said:
    They don’t care that Walker lied. They don’t care that fire/police/etc. didn’t support this, either. Or the eople of Wisconsin. They don’t care about education. They really don’t care because talk radio and FNC has indoctrinated them into UnionsBad. They support people who lie to them all the time. They listen or watch “news” littered in lies all the time.

    For them, it’s a lot easier to think unions are the cause of their state’s problem than any budget mismanagement. It’s certainly a lot easier for them to demonize educators, then a private business man.

    They just don’t care and they really never will.

    They’ve been discussing this possibility since the fleebaggers hit the road. If it isn’t perfectly legal, WI courts will overturn it. Which ain’t gonna happen.

    The Democrats forced this. They’ve crippled the Senate for 3 weeks. And when they do come back, they’re going to lose some more. Sucks to be them.

    Elections have consequences.

  • Glenn.Bovine.Merrill

    Religion of Peace said:
    When didn’t he say that?

    Shut up Jeffy.

  • tgk

    “18 Senate Republicans conspired to take government away from the people. ”

    That’s freaking amazing. What do the 14 democrats think THEY were doing fleeing the state?

  • CosmosDan

    tgk said:
    Of course it is. It would make NO sense to pass the parts relating to increasing the union members’ contributions to their insurance and pension and not do something to keep them from collectively bargain to get it ALL back in 6 months.

    You’re assuming that’s what would happen. The negotiations could have easily included that the contributions be permanent, or something similar.

  • Davo

    Joseph Glackin said:
    When fools like Davo and Draco realize that they’ve been shilling for totalitarian rule, it’ll be too late. They’ll be the last true believers; the real useful idiots.

    I know you Liberals are ticked right now, and it makes you even more mentally deranged than usual. But Conservatives support individual freedom……………you Liberal anti-Americans are the ones pushing for totalitarian control over business, medical care, private property, and a never ending list of human endeavors including removing the right of the people to hold government employees accountable.

    “Holding government employees accountable.” I know you Liberals find that repulsive, but I really like the sound of that!

  • avoidswork

    Oregon Conservative said:
    Oh Beautiful for spacious skies….. Damn, I feel extra patriotic today. For those of you who don’t live in a hippie state like mine, some of our ’super hippies’ sport bumper stickers on their cars that read, “Thank You Jerry” paying homage to the departed leader of the Greatful Dead. I’m thinking of stealing that idea to one that says, “Thank You Scott” Thank You Scott …..for amber waves of grain.

    for making a decision not in your hippie state? that has nothing to do with your hippie state? you think that is actually going to happen in your pacific northwest hippie state?

    gah, i am probably referring to someone from the eastern part of the state, no less…

  • Atticus Draco

    Oregon Conservative said:
    Oh Beautiful for spacious skies…..

    Damn, I feel extra patriotic today.

    lol,, i do too man!!!

  • ndanielson

    Religion of Peace said:
    When didn’t he say that?

    “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” – Barack Hussein 0bama.
    Most megalomaniacal in presidential-speech history!

  • avoidswork

    Pablo said:
    They’ve been discussing this possibility since the fleebaggers hit the road. If it isn’t perfectly legal, WI courts will overturn it. Which ain’t gonna happen. The Democrats forced this. They’ve crippled the Senate for 3 weeks. And when they do come back, they’re going to lose some more. Sucks to be them. Elections have consequences.

    You are forgetting the people of WI aren’t supportive of Walker nor the measure to remove collective bargaining. If this was Walker’s end goal, why didn’t he just do it ASAP instead of bloviating, threatening to send lay-off notices, trying to get cops to not let people in the capital, etc?

    It is what it is. I never said it wasn’t legal, I said Walker was completely lying to the people of WI. And I also said that people like you don’t frakking care. This may induce recall of some GOP state senators and possibly the Governor. He got what he wanted, but whether WI voters will be happy is a whole other matter.

  • Atticus Draco

    ndanielson said:
    “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” – Barack Hussein 0bama.
    Most megalomaniacal in presidential-speech history!

    that’s funny,, i forgot he said that

  • Religion of Peace

    ndanielson said:
    “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” – Barack Hussein 0bama.
    Most megalomaniacal in presidential-speech history!

    I’m wondering why “kvon” would vote for someone who supposedly NEVER said he would fix anything. I’m thinking he was one of those that voted for him because he is “black” and no other reason.

  • Pablo

    kvon said:
    Sorry that Koch and Hitler had the same targets. It really seems to bug you…sorry dude.

    Oh, like Hitler and Muslims!

    But what’s all this about the Koch’s attacking unions? Evidence? Preferably something that isn’t plagiarized from Protocols of the Elders of Zion, if you don’t mind.

  • avoidswork

    ndanielson said:
    “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” – Barack Hussein 0bama.Most megalomaniacal in presidential-speech history!

    God I hope so if only to keep you frakking batmobileshit crazy.

    Or until the supposed Rapture comes and takes all the assholes away from the mortal plane of the planet.

  • Religion of Peace

    According to reuters Independents have a 37% approval rating of obama. Put a fork in him.

  • Davo

    kvon said:
    The the recall begin!

    Relax, kvon, you’re stuttering. It’ll be OK. Freedom really isn’t anything to be afraid of.

  • ndanielson

    kvon said:
    The quote is about trade unionists. Sorry that Hitler and David Koch target unionists dude, sucks for you. Seems like you might be on the wrong side of history.

    Hey, I know, kvon, let’s tax the taxpayer until he can’t pay anymore, and then let’s go after corporations and the rich for more, so that we can all work for government! Didn’t we declare our independence from government in 1776???

  • avoidswork

    Religion of Peace said:
    I’m wondering why “kvon” would vote for someone who supposedly NEVER said he would fix anything. I’m thinking he was one of those that voted for him because he is “black” and no other reason.

    Well, I voted against the old dude and the retarded harpie, so maybe did vote for him just because he was (half) black…

  • OxyCon

    I fleebagged my ass to Illinois for three weeks and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Well seems like you dipwad republicans think you’ve won in Wisconsin….I DON’T THINK SO………Walker, Koch & Wingnutts are just pulling another dirty trick……they know good and damn well what they did today wont pass the smell test. Walker doesn’t care if the protesters come back, they don’t matter, What Walker is trying to do is coax those 14 Dems back into the state so they can be tricked into the capitol bldg so they can get their forum, Thats what this charade is all about….The corporate media jumped all over it, every other question has been “Are You Dems Gonna Come Back Now???”….well here’s the answer…….HELL NO !!!!…..gotta give it to you repukes though, no dirty tricks are off the table and you know em all, The fight is just getting started…the dems in Illinois will stay put for a long time….recalls are on the way,

  • tgk

    CosmosDan said:
    You’re assuming that’s what would happen.

    Absolutely, I am assuming that and I would be willing to bet on it. Given the resistance shown by these union members, I would even be willing to bet it wouldn’t BE six months

    CosmosDan said:
    The negotiations could have easily included that the contributions be permanent, or something similar.

    Something similar? No need, because that’s exactly what this is – a permanent solution.

  • Religion of Peace

    avoidswork said:
    God I hope so if only to keep you frakking batmobileshit crazy.

    Or until the supposed Rapture comes and takes all the assholes away from the mortal plane of the planet.

    So, you’re a racist.

  • ndanielson

    avoidswork said:
    God I hope so if only to keep you frakking batmobileshit crazy.

    Or until the supposed Rapture comes and takes all the assholes away from the mortal plane of the planet.

    Still too bad that intelligence takes work, huh? Dummy. Looks like you put no effort in at all.

  • CosmosDan

    kvon said:
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/03/drive_to_recall_wisconsin_gop.html

    …me too.

    That’s pretty interesting. It seems some of the GOP didn’t necessarily agree with Walker on bargaining rights.

    ” GOP senator Dale Schultz has already called for a compromise, so that makes two. The key here is that Cowles, a Republican, is conceding that Walker has already been offered the fiscal concessions he asked for, and that the bargaining rights piece would have little or no fiscal impact.”

  • Yoda002

    Republicans/Tea Party why stop there put the pedal to the metal. Get rid of the min. pay, get rid of social security, get rid of medicare, get rid of child labor laws, EPA, OHSA, overtime.

    Democrats cheer when they give something to the people. Republicans cheer when they take things away from the people.

    Middle Class it was nice knowing you. Welcome to U.S.A of Mexico.

  • ndanielson

    Atticus Draco said:
    that’s funny,, i forgot he said that

    Behind faux greek pillars, no less. And do you remember candidate, 0bama, with his fake presidential seal??? God I hate the term, but LOL. LOL, LOL! Hubris knows no equal.

  • Pablo

    avoidswork said:
    You are forgetting the people of WI aren’t supportive of Walker nor the measure to remove collective bargaining. If this was Walker’s end goal, why didn’t he just do it ASAP instead of bloviating, threatening to send lay-off notices, trying to get cops to not let people in the capital, etc?

    The people of America weren’t supportive of Obama, and I didn’t hear any complaint out of you. And Walker didn’t bribe anybody to get this bill passed. And he’s not going to be passing out waivers from the law to his union supporters. 2014 is a long time from now. Walker will do just fine.

    As for why he didn’t do this from the get go, that’s probably because he figured the fleebaggers wouldn’t be so shameless about stealing their paychecks and hamstringing the institution that pays them.

  • Davo

    avoidswork said:
    You are forgetting the people of WI aren’t supportive of Walker nor the measure to remove collective bargaining.

    ‘Sfunny. Walker was recently elected after promising to do what he’s been doing. Democrat polls are just desperate whining by a losing agenda of government employee elitism.

    Look. Democrats have never been concerned about their DIMS or their union members. They are scared sh*tless that this is the end of the money-laundering scheme that funnels tax money into union employees who are forced to donate to the Democrit Party. Nothing more.

  • WCinWI

    I voted for Walker!

    Woot woot!

  • Pablo

    The Secretary of State told us Obama was going to make everything perfect.

  • avoidswork

    OxyCon said:

    well, well. someone has a new avatar. a jesus-y, false idol, no less. and yet much improved from the last one. kudos.

  • WCinWI

    Snowspot said:
    classy

    About the union bill.. whatever, lets see how the Tea Party’s grand experiment goes. I wonder if wages will go down for everyone there now.. and I wonder how that will effect the consumer-driven economy.. time will tell.

    Salary negotiations were never off the table.

    Next. :)

  • Grammie

    CosmosDan said:
    Isn’t Walker just as guilty of pulling a stunt by claiming it’s all about the budget and then separating the bill into fiscal and non fiscal so they could do this?
    As noted in the article , what does that do to his persistent argument that it was all about the budget? I noticed Fox whisked right by that detail.

    .
    Exactly, after three weeks and every effort to get them to return failing, do you propose that a budget was going to be passed?

    The Dems were in complete of everything as long as any of it was tied to the budget.

    They announced they will return tomorrow so that problem is solved.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    The Koch-Brother-Troll Socialist-Free Purity Pledge

    I, ________________________________, do solemnly swear to uphold the principles of a
    socialism-free society and heretofore pledge my word that I shall strictly adhere to the following:
    I will complain about the destruction of 1st Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly
    being allowed to exercise my 1st Amendment Rights.
    I will complain about the destruction of my 2nd Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly
    being allowed to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights by legally but brazenly brandishing
    unconcealed firearms in public.
    I will foreswear the time-honored principles of fairness, decency, and respect by screaming
    unintelligible platitudes regarding tyranny, Nazi-ism, and socialism at public town halls. Also.
    I pledge to eliminate all government intervention in my life. I will abstain from the use of and
    participation in any socialist goods and services including but not limited to the following:
    Social Security
    Medicare/Medicaid
    State Children’s Health Insurance Programs (SCHIP)
    Police, Fire, and Emergency Services
    US Postal Service
    Roads and Highways
    Air Travel (regulated by the socialist FAA)
    The US Railway System
    Public Subways and Metro Systems
    Public Bus and Lightrail Systems
    Rest Areas on Highways
    Sidewalks
    All Government-Funded Local/State Projects (e.g., see Iowa 2009 federal senate
    appropriations–http://grassle…
    Public Water and Sewer Services (goodbye socialist toilet, shower, dishwasher, kitchen sink,
    outdoor hose!)
    Public and State Universities and Colleges
    Public Primary and Secondary Schools
    Sesame Street
    Publicly Funded Anti-Drug Use Education for Children
    Public Museums
    Libraries
    Public Parks and Beaches
    State and National Parks
    Public Zoos
    Unemployment Insurance
    Municipal Garbage and Recycling Services
    Treatment at Any Hospital or Clinic That Ever Received Funding From Local, State or
    Federal Government (pretty much all of them)
    Medical Services and Medications That Were Created or Derived From Any Government
    Grant or Research Funding (again, pretty much all of them)
    Socialist Byproducts of Government Investment Such as Duct Tape and Velcro (Nazi-NASA
    Inventions)
    Use of the Internets, email, and networked computers, as the DoD’s ARPANET was the
    basis for subsequent computer networking
    Foodstuffs, Meats, Produce and Crops That Were Grown With, Fed With, Raised With or
    That Contain Inputs From Crops Grown With Government Subsidies
    Clothing Made from Crops (e.g. cotton) That Were Grown With or That Contain Inputs
    From Government Subsidies
    If a veteran of the government-run socialist US military, I will forego my VA benefits and
    insist on paying for my own medical care
    I will not tour socialist government buildings like the Capitol in Washington, D.C.
    I pledge to never take myself, my family, or my children on a tour of the following types of socialist
    locations, including but not limited to:
    Smithsonian Museums such as the Air and Space Museum or Museum of American History
    The socialist Washington, Lincoln, and Jefferson Monuments
    The government-operated Statue of Liberty
    The Grand Canyon
    The socialist World War II and Vietnam Veterans Memorials
    The government-run socialist-propaganda location known as Arlington National Cemetery
    All other public-funded socialist sites, whether it be in my state or in Washington, DC
    I will urge my Member of Congress and Senators to forego their government salary and
    government-provided healthcare.
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    States of America.
    I will boycott the products of socialist defense contractors such as GE, Lockheed-Martin, Boeing,
    Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, Raytheon, Humana, FedEx, General Motors, Honeywell,
    and hundreds of others that are paid by our socialist government to produce goods for our socialist
    army.
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    Homeland Security, TSA, Department of Justice and their socialist employees.
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    Upon reaching age 65, I will forego Medicare and pay for my own private health insurance until I
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  • ndanielson

    It’s like 1776 all over again.

  • Religion of Peace

    Watching the d’s spin in desperation is cause for celebration.

    Cheers to my clear thinking friends!

    *takes sip of Johnny Walker*

  • Atticus Draco

    ndanielson said:
    Behind faux greek pillars, no less. And do you remember candidate, 0bama, with his fake presidential seal??? God I hate the term, but LOL. LOL, LOL! Hubris knows no equal.

    lol,, yeah,, i forgot the pillars too,,,
    you’re bringing the nightmare back to life,, lol
    “The audacity of that Keynesian!!!”

  • Religion of Peace

    WCinWI said:
    I voted for Walker!

    Woot woot!

    Cheers, my friend! ;)

  • Pablo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    Well seems like you dipwad republicans think you’ve won in Wisconsin….I DON’T THINK SO………Walker, Koch & Wingnutts are just pulling another dirty trick……they know good and damn well what they did today wont pass the smell test.

    No, it won’t be passing any smell tests. But it will be crossing Governor Walker’s desk, where it will become law. Have a nice day.

    KOCH!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Davo, I’m a true believer in individual freedom. I believe in the right to freely associate with their fellow workers, be they privately or publicly employed. I believe in their right to peaceably assemble and to petition the govt. for the redress of grievances.
    I do not believe that Corporations are people. It is not in the Constitution, no matter how hard the SCOTUS 5 try to contort the document. I do not believe that having more money gives you more rights. I do not believe in the Divine Right of Kings, or Corporations, or Billionaires. I don’t want two Whackos from California owning a state, whatever their politics are.
    I feel sorry for the knee-jerk neocons who have bought the “less is more” mantra. That trickle-down you are hoping for isn’t rain–it’s the rich guys p#ss#ng on you.

  • avoidswork

    ndanielson said:
    Still too bad that intelligence takes work, huh? Dummy. Looks like you put no effort in at all.

    batmobileshit crazy. vile, soulless, batmobileshit crazy. and kind of frakking boring…

  • ProObamaAgenda

    WTF …Michael Moore is on Maddow brandishing handcuffs calling for a revolution….awwwww shit……its on and poppin now….white folks about to get rowdy up in in this mofo….this REVOLUTION WILL BE TELEVISED

  • Davo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    The Koch-Brother-Troll Socialist-Free Purity Pledge

    Just relax, Lib. You’re gonna get the next 8 years to complain about Conservatives inflicting a terrible reign of freedom upon Liberals against your wills. Save it………………..No need to waste your whining too soon.

  • ndanielson

    Atticus Draco said:
    lol,, yeah,, i forgot the pillars too,,,
    you’re bringing the nightmare back to life,, lol
    “The audacity of that Keynesian!!!”

    Yeah, he wants to be just like his Kenyan father in politics.

  • Pablo

    Walker has really solved everything here. The fleebaggers are coming home, the dispute about the bill is over and everybody can get back to work. That, my friends, is leadership.

    KOCH!

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Pablo said:
    No, it won’t be passing any smell tests. But it will be crossing Governor Walker’s desk, where it will become law. Have a nice day.

    KOCH!

    we’ll see……wingnut

  • Pablo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    WTF …Michael Moore is on Maddow brandishing handcuffs calling for a revolution….awwwww shit……its on and poppin now….white folks about to get rowdy up in in this mofo….this REVOLUTION WILL BE TELEVISED

    Comedy Central? Animal Planet?

  • avoidswork

    Religion of Peace said:
    So, you’re a racist.

    slightly confused about how “crazy” or “assholes” have a race associated with it…

    oh, wait.
    white people?
    are you calling white people crazy assholes?

  • Pablo

    Joseph Glackin said:
    I do not believe that Corporations are people.

    Do you believe that unions are people?

  • Pablo

    KOCH!

  • WCinWI

    CosmosDan said:
    Isn’t Walker just as guilty of pulling a stunt by claiming it’s all about the budget and then separating the bill into fiscal and non fiscal so they could do this?
    As noted in the article , what does that do to his persistent argument that it was all about the budget? I noticed Fox whisked right by that detail.

    “Before the election, the Democrats promised “adult leadership” in Madison. Then a month and a half into session, the Senate Democrats fled the state instead of doing their job.

    In doing so, they have tarnished the very institution of the Wisconsin state Senate. This is unacceptable.

    This afternoon, following a week and a half of line-by-line negotiation, Sen. Miller sent me a letter that offered three options: 1) keep collective bargaining as is with no changes, 2) take our counter-offer, which would keep collective bargaining as is with no changes, 3) or stop talking altogether.

    With that letter, I realized that we’re dealing with someone who is stalling indefinitely, and doesn’t have a plan or an intention to return. His idea of compromise is “give me everything I want,” and the only negotiating he’s doing is through the media.

    Enough is enough.

    The people of Wisconsin elected us to do a job. They elected us to stand up to the broken status quo, stop the constant expansion of government, balance the budget, create jobs and improve the economy. The longer the Democrats keep up this childish stunt, the longer the majority can’t act on our agenda.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wisconsin-senate-majority-leader-scott-fitzgerald-wisconsin-budget-vote_553937.html

  • Religion of Peace

    avoidswork said:
    slightly confused about how “crazy” or “assholes” have a race associated with it…

    oh, wait.
    white people?
    are you calling white people crazy assholes?

    Stop interjecting, sock.

  • OxyCon

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    Well seems like you dipwad republicans think you’ve won in Wisconsin….I DON’T THINK SO………Walker, Koch & Wingnutts are just pulling another dirty trick……they know good and damn well what they did today wont pass the smell test. Walker doesn’t care if the protesters come back, they don’t matter, What Walker is trying to do is coax those 14 Dems back into the state so they can be tricked into the capitol bldg so they can get their forum, Thats what this charade is all about….The corporate media jumped all over it, every other question has been “Are You Dems Gonna Come Back Now???”….well here’s the answer…….HELL NO !!!!…..gotta give it to you repukes though, no dirty tricks are off the table and you know em all, The fight is just getting started…the dems in Illinois will stay put for a long time….recalls are on the way,

    Take a deep breathe because you’re about to get hit really hard with a heavy dose of reality:

    Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D-Monona) said they would be back by Thursday. They had been able to block a vote on the bill for three weeks because 20 senators had to be present to vote for it. Republicans control the house 19-14…

    Democrats decried the move and warned it could end the political careers of some Republican senators who are under the threat of recall.

    “I think it’s akin to political hara-kiri,” said Sen. Bob Jauch (D-Poplar). “I think it’s political suicide.”…

    State Sen. Chris Larson (D-Milwaukee) said Wednesday night he attempted to drive back from Illinois to Madison to get to the Capitol before Republicans passed the measure.

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117656563.html

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Davo said:
    Just relax, Lib. You’re gonna get the next 8 years to complain about Conservatives inflicting a terrible reign of freedom upon Liberals against your wills. Save it………………..No need to waste your whining too soon.

    just sign the pledge wingnut, its there for you ,if you can get off ya knees long enough

  • CosmosDan

    tgk said:
    Absolutely, I am assuming that and I would be willing to bet on it. Given the resistance shown by these union members, I would even be willing to bet it wouldn’t BE six months

    That would be a losing bet. If you’d been paying attention you’d know that collective bargaining doesn’t work that way. One of Walker’s complaints was that collective bargaining takes much longer, and contracts are for certain terms. They don’t just start bargaining anytime they feel like it.

    You’re making assumptions without knowing relevant facts

  • ndanielson

    Religion of Peace said:
    Watching the d’s spin in desperation is cause for celebration.

    Cheers to my clear thinking friends!

    *takes sip of Johnny Walker*

    Black or Blue?

  • Grammie

    Religion of Peace said:
    kvon said:
    When did Obama say he would solve all of the world’s problems?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNIQG7WXpSM

    When didn’t he say that?

    .
    Perhaps this illustrates it quite well:

    “It is a subject upon which he can dilate effortlessly. In his victory speech upon winning the nomination, Obama declared it a great turning point in history — “generations from now we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment” — when, among other wonders, “the rise of the oceans began to slow.” As economist Irwin Stelzer noted in his London Daily Telegraph column, “Moses made the waters recede, but he had help.” Obama apparently works alone. ”

    http://townhall.com/columnists/charleskrauthammer/2008/07/18/who_does_he_think_he_is

    I highly recommend the entire article by Charles krauthammer that this little snippet is taken from.

  • ndanielson

    avoidswork said:
    slightly confused about how “crazy” or “assholes” have a race associated with it…

    oh, wait.
    white people?
    are you calling white people crazy assholes?

    Just the ones that avoid work to sponge off of the taxpayers.

  • tgk

    Joseph Glackin said:
    I do not believe in the Divine Right of Kings, or Corporations, or Billionaires

    What does that even mean to you?

    You know, for all this talk from the lefties about the EEEEVIL Corporations, I hope all the unemployed people on the left realize that without the mean old employers they would not have a dime of unemployment benefits to help them get by (in the case of someone who really DOES want to work) or sit around and be a slacker (in the case of someone who has no interesting in working till they are forced to again).

  • OxyCon

    Pablo said:
    KOCH!

    Do you say that like Captain Kirk yelling KHAAAAAAAAANNNNN

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Michael Moore seems pretty upset…..hes head bustin mad…..you baggers better not send ya grandmas and grandpas and your kids out there as the counter protesters waving silly ass signs……you may wanna get up off ya fat lazy conservative asses and get out there yourselves this time

  • Davo

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Davo, I’m a true believer in individual freedom. I believe in the right to freely associate with their fellow workers, be they privately or publicly employed. I believe in their right to peaceably assemble and to petition the govt. for the redress of grievances.

    You CANNOT believe in individual freedom and be a modern Liberal. Those are mutually exclusive, non-homogeneous elements. The only individual freedoms Liberals tolerate is the freedom to be as immorally disgusting as you can possibly imagine to be……………….NO OTHER FREEDOMS TOLERATED. So save the flowery, teary-eyed poetry for other ignorant Liberals who gave up thinking years ago in favor of non-minded repetition of what your thinkers tell you to say.

    Workers always have the right to negotiate with those who pay them. But these government workers demand to insulate themselves from those payers (taxpayers) who cannot speak for themselves, but are victimized by politicians and union thugs. NOTHING about that reflects individual freedom. Like I said, maybe some mindless Lib might be impressed, but rational people won a great victory today nonetheless.

  • WCinWI

    CosmosDan said:
    That would be a losing bet. If you’d been paying attention you’d know that collective bargaining doesn’t work that way. One of Walker’s complaints was that collective bargaining takes much longer, and contracts are for certain terms. They don’t just start bargaining anytime they feel like it.

    You’re making assumptions without knowing relevant facts

    Fiscal doesn’t mean fiscal in WI political legalese. I’m still waiting to get my grasp around it. Either way, unions have proven their stance on talks with their recent negotiations of pay increases and non-contribution to health and pension benefits. There were several union contracts (a Milw. college, a union in Janesville, etc) where these items weren’t mentioned. That is how you know the unions are a joke.

    Now we can get onto education reform.

    It must suck that a Democratic Mayor from DC (Fenty) and Michelle Rhee agree with Walker.

  • illusive man

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    if you can get off ya knees long enough

    That coming from an Obamadrone?…….Really?

  • Liberty_Hound

    I like the line “Needless to say, the Democrats are fuming. ”

    That’s what the Republicans were doing (fuming) when the Democrats left. So how does it feel Dems?

    Some say this all about breaking the union and not about the budget.. I can argue that’s not true but it doesn’t matter. I can live with breaking the union. Good job Wisconsin!.

    For you fuming lefties.

    FDR was against, in principle, the concept of government employee unions and their right to collective bargaining. He said “the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.” Then he added that “I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place” in the public sector. “A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/24/a-correction-to-yesterdays-piece/#ixzz1GA4d4Rvq

    A private sector union bargains for what they believe is their fair share of a company’s profit. A public sector union bargains for what they think is their fair share of tax dollars. Who is bargaining on behalf of the tax payer?
    Certainly not the Democrats who enjoy 90% of Union dues campaign contributions. When only a little over 53% of union members actually vote Democratic.

    So you see it is all about the money… Other people’s money.

  • Hawk11

    The hysterical thing is that all of you here standing up and applauding Walker for this day, well, enjoy it.

    All that’s been done is a sleeping giant has been awoken and the independents will now sway left. The republicans have shown the entire country in just 3 short months what they are really about. 310 million people in this country and most of them are middle class. All of whom know someone who is a public teacher who is teaching their kids. All of whom trust their police and fire departments to keep them safe. Hundreds of thousands of civil service and government employees that Speaker Boehner has said “so be it” to them losing their jobs.

    You’re going to see what the recall of government officials looks like. Will the full force of the ballot box. It will no longer be about god, guns and abortion. It’s going to be about who wants to keep the middle class in their jobs and homes.

    Thank you Scott Walker. You’ve finally woken up the democratic party.

  • Religion of Peace

    ndanielson said:
    Black or Blue?

    Black. ;)

  • OxyCon

    avoidswork said:
    well, well. someone has a new avatar. a jesus-y, false idol, no less. and yet much improved from the last one. kudos.

    No way any can be offended by that, right? Well…..I’m sure someone could find a way if that’s what they wanted to do. lol

  • ndanielson

    Hawk11 said:
    Thank you Scott Walker. You’ve finally woken up the democratic party.

    Thank you, fleebaggers, you have finally showed what liberal politics is all about on a national level.

  • tgk

    CosmosDan said:
    If you’d been paying attention you’d know that collective bargaining doesn’t work that way.

    You’re right I guess, I am not in a union and I don’t collectively bargain with my private sector employer. Therefore, I don’t think I need to know every detail pertaining to unions. Still a good bet the first time it would be possible (how ever long it is) those items would right at the top of the bargaining list right behind pay. Now, they won’t.

    When Mitch Daniels did this exact thing in IN in 2005 it (along with many other things) had a very positive affect on our state budget. We went from a state significantly in the red to a state with a large enough surplus to make us one of a few states that have weathered this economy pretty well so far.

  • CosmosDan

    Grammie said:
    .
    Exactly, after three weeks and every effort to get them to return failing, do you propose that a budget was going to be passed?

    The Dems were in complete of everything as long as any of it was tied to the budget.

    They announced they will return tomorrow so that problem is solved.

    Walker was reportedly negotiating with them over the last few days which was what they wanted all along. I have to wonder if even attempt at negotiating was sincere or just a stalling tactic because they were planning this move.
    Regardless, we’ll see how it plays out. I think the minority party ought to have a way to force discussion and public hearing, but indefinite gridlock shouldn’t be an acceptable option at either the state or national level.

  • OxyCon

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    Michael Moore seems pretty upset…..hes head bustin mad…..

    I hope he doesn’t bust an artery and all his lard corpuscles go flying all over the place.

  • Religion of Peace

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    Michael Moore seems pretty upset…..hes head bustin mad…..you baggers better not send ya grandmas and grandpas and your kids out there as the counter protesters waving silly ass signs……you may wanna get up off ya fat lazy conservative asses and get out there yourselves this time

    Nobody’s afraid of that lard ass, patty cakes.

  • BFD

    It was inevitable this bill would pass as they had the vote from the beginning.
    It is a priceless victory for the Left that it was ultimately done in such a sleazy matter.

    The GOP has damaged itself for years to come in Wisconsin. :)

  • Grammie

    OxyCon said:
    Do you say that like Captain Kirk yelling KHAAAAAAAAANNNNN

    .
    I kind of hear it in a “KOCH you” way along with some mumblings about horses that you rode in on.

    OK, that’s my quota of profanity for the year. :)

  • ndanielson

    OxyCon said:
    I hope he doesn’t bust an artery and all his lard corpuscles go flying all over the place.

    See? And that’s damn nice. If he was a republican, not only would the liberals be wishing him dead, but in horrific ways, and his family, too.

  • Davo

    It’s very entertaining watching MSNBC. The DemoCrit Senators from Wisconsin are whining about the “non-democratic” acts of the Republicans, the unfair and unethical behavior of their opponents……………………..whining from their hiding places in Illinois.

  • cjd ohio 1

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    Michael Moore seems pretty upset…..hes head bustin mad…..you baggers better not send ya grandmas and grandpas and your kids out there as the counter protesters waving silly ass signs……you may wanna get up off ya fat lazy conservative asses and get out there yourselves this time

    yeah he told high school students to walk out of school at 2:00 friday, really moore using kids as shields now

  • avoidswork

    hey, i’m impressed. it’s your call to keep/change and you thought it over and decided to make a change. i’m sure awesome-o/eric cartman could be offensive to some, too.

  • Nacho

    This is really the best thing that could have happened.

    Walker back himself in a corner and this was a pretty slimy way they dealt with it.

    It will have consequences. The only people that are jumping for joy are the right wing fringe wack jobs. The real American citizens will not like the way this has gone down.

    Should be fun to watch… :)

  • WCinWI

    CosmosDan said:
    Walker was reportedly negotiating with them over the last few days which was what they wanted all along. I have to wonder if even attempt at negotiating was sincere or just a stalling tactic because they were planning this move.
    Regardless, we’ll see how it plays out. I think the minority party ought to have a way to force discussion and public hearing, but indefinite gridlock shouldn’t be an acceptable option at either the state or national level.

    They had public hearings.

    Next.

  • ndanielson

    BFD said:
    The GOP has damaged itself for years to come in Wisconsin. :)

    Feingold damaged WI for years. Now he’s lost both his campaign funding frauds for the rest of his cronies for years to come.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    OxyCon said:
    Take a deep breathe because you’re about to get hit really hard with a heavy dose of reality:

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117656563.html

    nope…wrong again wingnut……nobody will be returning tomorrow….the dems are talking about it as i type….they just said they will be back but it wont be tomorrow….you republicans got problems looming and you aint gonna like the outcome

  • OxyCon
  • Grammie

    Hawk11 said:
    All that’s been done is a sleeping giant has been awoken and the independents will now sway left.

    .
    Are you and BFD related? What is with this evoking Yamamoto and FDR?

    I’ll take my chances b/c it is what I think is the best hope for our country.

    Did you see the poll results on wrong direction for the country? If I had been asked I would have checked not only are we going in the wrong direction but we’ve got the afterburners firing away.

    This is, IMO, one small step in starting the shut down on those afterburners.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Listen to all the Union Princesses biatching about their Golden Packages!

    They’re right that the GOP should go sfter the Wall Street scum, but they’re thug unions are not much better.

    They’re complaining now about the GOP ramming through the law in Wi. – not a word from these hypocrites when Obama did it with that disaster of ObamaCare!

    Bust the Public Unions – and you deal a death blow to the Democratic Party!

  • Pablo

    THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!

    Apparently, it looks like lunatic criminal scumbags thugs.

  • illusive man

    Nacho said:
    This is really the best thing that could have happened. Walker back himself in a corner and this was a pretty slimy way they dealt with it. It will have consequences. The only people that are jumping for joy are the right wing fringe wack jobs. The real American citizens will not like the way this has gone down. Should be fun to watch… :)

    Sorry but union puppet’s do not count as American citizens…….or people for that matter.

  • tgk

    You know, I am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you to see that Frances left out the republican statement from the article:

    “Enough is enough.“ ”The people of Wisconsin elected us to do a job. They elected us to stand up to the broken status quo, stop the constant expansion of government, balance the budget, create jobs and improve the economy. The longer the Democrats keep up this childish stunt, the longer the majority can’t act on our agenda. [...]

    “We have confirmed with the Legislative Fiscal Bureau, the Legislative Council and the Legislative Reference Bureau that every item in tonight’s bill follows the letter of the law.

    “The people of Wisconsin elected us to come to Madison and do a job. Just because the Senate Democrats won’t do theirs, doesn‘t mean we won’t do ours.”

  • OxyCon

    ndanielson said:
    Feingold damaged WI for years. Now he’s lost both his campaign funding frauds for the rest of his cronies for years to come.

    Feinwho?

  • Pablo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    nope…wrong again wingnut……nobody will be returning tomorrow….the dems are talking about it as i type….they just said they will be back but it wont be tomorrow….you republicans got problems looming and you aint gonna like the outcome

    They want to get a day in on the water slides, right?

  • Religion of Peace

    BFD said:
    It was inevitable this bill would pass as they had the vote from the beginning.
    It is a priceless victory for the Left that it was ultimately done in such a sleazy matter.

    The GOP has damaged itself for years to come in Wisconsin. :)

    Sleazy? I agree, the democrats running away from their constituents was sleazy. Thanks, b f dummie!

  • illusive man

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    nope…wrong again wingnut……nobody will be returning tomorrow….the dems are talking about it as i type….they just said they will be back but it wont be tomorrow….you republicans got problems looming and you aint gonna like the outcome

    Oh that is adorable, You think Dem’s are tough.

  • http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/27661.html IIWII

    Davo said:
    It’s very entertaining watching MSNBC. The DemoCrit Senators from Wisconsin are whining about the “non-democratic” acts of the Republicans, the unfair and unethical behavior of their opponents……………………..whining from their hiding places in Illinois.

    Yee-ha, brother!

  • Pablo

    Nacho said:
    Walker back himself in a corner and this was a pretty slimy way they dealt with it.

    tgk said:
    “We have confirmed with the Legislative Fiscal Bureau, the Legislative Council and the Legislative Reference Bureau that every item in tonight’s bill follows the letter of the law.

    I love this place.

  • Georgia999

    Davo said:
    What took ‘um so friggin’ long to figure this out? Hopefully, Walker hasn’t won the battle but lost the war. Now, let’s see the other states shove it in gear and get movin.’

    Davo—You are so right !!

  • Yoda002

    Pablo said:
    THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!

    Apparently, it looks like lunatic criminal scumbags thugs.

    This what it looks like when KOCH Industries and other multinational corporations put in one of their poodles to take rights from the worker.

  • Pablo

    Religion of Peace said:
    Sleazy? I agree, the democrats running away from their constituents was sleazy. Thanks, b f dummie!

    Who’s been stealing their paycheck for the last 3 weeks? Democrats.

  • ndanielson

    OxyCon said:
    Feinwho?

    He’s posting under the name avoidswork, I believe.

  • Pablo

    Yoda002 said:
    This what it looks like when KOCH Industries and other multinational corporations put in one of their poodles to take rights from the worker.

    Do you want to detail the Koch’s interest in the public union issue, their donations related to it and the point of your Koch hissy fit? No one seems to want to explain their Koch hate.

    KOCH!!!

  • ChrisNH

    Those limp-wristed Libs got their asses kicked, and the happy irony is that they essentially kicked themselves. They could have prevented this by not fleeing like a bunch of pantywaists, but they decided they really wanted to be pantywaists and, well, now they’re sad.

    Now, all we need is for the Limp-wrists in Ohio to ‘flee’ too.

  • Georgia999

    BFD said:
    It was inevitable this bill would pass as they had the vote from the beginning.It is a priceless victory for the Left that it was ultimately done in such a sleazy matter. The GOP has damaged itself for years to come in Wisconsin. :)

    You make big joke, right? LOL Very funny. We shall see, won’t we?

  • ProObamaAgenda

    im wondering what would happen if the Wisconsin Based major sports teams decided to support the unions,,,No Bucks Basketball no Brewers Baseball and No Cheesehead Football until this mess is straightened out….now that would have an impact

  • Religion of Peace

    This was ALL orchestrated by obama. Chalk another loss up to him. ;)

  • ChrisNH

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    A sad day for the middle class.

    Libs don’t care a BIT about the ‘middle class.’ They care only about UNION hacks, which they describe using the comfortable and cozy terms, ‘middle class’ or ‘working people.’

    The truth about Libs is this: Whatever else you are, you’d better be a UNION HACK first and foremost. Otherwise, you’re not cared about.

  • Religion of Peace

    BFDummie said:
    It was inevitable this bill would pass as they had the vote from the beginning.
    ————-

    Must be why they cut and ran, right? It was going to pass anyways…So, what you’re saying it was an exercise in futility by the d’s, right?

    Thanks, bf dummie!

  • ndanielson

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    im wondering what would happen if the Wisconsin Based major sports teams decided to support the unions,,,No Bucks Basketball no Brewers Baseball and No Cheesehead Football until this mess is straightened out….now that would have an impact

    No taxpayers held hostage for the democrat slush fund. No problem.

  • ndanielson

    Webster dictionary got a new word, too. Fleebagger.

  • Pablo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    im wondering what would happen if the Wisconsin Based major sports teams decided to support the unions,,,No Bucks Basketball no Brewers Baseball and No Cheesehead Football until this mess is straightened out….now that would have an impact

    AAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

    Did you get your unicorn yet, ProObamaAgenda? Do you still have to pay your mortgage and put gas in your tank?

  • Pablo

    SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

    KOCH!

    Schadenfreude sure is tasty.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Pablo said:
    AAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

    Did you get your unicorn yet, ProObamaAgenda? Do you still have to pay your mortgage and put gas in your tank?

    Dont have a mortgage or a car so i dont need a unicorn…….you can send me food though

  • Religion of Peace

    Pablo said:
    AAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

    Did you get your unicorn yet, ProObamaAgenda? Do you still have to pay your mortgage and put gas in your tank?

    He’s on ssi for his mental illness. He trolls 24/7. No mortgage and no car.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Nice to see that the adults didn’t cave to the foot stomping children. Bravo for sanity in government, and hopefully other states will take note.

  • tgk

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    .you can send me food though

    Typical – YOU take care of me.

  • Religion of Peace

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    Dont have a mortgage or a car so i dont need a unicorn…….you can send me food though

    See, I was right.

  • Nacho

    Religion of Peace said:
    Must be why they cut and ran, right? It was going to pass anyways…So, what you’re saying it was an exercise in futility by the d’s, right?

    Futility? Have you not been paying any attention the last 3 weeks?

    The whole country is watching whats going on. That would not have happened if they just stuck around, sat back, and watched the bill breeze through..

    And… its not even close to over now.

  • http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/27661.html IIWII

    Georgia999 said:
    Davo—You are so right !!

    Recent news from Idaho. Idaho legislature is working on the public union problems AND stopping the practice of tenure. They are going to give a small pay raise to new teachers and have them work 1-2 year contracts only.

  • ndanielson

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    Dont have a mortgage or a car so i dont need a unicorn…….you can send me food though

    0bama’s workin’ overtime to get soup kitchens in every city.

  • avoidswork

    ndanielson said:
    He’s posting under the name avoidswork, I believe.

    I’ve got those things you’re afraid of – girlie parts.

    Should Awesome-o Scott tenerman your sad ass?

  • BFD

    Religion of Peace said:
    So, what you’re saying it was an exercise in futility by the d’s, right?

    I am saying it was an exercise in making time to win in the court of public opinion.
    Which they obviously did, even according to that lying scumbag Scott Rasmussen.

  • ndanielson

    2012 comes early.

    IIWII said:
    Recent news from Idaho. Idaho legislature is working on the public union problems AND stopping the practice of tenure. They are going to give a small pay raise to new teachers and have them work 1-2 year contracts only.

  • Pablo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    Dont have a mortgage or a car so i dont need a unicorn…….you can send me food though

    Here’s a thought. GET A JOB. And show up for it.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Religion of Peace said:
    See, I was right.

    lolololololololol

  • Alz

    VERY GOOD NEWS.

  • Pablo

    Nacho said:
    Futility? Have you not been paying any attention the last 3 weeks?

    The whole country is watching whats going on. That would not have happened if they just stuck around, sat back, and watched the bill breeze through..

    And… its not even close to over now.

    Actually, it is. But we’ll meet again.

  • ndanielson

    Nacho said:
    Futility? Have you not been paying any attention the last 3 weeks?

    The whole country is watching whats going on. That would not have happened if they just stuck around, sat back, and watched the bill breeze through..

    And… its not even close to over now.

    Nope, Idaho and Ohio are next.

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  • ProObamaAgenda

    Pablo said:
    Here’s a thought. GET A JOB. And show up for it.

    actually you take care of me……i like it like that……the more you work the more i eat…..i can even buy steaks and orange sherbert with my food stamp card……..isnt life grand??? livin on the dole….in fact my dogs are getting fat and happy off you……only the best for my pooches…….thanks

  • Rescuedog

    ~~SWEET!!!~~

    You reaped the whirlwind, Wisconsin Democrats. Enjoy the ride!

  • Yoda002

    Pablo said:
    Do you want to detail the Koch’s interest in the public union issue, their donations related to it and the point of your Koch hissy fit? No one seems to want to explain their Koch hate.

    KOCH!!!

    Koch Industries is a major player in Wisconsin: Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits.

    They also want the states power plants and to get those no-bid contracts at below market prices.

  • Pablo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    actually you take care of me……i like it like that……the more you work the more i eat…..i can even buy steaks and orange sherbert with my food stamp card……..isnt life grand??? livin on the dole….in fact my dogs are getting fat and happy off you……only the best for my pooches…….thanks

    Ah, so you’re a moocher. A member of the recipient class. A thief, basically. Remind me to not give a shit what you think and to not dwell to much on the fact that your pathetic ass doesn’t even have enough proper upbringing to say “Thank you”.

    What’s it like being a parasite?

  • Pablo

    Yoda002 said:
    Koch Industries is a major player in Wisconsin: Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits.

    Numbers, please. How many do they employ? How many were laid off? What would happen if they just took their stupid corporation and left?

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    You libs are so out of touch. 88% of the workforce doesn’t belong to a union. Do you think they really care about a public employees union? Why would they care when the results from the union teachers are failing like this?

    82 percent of US schools may be labeled ‘failing’
    (AP) – 8 hours ago

    The number of schools labeled as “failing” under the nation’s No Child Left Behind Act could skyrocket dramatically this year, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Wednesday.

    The Department of Education estimates the percentage of schools not meeting yearly targets for their students’ proficiency in in math and reading could jump from 37 to 82 percent as states raise standards in attempts to satisfy the law’s mandates.

    The 2002 law requires states to set targets aimed at having all students proficient in math and reading by 2014, a standard now viewed as wildly unrealistic.

    “No Child Left Behind is broken and we need to fix it now,” Duncan said in a statement. “This law has created a thousand ways for schools to fail and very few ways to help them succeed.”

    Duncan presented the figures at a House education and work force committee hearing, in urging lawmakers to rewrite the Bush-era act. Both Republicans and Democrats agree the law needs to be reformed, though they disagree on issues revolving around the federal role of education and how to turn around failing schools.

    A surge in schools not meeting annual growth targets could have various implications. The most severe consequences — interventions that could include closure or replacing staff — would be reserved for those schools where students have been failing to improve for several consecutive years.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    ProObamaAgenda

    Pablo said:
    What’s it like being a parasite?

    Hey Pablo, he is just a shill for Obama and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Mike Tobin had better find a safehouse.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Yoda002 said:
    Koch Industries is a major player in Wisconsin: Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits.

    They also want the states power plants and to get those no-bid contracts at below market prices.

    You forgot the large contributions to PBS and their many charitable contributions. Go figure.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    you republicans got problems looming and you aint gonna like the outcome

    LOL, the problem is you scum that are paid shills for Obama and the unions. The end is near.

    88% of America’s workers don’t belong to a union. When teachers unions abuse the system and turn out results like the ones below, they deserve to be dumped.

    82 percent of US schools may be labeled ‘failing’
    (AP) – 8 hours ago

    The number of schools labeled as “failing” under the nation’s No Child Left Behind Act could skyrocket dramatically this year, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Wednesday.

    The Department of Education estimates the percentage of schools not meeting yearly targets for their students’ proficiency in in math and reading could jump from 37 to 82 percent as states raise standards in attempts to satisfy the law’s mandates.

    The 2002 law requires states to set targets aimed at having all students proficient in math and reading by 2014, a standard now viewed as wildly unrealistic.

    “No Child Left Behind is broken and we need to fix it now,” Duncan said in a statement. “This law has created a thousand ways for schools to fail and very few ways to help them succeed.”

    Duncan presented the figures at a House education and work force committee hearing, in urging lawmakers to rewrite the Bush-era act. Both Republicans and Democrats agree the law needs to be reformed, though they disagree on issues revolving around the federal role of education and how to turn around failing schools.

    A surge in schools not meeting annual growth targets could have various implications. The most severe consequences — interventions that could include closure or replacing staff — would be reserved for those schools where students have been failing to improve for several consecutive years.

  • ChrisNH

    Looks like Obamo is now facing the pitchforks instead of holding them. He wasn’t ‘clinging’ onto them tight enough, I guess.

  • Religion of Peace

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    actually you take care of me……i like it like that……the more you work the more i eat…..i can even buy steaks and orange sherbert with my food stamp card……..isnt life grand??? livin on the dole….in fact my dogs are getting fat and happy off you……only the best for my pooches…….thanks

    What a POS.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Hawk11 said:
    Thank you Scott Walker. You’ve finally woken up the democratic party.

    You really need to quit taking those drugs. Leave that to your hero, Charlie Sheen.

  • Religion of Peace

    What kind of a loser brags about being a lazy pos?

    Answer: the progressive kind.

    What do you want to bet this loser accuses others of being on welfare hundreds of times a day?

  • Tedderman

    It’s remarkable just how many morons post on this site and believe America is better today because the rights of the middle class are being destroyed. The billionaire Koch brothers, Wall Street and their wallets thank you for your stupidity.

  • Religion of Peace

    Tedderman said:
    It’s remarkable just how many morons post on this site and believe America is better today because the rights of the middle class are being destroyed. The billionaire Koch brothers, Wall Street and their wallets thank you for your stupidity.

    Squak!

  • ChrisNH

    Cue yet another Paul Krugman screeching, rabid tirade in 3…2…1…

  • BadGenome

    Tedderman said:
    It’s remarkable just how many morons post on this site and believe America is better today because the rights of the middle class are being destroyed. The billionaire Koch brothers, Wall Street and their wallets thank you for your stupidity.

    It’s remarkable how much further removed from reality the left is than it used to be. FDR did some really over the line, super dumb shit, but even he could see why public unions shouldn’t be allowed.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    I DON’T THINK

    You got that right.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Religion of Peace said:
    ProObamaAgenda said:
    actually you take care of me……i like it like that……the more you work the more i eat…..i can even buy steaks and orange sherbert with my food stamp card……..isnt life grand??? livin on the dole….in fact my dogs are getting fat and happy off you……only the best for my pooches…….thanks

    What a POS.

    He was only trying to piss off real Americans.

  • BFD

    Religion of Peace said:
    What kind of a loser brags about being a lazy pos?

    What kind of an idiot doesn’t know when he’s being trolled?

    First day on the internet?

    Check out Amazon, they sell stuff there.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Tedderman said:
    It’s remarkable just how many morons post on this site and believe America is better today because the rights of the middle class are being destroyed. The billionaire Koch brothers, Wall Street and their wallets thank you for your stupidity.

    Do you know anything about this country? 88% of the workers don’t belong to unions. The 12% that do, half are public employees. Your team is not too big. The public employee unions are screwing you and you don’t even know it.

  • Jayson

    Welcome to communist America. The land of the free indeed..

  • BFD

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Your team is not too big.

    And yet most people in Wisconsin support them keeping their rights.

    I guess YOUR team is not too big! lolol

  • Sprocket

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Do you know anything about this country? 88% of the workers don’t belong to unions. The 12% that do, half are public employees. Your team is not too big. The public employee unions are screwing you and you don’t even know it.

    I wonder if the 88% of the workers realize that union contracts drag their wage levels up too.

    Oh BTW Gordon, Alex Jones says hello. And something about “idiot”.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Snowspot said:
    classy – About the union bill.. whatever, lets see how the Tea Party’s grand experiment goes. I wonder if wages will go down for everyone there now.. and I wonder how that will effect the consumer-driven economy.. time will tell.

    WetSpot, you need to find some place where people care what you post.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    BFD said:
    And yet most people in Wisconsin support them keeping their rights. I guess YOUR team is not too big! lolol

    Keep believing those phony polls. LOL Did Charlie Sheen entice you back on the drugs?

  • Religion of Peace

    BFD said:
    What kind of an idiot doesn’t know when he’s being trolled?

    First day on the internet?

    Check out Amazon, they sell stuff there.

    Thanks for admitting your a troll/sock puppet, loser. Hook, line and sinker. ;)

  • Religion of Peace

    you’re

  • BFD

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Keep believing those phony polls.

    Yeah, you’re right. Rasmussen is phony.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    BadGenome said:
    It’s remarkable how much further removed from reality the left is than it used to be. FDR did some really over the line, super dumb shit, but even he could see why public unions shouldn’t be allowed.

    As Big Labor money loses it’s influence, the Dems are going to have to contemplate inhabiting a plane of reality again for the first time in decades or face being doomed to political obscurity. That might not bring the hard core of the progressive movement back from the brink of madness, but it should portend a more sane political discourse in the main.

  • Pablo

    BFD said:
    Yeah, you’re right. Rasmussen is phony.

    And Obama is The One We’ve Been Waiting For.

  • Pablo

    BFD said:
    And yet most people in Wisconsin support them keeping their rights.

    I guess YOUR team is not too big! lolol

    #winning

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    BFD said:
    Yeah, you’re right. Rasmussen is phony.

    Who are you trying to kid. You never believe Rasussen. You were talking about those polls that are weighted with far more democrats and union members than there really are. Now go back to feeding the pigions.

  • Arkansas Steve

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Keith Olbermann just drop kicked his kitty across the room . Strong Tweet to follow .

    17 Thumbs UP, 0 Thumbs DOWN.
    Wow, if there is one thing we can ALL agree with, it is what a huge putz Olbermann is!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Inboca/1829370356 Dave Inboca

    As a native Wisconsinite, I understand Walker’s reticence to get out in front and turn the entire scene into a media circus. The people of Wisconsin still support the scaling back of union bargaining rights, despite what some polls are misinterpreted as have said.

    I also grind my teeth like Coulter at this reticence, but I have to admit that Coulter’s brand of arm-waving shouting just doesn’t come across in the Badger State—-not at all. Although she went to Law School in Ann Arbor, Ann doesn’t really understand the almost Canadian reserve of Wisconsinites over towards Minnesota. Minnesota is full of downright stupid people [I lived there for foure years] compared to Wisconsin. And Michigan where I went to grad school is a great place, but it ain’t WI.

    Let the WI people work this out in-state. It was the Demonrats who fled and now have to eat dirt while screaming from the rooftops for out-of-state help. Because they won’t get a majority of Wisconsinites to support the ridiculous coddling of school teachers while the ordinary working stiff is practically starving. No matter what silly and prejudiced polling from out-of-staters comes up with—I had two WI school teachers staying at my house last week who complained about “outside agitators….!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Inboca/1829370356 Dave Inboca

    Pablo said:
    They’ve been discussing this possibility since the fleebaggers hit the road. If it isn’t perfectly legal, WI courts will overturn it. Which ain’t gonna happen.

    The Democrats forced this. They’ve crippled the Senate for 3 weeks. And when they do come back, they’re going to lose some more. Sucks to be them.

    Elections have consequences.

    Yep, and the recalls on on the 14 fleebaggers should proceed apace rapidly.

  • Joe Astroturf

    Thasnk God they showed some guts. Private unions made the country great but because of all these government union slackers that work for 20 years and then retire on our backs we’re losing our healthcare that we worked for. Unlike the nonpublic unions that have to create a product they just have to vote in democrats like craggly necked Nancy Pelosi so they can get rich and her elected. Even FDR and George Meaney the first president of the AFL-CIO knew the public unions would be like Dracula to our children as public unions like the teachers union sucked the blood out of our kids to enrich themselves. Because of the unions and Obamacare their taking Avastin away from 17,000 women with late-stage breast cancer and delabeling it . This means your girlfriends and wives and daughters won’t get to live as long as Nancy Pelosi as she sips her wine down in Napa valley with all of her pervert friends. If you don’t believe me do a web search on it and FDA decision. This is one of the reason I wrote this song “Teapartiers I can’t hear you” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfboOindCo. Older Vets and citizens don’t let them do this to your wife and loved ones. Nancy Pelosi can afford and get Avastin if she needs it, she don’t care about you but the illegals that will get your ObamaTakeAvastinAwayCare and will vote for her.
    Here’s a verse

    Doctors are retiring earlier but we’re getting 17000 new IRS
    This is how Obama creates health care jobs I guess
    For 234 years this country’s been God’s blessing.
    Now he’s following Cloward and Piven’s to bankrupt the country I’m guessing
    If Obamacare gives Grandma and Grandpa a scare
    Think how when their rationed and die earlier we’ll save on healthcare

    Hey guys if you fought at Iwo or the Chosen
    when they stop giving your wife her meds and her last breath comes over her face
    you’ll find comfort knowing Nancy’d gladly take her place.

  • newzmaker

    The voters of WI will ultimately have the final say on how the Repubs handled this crisis, with the unions. However, I am totally confused as to why the Dems in DC are so up in arms over the vote by the WI Repubs. I recall during the health care (lack of) debate, one old dude in the House of Representatives stated, ” there are no rules here, we make them up as we go along.” If Dems can make up their own rules, why can’t the Repubs?
    Come on, fair is fair.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbHTJSu_2Lk

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  • ChrisNH

    Sprocket said:
    I wonder if the 88% of the workers realize that union contracts drag their wage levels up too.

    That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. You can’t even prove it and no one believes it (aside from Lib shut-ins like you and Paul Krugman (et al)). Obamo can’t prove that the stimulus worked, either, while we’re on the subject of things having absolutely no correlation with each other.

  • Dave Richards

    Here are two quotes from Democrats. (paraphrased)

    1. During the Lewinsky scandal, Democrats kept saying Clinton should not be impeached. It was up to the voters to decide his fate.

    2. After being elected President, Obama dand the democrats said “Elections have consequences”.

    The hypocrisy of the left is simply amazing.

  • Dave Richards

    Dave Inboca said:
    As a native Wisconsinite, I understand Walker’s reticence to get out in front and turn the entire scene into a media circus. The people of Wisconsin still support the scaling back of union bargaining rights, despite what some polls are misinterpreted as have said. I also grind my teeth like Coulter at this reticence, but I have to admit that Coulter’s brand of arm-waving shouting just doesn’t come across in the Badger State—-not at all. Although she went to Law School in Ann Arbor, Ann doesn’t really understand the almost Canadian reserve of Wisconsinites over towards Minnesota. Minnesota is full of downright stupid people [I lived there for foure years] compared to Wisconsin. And Michigan where I went to grad school is a great place, but it ain’t WI. Let the WI people work this out in-state. It was the Demonrats who fled and now have to eat dirt while screaming from the rooftops for out-of-state help. Because they won’t get a majority of Wisconsinites to support the ridiculous coddling of school teachers while the ordinary working stiff is practically starving. No matter what silly and prejudiced polling from out-of-staters comes up with—I had two WI school teachers staying at my house last week who complained about “outside agitators….!”

    But Michigan has a better footbal program. :):)

  • Dave Richards

    Snowspot said:
    classy – About the union bill.. whatever, lets see how the Tea Party’s grand experiment goes. I wonder if wages will go down for everyone there now.. and I wonder how that will effect the consumer-driven economy.. time will tell.

    Government union wages have no impact on private sector wages.

  • Grammie

    newzmaker said:
    The voters of WI will ultimately have the final say on how the Repubs handled this crisis, with the unions. However, I am totally confused as to why the Dems in DC are so up in arms over the vote by the WI Repubs. I recall during the health care (lack of) debate, one old dude in the House of Representatives stated, ” there are no rules here, we make them up as we go along.” If Dems can make up their own rules, why can’t the Repubs?
    Come on, fair is fair.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbHTJSu_2Lk

    .
    He failed to mention the first and most important of all the rules or their prime directive::

    Dems are the STICKERS and REPUBS are always the STUCKEES.

  • CosmosDan

    Yoda002 said:
    Koch Industries is a major player in Wisconsin: Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits.

    They also want the states power plants and to get those no-bid contracts at below market prices.

    Right. There was a provision in this bill that didn’t get much publicity allowing some of the states energy assets to be sold off without approval or supervision. There’s also a provision to remove legislative oversight from how the DHS handles Medicaid.
    Stuff that grants authority and removes oversight, checks and balances, deserves a little scrutiny.

  • glenn113

    Dems, unions and rest of middle class Wisconsin residents do what they have to do but must be aware that the bald-headed mouse Karl Rove and the rest of the progandists at Fox will be watching every move.

  • lane

    Federal employees do very well without collective bargaining, Next up, the end of teacher tenure, which hopefully everyone can agree to. It’s a shame to all the good teachers to be lumped in with the few bad apples… Mostly, the kids pay for bad teachers…

  • Pablo

    glenn113 said:
    Dems, unions and rest of middle class Wisconsin residents do what they have to do but must be aware that the bald-headed mouse Karl Rove and the rest of the progandists at Fox will be watching every move.

    Not to mention the FBI. This is what progressive “democracy” looks like.

  • Oregon Conservative

    It’s still a great day the day after.

    God Bless Scott Walker!

  • Nachi

    Ya! Gut! Ich bin ein Republican! Jawohl. Wiederbetaetigung!!!

  • illusive man

    Nachi said:
    Nachi likeum da crunchy munchy Manchins snirf snirf burp.

    Yes Nachi we know, Now back to your cage or it is to the Glue Factory with you.

  • nutsofast

    gordonbloyershow said:
    You libs are so out of touch. 88% of the workforce doesn’t belong to a union. Do you think they really care about a public employees union? Why would they care when the results from the union teachers are failing like this?

    82 percent of US schools may be labeled ‘failing’
    (AP) – 8 hours ago

    The number of schools labeled as “failing” under the nation’s No Child Left Behind Act could skyrocket dramatically this year, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Wednesday.

    The Department of Education estimates the percentage of schools not meeting yearly targets for their students’ proficiency in in math and reading could jump from 37 to 82 percent as states raise standards in attempts to satisfy the law’s mandates.

    The 2002 law requires states to set targets aimed at having all students proficient in math and reading by 2014, a standard now viewed as wildly unrealistic.

    “No Child Left Behind is broken and we need to fix it now,” Duncan said in a statement. “This law has created a thousand ways for schools to fail and very few ways to help them succeed.”

    Duncan presented the figures at a House education and work force committee hearing, in urging lawmakers to rewrite the Bush-era act. Both Republicans and Democrats agree the law needs to be reformed, though they disagree on issues revolving around the federal role of education and how to turn around failing schools.

    A surge in schools not meeting annual growth targets could have various implications. The most severe consequences — interventions that could include closure or replacing staff — would be reserved for those schools where students have been failing to improve for several consecutive years.

    gordonbloyershow said:
    LOL, the problem is you scum that are paid shills for Obama and the unions. The end is near.

    88% of America’s workers don’t belong to a union. When teachers unions abuse the system and turn out results like the ones below, they deserve to be dumped.

    82 percent of US schools may be labeled ‘failing’
    (AP) – 8 hours ago

    The number of schools labeled as “failing” under the nation’s No Child Left Behind Act could skyrocket dramatically this year, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Wednesday.

    The Department of Education estimates the percentage of schools not meeting yearly targets for their students’ proficiency in in math and reading could jump from 37 to 82 percent as states raise standards in attempts to satisfy the law’s mandates.

    The 2002 law requires states to set targets aimed at having all students proficient in math and reading by 2014, a standard now viewed as wildly unrealistic.

    “No Child Left Behind is broken and we need to fix it now,” Duncan said in a statement. “This law has created a thousand ways for schools to fail and very few ways to help them succeed.”

    Duncan presented the figures at a House education and work force committee hearing, in urging lawmakers to rewrite the Bush-era act. Both Republicans and Democrats agree the law needs to be reformed, though they disagree on issues revolving around the federal role of education and how to turn around failing schools.

    A surge in schools not meeting annual growth targets could have various implications. The most severe consequences — interventions that could include closure or replacing staff — would be reserved for those schools where students have been failing to improve for several consecutive years.

    HEY MORON
    No child left behind is a BUSH program.

    Sorry you got left BEHIND.

  • right-is-wrong

    nutsofast said:
    HEY MORON
    No child left behind is a BUSH program.

    Sorry you got left BEHIND.

    Too bad it wasn’t the “No fat goofy old guys left behind” bill.

    HAHAHAHA

  • Darr247

    “The anti-union provisions that did not affect the state’s budget just passed the Senate with only Republican support.”

    Wait a minute… if they did not affect the state’s budget, how are those provisions supposed to save money?

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    Pay freeze without price freeze is attack on the poor and needy. Look what it did to Egypt and Libya. After attacking wages of main street these same Wisconsin Political figures could gain clout and respect if they are honest enough to attack the earnings and benefits of Political Management and then the earnings of; or should I say the Loot of Wall Street gamblers that are truly bringing down our country, otherwise they will look like a bunch of gangsters themselves doing their greedy deeds. We must remember when Osama bin Laden went to college in American, he immediately went back home and planed an attack on Wall Street not just
    American as some think, it was directed at WALL STREET when he did the basement before he went for the top of those towers. Wall Street is like some bad kids in our family and they need butt kicked big time, otherwise picking on the working class amounts to additional gangster-ism.

  • X-3

    Wisconsin Senate Pass Anti-Union Half Of Controversial Bill Absent Democrats

    GOOD! They have shown the 88% of Wisconsinites who aren’t members of unions that they have their best interest in mind.

    ANYONE who is a member of a union is STUPID.

  • X-3

    Nachi said:
    Ya! Gut! Ich bin ein Republican! Jawohl. Wiederbetaetigung!!!

    Translation: Nachi wants a banana.

  • X-3

    ImJustThatDamnStupid said:
    A sad day for the middle class.

    and a worse day for communists, socialists, and the mafia.

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