So….The theater showed the film at 12:01 AM. I know there will be much sneering from the left that no one showed up for it, so I’d like to make a couple of points about that.

1. It was in Orange County. Not exactly a conservative stronghold, is it?

2. I wonder just how well any documentaries made for just over a million dollars would do at that time?

3. The people inclined to watch this film, um, mostly have jobs and families. Midnight is a bit late for most of them.

4. How’d the film go in the rest of the limited release? During the day, I mean.

But, hey, go ahead and sneer. And get you hankies ready. You’ll be whining soon enough.

Harry Flashman said:
So….The theater showed the film at 12:01 AM. I know there will be much sneering from the left that no one showed up for it, so I’d like to make a couple of points about that.

1. It was in Orange County. Not exactly a conservative stronghold, is it?

2. I wonder just how well any documentaries made for just over a million dollars would do at that time?

3. The people inclined to watch this film, um, mostly have jobs and families. Midnight is a bit late for most of them.

4. How’d the film go in the rest of the limited release? During the day, I mean.

But, hey, go ahead and sneer. And get you hankies ready. You’ll be whining soon enough.

Um, have you ever been to Orange County? It is the very definition of a conservative stronghold, to the point that they want Southern California to secede from the rest of us.

I won’t dispute your other points, but on that one, you are dead wrong.

Harry Flashman said:
So….The theater showed the film at 12:01 AM. I know there will be much sneering from the left that no one showed up for it, so I’d like to make a couple of points about that.

1. It was in Orange County. Not exactly a conservative stronghold, is it?

2. I wonder just how well any documentaries made for just over a million dollars would do at that time?

3. The people inclined to watch this film, um, mostly have jobs and families. Midnight is a bit late for most of them.

4. How’d the film go in the rest of the limited release? During the day, I mean.

But, hey, go ahead and sneer. And get you hankies ready. You’ll be whining soon enough.

I’ll go ahead and sneer, because you obviously didn’t read the article. If you had, you would know about the history of Orange county and you would know that it was released at 10 movie theaters.

Can you spare a hankie?

lillyluminatus said:
Um, have you ever been to Orange County? It is the very definition of a conservative stronghold, to the point that they want Southern California to secede from the rest of us.

I won’t dispute your other points, but on that one, you are dead wrong.

One word: Bob Dornan (a truly despicable fellow)
There are many conservatives left in the OC.

If you don’t read Conor Friedersdorf regularly, you should. One of the best writers around.

“his hit piece in an attempt to stop the Palin Movie, The Undefeated, from being seen.”

LOL

Will cons ever stop crying and whining?

Yes, sure, it’s a conspiracy that Palin’s movie sucks.

Open question to cons: are you going to fork over $10 to see that POS in theaters?

HONESTLY?

Would you????

Wow. Note that this article draws lefty commeters like flies.

Oenolicious said:

“I’ll go ahead and sneer, because you obviously didn’t read the article.”

Wrong. I did read the article, both the take here and the one in the Atlantic. It’s simply another Palin bash Why would any writer go to a midnight release of a documentary unless it was to look for the results he got? Objective journalism? Not much.

Another point: Palin didn’t commission this film. Why bash her over it? Oh…because you can, that’s why. Typical.

To lillyluminatus:

Orange County may be strongly conservative if you use the rest of California as a basis for that remark, but in the big picture I hardly think a midnight showing would have done the film justice. They knew that. Oh, and by the way, yeah, the film was relased in 10 theaters – across the country. Only one in Orange County.

Nice rebuttal. Now try one based in fact.

Harry Flashman said:

1. It was in Orange County. Not exactly a conservative stronghold, is it?

Um, yes Orange County is famously Republican. Richard Nixon was born there.

Harry Flashman said:
Wow. Note that this article draws lefty commeters like flies.

Oenolicious said:

“I’ll go ahead and sneer, because you obviously didn’t read the article.”

Wrong. I did read the article, both the take here and the one in the Atlantic. It’s simply another Palin bash Why would any writer go to a midnight release of a documentary unless it was to look for the results he got? Objective journalism? Not much.

Another point: Palin didn’t commission this film. Why bash her over it? Oh…because you can, that’s why. Typical.

To lillyluminatus:

Orange County may be strongly conservative if you use the rest of California as a basis for that remark, but in the big picture I hardly think a midnight showing would have done the film justice. They knew that. Oh, and by the way, yeah, the film was relased in 10 theaters – across the country. Only one in Orange County.

Nice rebuttal. Now try one based in fact.

Um, Palin DID commission the film. It was only made after her aides approached the film-maker for a series of shorter propaganda pieces, and they agreed on this format instead.

shootfromthehip asks:

“Open question to cons: are you going to fork over $10 to see that POS in theaters?

HONESTLY?”

Yep. In a heartbeat.

Just like the lefty droids paid to see the far left tripe from Michael Moore and Al Gore.

“Um, Palin DID commission the film”

Wrong. Google the interviews with the film maker.

This is a strange website, Harry, have you noticed that all the commercials seem to be from MSNBC? WTF, right?
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Harry Flashman said:
“Um, Palin DID commission the film”

Wrong. Google the interviews with the film maker.

“Shortly after Republicans swept last November to a historic victory in which Sarah Palin was credited with playing a central role, the former Alaska governor pulled aside her close aide, Rebecca Mansour, to discuss a hush-hush assignment: Reach out to conservative filmmaker Stephen K. Bannon with a request. Ask him if he would make a series of videos extolling Palin’s governorship and laying to rest lingering questions about her controversial decision to resign from office with a year-and-a-half left in her first term.

…Impressed, Palin promoted ‘Generation Zero’ via Twitter before later reaching out to Bannon about creating something to highlight her record in Alaska, where her performance in office was overshadowed by her resignation eight months after the 2008 presidential election.

Though she did not have any editorial role in the project, Palin facilitated access for Bannon and his film crew to key Alaskan defenders ”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/05/25/palins_secret_weapon_new_film_to_premiere_in_june_109949.html

“A feature film commissioned by Republican Sarah Palin that positively portrays her time as Alaska’a governor will be released in Iowa next month.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/163215-palin-movie-to-premiere-in-iowa

“When Sarah Palin’s political action committee was looking for someone who would be good at producing an online video about her, the filmmaker they approached had all the right conservative bona fides.”
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/07/13/3011326/director-of-sarah-palin-documentary.html#ixzz1SCS8Xmiu

Come again?

Why does this reporter even bother going to the Palin film? You already know what The Atlantic will write about Palin in advance. The Atlantic “journalist” might as well just phone in the smears and abuse, and then go cheer on Lord Voldemort.

Harry Flashman said:
1. It was in Orange County. Not exactly a conservative stronghold, is it?

What a dumbass. It is a conservative stronghold, and anybody who has followed politics knows it. Consider yourself irrelevant.

Mediaite publishing an anti-Palin story without checking on the facts? Say it ain’t so. Kind of like the whole News Corp didn’t pay any taxes story that was WRONG, FLAT OUT FALSE, tyical left wing hate piece, and yet, headlined here without any validating mechanism.

oh well….we kind of get used to that level of garbage; at least you are checking into this one, and for that I say hip hip.

This just in: Conor Friedersdorf doesn’t have any friends.

lillyluminatus said:
to the point that they want Southern California to secede from the rest of us.

Who wouldn’t want to secede from the dolts in San Fran?

Azarkhan said:
Who wouldn’t want to secede from the dolts in San Fran?

Anyone with any appreciation of diversity, or culture, or history, perhaps?

Nature Freak said:
One word: Bob Dornan (a truly despicable fellow)
There are many conservatives left in the OC.

I should of said two words.
There are conservatives I respect.
There are conservatives who have a sense of dignity.
Former Rep. Bob Dornan is nether.

“Orange County has not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since Franklin D. Roosevelt’s 1936 landslide re-election for a second term.”

“According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County,_California#Politics

Of course, its a very bad move to open any film the same night as the last harry Potter movie.

Harry Flashman said:
Wow. Note that this article draws lefty commeters like flies. Oenolicious said: “I’ll go ahead and sneer, because you obviously didn’t read the article.” Wrong. I did read the article, both the take here and the one in the Atlantic. It’s simply another Palin bash Why would any writer go to a midnight release of a documentary unless it was to look for the results he got? Objective journalism? Not much. Another point: Palin didn’t commission this film. Why bash her over it? Oh…because you can, that’s why. Typical. To lillyluminatus: Orange County may be strongly conservative if you use the rest of California as a basis for that remark, but in the big picture I hardly think a midnight showing would have done the film justice. They knew that. Oh, and by the way, yeah, the film was relased in 10 theaters – across the country. Only one in Orange County. Nice rebuttal. Now try one based in fact.

it isn’t a conservative stronghold? they haven’t voted democrat since 1936.orange county’s reagan country, through and through.

I’ll comment on this later since I actually worked in OC politics. :) Off to go boating, play ladder golf and enjoy time with relatives! Have a lovely weekend all! :)

All I will say as of this point is that I know two theaters sold out of tickets so far. I’ve been too busy to check anything lately so I’ll do that later tonight.

Harry – You’re right, conservative in CA doesn’t mean too much. Coming from the Midwest, it’s a “whatever can get elected” type of conservative versus “this person has my values” type of conservative. OC is more conservative as a whole, but when you compare it to LA/SF, I don’t think that’s saying much. The conservatives are super nice though. :)

“The Undefeated” is preaching to the choir.

People who like Sarah Palin will continue to do so.
People who dislike Sarah Palin will continue to do so.

This is not a game changer. The average voter living in Buttfunk or Peoria or wherever USA will never see this movie, even if its in a discount bin at WalMart.
I am a political junkie like the rest of us on Mediaite, but most Americans are not. If this is the big plan to change hearts and minds in America in regards to Palin, her advisers need to be looking at ‘plan B’.

I dislike Michele Bachmann’s politics. I find Michele and her religious beliefs to be intolerant toward GLBT people. She is not what I am looking for in a POTUS, but at least she has the guts and courage to put her hat in the ring and officially run for President.

I really thought Palin was going to run, but I am starting to suspect Sarah Palin is just a tease.

This is an excerpt from “The Undefeated” WARNING SPOILER ALERT!
When the girl was born…
… like all Wasillans, she was inspected.
If she’d been small or puny
or sickly or misshapen…
… she would have been discarded.
From the time she could stand,
she was baptized in the fire of combat.
Taught never to retreat,
never to surrender.
Taught that death on the battlefield
in service to America…
… was the greatest glory
she could achieve in her life.
At age 7, as is customary in Wasilla…
… the girl was taken from her mother
and plunged into a world of violence.
Manufactured by years
of Wasilla warrior society…
… to create the finest Mama Grizzlies
the world has ever known.
The agoge for women, as it’s called,
forces the girls to fight.
Starves them, forces them to steal…
… and if necessary, to kill.
By rod and lash the girl was punished…
… taught to show no pain, no mercy.
Constantly tested, tossed into the wild.
Left to pit her wits and will
against nature’s fury.
It was her initiation…
… her time in the wild…
… for she would return to her people
a Wasillan…
… or not at all.
And so the girl, given up for dead…
… returns to her people,
to sacred Wasilla, a queen!
Our Queen, Sarah Louise Palin!
THIS IS WASILLA!
(yes this is satire)

shootfromthehip said:
Open question to cons: are you going to fork over $10 to see that POS in theaters?

No. Not only no, but hell no. I won’t even watch it for free.

lillyluminatus said:
Anyone with any appreciation of diversity, or culture, or history, perhaps?

Is that how you spin the whole cesspool thing nowadays? Diversity? Yes, filled with illegals. Culture? Culture of corruption maybe. History? Yeah, we just heard. The history of gays and transgenders.

“Harry – You’re right, conservative in CA doesn’t mean too much. Coming from the Midwest, it’s a “whatever can get elected” type of conservative versus “this person has my values” type of conservative. OC is more conservative as a whole, but when you compare it to LA/SF, I don’t think that’s saying much.”

That was the point I was making. I didn’t make myself clear, so the lefties are pouncing. Notice that it’s the only thing I said that they are pouncing on, though. Facts are such inconvenient things.

By the way, lillyluminatus said (in reference to San Francisco):

“Anyone with any appreciation of diversity, or culture, or history, perhaps?

Don’t you mean an appreciation of high taxes, depravity, and perversion? Just asking.

Harry Flashman said:
“Harry – You’re right, conservative in CA doesn’t mean too much. Coming from the Midwest, it’s a “whatever can get elected” type of conservative versus “this person has my values” type of conservative. OC is more conservative as a whole, but when you compare it to LA/SF, I don’t think that’s saying much.”

That was the point I was making. I didn’t make myself clear, so the lefties are pouncing. Notice that it’s the only thing I said that they are pouncing on, though. Facts are such inconvenient things.

By the way, lillyluminatus said (in reference to San Francisco):

“Anyone with any appreciation of diversity, or culture, or history, perhaps?

Don’t you mean an appreciation of high taxes, depravity, and perversion? Just asking.

Didn’t lilly also say that Palin fronted the money for this project? They certainly don’t know how to talk anything but union talking points.

WCinWI said:
I’ll comment on this later since I actually worked in OC politics. :) Off to go boating, play ladder golf and enjoy time with relatives! Have a lovely weekend all! :) All I will say as of this point is that I know two theaters sold out of tickets so far. I’ve been too busy to check anything lately so I’ll do that later tonight. Harry – You’re right, conservative in CA doesn’t mean too much. Coming from the Midwest, it’s a “whatever can get elected” type of conservative versus “this person has my values” type of conservative. OC is more conservative as a whole, but when you compare it to LA/SF, I don’t think that’s saying much. The conservatives are super nice though. :)

And to quote Rep. Wilson, “You Lie!” Only one theater showing the movie in Orange County and plenty of tickets for all shows including the midnight viewing.

Harry Flashman said:

That was the point I was making. I didn’t make myself clear, so the lefties are pouncing. Notice that it’s the only thing I said that they are pouncing on, though. Facts are such inconvenient things.

I call BS; just look at your first comment back on page 1. It was quite clear.

Orange County was a brilliant place to show the Palin movie; they just picked the worse weekend imaginable.

Gracie1705 said:
And to quote Rep. Wilson, “You Lie!” Only one theater showing the movie in Orange County and plenty of tickets for all shows including the midnight viewing.

I never said that the locations were in OC. So try that again. :)

2012freedom said:
Is that how you spin the whole cesspool thing nowadays? Diversity? Yes, filled with illegals. Culture? Culture of corruption maybe. History? Yeah, we just heard. The history of gays and transgenders.

That’s quite interesting.

Illegals of what descent, exactly? The only populations (other than white) that make up a large portion of the population in SF are those of Asian and Middle Eastern descent, and I have yet to hear an argument that either of those populations is primarily illegal.

As for your culture of corruption, I have absolutely no clue what you are referencing.

And yes, we happen to celebrate the lives and cultures of ALL Americans, not just those who live their lives the way we do personally. There is nothing that makes San Francisco a more amazing city than its openness and acceptance of all.

But way to betray your bigotry!

WCinWI said:
Didn’t lilly also say that Palin fronted the money for this project? They certainly don’t know how to talk anything but union talking points.

Actually, that’s not even remotely what I said. I said the movie was made because her aides approached the filmmaker. But way to strike down an argument no one made!

WCinWI said:
Didn’t lilly also say that Palin fronted the money for this project? They certainly don’t know how to talk anything but union talking points.

And for the love of God, what union are you talking about? As far as I know, there is no such thing as an attorney’s union, and if there is, I am, in fact, not a part of it, or any other union.

lillyluminatus said:
Actually, that’s not even remotely what I said. I said the movie was made because her aides approached the filmmaker. But way to strike down an argument no one made!

So then your statement would be false. It’s so easy to disprove you.

If I was a Palin supporter I would definitely go to the midnight show.

I wouldn’t want anyone to see me.

lillyluminatus said:
And for the love of God, what union are you talking about? As far as I know, there is no such thing as an attorney’s union, and if there is, I am, in fact, not a part of it, or any other union.

That was some poor grammar skills for being an attorney. :)

WCinWI said:
That was some poor grammar skills for being an attorney. :)

And that was some poor grammar skills [sic] for someone trying to make a joke about grammar skills. I mean, really?

WCinWI said:
So then your statement would be false. It’s so easy to disprove you.

Sorry, that’s a fact mentioned by almost every news story that has covered the film.

PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian said:
This is a strange website, Harry, have you noticed that all the commercials seem to be from MSNBC? WTF, right?
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Hey, how come you don’t comment over at Reason anymore? I think it’s hilarious when real libertarians tear you apart for being a faux-libertarian.

Interesting update.

But…nobody from the lefty media would be so stupid as to stage a stunt like this just to take a shot at Palin.

Would they?

It was in Thursday morning’s paper,19 hours before the showing.

Another lame teabagger conspiracy.

There are also midnight shows for Friday and Saturday, so obviously this isn’t all part of a scam to get a reporter in there on Thursday night.

I would guess the theater owner did it because he thought he could make money.
He advertised it 19 hours before and it was on very few screens nationwide..
He was allowed to do it and he did it.
With the amount of Palin fans out there I would think they would have filled up the theater just out of principal.
Look what the did for Bristol on DWTS and her Amazon book page.

I’m actually surprised no one showed up.
Word is the 10:15 AM show was half full.
I would have expected more.

BFD said:

“Word is the 10:15 AM show was half full. I would have expected more.”

Unless this movie is an astronomical success the left will label it as a failure. No matter what, no matter if it makes the investment back (a Hollywood success) or atually turns a profit, or even returns the investment many times over – it won’t be good enough.

Predictable.

BFD said:
I would guess the theater owner did it because he thought he could make money.
He advertised it 19 hours before and it was on very few screens nationwide..
He was allowed to do it and he did it.
With the amount of Palin fans out there I would think they would have filled up the theater just out of principal.
Look what the did for Bristol on DWTS and her Amazon book page.

I’m actually surprised no one showed up.
Word is the 10:15 AM show was half full.
I would have expected more.

I guess he could have been hoping for some overflow traffic, though I highly doubt the demo for a Potter film quite syncs up with the demo for a documentary about Palin.

I have to laugh about the number of posts this has garnered over at the Atlantic. I’ve only read a handful of Friedersdorf’s articles anywhere, so am I wrong in assuming that he had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek in this article?

Harry Flashman said:
Interesting update.

But…nobody from the lefty media would be so stupid as to stage a stunt like this just to take a shot at Palin.

Would they?

Harry – After looking at various articles, it looks like the theater added a showing to “hold a place” of the documentary in addition to the Harry Potter movie.

These were the only advertised times: http://www.rightspeak.net/2011/07/midnight-showing-story-is-complete.html

Here’s Riehl’s take: http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2011/07/conor-pee-wee-herman-friedersdorf-exposes-himself-to-female-at-palin-film-showing.html

http://texansforsarahpalin.blogspot.com/2011/07/hows-undefeated-doing-today-not-bad.html

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/the-undefeated-roars-to-big-opening-day-theaters-sell-out-from-atlanta-to-orange-county/

Welp. I’ll say it again. If you aren’t reading Conor Friedersdorf regularly, you should be. Great writer, really cuts through bullshlt. http://www.theatlantic.com/conor-friedersdorf

Of course everyone is going to be watching the Harry Potter movie over a political documentary since it is the final and best one of the Potter stories.  Also all the media hype during the past week has been all about the Potter film and virtually nothing about Palins film.  If the film is still out next week i might catch a matinee showing.

Of course everyone is going to be watching the Harry Potter movie over a political documentary since it is the final and best one of the Potter stories.  Also all the media hype during the past week has been all about the Potter film and virtually nothing about Palins film.  If the film is still out next week i might catch a matinee showing.

Of course, Conor is too stupid to realize most of the “first wave” of potential viewers of *The Undefeated* are among those who still have jobs instead of relying on government assistance; and that they know they have to get enough sleep in order to perform well, so they can *keep* their jobs.  This means they will show up for the evening showings, once they are off of work.
Or, it could be, he’s just a lying shill.

Clearly an example of liberal media bias. Promoting wizardry at the expense of Palin.

Apparently Disqus can’t prevent Stupid.

Nope.  Turns out James O’Keefe is a righty, not a lefty…

Nope.  Turns out James O’Keefe is a righty, not a lefty…

And when the film attracts anywhere from an empty theatre to a half empty theatre, conservatives will claim a liberal conspiracy.

Predictable is right!

Obviously.

One again, Palin supporters prove truth and honesty aren’t important to them. Just as they tried to change Wiki to reflect history the way Sarah Palin tried to portray it, now they don’t bother to look at facts before making an accusation of “staging”. The accompanying scan of the newspaper clearly shows it was advertised in the paper. But they couldn’t be bothered with those pesky little facts. It does make me wonder if their shouldn’t be at least some kind of competency test before some of these folks are allowed to vote. I am not convinced these are people who are “all there”.

One again, Palin supporters prove truth and honesty aren’t important to them. Just as they tried to change Wiki to reflect history the way Sarah Palin tried to portray it, now they don’t bother to look at facts before making an accusation of “staging”. The accompanying scan of the newspaper clearly shows it was advertised in the paper. But they couldn’t be bothered with those pesky little facts. It does make me wonder if their shouldn’t be at least some kind of competency test before some of these folks are allowed to vote. I am not convinced these are people who are “all there”.

That’s what happens when you cross the line from political movement to personality cult.  ”Reality” simply doesn’t permit anything that reflects poorly on the cult leader.

Gov Palin detractors are as dumb as a stump. Comparing a documentary to a movie is hilarious. Documentaries never garner the audience a general movie does; ever. Let’s compare the limited marketing and advertising budget to that of a movie, like Harry Potter.

Moreover, The Undefeated was never intended for the ignorant closed minded detractors. No, you prefer to live in willingly blissful ignorant.

I don’t think they’re that stupid.  To be an effective shot at Palin someone would have to be there to see it.

Good sarcastic comments, guys. Too bad one person in 1,000 will be dumb enough to believe you mean it.

I think we are at 14 minutes and counting.

Fox News claims that the theaters were packed. Take a look http://nation.foxnews.com/undefeated/2011/07/17/palin-film-opens-strong-theaters-packed#

Conservatives in California. Actually that is a big surprise to MANY of us here in Missouri. And I’m being serious.

I’ve always wanted to visit California, but traveling abroad is such a hassle….

I never go to theaters. Don’t want my money going to Jew studios to finance the jew war against plaestine……no wait, sorry, that’s the Libs.

Kinda like how more books have been sold, by far, that criticize Obama than Obama’s actual books have sold?
Maybe he should write a new book about the decades of work, struggle, and sacrifice the Nobel committee cited when they rewarded his Prize. I mean that could easily run to three, maybe even four…pages.

Kudos to a good point.

Wow, I voted for Palin and you, as a hater, seem to know WAY more about her dealings than I do.

And now, it’s suddenly so clear why Obama is president: You’d rather research who you’d never vote for then who you’d already decided to vote for.

Honestly, thanks. It took me since 07 to make that realization.

most Americans don’t follow foreign politics though…..:)

Anyone with any appreciation of diversity, or culture, or history, perhaps?

And you are claiming San Fran has these things, i take it?

“intolerant toward GLBT people.”

Show me one person who does not have some sort of intolerance against a group the size of the LGBT community, which is commonly represented as, what, 3% of the Us population.
By being intolerant of religious beliefs you cast intolerance on something like 40%+ of the population…

How can people not think in this way?

relevance please!

How can you denigrate Wilson for speaking out to Obama, THEN use the event you maligned to support your own argument?

No, honestly, did you have to take a class to learn this mental gymnastic maneuver?

He does make a good point; San Fran being a sanctuary city, we have no idea how many illegal immigrants live there. Could be millions. Lillyluminatus could in fact be one of them for all San Fran cares about the rule of law.

So what you are saying is that her underlings handled the details on her behalf, thereby making her complicit and ultimately responsible. Much like Obama’s underlings, such as Eric Holder and his employees, handled Operations Gunrunner and Fast & Furious, and as such, and following the logic of your argument, thereby making him complicit and ultimately responsible for the program and the subsequent deaths of federal officers and US citizens as a direct result of said programs.

Good,I had been waiting for someone to explain that all to me. It would be nice to see someone in a leadership role take some responsibility.

seeing the rabidity verging on violence of Palin’s detractors, me too, for personal safety reasons. It truly is sad we live in a country where your life can be threatened simply for agreeing with someone, don’t you think?

There was a good point made above, that most Palin supporters are employed and have families, thus mostly precluding them being up and about in the midnight hours.

This was a question that was never addressed during the wisconsin labor riots: Who the hell can take off work for weeks at a time to go to another state to protest? How would you expect to have a job when you get back? These were serious questions that were never answered, which really begs the question: professional, possibly paid protesters?

Yeah, seeing as there is a concerted religious effort to have harry Potter books banned as promoting witchcraft. You can be sarcastic, read wasteful of time, or you could reference an actual, and to me somewhat disturbing, movement toward censorship

EVIDENCE ^^^^^^^^^^^

“personality cult”

Oh so now we can use that phrase? When Obama’s ’08 campaign was compared, quite strikingly I might add, to the Cult of Personality around Stalin, racism was called.

So by the apparent rules of leftist conduct, Cult of Personality is cool again. That’s all, back to your adoration…..

I don’t know about this films performance, But when i saw Atlas Shrugged part 1 at it’s midnight premiere here in St Louis, I had standing room only, which was uncomfortable for an entire film, but worth it.

Although it is hard to compare a novel adaptation to a documentary. Keep in mind that the best performing film of all time is an environmentalist documentary about giant smurfs, magical trees, and interstellar travel…

Im just gonna wait for the dvd-blueray combo to come out.

Liberals hate the truth
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/18/palin.film/index.html?iref=obinsite

Kennesaw, Georgia (CNN) — The distributor of the Sarah Palin
biopic “The Undefeated” is expected to announce details of a wider run
after a 10-city opening over the weekend.
The film’s
distributor, ARC Entertainment, said the film averaged $5,000 per
screen Friday and Saturday night, with sold-out screenings at several
locations. ARC Entertainment said in a statement “… with the strong
initial showing, the film is going to a wider release footprint later
this month.”

and, UH, you didn’t read the piece.  Friedersdorf didn’t bash Palin.  (He has, like a lot of people, bashed her elsewhere.  But the piece was based on a statement of fact:  he went, and the theater was empty.)  Why can’t you absorb that fact?  Conor has also described full theaters; his interest was in interviewing Palin supporters.  
The astonishing thing about the Palin defenders (Friedersdorf’s point) is that they have become used to disputing facts casually, indiscriminately, and in some cases, for no intelligent political purpose.

The original Flashman only lied when there was profit, or trim, to be had.

Join the culture!  Lie intelligently!

Lily, did you catch that?  Flashman and Ram are wrong–caught blinking–and what is discovered is that Obama is a bad president.  This is t-shirt-worthy projection:

“You’d rather research who you’d never vote for then who you’d already decided to vote for.”

Translation:  You voted for Obama, which is evidence that you are easily fooled.  Yet you did all this, like, clicking around to make Palin look bad (not her fault, of course, give me a minute and I’ll come up with an explanation for why your multiple sources are wrong that will make Occam crap his casket).  So thanks, I mean, really, THANKS for helping me to point out that I had Obama figured out since a year before he was elected.  The blinding contradiction between the second and third paragraphs is also Obama’s fault.  (I added that last part because I don’t want to read ramv36′s emendation posts to come.)

Always helpful to correspond with real Heartland conservatives.  It’s easy to forget that people can be more boldly, unapologetically nasty than even Eric Cantor.

icis

sigh.  Read Conor’s piece, then say that again.  Even Voldemort has rules.

Feldman–printed the Friedersdorf scan of the paper without explanation.  Bad journalism.  You were wrong to include the “balancing” business of the “conservative website”.  Setting Freedomist and the Atlantic as equal–false dichotomy.  If you pick up the Friedersdorf story you should treat it objectively (you do more or less).  

The evidence that Freedomist was wrong doesn’t balance your gratuitous, careless addition.  You should have detailed how the evidence of fact from Friedersdorf completely rebutted the Freedomist post and acknowledged that you were wrong to include it

Otherwise you further the conservative (and sometimes liberal) purpose of offering a counter to everything, no matter how absurd, and capitalizing on the lazy, rigid willingness of the far-right reader to count 1 plus 1 and believe “I’m right again.”  Be less accommodating and more of a journalist, or stick to fluffy crap about twitter wars.

ice

Apparently you’re not a true believer:

http://newsok.com/sarah-palin-fans-brave-cold-to-have-books-signed/article/3422087

Because of someone who was born there 2 years shy of a hundred years ago, OC “is famously Republican.”  Did you graduate from Harvard?

“People who dislike Sarah Palin will continue to do so.”  NOT if they see the movie.