“I think Republicans would be foolish [to go on about Rangel]. They should just shut up. There’s a bipartisan effort, let the process go forward. They don’t need to jump on this. Believe me there are plenty of congressmen in both parties that have been imperial an arrogant….”

Yeah Bill; those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!

Seems to me you’ve actually got an issue with Rangel so instead on counting seats you don’t have yet why dopn’t you and your party actually make a stand on corruption issues.

Unless of course there’s some reason you wouldn’t want to do that….?

Oh yeah….

Republicans , hush . …We want to hear from Alan Grayson about this …. What does Jackson -Lee think ? …What ‘s the Weiner angle ?

More importantly, what does Alvin Greene think?

Kristol is afraid of being called a racist. He will defend black crooks to gain favor with the black folks. It never happens, you never get credit for defending anything they do. Rangle is a crook and a liar. He should have been removed years ago.

writer said:
More importantly, what does Alvin Greene think?

Alvin Greene think? That’s like asking what does a Republican think? The irony is neither demonstrates thought.

Actually the best part of Fox News Sunday is when Gov. Sarah Palin said that Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has “the cojones” that President Obama does not have.

I am sure she has the WH & the on-airs at MSNBC & CNN wringing their hands…plotting how they are going to get back at her for saying the president does not the the “cojones” to stop the illegals from crossing the border.

Kristol is right, don’t pick on 80 year old Charlie. He’s been instrumental in raising his constituency out poverty and joblessness, oh shit…wait a minute…nevermind. heh heh heh

Seriously though, why pick on an old man in a $5,000 suit wearing a $20k rolex and $10k worth of gold accessories standing in the middle of Harlem next to his rent controlled apts and his taxpayer funded mercedes..

He’s been of such enormous help…..

all he’s gonna get is a reprimand anyway, for god’s sake he’s black AND a democrat, that’s a free pass or a promotion in this “post racial” world of Obama.

When it comes to Republican criticism of Charlie Rangel,
this is a perfect time to remember that sometimes:
LESS IS MORE!!!!

Leave Rangel alone? Will the IRS leave citizens alone if they ignore the draconian tax laws imposed by Charlie Rangel as head of the House Ways and Means committee? The day that happen is the day we should leave Rangel alone for a very calculated and widespread abuse of tax laws.

I have no idea why Bill Kristol doesn’t agree, unless he is afraid of an IRS audit. The idea that the politicians who make tax law should follow these same laws honestly seems like a no-brainer.

“Kristol is afraid of being called a racist. He will defend black crooks to gain favor with the black folks. It never happens, you never get credit for defending anything they do. Rangle is a crook and a liar. He should have been removed years ago.”

that sure is some classy race baiting you stupid moron; and against bill kristol? yeah its official-you’re retarded and consistent..

Well Boot, ya just proved Gordons point, now didn’t ya? Gordons a racist for calling a crook a crook….

You are the gift that just keeps on giving.

Bill Kristol: Republicans Should ‘Just Shut Up’ About Charlie Rangel”

Agreed. Let him and Waters become a laughing stock at their public hearings. This should be good.

Let us not forget the racist Maxine Waters. She defended the thugs that almost beat a white truck driver to death during the Watts riots. Of course I think she was out selling some stationary at the time.

View my video of my experience with Maxie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJHUGwL2uec

more lies about lies from gordon blows his show.

Typical

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

Bootleghaircut said:
“Kristol is afraid of being called a racist. He will defend black crooks to gain favor with the black folks. It never happens, you never get credit for defending anything they do. Rangle is a crook and a liar. He should have been removed years ago.”

that sure is some classy race baiting you stupid moron; and against bill kristol? yeah its official-you’re retarded and consistent..

timzank said:
Well Boot, ya just proved Gordons point, now didn’t ya? Gordons a racist for calling a crook a crook….

You are the gift that just keeps on giving.

All boot is “giving” is the truth.

Gordumb called Rangel a “BLACK crook” – as if his color should matter. It doesn’t. His possible CRIMES are what matter. People like gordump are so racist they may not be aware of HOW racist they are.

Why should Kristol be afraid or feel the need to “gain favor”? Is he running for office? He’s said foolish things before and sure as hell ain’t stopping now!

gordimblownoutsham’s “show” must be a racism-filled snoozefest. His lame(stream) excuses are as shallow as . . . well, as the REST of him probably is. (Remember; she’s not just Maxine Waters, she’s RACIST Maxine Waters – regardless of what the facts may be.)

Kristol wants Rangel to stay and fight the charges so the Republicants can run against HIM rather than engage their own Dem opponents back home in Nov. They can’t win on the issues so they’ll try to CREATE one with Rangel, knowing a trial would last well into the fall.

No matter the outcome of a Rangel trial, they can deflect attention from their own sorry, shameful record.

jrcmi said:
racist they are.

Why should Kristol be afraid or feel the need to “gain favor”?

Because that’s how politics works.

timzank said:
Kristol is right, don’t pick on 80 year old Charlie. He’s been instrumental in raising his constituency out poverty and joblessness, oh shit…wait a minute…nevermind. heh heh heh Seriously though, why pick on an old man in a $5,000 suit wearing a $20k rolex and $10k worth of gold accessories standing in the middle of Harlem next to his rent controlled apts and his taxpayer funded mercedes.. He’s been of such enormous help….. all he’s gonna get is a reprimand anyway, for god’s sake he’s black AND a democrat, that’s a free pass or a promotion in this “post racial” world of Obama.

Good points, the aggravating part is that rangel has been on the public pay roll for 40 some odd years. those high dollar items have all been bought with tax payer money. another crooked democrat, imagine that. i will be surpised if anything at all happens to him or waters for the exact reasons you stated.

jrcmi, you are just another loser lib hiding behind a phony name.
He defends “black” crooks because he won’t defend white crooks, there is the racism. It is all from the left.

It is “racist” Maxine because she is. Anything a black person does to white people is justified by Maxie.
You are a fool. Nobody pays attention to losers with phony names.

There is just one word for Kristol: R-I-N-O. He has no place at FOX News. Bona fide Republicans only.

MY BONNIE LIES OVER THE OCEAN
MY BONNIE LIES OBER THE SEA
FOX NEWS ALWAYS LIES
WHEREVER BONNIE MAY BE.

gordonbloyershow said:
You are a fool. Nobody pays attention to losers with phony names.

You did Marceaux, I mean Blower. So, what does that make you?

MY BONNIE LIES OVER THE OCEAN
MY BONNIE LIES OBER THE SEA
FOX NEWS ALWAYS LIES
WHEREVER BONNIE MAY BE.

Pablo said:
Because that’s how politics works.

Kristol does not need to really worry about public opinion unless he is running for office. He isn’t a politician, he’s a political commentator. There is no reason for him to court the black vote, as Gordon suggests.

timzank said:
Kristol is right, don’t pick on 80 year old Charlie. He’s been instrumental in raising his constituency out poverty and joblessness, oh shit…wait a minute…nevermind. heh heh heh.

Actually, he has largely helped his constituency. Conditions in upper-Manhattan have been improving gradually over the course of 30 years. A lot of the work has sprouted organically from funds that he has acquired for his district. The Harlem and Heights of today bear no resemblance to the Harlem and Heights of today, and it wasn’t all Giuliani’s doing.

Kristol’s got a point here. There is enough damage to be had here for the Democrats. In all honesty, Democrats have gone out of their way to distance themselves from Rangel. Republicans would do better spending their time targeting something else.

“They can’t win on the issues so they’ll try to CREATE one with Rangel, knowing a trial would last well into the fall.”

Do you realize how out of touch that sounds? Need to “CREATE”? Seems Charlie has created it all on his own. Sorry, the circle the wagons around the crook won’t work. The partisan garbage that occurs with this is disgusting. Dem or Rep, if we tolerate this type of behavior we get what we deserve.

Hogan, when did I say anything about Kristol being worried about the “black VOTE”? Can you read?
Kristol likes to be accepted by his friends in the leftest media. Making nice comments about old Charlie shows that he is not extreme like all those redneck republicans. I am not sure you will understand this comment either. Hey that was a nice photo of you running with that Mexican flag at the Mets game.

Wow!

The Black Caucus is now accusing the Democratic Party of being RACIST – This is Tooooo Goooood!

The Party that Created the RACE-CARD is now having it played on them!!!!!

Remember, a Vote for ANY Democrat is a Vote for Obama!

gordonbloyershow said:
Hogan, when did I say anything about Kristol being worried about the “black VOTE”? Can you read?
Kristol likes to be accepted by his friends in the leftest media. Making nice comments about old Charlie shows that he is not extreme like all those redneck republicans. I am not sure you will understand this comment either. Hey that was a nice photo of you running with that Mexican flag at the Mets game.

Well, you did suggest that he was trying to court the black favor. This is exactly what you said: ‘He will defend black crooks to gain favor with the black folks’.

I’m not making ‘nice’ comments about Rangel, they’re honest observations. Rangel has served his constituents well. His district has really improved while he has represented it.

I’m a Yankees fan, by the way. You’ll never catch me at a Mets game. And I hardly believe there are any ‘nice’ photos of me.

“Meanwhile, on This Week, George Will speculated that the reason Rangel is getting so much more attention than the equally embattled Mark Ensign is because Rangel is more important.”

Glynnis,

Did you mean John Ensign?

I guess you kind of proved Will’s point about that. Ensign is such a non-controversy his name can’t even be remembered.

Pablo said:
Because that’s how politics works.

Kristol isn’t a politician. He’s a partisan HACK, but he’s not a politician.

” jrcmi, you are just another loser lib hiding behind a phony name.
He defends “black” crooks because he won’t defend white crooks, there is the racism. It is all from the left.”

Your missive is, as usual, somewhat incoherent.

Who exactly is “he”? If you mean me, I didn’t “defend” Rangel. That is a convenient delusion of your own making. I said, “His possible CRIMES are what matter” – not his race. You didn’t quote me verbatim and address my statement directly because it was easier – and cheesier – to distort my words.

Nor did I “justify” racism. I don’t recall anyone else here – from the liberal/progressive point of view, anyway – doing so, either.

“It is “racist” Maxine because she is.”

THERE’S a profound insight. Sheesh.

” Anything a black person does to white people is justified by Maxie.”

Her white constituents may tend to differ with your simple-minded, racist conclusion.

“You are a fool. Nobody pays attention to losers with phony names.”

You are a hypocrite by ANY name – and a liar. You only use your own name in order to “flak” for your worthless show/snoozefest.

I’ll resist lowering myself to calling you a loser. In your case, it’s redundant.

Maybe you should be on Fakes News – though they already have enough frauds on-air.

You deserve your place among the oblivious, dishonest, sleaze-infused ranks of right-wing intellectual flyweights like $arah Palin and John “Boner.” Don’t bother to take a bow.

Penguin60 said:
“They can’t win on the issues so they’ll try to CREATE one with Rangel, knowing a trial would last well into the fall.”

Do you realize how out of touch that sounds? Need to “CREATE”? Seems Charlie has created it all on his own. Sorry, the circle the wagons around the crook won’t work. The partisan garbage that occurs with this is disgusting. Dem or Rep, if we tolerate this type of behavior we get what we deserve.

It is very much IN touch.

I suspect KRISTOL is “tolerating” Rangel’s alleged behavior for political purposes. He’s goading Rangel into fighting the charges, knowing this can only hurt the Dems in the fall. What other reason would he have for being solicitous toward a Dem? When has he EVER been solicitous toward a Dem?

I’m not “circling” anything. (Don’t start imaging things, a la gordimbulbsham.) If Rangel is guilty he should suffer the consequences. That goes for Waters, too.

Stephen H: Don’t waste effort trying to reason with a hypocrite – and a liar.

Rangel has done much good work over the years, which makes his downfall all the more unfortunate. However, we have a right to demand integrity from our public officials.

It’s ironic that some of the loudest – and most racist – voices declaiming Rangel’s conduct are THEMSELVES persons of dubious integrity (see above).

“Ensign is such a non-controversy his name can’t even be remembered.”

Adultery is “non-controversial”? Why did Mark Sauder quit the House? Why was Larry Craig “tapped” for an ignominious retirement? Why is David “Depends” Vitter in trouble this fall?

jrcmi said:
Adultery is “non-controversial”?

First, I never even mentioned adultery in my post, and I think you misunderstood what I meant. My point was not to say that John Ensign (or his adultery, or adultery in general) is so innocent/forgivable/whatever that it is a non issue. My point was that the typo was ironic considering the point being highlighted. Despite the fact that John Ensign is as “equally embattled” as Rangel, he’s not really on the radar. The fact that MacNicol MADE UP a first name for Ensign to point this out, is comical to me. THAT IS ALL.

John Ensign’s crime isn’t adultery anyway. The private marital bullshit of a politician is none of my business unless it happens to involve criminality on the job. Turns out, John Ensign’s private marital bullshit DOES involve criminality on the job so FUCK HIM.

Mark Sauder? Fucked a staffer
Larry Craig? Looks like he wanted to fuck a random dude while being republican (and being married to a woman, but let’s be honest Larry Craig would not have quit for “allegedly” almost cheating on his wife with a woman)
David Vitter? Prostitutes.

Forgive me if I’m wrong about the above, I wanted to try and characterize each situation to the best of my memory to demonstrate that those politicians from places I don’t live made enough of a national splash that I know their names and their crimes.

But a political reporter and every single regular commenter on this political site failed to catch the typo, demonstrating Will’s point about nobody giving a shit about Ensign. The fact that you immediately assumed I was referring to his adultery and not his $100,000+ hush money, and illegally getting jobs for the husband and son of his mistress SUGGESTS that maybe you yourself have been a bit under exposed to this story. Maybe not, don’t take it personally and attack me for unfounded accusations, it’s just suggestive.

For the record, I’m from Nevada, I’ve met John Ensign like 4 or 5 times (first time when I was in the 4th grade and he gave me a POG with his name on it, remember those!), have campaigned against John Ensign’s shitty politics since before I could legally vote, and can’t wait for Nevada to finally get a useful Senator when he inevitably leaves office one way or the other.

Actually Kristol’s suggestion that the Republicans back off Rangel is a decent gambit that could well pay hefty dividends if worked correctly. Now that Waters’ honesty is being questioned only serves to make the game more tantilizing. As we watch the Democrats’ response and handling of these two “issues,” the people will know just how honest they are at running the government. The more honest of the Democratic voters may well jump ship–certainly many independents will. Of course, some Democrats will continue to vote for their party politicians, but they will hold their nose while doing so.

(HINT: Keep your eyes on Boxer and Waxman over the next few months; it seems they are approaching the “bus stop.”)

“Those that live by the sword, die by the sword!” sound familiar. I learn so much from this site. I was not aware that Maxine Waters let those animals (who beat & urinated on that poor truck driver at the Watts riot) go free. It only goes to show that, unfortunately, people of color stick together, or was it just for votes? That unfortunate man was so terrified after that episode that, I do believe, he did not testify against them..he died later,,he was never the same..I mean, bricks..thrown repeatedly by such an angry mob..how cruel. As far as Charles Rangel, he is so cocky, winking at reporters like he just doesn’t give a d…, what nerve. He helped so many people, sure he did, like the mafia kings helped the poor buddies in their neighborhoods. How did this man get away with this so long? I’ll bet he gets off with a handshake & of course, Ms. Arrogant Maxine with her constant smirk will probably get off also. I’m not saying Republicans are any better, bad apples are bad apples but these people are running our government. How about us? We are the poor jerks that ALLOW this to go on. So many young people are not into politics & couldn’t care less, as they go about their every day activities..like trying to pay their mortgages while these crooked politicians are scheming at how to get the hard working families to pay up for the worthless in our society that keep making babies so that they can get into the system. As I recall, many years ago, if a woman had children out of wedlock & was on welfare, an agent would come to the house to check up & many times there would be a man around..end of checks!! Now that the country is so worried about the POOR, all hell is breaking loose, morals are out the window & people are even getting divorced just so they can get money from the Kitty. This has to stop, not only do we have problems with our own people bilking the system..now we have to control the illegals who are sooo anxious to get a free ride to disneyworld..the land of the free. I feel so sorry for Sheriff Arrapaio in Arizona, he is such a good man & sooner or later they will, either kill him, or take away his power, so really, what is congress doing for our people oh, I forgot, we have some new people in the Supreme Court, that should do the job. Yeah, I know they will be fair??? You don’t close the hen house after the fox got in..& that is where we are right now..all over the country..there is no money for an american born individual but there’s plenty of pity for the poor, unfortunate immigrants who want a piece of the pie..or is it the whole pie..Hmm. sounds familiar. God help us do the right thing in the fall…& God Bless America! Helen Nordo