Call , send a telegram , hop in the sedan and drive to the story , get the “scoop” , get one of those computer machines , but Bob , you have to be objective , and you are not .

It is time for Bob Schieffer to retire.

Or , you could call Dan Rather or Andy Rooney or Katie and get the straight info .

If it was not for the “new” media we would not know about Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Van Jones, New Black Panthers, Obama girl, ACORN and the truth about Obama’s socialist health care plan.

Steve-

“Which ‘cable folk’ is he talking about that demanded the woman’s ouster? Because the only person who did was Bill O’Reilly, and even that didn’t air until after she already resigned”

I guess you missed Monday night’s Hannity…

“New Media is busy covering, fair and comprehensive, the stories many others in America are curious about

No.. Schieffer… it’s you, Sir, who are part of the ‘New Media’. ..Because the Old Media …you remember.. the one that existed before Walter’s book became the journalistic bible? ..Well, THAT was the Old Media and the one where the story was simply comprised of the facts and that was all. The New Media is the one that exists now and that you have helped perpetuate with your selective reporting and aid to those in the New Media who would attempt to shape elections by the ommision of facts, lack of vetting candidates, and outright distortion of said facts for progressive political gain.

So, get your facts straight on what group of the media to which you belong. Just because you say you are Old Media doesn’t make it so. It’s simply another example of your clear distortion of the ‘facts’. Very New Media.

sorry-

“New Media is busy covering, fair and comprehensive, the stories many others in America are curious about”

You mean like the Jersey Articles that pop up on this site?

Just lost a whole lot of respect for you buddy.

Second time in two weeks Schieffer comes off as ignorant. Seriously, doesn’t he have any staff? By “Old Media”, is he talking smoke signals and clicky sounds? He’s become like the kooky old uncle that just says crazy things and no one is taking him seriously anymore.

“Some of the cable folk picked up the story, and demanded the woman’s ouster.”

Howard Dean and Bob Schieffer obviously get their talking from the same source.

She was not fired by the blogger, new or old media, or cable news. In own words “the white house wants her out”. Talk about kill the messenger. Sounds like Journolists are spinning another one.

WideAwakeNow said:
Well, THAT was the Old Media and the one where the story was simply comprised of the facts and that was all.

Actually, it’s never really been like that. For awhile, it was better disguised, say from about 1950 or so to about 1975 or 80. In the old days, though, when print media was _the_ distribution method of news, most large cities had two (or more) newspapers, one liberal, and one conservative. Some of the names even represented this, and are still in use today, such as The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, or The Waterbury Republican-American.

lanquihue said:
Second time in two weeks Schieffer comes off as ignorant. Seriously, doesn’t he have any staff? By “Old Media”, is he talking smoke signals and clicky sounds? He’s become like the kooky old uncle that just says crazy things and no one is taking him seriously anymore.

You’d think he has a producer that checks facts for him, no? Jesus, talk about clueless….

Given the story, it’s quite ironic that Steve has edited out the portion of the video where Schieffer admonishes the “whippersnapper punks” with their “newfangled gadgets” to “get off his lawn.”

“I am Old Media with a capital O. Proud of it, actually,” said Schieffer. “And yes, we do operate differently than some in the New Media.

Yes you do, Bob. For example, journalists in Old Media outlets like Harpers, the Nation, the Economist, and the Wash Post conspired to help Obama win election in 2008. The only difference between you and “New Media” Bob is that you still try, however feebly, to conceal your bias.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/26/journolist-debates-making-its-coordination-with-obama-explicit/

I miss the good old days when Louisville had the Courier and the Journal, now we just have one. As the circulation keeps dropping, they think they can solve their problems by becoming even more liberal (following the Newsweek example).

As you read the assessment by this 73-year-old man on the “new media” remember that this is the same guy who didn’t ask Eric Holder about the Black Panther story because he (as he admitted himself) he “didn’t know about it.” Maybe Bob Schieffer can tell us which web sites he checks out each day. Or, even better, he can go on Larry King’s show and swap stories with the host about their favorite political blogs.

The “Old Media’ has no shortage of “Old Fools” like “Old Bob”!
And the most amusing things about all of it, are the lame attempts at pretending they have no “Liberal Bias”!
I don’t want Schieffer to retire! Old farts like him are the gifts that keeps on giving. The MSM have their heads so far up Obama’s ass they can tell you most mornings what he had for breakfast!!

New subject! Were I Chris Wallace, I would send a bill for a new pair of shoes to Howard Dean’s next of kin.
He will never get the shit that used to be Howard off of them after that ass stoping!!

lanquihue said:
Actually, it’s never really been like that. For awhile, it was better disguised, say from about 1950 or so to about 1975 or 80. In the old days, though, when print media was _the_ distribution method of news, most large cities had two (or more) newspapers, one liberal, and one conservative. Some of the names even represented this, and are still in use today, such as The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, or The Waterbury Republican-American.

point well taken.. but go back even further.. (maybe to pony express:) …..there was a day ..before the progressive movement was so advanced in this country. ….the media of the time didn’t purposely avoid putting stories out there simply to protect a political agenda. journolist shows us how corrupt the media has become. i think to some degree there has always been corruption but not to the degree that it is today by any stretch.

ASS STOMPING!! ASS STOMPING of MR. DEAN THE SCREAM!

Old media—— Bob Schieffer, Sam Donaldson, Dan Rather, and your three basic channels…

The New Media——-Cable TV news, The Internet and Talk radio.

Which would you say would give you better and more accurate info? Hmmmm?

You folks need to back off.
Why, just last week Mr.Schieffer and Fred Flintstone were discussing this very matter at the stone quarry….well…until Mr. Slate broke it all up….

‘Timelines’?? We don’t need no stinkin’ timelines!! That would require logic and logic is intolerable to these idiots. It’s so funny to watch them screaming about ‘getting it right’ as they simultaneously get it all wrong! Howard Dean was so full of distortion it almost made his face look symetrical. Good grief these people are a joke!

And Bob Shieffer….bless his heart. Even after the beating he took over his ignorance of the DOJ whistle-blower he still thinks the J. Christian Adams story broke a ‘couple of weeks ago”. WOW. Either he was trying to downplay his tardiness (lying) or he is stoopid. Neither is acceptable. And then he has the nerve to lecture ‘the new media’ about ‘fact-checking’. LOL!! Seriously….LMAO!

Adams posted his story on JUNE 28th on Pajamas Media. Megyn Kelly had him on her show June 30th. “Fact-checker’ Bob’s ‘timeline’ was off by half. But that’s par for the course in the legacy media. Half-truths and half-assed reporting leading to half-baked lies being broadcast as fact.

I didn’t see a single mention on Sunday of The Center for American Progress’ blatantly fraudulent bogus video of staged ‘proof’ of racism at Tea Parties. But I heard mucho repetition of the false claim of hurling of the ‘N’ word at the Obozocare Tea Party at the Capitol.

I guess it depends on what your definition of the word ‘fact’ is…

btw…where was the newly sainted Mrs. Sherrod this weekend anyway? Could it be she wasn’t the ‘new MLK/Mandela’ they were hoping for? Perhaps they were wary of her not-so-color-blind-after-all peacock feathers that she is all too willing to display.

I agree with JimBob…. that ‘scolding’ from Old Bob was priceless! ‘If you would just make a call every once in a while…”. LMAO!! You can’t make this stuff up!!

Keep up the good work Bob.

Steve, we really do have your point. Ad nauseum. FOX did not get Ms. Sherrod fired. O’Reilly’s bloodthirst was preemptively satiated. I notice “cable folk” was used. “Folk” is an ill-defined word. In Texas, we often use “folk” to single out scandalous behavior, without singling out the scoundrel involved. After all, you’re likely married to the scoundrel’s sister or serve on the Vestry with the scoundrel. Let’s all remember that O’Hannity had the deplorable and disgusting Breitbart on his program, lavishing praise upon him. That counts for nothing in your book?

I notice today that the RNC has as a featured speaker at an upcoming event the deplorable and disgusting Breitbart. I suppose that counts for nothing, either?

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

CBS is still on the air? Who knew?

“WE LIE ABOUT THINGS…EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.”

Royal, please. Nobody cares about the size of your dick.

newzmaker said:
CBS is still on the air? Who knew?

for CBS News, I suppose only ten times the number of people who watch FOX News’ highest rated program!

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

Azarkhan: Why must we have so much foul and filthy language here?

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

King, according to you Fox has no viewers, so how did they influence anyone? And guess what? Even if Fox gets every story wrong from now on, that doesn’t prove your contention that black racism doesn’t exist. It does. You denying its existence doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

So Schieffer’s rationale is that when “New Media” fails to research a story it proves they are corrupt, but when “Old Media” punts a story it is for noble reasons and they do it for our own good.

Bootleghaircut says:
July 26, 2010 at 10:27 am

I guess you missed Monday night’s Hannity…

Hannity airs AFTER O’Reilly… and he announced she had resigned on the show!

WideAwakeNow says:
July 26, 2010 at 11:22 am

…the media of the time didn’t purposely avoid putting stories out there simply to protect a political agenda.

Actually… that’s not true. It’s a common misconception and wistfulness about the “good old days.” However, if you read about the early history of American journalism (I’d recommend Eric Burn’s book, “Infamous Scribblers”), they were just as partisan and political (if not worse) than they are today. It’s an interesting area of study.

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 11:46 am

Hey King… did you ever correct yourself from the other night?

The Real Royal King says:
July 25, 2010 at 8:25 pm

I fail to see why we are still talking about FOX’s role in the firing. No serious person has ever claimed that FOX had that role.

Funny that we’re talking about Media honesty, and even after Howard Dean claimed just that, and now Bob Schieffer gets it wrong… you haven’t corrected yourself. Actually, you went on to attack Steve!

“Shocking” tales of dishonesty, coming from the King.

writer, didn’t you get the memo? There is no such thing as a black racist, which makes the knee-jerk reaction to Breitbart’s video even more hilarious! I just wish someone had let me know what the real definition of ‘equality’ was years ago, before I fell for Dr. Kings rhetoric…. hook, line and sinker.

Here I have been thinking all these years that we should judge each other on ‘the content of our character”….

Silly me.

To all those who insist in burying your head where the sun don’t shine about ACORN…. “If you would just make a call once in a while…..” LMAO!!

http://emergingcorruption.com/?p=100

ImNotBlue said:
“Shocking” tales of dishonesty, coming from the King.

He lies and lies and lies and lies. Pay him no mind.

Steve Krakauer writes:

“This, from the anchor who admits he would have asked Holder about the Black Panther case if he knew about it, but he was on vacation (sounds nice, by the way!), and, you know, it really didn’t get a lot of publicity.

If the news media isn’t constantly and disproportionately attacking and disparaging Blacks, Latinos, Women’s groups or any other group that doesn’t usually support the GOP, you question their competance?
Maybe you could point me to links of your articles on vote caging, voter roll purging and minority vote disenfrachisement from 2000-2008 so I can compare and contrast your conclusions.

You HAVE written articles on those subjects, right Steve?

–Cobra

The White House switchboard — able to conjure up Santa Claus at a moment’s notice for a young Caroline Kennedy — is famous for its ability to track down anyone, anywhere, anytime…But last week, both the White House and the secretary of agriculture, Tom Vilsack, were unable to muster that switchboard magic to reach Shirley Sherrod, the Department of Agriculture official who was forced to resign based on an edited video clip that made it look as if she had discriminated against a white farmer…

Other historians and political strategists said they found it hard to believe that though the Agriculture Department managed to call Ms. Sherrod (three times, she says) on Monday to ask her to tender her resignation via BlackBerry, the White House could not reach her until Thursday….

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/us/politics/26switchboard.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

RRK has posted an incredible amout of lies this weekend. He keeps pushing his delusional myth about Fox being hurt by the Sherrod story. He keeps repeating the lie that Fox was responsible for Sherrod being fired. The guy has discredited himself all weekend and he still has the nerve to continue posting. LOL.

ImNotBlue said:
The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 11:46 am
Hey King… did you ever correct yourself from the other night?
The Real Royal King says:
July 25, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I fail to see why we are still talking about FOX’s role in the firing. No serious person has ever claimed that FOX had that role.
Funny that we’re talking about Media honesty, and even after Howard Dean claimed just that, and now Bob Schieffer gets it wrong… you haven’t corrected yourself. Actually, you went on to attack Steve!
“Shocking” tales of dishonesty, coming from the King.

Pretty feeble. Is Koldys on holiday? No guidance?
THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

He is CBS’ version of Larry King.

Cobra says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:35 pm

If the news media isn’t constantly and disproportionately attacking and disparaging Blacks, Latinos, Women’s groups or any other group that doesn’t usually support the GOP, you question their competance?

Uuuuhhh… what?

Cobra said:
If the news media isn’t constantly and disproportionately attacking and disparaging Blacks, Latinos, Women’s groups

They do that quite well themselves.

gordonbloyershow said:
RRK has posted an incredible amout of lies this weekend. He keeps pushing his delusional myth about Fox being hurt by the Sherrod story. He keeps repeating the lie that Fox was responsible for Sherrod being fired. The guy has discredited himself all weekend and he still has the nerve to continue posting. LOL.

Hi, Marceaux, I mean Blower. Wow, that really stings. I set forth the evidence of Hume’s lies, O’Hannity’s lies, Kelly’s repeated lies, and you attack me, the messenger?

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

“Bill O’Reilly, and even that didn’t air until after she already resigned.”

It was taped at 5:00 PM

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:43 pm

Pretty feeble. Is Koldys on holiday? No guidance?

Aw… that’s cute! You can’t defend why you’re a hypocrite… and you refuse to correct your previous lie! Instead, you’ll “attack” me, attack J$ (sadly, your obsession is still only half as strong as John T’s… but equally irrelevant and pathetic), and pretend that you never lied in the first place.

Awww… poor fella’! Get’s caught lying, while trying to accuse someone else of lying. What’s even funnier is you tried to show a “pattern” of lies in another post… looks like I’ve found my own pattern! Liar.

notsofast said:
He is CBS’ version of Larry King.

Please. Don’t even suggest another version of Larry King. It makes me thirst for strong drink.

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

Reconcile these two posts for me, King.

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:43 pm

Pretty feeble. Is Koldys on holiday? No guidance?

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:46 pm

Wow, that really stings. I set forth the evidence of Hume’s lies, O’Hannity’s lies, Kelly’s repeated lies, and you attack me, the messenger?

I wonder what’s worse. The fact that you’re an overt liar… or the fact that you don’t think anyone will notice the hypocrisy 3 minutes apart.

betweentwoevils says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:47 pm

It was taped at 5:00 PM

Relevance? It didn’t AIR until about 8:50pm (that segment). Are you suggesting that the White House and the NAACP knew what O’Reilly had taped at 5pm?

You can’t react to something that hasn’t aired yet, can you?

Dan Rather: “Bob…Bob…c’mere. Sit down next to me. Here in the Media Hack Hall of Shame they’ve been bringing in chairs galore for all the ‘Old Media’ fossils like you and me. One time has come, dear Boy. Our ability to force ideology on people is gone. Shall we play shuffleboard?”

Black panthers ? Arizona law details ? Huh ?…But I’ll bet Bob knows about Snooki , since she was in the NYT last weekend .

ImNotBlue said:
The Real Royal King says:July 26, 2010 at 12:43 pm Pretty feeble. Is Koldys on holiday? No guidance? Aw… that’s cute! You can’t defend why you’re a hypocrite… and you refuse to correct your previous lie! Instead, you’ll “attack” me, attack J$ (sadly, your obsession is still only half as strong as John T’s… but equally irrelevant and pathetic), and pretend that you never lied in the first place. Awww… poor fella’! Get’s caught lying, while trying to accuse someone else of lying. What’s even funnier is you tried to show a “pattern” of lies in another post… looks like I’ve found my own pattern! Liar.

Seems to me Steve made a huge logical leap I’m not prepared to make, due to an old Rugby injury, regarding Schieffer, as I have previously noted (the more logical conclusion being that O’Hannity’s manfest with the despicable and deplorable Breitbart was the subject), and Dean seemed to focus on racism inherent at the the FOX Network.

You really don’t have anything, do you? FOX’s lapse into the object of ridicule and denigration has hit you very hard. Well, I shouldn’t waste too much time in a depressed state. Murdoch and Ailes aren’t worth it.

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:43 pm

Pretty feeble. Is Koldys on holiday? No guidance?

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:46 pm

Wow, that really stings. I set forth the evidence of Hume’s lies, O’Hannity’s lies, Kelly’s repeated lies, and you attack me, the messenger?

There doesn’t seem to be a conflict. Maybe, I am mistaken. Maybe, Koldys is not on holday. Maybe he’s as logically liplockes as you. I know this glaring lack of credibility by FOX is a staggering blow to both of you.

I am worried about Cecelia. I always liked her. Is she faring better?

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:43 pm

Pretty feeble. Is Koldys on holiday? No guidance?

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:46 pm

Wow, that really stings. I set forth the evidence of Hume’s lies, O’Hannity’s lies, Kelly’s repeated lies, and you attack me, the messenger?

There doesn’t seem to be a conflict. Maybe, I am mistaken. Maybe, Koldys is not on holday. Maybe he’s as logically liplockes as you. I know this glaring lack of credibility by FOX is a staggering blow to both of you.

I am worried about Cecelia. I always liked her. Is she faring better?

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

(Royal, put on your Depends before reading)

Flemington, NJ, July 14, 2010 – A new national study among 300 self-reported Democrats, Republicans and Independents revealed that after viewing a new ad featuring Sarah Palin and produced by SarahPAC, viewers were more likely to vote for Palin if she ran for president in 2012.

http://mediacurves.com/Politics/SarahPalinSurvey/Index.cfm

betweentwoevils said:
“Bill O’Reilly, and even that didn’t air until after she already resigned.”

It was taped at 5:00 PM

Sherrod said she resigned in the afternoon, so what does O”Reilly’s taping time matter?

Are you now suggesting that O”Reilly’s taping of his show caused the admin. to fire her?

Oh, the omnipotence of FOX!

Azarkhan said:
(Royal, put on your Depends before reading) Flemington, NJ, July 14, 2010 – A new national study among 300 self-reported Democrats, Republicans and Independents revealed that after viewing a new ad featuring Sarah Palin and produced by SarahPAC, viewers were more likely to vote for Palin if she ran for president in 2012. http://mediacurves.com/Politics/SarahPalinSurvey/Index.cfm

Wow, that’s truly worrisome.

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

notsofast said:
Sherrod said she resigned in the afternoon, so what does O”Reilly’s taping time matter? Are you now suggesting that O”Reilly’s taping of his show caused the admin. to fire her? Oh, the omnipotence of FOX!

I suppose it might be deemed to show mens rea, but it is also irrelevant.

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

The Real Royal King said:
You really don’t have anything, do you? FOX’s lapse into the object of ridicule and denigration has hit you very hard.

Wait, you think your opinion actually matters, don’t you? Ha!

The media is doing an amazing job of avoiding the central issue of the story last week, that being the NAACP acting on Sherrod before any reporting, and the White House’s involvement. If they go out and kick up dust about Fox being racist they don’t have to ask the WH how they lied about their involvement and won’t have to pressure Ben Jealous into explaining his foolish actions. No, blasting Fox’s coverage is a better narrative (even though CNN did more pieces on the story) and it allows their allies room to squirm free.

notsofast said:
Are you now suggesting that O”Reilly’s taping of his show caused the admin. to fire her?

I think we all know that it was Glenn Beck’s intent to do his show that caused the administration to fire her.

MartiniShark said:
The media is doing an amazing job of avoiding the central issue of the story last week, that being the NAACP acting on Sherrod before any reporting, and the White House’s involvement. If they go out and kick up dust about Fox being racist they don’t have to ask the WH how they lied about their involvement and won’t have to pressure Ben Jealous into explaining his foolish actions. No, blasting Fox’s coverage is a better narrative (even though CNN did more pieces on the story) and it allows their allies room to squirm free.

Actually, all of these items have been pretty well covered. Maddow hit the NAACP hard, and Olbermann hit President Obama hard. I think all you’re trying to do is to cover up some of the shoddiest journalism in recent times.

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

The Real Royal King said:
I suppose it might be deemed to show mens rea, but it is also irrelevant.

I shows that just the mention of FOX sends the WH into a panic- and them they get blindsided by their own libs at the NYTs.

I bet the WH now understands how McChrystal felt.

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:53 pm The Real Royal King

Seems to me Steve made a huge logical leap I’m not prepared to make,

Yes, Steve used logic to show that Schieffer wasn’t telling the truth… a “logical leap” you’re not willing to make when it favors FNC. We all get it.

…due to an old Rugby injury, regarding Schieffer,

Huh?

…as I have previously noted (the more logical conclusion being that O’Hannity’s manfest with the despicable and deplorable Breitbart was the subject), and Dean seemed to focus on racism inherent at the the FOX Network.

You can’t be serious. You’re going to claim that Dean didn’t actually accuse FNC of causing Ms. Sherrod to get fired? Really?

Now, of course, the transcript doesn’t reflect that… and Dean spends a good deal of time talking about the Sherrod deal, and stumbling over the “incontinent” facts of the matter (which he apparently didn’t know before the interview).

It’s fun to watch you spin, King… but it doesn’t get you anywhere closes to honesty.

You really don’t have anything, do you? FOX’s lapse into the object of ridicule and denigration has hit you very hard. Well, I shouldn’t waste too much time in a depressed state. Murdoch and Ailes aren’t worth it.

I like how giddy you are over this… yet “conveniently” ignore CNN and MSNBC playing the very same clip, in virtually the same way. Sure, this is further evidence of your slanted and hypocritical view… but again, that’s nothing new. In your world, FNC is the route and cause of all problems… everything else doesn’t exist. That’s why logic fails to permeate the surface… and why you can lie and hate without remorse or shame.

The Real Royal King says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:58 pm

There doesn’t seem to be a conflict. Maybe, I am mistaken.

Well, there is something you seem to be mistaken about… and that is, that my questions are for your benefit. That’s not the case. 9 times out of 10, I can pretty accurately predict how spiteful and hateful you’ll respond. However, it’s for everyone else that the questions expose you to be a fool.

Clearly, you’re willing to attack the messenger, but at the same time pretend like that’s a bad thing and criticize someone else for the same. You’d be blind not to see that as hypocrisy… or so self absorbed that your incapable of intellectual honesty. You may see yourself as a shining beacon of everything good… but to the rest of us, you’re just another dim bulb flickering in the corner.

Maybe, Koldys is not on holday. Maybe he’s as logically liplockes as you. I know this glaring lack of credibility by FOX is a staggering blow to both of you.

I am worried about Cecelia. I always liked her. Is she faring better?

Blah blah blah, attack the messager, more hypocrisy, fail to answer the question, prove yourself a fool, blah blah blah. Same old, same old.

But honestly, tell me… why are you so obsessed with that place? Why do you know all the posters? Why do you (apparently) spend so much time reading everything he posts? It’s kinda spooky.

ImNotBlue said:
ImNotBlue says:
July 26, 2010 at 1:15 pm 

He is a troll, plain and simple. All he does is change the topic. He intentionally sets out to derail discussions on every thread. He makes personal attacks, goes after J$ and makes outrageous statements with the sole purpose of making it all about him, and derailing the convo. He gets off on it.

The Real Royal King said:
Actually, all of these items have been pretty well covered. Maddow hit the NAACP hard, and Olbermann hit President Obama hard. I think all you’re trying to do is to cover up some of the shoddiest journalism in recent times. THE FOX NETWORK: WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

So Maddow makes one mention, Olbermann makes the other, and this balances out the rest of the blanket coverage of “racism by Fox and Brietbart”? “All these items” have not been covered, as you want to believe. Who has challenged the WH on their lies of involvement? Who has challenged Ben Jealous on his claim of being “snookered”, when he had access to Sherrod’s full speech from the onset? Who has balanced the claims of racism on the right with the racist comments by the NAACP the past few weeks? They have been allowed to give excuses so the press can excuse them and focus the blame on Fox/Beck/Brietbart, on “new Media” ethics, and why all these mean people pick on the administration.

MartiniShark said:
Who has challenged Ben Jealous on his claim of being “snookered”, when he had access to Sherrod’s full speech from the onset?

Maddow.

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

The King has argued, in almost the same breath, that Fox News is powerful enough to sway government decisions, and that virtually no one watches Fox. He’s argued that all white people are rich corporate CEOs, and poor trash living in trailers. And he never sees any contradictions or hypocrisy in the things he says. Truly a diseased, disturbed mind.

sarainitaly said:
He is a troll, plain and simple. All he does is change the topic. He intentionally sets out to derail discussions on every thread. He makes personal attacks, goes after J$ and makes outrageous statements with the sole purpose of making it all about him, and derailing the convo. He gets off on it.

And, I thought Dr. Joyce Brothers was retired. Who knew she moved to Spain and married a podiatrist?

THE FOX NETWORK:

WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

Steve – I realize that you own this part of the story and I don’t blame you for wanting to link back to your original or the follow-up. I also understand and wouldn’t blame you, if you’re angling to add “Fox News Contributer” to your byline because Mediaite would be served by having an insider with FNC, it’s probably difficult to live in New York on a blogger’s salary and you’re approaching the point in your career, where you have to shoot to become Colby, Dan or to establish more of a presence on television.

IOW: I don’t blame you and I don’t know for sure, if I would do anything different, but…

It seems that it’s a little unfair to hit Schieffer for the one tiny part of his commentary which involves Fox News. He spends more time taking a swipe at Brietbart and carries it through all the way to the end; His point about calling and checking with a subject is sort of a reiteration from his appearance on Howie’s show, where he rightfully or wrongly thought Megyn’s allegations toward him were unfair and in the whole factual scheme of things, what he said in this commentary isn’t exactly untrue.

Though Schieffer may be guilty of making a slight overstatement, O’Reilly did call for Sherrod’s ouster and he did it without talking to her or waiting for her side. Bob didn’t say that Bill caused her firing, he just said that like Breitbart, he didn’t interview the source and then before going back to BigGovernment, Schieffer hits the administration for preemptively over-reacting.

Of course, you might also be able to count O’Reilly for being an “old media figure masquerading as new media”, but apparently that swipe was so small and subtle, it didn’t make it into the post.

So Maddow’s lone lecture equates the weeklong insistance that Brietbart was a lying racist? And who has Challenged the WH claim of uninvolvement?

Fox was blamed at the onset, and when the truth came out that they did not touch it until after the fact there was constant backpeddling and reframing of the issue, but no one went after the sources of the activity. It was, “Well Beck shifted his stance, and Fox reported it with racial commentary, not to mention the brilliant, Brietbart tricked us! Nobody has held the NAACP and Jealous responsible, and no one dares ask the WH how they can claim uninvolvement.

writer said:
And he never sees any contradictions or hypocrisy in the things he says.

The official diagnosed illness is called ‘Liberalism Hypocritiasis.”

It allows lib to hold two completely disconsonant ideas at once without knowing the hypocrisy it brings.

Also know as “doublethink.”

^ Ugh… “contributer” / “contributor”… spell-check and proofreading didn’t catch the mistake.

Magister said:
^ Ugh… “contributer” / “contributor”… spell-check and proofreading didn’t catch the mistake.

I don’t think we want to turn this site into one with “spelling” hall monitors.

As long as the thought can be understood, that’s fine.

Lost in all this hoopla is the fact that Andrew Breitbart’s pur\pose in holding the video from April to July, was to counter the NAACP’s charge that the Tea Party was a racist organization. What all the commentators (including Bill O’Reilly) missed is that the NAACP, this year, was cheering the racist comments. Breitbart had no intention of hurting Miss Sherrod, but merely pointing out the hypocricy of the NAACP who refused to disavow the Black Panther’s racist poll activities.

If he had issued the video in April, its intent would have been to damage Miss Sherrod, so obviously, that was not his intent.

@Bot: Breitbart is on record as saying that he had been offered the video in April and he asked for the DVD, but the source didn’t mail it and when the NAACP thing happened, he went back through his email and recontacted the source.

He also says that in April, he thought it was somewhat newsworthy but when the disk did not arrive, he failed to follow-up until he decided to take a jab at the NAACP.

And despite the fact that most observers wouldn’t characterize the Georgia audience as having endorsed racism, if Breitbart thought that he could release a video, claim that it shows a federal official saying they’ve used racial considerations to distribute resources and not expect that to become the story, then Andrew has lost sight of the bigger picture and his nose for news should be questioned.

What nobody is talking about is why the NAACP was so quick to condemn her comments. Breitbart had warned them that he was going to post proof of their hypocrisy. Seems to me that they were painfully aware that there were fertile grounds for harvesting evidence of racism within the ranks of the NAACP….hence the knee-jerk reaction.

They assumed that Breitbart was exposing about Sherrod…but actually he was exposing the crowds reaction to what she said….they were loving that story when they thought she was ‘stickin’ it to da man’!

Mission accomplished by Breitbart…it was just a bonus that the NAACP acted so ‘stupidly’. Speaking of ‘acting stupidly’…I sure hope the Obozo administration is telling the truth about their role.

I would hate to find out later that they lied. (Y)

Folks- we might want to rethink our opinion of Sherrod. many of us have said she is indeed a racist based on her comments.

“You know, I haven’t seen such a mean-spirited people as I’ve seen lately over this issue of health care. Some of the racism we thought was buried. Didn’t it surface? Now, we endured eight years of the Bush’s and we didn’t do the stuff these Republicans are doing because you have a black President.”

She also accused Fox News of racism, telling Strupp that “they are after a bigger thing, they would love to take us back to… where black people were looking down, not looking white folks in the face, not being able to compete for a job out there and not be a whole person.”

“Breitbart wants to take us back to the days of slavery.”

But usually such racist statements do not occur in a vacuum. They usually don’t come out of nowhere.

So I think we should at least listen to see if her husband also speaks of things from a racial prism before we conclude she is a racist.

http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/video-shirley-sherrods-husband-says-we-must-stop-the-white-man-and-his-uncle-toms-from-stealing-our-elections/

Oops! She is!

Magister says:
July 26, 2010 at 1:45 pm

It seems that it’s a little unfair to hit Schieffer for the one tiny part of his commentary which involves Fox News.

But if his comment was wrong… why would it be “unfair” to correct it?

Here is an UNEDITED tape of a black racist named Sherrod. We report you decide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m22eXuYNbkY

@ImNotBlue: The small portion of the commentary may be misleading, but it’s not factually inaccurate in that O’Reilly did call for her ouster and he apparently did not call or interview the woman prior to the segment. He didn’t say that O’Reilly’s call led to her firing and in fact, he takes a longer swipe at the administration for acting preemptively.

Perhaps the thing about the phone call was also inclusive of his feelings toward Megyn for suggesting that Bob didn’t care about the Black Panther story, or that he had accepted guidelines without asking him for comment. It may have been a backdoor way for him to have vent about the previous story.

I don’t know and I’ll agree that those few syllables may be somewhat misleading, but the larger focus was on “new media” (which I don’t know that cable news is really “new”) and it seems to be equally as much of an overstatement to say that Schieffer was wrong.

But again, the TVEyes analysis is Steve’s story and he is entitled to link.

Johnny Dollar has a great piece demonstrating the scope and depth of flat out lying about FOX’s imaginary role in forcing Sherrod to be fired here:

http://johnnydollar.us/files/100725fhwir.php#disqus_thread

As I said there:

“Seeing it all laid out in Johnny’s inimitable style in one place does shine a light on just how coordinated the attacks are, doesn’t it!

I just can’t believe that so many people made the same mistake with the same lack of evidence accidentally! On this, color me conspiracy. “

Does anyone have a Tums?

Grammie, that’s the biggest piece of Phox Phan Klub drivel I’ve seen in a long time. There’s nothing in that piece that refutes or advances a point. Pure nervous energy made manifest. Frustration finding a home.

THE FOX NETWORK:
WE LIE ABOUT THINGS GREAT,
EVEN, ABOUT THINGS SMALL.
WE NEVER SHOOT STRAIGHT,
NEVER TELL THE TRUTH AT ALL.

O’Reilly likes to believe his commentary is responsible for making changes. That is why he called for Sherrod to be fired. He wanted to be first so he could claim he caused it. I would not be surprised if he did not know at the time of his taping of his show that she had already been fired.

O’Reilly does make left-wing judges run for the hills and that is good. He likes to think he knows how to run political campaigns, he doesn’t know shit. Morris, Rove and Gingrich always try to correct him and just talks over them claiming he is right.

People like to claim Limbaugh is pompus but he is not, O’Reilly is.

BOB SCHIEFFER’S MORPHING INTO LARRY KING RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES!!!!

gordonbloyershow said:
O’Reilly does make left-wing judges run for the hills and that is good. He likes to think he knows how to run political campaigns, he doesn’t know shit. Morris, Rove and Gingrich always try to correct him and just talks over them claiming he is right.

People like to claim Limbaugh is pompus but he is not, O’Reilly is.

That’s why I can’t watch O’Reilly. The guy will have on some top notch smart people, they’ll get half a sentence out before O’Reilly interrupts them and filibusters the segment. Hume is a good example, he can outwit O’Reilly in his sleep, yet O’Reilly will run about 3:1 versus Hume, even though Hume’s there presumably to answer questions.

“People like to claim Limbaugh is pompus but he is not, O’Reilly is.”

O’Reilly is 100 times the man Limbaugh is-I believe Bill has a graduatre degree
from Harvard in Politcal science while limbaugh is an uneducated hick from
Podunk Missouri.

Hence why O’Reilly has a top rate cable show and Limbaugh is on the radio
for octgenarian shut ins who haven’t yet joined the rest of the world in 21rst century.

O’Reilly makes people thnk by CHALLENGING them. Guys like Limbaugh can’t survive
out of their echo chamber which is everytime they try to put his dumb ass on tv the show tanks.

After all he single handedly tank the 1/2 comedy show on fox-I guess having twenty million
listeners does not translate AT ALL into TV ratings.

I mean who wants to watch a fat white guy sit in a chair and smoke a cigar while raving?

Archie Bunker did it first, better, and with more heart.

Rush is on the radio because conservatives have jobs. See if you can connect the dots.

gordonbloyershow said:
O’Reilly likes to believe his commentary is responsible for making changes. That is why he called for Sherrod to be fired. He wanted to be first so he could claim he caused it. I would not be surprised if he did not know at the time of his taping of his show that she had already been fired.

People like to claim Limbaugh is pompus but he is not, O’Reilly is.

Gordo – if you don’t have your own show or your own pet chimp by the end of the year, I’ll be amazed. People like you come along just hundreds perhaps millions of times in a lifetime. Do you mind if we refer to you as “mini-me” as a tip of the hat to the legend, the man, the anal cyst, Rush Limbaugh?

Ted still listens to Air America, when he isn’t listening to the voices in his head.

gordonbloyershow said:

Morris, Rove and Gingrich always try to correct him and just talks over them claiming he is right.

People like to claim Limbaugh is pompus but he is not, O’Reilly is.

You got that right. As much as I like O’Reilly, he likes to bulldoze over people, especially women! Megan doesn’t put up with it and gives it right back to him. Love It! LOL

writer said:
Ted still listens to Air America, when he isn’t listening to the voices in his head.

And writer, of course, enjoys posting on Stormfront and wearing his hood at family BBQ’s.

Poor Ted, since I am the only one commenting here that has had a radio and television show the opportunity could come up again. Now don’t shooting off your mouth about those shows until you know what you are talking about or you will look like a bigger fool than you already are.
I have also been a guest on MAJOR talk radio stations around the country. I have also had many appearances on television stations in Chicago, San Francisco, San Jose, Salinas, Monterey and Oakland.

lanquihue said:
Second time in two weeks Schieffer comes off as ignorant. Seriously, doesn’t he have any staff? By “Old Media”, is he talking smoke signals and clicky sounds? He’s become like the kooky old uncle that just says crazy things and no one is taking him seriously anymore.

It’s time for Schieffer to play bingo with Helen Thomas at the old news reporter’s home.