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Don’t Blame Rick Perry Or Even Trump For Keeping The Birther Controversy Alive. Blame The Media.

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The entire first block of Anderson Cooper‘s program last night was devoted to keeping Rick Perry “honest” on his comments, or more accurately non-comments, about President Obama’s birth certificate. The previous night, his 10pm competitor Greta Van Susteren interviewed Donald Trump on his current view of Obama’s birth certificate. Trump (somewhat disingenuously) suggested that they “shouldn’t be talking about it” and even mocked her for posing it as the first question (he then proceeded into la la land with comments like “I am not a fan” and “not a believer” in the validity of it). In fact, in the two weeks before Rick Perry’s interview in Parade Magazine came out, the fake controversy surrounding Obama’s birth certificate earned barely a mention on cable news. According to the television transcript database TV Eyes, the terms “birther” and “birth certificate” was only mentioned 8 times across all of cable news. But since Friday, the terms “birther” and birth certificate were referenced 180 times; Fox News mentioned both 29 times, CNN 48, and MSNBC led with 103 mentions.

Opinion writers like Dana Milbank in The Washington Post used the opportunity to appeal to their bases with a slam dunk on Perry from what was effectively a rhetorical alley-oop pass. Many blogs (including this one) have been awash in attacks on Perry for his refusal to definitively say that he believes Obama’s birth certificate is real. Lets be clear, he didn’t bring up the issue, the media did. Now they –we— are taking his casual, even lighthearted comments and treating them far more seriously than he, or anyone else ought to be.

Lets start by agreeing that reasonable people now consider this to be beyond a silly issue. President Obama is a U.S. citizen with a valid birth certificate. Done. So then why are members of the media, not the Republican candidates, still spending so much time on it? Well, because its a classic, easily digestible controversy that is, in the end, the media’s lifeblood.

Let start with the origin of the controversy, the Parade Magazine interview published Sunday:

Q. Governor, do you believe that President Barack Obama was born in the United States?
A. I have no reason to think otherwise.

Q. That’s not a definitive, “Yes, I believe he”—

A. Well, I don’t have a definitive answer, because he’s never seen my birth certificate.

Q. But you’ve seen his.

A. I don’t know. Have I?

Q. You don’t believe what’s been released?

A. I don’t know. I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night.

Q. And?

A. That came up.

Q. And he said?

A. He doesn’t think it’s real.

Q. And you said?

A. I don’t have any idea. It doesn’t matter. He’s the president of the United States. He’s elected. It’s a distractive issue.

So the reporter, not Perry, raised the issue which, of course, can be a reporter’s duty on important issues candidates are reluctant to discuss. But why shouldn’t Perry’s response that he “has no reason to think otherwise” and that its “a distractive issue” basically end the issue? The reporter rightly saw a potential gotcha moment and so she followed up on it, at which point Perry turned to a somewhat lame effort at humor. More important, so many in the the rest of the media made it into THE issue from the interview. Then, yesterday, John Harwood of CNBC conducted a thorough and wide ranging interview with Perry about taxes and the economy and concluded with the only soundbite any of the media seemed truly interested in:

JOHN HARWOOD: Mitt Romney after the President released his birth certificate earlier this year said that issue’s done and settled, I accept it. You chose to keep it alive in your interview with Parade magazine over the weekend. Why’d you do that?

RICK PERRY: I– it’s a good issue to keep alive. Just– you know, Donald’s got to have some fun. So– and the issue is this.

JOHN HARWOOD: But it sounds like you really do have some doubt about it.

RICK PERRY: Well, look, I haven’t– I haven’t seen his– I haven’t seen his grades. My grades ended up on the front page of the newspaper. So, let’s– you know, if we’re going to show stuff, let’s show stuff. So. But, look, that’s all a distraction. I mean, I get it. I’m– I’m really not worried about the President’s birth certificate. It’s fun to– to poke and add him a little bit and say hey, how about– let’s see your grades and your birth certificate.

He says he is not worried about the President’s birth certificate but the media sure seems to be. Of course Perry ought to have ended the matter with a straightforward and definitive answer that the President is a US citizen, which he now seems to have finally done. But in both interviews he chose instead to make light of the question with references to Trump, Obama seeing his birth certificate etc. Is it a great or even appropriate joke? No. Is he intentionally avoiding a direct response to avoid upsetting some of the most conspiratorial of his supporters? Maybe. Regardless, the mainstream media in particular, has an obligation to stop the cycle of speculation. Instead, they are fueling it.

Affording these comments the sort of attention that ought to be reserved for important issues like the economy or national security, while Perry seems to laugh the subject off, makes the media appear petty, humorless and a bit ridiculous (by the way the reference to Obama showing his grades is a more serious and legitimate issue to raise with Perry than the birth certificate). By constantly revisiting the birther issue, the media not Perry, affords this non-issue the sort of credibility it never deserved. A CNN reporter later followed up asking what it will take to “convince” Perry “that the President was born in this country?” At this point, Perry was right to avoid continuing the “distraction” by shooting down the reporter’s question.

In his “keeping them honest” segment last night Anderson Cooper claimed “its a distraction that the Governor himself revived for no apparent reason.” No, Perry didn’t revive it. Cooper and the rest of the media did. Sure, Perry didn’t help the situation, but it’s time for those who find it so outrageous to start taking the lead from Perry and even Trump and accept that, at this point, it is just a “distractive issue.”

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  • Anonymous

    talk to tommy , dan lol

  • Pablo

    James Crugnale too. But seriously, it’s about time someone pointed this out. Thanks, Dan!

    Now, the obvious question is: Why?

  • Anonymous

    The media kept the birther controversy alive while Perry fanned the flames and then Trump pours gasoline on it!

    I am happy that the media kept this birtherism alive because it exposes the idiocy of republican big wigs like Perry and Trump. Obama is American and has released his birth certificate- end of story

  • Anonymous

    The media kept the birther controversy alive while Perry fanned the flames and then Trump pours gasoline on it!

    I am happy that the media kept this birtherism alive because it exposes the idiocy of republican big wigs like Perry and Trump. Obama is American and has released his birth certificate- end of story

  • Michelle

    Pablo, the answer is easy.   They don’t want to talk about Barry’s record of failed policies, so they do everything they can to divert attention to this mindless nonsense.  They are good little liberal lapdogs.

  • Anonymous

    The media kept the birther controversy alive while Perry fanned the flames and then Trump pours gasoline on it!

    I am happy that the media kept this birtherism alive because it exposes the idiocy of republican big wigs like Perry and Trump. Obama is American and has released his birth certificate- end of storyFlag

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    Hey Danny, how about you blame the hacks you hire for this blog.

  • D L

    Come on, Pablo, you shouldn’t have to even ask that question…

    The media will do anything to distract the public from the dismal economy, and Obama’s policies that haven’t helped the situation. Derp.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Mmmm there’s that oh so familiar whine  of victimization.

    The hilarious thing is that no matter what the subject is conservatives want to talk about Obama’s so called failed policies-of course this masks the fact that they’re own leadership is beyond incompetent.

    Now there’s an awkward conversation for Mrs. Rev. Wright indeed.

  • Anonymous

    End of story – but not for Parade?

    Did you send a note to Parade expressing your outrage?

  • Anonymous

    Repeat commenter.

  • Michelle

    You best check yourself before you are banned, my friend. 

  • Anonymous

    lol……what outrage? who cares about parade? 

  • Rufus Danegro

    Take it from somebody who gets banned ALL THE TIME! Another area of Michelle’s expertise!

    LOL
     

  • Anonymous

    hypocrisy and irony;

    You replied my comment twice! lmao

  • Anonymous

    It just took an adult….yes I mean you, Dan….to put things into perspective.

  • Rufus Danegro

    What did you expect rude? She’s an idiot.
     

  • Michelle

    And you liberals are experts in trying to shut down opinions that don’t agree with yours. 

  • Mencius

    The media plays its part but the truth is that the GOP pushed this birther theory for so long and with such energy that it became the watermark of crazy. So now, whenever someone brings it up, there’s no longer any mainstream interest (if there ever was) about the validity of the arguments, and instead the media and others just want to see how stupid the people are who keep promoting this batshit crazy theory. Combine that with an election and you have to expect reporters to cover it. You can blame the media if you want, but it’s a fire started and flamed by many GOP leaders who refused to call it what it is: racist bullshit. 

  • JamesYouToo1980

    Maybe I’m cynical, but I think Trump told Perry to mention the birth certificate because it was such a popular issue for him.  Perry tested it out for a few days, saw it was hurting him, then tried to blame the media.  Perry is desperate right now, so he will try anything.

    Prediction of Pablo’s response:
    blah blah blah YOU LIE blah blah blah LYING SACK OF S— blah blah blah YOU ARE STUPID blah blah *snicker*

  • Anonymous

    Then your final statement in your comment is false. Good to know.

  • Anonymous

    Stalker alert!

  • Rufus Danegro

    Actually I’m just an expert at shutting you and your insipid lying friends down Rev. Wright.

    Happens every day I’m happy to say!

    ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Donald Trump pushed this. The media ran with it. Trump donates to more Democratic candidates.

    You’s were fooled. And I laughed during the whole charade.

  • Rufus Danegro

    Right on brother.

  • Anonymous

    why do liberals need republicans to validate where the president was born?

  • Anonymous

    How is it false? I would like to know. 

  • Anonymous

    Standing O for Dan for shedding some truth and light onto this board on this very subject.  I have often put comments in here wondering where you were to set the record straight, I hope this is not the first (or last) time you will come on board and do so.

    I’ll await an apology from TC for fabricating that Perry was the instigator, not the media.

  • Anonymous

    Standing O for Dan for shedding some truth and light onto this board on this very subject.  I have often put comments in here wondering where you were to set the record straight, I hope this is not the first (or last) time you will come on board and do so.

    I’ll await an apology from TC for fabricating that Perry was the instigator, not the media.

  • Michelle

    You’re truly a legend in your own mind. 

  • Anonymous

    You are putting too much thought into this and are coming off like a conspiracy nut.

    Perry can’t plan stuff like this – and I say that as a conservative.

    All of the candidates in the race, whether Democratic or Republican, are horrible. If you can’t admit that, then the nation has bigger problems to worry about.

  • TruDat

    Oh no, there goes the liberal meme that Republicans bring this crap up.  Republicans/conservatives couldn’t give a rat’s ass where Obama was born or what color his skin it.  Republicans/conservatives just want the worthless douchebag out of office.

  • Anonymous

    Also, if the liberals are harping about being educated and that Republicans aren’t the Party of educated people, why do they have a problem with releasing Obama’s thesis and so on? You would think they’d be ALL about it.

    I think it would add great historical perspective too. Also, as someone that is interested in law, I’d be very interested in his law school stuff. Just as I would be interested in what any other high profile person wrote in law school.

  • Anonymous

    A bigger issue , as I read here lately in a flood of stories , seems to be James O’Keefe .

    A while back , reporters were asking conservatives if they believed Obama was a Christian .
    It was an attack question . And attack questions should always be swatted back over the net :

    “Ask Obama .” ” Ask Rev. Wright .” “ Ask your mama .” “ Ask somebody who cares . ”

    That’s why I like Liz Cheney . If she gets a contentious or foolish question , she’ll point it out and tell them what they should have asked and answer that .

  • Anonymous

    A bigger issue , as I read here lately in a flood of stories , seems to be James O’Keefe .

    A while back , reporters were asking conservatives if they believed Obama was a Christian .
    It was an attack question . And attack questions should always be swatted back over the net :

    “Ask Obama .” ” Ask Rev. Wright .” “ Ask your mama .” “ Ask somebody who cares . ”

    That’s why I like Liz Cheney . If she gets a contentious or foolish question , she’ll point it out and tell them what they should have asked and answer that .

  • Anonymous

    lol………agreed…but don’t shorten my username to “rude”…..it would be equal to me calling you “negro”…lmao……joke

  • Anonymous

     Dan Abrams,

    First you say
    “Is he intentionally avoiding a direct response to avoid upsetting some
    of the most conspiratorial of his supporters? Maybe. ”
    but you end it with
    “Regardless, the
    mainstream media in particular, has an obligation to stop the cycle of
    speculation. Instead, they are fueling it.”

    Why would the media NOT have an obligation to find which nominees pander to Lunatics?

    and then
    “but it’s time for those who find it so outrageous to start taking the
    lead from Perry and even Trump”

    Trump just started the charge again,

  • TruDat

    “Lets be clear, he didn’t bring up the issue, the media did.”

    Exactly what I was posting the other day, but none of the brain-dead, left-wing loons could grasp the point.  Ask a stupid question and you get a stupid answer.

  • TruDat

    “Lets be clear, he didn’t bring up the issue, the media did.”

    Exactly what I was posting the other day, but none of the brain-dead, left-wing loons could grasp the point.  Ask a stupid question and you get a stupid answer.

  • TruDat

    “Lets be clear, he didn’t bring up the issue, the media did.”

    Exactly what I was posting the other day, but none of the brain-dead, left-wing loons could grasp the point.  Ask a stupid question and you get a stupid answer.

  • Texan

    Kudos to Dan! You should write more, here.

  • Anonymous

    Let state the truth on this.  The MSM pushed this stupid story to deflect.  They kept asking every republican they could get their hands on the same question this stupid reporter asked.

    Why?

    You guys are obviously not 100% convinced  and want the right to validate what you obviously have issues with?
    If you did believe firmly, you wouldn’t care what anyone else thought.  

    Who cares?  You do.  The rest of us don’t give a fig and never have.

  • Anonymous

    Let state the truth on this.  The MSM pushed this stupid story to deflect.  They kept asking every republican they could get their hands on the same question this stupid reporter asked.

    Why?

    You guys are obviously not 100% convinced  and want the right to validate what you obviously have issues with?
    If you did believe firmly, you wouldn’t care what anyone else thought.  

    Who cares?  You do.  The rest of us don’t give a fig and never have.

  • TruDat

    You can’t read, can you clown?

  • Texan

    He’s been blocked countless times. He just makes a new account.

  • Texan

    I was referring to dufus, not Tony.

  • Anonymous

    About the title:  THAT’S WHAT I SAID BEFORE.
    Birthers is nutz. We already know who they are.
    Move on to important issues, like what is Madonna doing these days?

  • Anonymous

    Actually you’re no expert.  You are just like the old elevator operator – keep pushing buttons there bro.  

    Hmm Rev. Wright?  Was that a Freudian slip there?  

  • Texan

    Clearly, you didn’t read one word of Mr. Abrams piece.

  • Anonymous

    DAN

    IT’S 2011 . WHY ALLOW AN OFFENSIVE, MADE-UP NAME LIKE

                                 RUFUS DA NEGRO

                            TO SULLY YOUR WEBSITE ?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly
  • Texan

    Uh, you hold the record for being blocked, dufus.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is American and has released his birth certificate- end of story.

    This is your main premise. Therefore, with your belief system, you should have sent Parade an email, a note or called their customer service line to express your outrage.

  • Anonymous

    He ended his comment with a comma. That says it all.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    was it TC or James? 

  • Anonymous

    Hahaha I think she just arrived in NY. I only say that because I had E! on and while I think it was a repeat episode from yesterday, they talked about her just having arrived in NY.

    However, I understand the underlying point in your post. :)

  • TruDat

    Maybe he’s still thinking!

  • Texan

    No, the media did. Dummy.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for siding with the stalker. Now, not that I didn’t know this before, you will be viewed as a loon.

  • Anonymous

    Ah good point, TC is obsessed with O’Keefe…but I think he threw in a birther story too.  (Anything but solyndra and fast and furious.)  Yup he did, this morning…claiming Perry flip/flopped on the whole birther thingy.

  • Texan

    Will tc be doing a hit piece on this piece? Waiting…

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    with your line of reasoning, I should be contacting fox and msnbc every time one of their journalists lies in order to share my outrage.

    You are a shining light of impossible standards

  • Anonymous

    What does Sam Stein think of this? Did Sam Stein get Dan drunk before Dan wrote this?

    And really, can we get Carney’s thoughts on this too?

  • Anonymous

    It’s silly to blame the media when Perry could easily shut down the question like Romney did.  Nobody asks Romney the question anymore because he shot down the idea that he even considers the BC issue anything but silly.  Perry won’t do that, he leaves the door open and as long as he does that it’s a valid question because moderates and independents just starting to pay attention to the race need to know his position.  

  • Anonymous

    This is the type of piece that will earn you scorn & derision at Mediaite.  Luckily for Dan, he’s the boss.  But, if they had a lunch room, the other mediaite children would be throwing their twinkies at him.  

  • Irish189

    Can’t i just put blame on any media organization or politician who won’t leave it alone or can’t give a reasonable rational response?  

  • Anonymous

    lol……..lol….you are the loon-

    what kind of loon calls him or herself a toilet (wc) in Wisconsin (wi)?

  • Michelle

    Independents have been paying attention and that’s why their support for Barry has tanked. 

  • Anonymous

    WC stands for WC, just like EC is East Coast.

    Apparently, you don’t understand geographic terms.

  • Anonymous

    Dan,you need to spend more time here.your common sense straight to the point and articulate writings are sorely missed.You hit the nail on the head as usual,this was yet another media dust up,with flames fanned in every direction including from here by a well known biased voice on this site.

    Everything about this particular event was unimportant.Perry said nothing about it that should have meant anything to anybody,yet here we all were being inundated on every news channel,site and program with all sorts of innuendo laced stories concerning Perry and his stance on the birth certificate.

    Not only did this expose the media feeding frenzy elections create,but it also exposed media bias.even if you believe the media is not biased,this event did nothing to prove that point.It’s a shame we live in a world where money is as important an element when it comes to news coverage as the news itself.It’s a shame that money outweighs integrity and accuracy.It’s a shame that advertising dollars through drawn eyeballs is more important than what those eyeballs are drawn to.

    And just think,we have over a year to go until the election.I’m sure we haven’t seen anywhere near the end of pointless stories about unimportant issues,and words from people,like Trump,who really shouldn’t have any bearing on who gets elected.Although I’m sure some will learn from this little distraction,it won’t change a thing,including on this site.We’ll still get hit pieces going after any and every possible nugget of vague information used to put forward an agenda or make a group deemed the opposition look bad.there’s one on this site today concerning a staffer for Eric Cantor,total nothingness propelled into a slam of Cantor,his party and his staff.

    The moral to this story,unfortunately,is you can’t trust the media to present the unadulterated truth,the real complete story,an unopinionated view of candidates,parties or ideologies.It just isn’t out there any more and it’s probably gone forever.The voter and even people who just want to be informed must take everything with a massive grain of salt,be suspicious,be careful and “trust no one”.If you want to get the best overall view and complete facts you probably need to watch several channels and distill a general idea from them all.

    Sometimes I wonder if somebody somehow was to create a completely unbiased news source that was designed to give only complete truth with no opinions and no concerns about ratings,revenues and ad dollars,if it would survive under any conditions.We the public have become so conditioned to getting biased news we probably wouldn’t watch the truth,our heads might explode.Plus the real truth would be so frightening,so horrendously terrible,it might cause riots,coups and insurrection.

    At any rate,thank you Dan.Please come back here more often and please keep an eye on your creation so it doesn’t turn into yet another monster.

  • Anonymous

    Hillary Clinton Supporters – The Original Birthers !!

  • Guest

    Why did the Parade interviewer as Rick Perry this question to begin with?

  • Anonymous

    I dont live in America…….in other countries SE is South East, SW is South West………

  • Anonymous

    I could bet that Trump is paying the media to keep the birther controversy alive, and by that keep his [Trump's] name mentioned as many times per week as possible. I even believe Mediaite gets its share too b/c EVERY time Trump barks something on TV it is instantly echoed here.

    As for Mr Empty Suit (Rick Perry) he said it in hope to score better in the polls, but since it backfired it is now the fault of the media because they reported on his insanity (SIC!)

  • Anonymous

    Word to the wise: If you’re a foreigner commenting on a foreign website, try not to use a bad ID login like the one you chose. It won’t reflect well on whatever country you live in.

    Glad to help those abroad.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Sorry your Teapublican candidates and stars can’t just disavow the Birthers, huh? They either believe the Birther lies, or they believe if they disavow the Birthers, they will lose much support. well, it’s your boil. I am not going to lance it.

  • ceeza

    What are the polls saying today Michelle?  What’s that?  Obama’s leading all of the members of the goof troop.. Not to mention Ohio and Florida’s Republican Governors, which I remind you are 2 key states, have the lowest approval ratings of the lot.  If Obama wins Florida it’s a wrap. I got my money on the champ..  Where’s Christie , Mitch Daniels or Jeb when you need em? 

  • Anonymous

    I know it is wrong of the candidates to continue to waffle just enough to keep the few birther votes that still exist. I know it bothers you and many others that Perry ever “left room for doubt.” The thing to understand is that Perry and the others who questioned the certificate will probably be out of the race before the nominating convention. If any one of them is still in, the birther thing will come up then. Meanwhile, only third rate reporters who can’t think of anything else will continue to make it an issue now.
    Look at Trump. He already declared he wouldn’t run (BIG SURPRISE) and this birther thing just gives him more publicity, which he loves.
    Parade magazine is a free Sunday supplement to newspapers. That ought to tell you something. 

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    The answer is clear to all. It’s a conspiracy, the LSM, the SEIU, the OWS protesters, all Libruls, Blue Dog Democrats, Commanists, &c, &c. Each and every one acting in concert to make the Donald and Tollbooth look like Crackers. It’s a conspiracy, I tell you.

  • Anonymous

    RRE: You keep talking to me despite our agreement MONTHS ago to not talk. Can you not follow rules?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    James, I hate to say this but Jeff is an expert in not reading.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Like I said, it’s a conspiracy!

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I think she rolls victimization in her pits every morning.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    See. Conservative victimization Syndrome. Again.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    CVS.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    SOCK PUPPET.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    CVS.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Troll.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    OLBYLOON!

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    But, he was a Republican candidate, bidet.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Especially since you stopped the spammer, Big Eddie.

  • Quick Question Dan

    Hey Dan don’t you think its a little odd that a media watchdog site like you claim this site to be has a White House Correspondent & a Liberal columnist and its the same guy?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    So, you’re saying it’s a conspiracy?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Yes, that is a big, important question. And, what about the Rev. Dr. Wright and Dr. Bill Ayers?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I’m tired of people acting like O’Keefe is a criminal!

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Y*A*W*N

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    DID YOU HAVE AN X’TRA COMMA?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    HORSE MOLESTER!

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Lard Limbaugh Talking Point #4(c)(1).

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Part of the conspiracy ….

  • Anonymous

    Perry needs to man up and his supporters need to quit their incessant whining. Perry built his campaign around his claim to be the plain spoken, no-nonense candidate. There was nothing plain spoken about his answer. Instead, he chose to be coy. 

    Conservatives can cry victimhood all they want, but we’ve seen this game before. It didn’t work for Palin, it’s not going to work for Perry either.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    You talkig bout breakin rules. You? You, Bidet? You can’t reply to the final post in a series. You still talkin bout breakin rules?

  • Mencius

    It’s easily proven that the birther stuff started way before Trump used it to get media coverage–much, much earlier. When it was first brought up, GOP leaders didn’t swat it down and some even said they had the same questions about his birth certificate. Having publicly elected officials support (implicitly or otherwise) a conspiracy theory is only going to bolster it. I’m not saying the Republican party started the theory but it definitely helped keep the theory alive way before Trump was a proponent. So Trump had little to do with why this is still around. 

    I don’t have time now to post links showing you the timeline but I’m sure you already know it or can spend a few minutes on Google seeing it for yourself. 

  • Anonymous

    Because Perry has demonstrated a willingness to believe all sorts of nonsense, from creationism to prayer bringing prosperity to climate change denialism. It was no stretch of the imagination to think that he would buy into the birther claim or at least was willing to play it for all it was worth. 

  • Anonymous

    “Sure, Perry didn’t help the situation, but it’s time for those who
    find it so outrageous to start taking the lead from Perry and even Trump
    and accept that, at this point, it is just a “distractive issue.”

    You must be crazy. I’m not taking any leads from Perry, and especially not Trump.

    “Lets start by agreeing that reasonable people now consider this to be beyond a silly issue.”

    Let’s mull that over. Reasonable people now consider this to be beyond a silly issue. Now. Reasonable people NOW… hold on a minute. REASONABLE people have ALWAYS considered this to be a silly issue. I hate to break it to you (not really), but anyone who thought this was a silly issue, only after President Obama released the long form, is NOT a REASONABLE person. Reasonable people saw the birther bs for what it was from the start.

    “But why shouldn’t Perry’s response that he “has no reason to think
    otherwise” and that its “a distractive issue” basically end the issue?”

    I don’t know, Dan. Perhaps it has something to do with the pandering to Trump and the birthers Perry does between those statements. Maybe it’s because, as the reporter pointed out, it was not a definitive, “Yes I believe he was born in this country.” It’s right there in the transcript you posted.

    “Then, yesterday, John Harwood of CNBC conducted a thorough and wide ranging interview with Perry about taxes and the economy and concluded with the only soundbite any of the media seemed truly interested in”

    When a Presidential candidate flirts with the ideology of a racist movement (Birthers/Graders), the media, and general public, tends to place that pretty high on their priority list. When you take into account that the candidate has already been through one scandal (involving a rock), which resulted in a fellow candidate from his party calling him “insensitive,” it really does raise questions when that candidate seeks the audience and approval of Donald Trump, and starts giving “winks” toward his birther (racist) ideology. Sane people (the one’s not called out for their lunacy by crazy man Pat Robertson) start to wonder if the man is indeed racist, insensitive (as suggested by Cain) and merely playing to racists, or flat out stupid for following his decline in general, and “N Head” controversy in particular, with this. Herman Cain should expect to endure a lot more “Brother” talk from Perry next debate, after this one. 

    “By constantly revisiting the birther issue, the media not Perry, affords
    this non-issue the sort of credibility it never deserved.”

    I will grant you that the media bares fault for having given birthers a platform in the first place. They aren’t culpable in giving it credibility now, though. There are a lot of people who supported, flirted with, or silently/subtly condoned the birther movement. They were afforded a lot of airtime by the media. Now they have been proven wrong beyond even a crazy person’s standards. The only one’s still clinging on to it are batsh*t level crazy and beyond. I want the media to shine that light on them so we can see that egg on their face. We had to endure their nonsense all of that time before the release of the long form. Exposing these idiots now isn’t going to somehow give credence to their bs. It’s going to let us know who the morons are. There were a lot of people on the right who bought into this nonsense. There weren’t many leaders on the right who outright shut it down. It’s an appropriate question to ask. The question isn’t being asked to afford some kind of legitimacy to birtherism. It’s being asked so that we can know who is deserving of condemnation. That is the difference between the media’s coverage then and now.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, Michelle isn’t big on quoting polls except when they serve her narrative. 

    (BTW, I like the Goof Troop; I may use that!)

  • Anonymous

    Opinion writers like Dana Milbank in The Washington Post and Tommy Christopher of Mediaite  used the opportunity to appeal to their bases with a slam dunk on Perry from what was effectively a rhetorical alley-oop pass.

    FTFY Dan

  • Anonymous

    Advice to Mediaite:  If you want to help Obama, try defending his bloated, debt-ridden big government policies.  And if you can’t do that, spare us the tiresome articles on his place of birth.

  • Anonymous

    Is english your third language, or are you darla’s dad?

  • Rufus Danegro

    Look like you lose again tiny Eddie putz.

    ahhhhh that was sooo satisfying!

  • Rufus Danegro

    Yawn!

  • TruDat

    Then I guess you have nothing to worry about; go to bed.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, Barack, you were born in the US back in 1961.  But what have you done for us lately?

  • Anonymous

    As long as you guys take the bait and nominate Perry or Bachmann or Cain, I’ll sleep very well. 

  • Anonymous

    Dan writes ‘

    In his “keeping them honest” segment last night Anderson Cooper claimed “its a distraction that the Governor himself revived for no apparent reason.” No, Perry didn’t revive it..  Cooper and the rest of the media did.


    Yes, Cooper should fess up and add himself to his own ridiculust list. I suspect he will, too.

  • TruDat

    Any one of those you named will beat Obama.  Ask James Carville.

  • Rufus Danegro

    ACA, DADT repeal, SCHIP, Financial Stability Act and Dodd-Frank, Ledbetter Act, Shepard Act, ARRA, GM rescue, expanded Pell Grants, funding for K-12 Internet access, Head Start, Early Learning expansion, stimulus creating 3.7 million jobs, Smart Grid framework, $8B for new nukes, raised CAFE requirements, limiting mountaintop removal, strengthened FDA and EPA, benefits for same-sex partners of federal employees, appointed two good Supreme Court justices, killed Medicare Advantage, cut Medicare drug costs, reduced the donut hole, bin Laden, Gaddafi, … 

  • Anonymous

    Dan: 

    If the Democratic base had a significant number of 9/11 Truthers, would it not be appropriate to ask their candidates if they were sympathetic to their claims? And if that candidate hedged in some way, would it not be worthy of a follow up question? 

    The Republican party has a large Birther base — perhaps 25%, and maybe more. It’s naive to believe that at least one or more of those candidates would not play to that constituency. Perry got caught doing so and has paid the price. 

    Don’t blame the media; blame the candidate who’s too coy for his own good.

  • Anonymous

    EVERY poll shows Obama’s support among independents has dropped from the low 50s to the low30s. I may not agree with Michelle’s reason why, and it certainly isn’t one of Limbaugh’s comments, but to say that Obama’s support is strong or undamaged is simply delusional. He’s toast in 2012. He better hope the OWS socialist insurrection does something quick, or its over for Barry.

    The fact is – like this article states, and all you libs’ comments have proven – this isn’t about the birth certificate anymore. This is just a convenient hammer to hit people on the Right over the head with. The issue isn’t even the issue anymore; you on the Left have weaponized it into a groupthink.

  • Anonymous

    And don’t forget that he drives the stupids crazy. That alone makes his reelection worthwhile. 

  • Anonymous

    Dream on, idiot. 

  • Bob

    Guess you missed Greta the Scientologist at FOX using Donald Trump to put the issue in the spotlight.

  • Anonymous

    Which is why it will that much more enjoyable to watch you lefties the morning after, when your Precious One goes down in a landlside that makes Carter look like  genius. 

    Everything Rufus listed either increased sending unneccessarily and put us further in debt, fulfilled some stupid social dogma you imposed on a majority of people who didn’t want it, increased the costs of business leading to higher unemployment, or… as in the case of ghadaffi and bin laden – he acted just like Bush, which you claimed to hate. The fact is, Obama looks most Presidential whe he acts most like Bush. 

    See you tools in 2012.

  • http://www.facebook.com/goodstix Mark Evans

    You mean his fake one.

  • Jakyankee

    When will the media “investigate” the strange case of Obama having a Social Security number that was issued in the State of Connecticut when he never lived, worked, or attended school there? How come all Obama’s college records are sealed and the media couldn’t care less? Move along now… Nothing to see.

  • NORBIT

    How can any of these candidates, or anyone else, make a definitive statement as to whether his certificate, something they’ve never seen, nor have any expertise in evaluating, is legitimate or not? It’s absurd!

    It’s a calculated MEDIA SMEAR to conjure and propagate a narrative detrimental to the interests of Republicans!

    The ”mainstream media” today no longer exists; it has been co-opted by the Democratic Party, and now serves at their discretion!

  • D L

    Except Ron Paul. He’s the only honest one, at least.

  • ceeza

    And EVERY poll shows Obama is beating all of the Republican candidates at the moment.. Independents have soured on Obama this is true.. Hell many democrats have soured on Obama… Still given the choice of Obama or one of the Republican candidates, as of today, Independents would pinch there nose and re elect Obama.  

  • http://twitter.com/Icabods Icabod

    Only if you believe Orly Taitz’s word.

  • http://twitter.com/Icabods Icabod

    Only if you believe Orly Taitz’s word.

  • Anonymous

    Lol…..Fail……i guess you dont know the meaning of “rudeboy” then

  • Jan Blount

    This article is amazing, because I was just thinking about how it was the media who resurrected the “birther” issue. It’s so transparent how they do it, and so ridiculous how we all follow right along like we have rings in our noses. If the Parade interviewer had asked for instance, “So, do you think Obama is Muslim?” we would be thrashing around in the muck of a million comments about how Perry doesn’t believe Obama is a Christian. C’mon – wise up, people.

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s birth home movie

    Even with the
    release of his long-form birth certificate, President Obama still faces the
    disbelief of many Birthers, and now Perry, who claim they weren’t in attendance at the actual
    event and consequently still insist the president is foreign born. In
    anticipation of such a reaction, Obama has uploaded onto YooHooTube a home (or
    more precisely “hospital”) movie made by his father of the actual birth. Typical
    of home movies and hand held cameras, the footage varies in quality and
    composition, but the president’s mother is clearly identifiable entering the
    hospital, donning a gown, and moving through the birth sequences.
    According to family lore, Obama’s father persisted in his request,
    unusual at the time, to film the birth event. Obstetrician David Sinclair,
    MD, acquiesced to placate the excited father-to-be. An early establishing shot
    shows the entrance sign to Honolulu’s Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological
    Hospital, followed immediately by a scene in which Obama’s mother, obviously in
    labor, urges her husband to “get me into the hospital, NOW!”The
    YooHoo Tube film also includes excerpts from Obama’s first and third birthdays,
    including the serving of birthday cake, opening of presents, and, instead of the
    traditional birthday song, a stirring rendition of “Hail to the Chief.” It is
    not known if or how that musical choice may have influenced Obama’s career
    choice.

    -from Thinking Out Loud, April 27, http://marperl.blogspot.com/

  • Lioneljones11

    1. It’s the fault of anyone who still pursues the matter
    2. It’s the fault of any broadcaster who entertains any ‘media personality’ after the first time they suggest this
    3. It’s the fault of any media organization (eg Mediaite) who continue to draw coverage from reporting on fake scandals perpetuated by balding billionaire court jesters
    4. It’s the fault of anyone who even comments on any one of these stupid articles
    5. So basically, nearly everyone is to blame but the order of blame is in this comment.

  • Anonymous

    Just look….the birth certificate articles are so tired and boring, even the liberals are falling asleep.

  • Pablo

    Redundant to the post too. Why be pointless twice?

  • Pablo

    Did you read the piece, you moron? Perry did not bring it up. Do you even know what the phrase means?

    Yes, you are stupid. And yes, if you’re going to be stupid, I’m going to point it out. That prediction is the most intelligent thing in your comment.

  • Pablo

    A dumb one though, huh? Silly progressives!

  • Pablo

    Ah, another one who comments without reading the article. Genius.

  • Pablo

    Yes, it started in Hillary’s campaign. See: Berg, Phil.

  • Pablo

    No, it’s a knee jerk reaction. Almost an instinct.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4PGNKA4VZ2KDXGZW4IIWLGCDHE TrulyTexan

    In 30 years, Obama’s real birth certificate will be published and many will be very surprised.

  • Pablo

    It was also James.

    Perry set himself up for the question by bringing up the conspiracy theory in an interview with Parade Magazine
    this weekend and kept the issue alive in a followup interview by
    saying, “It’s fun to poke at him a little bit and say, ‘Hey, how about
    it. Let’s see your grades and your birth certificate.’”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-perry-shuts-down-cnn-reporter-for-birther-question/

  • Pablo

    It was also James.

    Perry set himself up for the question by bringing up the conspiracy theory in an interview with Parade Magazine
    this weekend and kept the issue alive in a followup interview by
    saying, “It’s fun to poke at him a little bit and say, ‘Hey, how about
    it. Let’s see your grades and your birth certificate.’”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-perry-shuts-down-cnn-reporter-for-birther-question/

  • Pablo

    Maybe a staff meeting or two on critical analysis would be helpful too.

  • Anonymous

    Like all Republicans, Donald Trump is a compulsive liar.  He perpetrated a great fraud on the American people based on nothing but racism.  He then lied about his fake investigators finding fake evidence in Hawaii.  When a major presidential candidate meets with this kind of madman, it’s news.  It needs to be discussed.  Pretty simple.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Lol!!

  • Anonymous

    Dan Abrams said
    “but it’s time for those who find it so outrageous to start taking the
    lead from Perry and even Trump and accept that, at this point, it is
    just a “distractive issue.”

    HAHAHAHA

    Donald Trump Says Rick Perry Raising Birther Issue Could Help Him In Republican Primary

  • Anonymous

    Dan Abrams said
    “but it’s time for those who find it so outrageous to start taking the
    lead from Perry and even Trump and accept that, at this point, it is
    just a “distractive issue.”

    HAHAHAHA

    Donald Trump Says Rick Perry Raising Birther Issue Could Help Him In Republican Primary

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Let the “Birther” issue rise again from the ashes… it only proves that Republicons can’t handle the truth!!

    Plus, when Perry or Trump are covered by the media for their ignorant comments and beliefs, it’s acceptable… it shows to most Americans how stupid Republicons can be!! What’s the harm in that??

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Let the “Birther” issue rise again from the ashes… it only proves that Republicons can’t handle the truth!!

    Plus, when Perry or Trump are covered by the media for their ignorant comments and beliefs, it’s acceptable… it shows to most Americans how stupid Republicons can be!! What’s the harm in that??

  • Angelo R. Mozilo

    Birth-certificate addiction is a market driver for left lib infotainment (next thing you know, they’ll dream up some faddish camping festival in lower Manhattan, just to have something to report on–hey, it could happen!)

    If not for the plethora of birth certificate non-news all lib headlines would go along the lines of “Kardashian Criticizes Lohan” or “1 Weird Crazy Trick To Remove Belly Fat”, etc.

  • Tim Tebow

    The “story” ends when people stop talking about it–regardless of how it starts and irrespective of the “story’s” validity. That Parry continues to nourish it indicates, quite simply, that he’s not very smart.

  • Tim Tebow

    Why would you care, “Michelle?”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha-Adams/100002248335491 Samantha Adams

    So to get this matter straight.  Being a US citizen is not enough to make you a natural born citizen as written in the constitution.  You must be born on US soil AND BOTH YOUR PARENTS must be US or US naturalized citizens.  Obama’s father was neither therefore Obama is not eligible.  You never hear this on the lame stream media.  He is a fraud and the media, congress and the courts are all covering for him.  We The People will stop him though!  Just watch and see folks! 

  • Anonymous

    What does Greta have to do with Parade magazine?

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul’s supporters do him in.

  • Anonymous

    He was never a candidate dude.

    You keep talking to me. Please stop.

  • Anonymous

    You keep talking.

    Please get a hobby that doesn’t include talking to me.

  • Anonymous

    wow..mazing…

  • Anonymous

    Funny how this idiotic story keeps coming up, but almost 60% of democrats can believe that Bush killed 3,000 Americans and we never heard too much about it. I’ll bet MSNBC hasn’t mentioned the word “truther” 103 times in 10 years. 

    You’re right, Dan. It is the media that keeps this alive. Seems like Matthews has a segment on it every other day whether the subject is in the news or not. 

    On a side note, thanks again for Mediaite. Great site. :)

  • Anonymous

    I hate stuff that increases sending.

  • Anonymous

    You’re talking about the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and the Medicare drug benefit combined with massive tax cuts, right?  You know, all that stuff Paul Ryan voted for.

  • Anonymous

    Right, Bachmann in a landslide.

  • TruDat

    Speaking of pretty simple, how ya’ doin’?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    thx, i missed that one.

  • Anonymous

    Over the last three years, this controversy has roiled thanks to OBAMA. Obama – the most powerful man in the world – pretends to be victimized by it; his administration, fauxgressives and the media have desperately and UNSUCCESSFULLY tried to convince the public that birthers are lunatics; a soldier went to Leavenworth; and who knows how many resources and tax dollars have been flushed down the toilet moving the zillions of attempted lawsuits
    out of court…all to keep this long form bc from being made public for three long years??

    It’s either a fake bc, or Obama is a disgusting, petulant child and completely incapable of leading this country or any other. No thinking human being could accept another possible conclusion.

  • Anonymous

    The media is definitely keeping this issue alive.  The candidates aren’t talking about this, but the media brings it up and then says ‘hey, LOOK he’s doing it’. 

    Perry is a target being used for practice by the MSM.  He and all of the other candidates need to be marginalized so that Obama can be re-elected.

    And if you have to ask the question, you’re not paying attention.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Lond/100000950693221 Don Lond

    I worry about what the appeasing GOP will give away to be liked by the Washington Crowd?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DH5LWT6OH4O44HQOVWPC7N5MQU ValidFib

    Maybe it’s because the press knows a real story when they see it. And in this case, they can’t promote it, though they’re anxious to get it out there.
    Real eyes, realize, real lies.
    When BO’s BC was presented in digital form, many people we’re not convinced it was authentic, in fact, it raised more questions. Why release an electronic version when Hawaiian state law makes it a crime to present an official state document in a digital form. Think about that. Secondly, looking at the document you’ll see layers which suggests it was tampered with. Blow it up and you’ll see that some of the typewritten script has kearning which is impossible for a typewriter, thus it must have been created by a PC. Also, notice that BO Sr’s race is listed as ‘African’. Are we really that dummmbbbb? In 1961, his father’s race would have to be ‘Negro’ on this document. Never has ‘African’ been considered a race on any official form, then or now. Add the fact that BO uses to this day, a bogus Connecticut Social Security number (as does his Aunt and Uncle both illegals in this country) then some open minded writers in the press see something below the surface, that there’s more to this story and would like to investigate it but their “ministry of truth” overseers won’t let them.

  • kansas

    Yes. Journolisters get the memo.

  • Anonymous

    I think you have a point but Rick Perry ought to know that “having some fun” with a dogwhistle like whether or not our president is eligible to lead the country is inappropriate at best. At worst, it was a bone to the radical right and don’t tell me he wouldn’t know that if he thought about it. In any event, the only proper response would be to unequivocally reject any discussion about Obama’s birth certificate.

    As for Trump, it’s true the media is very culpable, particularly Fox. But not because they focus too much on his ludicrous accusations. But because they continue to give him credibility. This ought to be a game ender for The Donald. Instead, Fox News in particular continues to treat him as a serious pundit and NBC continues to allow him to host a show. Even after he brought back the birther talk with Greta Van Susteren, she continued to spend the next 10 minutes or so seeking out his analysis of the 2012 presidential race.

  • Ralph

    Barack Obama’s mother worked for USAID, which everyone knows is a CIA front organization.  If the CIA says he’s okay, then he’s okay.  End of story.

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