I believe he was also a member of Rev. Wright congregation. Ah the people the Obama’s CHOOSE to surround themselves with. It speaks volumes.

As Media Matters caught, Fox News was for Common before it was against him. Do you think the change of heart might have anything to do with the fact that he was invited to the White House?

http://www.newshounds.us/2011/05/10/fox_news_was_for_the_rapper_common_before_it_was_against_him.php

Van Jones produced a CD with imprisoned cop killer Mumia .

Mumia murdered policeman Danny Faulkner . shot him in the face .

Van later selected by Obama and Jarrett to be green jobs czar .

Obama completely comfortable with dirtbag rappers like Common and others .

Good choice , liberals .

Liberal Tormentor said:
I believe he was also a member of Rev. Wright congregation. Ah the people the Obama’s CHOOSE to surround themselves with. It speaks volumes.

More like this faux outrage speaks volumes about people who watch FOX, admire Palin and share you pathetic simple minded worldview.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Van Jones produced a CD with imprisoned cop killer Mumia .

Mumia murdered policeman Danny Faulkner . shot him in the face .

Van later selected by Obama and Jarrett to be green jobs czar .

Obama completely comfortable with dirtbag rappers like Common and others .

Good choice , liberals .

Guilt by third degree association, way to go you stupid fanatic!

jakester said:
Guilt by third degree association, way to go you stupid fanatic!

Can you imagine if Laura had invited a poet that wrote about killing black people? And I love that Martin of CNN defends this by saying cop killing isn’t controversial in the rap world. Looks good on ya. ;)

Really Sarah? Why not worry about Bristol who has reconstructed her face and will be whoring herself for more coin on another reality show on the BIO channel. This woman is pathetic. Hey Sarah, what did you think of Tiny Fey’s performance last Saturday? Notice how the First Lady keeps ignoring you? It’s as if you didn’t exists. Clearly her Ivy league education has paid off!

roxsteady said:
Really Sarah? Why not worry about Bristol who has reconstructed her face and will be whoring herself for more coin on another reality show on the BIO channel. This woman is pathetic. Hey Sarah, what did you think of Tiny Fey’s performance last Saturday? Notice how the First Lady keeps ignoring you? It’s as if you didn’t exists. Clearly her Ivy league education has paid off!

I hope you feel the same way if a poet of the KKK gets invited to the White House.

There’s a tradition of previous White Houses hosting people with purportedly controversial lyrics.
Pl. read:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/05/depraved-music-is-a-white-house-tradition/238647/

tatboy said:
I hope you feel the same way if a poet of the KKK gets invited to the White House.

A KKK poet? This implys that a KKK member could actually read. Seriously, you, Palin and that punk ass, bow tie wearing Tucker Carlson should get lives. We all know that Palin and Carlson are still bitter about 2008.

roxsteady said:
Really Sarah? Why not worry about Bristol who has reconstructed her face and will be whoring herself for more coin on another reality show on the BIO channel. This woman is pathetic. Hey Sarah, what did you think of Tiny Fey’s performance last Saturday? Notice how the First Lady keeps ignoring you? It’s as if you didn’t exists. Clearly her Ivy league education has paid off!

Or how Bristol got 262K from a “charity” that discourages teen pregnancies? A charity that only gave 35k to clinics to help teen mothers while that phony bitch was shacked up with her boyfriend while she was preaching abstinence. Only someone with the lowest standards could be okay with that payoff! One that was based solely on her lame ass mom’s fame.

By the way, this is off topic but, I see that mediaite has posted the story on Donald’s plunge into the abyss. I guess Rush and many of you lemmings here were wrong about Trump beating this President even with this tough economy. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

meena140 said:
Really Sarah? Why not worry about Bristol who has reconstructed her face and will be whoring herself for more coin on another reality show on the BIO channel. This woman is pathetic. Hey Sarah, what did you think of Tiny Fey’s performance last Saturday? Notice how the First Lady keeps ignoring you? It’s as if you didn’t exists. Clearly her Ivy league education has paid off!

Yeah! To the FOX crowd, you have to pass their Girl Scout virgin purity test or they are going to throw their usual childish fit over nothing.

Exactly. Look what passes for talent over there. Victoria Jackson and Dennis Miller. Cast offs from SNL who never did anything else.

roxsteady said:
By the way, this is off topic but, I see that mediaite has posted the story on Donald’s plunge into the abyss. I guess Rush and many of you lemmings here were wrong about Trump beating this President even with this tough economy. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

When has Rush ever been wrong about anything? He is the heart , brain and soul or REAL AMERICA and if you have a problem with Rush, you are simply another un-American commie Nazi lib traitor! Just ask Davo about it, he’s the leading d(sh)ittohead here.

Trump is last week’s news, now the same bunch of idiots have moved on to Herman Cain.

Jakester, have you met Box of Rox? l think you two could be a match made in liberal, seething with rage and hate, heaven. But please, please, do us a favor and do NOT reproduce.

roxsteady said:
A KKK poet? This implys that a KKK member could actually read. Seriously, you, Palin and that punk ass, bow tie wearing Tucker Carlson should get lives. We all know that Palin and Carlson are still bitter about 2008.

Bath in your hate all you want… but it would seem you’re in need of a life sense Palin lives in your dome 24/7. Keep supporting fans of cop killing. Looks good on ya. PS moron… remember how the left treated Laura when she had a poetry reading at the White House? Talk about needing a life,

roxsteady and jakester… lovers of killing cops and setting the United States president on fire. They are good people. ;)

“Obama to Honor Controversial Rapper Known for Cop-Killing, Misogynistic Lyrics”

…the brothers stick together against THE MAN.

(Remember “You Lie!” ‘s insults to the Cambridge Police who were doing their job. )

obviously, conservative critics have never heard of Common, until today

if you actually listen to Common’s albums, they are conscious, deep, thoughtful, etc

i

Liberal Tormentor said:
Jakester, have you met Box of Rox? l think you two could be a match made in liberal, seething with rage and hate, heaven. But please, please, do us a favor and do NOT reproduce.

Can you imagine the hateful little mutant spawn that would produce? Like Chucky, only uglier.

jakester said:
More like this faux outrage speaks volumes about people who watch FOX, admire Palin and share you pathetic simple minded worldview.

Actually, he was a member of Trinity. Not sure if he still is, but he is a Chicago south sider so I wouldn’t read to much into Michelle O.’s invite other than just another Chicago connection.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Van Jones produced a CD with imprisoned cop killer Mumia .

Mumia murdered policeman Danny Faulkner . shot him in the face .

Van later selected by Obama and Jarrett to be green jobs czar .

Obama completely comfortable with dirtbag rappers like Common and others .

Good choice , liberals .

can you explain to me, with examples, how common is a “dirtbag”?

and as for mumia, sure he shot a cop. but he’s on death row.

now, what about all those cops who shot innocent black guys?

any on death row who you can think of?

The 0bamas have no sense of propriety and are an embarrassment to the nation. “Common” is the perfect name.

darladoon said:
obviously, conservative critics have never heard of Common, until today

if you actually listen to Common’s albums, they are conscious, deep, thoughtful, etc

i

Hysterical!

The unsteady roxsteady said:

.” I guess Rush and many of you lemmings here were wrong about Trump beating this President even with this tough economy. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?”

Actually what I said here on this site was that Trump’s numbers were artrificial and temporary and would soon wane when other, less colorful candidates came on the scene. So did other people.

But here’s a news flash…..Obama sucks at his job in a big way. His bin Laden bump in numbers is as temporary as Trump’s. Don’t get used to gloating, roxsteady. The bloom will be off that rose soon enough.

You may now continue with your regularly scheduled nastiness and insults.

This chump was also a member of the Wright Church congregation in Chicago.
That about sums up his “art.”

Van Jones’s homeys, no doubt. Thugocracy, indeed.

What’s with the new “conscious” meme? Sheryl Crow just used the word to describe 0bama. I know it’s the latest psuedo-post-hippie compliment, but it sounds to me like they’re just glad that he’s not UN-”conscious.” Quick someone, engage your “inner child” and spout EST dialogue!

Liberal Tormentor said:
Jakester, have you met Box of Rox? l think you two could be a match made in liberal, seething with rage and hate, heaven. But please, please, do us a favor and do NOT reproduce.

“seething with rage and hate,”? Now there is some classic irony and hypocrisy, all coming from a cretin called “Liberal Tormentor”! I guess that means you are all full of love and compassion? What a hypocrite, like the rest of your barely literate dittohead FOX crowd.

Just more proof that George and Weezy Jefferson occupy the White House. Movin’ on up!

TillieGlockenspiel said:
Hysterical!

another who hasn’t ever heard a common album

TillieGlockenspiel said:
What’s with the new “conscious” meme? Sheryl Crow just used the word to describe 0bama. I know it’s the latest psuedo-post-hippie compliment, but it sounds to me like they’re just glad that he’s not UN-”conscious.” Quick someone, engage your “inner child” and spout EST dialogue!

Conscious, with a capital “C”……look it up, it’s a style of hip-hop

idesign said:
Van Jones’s homeys, no doubt. Thugocracy, indeed.

Thug, that’s a simple monosyllabic word for simple monosyllabic people. Honestly, all I knew about Common was his role in a couple of movies. You have got to be so damned petty to make a fuss over this nonsense.

Mrs. Americana tweets to the thuggish skank in the White House.
Libtards, Commies and black gangstas heads will explode.
Sarah: Make sure you get 24-hour security because Obama and the first Mrs. Skank will probably put a hit out on you.

So let me get this right?

I could make a rap about wanting to kill President Obama and then the following election be invited to a poetry reading hosted by the WH? Wowsa.

But roughly half-a-yea­r ago, Fox News had a different tone about Common. In an October 2010 report for FoxNews.co­m, reporter Jason Robinson interviewe­d the “rap legend” and told him, “your music is very positive. And you’re known as the conscious rapper. How important is that to you, and how important do you think that is to our kids?”

http://med­iamatters.­org/blog/2­0110510001­8
http://www­.newshound­s.us/2011/­05/10/fox_­news_was_f­or_the_rap­per_common­_before_it­_was_again­st_him.php

Harry Flashman said:
The unsteady roxsteady said:

.” I guess Rush and many of you lemmings here were wrong about Trump beating this President even with this tough economy. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?”

Actually what I said here on this site was that Trump’s numbers were artrificial and temporary and would soon wane when other, less colorful candidates came on the scene. So did other people.

But here’s a news flash…..Obama sucks at his job in a big way. His bin Laden bump in numbers is as temporary as Trump’s. Don’t get used to gloating, roxsteady. The bloom will be off that rose soon enough.

You may now continue with your regularly scheduled nastiness and insults.

I always love the people who are nasty and petty yet have the gall to complain about that trait in others! Getting back to the point she made, Rush was wrong on Trump and many people here agreed with him. So why don’t you show some integrity and give her credit for that!

Hey jakester does George Soros pay you minimum wage by the hour for your indescribably talents or ten cents for each dumb statement you post here.

Your penchant for ridicule and name calling sounds like it comes right Alinksy or possibly from the hood, but keep up your negativity it suits you well.

idesign said:
Mrs. Americana tweets to the thuggish skank in the White House.
Libtards, Commies and black gangstas heads will explode.
Sarah: Make sure you get 24-hour security because Obama and the first Mrs. Skank will probably put a hit out on you.

Got any more barely literate paranoid teabagging nonsense you want to share? If you think Palin is even going to get the nomination, then you are even a bigger fool than I last gave you credit for. Obama is putting hits out on Palin, just how stupid can you get?

back in 2003, First Lady Laura Bush held a poetry evening, and she invited several poets to reprise the work of Emily Dickinson, Langston Hughes and Walt Whitman. Although none of those poets had urged violence against a president, Bush canceled the event after left-of-center poets protested and threatened to disrupt the event.

(daily caller)

Here are some of Common’s greatest hits:

In fact, Common rapped at the 2008 New Year celebration at Wright’s church. “I’m gonna let you know / No people want drama / We gonna vote for my man / What’s his name? Obama … Revolution is here,” he sang, and the Rev. Wright danced in the background. …

“Flyer say Free Mumia on my freezer,” he raps in another. Mumia Abu-Jamal is an incarcerated former member of the Black Panther Party who was convicted in 1981 for killing a Philadelphia police officer. …

Common has also been a vocal opponent of mixed race relationships and believes black men and white women should not date. In one rap he says, “I don’t know what it is / but white girls gettin’ ass / I know what it is / It’s cash.”

TerryDo said:
Hey jakester does George Soros pay you minimum wage by the hour for your indescribably talents or ten cents for each dumb statement you post here.

Your penchant for ridicule and name calling sounds like it comes right Alinksy or possibly from the hood, but keep up your negativity it suits you well.

if you are going to babble about my nonexistent connection to Soros and Alinsky as well as the rest of your red baiting teabagging nonsense, I will gladly point out what a paranoid right wing moron you are.

meena140 said:
But roughly half-a-yea­r ago, Fox News had a different tone about Common. In an October 2010 report for FoxNews.co­m, reporter Jason Robinson interviewe­d the “rap legend” and told him, “your music is very positive. And you’re known as the conscious rapper. How important is that to you, and how important do you think that is to our kids?”

http://med­iamatters.­org/blog/2­0110510001­8
http://www­.newshound­s.us/2011/­05/10/fox_­news_was_f­or_the_rap­per_common­_before_it­_was_again­st_him.php

But that was before the FOX-niks could tie him directly to Obama so they could toss their rabid moron fans their daily red meat.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
The 0bamas have no sense of propriety and are an embarrassment to the nation. “Common” is the perfect name.

Just like Coo Coo clock is the perfect name for you, that you picked yourself no less.

Pablo said:
Can you imagine the hateful little mutant spawn that would produce? Like Chucky, only uglier.

Still not approaching the level of the mutant trash your parents produced.

So the left didn’t allow a reading of Emily Dickinson yet you don’t see a disconnect with Common?

Funny how the left’s double standards just jump right out at you (if you know the facts) and funny how mediaite just doesn’t bother to report that the WH poetrywas SHUT DOWN by the liberal lefty loons, but now, if you raise an eyebrow about some vile rapper – what’s next – MSNBC gonna call Sarah a racist?

Oh boy, chalk another one up to blatant double standards.

bwahahahaha

It is just so humorous to watch it all.

seek said:
So the left didn’t allow a reading of Emily Dickinson yet you don’t see a disconnect with Common?

I don’t know anything about that episode, but it would seem the people the Bush’s were going to invite were the ones who were planning to make the fuss? Maybe the Bush’s should have invited some more accommodating poets you think? Heck I would have went for a chance to shake hands, get a four star meal and steal a couple souvenirs. At best, your point goes under the “two wrongs don’t make a right” sub-heading.

TfT said:
Funny how the left’s double standards just jump right out at you (if you know the facts) and funny how mediaite just doesn’t bother to report that the WH poetrywas SHUT DOWN by the liberal lefty loons, but now, if you raise an eyebrow about some vile rapper – what’s next – MSNBC gonna call Sarah a racist?

Oh boy, chalk another one up to blatant double standards.

bwahahahaha

It is just so humorous to watch it all.

Nobody shut it down, Bush could have simply invited someone else. My guess is that they really didn’t want to go through with it so they cooked up an excuse to cop out and blame those evil leftists. Nor was MSNBC doing what FOX is doing now, whipping up their mutts.

If a White person were to write a poem about hanging Obama, they’d get at least two years in jail.
But if a Black guy writes a poem about burning a White President, he gets a White House invitation from Michelle Obama.
That is all.

OxyCon said:
If a White person were to write a poem about hanging Obama, they’d get at least two years in jail.
But if a Black guy writes a poem about burning a White President, he gets a White House invitation from Michelle Obama.
That is all.

do white ppl have a history of institutionalized lynching done to them…just cus theyr white…?

OxyCon said:
If a White person were to write a poem about hanging Obama, they’d get at least two years in jail.
But if a Black guy writes a poem about burning a White President, he gets a White House invitation from Michelle Obama.
That is all.

‘Burning Bush’ comment draws prison term
Man plans to appeal

CNN 12/06/02

Original Link: http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/12/06/burning.bush.ap (Removed from CNN website)

SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota (AP) — A man who made a remark about a “burning Bush” during the president’s March 2001 trip to Sioux Falls was sentenced Friday to 37 months in prison.

Richard Humphreys of Portland, Oregon was convicted in September of threatening to kill or harm the president and said he plans to appeal. He has said the comment was a prophecy protected under his right to free speech.

Humphreys said he got into a barroom discussion in nearby Watertown with a truck driver. A bartender who overheard the conversation realized the president was to visit Sioux Falls the next day and told police Humphreys talked about a “burning Bush” and the possibility of someone pouring a flammable liquid on Bush and lighting it.

“I said God might speak to the world through a burning Bush,” Humphreys testified during his trial. “I had said that before and I thought it was funny.”

Anybody under the age 30 knows Common is the least violent of the rappers out there. Kinda amused by this fake controversy.

Hey Palin…. Your daughters probably have Tupac, Dr. Dre, and other rappers who talk about violence on their iPod. Conservatives think their kids only listen nice Christian music. haha.

Oh my, the rapper Common threatened to burn President Bush, he must be positively worried…..not.

It’s a song and not a very good one at that. Good lord people, is this really worth anyone’s time? Oh crap, they got me.

Common is the Wayne Brady of rap.

CAINtheBULL said:
Anybody under the age 30 knows Common is the least violent of the rappers out there. Kinda amused by this fake controversy.

Hey Palin…. Your daughters probably have Tupac, Dr. Dre, and other rappers who talk about violence on their iPod. Conservatives think their kids only listen nice Christian music. haha.

No – sorry. Conservative parents don’t fit into your demographics of stereotyping.

Try again.

jakester says:

May 10, 2011 at 5:31 pm (Quote)

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TerryDo said:
Hey jakester does George Soros pay you minimum wage by the hour for your indescribably talents or ten cents for each dumb statement you post here.

Your penchant for ridicule and name calling sounds like it comes right Alinksy or possibly from the hood, but keep up your negativity it suits you well.
******************
if you are going to babble about my nonexistent connection to Soros and Alinsky as well as the rest of your red baiting teabagging nonsense, I will gladly point out what a paranoid right wing moron you are.

************
See that jakester, ridicule right out the box, “teabagging”, OH!!!! Like as if, a homosexual act which you Progressives are oh so familiar with, would shock me or anyone else.

What is moronic is that you are acting as if you are holding court and you are the only defender of your point of view, so sad really.
Time for a tea break I believe you may be due!

Sarah Palin should worry about keeping Jeremy Murdoch out of her house. After all, he did kill three innocents in cold blood.

A.R. says:
do white ppl have a history of institutionalized lynching done to them…just cus theyr white…?

********

Well apparently A.R. they were lynched…….. just cus theyr Italians.

After their increased immigration to the US in the late 19th century, Italian Americans also became lynching targets, chiefly in the South, where they were recruited for laboring jobs. On March 14, 1891, eleven Italian Americans were lynched in New Orleans after a jury acquitted them in the murder of David Hennessy, an ethnic Irish New Orleans police chief.[20]

The eleven were falsely accused of being associated with the Mafia. This incident was one of the largest mass lynchings in U.S. history.[21] A total of twenty Italians were lynched in the 1890s.

Although most lynchings of Italian Americans occurred in the South, Italians had not immigrated there in great numbers. Isolated lynchings of Italians also occurred in New York, Pennsylvania, and Colorado.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States?oldid=0

Sarah Palin had Hank Williams Jr. campaign with them in 2008. Hank has a song talking about robbing a bank and killing a cop, he must be a “gangster”!

“So I robbed a liquor store with my daddy’s army gun.
Had to shoot a cop coming out the door,”

Sarah must repudiate Hank now!!!! LOL

“Pick up Trump’s strange habit of feuding with celebrities?”

Palin’s been doing it for three years now. Anything to earn a headline. The woman is a raw nerve that jerks reflexively whenever a gentle breeze blows by..

Commons is likely smart enough to know that Fox and Palin aren’t fans because, well, he’s black and he’s telling the story of urban blacks. White privilege doesn’t want to hear that… and when it does, it deems its frustration and anger “vile.”

Meanwhile, the GOP won’t honor the Navy SEALS who kills bin Laden, cuz it’s just soooo over honoring the military, don’tcha know.

Who’s “vile?”

Oh yeah! Queen Moron flaps the pie hole again. She never ceases to amaze some of us. The woman with such high morals needs to shut up and pay attention to the next move by her lowlife daughter. Guess it is just so good she had another excuse to ignore that. Does she forget some of the filthy language on facebook by her other daughter. People that live in glass houses need not be throwing stones. This clown deserves no respect.

CAINtheBULL said:
Anybody under the age 30 knows Common is the least violent of the rappers out there. Kinda amused by this fake controversy.

Hey Palin…. Your daughters probably have Tupac, Dr. Dre, and other rappers who talk about violence on their iPod. Conservatives think their kids only listen nice Christian music. haha.

They obviously have never listened to the classic “I Used To Love H.E.R” where he was attacking guys like Cube for his misogny and “violent” lyrics. FLOTUS didn’t invite Ice Cube. By the way, are cons this slow? Do they not realize that he has participated in WH events before? He was there during the lighting of the Christmas tree. Common is invited because he’s a big Chicago icon especially in the HipHop world. I hope the WH does not pull his invite.They need to realize these knuckle-dragging teatards will never approve of ANYONE they invite since their beef is not really with the invitee but the inviter.

As a fan of this particular rapper I can tell you that you have to go through a lot of shit to have found something like this. I can literally say that Be and Finding Forever changed my perception of life. Common is most definitely not “vile” or even gangster rap like they try to portray him as. If you want vile I could provide a whole list starting with Lil Wayne, but Common? Come on now!

Liberal Tormentor said:
I believe he was also a member of Rev. Wright congregation. Ah the people the Obama’s CHOOSE to surround themselves with. It speaks volumes.

Have you ever actually listened to the majority of his music?

A suggested track for Palin, listen to Common’s “The Light.” That is the kind of rapper he is. I can bet your ass she has never listened to even one song of his before she started flapping her gums. God…I wish Tupac was still alive.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
As a fan of this particular rapper I can tell you that you have to go through a lot of shit to have found something like this. I can literally say that Be and Finding Forever changed my perception of life. Common is most definitely not “vile” or even gangster rap like they try to portray him as. If you want vile I could provide a whole list starting with Lil Wayne, but Common? Come on now!

Rap should just go period. The end.

WCinWI said:
Rap should just go period. The end.

Why? What makes rap a less viable genre? Lack of live band? Then listen to Distant Relatives by Nas and Damian Marley! Or is it just the age old standard that everything black people make is somehow less respectable? And please try to tell me that’s not the case because I have a bunch of Eminem and Vanilla Ice stuff waiting on you.

WCinWI said:
Rap should just go period. The end.

You’re also making a very poor case for your “I’m not notsofast” thing.

TerryDo said:
A.R. says:
do white ppl have a history of institutionalized lynching done to them…just cus theyr white…?

********

Well apparently A.R. they were lynched…….. just cus theyr Italians.

After their increased immigration to the US in the late 19th century, Italian Americans also became lynching targets, chiefly in the South, where they were recruited for laboring jobs. On March 14, 1891, eleven Italian Americans were lynched in New Orleans after a jury acquitted them in the murder of David Hennessy, an ethnic Irish New Orleans police chief.[20]

The eleven were falsely accused of being associated with the Mafia. This incident was one of the largest mass lynchings in U.S. history.[21] A total of twenty Italians were lynched in the 1890s.

Although most lynchings of Italian Americans occurred in the South, Italians had not immigrated there in great numbers. Isolated lynchings of Italians also occurred in New York, Pennsylvania, and Colorado.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States?oldid=0

My white great grandmother was murdered and the white man who murdered her was very nearly lynched. The only thing that saved him was the police got a five minute advanced notice that a lynch mob was on its way to the jailhouse to get him. White people were lynched all the time. But the only lynchings we ever hear about are blacks and one jew who was probably guilty.

I mean for God’s sake the man performed on a f*cking Jonas Brothers song.

I think it was Frank Zappa who described most rock lyrics as doggeral; the same could certainly be said of rap. Do people read great poets any more? Go read Ode on a Grecian Urn and compare it to the rap lyrics that now pass as poetry these days. Good grief, Is there any comparison?

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
You’re also making a very poor case for your “I’m not notsofast” thing.

Since no case exists, your point is moot. :)

Maybe if I started adding son after everything, but sorry I couldn’t be that funny.

WCinWI said:
Since no case exists, your point is moot. :)

Maybe if I started adding son after everything, but sorry I couldn’t be that funny.

Unfortunately I won’t allow you to take this convo off topic. Respond to the first post or admit your bullshit.

Sean68 said:
I think it was Frank Zappa who described most rock lyrics as doggeral; the same could certainly be said of rap. Do people read great poets any more? Go read Ode on a Grecian Urn and compare it to the rap lyrics that now pass as poetry these days. Good grief, Is there any comparison?

I’m sure the negative rating this comment elicited was for the obvious reason that comparing anything to OOAGU is unfair; it is a poem, as Faulkner once famously observed, worth a great many (dead) old ladies.

WCinWI said:
Rap should just go period. The end.

STFU & GTFO. By the way, rap is not HipHop.

BTW, Rap=/=HipHop. Just thought you should know that little nugget.

Sean68 said:
My white great grandmother was murdered and the white man who murdered her was very nearly lynched. The only thing that saved him was the police got a five minute advanced notice that a lynch mob was on its way to the jailhouse to get him. White people were lynched all the time. But the only lynchings we ever hear about are blacks and one jew who was probably guilty.

While not downplaying the tragedy, your moral equivalence is nauseating. Maybe I should remind you of what happened ALL THE TIME especially in the American south to blacks just because of the color of their skin.
http://thepirata.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/lynching-of-young-blacks.jpg

White abolitionists and civil rights fighters suffered the same fate as their black compatriots. This was reported and is widely known. Mississippi burning anyone?

Gasket said:
STFU & GTFO. By the way, rap is not HipHop.

BTW, Rap=/=HipHop. Just thought you should know that little nugget.

While not downplaying the tragedy, your moral equivalence is nauseating. Maybe I should remind you of what happened ALL THE TIME especially in the American south to blacks just because of the color of their skin.
http://thepirata.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/lynching-of-young-blacks.jpg

Oh, I’ve never seen those pictures before. P.S. F you.

Gasket said:
STFU & GTFO. By the way, rap is not HipHop.

BTW, Rap=/=HipHop. Just thought you should know that little nugget.

While not downplaying the tragedy, your moral equivalence is nauseating. Maybe I should remind you of what happened ALL THE TIME especially in the American south to blacks just because of the color of their skin.
http://thepirata.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/lynching-of-young-blacks.jpg

By the way, in that particular picture, those two men were guilty of rape and murder. You should investigate the subject a little. I’m not in favor of mob justice, but those two guys were not lynched solely because of the color of their skin. The BBC profiled one of their friends who almost participated in the robbery but cut out when he recognized the man they were going to rob.

OxyCon said:
If a White person were to write a poem about hanging Obama, they’d get at least two years in jail.
But if a Black guy writes a poem about burning a White President, he gets a White House invitation from Michelle Obama.
That is all.

That is a complete lie! Got any more right wing garbage you want to litter the board with?

TerryDo said:
jakester says:

May 10, 2011 at 5:31 pm (Quote)

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TerryDo said:
Hey jakester does George Soros pay you minimum wage by the hour for your indescribably talents or ten cents for each dumb statement you post here.

Your penchant for ridicule and name calling sounds like it comes right Alinksy or possibly from the hood, but keep up your negativity it suits you well.
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if you are going to babble about my nonexistent connection to Soros and Alinsky as well as the rest of your red baiting teabagging nonsense, I will gladly point out what a paranoid right wing moron you are.

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See that jakester, ridicule right out the box, “teabagging”, OH!!!! Like as if, a homosexual act which you Progressives are oh so familiar with, would shock me or anyone else.

What is moronic is that you are acting as if you are holding court and you are the only defender of your point of view, so sad really.
Time for a tea break I believe you may be due!

Funny how you are fixated on homosexual acts and progressives, maybe you spend too much time listening to Beck? To be honest, the first time that I heard the word teabagging, it was about those right wing reactionaries, the same ones who loved Bush to death for 8 years, who started dressing up in their phony 1770s outfits and channeling the founding fathers. I always figured they were basically morons, since they pretended they were so versed in history, they should have realized that teabags weren’t around back then. So like Mrs Coo Coo Clock (Glockenspiel), here, they should have done some research on the term teabagging before they came up with the idea of telling their saps to “teabag”, or mail teabags, to their congressmen.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Unfortunately I won’t allow you to take this convo off topic. Respond to the first post or admit your bullshit.

I appreciate Eminem but no I don’t think that Rap or Hip Hop adds much to teaching future kids a viable future that isn’t saying words at a fast pace.

Last I checked, Eminem was White so this whole White vs. Black thing should really stop. Stop putting everyone into a demographic.

Now that you’ve sworn, I’m done talking to you. Carry on.

Sean68 said:
Oh, I’ve never seen those pictures before. P.S. F you.

Mature are we? I figured you needed a reminder on how inappropriate your analogy was. It was an ad misericordiam tactic but, I didn’t buy it.

Sean68 said:
By the way, in that particular picture, those two men were guilty of rape and murder. You should investigate the subject a little. I’m not in favor of mob justice, but those two guys were not lynched solely because of the color of their skin. The BBC profiled one of their friends who almost participated in the robbery but cut out when he recognized the man they were going to rob.

Genius, I was providing you with the imagery to conjure up emotion — which succeeded, apparently, with your expletive-laden response resembling that of a petulant child. *snickers* I was not providing you with a specific case example. I just googled the first picture I found of ni99ers hanging off a tree which took me two long seconds to dig up. If you want, I can actually dig you up 10 examples of blacks been lynched/hanged for ……being black. Just let me know sweetheart! In the mean time, Tootles.

WCinWI said:
I appreciate Eminem but no I don’t think that Rap or Hip Hop adds much to teaching future kids a viable future that isn’t saying words at a fast pace.

Last I checked, Eminem was White so this whole White vs. Black thing should really stop. Stop putting everyone into a demographic.

Now that you’ve sworn, I’m done talking to you. Carry on.

WCinWI said:
I appreciate Eminem but no I don’t think that Rap or Hip Hop adds much to teaching future kids a viable future that isn’t saying words at a fast pace.

Last I checked, Eminem was White so this whole White vs. Black thing should really stop. Stop putting everyone into a demographic.

Now that you’ve sworn, I’m done talking to you. Carry on.

*swore

Gasket said:
Mature are we? I figured you needed a reminder on how inappropriate your analogy was. It was an ad misericordiam tactic but, I didn’t buy it.

Genius, I was providing you with the imagery to conjure up emotion — which succeeded, apparently, with your expletive-laden response resembling that of a petulant child. *snickers* I was not providing you with a specific case example. I just googled the first picture I found of ni99ers hanging off a tree which took me two long seconds to dig up. If you want, I can actually dig you up 10 examples of blacks been lynched/hanged for ……being black. Just let me know sweetheart! In the mean time, Tootles.

But can’t you understand that you made my point for me? The first example you picked–a rather famous photo– showed two murderers hanging. I may shed a tear for the rule of law, but not for those two pieces of shit.

We’ve been bludgeoned in this country with images of blacks hanging from trees. Images of whites hanging from trees–of which too there were thousands–not so much. It’s politics. And blacks have gotten plenty of revenge over the past several decades with their rape and murder rates.

jakester said:
I don’t know anything about that episode, but it would seem the people the Bush’s were going to invite were the ones who were planning to make the fuss? Maybe the Bush’s should have invited some more accommodating poets you think? Heck I would have went for a chance to shake hands, get a four star meal and steal a couple souvenirs. At best, your point goes under the “two wrongs don’t make a right” sub-heading.

what are you talking about? How the hell you can turn a news item upside down to suit your agenda is beyond me. Reading comprehension wasn’t your strong suit?

WCinWI said:
*swore

HipHop is not a university or college. First and foremost, it’s entertainment and a way of life. When you go to watch a movie, you expect to be entertained. The same thing applies to HipHop music and artists. They are ARTISTS. They act, the part. I don’t think anyone was picketing Schwarzenegger or Vin Diesel for shooting at cops in their movies. Why judge other artists for doing the same thing in a different medium? If you don’t like the content, don’t listen to it. If you can learn anything while engaged in it, then good. There are different types of HipHop artists. Honestly, if one doesn’t even know what HipHop entails, they really shouldn’t comment on this particular genre. Eminem is a potent MC, IMO, the best MC this past decade, but, he’s not in the same category as Common. Em is more of a battle MC, a shock-jock, clowning MC while guys like Common, Mos def, Talib Kweli, Dead Prez, Nas are/were more like “social commentary” MCs. they will approach the issues differently. Then there are other rappers who are just complete garbage (rap about vacuous topics) and actually give the wrong idea of what the actual INTENT of HipHop. These people are just in it to make money and could give 2-shits about the elements of HipHop.

Sean68 said:
But can’t you understand that you made my point for me? The first example you picked–a rather famous photo– showed two murderers hanging. I may shed a tear for the rule of law, but not for those two pieces of shit.

We’ve been bludgeoned in this country with images of blacks hanging from trees. Images of whites hanging from trees–of which too there were thousands–not so much. It’s politics. And blacks have gotten plenty of revenge over the past several decades with their rape and murder rates.

Revenge on whites? Last I checked, the biggest victims of black violence was other blacks.

Gasket said:
Revenge on whites? Last I checked, the biggest victims of black violence was other blacks.

That;s what’s called a non-sequitur. Nevertheless, blacks commit a large amount of violence against whites. Do you disagree with that assertion?

O.K. so you’ve got nothing but garbage!

The points – Common the asshole said horrible things
Common the asshole – invited to White House
We are supposed to turn a blind eye to the “characters” that the Obama’s let into OUR house because of horrible events from the past. So, in other words – we are not allowed to voice our objection that in the here and now – we would rather the Government not recognize a vile tasteless individual.
We understand that Obama and his lovely little Mrs. can invite who the hell they want once they are out of the White House and in their own home
This divisive President would no more uninvited Common than fly to the moon. Couldn’t give a flying crap about our sensibilities.
Bush’s had an evening of reading of 3 famous authors – the idiots not invited were going to stage a rally outside protesting the fact that they didn’t get an invite and hated some of the readers.
Bush – decided that it was better to not hold the event in order to keep the peace.

Once more – the right acts like gentlemen, the left like freaking thugs.

Gasket said:
HipHop is not a university or college. First and foremost, it’s entertainment and a way of life. When you go to watch a movie, you expect to be entertained. The same thing applies to HipHop music and artists. They are ARTISTS. They act, the part. I don’t think anyone was picketing Schwarzenegger or Vin Diesel for shooting at cops in their movies. Why judge other artists for doing the same thing in a different medium? If you don’t like the content, don’t listen to it. If you can learn anything while engaged in it, then good. There are different types of HipHop artists. Honestly, if one doesn’t even know what HipHop entails, they really shouldn’t comment on this particular genre. Eminem is a potent MC, IMO, the best MC this past decade, but, he’s not in the same category as Common. Em is more of a battle MC, a shock-jock, clowning MC while guys like Common, Mos def, Talib Kweli, Dead Prez, Nas are/were more like “social commentary” MCs. they will approach the issues differently. Then there are other rappers who are just complete garbage (rap about vacuous topics) and actually give the wrong idea of what the actual INTENT of HipHop. These people are just in it to make money and could give 2-shits about the elements of HipHop.

Oh yeah, you’re the guy who thinks Ice Cube was voicing a character when he wrote “Cave Bitch.” Now that I think about it, I am not the least bit surprised you were stupid enough to reveal where you live.

“not even casual hip hop fans would characterize Common as a controversial rapper.”

WTF ?

A “casual hip hop fan” would be exactly the kind of fan to not know of the vile crap this POS would spout in a rap.
They wouldn’t know!

What a fusktard the author of this article is!

Palin 57 WH Zero

jakester said:
I don’t know anything about that episode, but it would seem the people the Bush’s were going to invite were the ones who were planning to make the fuss? Maybe the Bush’s should have invited some more accommodating poets you think? Heck I would have went for a chance to shake hands, get a four star meal and steal a couple souvenirs. At best, your point goes under the “two wrongs don’t make a right” sub-heading.

Ahh, yes, “would have went”- not a native English speaker, are you?

seek said:
O.K. so you’ve got nothing but garbage!

The points – Common the asshole said horrible things
Common the asshole – invited to White House
We are supposed to turn a blind eye to the “characters” that the Obama’s let into OUR house because of horrible events from the past. So, in other words – we are not allowed to voice our objection that in the here and now – we would rather the Government not recognize a vile tasteless individual.
We understand that Obama and his lovely little Mrs. can invite who the hell they want once they are out of the White House and in their own home
This divisive President would no more uninvited Common than fly to the moon. Couldn’t give a flying crap about our sensibilities.
Bush’s had an evening of reading of 3 famous authors – the idiots not invited were going to stage a rally outside protesting the fact that they didn’t get an invite and hated some of the readers.
Bush – decided that it was better to not hold the event in order to keep the peace.

Once more – the right acts like gentlemen, the left like freaking thugs.

I just hope we have a good household inventory that can be checked in January of 2013!

WCinWI said:
I appreciate Eminem

Now that you’ve sworn, I’m done talking to you

lol…you appreciate Eminem but can’t abide swearing. Hilarious.

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The problem with “hip hop” is that its underlying aesthetics are just plain ugly. It can be used to perpetuate violence and ridicule and even humor and happiness, but how does it express the beautiful or ineffable? I suppose one could argue that the genre’s creators come from bleek backgrounds (due to white racism, of course) lacks beauty so what should one expect their art to look like.

Sean68 said:
That;s what’s called a non-sequitur. Nevertheless, blacks commit a large amount of violence against whites. Do you disagree with that assertion?

I don’t disagree with that latter fact, but, I disagree with the earlier premise connecting the intent of the violence (by blacks against whites) to race. This is not comparable to the intentional targetting of black victims by racist whites during Jim Crow. That was the only reason you used the word “revenge” in your paragraph — unless there was some equivocation going on there by you. It’s fallacious. There is a higher number of white victims because…errr..there is a bigger demo of whites in the USA today than blacks or any other race. It’s a case of probability. If I had a sack full of marbles and 70% were white, 14% were black, and the other % consisted of an assortment of colors, if I randomly picked a marble from that sack — most likely than not it will be white. Same case with victimology here. It doesn’t mean that the victims are being targetted because they are white.Criminals are opportunistic…generally. Correct facts. Wrong conclusion.

Sean68 said:
Oh yeah, you’re the guy who thinks Ice Cube was voicing a character when he wrote “Cave Bitch.” Now that I think about it, I am not the least bit surprised you were stupid enough to reveal where you live.

You were the person who claimed Ice Cube was a racist, then, used the lyrics of a song he wrote to “prove” your case. It was a dumb argument and you never ever proved your case. Don’t get flippant when you present vacuous arguments and are challenged on them, sweetheart. Consider it a favor. I’m saving you from an imminent beatdown in case you had the brilliant idea to make these idiotic utterances in public.

Gasket said:
I don’t disagree with that latter fact, but, I disagree with the earlier premise connecting the intent of the violence (by blacks against whites) to race. This is not comparable to the intentional targetting of black victims by racist whites during Jim Crow. That was the only reason you used the word “revenge” in your paragraph — unless there was some equivocation going on there by you. It’s fallacious. There is a higher number of white victims because…errr..there is a bigger demo of whites in the USA today than blacks or any other race. It’s a case of probability. If I had a sack full of marbles and 70% were white, 14% were black, and the other % consisted of an assortment of colors, if I randomly picked a marble from that sack — most likely than not it will be white. Same case with victimology here. It doesn’t mean that the victims are being targetted because they are white.Criminals are opportunistic…generally. Correct facts. Wrong conclusion.

That;s Tim Wise’s argument. It;s not persuasive.

Gasket said:
You were the person who claimed Ice Cube was a racist, then, used the lyrics of a song he wrote to “prove” your case. It was a dumb argument and you never ever proved your case. Don’t get flippant when you present vacuous arguments and are challenged on them, sweetheart. Consider it a favor. I’m saving you from an imminent beatdown in case you had the brilliant idea to make these idiotic utterances in public.

Ice Cube is a racist because he writes songs that contain racist sentiments. Awaiting the beatdown.

Gasket said:
You were the person who claimed Ice Cube was a racist, then, used the lyrics of a song he wrote to “prove” your case. It was a dumb argument and you never ever proved your case. Don’t get flippant when you present vacuous arguments and are challenged on them, sweetheart. Consider it a favor. I’m saving you from an imminent beatdown in case you had the brilliant idea to make these idiotic utterances in public.

I’m going to run to the store right now to buy a bottle of wine that probably costs half what your monthly mortage is. By the way, can we expect anymore indications of your intellectual superiority tonight, like, say publishing your work address? Of course that last quip assumes you have a job.

Sean68 said:
That;s Tim Wise’s argument. It;s not persuasive.

I’m sure you don’t understand the problem with this argument. I’ll explain it to you when I get back.

Sean68 said:
The problem with “hip hop” is that its underlying aesthetics are just plain ugly. It can be used to perpetuate violence and ridicule and even humor and happiness, but how does it express the beautiful or ineffable? I suppose one could argue that the genre’s creators come from bleek backgrounds (due to white racism, of course) lacks beauty so what should one expect their art to look like.

Oh come on, while I agree that most of rap is crap, rock is not all that much better. And if Common put out a couple songs that mirrored some of the negativity of the gangster rap of that day, I doubt he was doing it for anything more than cashing in. After all, rap is one genre of music where selling out and cashing in are really the ultimate values that are consistently upheld.

Does every visitor to the White House now have to pass some sort of Pat Boone test before the FoxNation mutts stop yapping?

If his poetry is studied in universities, why not invite him to the WH ? What is the big deal ? I mean, it is just the WH. Even the Salahis have been there.

This is such a shocking story, because successful black artists are usually so well received by conservatives.

Scared conservative white people. That’s all this is. Scary black man!

seek said:
what are you talking about? How the hell you can turn a news item upside down to suit your agenda is beyond me. Reading comprehension wasn’t your strong suit?

I didn’t read it because it was irrelevant. I hadn’t even heard of that event and honestly could care less about the idiots who were planning a protest over something like that. Not only are you an extremely petty person for whining about such a trivial event as this Common thing, but you missed my point entirely which is common for petty minds. In that if you think it was wrong to protest that thing, then whining about this sort of triviality is just as bad. TWO WRONGS != ONE RIGHT, GOT IT???
Finally, I really doubt that if there was going to be a protest, it would have been much of one. You are a total sap for buying into that twit Tucker Carlson’s bs.

Sean68 said:
The problem with “hip hop” is that its underlying aesthetics are just plain ugly. It can be used to perpetuate violence and ridicule and even humor and happiness, but how does it express the beautiful or ineffable.

You don’t listen to a lot of hip-hop do you? You sound like a dad from the 60′s who’s only heard Sabbath and assumes all rock music is dangerous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1CaN4thI5w

seek said:
back in 2003, First Lady Laura Bush held a poetry evening, and she invited several poets to reprise the work of Emily Dickinson, Langston Hughes and Walt Whitman. Although none of those poets had urged violence against a president, Bush canceled the event after left-of-center poets protested and threatened to disrupt the event.

(daily caller)

All that proves is that Bush is weak and shallow. What, a few people holding picket signs on Pennsylvania Avenue going to knock the White House over? The White House is locked down tight these days as back then. I really doubt anything bad would have happened, so spare me your paranoia. Either Bush is a total coward or he didn’t care and wanted to cancel it anyways then place the blame on the “LEFT”; so his moron base can have yet another reason to get outraged!

Raygun said:
You don’t listen to a lot of hip-hop do you? You sound like a dad from the 60’s who’s only heard Sabbath and assumes all rock music is dangerous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1CaN4thI5w

I made a statement that hip hop is not a particularly useful vehicle for expressing the beautiful or ineffable. Rather than calling me an old fogey, why not simply contradict what I said by providing an example that you think refutes my argument. At the very least, give me an example of something beautiful or profound.

Sean68 said:
I made a statement that hip hop is not a particularly useful vehicle for expressing the beautiful or ineffable. Rather than calling me an old fogey, why not simply contradict what I said by providing an example that you think refutes my argument. At the very least, give me an example of something beautiful or profound.

I thought that link was going to be to some funny video of some out-of-it old white guy. BTW, I bought three feet high and rising when it came out, way back in 1988. As hip hop goes, its pretty good. But it isn;t beautiful or profound. Is that what you were thinking?

CAINtheBULL said:
Scared conservative white people. That’s all this is. Scary black man!

Yes. With their heathenous jungle rhythms. It’s the soundtrack we hear when we imagine they’re coming for our daughters. Is that the joke?

Raygun said:
This is such a shocking story, because successful black artists are usually so well received by conservatives.

Because they’re racists.

Palin just wants some attention!

jakester said:
Oh come on, while I agree that most of rap is crap, rock is not all that much better. And if Common put out a couple songs that mirrored some of the negativity of the gangster rap of that day, I doubt he was doing it for anything more than cashing in. After all, rap is one genre of music where selling out and cashing in are really the ultimate values that are consistently upheld.

Does every visitor to the White House now have to pass some sort of Pat Boone test before the FoxNation mutts stop yapping?

The problem with criticism of rap music–and by criticism, I mean that which is written by professional critics of the genre–is that so much of it is written by people who are easily impressed by the shallow political pretentions of its practitioners. White critics are particulary vulnerable here.

Sean68 said:
The problem with criticism of rap music–and by criticism, I mean that which is written by professional critics of the genre–is that so much of it is written by people who are easily impressed by the shallow political pretentions of its practitioners. White critics are particulary vulnerable here.

You are the biggest racist on this site and that is why you only show up in race threads.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
You are the biggest racist on this site and that is why you only show up in race threads.

What kind of effing retard uses the name of a media figure in his nick? Do you have any kind of life?

Hip Hop, Rap, likely the worst music ever created, but that is beside the point. The clown called for the burning of a President, but all is good. Michelle is onside. White Critics? You really do not need to be a professional critic to hate that shit do you?

Cancon2 said:
Hip Hop, Rap, likely the worst music ever created, but that is beside the point. The clown called for the burning of a President, but all is good. Michelle is onside. White Critics? You really do not need to be a professional critic to hate that shit do you?

There’s always a steady supply of white betas willing to intellectualize black pathology.

I see Sarah Palin is on top of all the important issues concerning our country.

WCinWI said:
I appreciate Eminem but no I don’t think that Rap or Hip Hop adds much to teaching future kids a viable future that isn’t saying words at a fast pace.

Last I checked, Eminem was White so this whole White vs. Black thing should really stop. Stop putting everyone into a demographic.

Now that you’ve sworn, I’m done talking to you. Carry on.

Bullshit excuse from a bullshit artist. Whoops…I swore. Therein lies the problem. Eminem is appreciated and acceptable but Common and Ice Cube aren’t? Eminem talks about killing people and how much he hates the president but he’s not as bad as Common? Why is it that Eminem sells so highly? Why is it that MTV showed NO rap videos before Eminem? You can try to act like race isn’t a factor here, but it is. Even Eminem has admitted that. Listen to his song “White America”. Nothing for a viable future?
“That’s cool as long as he don’t trap crack. Graduate from school but still let his pants sag.”
-Coming Up by Lupe Fiasco
“Yo I figure starting early on the market is key. Little Shaddys still to come for their college degree. Cause I plan on having smart daughters all Harvard M.D.s”
-The Old Prince by Shad K
“I know you work real hard for. Want the double R under your garage door. Appreciate the things you work hard for and count your blessings”
-Count Your Blessings by Nas & Damian Marley
“I’m just on the outside looking in. You should know you don’t want to do life up in the pen.”
-The Game by Young Jeezy
“Be smart, go to school. Become a lawyer or doctor don’t be no f*cking fool.”
-The Game by Young Jeezy
“Two kids from hot sex no protection and people don’t see how aids is affecting them.”
-Misunderstood by Common
“At heaven’s gate screaming lord please let me in or send me back to tell my people to be better men.”
-Misunderstood by Common
“So here goes my single y’all radio needs this! They said you can rap about ANYTHING except for Jesus. That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes, but if I talk about God my record won’t get played.”
-Jesus Walks by Kanye West
“Hope I really get to see 30. Wanna settle down and stop being so flirty.”
-Soundtrack to my life by Kid Cudi
“In my day man I did a little something some. They like how come you don’t rap that? Cause that’s a backtrack and I ain’t tryna backpack. i’m only moving forward homie that’s that.”
-Coming Up by Lupe Fiasco
“Now the poor ku klux man see that we all brothers. Not just cause things the same but cause we like the same color and that’s green.”
-American Terrorist by Lupe Fiasco
Heck, this song alone illustrates the point of conscious hip-hop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71McnVwWPwU
You will undoubtedly miss the point of the song.

It appears that Common cleans up very well- the picture doesn’t show him to be anything too crazy. So the chances are good- as with many artists- that they have a adult versions and the cleaned up versions that WalMart will carry on their shelves. Happens all the time. I seem to recall Jami Fox making a comment about the White House telling him to “keep it clean” so I don’t imagine there will be any kind of an issue. I think Common is a grown man that can understand the decorum needed for a performance in the White House. I think people like Palin and all the rest of those who are making negative comments wouldn’t know who the guy is- they just know he is a black rapper and that makes him bad in their book. They probably don’t know there are “G” rated rappers and even kids who are rappers too. They still can’t get over the fact there is a black family living in the White House and they don’t like that this family has made a real effort to include all kinds of people in this White House- as performers and as guests. Good for the First Lady. It is nice to see something different for a change.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Bullshit excuse from a bullshit artist. Whoops…I swore. Therein lies the problem. Eminem is appreciated and acceptable but Common and Ice Cube aren’t? Eminem talks about killing people and how much he hates the president but he’s not as bad as Common? Why is it that Eminem sells so highly? Why is it that MTV showed NO rap videos before Eminem? You can try to act like race isn’t a factor here, but it is. Even Eminem has admitted that. Listen to his song “White America”. Nothing for a viable future?
“That’s cool as long as he don’t trap crack. Graduate from school but still let his pants sag.”
-Coming Up by Lupe Fiasco
“Yo I figure starting early on the market is key. Little Shaddys still to come for their college degree. Cause I plan on having smart daughters all Harvard M.D.s”
-The Old Prince by Shad K
“I know you work real hard for. Want the double R under your garage door. Appreciate the things you work hard for and count your blessings”
-Count Your Blessings by Nas & Damian Marley
“I’m just on the outside looking in. You should know you don’t want to do life up in the pen.”
-The Game by Young Jeezy
“Be smart, go to school. Become a lawyer or doctor don’t be no f*cking fool.”
-The Game by Young Jeezy
“Two kids from hot sex no protection and people don’t see how aids is affecting them.”
-Misunderstood by Common
“At heaven’s gate screaming lord please let me in or send me back to tell my people to be better men.”
-Misunderstood by Common
“So here goes my single y’all radio needs this! They said you can rap about ANYTHING except for Jesus. That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes, but if I talk about God my record won’t get played.”
-Jesus Walks by Kanye West
“Hope I really get to see 30. Wanna settle down and stop being so flirty.”
-Soundtrack to my life by Kid Cudi
“In my day man I did a little something some. They like how come you don’t rap that? Cause that’s a backtrack and I ain’t tryna backpack. i’m only moving forward homie that’s that.”
-Coming Up by Lupe Fiasco
“Now the poor ku klux man see that we all brothers. Not just cause things the same but cause we like the same color and that’s green.”
-American Terrorist by Lupe Fiasco
Heck, this song alone illustrates the point of conscious hip-hop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71McnVwWPwU
You will undoubtedly miss the point of the song.

MTV showed no rap videos before eminem? How old are you?

Sean68 said:
MTV showed no rap videos before eminem? How old are you?

So am I to understand that the only thing you took away from that post was that? Actually it appears I was wrong. Blondie’s Rapture was the first “rap” video on MTV. Speaks volumes, no?

PS, what the hell is a Common? Never heard of the fool. Is this another famous guy that is apparently famous that I have never heard of ,,,, ever… I mean, never once, not on any medium. But, I am sure someone on here will “educate” me on his greatness soon enough. Save it. Was the first choice dead or in jail?

Sarah Palin, failed Alaskan Governor, failed Vice Presidential candidate, failed Presidential candidate, failed parent, killer of juvenile caribou, author of a mediocre ghostwritten book…and now failed music critic.
That is some fine CV the girl has.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
So am I to understand that the only thing you took away from that post was that? Actually it appears I was wrong. Blondie’s Rapture was the first “rap” video on MTV. Speaks volumes, no?

Actually that was the only thing. Was there more? But just to clarify: your arguing that MTV showed no black rap artists between Blondie and Eminemen? You really are black aren’t you?

"Real" American said:
Sarah Palin, failed Alaskan Governor, failed Vice Presidential candidate, failed Presidential candidate, failed parent, killer of juvenile caribou, author of a mediocre ghostwritten book…and now failed music critic.
That is some fine CV the girl has.

Half of the things said in there was unnecessary. Criticize her on her comments fine but lay off the hate.

Sean68 said:
Actually that was the only thing. Was there more? But just to clarify: your arguing that MTV showed no black rap artists between Blondie and Eminemen? You really are black aren’t you?

I’m saying that it’s a problem when the artists which break the barriers for a predominately black industry are white. It’s sad that the same thing that happened with Elvis and hound dog is still happening years later.

Sean68 said:
Actually that was the only thing. Was there more? But just to clarify: your arguing that MTV showed no black rap artists between Blondie and Eminemen? You really are black aren’t you?

Furthermore what’s up with the “you really are black aren’t you?” comment?

"Real" American said:
Sarah Palin, failed Alaskan Governor, failed Vice Presidential candidate, failed Presidential candidate, failed parent, killer of juvenile caribou, author of a mediocre ghostwritten book…and now failed music critic.
That is some fine CV the girl has.

You obviously had nothing of value to offer so you had to do the attack Palin routine. We’ve never heard it before so thanks for your insight. Now, any chance of you staying on the topic of Common, or is that too much to ask?

Palin was just looking for something to make a cause, now that Trump is falling….Also, she has to keep the Palin name in the news to help that daughter keep up with the face reconstruction….Pitiful family, I hope Michelle Obama doesn’t give in to these fools…With all the vile rhetoric the repubs & especially Hannity, Palin, & Limbaugh throw out, now their sensibilies are offended by Common? Please!!!!!

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I’m saying that it’s a problem when the artists which break the barriers for a predominately black industry are white. It’s sad that the same thing that happened with Elvis and hound dog is still happening years later.

Michael Jackson “broke” the racial “barrier” on MTV (the video equivalent of rock radio station) around 1983. As for rap, I don’t remember seeing “Rapture” on MTV, I know there was a video for the song, but I don’t recall seeing it on MTV; and I was there to observe it if it was. The first “rap” videos that got heavy rotation on MTV was “King of Rock” and “Rock Box” by Run DMC.This would have been around 1984, just a few years after MTV started. Later, “Walk this Way” Run DMC’s rap-ified version of the Aerosmith song got heavy, heavy rotation. The Beastie Boys and LL Cool J also got a lot of play at that time. Then just a few more along the way: Parents Just Don’t Understand (Will Smith), Can’t Touch This (MC Hammer), Wild Thing (Ton Loc), Bust A Move (Young MC), Dre Day (Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg).,,

I can go on and on listing non=white rappers who received heavy support via MTV prior to eminem.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Furthermore what’s up with the “you really are black aren’t you?” comment?

What I’m saying here is that when the discussion concerns race, you seem unreasonable, lib.

Seems like an unforced error by the White House so of course Palin jumps in.

Having a poet/rapper as a guest that wrote/sang about burning the last President is just bad form.

Description of Ad Hominem

Translated from Latin to English, “Ad Hominem” means “against the man” or “against the person.”

An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of “argument” has the following form:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A’s claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).

Real American and Donna et al, do you see what has happened? You lost the argument so you became attack dogs.

News Hounds Ellen said:
As Media Matters caught, Fox News was for Common before it was against him. Do you think the change of heart might have anything to do with the fact that he was invited to the White House?

http://www.newshounds.us/2011/05/10/fox_news_was_for_the_rapper_common_before_it_was_against_him.php

ha

Newsspeak

Newt Limbaugh said:
ha

Newsspeak

Yeah, that’s quite a discovery. A news organization that speaks with different voices. Go back to MSNBC if you want unanimoud Obama sychophancy.

Gasket said:
HipHop is not a university or college. First and foremost, it’s entertainment and a way of life. When you go to watch a movie, you expect to be entertained. The same thing applies to HipHop music and artists. They are ARTISTS. They act, the part. I don’t think anyone was picketing Schwarzenegger or Vin Diesel for shooting at cops in their movies. Why judge other artists for doing the same thing in a different medium? If you don’t like the content, don’t listen to it. If you can learn anything while engaged in it, then good. There are different types of HipHop artists. Honestly, if one doesn’t even know what HipHop entails, they really shouldn’t comment on this particular genre. Eminem is a potent MC, IMO, the best MC this past decade, but, he’s not in the same category as Common. Em is more of a battle MC, a shock-jock, clowning MC while guys like Common, Mos def, Talib Kweli, Dead Prez, Nas are/were more like “social commentary” MCs. they will approach the issues differently. Then there are other rappers who are just complete garbage (rap about vacuous topics) and actually give the wrong idea of what the actual INTENT of HipHop. These people are just in it to make money and could give 2-shits about the elements of HipHop.

I’ve seen Nas live. As I said, I have no overall problem with rap or hip hop, just not as a way to teach kids about anything credible.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Bullshit excuse from a bullshit artist. Whoops…I swore. Therein lies the problem. Eminem is appreciated and acceptable but Common and Ice Cube aren’t? Eminem talks about killing people and how much he hates the president but he’s not as bad as Common? Why is it that Eminem sells so highly? Why is it that MTV showed NO rap videos before Eminem? You can try to act like race isn’t a factor here, but it is. Even Eminem has admitted that. Listen to his song “White America”. Nothing for a viable future?
“That’s cool as long as he don’t trap crack. Graduate from school but still let his pants sag.”
-Coming Up by Lupe Fiasco
“Yo I figure starting early on the market is key. Little Shaddys still to come for their college degree. Cause I plan on having smart daughters all Harvard M.D.s”
-The Old Prince by Shad K
“I know you work real hard for. Want the double R under your garage door. Appreciate the things you work hard for and count your blessings”
-Count Your Blessings by Nas & Damian Marley
“I’m just on the outside looking in. You should know you don’t want to do life up in the pen.”
-The Game by Young Jeezy
“Be smart, go to school. Become a lawyer or doctor don’t be no f*cking fool.”
-The Game by Young Jeezy
“Two kids from hot sex no protection and people don’t see how aids is affecting them.”
-Misunderstood by Common
“At heaven’s gate screaming lord please let me in or send me back to tell my people to be better men.”
-Misunderstood by Common
“So here goes my single y’all radio needs this! They said you can rap about ANYTHING except for Jesus. That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes, but if I talk about God my record won’t get played.”
-Jesus Walks by Kanye West
“Hope I really get to see 30. Wanna settle down and stop being so flirty.”
-Soundtrack to my life by Kid Cudi
“In my day man I did a little something some. They like how come you don’t rap that? Cause that’s a backtrack and I ain’t tryna backpack. i’m only moving forward homie that’s that.”
-Coming Up by Lupe Fiasco
“Now the poor ku klux man see that we all brothers. Not just cause things the same but cause we like the same color and that’s green.”
-American Terrorist by Lupe Fiasco
Heck, this song alone illustrates the point of conscious hip-hop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71McnVwWPwU
You will undoubtedly miss the point of the song.

Actually I really just really liked 8 mile. And I liked his collaboration with Rihanna on the recent song. Other than that, rap/hip hop is come and go.

I’d merely prefer someone else at the poetry reading. Simple as that.

You are the one that places people into demographics. You should re-examine that.

Music, lyrics, genre, is an expression of culture. To relegate one lyric, of one song does not an artist make.

Common has composed many songs worthy of discussion- I am not defending his words, but rather his right to express those words and experiences in a way that makes sense to his culture and especially those with whom can relate with firsthand knowledge to what he is talking about. Honestly, I really believe had Sarah Palin NOT tweeted, this would never have been “news”. There have been far more controversial figures invited to the WH, than a hiphop artist.

mlb said:
Music, lyrics, genre, is an expression of culture. To relegate one lyric, of one song does not an artist make.

Common has composed many songs worthy of discussion- I am not defending his words, but rather his right to express those words and experiences in a way that makes sense to his culture and especially those with whom can relate with firsthand knowledge to what he is talking about. Honestly, I really believe had Sarah Palin NOT tweeted, this would never have been “news”. There have been far more controversial figures invited to the WH, than a hiphop artist.

I am not saying that he shouldn’t have a right to express his opinions. I just think there’s a better person for this particular event. Rush talked about Common on his show yesterday so it could’ve been mentioned on Mediaite given their obsessive Rush coverage.

WCinWI said:
I am not saying that he shouldn’t have a right to express his opinions. I just think there’s a better person for this particular event. Rush talked about Common on his show yesterday so it could’ve been mentioned on Mediaite given their obsessive Rush coverage.

well.. a better person for the event is a very fair argument. The PR generated now is already doing a great job for the Obama camp by giving the media another round of “see the lack of tolerance and racist innuendos coming from the Right” This was a pick-your-battle moment and Hannity, unfortunately choose to bite. He got played.
The Obama WH is very good at making black & white a backdrop to alot of things… could a better choice have been made… sure.

How would the Democratic Media Establishment have reported this story if Bush had invited a country singer to the WH who sang ballads about killing cops and burning a Democratic president to death?

LEAD STORY ACROSS THE NATION!
More evidence of the INCESTUAL CORRUPTION of the Democratic Media Establichment.

OBAMA IS MEDIA CREATED & PROTECTED!

OBAMA IS MEDIA CREATED & PROTECTED!

OBAMA IS MEDIA CREATED & PROTECTED!

OBAMA IS MEDIA CREATED & PROTECTED!

OBAMA IS MEDIA CREATED & PROTECTED!

The Obama’s know their dayz in our White House are quickly coming to an end, so expect a lot more f**k whitey petty crap out of these two from here on ( until us ” real ” Americans kick their grifter asses to the curb ) out.

Aint no big thang.

It’s the DOUBLE-STANDARD that defies Reason.

Just reverse the roles of the Media-Created & Protected President.

If Bush had a Rev. Wright who advocated WHITE SEPARITISM would the Democratic Media Establishment have covered that story like they did the REAL Rev. Wright?

It would been the lead story EVERY DAY!

OBAMA IS MEDIA CREATED & PROTECTED!
OBAMA IS MEDIA CREATED & PROTECTED!

OBAMA IS MEDIA CREATED & PROTECTED!
OBAMA IS MEDIA CREATED & PROTECTED!

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If the white house doesn’t want to lose independent voters this is not a good way to start.

michelle be chillen’ wit a cop-killin’ rapper, eatin’ tamales dat no one betta take away from her, no wat I’m sayin?

Sarah is white trash and so is her attention-seeking daughter. This girl will milk a cow to get media coverage and get paid for it. She had plastic surgery for a “medical condition”? Yeah, right, and Sarah Palin is one of my favorite people. The whole family engages in squeezing money anyway they can. I’d rather have “Common” rap for me, then hear the screeching of the momma grizzly or whatever she’s calling herself these days. And Bristol, like mother like daughter. Such a shame.

eyemjustsayin said:
Sarah is white trash and so is her attention-seeking daughter. This girl will milk a cow to get media coverage and get paid for it. She had plastic surgery for a “medical condition”? Yeah, right, and Sarah Palin is one of my favorite people. The whole family engages in squeezing money anyway they can. I’d rather have “Common” rap for me, then hear the screeching of the momma grizzly or whatever she’s calling herself these days. And Bristol, like mother like daughter. Such a shame.

What is the black equivalent of “white trash” and have you ever used it?

So, this is typical of lowlife scum, they invite other lowlife scum to entertain them. They attract one another. Anyone who hates Authority, like Police, FBI, etc, loves rappers who rap about murdering cops. From the way the Obama’s have pissed on our Constitution and ignored our Laws, I would say this lowlife ghetto singer is perfect for the Obama’s! I do believe B. Hussein Obama is America’s Greatest Enemy! NOBAMA 2012!

ALLEN WEST 2012!

So it’s perfectly A-OK with cheerleader Palin that her buddy Ted Nugent who is a draft dodging chicken hawk burnt out aging one-hit-wonder rocker viciously rages onstage at the President of the United States that he’s a piece of s*** and to suck on his machine gun??? That’s okay with you Mrs. Palin isn’t it….I’m sure you approved and smirked the same way you did when your adoring audience yelled “Kill Him!”.

Why are oil companies charging so much for their oil? Main reason is, because they can. Why can they? Because all the oil companies formed a CARTEL, a Cartel is a group of companies joined together and cooperates to STOP COMPETETION, a sort of clever method of PRICE FIXING. There is abundance of Crude Oil and they continue to raise the price until a large number of buyers stop buying, they then lower the price again until they start buying again. “They call this what the market will bear”. The people using these barrels of oil are (captive customers) which makes the business men suppliers look like greedy hard core profiteers. This does maximize their profits but they are killing the bees that make the Honey. Do they also think; “there are plenty more bees where they came from”?
The Gasoline prices are pretty much the same. They raise the price of a gallon of gasoline until a large number of people quit buying, then they lower the price until everyone starts buying again. This is a sensible way of arriving at a price for products not related to the necessities of life. Price gouging on products produced for the necessities of life and economic stability and progress should be classed as a heinous act and unethical in all business. On the necessities of Life, people will buy till they go broke or die. That is no civilized way of setting prices.
The only thing greedy business men understand is legislation. Legislation is like a contract. Every business man will tell you, when doing business never work without a contract. New Legislation should be implemented and adjusted frequently to keep business fair and running smoother.