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Forgive Paul Krugman For Calling 9/11 ‘An Occasion For Shame’

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Nobel Prize-winning economist and New York Times conscience-disseminating liberal Paul Krugman has caused an uproar with a 3-paragraph (and change) blog post in which he, among other things, calls the anniversary of 9/11 “an occasion for shame.”

Krugman writes several stupid, wrong things in that small space, but upon reflection, I think critics left, right, and center ought to cut Krugman some slack. The 9/11 anniversary is a tough day for everyone, and people handle grief in different ways.

Krugman begins by asking one of the weirdest questions I’ve ever heard. “Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?”

What does he expect, beer bongs and a conga line?

He then pivots to the “deeply shameful” actions taken in the wake of the tragedy by “fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush,” as they raced to cash in on the horror.”

Much of the conservative angst surrounding Krugman’s post centers around the propriety of launching such a political attack on such a solemn occasion. That’s a fair point (it’s not something I would do), but not particularly outrageous. I’m certain you couldn’t throw a rock in either blogohemisphere without hitting something just as partisan, or worse. Krugman’s central point, that post-9/11 America quickly became a deeply-divided place, is something that neither side can credibly deny.

He also alludes to political pundits who fell down on the job post-9/11, but he probably should have mentioned the journalism establishment that openly admits to giving President Bush a years-long pass.

But where Krugman really goes wrong is in connecting the commemoration of that day, and the day itself, to those divisions. The memory of 9/11 has been irrevocably poisoned,” he says. “It has become an occasion for shame. And in its heart, the nation knows it.”

Whatever you think of the political and policy implications of a post-9/11 world, or the partisan jousting that accompanies it, the idea that they could touch the memory of 9/11 is completely backwards. If one can, indeed, affect the other, it is the memory of that day that has the potential to be an antidote to that which has poisoned us.

You can chalk some of this up to the perils of trying to sum up 9/11 in a quickie blog post. In ten years, I don’t think I’ve managed to write more than a paragraph about the day itself. The events overwhelm the words. Every moment of that day is so frozen in time in my mind, I could write a volume about each one, and still come up short.

I usually spend the anniversary trying to avoid television entirely; the instant replay of the mind is vivid enough, thank you. Unavoidable are the thoughts of those thousands of souls, the horror of that lone tower, and minutes later, that empty space. I can’t scratch the surface of the things that remembering that day makes me feel, but I can say, conclusively, that shame is not one of them, and it never will be.

The grief and trauma of 9/11 affects people in different and powerful ways. That’s another reason I don’t write much about that day. If I woke up every September 11 and banged out the first five paragraphs that popped into my head, I’m sure the result would often be something as imflammatory as what Krugman wrote. For example, I sometimes get pissed off when I see “Never Forget” decals and the like, because I think, “Who the hell is that for? Who could possibly forget that?”

Ordinarily, I’m not afraid to make a flawed observation in anger, but where 9/11 is concerned, I’ve found it’s better to err on the side of shutting the hell up, lest my bitter pique intrude on someone else’s legitimate grief.

In that spirit, I hope that Paul Krugman realizes that the anniversary of 9/11 is not an occasion for shame. There are 364 other days on the calendar to work that out.

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  • Anonymous

    I give Paul Krugman no slack here.  He constantly says moronic things.  There are some realities in this world that will never change: water is wet, America’s great, and Paul Krugman is a brain dead moron.

  • Kimberly

    He didn’t allow for any comments on what he wrote. He is a coward.

  • Johnny Manana

    You have to be shitting me.

  • Chach929

    “Krugman writes several stupid, wrong things in that small space” – Good job starting your comment off by showing you’re unbiased.  Idiot.

  • Johnny Manana

    Not much worse than TomTom deleting comments that he doesn’t like.

  • TruDat

    Krugman has proven himself to be a total moron on multiple occasions.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman has done the impossible. He has brought the country together.  Critics “left, right and center” agree — he is an idiot.

    Well done, Paul.

  • Nancillarypeloslinton

    Krugman’s photogenically-challenged visage always suggests the possibility that he’s just crapped in his drawers, doesn’t everybody think that?

  • Surlawda

    if america is so great, why didn’t we attack Iran after 9/11? Why didn’t we bomb Syria the way that greatest of all great americans, dick cheney, wanted us to? Why haven’t we bombed the shit out of gaza, or south korea, another member of the axis of evil? Clearly we are not really so great.   

  • Anonymous

    Forgive him for he knows not what he does? 

  • Anonymous

    old shifty eyes crossed the line with that blog post. he should shove darla up his ass and spin…

  • The Rev

    Paul was just being a commercial troll.  He knew that by writing what he did, when he did, he could get publicity.  Publicity gets Paul paid.  Paul is a good capitalist.

  • ChrisG

    well written, thoughtful piece Tommy…

  • mmars

    His eyes always look vacant and dead like a shark’s.  Now I know for sure his brain is dead.

  • Anonymous

    As we all know, the hate-filled, mentally unstable leftists are ALWAYS right on the edge of going berserk. But now that the lunatic-left is becoming more and more aware of the upcoming LANDSLIDE DEFEAT of OBOZO in Nov 2012, along with the Repubs gaining control of the Senate, in addition to the House, their extremist insanity is reaching new depths of hysteria. They are lashing out at everyone in their sights with demented rage, rants and physical violence. Please do everything you can to protect yourself and your family from the unpredictable behavior of these out-of-control d-cRAT socialist extremists and their stooges in the lamestream socialist fake-news media.

  • Nospam

    “Paul is a good capitalist. ”
    Marxist by philosophy, capitalist by trade,
    Hypocrite by choice.

  • Anonymous

    Not sure what the point of your post was, probably to mock America going to war.  I don’t know.  Israel bombed Syria.  Gaza can fester in their putrid sewage.  What fate is worse than living in the hell you’ve created for yourself?  And the fact you mentioned South Korea as someone we should bomb just shows you’re off base and not sure of what you’re speaking of.

  • Bourekas

    “Forgive Paul Krugman” would imply that Krugman acknowledges what he has done is wrong.  Did Krugman actually apologize, or is he leaving that to lesser people to do for him?

  • Anonymous

    Krugman is nothing but, a “Brudny, Stary, Zydokomuna.”

  • Anonymous

    He looks like he’s a “hardcore” drunk.

  • Chucker

    It would be interesting to look back and determine which political sphere started to split the country over this issue.  I seem to remember Rep. Murtha heading overseas to criticize our policies rather early in the process, and it didn’t seem to take Sen. Schumer long to start screaming about a PDB and al Qaeda, but perhaps it was republicans who started the post 9-11 rift.  I’m sure my liberal antagonsts will want to have their say.

  • slaphappyone

    I’m too busy trying to forgive you for this post, LOL.  Krugman is grieving alright, the death of Keynesianism.

  • clever

    Whats the matter Klugman get your ass kicked in school 1000 time to many.I can swear you were the kid that got hung by his panties from a tree at John F kennedy school it had to be you.You really need to give up teaching also because I heard you suck at it.

  • fanofgrendel

    Anyone who watched the relatives, including little children, read off the victim names Sunday morning, know there was no shame present. A wonderful celebration of the love of good people for each other.

  • Anonymous

    Leif an slams America and 911.

    Will he say the same thing about Islam?

    No way! They will cut his head off.

    Krugman is a coward.

    Brudny, Stary, Zydokumno.

  • Anonymous

    Tommy . He has a venue to explain . Why not let him do it ?

    Would he defend you ?

  • fanofgrendel

    VP Biden Satuday at Shanksville, “President Bush’s handling of the situation from the fall of the Towers to the fall of the Taliban was textbook”. Just to show there are liberals with class.

  • fanofgrendel

    To me they look like the eyes of a snake, darting back and forth. Reptilian.

  • SENNIT FIELDING

    I am not a consistent fan of Krugman and he does have better credentials than most any of the people mentioned on the far right, but in this case, he is absolutely, clearly correct.
    It was an occasion sparked by repetition and the poor surviving victims came off as defeated and, finally a bit bored.
    The most interesting show yesterday was HISTORY CHANNEL’S  recap of the entire Al Qaeda story which led to all the fatal errors made by Bush’s watch as our president and the people who were sacrificed as a result of an ill prepared BUT well informed country which KNEW this was coming and how the day was even told along with the targets.
    Our nation is just a bunch of nitwits in charge and mean spirited people who like to take sides and name call.
    We are not going to recover from this with the attitude of all the Americans who have just sat idle and complained about our President.
    We are a babied and spoiled nation………Even the soldiers who died in the Mid East in this war which will never end, were not honored in the way the victims of 9/11…….We never showed their caskets or their hospitals and recoveries and now just talk about their loss of houses and jobs. THEY should have a day of honor.

  • DavidMaximus

    The fact that Tommy is defending this loser Krugman make him as much of a weasel. This waste of space, wrong about everything, half a man, coward liberal Paul Krugman belongs in Guantanamo Bay. And this is another reason nobody takes Mediaite as a serious news outlet, its a liberal joke, and an education is not necessary to apply. This entertainment website hit a new low once again. You pussy liberals are exactly whats wrong with America. 

  • Chris

    Krugman is entitled to his opinion.  But as others said, he was cowardly not to allow comments.  Of course he knew he’d be slammed.  But if you can’t take the heat…shut up.

  • Michelle

    Tommy says:

    I think critics left, right, and center ought to cut Krugman some slack.

    SHOCKING!

  • The Doctor

    There is always a higher percentage view that the idiotic, insensitive, moronic piece was written by an idiotic, insensitive moron. Perhaps a degree from the college of common sense, as well as sensitivity training would perhaps root his dementia driven brain.

  • Anonymous

    let’s just ALL pray that the families of those murderd on 9-11 don’t see this piece of trash words. 

    If that doesn’t tell you everything you need to know about Krugman, nothing will.  Tommy defends it, because, you know, as long as a liberal says it, let’s excuse it.

    Read his vile blog post, then watch George’s Bush’s beautiful and soothing words at Shanksville.   That’s the difference between a selfish, angry man and an honorable, generous one.  

  • Bob

    Krugman was right the war in 2003, while the right and most of the so-called lib’rul media were too busy gushing over how good they thought Dubya looked in his flight suit

  • http://impossibledreamsmedia.com Chris Jones

    Surely you don’t expect us to believe Krugman was overcome with grief, do you?

  • Bill Mac

    What would happen if a conservative writer said the exact same thing. skewered, crucified, and disgraced for life. The media gives this little narrow turd a pass. What did we learn here?

  • Bob

    I see Krugman is the  subject of Monday’s two-minute hate. What would the right do without their Emmanuel Goldstein-of-the-day? Orwell would be unemployed in today’s era, as this kind of knee-jerk pearl-clutching is beyond parody.

  • Bob

    Let me know when Drudge allows comments.

  • Bob

    You, of course, can say this, as Jabba the Rush and BillO the Clown are such perfect human specimens.

  • Bob

    -yawn-

  • Irrespectiveofthat

    He didn’t slam America at all.

  • Bob

    Let me know when Rush gives up his call screeners and leaves his Florida Neverland compound for a debate.

  • Anonymous

    So, what you’re saying is, a broken clock is right more in a day than he is in 8 years?  I’m not sure what the point here is.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman’s article came across as an angry agenda driven hit piece that used the 9/11 anniversary as an excuse to attack several people on the right.It made Krugman look dead inside.

    That’s not dealing with grief,that’s being an asshole.

    Apparently Krugman is good at that.

  • Anonymous

    The person would probably be equally called out?  Am I suppose to understand there’s a strong conservative bias in the media?  Is that what you’re implying here?

  • Anonymous

    Name me a conservative writer who’s been disgraced for life? Michelle Malkin gave out the personal addresses and phone numbers of sick kids who appeared at a rally for a democratically supported bill to give kids healthcare, her fans then pounded the families with hate-mail and death-threats.  Michelle Malkin is still working.  Ann Coulter once said that Tim McVeigh’s only mistake was he didn’t target the New York Times.  She’s still working, I think she has a new book out.  I’m not even going to get into the thousands of lies, contradictions, hyperbole and flat out bullshit that comes out Rush, Beck or Hannity on an hourly basis.

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t George Orwell be generally supportive of those who volunteer for the military?  Wouldn’t George Orwell not like politicians like Obama who seem to become what they say they hate the most?  And, just wondering, wouldn’t George Orwell have something to say about the White House making a position to combat unfavorable media?  I think Emmanuel Goldstein wouldn’t be able to hide that smile knowing this is only the first step to his creation.

    There’s something to be said of unacknowledged ignorance, too much information, perhaps maybe not able to consume it all, an acceptable excuse I suppose.  Not sure what could be said of being willfully ignorant.  What’s your defense of it?

  • Anonymous

    How many kids did Bush kill in Iraq?  
    Very generous indeed.  

  • Anonymous

    If this were a singular or even rare occurrence for Krugman to insult or disrespect the public, that he ostensibly serves, I might be inclined to give him a pass. Unfortunately, that is not the case here. It is clearly documented as his nature to say such things and he has not earned such consideration.

  • Johnny Manana

    Really?  Prove it.

  • Glutton

    People should stop using 9/11 to make a point. 

  • Cisco

    Krugman could have played a very important role in “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”, but was rejected due mental instability. 

  • Silgary

    Forgive Paul Krugman For Calling 9/11 ‘An Occasion For Shame’
    I think the Times should do what the hypocrite Tommy does. Delete the blog post, and put him on ”Time Out” for a few days.

  • Hoping for peace

    That is bull shit.  He is an asshole and doesn’t deserve a pulpit to spew this crap.   

  • Anonymous

    CUT THE B.S., Tommy. He said what he said AND he DISABLED the comments, because he knew that people would object to what he said. He’s a coward and a WEASEL!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=716802319 David Shaddock

    Drudge is a news aggregator, not a columnist for the NYT. 

  • repwin2012

    I’m not sure who the “we” are that you are referring to Surlawda. You may not be all that great, but America is. Tell me somewhere else you’d rather live. Better yet, move there. Wow, you and Obama, two peas in a pod. Make room for Krugman too. We’re sick of whiny, guilt-ridden folks like you that are ashamed of the greatest nation on earth. No apologies. GREATEST!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Never!

  • Jayamerican1

    Looks like he has succeed in finding a “lesser” person who wrote this article.

  • Jayamerican1

    I agree..they should take Tommy’s column away

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    “ I think critics left, right, and center ought to cut Krugman some slack. ”

    ROFL! Of course you do! He’s a fellow far left liberal! 

  • http://capitolcommentary.com Harrison

    The Democrats didn’t vote for it like Iraq and Afghanistan, that’s why.

  • Anonymous

    Does Tommy ever see error or ill intent of any extreme liberal?  I can’t remember the last time I read a Tommy article that wasn’t way way out there…

  • Anonymous

    Everyone knows that Krugman got his Nobel for “Bush Bashing”, just like Al Gore and Barack Obama.

  • Battim

    the dems voted for both wars in overwhelming numbers.  you have no idea what you are talking about

  • NDanielson

    Yes, the former Enron adviser and Keynesian lover who received a Nobel for merely being a leftist, must be wracked by guilt. Cut him some slack. He knows not what he speaks. Obviously.

  • Cecelia

    Forgive Paul Krugman For Calling 9/11″  

    Done.

    (Wisest sentiment you’ve ever managed to express)

  • NDanielson

    How many did he save from Saddam?

  • Anonymous

    who would have known tommy would ask us to cut krugman some slack… what a surprise….wonder why?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1510446780 Anonymous

    Krugman is a mentally ill loon who if he had any friends would have been sent to treatment years ago. 

    Nobody should treat his rants and delusions as anything other than the ravings of the lunatic that Krugman is. 

    Thankfully he has so thoroughly disgraced himself with his ravings that no one of consequence take serious his idiotic ideas any longer. 

    You want to really see this silly, vile old neaderthal froth at the mouth, someone mention Sarah Palin in his presence.

  • NDanielson

    They only allow a certain amount of comments on any article and favor certain ones over others. You can guess which way the favoritism leans.

  • NDanielson

    Remind us of which Krugman radio show we are talking about here? You mean do Krugman the entertainer, right?

  • NDanielson

    Let us know when Drudge writes a syndicated column.

  • NDanielson

    He’s too ignorant to know it’s willful.

  • Anonymous

    He deserves nothing, no attention, no apology, no nothing.  He is a goner, over the top sicko.  His next job will be on MSNBC.

  • NDanielson

    That the media and Tommy like little narrow turds?

  • NDanielson

    Don’t you find everyone you mentioned disgraced for life? They will never find their way BACK into your good graces, right?

  • ObamaSux

    To Krugman 9/11 is not a moment of shame but rather a moment of celebration.

  • Anonymous

    Fire Krugman instead.

  • Garth

    When the GOP reads comments like snow-soul they feel secure and happy. There are enough morons in America to vote for the rich boosting, science base on the bible, and a commitment to life that begins at conception and ends at birth that are making this country the laughing stock of the world. Krugman is right. More people are killed by drunk drivers and gun accidents in a month than we killed during 9|11. Don’t they deserve to be memorialized every year as well. And while first responders were heroes, a person sitting at their desk in a building who is hit by a jet aircraft is not. Thats a victim. And as for America always being the great. Do you read history? Maybe I am coming on too strong. Do you read at all? Amongst developed nations the only two things (and that in includes care of the elderly, health care quality, quality of life, vacation time, education standards) where America is great versus at the bottom of the class in is creating wealth, taking it from 97% of American people and shoving it up the tree to the top 3 per cent, and our prison population. If America is so great why are more of our people in prison than any other country into the world including the worst and most brutal of the regimes.  But as I said fast-breeding idiots like you, perhaps with little education and certainly ignorant even if you can write in sentences is what the GOP needs to continue its attack on American Democracy. 

  • Garth

    Now let me work this out…if you you are not say ten years old then you sound like a standard issue GOP blowhard and idiot, or to put it in political terms, their core voters. “Some realties will never change.’” So power is permanent like rock? Really? Have you ever read history? Silly question. By comparison Krugman received the Nobel Prize. Chances are he is just a little smarter than you. And so if he is a brain dead moron, what does that make you? Oh yes, a GOP voter. I very much doubt that you read his column regularly or at all. You probably will not read this. But now you are are you on you second six pack of Bud and have fallen asleep watching Housewives or FOX news.
     

  • Anonymous

    The first sentence alone reveals the farcical nature here.  Why in the hell does Krugman’s economist resume need to be highlighted at the start when what he wrote was a socio-political op ed piece?  What’s his high score in Donkey Kong? That may have an impact as well in interpreting his intentions in politicising 9/11.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman used murder to push his brand of spiteful politics right after it happened back in January. This isn’t really a surprise or out of character.

  • Anonymous

    What is a little mind is “great?”

  • miki

    No Bob he just slammed all the victims, victim’s family & friends, survivors and everyone and anyone who was affected by 9/11.  I. To accuse Bush, Guiliani and other Repub for trying to capitalize on this tragedy and publish on the 10th anniversary was despicable and hypocritical. Krugman and the New York Times did just that, capitalize on 9/11 off the backs of victims and survivors of this tragedy.  So vile and so very, very desperate…..

  • Anonymous

    For the record, I’d like to add my distaste for Paul Krugman here as well.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman is a maggot, but the real joy will be seeing us win NY-9 in a huge kick in the DONKEY for OBAMO.

  • Anonymous

    Great nations don’t torture people like America does.

  • South Park Conservatives

    Stay classy Libs.

  • Brock99

    The real problem is the NYT who give Krugman a platform. 

    He doesn’t deserve a platform, unless it’s shoes to go with his frilly Tutu.

  • Anonymous

    Right or wrong, Krugman is in sync with most of the world. See the Spiegel article, and another in the Telegraph,etc, all pointing to 9-11 as the hinge act of US history, when America became unhinged.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1497076194 Travis Pierson

    Paul Krugman routinely says/writes the stupidest thing I hear/read on a daily basis. I would be happy to cut him some slack if he wasn’t getting paid for it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1497076194 Travis Pierson

    You obviously never listen to Limbaugh. I only listen a couple times a month and he routinely moves leftist callers to the front of the line just so he can engage them. They usually end up sputtering something like “Cheneyvaderhalliburton!” and hanging up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1497076194 Travis Pierson

    You obviously never listen to Limbaugh. I only listen a couple times a month and he routinely moves leftist callers to the front of the line just so he can engage them. They usually end up sputtering something like “Cheneyvaderhalliburton!” and hanging up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Galluccio/47100253 Bill Galluccio

    I don’t have a problem with what he said. I don’t agree with, but he is entitled to his opinion. What I have a problem is his refusal to allow comments on the article. Had he not enabled comments, and not mentioned it I might not have cared. The fact that he had the arrogance to say he is not going to let people respond directly to his post is one of the reasons I can’t stand this man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1497076194 Travis Pierson

    I’m glad he was able to feign a little class for the occasion. He was, after all, fresh off his “barbarians at the gate” comments.

  • Limeunpa

    It’s north korea (not south) mate

  • Victor Noir

    Nobody who was alive in this country for the last decade can seriously deny that the Bush administration exploited 9-11 for political, ideological, and financial gain.  Trillions of dollars and thousands of lost American lives later, we have nothing to show for it.  We should all be ashamed.  Who is more patriotic:  the people who fabricated a reason to go to war or the person who calls them out for it?  Grow up.

  • Anonymous

    No slack.  He not only stated his position, he doubled down and repeated it later.

    I don’t tell people how to grieve but this is one sorry, foolish, self-absorbed, clueless, insensitive man. Any person with half of an ounce of sense would, if in the event that they thought negative thoughts about the media and 9/11, would know that it would be highly inappropriate to express those thoughts on the morning of the tenth anniversary of the worst terrorist attack in the nation’s history, and literally minutes before memorial services were about to begin.

    It really was about him wanting to poop in our collective cornflakes because he wanted attention, and he succeeded.

  • Anonymous

    No slack.  He not only stated his position, he doubled down and repeated it later.

    I don’t tell people how to grieve but this is one sorry, foolish, self-absorbed, clueless, insensitive man. Any person with half of an ounce of sense would, if in the event that they thought negative thoughts about the media and 9/11, would know that it would be highly inappropriate to express those thoughts on the morning of the tenth anniversary of the worst terrorist attack in the nation’s history, and literally minutes before memorial services were about to begin.

    It really was about him wanting to poop in our collective cornflakes because he wanted attention, and he succeeded.

  • Sixpounder

    Look, the dude was drunk, OK? I’ll bet most of you get drunk sometimes. And then you too say or write the stupid things you secretly believe.
    .

  • J2thed2000

    s korea ?? reallly ? its N KOREA ffs

  • Mreseigh

    So you would rather Osama bin Laden still be alive? You do realize we found him, and have stopped many potential attacks through enhanced interrogation, right?

    So by your logic, great nations don’t protect their citizens or bring justice to its enemies.

    Anyone against the torture of terrorists is asking for more attacks.

  • Anonymous

    I am more than willing to forgive Mr. Krugman for his ridiculous and insensitive comments.

    As soon as he is aboard one of the four jets that were hijacked on 9/11, or on the 105th floor of either WTC Tower after the planes crashed into them, or in the Pentagon after it was hit, or on the ground in Shanksville when Flight 93 crashed into the ground, I will forgive Mr. Krugman.

    Until then, Mr. Krugman can drop dead, the fucking piece of shit.

  • Anonymous

    “Krugman is a mentally ill loon who if he had any friends would have been sent to treatment years ago.”

    His wife, Madame LaFarge, is an even creepier left wing loon.

    I think 30% of his lunacy can be accrued to her.
    The rest comes from severe mental illness, i.e., liberalism.

  • Jeaps

    Paul Krugman’s column was completely accurate. 9/11 was a tragedy. What we did afterward was and continues to be a travesty.

  • Franniejo1018

    Drop Dead Krugman/Cruel Man

  • http://en.gravatar.com/robb714 Robb714

    Paul Krugman is a needle dick bug fucker, his brain is way bigger than his balls, feel FREE to leave a comment, enough said.

  • http://twitter.com/gadfly666 gadfly666

    Paul Krugman is 100% correct. What happened in USA after 9/11 is a disgrace. Rudy Giuliani and George Bush are not heroes of 9/11. Remember that it was under their watch that the attack of 9/11 took place. And for Bernard Kerik? Well, he is in a federal prison right now.

  • gwgm

    Krugman and guys like Maher and Moore say increasingly insane things all the time. They take the fact that liberals in the media enjoy them taking pot shots at Republicans as validation. And they’re foolishly empowered by the silence of people who have jobs and other time-occupying things.
    All the while, they’re bolstered to write/say things that are incresingly nutty and hateful in order the get more attention, regardless of how crazy it makes them look. Reminds me of Oprah cutting her business in half because she couldn’t resist cheerleading for Obama.
    Krugman’s thoughts are irrelevant. How anyone who pays him to write is still in business is beyond comprehension. It doesn’t seem like the NYT will be in business for much longer. Krugman isn’t clever or insightful; he is defined by ideological hatred… hardly interesting or worth reading.
    His blocking of comments for “obvious” reasons was the act of a dim person who knew he didn’t have the tools to defend his point. No surprise. Would’t pay 2 cents to read that man’s thoughts.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder how much slack Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann would have gotten from Tommy?

  • NeverWrong

    Paul Krugman is a bonafied certifide nutjob. The idiot should be locked in a rubber walled room with no windows.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman is spot on.

    The self-destructive, divided, self-pitying turn this nation took after 9/11 is one of the saddest things I’ve witnessed in my adult life.

    The 9/11 anniversary has become nothing but a 24-hour self-pity party of melodrama and disaster porn that the cable networks and politicians are all too eager to cash in on.

  • Anonymous

    your knowledge of history is laughable.

  • http://twitter.com/BarneyFranken Barney Franken

    There are so many things wrong with this comment I dont know where to begin…
     
    Not that I would even accept the premise that America willfully tortures people, but this statement is just so trite, so naive, and so very wrong.
     
    There hasn’t been a superpower in the history of civilization that has been more committed to the well being of the nations after defeat than the United States…!
     
    name me one “great nation” that even came close to what the US did with the Marshall plan.
     
    Or what armies ever went to great lengths to avoid civilian causalities like the US ?
     
    Previous “great nations” in history simply just conquered and consumed their enemies with very little regard.
     
    You are ignorant, insulting, and unworthy of the sheer luck that was bestowed upon you by being able to call yourself American. You and Krugman are both ungrateful pricks.

  • Anonymous

    They made up for it with their disdain and hatred after 2005. I always get a chuckle when liberals like Matthews bitch about the treatment Obama gets after seeing what they did to to the previous administration. Oh and I voted for Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 04 as a “protest vote”, specifically because of the wars and the Patriot Act. Which by the way, still exists and is stronger than ever.

  • Anonymous

    They made up for it with their disdain and hatred after 2005. I always get a chuckle when liberals like Matthews bitch about the treatment Obama gets after seeing what they did to to the previous administration. Oh and I voted for Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 04 as a “protest vote”, specifically because of the wars and the Patriot Act. Which by the way, still exists and is stronger than ever.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman is just pissed that spending hasn’t had the positive impact he thought he would have on the economy. To think this lemming received a Nobel Prize in economics is mind blowing to say the least.

    I’d tell him to stick with his desired specialty, but he obviously sucks at that too.

  • Farnsworth

    I think if Krugman had allowed comments then the page would have looked not too dissimilar from this comments section – that is not a good thing. Amazing that some of you can wish Krugman death for the simple act of expressing a very non-controversial opinion. Also nice to see that Mediaite is actively participating in this culture of self-regarding wussiness whereby the most grotesquely politicized day in the American political calendar is designated off-limits as soon there is the expression of an opinion that deviates from the established narrative – a narrative that expunges all context from the events of 9/11 so that glib and meaningless phrases like “loss of innocence” and “we refuse to live in fear” can be bandied about instead of truly examining what 9/11 has come to mean to the rest of the world

  • Victor Noir

    Um, none, because they don’t deserve any.  Double standard?  Sure, and with good reason: morons like SP and MB don’t deserve to be judged the same way as normal, thinking people.  A double standard is only wrong when similar people are treated differently.

  • Anonymous

    One thing we know about media hacks–even though from the haughty halls of ‘academe’–is that they are limp-wristed and very keen on how they are perceived. While Krugman is indeed ‘limp-wristed,’ he doesn’t seem to care what people think of him. He’s utterly unkempt-looking.

    I think Krugman is near-suicidal. He has so many tall buildings in Manhattan to choose from. But being a limp-wrist, I’m sure he’s ‘Afwaid.’

  • Anonymous

    Krugman looks as deranged as he sounds.

  • Farnsworth

    How does he sound deranged? Please cite specific examples.

  • TruDat

    Good old Krugman, former Enron advisor.

  • Anonymous

    Our economy didn’t behave as Krugman– the ferret-like ENRON adviser– ‘declared’ it would after OBAMO’s ‘stimulus.’ Now he’s angry, because his little Keynesian theory has been destroyed.

    It’s great seeing him in an enraged state.

  • gordonbloyershow

    I used to think Olbermann was the biggest low life lib piece of crap on the planet but Krugman tops him by a mile. Tommy is climbing the list.

  • Farnsworth

    Krugman was one of the most vocal critics of Obama’s stimulus plan and your seeing a connection between that and his opinions on 9/11 says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about Krugman

  • Anonymous

    Paul Krugman used to be my favorite economist.

    Now he’s one of my favorite Americans. He symbolizes the true mythical great American caricatured here and abroad. Mythical because unfortunately he is in the vast minority in this country that even liberals are too cowardly to not distance themselves from what can only be described as a sensible honest column

  • Anonymous

    Krugman symbolizes the mythical true great American caricatured here and abroad. ‘Mythical’ because unfortunately he is in the vast minority in this country that even liberals are too cowardly to not distance themselves from what can only be described as a sensible, moral and honest column. And a ‘caricature’ because knowledge, morality, honesty and sensibility is not what we stand for anymore

  • CSS

    Read some 20th century history on Latin America if you want to know what national conquest and consumption of a country really means.

  • CSS

    “Anyone against the torture of terrorists is asking for more attacks”

    At least you admit you have no moral principles at all.

  • CSS

    “The media gives this little narrow turd a pass” – all I’ve heard non-stop recently is about Krugman’s post. I think Fox dedicated 48 hours of programming on it. I’m guessing you probably see liberal media bias in your left ball.

  • Steph

    Wow Tommy.  Well written and thought out article.  I didn’t know you had it in you.  Good job!

  • CSS

    Oh god, not a reptilian nut. One thing definitely does bring America together, and that’s the ridicule of people like you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    LOL…. take a look at Krugman’s recent rant on GPS..  if you watch the whole interview available on CNN Rogoff makes him look like and idiot.  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De-2rFhL6Dw

  • Rio

    After only two posts, you disqualified yourself from any slack based on the disqualifications you, yourself have mentioned.  Ironic.

  • Rio

    Oh yeah, Krugman wanted to throw even more money down a hole.

  • R.W. Conspiracy

    Oh, come on.  I, for one, would be happy to be the bigger man and forgive Paul Krugman for his comments.  Where’s his apology?

    …Oh.  I see.

  • Jerry Baustian

    The proper time to go to war against Iran was in 1979, when it began to make war against us.

    Now Iran is close to having nuclear weapons, which it will use, and then Teheran and several other Iranian cities will be wiped off the map. That is what happens when the US fails to respond promptly when piss-ant countries attack us — they expect retaliation and when it doesn’t come then they up the ante.

  • Anonymous

    If you have to have someone else point out Krugman’s loony bin antics then ask for the bed next to his.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman wasn’t debating Keynesian ‘money-down-a-hole’ Thought; he was simply debating its SIZE. Indeed, if that were the case, we should have seen SOME sort of improvement. If Krugman’s whiny rants were true, we’d have seen  a ‘too small’ improvement…but an improvement nonetheless. What we saw was a FAILURE; things got WORSE. Libs and especially Ferret Krugman immediately ‘rationalized’ by saying ‘strawmen’ things like, “It would have been WORSE without it.” Being nothing but an inbred Leftist theoretician, I’d expect Ferret to say that.

    Ferret is livid because FACTS have stampeded his little academic ‘theories.’

  • Anonymous

    Between his aliens post and his hateful 9-11 post, the NY Times should get him a therapist and get him off its pages.    

  • Anonymous

    Krugman is without a doubt a brilliant economist. We used his text book in college and during my graduate studies. But for some strange reason, we didn’t have any Political Science text books written by Paul Krugman. 

  • Farnsworth

    Got it. You can’t cite any examples because you don’t know what you’re talking about

  • Farnsworth

    Tell me, as someone with a keen understanding of the global economic system, what would you have done to alleviate the effects of the recession?

  • Anonymous

    At least when you’re wrong you’re consistently wrong.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure going through the studying he went, ya pick up a thing or two.  I mean, he does have a long track record on economics.  Additionally, he has a long track record of contradicting himself on economic policy http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/paul_krugman_the_selfcontradic.html

  • Anonymous

    Asked and answered 100 times…

  • Anonymous

    Tell us all what Krugman disagreed with and be specific…and no one wants to hear about how he wanted Obama to waiste more money on the stimulus and shovel (not ) ready projects because we already know this…he has admitted it to the American people on national television.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm…thinking isn’t really one of your strong points is it?

  • Anonymous

    Amen

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for your opinion.

  • Victor Noir

    English please.  And please look up big words like “ironic” before you use them.  

  • RickyRick

    he’s a tiny desperate oily pathetic liberal – maybe he should see how many nobel’s he can stick where the sun doesn’t shine. Truly amazing these guys give themselves awards for screwing things up. there’s a complex I believe he’s suffering from. Must be the same brain tumor that Casey Anthony has? Or maybe beard cancer? He’s got something he can’t get rid of 

  • TruDat

    He’s your typical bloated liberal, living off others.

  • Anonymous

    Now we know what defines  the conscience of a liberal. As someone who advocates for free speech I totally agee that he should have waited a day or so even though I could never condone his words. Timing is everything. Krugman has become increasingly paranoid, shrill, desperate and unhinged. What a sad little man!

  • Anonymous

    I’d bet he’d be in heaven if he could get a debate with a prominent liberal. I don’t think many want to tangle with him. But it would be fun to watch since he takes on so many liberals on the phone.

  • Anonymous

    Honestly, I would go after Barney Frank & Chris Dodd, who caused the housing meltdown. Economists generally–almost universally–agree that putting homes into the hands of freeloaders who couldn’t afford the mortgage payments was the catalyst for everything that followed. People saw their asset values collapse, their 401(k)’s collapse, and the ‘consuming’ just stopped.

    It started with Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae, under the pontificating of Frank & Dodd.

  • Anonymous

    BINGO … Jelperman seems to have forgotten Danny Pearls forced TV
    appearance. His last ever.

  • CarmanK

    Krugman needs no forgiveness for telling the truth. He is a distinguished AMERICAN who has the knowledge and substance to see issues clearly and to express his opinion responsibly. He did the right thing. Tom Friedman said it years ago,  he was tired of living under the cloud of 9/11, it was time the american people welcomed a new day, let the sunshine in and begin anew living a life free of 9/11 shadows. He too was right. We have done far more damage to ourselves, our society and our govt than binLaden could haionve hoped for. Our leadership lied to us, corrupted our govt, permitted private contractors to steal billions from american contractors, corrupted our justice department with graduates of Liberty University, altered scientific data to achieve political goals, deminished the EPA, ran up the national debt while giving tax cuts to the wealthiest in the nation. And most of all, they TORTURED as a matter of national policy. They disgraced our nation and betrayed our trust. binLaden couldn’t have done that, BUSH/CHENEY did it.

  • Stormcrow

    Actually Glenn Beck said, “It took me a year to hate the 9/11 victims”, and Ann Coulter called the 9/11 victims wives “Evil witches”, and they are still on Fox “News” all the time, so Bill Mac your statement is either a lie, or made out of ignorance, or both.

  • Stormcrow

    I agree, and let us not forget Glenn Beck saying, “It took me a year to hate the 9/11 victims…” and Ann Coulter calling the 9/11 victims wives evil witches.

  • http://harrycool.wordpress.com/ Harry

    you guys got hundreds of thousands of people killed as a justification for taking action for this event and it was (and is) not right. you know it and everyone else too. end of the debate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chasrmartin Charlie Martin

    Tommy, in a word, no.  This one was out of line.

  • Anonymous

    Look up pond scum in a pictionary, and you will see a picture of Paul Krugman.  Only way I will cut this disgusting POS any slack is if it is soon revealed that he has inoperable brain cancer and isn’t responsible for his actions.  In the meantime, I will be avoiding all of the New York Times advertisers whenever possible.

  • Anonymous

    and republicans are un-american losers

  • Anonymous

    and republicans are un-american losers

  • Anonymous

    “guilt-ridden folks like you that are ashamed of the greatest nation on earth”

    Only brain dead people like you fail to see that is no longer true about America. Dumbya and cheney ruined our country forever- we are not the greatest- 37 yes 37 countries have better health care for their citizens.  We’re bullies. Who the hell are we to decide what other countries can do? We no longer ride white horses or have white hats- we do evil to other countries and to individuals. I did 20 and I’m ashamed of my country after what the rerpublicans have done to it.

  • Anonymous

    ignorant loser.

  • Guest

    I dont recall america torturing anyone.  I do know that we have put murderouse, soulless dogs through a procedure known as waterboarding, which members of our armed services have been willingly subjected to without any permant mental, emotional, or physical harm…

    Also…please provide us with the definition of torture by the international law of land warfare, and then of course the example of america violating this internaitonal law, so we can marvel at your intelligence.

  • Clamc

    He got the prize from the same folks who gave Obama a peace prize. Not impressed, frankly. 

  • Clamc

    Yea, brilliant. He recently wrote an article claiming endless trillion dollar deficits are in fact not any sort of problem at all. Frankly, not impressed. In his time, Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet, Chevalier de la Marck was considered a genius, too. He was not as pretentious as special K, though. 

  • Clamc

    Is it true oral sex is now referred to as a B(ill) J(efferson) by kids these days? 

  • Clamc

    Don’t forget the majority leader of the Senate who claimed defeat in the Iraq war to argue against the surge. Treason, really. 

  • ASAP

    You are an idiot.

  • ASAP

    You are an idiot.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P45VITSQVT5YNYU4UYK2AGFX4Q Dennis

    I had to jump in on this.  Krugman received a Nobel for Economics.  Why does this ratify his intelligence in areas like politics?  I happen to think Krugman’s economic ideas are nonsense, but do not doubt his ability in that area.  Under your reasoning, I should be able to have my car repaired  by my doctor, since he clearly is intelligent enough to get through med school.  Sheesh….get off it.  I don’t defer to Krugman in intelligence and I think he is an idiotic moron when it comes to his left wing political slant on everything…yes even including his beloved economics.

  • Mack

    Pardon me for asking… but did anybody here attacking Krugman, aside from the article author, even READ his blog post? Granted, it might have been a bit much to post on the 10th anniversary of the event. But to fly at him with full talons out, as though he just dissed the nation, the suffering, and the victims… or as though he somehow supported the occurrence of the atrocity… is flat out idiotic and ignorant. 

    The guy took about three inches of space to say that the solemnity of the event deserves unity. America got that, did that… for about a week afterward. And then we lapsed into divisive politics, from which we’ve never recovered. This is what he finds shameful. And if you don’t believe it’s true, scroll back and look at the preponderance of whiny posts right goddamn here. 

    Did political figures capitalize on the emotional intensity that remained? Did they use it to create these divisions and fortify support for themselves and their agendas? Absolutely they did. Anybody who claims otherwise is lying to themselves and the rest of us. This is what politicians do. We’ve always found it shameful before. There’s no reason we shouldn’t find it shameful now. Which was Krugman’s other point.

    Now, does the blame for that fall entirely on Republicans? No. Did some Democrats use the frenzy to whip up some political cachè? I’m sure they did, somewhere. But you’d have to be a slavish toady and a fool to pretend Republicans did not later “use” the tragedy for their professional and even personal gain. Such a position would be even more astounding today, in the all-on-record digital age. 

    Do yourself a favor. Go look for videos of the last election’s primary debates. Count the number of times Rudy G. evokes “9/11.” And then tell me again how it’s vile to claim he would ever do such a thing as capitalize on tragedy. Go look for the times Bush and Cheney tried to bend over backward to tie 9/11 to Iraq and Hussein or to tie Hussein to al Quaeda. 

    But I know you won’t… because you’re already convinced that Krugman is a socialist, that Rudy and Bush are heroes, and that anything stamped “GOP” is golden. Okay. Go ahead and forget my suggestion. Instead, why don’t you come back with something insightful like “If you don’t like it here, move… America’s the greatest ever… f*ck yeah!” 

  • Anonymous

    Is that because you value free speech so much?

  • Anonymous

    I guess we’ll never know. We have to just find comfort in the fact they were killed by the good guys.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s hypocritical BS to jump all over Krugman for what is at most a poor choice of words. Watch the Daily Show clip about Sept 13th and you’ll understand his point. 9/11 was an opportunity for us to come together not only as a nation but as a world, but the opportunity was lost as the event was exploited to invade Iraq and serve political and monetary ends.
    Has anyone got there 9/11 commemorative plates?

  • Rudytbone

    Not a single country in the world has better healthcare than we do.  Not. One.  Patients come to the US to get treatment, not the other way around.  And no one is refused healthcare, when needed, either.  Obama and the demorats attempts to socialize the leading healthcare system in the world are going to ruin it.  I sincerely hope you like medicine the way it is now.   Once socialized, medical advancements will be few and far between.

  • Anonymous

    Um..NO. I don’t think I will ever forgive or forget.

  • Anonymous

    At least Murtha had the decency to die.

  • Anonymous

    Obama, Kissenger and Arafat all received Noble prizes for peace.Gandhi did not.

    Krugman is in good company.

  • Anonymous

    You’re full of shit. The medical care you’re talking about is only avaiable to the very wealthy.
    You’re a racist “fan” of america who still believes the BS that we’re #1. IN 10 years we haven’t been able to beat a bunch of poppy growing cave dwellers- #1- hell no. maybe in lying, cheating and stealing.
    People are refused healthcare- I’ve seem it- you need to get your head out of your ass and look around.
    Go to an ER in a big city.  You don’t seem to be bitching about our socialized cops or firemen or are you just more racist about the President?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    No, Paul Krugman can go fuck himself.

    Krugman knows that he’s a bitter, intellectual coward. He shut off the comments for the post, he believes the things he said, and he’s quite conscience of what he’s doing. Why the hell would I forgive someone who’ doesn’t feel sorry?

  • http://truth-and-opinion.dyndns.org/ mavigozler

    Hey Tommy:  if only you would “err on the side” of shutting the hell up more often, then that civility in discourse that a few on the extreme right and left have been whining about since especially Tucson would have its quotient go up 10-fold, I imagine.

    Oh, and about forgiving Paul Krugman….  I am a pretty sure he is neither asking for nor interested at all in your unsolicited, pretentious forgiveness. If you want to be patronizing, serve it up to creeps like Hugh Hewitt, Dennis Prager, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, and the whole line of other losers making outrageous comments and who may actually have regretted doing so (although I doubt it).

  • shalibaba

    what a total asshole. i used to have some respect for his economic theories….but what an asshole!

  • David Cpuman

    Well I agree with Mr. Christopher that a case could be made against Paul’s comment. On the other hand I know where Paul is coming from as well.  Taking nothing away from those who died and all those who loved them- as well as the 6000 Americans dead since then in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Lord knows the …what some 200000 wounded??? Who knows this figure anyway?  In any case George W. Bush will eventually go down as the single worse president in US history.  He put us in Iraq because he was mad at Saddam because Saddam might have tried to assassinate Geo. H W Bush- a bad thing, no question- but tell this to all the innocent Iraqis dead as the result. If Saddam needed to go,why not go after Saddam?  Because of Geo Bush fixation on Iraq, Afghanistan went to hell. Now we are still trying to clean it up- and in the mean time are finally leaving Iraq after more time than we spent in Viet Nam. This is a national disgrace.   And what does this “rant” have to do with “an occasion of shame”? Because as Americans we have rode rough shod over darn near every country in the world at one time or another. We put our nose in other country’s business- call it national security. Yeah, like the fruit companies exploited all of Latin American for over 60 years. Chaney wanted Halliburton to get the juicy oil service contracts- and they did – and KBR got all the military service contacts – at no bid- and we support Israel without question – hey I got nothing against the Jews, wish them the best and they have been a strong ally of the US. This does not mean they are always right.  The Palestinians have the right to their own country, just like we did, and the Jews. After all the frustration of the last about 100 years- who can blame Muslims – a significant portion of whom are radical and insensitive to other faiths anyway- but who can blame people with out a future, living in camps, treated at least as bad as the Jews were by the rest of the world- until UN partition anyway. I mean if I was Shia Muslim I would certainly feel the same way. Check out your history of the middle east and see what Zionists did during British occupation- as Mao said one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. Until we resolve the causes of terrorism, and deal with the criminals or crime lord’s behind some of this- but until we resolve what attracts youth’s to the movement we will never stop this and more innocent Americans and yes, Arabs, Muslims etc. will die.  So, yes, a day of shame – and a day of deep pain, passion, regret, and hope as well.
    May God in his infinite mercy hold the innocents who died that day, and every one of our service men and women who have dies since that terrible day in our attempt to safe guard our Homeland. And perhaps my God as well provide the insight, and understanding needed to our political leaders – and others in the world- to guide them all to the compassion required to finally stop the madness before it consumes us all.
    David.cpuman@gmail.com

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    Everyone knows that the President isn’t responsible for anything that happens in his first 2 1/2 years in office.  That’s a liberal rule.

    More leftist garbage.”TMP”

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