Yawn. Every military action we’ve taken since WW2 has been unconstitutional. The unrepresentative House of Representatives is unconstitutional.

Poor Biden. He finally gets it right and it bites him.

Yawn is right.. what a load of nonsense..

next

At least Tommy doesn’t allow his personal feelings to get into this non partisan story .

I love Joe Biden. He epitomizes the train wreck that is the Obamo regime. It’s good having him around.

Publius219 said:
Yawn. Every military action we’ve taken since WW2 has been unconstitutional. The unrepresentative House of Representatives is unconstitutional.

3…2…1…Let the rationalizing begin!!

Reagan had more blatant evidence to impeach him. All these impeachment talk are just there to fill the hours of the talking heads, it’s not going to happen, if it proceeds in Congress, it would fail.

So don’t bother with another Kenn Starr crap, by wasting money.

How come the Republicans are quiet in regards to Impeachment? its just a bad idea. Newt and co would tell you about it.

The Lantern of Truth said:
The criticisms the President faces are so varied, it’s tough to know where to even start the conversation, and this silly comparison of Bush and Obama is just another example of that.

The Lantern of Truth said:
At least Tommy doesn’t allow his personal feelings to get into this non partisan story .

lol,, predictable aint it
tommy,,, that was sweet
you kinda like obama dont ya?
I WOULD HAVE NEVER GUESSED THAT!

How is it “playing gotcha?” The bottom line is Obamas own words a couple yrs ago prove he’s wrong and a hypocrite. Bidens words just solidify that.

So, was attacking Libya the Hope, or the Change?

Despite some superficial similarities between the two situations, it’s also a poor comparison. Biden was talking about a unilateral, full-scale attack on Iran, not a UN-led no-fly zone, for which there is plenty of precedent.

What does that have to do with Congress’ role in authorizing military force, and the President’s Constitutional responsibilities? And what is this “unilateral, full scale attack” you speak of? I seem to have missed the portion of the Constitution in which the UN is mentioned as a branch of American government with any authority regarding the use of our military.

Biden said Bush couldn’t use military force without Congressional authorization. How is that not what Obama has done? Obama has said the same thing:

The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

How does that not describe exactly what he’s done here?

Pablo said:
How does that not describe exactly what he’s done here?

It does. Obama knows it. Tommy Christopher knows it, but would prefer to scramble into Defense Attorney mode.

“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

Qaddafi “threatened” his own people! He posed NO threat to US. It’s no wonder Obama rushed off on his world tour, it was so he wouldn’t have to answer any questions. To me that’s cowardly.

“Gosh, it would be nice if you let us know in advance if you’re going to start warring with people, but if you can’t for some reason, you know, just send us a letter within 48 hours, okay?” I wonder who made those comments? At what point do media members stop giving this administration a pass and start holding them accountable for their own past statements on war or a number of other subjects.

Since calling for impeachment 4 years ago , Joe Biden has become insurance against impeachment .

Great “editorial” Tommy! That water getting heavy yet?

Hey Tommy, since you were so deftly able explain that one to us, can you explain Obama saying this week that Gaddafi must go and the very next day saying, well maybe not? Seriously, I’m getting whiplash here!

The Lantern of Truth said:
Since calling for impeachment 4 years ago , Joe Biden has become insurance against impeachment .

Become insurance, what the hell is that. Perhaps you meant to say assurance? either way, it sounds screwed.

Today, Biden. Yesterday, Dennis Kucinich. The day before, Ralph Nader. Tomorrow, who knows?

I keep telling you guys that this is all a head fake by Democrats trying to masquerade Hussein’s Marxist extremism by appearing more radical in comparison. Making Hussein look like a centerist to deceive voters in 2012 is the ONLY thing on the agenda of the Democrats. Hopefully, the only ones dumb enough to believe their scam are Dims they already own..

Liberal Tormentor said:
Hey Tommy, since you were so deftly able explain that one to us, can you explain Obama saying this week that Gaddafi must go and the very next day saying, well maybe not? Seriously, I’m getting whiplash here!

Why ask him? ask Obama and those who work for him.

Sky,
Tommy is the one with Whitehouse access, not me. Wouldn’t it be nice if the liberal media did their job and asked those questions?

Davo says:
Making Hussein look like a centerist to deceive voters in 2012 is the ONLY thing on the agenda of the Democrats.

Well can you blame them for trying since it worked so well the last time around? Of course, having the liberal media as willing accomplices didn’t hurt.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky,
Tommy is the one with Whitehouse access, not me. Wouldn’t it be nice if the liberal media did their job and asked those questions?

If you pay attention, you’d notice they do. It’s called the daily white house briefing, tune in and you’d discover new things.

Davo said:
Today, Biden. Yesterday, Dennis Kucinich. The day before, Ralph Nader. Tomorrow, who knows?

I keep telling you guys that this is all a head fake by Democrats trying to masquerade Hussein’s Marxist extremism by appearing more radical in comparison. Making Hussein look like a centerist to deceive voters in 2012 is the ONLY thing on the agenda of the Democrats. Hopefully, the only ones dumb enough to believe their scam are Dims they already own..

And having idiots like you to contrast against doesn’t hurt the cause either.

One thing is for sure: Senator Obama would be going ape shiite over what President Obama is doing regarding Libya.

Sky says:

If you pay attention, you’d notice they do. It’s called the daily white house briefing, tune in and you’d discover new things.

Yeah I’m aware of that. Can you post a link to any of them asking this question?

In the UN press release announcing the resolution, the UK representative reportedly “pledged that partners in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the Arab League were now ready to act.

My understanding has been the original plan was for command and control of the operation to switch to NATO, but Turkey has balked, the Arab League is reluctant to be seen as taking NATO orders and France is worried about hurting anyone’s feelings.

With or without the limited military action angle, I believe Congress may have given the authority when we joined NATO. Though, it gets kind of complicated now that the organization’s operational involvement hasn’t been defined.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky says:

If you pay attention, you’d notice they do. It’s called the daily white house briefing, tune in and you’d discover new things.

Yeah I’m aware of that. Can you post a link to any of them asking this question?

Don’t be lazy, do it yourself.

Sky, do you happen to have the # to the red phone in the oval office and I’ll get on that. You’re really emabarrassing yourself.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Sky, do you happen to have the # to the red phone in the oval office and I’ll get on that. You’re really emabarrassing yourself.

Embarrassing? lol, looks like someone is projecting. Don’t feel embarrassed for your ineptitude to pay attention to details.

You righties wanted your No Fly Zone. You got it, now you want to impeach? Treasonous hypocrites.

BushClintonCrimeFamily says:
You righties wanted your No Fly Zone. You got it, now you want to impeach? Treasonous hypocrites.

You’re totally missing the point. We aren’t calling for impeachment, we are pointing out liberal hypocrisy. Try to keep up!

Laughtastic – always there are always excuses for hehimselftehone, there are never, never excuses for any republican president only democrat ones.

Kind of like the meaning of the word “is”.

Unbelieve, but oh so typical.

Just like mediaite has not really covered the pictures from Afghanistan, and what articles I have seen have referred to “rogue” soldiers – that same “rogue” soldiers involved in Abu Ghraib, but were NEVER addressed, since Abu Ghraib was Bush/Rummy fault, but the Afghanistan posing pictures are simply “rogue”. Yup, just a lot more liberal media bias and a lot more for those of us who come here to laugh have reason to laugh out loud.

skyfet said:
Why ask him? ask Obama and those who work for him.

Because he’s our White House Correspondent, silly!

Okay, so Germany is pulling out of the coalition. But Obama has a new ally, Al-Qaeda

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212003

You would think that Al-Qaeda’s support for the same rebels we are supporting would be a newsworthy item. But don’t expect to hear about it on CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, etc. But Fox might cover it…

Pay attention lefties. If you want to know why Fox is beating out its rivals, it is precisely situations such as this one, where major stories are hidden by the other networks. This is not rocket science. If you censor the news, you will not have a successful career as a journalist in today’s era of free-flowing, open media.

Magister said:
In the UN press release announcing the resolution, the UK representative reportedly “pledged that partners in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the Arab League were now ready to act. My understanding has been the original plan was for command and control of the operation to switch to NATO, but Turkey has balked, the Arab League is reluctant to be seen as taking NATO orders and France is worried about hurting anyone’s feelings. With or without the limited military action angle, I believe Congress may have given the authority when we joined NATO. Though, it gets kind of complicated now that the organization’s operational involvement hasn’t been defined.

No, we joined NATO via a treaty. This means only the Senate had to ratify the treaty. It takes both Houses to declare war.

ChrisNH said:
3…2…1…Let the rationalizing begin!!

You need to rationalize how you went from “we want a no flyyyy zoooone!! Obozo isn’t doing the riiiight thiiiing!! Letting evil dictator kill his own peeeeeeople!!!” last week, to “impeach Obama, this is unconstitutional!” THIS week.

3…2…1… Go!

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
You righties wanted your No Fly Zone. You got it, now you want to impeach? Treasonous hypocrites.

Last I looked your boys Biden and Kucinich are the ones wanting to impeach. And how does a no-fly zone equate to launching 100+ Tomahawk missiles into Libya???

How does it feel belonging to a party that has a different stance on both sides of every issue, depending on which party is involved? A living breathing stand on any issue to politicize anything at any time. Wow. No wonder you sheep are such miserable citizens, you have no morals, no ethics, no spine. No wonder you sheep hate the constitution and spit on it as often as you can. No wonder you hate the Bible, but love the prophet Mohamed. The koran is built upon the premise of lying at every chance to advance your own sick ideology that you clowns cannot even define, but you all know what your AGAINST and HATE at any given time. Pathetic.

Publius219 said:
Yawn. Every military action we’ve taken since WW2 has been unconstitutional. The unrepresentative House of Representatives is unconstitutional.

At time of this writing, 11 out of 15 people (73%) have clicked the ‘thumbs down’ button. That means 73% of the wonderful readership here either disagrees with this FACT, or else just doesn’t want to hear it and accept it. Sorry, it’s true. All those Rpublican wars. (And the Democratic ones too). Unconstitutional. So, whoop-de-doo about this one. Especially when all the Repugs were screaming for their no-fly-zone a week ago. There, you got it. Now shut up.

Liberal Tormentor said:
BushClintonCrimeFamily says:
You righties wanted your No Fly Zone. You got it, now you want to impeach? Treasonous hypocrites.

You’re totally missing the point. We aren’t calling for impeachment, we are pointing out liberal hypocrisy. Try to keep up!

As long as you’re just as quick to point out the hypocrisy I am bringing up, when you see it. (And don’t pretend you don’t see it. Plenty of righties are screaming for impeachment too).

ndanielson said:
Last I looked your boys Biden and Kucinich are the ones wanting to impeach. And how does a no-fly zone equate to launching 100+ Tomahawk missiles into Libya???

How does it feel belonging to a party that has a different stance on both sides of every issue, depending on which party is involved? A living breathing stand on any issue to politicize anything at any time. Wow. No wonder you sheep are such miserable citizens, you have no morals, no ethics, no spine. No wonder you sheep hate the constitution and spit on it as often as you can. No wonder you hate the Bible, but love the prophet Mohamed. The koran is built upon the premise of lying at every chance to advance your own sick ideology that you clowns cannot even define, but you all know what your AGAINST and HATE at any given time. Pathetic.

Unlike you, I don’t belong to a party. You might try it some time, might see the world clearer.

BushClinton says:
As long as you’re just as quick to point out the hypocrisy I am bringing up, when you see it. (And don’t pretend you don’t see it. Plenty of righties are screaming for impeachment too).

Who are these righties and I might.

felixw said:
Okay, so Germany is pulling out of the coalition. But Obama has a new ally, Al-Qaeda

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212003

You would think that Al-Qaeda’s support for the same rebels we are supporting would be a newsworthy item. But don’t expect to hear about it on CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, etc. But Fox might cover it…

Pay attention lefties. If you want to know why Fox is beating out its rivals, it is precisely situations such as this one, where major stories are hidden by the other networks. This is not rocket science. If you censor the news, you will not have a successful career as a journalist in today’s era of free-flowing, open media.

Why NOT use Al-Qaeda? The U.S. has been using them for decades. Duh.

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
Why NOT use Al-Qaeda? The U.S. has been using them for decades. Duh.

Fox is beating out its rivals because their cult followers go to Fox exclusively for their nightly brainwashing. The rest of us get our information from a variety of sources. That’s why we’re (a little) less brainwashed. ;-)

Calling them shrill doesn’t make them wrong, Tommy.

It appears that perhaps after the EuroNews story was filed that I miscoded in my first comment, NATO may have come closer to getting out in front because the org’s website has put out several bits of press, since.

RichS said:
No, we joined NATO via a treaty. This means only the Senate had to ratify the treaty. It takes both Houses to declare war.

One, there’s the distinction that this isn’t a war, but a military action in support of a UN resolution.

Otherwise, I realize that the following point doesn’t directly apply, but I don’t have time to read all of the agreements… The original NATO Treaty obligates us to come to the aid of any member state including the use of military force, if required, so in at least this one instance the obligation to consult Congress was signed away in a NATO treaty.

ndanielson said:
Last I looked your boys Biden and Kucinich are the ones wanting to impeach.

And the prophet Mohamed will bathe in pig’s blood long before one of yours ever impeaches one of yours. What a joke. It’s all a joke. A sad joke on the American public. Kucinich only cares about looking consistent, as does the buffoon, Ralph Nader. And Biden will flip flop faster than J. Françoise Kerry can praise Claire McCaskill for writing a check for $300,000 in back taxes after defrauding the American public for four years. What a party. So much nuance from a morally bankrupt party.

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
Unlike you, I don’t belong to a party. You might try it some time, might see the world clearer.

Are you going to add Obama to your username ?

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
You need to rationalize how you went from “we want a no flyyyy zoooone!! Obozo isn’t doing the riiiight thiiiing!! Letting evil dictator kill his own peeeeeeople!!!” last week, to “impeach Obama, this is unconstitutional!” THIS week.

3…2…1… Go!

You’ll need to point out the comments that support your assertion.

3…2…1…Go!

^a little hinky wording… the bit about miscoding the EuroNews link was originally parenthetical and NATO has issued several take-charge releases since the 21st.

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
Unlike you, I don’t belong to a party. You might try it some time, might see the world clearer.

You belong to an ideology, leftist clown. That’s even worse.

Bush Clinton says:

Fox is beating out its rivals because their cult followers go to Fox exclusively for their nightly brainwashing. The rest of us get our information from a variety of sources. That’s why we’re (a little) less brainwashed. ;-)

And:
Unlike you, I don’t belong to a party. You might try it some time, might see the world clearer.

HAHA!

Obama should be calling for his own impeachment, according to his statements as a candidate regarding constitutional power/procedure for a president to make war.

Magister said:
The original NATO Treaty obligates us to come to the aid of any member state including the use of military force, if required, so in at least this one instance the obligation to consult Congress was signed away in a NATO treaty.

No, we’re not obligated to provide aid anytime a member wants to go blow something up. We’re obligated to defend any NATO member from attack. Libya is not a NATO member. Therefore, we have no NATO obligation to act in Libya.

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
At time of this writing, 11 out of 15 people (73%) have clicked the ‘thumbs down’ button. That means 73% of the wonderful readership here either disagrees with this FACT, or else just doesn’t want to hear it and accept it. Sorry, it’s true. All those Rpublican wars. (And the Democratic ones too). Unconstitutional. So, whoop-de-doo about this one. Especially when all the Repugs were screaming for their no-fly-zone a week ago. There, you got it. Now shut up.

At the time of this writing everyone, 100%, have given you a thumbs down majority on everything you write. Everyone of the wonderful voting participants agree with the FACT that you are a sorry liberal clown ideologue who can’t see past your a$$ on any issue if it attacks your liberal sheep worldview.

There, you got it. Now shut up.

murf said:
Are you going to add Obama to your username ?

I consider him part of the Family.

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
I consider him part of the Family.

I thought he was a Kennedy.

Pablo said:
No, we’re not obligated to provide aid anytime a member wants to go blow something up. We’re obligated to defend any NATO member from attack. Libya is not a NATO member. Therefore, we have no NATO obligation to act in Libya.

That’s why I said it wasn’t directly on point, but I gave the mutual aid portion of the original NATO treaty as an example to RichS as to how the Senate-ratified treaty could override an obligation to inform Congress before military action.

Only ABC Mentions Obama Flip-Flop on Presidential War Powers, CBS and NBC Ignore

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2011/03/23/only-abc-mentions-obama-flip-flop-presidential-war-powers-cbs-and-nbc-#ixzz1HRoS6kaT

Liberal Tormentor said:
Bush Clinton says:

Fox is beating out its rivals because their cult followers go to Fox exclusively for their nightly brainwashing. The rest of us get our information from a variety of sources. That’s why we’re (a little) less brainwashed. ;-)

And:
Unlike you, I don’t belong to a party. You might try it some time, might see the world clearer.

HAHA!

So… what is your point? Seems you’re trying to say that anybody who thinks Fox viewers are a cult, MUST be a Democrat!! Is that what you’re trying to say?

skyfet said:
either way, it sounds screwed.

either way you sound nuts.

I’m saying you’re claiming not to lean to one side, when that’s obviously NOT the case. I get annoyed with people who can’t be honest about who they are.

bobmoses said:
As usual, Tommy Christopher ignores the fact that this is a media site to make his own lame partisan political statements.

Thank goodness Mediaite is here to give Tommy Christopher a forum to tell us all his random and ill-informed views on the Constitutionality of war.

BTW: Anybody surprised that a rabid partisan like Christopher is leading the charge to defend his Dear Leader and stomp his feet that his critics are unfair?

Tommy Christopher needs to take his unprofessional and shallow writing to where it belongs: Daily Kos. In the comment thread. with all of the other mindless partisans.

big +1 here!!!

@Pablo: IOW -Back in my first comment on page one, I theorized that because the no-fly zone is being enforced by NATO and the Arab League, it’s not legally military action by the United States and some type of previously approved NATO agreement may be in force.

Gen. Colin Powell’s enduring contribution to American foreign policy is the Powell Doctrine, defining when and how American military power should be used. The doctrine has three main precepts: Avoid mission creep, clearly define your goals, and plan an exit strategy before you go in. Obama’s Libya intervention flunks on all three counts.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Only ABC Mentions Obama Flip-Flop on Presidential War Powers, CBS and NBC Ignore

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2011/03/23/only-abc-mentions-obama-flip-flop-presidential-war-powers-cbs-and-nbc-#ixzz1HRoS6kaT

That is why the sheep are so completely uninformed and brainwashed on any given topic. Bush/Clinton clown, doesn’t seem to even know liberal clowns are the majority of the democrat sheep party. Hey Bush/clinton clown, tell us that you vote the issue and not the party. I can’t wait to hear it. LOL.

Thanks, nader, KOOKcinich, ron paul and plagiarist-joe biden. I’ll follow your suggestion and add “war crimes” to the already long list:

IMPEACH “YOU LIE!” HUSSEIN !!!!

Speaker of the House Boehner must convene a special panel to begin IMPEACHMENT hearings for the high crimes and misdemeanors of hussein in relation to the illegal sestak and romanoff job offers, CRONY CAPITALISM with GE, Goldman Sachs, GM and others, blatant extortion of money from a company (BP), intentional failure to protect our borders, willfully ignoring the legal rulings of the courts (that’s the THIRD BRANCH of the federal government, Sen. “Like all lunatic-lefties, I know nothing about the Constitution” Shumer), funneling massive amounts of taxpayer money to unions that then illegally kick-back money to the d-crat socialists, intentional failure to enforce immigration laws and the intimidation of any state or law enforcement agency that does try to enforce them, DOJ acceptance and encouragement of Blank Panther voter intimidation, outrageous race-base law enforcement by the DOJ and his many, many other offenses against America and the US Constitution.

Liberal Tormentor said:
You’re totally missing the point. We aren’t calling for impeachment, we are pointing out liberal hypocrisy. Try to keep up!

No, you’re totally missing the point, because you are setting up a false equivalency. Obama’s actions are the same as Clinton’s. They were limited air strikes with no boots on the ground for humanitarian reasons. If Obama commits troops in Libya, then he will cross the line that Dubya did by invading a country which posed no direct threat to the U.S.

So, try to keep up. If you’re pointing out liberal hypocrisy, just look at your side’s insanity as well. Everyone would be better off if we could stop all this partisan rhetoric and actually focus on solving our problems.

On the other hand, if you think it is funny, and have no problem with Obama’s actions, then stop bashing him for a policy most conservatives were begging for before they initiated the no-fly zone. (Recent polls show 73% of the tea party people support a no-fly zone, but less than half approve of Obama doing what they want him to do).

You can’t have it both ways.

BuinAlum77:

On the other hand, if you think it is funny, and have no problem with Obama’s actions, then stop bashing him for a policy most conservatives were begging for before they initiated the no-fly zone. (Recent polls show 73% of the tea party people support a no-fly zone, but less than half approve of Obama doing what they want him to do).

You can’t have it both ways.

I must have missed where I did that. The only thing I criticized him for was voting present for so long on the situation. If you are going to accuse me of something at least make sure I’m guilty first.

BruinAlum77 said:
BruinAlum77 says:
March 23, 2011 at 2:25 pm

Looks like cosmosdan has finally changed his name.

Magister said:
@Pablo: IOW -Back in my first comment on page one, I theorized that because the no-fly zone is being enforced by NATO and the Arab League, it’s not legally military action by the United States and some type of previously approved NATO agreement may be in force.

Isn’t it great that America goes to war for the UN and the Arab league now? This must be the change we’ve all been waiting for. For the first time in my life, I am becoming embarrassed by my country. Has anyone noticed that 0bama has impugned and crippled our oil industry while boosting and supporting South America’s?

justanotherconservative said:
either way you sound nuts.

Naw….he’s not nuts….he’s just dumb.

He must be an ESLer. His command of simple english and grammar is waaaaay worse than mine and I have been getting shit about it for years. The day I got my doctorate my mom asked if they knew I couldn’t spell!!! (I told her that spellcheck was my savior!!)

Anyhow lemme help the boy out……

Sky,

Insurance is something that you get in case something happens……so if this happens….then this. Kind of a no surprise type of deal. You buy car insurance so if you have an accident, you don’t get taken to the cleaners in court and at right that minute in time have the resources available to you to have you car repaired.

Now extending that pretense to Joey Hair Plugs……..Joe the Dumber is “insurance” against anything bad happening to Barry……so if Barry gets bounced before his term is up, Bite Me would then occupy the WH and nobody on God’s green earth wants that. Probably not even Joey.

There. Now you know and knowing is half the battle!! Yo Joe!!!

BTW, if you listened more and popped off less folks, wouldn’t know for a fact you were a moron.

Just tryin’ to help.

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
Seems you’re trying to say that anybody who thinks Fox viewers are a cult, MUST be a Democrat!!

I’d say you’re a nut, which has a high correlation with being a Democrat.

BruinAlum77 said:
On the other hand, if you think it is funny, and have no problem with Obama’s actions, then stop bashing him for a policy most conservatives were begging for before they initiated the no-fly zone. (Recent polls show 73% of the tea party people support a no-fly zone, but less than half approve of Obama doing what they want him to do).

You can’t have it both ways.

Yes, you can. He could do the no fly zone AND run it past Congress. Those two things go together quite nicely. Which, if you listened to Senator Obama, is what he should have done.

Since niether NBC or CBS bothered to mention hehimselftehone’s turn about on use of force without congressional approval, I expect neither one of them reports on the calls for hehimsellftehone to return the Nobel he never earned in the first place?

Just because he isn’t a republican, he has a different set of rules to abide by. the liberal loony, ever-more-looney-daily, so called news media in this country embarrasses themselves yet again.

They really are stupid and are nothing but a bunch of dnc hacks. Funny, the kutey katey air head, the bowing brian, and the ever-overly-serious Dianne should all just submit their papers, resign, and let Carney and crew read the news at night. The people would be just as informed by Carney as they are by the so-called “big three”.

Liberal Tormentor said:
I’m saying you’re claiming not to lean to one side, when that’s obviously NOT the case. I get annoyed with people who can’t be honest about who they are.

They have been doing it for over a hundred years. First they weren’t really anything and what are now called conservatives were actually liberals. Many old school conservatives will refer to themselves as “classic” liberals.

Well they wanted in on their popularity so they co-opted their “brand.” But they screwed up so much that they had to drop that and call themselves “Progressives”. Teddy Roosevelt actually ran on a Progressive party (or Bull Moose if you may) ticket for Prez. this was happening between about 1860ish and the ’20s.

Then when full on nutball Progressives like Wilson completely tarnished the brand, they dropped it like a rock and took back the liberal moniker as it hadn’t been used long enough for folks to forget.

Now they have tarnished the liberal name so bad they have to revert back to progressive. They have been whitewashing history in our schools long enough that most folks under the age of 70 have no idea what kind of real rats they are.

That’s why they hate it so much when folks talk about the Constitution and Founders.

Or call them liberals………

BruinAlum77 said:
No, you’re totally missing the point, because you are setting up a false equivalency. Obama’s actions are the same as Clinton’s. They were limited air strikes with no boots on the ground for humanitarian reasons. If Obama commits troops in Libya, then he will cross the line that Dubya did by invading a country which posed no direct threat to the U.S. So, try to keep up. If you’re pointing out liberal hypocrisy, just look at your side’s insanity as well. Everyone would be better off if we could stop all this partisan rhetoric and actually focus on solving our problems. On the other hand, if you think it is funny, and have no problem with Obama’s actions, then stop bashing him for a policy most conservatives were begging for before they initiated the no-fly zone. (Recent polls show 73% of the tea party people support a no-fly zone, but less than half approve of Obama doing what they want him to do). You can’t have it both ways.

Why touting those stats did you find one that stated whether or not those TEA Party folks that support a no fly zone did so while also supporting him not going to Congress for at minimum a AUF…..like both Clinton and Bush did.

I am not going to jump in the hole with the Ronulans and claim and AUF isn’t a quote-unquote declaration of war……but it is issued by Congress….the folks the Constitution lays out as repsonsible for that declaration….and it does authorize the President to utilize the military if he deems the need.

Bush did it. And both houses of Congress voted to allow him to prosecute war on Iraq. It was called……….

From Wiki…….

The Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002,[1] Pub.L. 107-243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War.

And just for shits and giggles let’s take a look at the numbers on that vote……for “Bush’s War”….the go it alone cowboy unilaterally killing brown people…..

House – 297 – 133 for, with 82 Dems voting in favor.
Senate – 77 – 23 for, with 29 Dems voting in favor…….BTW……this is when the Senate break down was 50 Dem, 49 Repub and one Indie (Jeffords who was really a lefty and made it known not long after this)

Yer dog won’t hunt dude. Quit making excuses and man up and admit he screwed the pooch big time and if he were a Repub would be looking a the long end of an impeachment right about now.

Forget the rank hypocricy this shows. Forget the disconnect thinking people can’t seem to understand regarding why we stop Daffy from killing his peeps yet got nothing for Bahrain. Or Syria. Or Iran. Or Egypt. Or Yemen.

Sorry…….but I think your hole is quite deep…..stop digging.

BTW, do you know why it is that Congress is supposed to declare war? Because the framers had serious reservations about the person prosecuting the war having the ability to declare it. It put one person in a position to do whatever he wanted with the military and that would make them in essense a “king’s army” and we had just had about enough of that.

Goofy Biden is just one of many Democrats who have to eat their “impeachment” and “war criminal” charges of the past.

ndanielson said:
Isn’t it great that America goes to war for the UN and the Arab league now? This must be the change we’ve all been waiting for. For the first time in my life, I am becoming embarrassed by my country. Has anyone noticed that 0bama has impugned and crippled our oil industry while boosting and supporting South America’s?

As I footnoted in a couple of comments yesterday, there are tremendous similarities between the Libyan action and the military aid/no-fly zone established by President G.H.W. Bush in ’91 to protect the Kurds. Both were the result of a Security Council resolution, both were originally proposed by France, both took some time to get an enabling resolution in place and I believe the first President Bush didn’t pre-consult Congress.

lonestar77 said:
One thing is for sure: Senator Obama would be going ape shiite over what President Obama is doing regarding Libya.

This is the best comment on this blog… LMAO

Way to be a good reporter and question what the prez is doing. Oh… wait… nevermind.

TeaPartyPatriot said:
Thanks, nader, KOOKcinich, ron paul and plagiarist-joe biden. I’ll follow your suggestion and add “war crimes” to the already long list:

IMPEACH “YOU LIE!” HUSSEIN !!!!

Speaker of the House Boehner must convene a special panel to begin IMPEACHMENT hearings for the high crimes and misdemeanors of hussein in relation to the illegal sestak and romanoff job offers, CRONY CAPITALISM with GE, Goldman Sachs, GM and others, blatant extortion of money from a company (BP), intentional failure to protect our borders, willfully ignoring the legal rulings of the courts (that’s the THIRD BRANCH of the federal government, Sen. “Like all lunatic-lefties, I know nothing about the Constitution” Shumer), funneling massive amounts of taxpayer money to unions that then illegally kick-back money to the d-crat socialists, intentional failure to enforce immigration laws and the intimidation of any state or law enforcement agency that does try to enforce them, DOJ acceptance and encouragement of Blank Panther voter intimidation, outrageous race-base law enforcement by the DOJ and his many, many other offenses against America and the US Constitution.

Remember when Pelosi said “impeachment is off the table?” Big mistake, ’cause the Repugs are gonna take down Obama. While war criminal Bush walks. Obama IS guilty. Of carrying out Bush’s war crimes.

Magister said:
As I footnoted in a couple of comments yesterday, there are tremendous similarities between the Libyan action and the military aid/no-fly zone established by President G.H.W. Bush in ‘91 to protect the Kurds. Both were the result of a Security Council resolution, both were originally proposed by France, both took some time to get an enabling resolution in place and I believe the first President Bush didn’t pre-consult Congress.

Correct. But at that time we didn’t have all these radical partisan internet blogs, so nobody called for his immediate impeachment.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
Gen. Colin Powell’s enduring contribution to American foreign policy is the Powell Doctrine, defining when and how American military power should be used. The doctrine has three main precepts: Avoid mission creep, clearly define your goals, and plan an exit strategy before you go in. Obama’s Libya intervention flunks on all three counts.

Can you name two other recent U.S. military actions that flunbked on all 3 accounts, too?

BruinAlum77 said:
No, you’re totally missing the point, because you are setting up a false equivalency. Obama’s actions are the same as Clinton’s. They were limited air strikes with no boots on the ground for humanitarian reasons. If Obama commits troops in Libya, then he will cross the line that Dubya did by invading a country which posed no direct threat to the U.S.

So, try to keep up. If you’re pointing out liberal hypocrisy, just look at your side’s insanity as well. Everyone would be better off if we could stop all this partisan rhetoric and actually focus on solving our problems.

On the other hand, if you think it is funny, and have no problem with Obama’s actions, then stop bashing him for a policy most conservatives were begging for before they initiated the no-fly zone. (Recent polls show 73% of the tea party people support a no-fly zone, but less than half approve of Obama doing what they want him to do).

You can’t have it both ways.

Well put. Yet, you get 7 thumbs down already. So many ignorant brainwashed fools here.

Magister said:
As I footnoted in a couple of comments yesterday, there are tremendous similarities between the Libyan action and the military aid/no-fly zone established by President G.H.W. Bush in ‘91 to protect the Kurds. Both were the result of a Security Council resolution, both were originally proposed by France, both took some time to get an enabling resolution in place and I believe the first President Bush didn’t pre-consult Congress.

Remind me how many tomahawk missles Bush fired, again? I forgot. How many???

ndanielson said:
Remind me how many tomahawk missles Bush fired, again? I forgot. How many???

The no-fly part of “Operation Provide Comfort” may have been more old fashioned, but the more intensive component were probably the “boots on the ground”.

Tommy “I love Obama” Christopher said:
“Despite some superficial similarities between the two situations, it’s also a poor comparison. Biden was talking about a unilateral, full-scale attack on Iran, not a UN-led no-fly zone, for which there is plenty of precedent. Whether the latter is a good idea is a subject for legitimate debate, but it’s just not the same thing.”

Are you serious Christopher? Do you really believe this drivel?

it is the same thing – but you are simply just in love with a warmonger, chicken-hawk hypocrite.

“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation”. ~ then Senator Barack Obama, December 20th, 2007.

And don’t give me the BS about the “unilaterally” comment because this refers to approval by the US congress. It has nothing to do with some foreign governmental organization such as the UN or NATO. The US Constitution is clear.

Poor Tommy. “B-b-but… this time it’s different!”

Can we please give Joe a break, his hair plugs were imbedded too deeply.

BushClintonCrimeFamily said:
Obama IS guilty. Of carrying out Bush’s war crimes.

I TOLD you folks these Liberals have driven themselves crazy.

BruinAlum77 said:
On the other hand, if you think it is funny, and have no problem with Obama’s actions, then stop bashing him for a policy most conservatives were begging for before they initiated the no-fly zone. (Recent polls show 73% of the tea party people support a no-fly zone, but less than half approve of Obama doing what they want him to do).

So, it’s impossible that they don’t think he’s handling it well because he dawdled and left it up to Sarkozy to take the lead? Or because they think he should have asked Congress for authorization? Or because the mission isn’t clearly defined? Simply because he implemented a no-fly zone, they have to approve of his handling of the situation as a whole or else be thought of as insane partisan ideologues by… an insane partisan ideologue, i.e. you?

Hey Tommy, can you spin this one for me?

Hillary Clinton On Iran And Military Action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEwQIpyu9lA&feature=player_embedded

More Liberty5 said:
Tommy “I love Obama” Christopher said:
“Despite some superficial similarities between the two situations, it’s also a poor comparison. Biden was talking about a unilateral, full-scale attack on Iran, not a UN-led no-fly zone, for which there is plenty of precedent. Whether the latter is a good idea is a subject for legitimate debate, but it’s just not the same thing.”

Are you serious Christopher? Do you really believe this drivel?

it is the same thing – but you are simply just in love with a warmonger, chicken-hawk hypocrite.

“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation”. ~ then Senator Barack Obama, December 20th, 2007.

And don’t give me the BS about the “unilaterally” comment because this refers to approval by the US congress. It has nothing to do with some foreign governmental organization such as the UN or NATO. The US Constitution is clear.

You got it right!… The only problem here is that liberals interpret things to fix their agenda. He’ll be right back interpreting “unilaterally” the correct way in this context when a conservative president is in office. I mean look at how they misinterpret the constitution. But of course they do that regardless of who is in power.

On the previous post …I meant “fit” their agenda.. Not “fix” their agenda… but fix will work in this case.

Davo said:
I TOLD you folks these Liberals have driven themselves crazy.

Liberals. huh. Unreal.

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The 1991 “No Fly Zone” in Iraq was basically an extension of the already U.N. and U.S. declared war on Iraq after its Kuwait invaision. The cease-fire agreement was vague, and our military presence remained in Iraq via Saudi Arabia, mostly … afterward. In essence, that war never really ended. It was re-kicked-off in 2003 after over a decade of Iraq flouting the various U.N. resolutions (oh, so effective are they) enacted as, and after, the “cease fire”.

Of course, a lot of our “boots” that were on the ground were stationed in Saudi Arabia — which if you will recall (although it’s been lost in all the “Bush Lied”, “Bush is Hitler”, “Kill Bush” rhetoric) was one of the primary reasons Bin Laden gave to justify …. wait for it …

9/11.

Huh. And you thought it was Halliburton.

So now that we know (via Obama’s actions in Libya) that apparently “Peace is Not the Answer”, either, can we all now admit that the answer really depends on what the question is?

VoiceofReason said:
Naw….he’s not nuts….he’s just dumb.

He must be an ESLer. His command of simple english and grammar is waaaaay worse than mine and I have been getting shit about it for years. The day I got my doctorate my mom asked if they knew I couldn’t spell!!! (I told her that spellcheck was my savior!!)

Anyhow lemme help the boy out……

Sky,

Insurance is something that you get in case something happens……so if this happens….then this. Kind of a no surprise type of deal. You buy car insurance so if you have an accident, you don’t get taken to the cleaners in court and at right that minute in time have the resources available to you to have you car repaired.

Now extending that pretense to Joey Hair Plugs……..Joe the Dumber is “insurance” against anything bad happening to Barry……so if Barry gets bounced before his term is up, Bite Me would then occupy the WH and nobody on God’s green earth wants that. Probably not even Joey.

There. Now you know and knowing is half the battle!! Yo Joe!!!

BTW, if you listened more and popped off less folks, wouldn’t know for a fact you were a moron.

Just tryin’ to help.

I think you must have a PHD from the Psychiatric Hospital not at a University. Perhaps its a Permanent Head Damage. With Writings like this, if you must attack me, please try and make it in English or clear if you can’t help yourself.

VoiceofReason said:
Actually what’s really comical is that this was posted at 1:30 and within 15 minutes all three of you assclowns had rushed in to offer your bullshit on a guy who’s:

On his way out
Done
Over
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Stupid

In fact Skyfart ran here and pounded his little screed in less than 5 minutes.

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I can hardly believe my own eyes about reading this now, we are all voting on facebook.com to Impeach the President, The South is done with him and we want him gone and its even stranger that a woman like me is leading this. Check this out, http;//www.facebook.com/r.php/Impeach President barack O’Bama.

I think that my first comment should speak volumes of what I meant I have never run for nothing  but, I would love to run for President if O’Bama could sit back and laugh at how stupid us people all R then I guess a woman could run for president and run and maybe be just as stupidified as Obama can be!

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