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Rick Perry On Immigration: ‘Doesn’t Make Any Difference What The Sound Of Your Last Name Is’

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Much has been made over Texas Governor and GOP presidential hopeful Rick Perry‘s blunt speaking style and sometimes brash attitude, but what of his, actual, you know. Political opinions? Perry stands out from many of his fellow candidates and others within his party when it comes to his stance on an issue very close to his home state: Immigration.

At one point during night’s GOP debate, co-sponsored by CNN and the Tea Party Express in Tampa, Perry — who has been open about his disapproval of Arizona’s tough stance on immigration (and, some might argue, on anyone who might “look” like an illegal immigrant, ifyoucatchmydrifthere) — was asked about his support
for a 2001 measure granting financial aid to the children of illegal immigrants in Texas:

The bottom line is it doesn’t make any difference what the sound of your last name is. That is the American way. I’m proud that we are having those individuals be contributing members of our society rather than telling them, you go be on the government dole.

That stance was booed by many in last night’s audience, and met with disagreement by Perry’s fellow candidates, but Perry, who has had experience dealing with immigration matters, is making a strategic — if bold — move. As the Governor of a state with a huge Latino population, Perry knows that his success in politics hinges partially on his ability to garner their votes and support. Catering to Latinos for whom immigration is a huge issue (while noting that this isn’t an issue for all Latino voters) might also help the GOP draw in an ever-growing segment of the population the party has had a recent history of alienating.

But by no means does that mean Peryr is “soft” on immigration. Previously, the Governor offered harsh criticism of the Obama administration’s stance on border control, even calling Obama “a stand-up comic” who did not take the issue of border security as seriously as he needs to.

h/t CNN.com

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  • Anonymous

    Good for him.  

    Rick Perry and I agree on very little, but at least he has the basic decency not to punish the children of illegal immigrants for decisions over which they had no control.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    It would be impossible to govern a minority majority state so heavily populated by Hispanic immigrants without allowing basic access to opportunity. Perry deserves credit for sticking to his proverbial guns.

  • Anonymous

    Nobody’s perfect and he’s an example of that.  I disagree with him on his attitude towards illegal immigration(I’m an Arizonan and love SB1070), but the rest of the time hist head seems to be screwed on his shoulder right.  Given the field, he’s still the best there by a long shot.

    I don’t think the quote from above really means much one way or the other.  He sort of dodged the question at hand and made a general anti-racist statement.  I guess I’ll give him some slack because there’s such a massive latino population there, your opinion will probably change some.

  • Re-Elect Obama 2012

    The tea party should be calling for his scalp over this. 

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    It is, indeed, one of the few issues with which I agree with Tollbooth. The simple fact is border, demographic, immigrant and Hispanic issues in Texas have always been different than those in other states. It would be foolish to claim that we are somehow more enlightened, more tolerant, but there has been since the early and mid 19th Century a type of assimilation here that is not found elsewhere. It is not simply the numbers of Hispanic-Texans, but the greater degree to which they have participated in, worked with we later arriving Anglos, in the social and economic life and development of Texas. We don’t have the same degree of xenophobia found in Arizona or even California.

  • Re-Elect Obama 2012

    Yes, but that is financial aid that could go to citizen Anglos.

  • Anonymous

    Wonder what the crazy part of the part would think about this? They are at a loss, they can’t find someone that has the perfect mixture of ignorance in his DNA. Christie the other potential appoints a (Terrorist) Muslim to the supreme court while denouncing there madness. 

  • Anonymous

    Perry understands that the illegal immigration issue is not easily solvable. Any effective approach must first address border security- and a fence along the whole border is not the solution- it has to be a combination of “boots on the ground,” drones, fencing where viable, surveillance where possible. The illegal entry problem has to be segregated into two categories- criminal/terrorist entries and ordinary worker entries. 

    Tightening of the borders has to be accompanied by an ENFORCED E-VERIFY Program with severe penalties for businesses that violate it and strict penalties for illegal entry. Also, giving entitlements to illegal immigrants MUST STOP- especially since entitlement programs for our own citizens are bankrupting the country. We must stop encouraging illegals from coming to the U.S. to benefit from our entitlement programs.

    First, the borders need to be secured- both for national security and for solving the problems of illegal immigrants. But, the problem needs a multi-pronged approach and Perry is aware of the pitfalls.

  • Pit Boss

    I’m not sure if most of his supporters even knew this about him. It could end up being his downfall. Although I do agree with him on this issue as a non-xenophobic Arizonan, his reasons for “tolerance” are purely financial.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe I agree with RRE, but he’s right about the degree of assimilation of Hispanic-Texans. 

  • Anonymous

    Oh go to hell you stupid bastard.  Arizonans aren’t xenophobic.  Illegal immigration costs us potentially billions(if you agree or not, there’s a study by FAIR saying $2.7 billion and Arizona is already in a huge hole as it is) and there’s the lives that are lost by illegal aliens who shouldn’t be here to begin with.

    And if you’re non-xenophobic, must be pretty hard here, what 70% of Arizona disagrees with you?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    There are just not that many babies carried across the border who end up wanting or able to attend college.  And it’s just IN-STATE tuition- not free.  It’s such a non issue it’s laughable.  Teenage Mexicans who cross the border don’t come here to go to highschool or college.  They come here to work.

  • caconservative

    Punish? Is that the Liberal-term now being used to justify the unjustifiable?! Just who is being punished in this little illegal alien parasite scheme?! The illegal alien who have no moral, or legal right to be here in the first place, or, the legal children of the United States who are being cheated out of the use of funds paid for by the legal citizens for the specific use of their children?!! Since when is it punishment to demand that people who came here ILLEGALLY, take responsibility for placing their own children in the middle of a criminal act, and remove themselves and their children back to their country of jurisdiction? When did it become fashionable for our children to pushed aside to make room for people who are not suppose to be here?!!   

  • caconservative

    Illegal is, ILLEGAL, in any state!! No amount of corrupted ideology will change the fact that people have come here illegally, and are stealing from the legal citizens of this country on a scale that is unsustainable! California is hundreds of millions of dollars in the red because illegal alien parasites are robbing us blind. This state is broke!!
    Tell me about xenophobia again!! What part of BROKE, don’t you get?!!!!!!

  • caconservative

    Thanks for that coherent statement.

  • caconservative

    What an absolutely ridiculous statement!!

  • Anonymous

    Wrong. You clearly don’t live near a border. They cross everyday to go to school especially junior colleges, and with California’s Dream Act they will all be migrating here since they can now apply for federally funded college loans to pay for school (like we really can afford to pay for it). After the borders were closed on 9-11 over 450 kids were missing from our local elementary school district, WHY- because they were stuck at their home across the border.
    This is huge issue, and it isn’t all about work… the main controversy is about taking the resources, entitlement, and funding, usually offered discriminately, from legitimate citizens, paid for by taxpayer dollars.The belief that many of the children are not aware their parents are here illegally is false, while many who came here as small children had no choice, they should be given one at 18, to become a US citizen (not automatic amnesty). That would take care of any legitimacy problems as they would be full taxpaying citizens. I don’t see why any of them would have a problem with those terms. It doesn’t take care of the status of their illegal parents but for the next generation they should be proud to finally become a legal American.

  • caconservative

    A massive illegal alien parasite population that even the legal Mexican population is now reeling against. Loss of jobs and social services you’ve paid for will quickly open your eyes to why illegal alien immigration is against the law, and why immigration law must be strictly enforced. 

  • Bituj

    FULLY  AGREE. ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.  WHY R WE PANDERING TO ILLEGALS.
    HOPE JERRY BROWN WL VETO THE BILL BEFORE HIM ABOUT GIVING AID FR ILLEGALS TO GO TO COLLEGE,
    ITS CRAZY, MADNESS.

  • Anonymous

    That may be true, but tell me one thing: what can the President do alone on immigration?  We can expect Obama’s Dream Act EO to be overturned by whoever gets in, but that’s about it.  Will the republicans in the house allow any bill to go through that helps the illegals?  No.  Will the Senate?  No.

    And, being an Arizonan, I know full well what happens with illegal aliens coming through.  And I know full well the benefit of putting the NG on the border as Perry has strongly advocated.

    With politicians, you often have to pick your poison.  No one’s perfect.  But as bad as he is on this, he’s limited to what he can actually do.

  • caconservative

    Yes, the illegal alien problem can be easily solved! It’s the paid-for politicians who are getting in the way. Anyone who crosses our borders illegally should be looked at as a potential terrorist and treated as such. A two pronged approach is all that is necessary. (1) Secure the border, (2) round up and deport all illegal alien parasites! The only thing Perry is conscious of is the amount of election money he is getting from the illegal alien Texas employers!! Perry is, and has always been a RINO!

  • caconservative

    Xenophobia is the Mexican equivalent of the race card! When you have No moral, or legal argument, you fall on racism in what ever form fits your special need and hope there will be enough fools to buy into the non-argument! How about they face the fact that the moment they stepped foot into our country without being invited, or welcomed, they committed a crime, and told us where we could put our immigration laws. Let’s start, and end with that premise whenever we discuss illegal alien parasites because, there is no rational discussion of anything after that!! We do not bargain with the concept of criminal! 

  • caconservative

    Are you living on the border? Do you have any idea of what is actually going on at the border because, after reading your remarks I can’t imagine you living anywhere near the border. Walk into any border hospital and ask how many women cross the border illegally just to have their baby’s born on the U.S. side, so they can qualify for welfare, housing, food stamps, and anything else they can get for free, and use that child as an anchor-baby to stay here! Feel free to come to the border and ask any illegal alien why their here. I have, and every one of them said WELFARE!! Jobs were way down the list!!

  • Anonymous

    In 1982, Plyler vs Doe, the US Supreme Court said that children of illegal immigrants were entitled to attend our schools at the taxpayer expense UNLESS the congress of the United States addressed the matter in legislation.  Thus far, neither republican nor democrat majorities have addressed it.  We now have so much invested in the education of these children that it seems stupid to me not to invest more to see that they can contribute more to our country – and most want to and do. 
    When brought here as children, they weren’t the criminals – it was their parents.  Let the parents be punished but why should we punish the children?

  • caconservative

    This government is in the middle of a pissing contest with border states. How about they get the hell out of the way and allow the states to enforce the immigration law this government is conveniently ignoring!
    He’s limited? Don’t confuse limitations with selective non-enforcement. The Border Patrol and law enforcement agencies all along the border have been asking for help in the form of the National Guard for years, and they’ve been ignored. Purposely ignored!!
    I too have lived near the border, in CA, and Texas. Anyone who has lived there can attest to how absolutely laughable the governments justifications are.  

  • Anonymous

    So, what am I to make of your first paragraph there?  It sounds almost like you’re arguing Perry’s argument word for word.  Need a candidate who’s strong on the 10th amendment?  Not sure there’s a stronger one than Perry(Well, Ron Paul perhaps, but Ron Paul’s going no where).

    Um, well, Rick Perry basically called Obama an abject liar when he said the border was secure, so not exactly sure where you’re going with your rant.  Did Perry give blanket amnesty to parents who brought their children over?  No don’t think so.  And I can tell you some pretty bad stories about the border also.

    I think I just wasted my time responding to you.  Clearly, you have no grasp of the facts.  I mean, being against illegal immigration is great, but you clearly don’t know anything beyond talking points.

  • Ccrazyhorz

    I think that Perry is a man that goes WITH the wind, and will say or DO anything that will only ENHANCE his chances to be on the presidential ticket. Inotherwords, he will SAY anything one minute, and if it doesn’t go over BIG, he will reverse and go in the OPPOSITE direction the next. I don’t like a MAN with 2 FACES, and that is what Perry is showing us BEFORE and DURING these debates.. Not TRUSTWORTHY, and is a politician with a FORKED TONGUE.

  • Anonymous

    Bry the bry, any of you hating xenophobes, before you lynch Perry on this, realize that non other than Apple’s Steve Jobs is an anchor baby from a Syrian father?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Obama has doubled his lead over Rick Parry in two weeks, guess that is why he wrote the op ed saying “I am sorry about saying SS was a Ponzi scheme!”. Not worried.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    I live in Austin and have been to the border many times.  There are less than 2 million people out of the 25 million in Texas that live in the valley.  It’s still a small amount of those people who moved across the border illegally that attend college.  It’s just not that big of a deal.  We should be encouraging people to go to college.  Paying for illegal’s hospital bills is a different story.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPOX7QKJCIVFGUSF5W2W4Z4LXE esther

    What is so ridiculous about this statement???? I agree with you Greg!

  • Anonymous

     Matthew 25:35.

  • Anonymous

    I think Rick Perry being Governor of Texas understands the reality of what is happening on the ground. It’s a complex issue and it serves no purpose to use the same old obvious stereotypes. 

    The grass is greener here and that’s why everyone keeps coming. Just ask the Native American Indian. I wonder how they feel about border control?

    It’s a complex issue and its not going away anytime soon. Even Sheriff Joe Arpaio recognizes it it has to be dealt with properly and so does Perry.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPOX7QKJCIVFGUSF5W2W4Z4LXE esther

    You are the reason the GOP can’t get the Hispanic vote, I live here in Texas, it is turning into a dominate Hispanic state, not far to go and Gov. Perry is ahead of the game, I guarantee you if he wins the nomination he will steal a huge amount of the Hispanic vote from obama, and these are legal Hispanics, not every Hispanic is illegal, there is a majority here in Texas that are legal. And many of the college kids getting tuition help, well their parents are in process of being legal, those are the facts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPOX7QKJCIVFGUSF5W2W4Z4LXE esther

    oh pleaseeee, you wish! I pray the teaparty does not listen to your advise because thats exactly what you would want, get rid of Gov. Perry because when he stands next to your guy , its over.

  • Bob

    Today seems to be Perry’s apology tour. He suddenly decided he didn’t like the audience cheering for death at the GOP, and now this. Guess someone gave him a memo that he’s coming off too wingnutty, so now he’s trying to pretend he’s more reasonable.
    Wonder when he’ll apologize for the secession-flirting?

  • Anonymous

    I disagree with you about Perry. He’s far more fiscally conservative than any of the Bushes ever thought of being. He’s no RINO. Now, Huntsman, on the other hand, really should change his party affiliation and primary Obama. HE’S definitely in the wrong party!

    You’re right about securing the borders- it is essential on both the terrorism front, on the drug cartel front and on the immigration front. The FIRST job of government is to PROTECT ITS CITIZENS.

    Secondly, make hiring illegal immigrants EXTREMELY ONEROUS for employers. 

    Thirdly, illegal immigrants SHOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR ANY entitlement programs- period. It is not the job of the government of the UNITED STATES to provide services for CITIZENS of another country. (I do not know much about the criteria for legal immigration, but I would hope that it includes an ability to pay for oneself. If not, we need to change that.)

    In other words, stop making it DESIRABLE to illegally immigrate to the U.S.

    After securing the borders, CHANGE THE LAW regarding automatic citizenship for persons born on U.S. soil. Since the courts misinterpreted the Constitution on this matter, we must legislate for the future. 

    Make CITIZENSHIP and SOVEREIGNTY important and unequivocal.

    Then, initiate a guest worker program with a component that requires payment of either a bond or automatic payroll deductions to pay for medical services rendered while in the U.S.

    Just a few workable ideas. 

  • Anonymous

    Jobs’ mother was an American citizen, put the baby up for adoption, and Jobs was adopted by an American family. He doesn’t qualify as an anchor baby- that was dumb.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Francis/100002158029860 Dave Francis

     

    HELP YOUR
    COUNTRYMAN AND WOMEN JOB SEEKERS.

    A women from
    Caribbean who procured a deceased child’s Social Security number, is just one
    of the hundreds of thousands that are stolen every year.  Any private
    investigator or researcher can explain that obituaries can glean a new
    identity, by searching for young children who have recently died or were in an
    unfortunate accident or brought down by illness. A researcher can go to any
    rural newspaper, which publishes those deceased columns, near to their age and
    get the basic material to acquire the personal details of that individual and
    take on that identity. Annually the American people are finding their credit
    compromised by criminal illegal aliens or nefarious individuals.

    There is a billion dollar business with the protection of Citizen or green card
    possessor, but even so hundreds of people have found their credit crippled or
    even the theft of the equity in their homes. The majority of illegal aliens
    make up their own number, but the criminal element or the temptation is already
    there to steal somebody’s person information. In 1999 I found myself in the
    same predicament, when I was at a car dealership, finding that my Social
    Security was being used by 3 other people. I contacted the Social Security telling
    them a person unknown to me, was employed at a San Antonio, Texas Security
    company using my name and SSN. That said, I never heard any word about the
    crime of any of these three people. Like so many other people, I informed the
    police, and then began the long road back to reviving my good credit.

    This escalation of foreign nationals and other criminals stealing people’s
    identity, the federal government should assess issuing a mandatory official
    picture Identity card to every American. The cost would be a worthwhile causing
    to halt the theft of people’s personal details, even if it the final tally was
    a billion dollars to pay for it? This personal ID card could be used for voting
    (that has been badly compromised by the Liberals and Democrats that seem unconcerned
    of illegal aliens voting) Illegal immigration has effected every bodies life,
    including jobs, the economy of 113 billions of dollars hemorrhaging from both
    federal and state treasuries. In fact another Amnesty that both sides are
    pushing Congress for, would be 2.5 trillion dollars from your pockets in taxes.

    IT IS TIME FOR AN OFFICIAL ID CARD, WHICH CAN BE CROSS-REFERENCED WITH
    OTHER ID SUCH AS A DRIVERS LICENSE, MILITARY, STATE OR EVEN A PASSPORT.

    If you come to America unlawfully; it should be punished as a felony. This is
    absolutely ludicrous that foreigners can steal not only your credit, but the
    equity in your home as well. Even small businesses are not exempt from theft,
    finding ways to promote credit lines and then disappearing into the streets. No
    new laws to aid the US population will be enacted by the GOP establishment or
    any Liberal or Democratic politician. The TEA PARTY leadership will stand firm
    against the Rick Perry, Mitt Romney or any other Presidential precursor
    for the White House. Either man has a failing grade in stopping the
    invasion of illegal immigrants from across the globe. Perry specifically, as in
    his earlier speeches advised the Texas legislators to pass another amnesty as
    well as taxpayer paid tuition for the children of illegal aliens; another State
    Dream Act.  Only Michele Bachmann has the
    highest grade on NumbersUSA website.

    No business will be exempt from observing the immigration law of 1986, which
    will be punished by the full extent of the law. Amnesties will be a thing of
    the past and entry into the United States, will be with the permission of the
    people. Dream Acts or Sanctuary cities will be none existent under the elected
    government of the TEA PARTY. The 20 million plus living here through unlawful
    entrance will eventually be caught and deported.

    As a second urgent point the Rep. Lamar Smith E-VERIFY BILL TO BE ‘ON THE TABLE’
    IN JUDICIARY COMMITTEE THIS THURSDAY, PLEASE PHONE YOUR U.S. REPRESENTATIVE ON
    THE COMMITTEE. THERE ARE OVER 14 AMERICANS JOBLESS AND THE PUBLIC WHO BELIEVE
    THAT IT’S TIME TO EJECT ILLEGAL WORKERS FROM THE JOB MARKET.

    It is finally
    happening! A mandatory E-Verify bill is moving through committee. We can see
    this into law THIS FALL — if we push hard enough. Go to NUMBERSUSA to phone
    and insist on this bill be passed.

    Legislation is finally moving through committee (a) to mandate E-Verify
    nationally, (b) to take away the ability of illegal aliens to use stolen
    identities to steal American jobs, (c) and to begin opening up hundreds of
    thousands of construction, manufacturing and service jobs for unemployed
    Americans.

    The “mark-up” (the process of considering amendments and voting out
    the bill) was announced to start Thursday morning.

    Now is the time to pour every bit of activism you can give to helping Members
    of the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary understand why they must pass
    this bill.

    H.R. 2885

    New Bill Number for Lamar Smith’s “Legal Workforce Act”

    Since Rep. Smith (R-Texas) introduced this bill early in the year (as bill
    number H.R. 2164), he has gotten a lot of feedback and made enough changes to
    decide to re-introduce the bill under a different number.

    INCLUDES A NEW PROVISION TO HELP STATE AND LOCAL ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION
    LAWS

    All the basic elements that we’ve described in the past are still in the bill
    (despite huge efforts by powerful forces to water it down).

    But this bill has a wonderful addition.

    The bill creates an office within ICE Immigration and Customs Enforcement
    (ICE), whose sole purpose is to respond to — and investigate — state and
    local governmental agency complaints about businesses hiring and/or employing
    illegal immigrants.

    This new office is required to respond within five business days of the filing
    of the complaint.

    Attorneys General, prosecutors and other state and local officials who believe
    they see a pattern of a business employing illegal aliens will have a direct
    line to ICE with a guarantee of rapid response. As these complaints will be a
    matter of public record, failure of ICE to obey the law will provide direct
    evidence for congressional hearings into Administration misfeasance.

    Fortunately, another office of this type that has been operating as a complaint
    desk on another immigration matter has a reported high degree of compliance by
    the feds and satisfaction by state and local officials.

    Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) is the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee. Major
    forces have attempted to get him to keep postponing the moving of this bill. We
    had campaigned hard to get a vote in committee before the August recess. We are
    ecstatic that Chairman Smith has made this bill such a priority and are moving
    this so soon after Labor Day.

    202-224-3121

    Capitol Switchboard

    Go to the Heritage Foundation website, NumbersUSA or Judicial
    Watch and read for the dollar figures that will turn your stomach sour.
    Discover information at American Patrol, the Liberals and Democrats want
    to keep concealed.

  • Anonymous

    The last time Perry saw any border was for a photo-op. His concerns in Texas right now is how to suppress the Latino vote while collecing as much cash as he can for his campaign.

  • Pit Boss

    If you buy the results of any studies by FAIR I have some oceanfront land in the heart of Arizona to sell you. FAIR wrote SB1070 you idiot. Of course they’re going to support their own nativist views with a “study.”

    Whatever you do, DON’T do any research on the whole private prison industrial complex being carried out in Arizona right now, that would put tens of thousands of illegals into their private prisons and line the pockets of Governor Brewer and her buddies in the state legislature. Our Governor and her campaign staff have financial interests in these prisons. In fact, her campaign manager is a lobbyist for the company building the prisons.Meanwhile, crime in Arizona is lower than it’s been since, what, the 1970s? And corruption in “Sheriff Joe’s” Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office is rampant. He’s paid out over $50 million in taxpayer monies for settlements for people who’ve died or were wrongly arrested under his watch, and another $60 Million in legal fees (also Taxpayer funded). Meanwhile, hundreds of child sex abuse cases never get looked at, presumably because Arpaio doesn’t have time to worry about that kind of stuff while he’s conducting “employer sanctions laws”-based raids that have never led to the arrest or fining of one business owner who hires illegals.

    If you need the sources just let me know.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPOX7QKJCIVFGUSF5W2W4Z4LXE esther

    God you are such a lier, I also live near a border and have my whole life, I am Hispanic and my great-grandfather came here hearly 1900, so don’t start attacking me, Im legal but live around many illegals that are in process of becoming Americans, they do not come here just to get on welfare, and most are not on it, I’m also a conservative and proud of it but your statements here are outrageous, I would guess you are that part of the audience that clapped last night at the debate against illegals, all illegals are not Hispanics, there are Irish illegals, Indian illegals, and most are in process of becoming Americans, but if you are really a conservative then you give our party a bad name, your a bigot, downright stupid, these mothers that are having babies in the hospital you are so wrong about, many of them do not want a handout, they want to be Americans, they want their baby to be American, do you know how they lived in Mexico, in cardboard made houses, their gov. there is disgusting, but how dare you say everyone of them said WELFARE! Get your facts right, Gov. Perry is doing the right thing, he sees it firsthand and knows they are not all here to get WELFARE. You are a very sad person. sick.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, B.S. 

    Requiring IDENTIFICATION in order to vote is NOT voter suppression, it’s merely an imperfect tool to try to overcome the VOTER FRAUD perpetrated by Democrat supported groups like ACORN and SEIU.

  • Pit Boss

    Sure, let’s start there. Where does that leave us? In dire need of immigration reform. But what happens when people try to bring up reform? It’s called “amnesty” and dismissed by dolts like you.

    And as a California (I assume the “ca” is not for Canada) Conservative, you should know who the last president was who implemented amnesty in this country.

    By the way, entering the country illegally is a misdemeanor, just like jay walking.

  • Anonymous

    I like how you provided evidence to the contrary of FAIR’s position.  It really makes you believable.

    You provided no evidence backing up your claim and I’m not going to waste my time looking for your stuff.  My guess?  Maybe you’re onto something.  But, as of yet, even though Joe has been investigated by the federal government more than a few times, there’s still been no charges brought against him.  The problem with what you’re insisting is that your argument must include a few other possibilities.  The main problem I have really is, well, let’s say that child sex slaves are being ignored by Arpiao.  Interesting fact: he has to run for election.  Am I to believe that this is true, but democrats can’t even mount a proper investigation of this or slander him with it?  That’s completely retarded(which would make some sense thinking about it because democrats are suing the state and expect to pick it up next election).

    Don’t bother getting the links.  Not everything you read is true.

  • Anonymous

    That’s just nuts. Perry PANDERS for the Latino vote. Where have you been?

  • Anonymous

    Bullshit! Perry leads Obama 44-41 in the latest Rasmussen poll, and Obama’s numbers have never been lower! Check any poll you want!

  • Anonymous

    There’s been a plethora of dumb posts on this thread.

  • Anonymous

    Another ignorant poster.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, dummy, the issue is ILLEGAL immigration. There’s nothing bigoted about being against it. It’s irrelevant whether illegal aliens come here to work, to school, get on welfare, or whatever. The bottom line is, THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE! You really need to get an education.

  • Anonymous

    There are cases where it’s a felony.

  • Anonymous

    Who’s the idiot, moron? FAIR did not write SB1070. It was written by Arizona Senator Russell Pierce and an attorney, Kris Kobach.

  • Anonymous

    Right on, ca.

  • Anonymous

    Love your post! Your last paragraph was especially salient, because you need to require a bond to insure that they don’t overstay their work period, like permanently.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I’ve always been curious about why that is. It seems like a lot of people in Texas just don’t really care about illegal immigration.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I’ve always been curious about why that is. It seems like a lot of people in Texas just don’t really care about illegal immigration.

  • Anonymous

    Voter ID is meant to suppress voters who are poor or old.  It’s another attempt by the party of no to bring back the days of poll taxes. It’s unconstitutional and un-American.

    Btw, nice caps. That really gets you the attention you deserve.

  • Anonymous

    Perry supresses Latino vote and that PANDERS in some way to them?

    Lógica muy extraño.

  • Anonymous

    Perry supresses Latino vote and that PANDERS in some way to them?

    Lógica muy extraño.

  • Anonymous

    No, you fool, he doesn’t SUPPRESS the Latino vote. I don’t know where you’re getting that from.

  • Anonymous

    No, you fool, he doesn’t SUPPRESS the Latino vote. I don’t know where you’re getting that from.

  • Anonymous

    Photo identification for the purpose of voting in the appropriate district in which one resides is not the equivalent of a poll tax, and just because you say it, doesn’t make it so. 

    It just makes it a little harder for the Democrats to perpetrate their usual voter fraud. However, it doesn’t stop voter fraud, as exemplified by Uncle Omar in Boston- he had a fraudulent SS # and a driver’s license.

     At least, requiring a photo ID is a small start at correcting a major problem.

  • Anonymous

    The people of Texas know the real Rick Perry.  He’s another slimeball politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth. Another Dubya without the scruples or the brains.

  • caconservative

    What is ridiculous about giving illegal aliens access?! Are you kidding me!! What part of that crap makes sense to you?

  • Anonymous

    I’m not even going to dignify this hateful diatribe with a response.  I hope you sleep well.

  • Anonymous

    Time to get giddy. Sixteen months till Nancy P is the Speaker of the House again. And Barry is an elected second term president (unlike the last one).  Happy days are here again. And the reign of the party of fuck no to anybody who is not filty rich will be in the minority where it belongs. Power to the people.

  • caconservative

    Perry only attacks the the “issue” of illegal aliens, he never enforces those issues. Perry can talk out of both sides of his mouth like any other political beggar.
    And like Perry, your inability to grasp the hypocrisy in this issue is reason enough to never reply to any of my posts. Please don’t disappoint me!  

  • Anonymous

    Poor lost soul.

  • Anonymous

    In other words, suppress the people who aren’t like you or who have limited access to transportation or who happen to be Democrats, or happen to be old and bedridden, or who happen to be poor and can’t afford to take time from work to get a photo id, or who live in an area where the state has closed its local DMV, etc, etc, etc.

    There have been almost zero cases of voter fraud in the last thiry years. It’s a red herring that the rightwing echo chamber has been screaming about for a decade. Keep watchng Fixed Nooze and remain ignorant. But maybe you’re happy there in the bubble.

  • caconservative

    If that means NOT kowtowing to illegal aliens and the scumbag that support them, then maybe your right. If that means upholding the law, commonsense, defending our culture, and sovereignty, then maybe your right.
    At some point you and the rest of the Liberals are going to have to make the distinction between legal, and illegal Hispanics, and aliens in general. I live in California. NOT one legal Mexican American I know supports illegal alien immigration. They, along with any other right thinking American knows just how harmful illegal aliens are to this country.
    It clear to me from your remarks that your in favor of the wants of illegal alien parasites over legal American citizens and students. That’s really reprehenisble!    

  • Anonymous

    Keep the faith, la, your party appreciates your blind support. And please send them money. They think people like you are adorable.

  • caconservative

    The Tea-Party will not openly support an illegal alien butt kissing candidate like Perry. This two faced RINO’s own record in Texas will soon catch him.

  • Pit Boss

    Kris Kobach wrote the law and he’s a lawyer for FAIR:

    Immigrant Rights blogger Danny Rangel already put the spotlight on Russell Pearce, the anti-immigrant state senator who pushed this bill to fruition and likes photo ops with neo-Nazis. But politicians aren’t usually the ones sitting down at the computer and designing a bill. So for the major architect of SB 1070, we need to look to Kris Kobach, a lawyer for FAIR, which is designated a nativist hate group with close ties to white supremacist organizations by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
    http://thinkprogress.org/security/2010/04/29/176032/kris-kobach-immigration/

    Also, from FAIR’s site:

    “FAIR’s legal affiliate, the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) assisted Senator Pearce in drafting the language of SB1070. IRLI, the nation’s leader in developing immigration enforcement legislation at the state level, has counseled lawmakers across the country on every innovative approach in the field of cooperative state immigration enforcement law since 2001.”
    http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=22725&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1741

  • Anonymous

    Or like the students in Ohio, who voted in their home districts AND in the districts in which they were volunteering for Obama. Your arguments are specious.

  • caconservative

    I agree with most of your remarks. As you’ve noticed I’m not a Perry admirer. When a candidate cannot grasp the full extent of enforcing immigration law, to the benefit of the legal citizens, he/she is not supporting, not only conservative values but, American values in general. Two opposing cultures cannot exist in the same geographic area harmoniously. That’s a given. Without proper, lawful immigration of people who want to join in our culture, and way of life, we are setting ourselves up for failure.
    God forbid, Perry does become the candidate, I will, holding my nose, vote for him because the alternative is just that bad!  

  • Anonymous

     Hey, Man.  That’s some really good s..t you’ve got there.  Know where I can get some?  Like, Far Out.

  • Anonymous

     You mean, the guy whose company outsources all of its production to China?  Which uses foreign subsidiaries to shield its profits from US taxes?  Who evades Social Security taxes by taking all his compensation in stock options and “works” for $1 a year?  You mean that slimeball?

  • caconservative

    I’m not getting this. You attack me because I think Perry’s platform regarding the illegal alien issue is two-faced, and yet you support Arizona’s right to protect it’s borders and population from illegal aliens. Which is it? Do you think the legal citizens of Texas are living harmoniously with the illegal aliens? Don’t you think they want Perry to have the balls Gov. Brewer has? Are the rights of legal Texas citizens any different than those of Arizona?

  • Anonymous

     If you have documentation of the case in Ohio, now would be the time to produce it. Otherwise, STFU.

  • caconservative

    Your implying those studies are wrong. How are they wrong? Please list your sources.
    Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    “Far out.” I’m glad that term isn’t totally dead. Haven’t heard anyone use it since about 1974 (LOL!)

  • Anonymous

    At first I was happy to see perry get in the race. The more I see him the less impressed I am. He struts around like a little Banty rooster. His attempts at whitty one liners normally fall short. He should study Newt on that score. Romney will win out in the end.

  • caconservative

    We have a perfectly good law in existence now, “U.S. Codes, Title 8, Aliens and Nationality”. The one Obimbo doesn’t want to enforce! Of course, by immigration reform, you mean amnesty don’t you. By any definition, you mean amnesty. And that is of course, is why we dismiss that absurd attempt at dismissal of our immigration laws.
    Ronald Reagan granted amnesty, with the proviso that, we would never again grant amnesty. I’ll bet you forgot about that last part, didn’t you? Probably on purpose….. 
    Why is illegal alien, parasite trespassing considered a misdemeanor? What possible political reason can you come up with that can support that ridiculous reasoning? Could it have been, paid corruption? I’d like to know why you, or any legal American would be supporting people who have NO legal, or moral argument for being here? Would you allow someone to enter your house, tell you, you have to support them and their children, provide them with health care, education, and anything else they can steal, to the detriment of your own family. Well, you probably would because, your remarks show a distinct lack of character but, the rest of us would forcibly remove those illegal trespassing parasites, wouldn’t we?  

  • caconservative

    It shoud be a felony from the outset!!

  • Jesussaves

    Perry is a beaner lover?! Forget this , i didnt work so hard in the tea party to support this mexican lover!! My vote goes to bacman, god willing a true christian will win!

  • caconservative

    What?!!! ONE illegal ass sitting in an American school desk, means ONE legal American student just got shit on!! It’s NOT A BIG DEAL?!! I’ll bet it is to the legal American student that lost that seat. We should be ensuring that only legal citizens and immigrants are using OUR SCHOOLS…period! How many corrupt ways can you people come up with to justify screwing our own children?! What the hells wrong with you people?? We are a soverign Nation with borders. Why do you think those borders exist?

  • caconservative

    We’ve got American children who can’t afford to go to college and you think we should give a RAT-ASS about supporting foreigners? Wake the hell up!!

  • caconservative

    Whoa, your defending illegal aliens who are in the process….? Process of what? Screwing immigrants who have done the honorable thing and are abiding by our immigration laws? Your justifying that crap??!! You, are what’s wrong with this immigration debate! You and the rest of the illegal parasites that think just because they were able to sneak in, like thieves in the night, and remain here, that they somehow should be given special treatment? The only thing sick here, is your convoluted distinction between ”right and wrong”!! With upward of 71% of illegal aliens parasites on some form of welfare ( ILLEGALLY) what part of this argument are you not understanding?!  
    You sir, are an idiot!! An UN-Amercan idiot!!

  • caconservative

    Just yours!

  • Anonymous

    Why would you say that to me? I’ve always been supportive of you!

  • http://societyfordaintydamsels.wordpress.com Fennel

    In talking on both sides of his mouth, (Rick Perry) he doesn’t seem that much different that most politicos. lol.  My mother repeatedly told me actions speak louder than words. Lets face it since TX is one of the states with a high number of Hispanics,aka Latinos its politically wise to cater to them.  BTW I have nothing against Latinas/Latinos.  I work with them and Puerto Rican woman is friends with my sister.   Ironic you, Crasyhorz,  wrote politician who speaks with a FORKED TONGUE since that’s as far as I know a Native American expression.  re: illegal immigrants issue.  Unsure what to do with the one’s here.  However I too think the border patrols should be enforced much more strongly. However that would mean more revenue, ie taxes and you know how the Teaparty feels about spending. lol

     

  • Anonymous

    My youngest was born in 1974.  It was just before I became untrustworthy.  Plus, I watch old Cheech & Chong movies when I’m not annoying Mediaite.

  • Jim213

    Illegal is illegal period ! Send them to Iraq and if they come back we will put them in a lottery to can citizenship.

  • Jim213

    Rick Perry is a dmocratic plant plain and simple. He was put in to make fun of the GOP’s platform. Worst thing is he is doing a great job of it and the GOP hasn’t a clue.

  • Hagen619dj

    I live in Texas 6 mo. of the year.  Perry is “trying’ do his best for these people. If you saw the circumstances of their lives you would understand. To judge without being in the area of judgement is unfair. Hispanic people in the gulf are very nice people. They work hard and do the work that “true” Americans refuse to do. An Hispanic person can outwork any American…hands down. They sneak over the border to make life better for their families. They work on the American side and send the money back to Mexico.  wouldn’t it be better if they left their money here where they would love to be but can’t get their families over here because of immigration. to do that means to subject their families to the desert to get across. To go for days without food and water to hide out from border patrol. Border patrol are kind to them and when caught are processed and taken back across the border. Most are men, very few women can make the trip. They struggle with their lives to get here only to be caught, but the erge to feed their families is so strong they are willing to do the process over and over.  Right now the drug cartels are killing their own people to gain control of what little they have. The cartel is ruthless and all they want is money that “Americans” give them for the drugs they supply.  Yes, if the Americans didn’t buy the drugs they would have no need for all the fighting.  You want to see that wonderful border fence that is “up”.  It’s being climbed, tunneled under and just plain walked thru in it’s openings. No fence is going to work to keep them out. They only want to work and feed their families.  They are trying to crack down on the employers who sneak them across but there again, money talks. Some of them are blackmailed into giving over large amt’s of money to a handler only to lose their lives being locked in a trailer somewhere in the heat. It’s pittiful how they are treated just to get the freedoms we enjoy.

  • Hagen619dj

    I live in Texas 6 mo. of the year.  Perry is “trying’ do his best for these people. If you saw the circumstances of their lives you would understand. To judge without being in the area of judgement is unfair. Hispanic people in the gulf are very nice people. They work hard and do the work that “true” Americans refuse to do. An Hispanic person can outwork any American…hands down. They sneak over the border to make life better for their families. They work on the American side and send the money back to Mexico.  wouldn’t it be better if they left their money here where they would love to be but can’t get their families over here because of immigration. to do that means to subject their families to the desert to get across. To go for days without food and water to hide out from border patrol. Border patrol are kind to them and when caught are processed and taken back across the border. Most are men, very few women can make the trip. They struggle with their lives to get here only to be caught, but the erge to feed their families is so strong they are willing to do the process over and over.  Right now the drug cartels are killing their own people to gain control of what little they have. The cartel is ruthless and all they want is money that “Americans” give them for the drugs they supply.  Yes, if the Americans didn’t buy the drugs they would have no need for all the fighting.  You want to see that wonderful border fence that is “up”.  It’s being climbed, tunneled under and just plain walked thru in it’s openings. No fence is going to work to keep them out. They only want to work and feed their families.  They are trying to crack down on the employers who sneak them across but there again, money talks. Some of them are blackmailed into giving over large amt’s of money to a handler only to lose their lives being locked in a trailer somewhere in the heat. It’s pittiful how they are treated just to get the freedoms we enjoy.

  • Hagen619dj

    America has always welcomed those from other countries. I have a daughter-in-law from the Phillipines who has worked the last 7 years, paid taxes but still has only a Visa. She wants to be a citizen but gets rattled around by paperwork that they say isn’t correct. It’s a lie to get more money from her. Our country isn’t honest either. They blackmail those who do pay taxes just to get more from them. Everytime they reapply for citizenship the paperwork isn’t right and they have to pay $300 to $400 each time they apply. Tell me that American government is honest???

  • Hagen619dj

    Yes, he (Perry) does. He has learned to appreciate Mexicans also and understands their predicument. the children in Mexico are taught to beg from Americans when they visit across the border. How would you like your children to live like that.  It isn’t right that those who are 65 and over are collecting SS., because we know they didn’t earn that, but you can thank your democrats for that decision.  You see, Obama WANTS their votes, legal or not.  He sues one of his own states(Arizona) for trying to control them. He won’t put boots on the ground because he is pacifying them for votes. There are so many illegal ID’s being made that they don’t want to take the time to check that before voting. So, you see, anyone basically can vote whether illegal or not.  that is your wonderful president at this time.  Isn’t he just great….NOT!  And if your complaining about all the medical care they get….then look at the lazy Americans that collect it….thanks to the democrats AGAIN.   Now we have a different problem.  Even the white people are experiencing poverty and losing of their homes because they don’t have jobs. We have never been classified as minority because we took pride in working and helping others. Now everyone is in the same boat….thanks to Obama AGAIN.  Share the wealth, make everyone get the same wages….ya, right!  As long as the dems can take it from someone else to better themselves in the WH…that’s their objective.  You want to keep illegals out of America….than talk to your wonderful president who is allowing them to cross and be reprocessed each and every day. Thank God they are treated fairly as they process them and return them across the border.

  • Hagen619dj

    Perry does treat them as fairly as he can get by doing it.  He has a heart, unlike those of you with some of your comments.  by the way,  how many of you speak Spanish?  Our country doesn’t demand that we speak another language…..other countries speak English however. They communicate well in Texas. The Hispanic talk their language among’st themselves but for the most part, they speak English. All they want is to be American.

  • Hagen619dj

    Just remember that all foreigners who come into this country are not legal from their beginning either.  We don’t seem to have a disconnect with them.  They also get help from social services etc.

  • Hagen619dj

    Are you counting our president in that same catagory?  Forked tongue you say.  Obama has lied day after day and still people believe him.  Go with the wind you say?  Will reverse and go to the opposite direction?  Do you hear what your saying?

  • Hagen619dj

    Get the men and women home from foreign countries and you would see the National Guard protecting borders.  The wars are costing billions and billions.  We need to keep our noses out of other countries business and watch and care for our own.

  • Hagen619dj

    You take the limit on what YOU “think” you know about Texas or Perry.  You should research what your talking about.  If your so gun ho on border protection, go down there yourself and help out. Once you see how poor and starving those people are you will understand. They only want money and they would work hard to get it.  Unlike many spoiled Americans who don’t know what real work is.

  • Hagen619dj

    The difference between illegals in Arizona and Calif.  are that those Mexicans are mostely drug cartel gangs. The ones who will take anything they can get by the use of guns. They are scrupulous gangsters and have learned to go with the cartel or be killed.  The Mexicans in Texas (gulf area) are very poor, uneducated and hungry people.  That is the difference in why Brewer wants help from the government….but Obama won’t give it.  Instead, he’d rather give the gangs guns to help them out….then turn around and sue Arizona for turning them away (which they can’t do now…it’ so sad for those people in that state especially)

  • Hagen619dj

    then go to the Americans who leach off the welfare system, housing and food stamps.  With all the Americans on drugs in this country we could save millions on them if they had to be tested BEFORE they could apply for welfare.  I’d dare to bet that more welfare people are drug users than those who really need the help.

  • Hagen619dj

    then go to the Americans who leach off the welfare system, housing and food stamps.  With all the Americans on drugs in this country we could save millions on them if they had to be tested BEFORE they could apply for welfare.  I’d dare to bet that more welfare people are drug users than those who really need the help.

  • Hagen619dj

    Your the typical American who has no time for anyone that is in need of assistance. I’d dare to say that we have more drug users in this country that are wasting time sitting in schools than those who want the education.

  • Hagen619dj

    And Obama is a liar.  The borders are NOT secure.  He lies to cover up his secret intentions for votes. I wonder what he will do when he brings all the soldiers home to no jobs? Some have lost their homes.  We are in a terrible fix in this country and it starts with his decisions.  Maybe a stimulus bailout should be given to each and every American before giving more to the greed of large companies who lie about their needs. At least Americans without jobs and homes can prove it upfront.

  • Ajim26

    thank god for the idiots on the GOP ballot …if they arent complaining bout “gotcha” questions ..they are putting their foot in their pie hole……”Social Security is a ponzi scheme”….lol

  • Viralmechanic

    Then I doubt it’ll be any of what we’ve got lined up.

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