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Speculation And Sloppy Reporting On Both Sides Of ‘Weinergate’

by Tommy Christopher | 8:27 pm, May 30th, 2011

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The unfolding scandal involving what Rep. Anthony Weiner calls a hack of his social media accounts has proven to be a roiling petri dish of new media sickness, as the rush to judgment has overshadowed the fair presentation of the facts. The initial rush to convict Rep. Weiner of tweeting a naughty picture to a follower in Seattle has led to equally irresponsible suggestions that Andrew Breitbart and his staff engineered a “hoax,” and sloppy reporting of the facts, all around.

Much of this story involves circumstantial evidence, much of which can be interpreted in contradictory ways. But the facts that are available are that a picture of an underwear-clad penis was sent, via Anthony Weiner’s Twitter account, to a 21 year-old student named Gennette Nicole Cordova in a publicly-viewable message. The message contained a link to Congressman Weiner’s YFrog account.

Congressman Weiner has maintained that his social media accounts were hacked, and Ms. Cordova issued a statement which supports his assertion:

Since I had dealt with this person and his cohorts before I assumed that the tweet and the picture were their latest attempts at defaming the Congressman and harassing his supporters.

She doesn’t explicitly endorse a “hacking” theory (as she mentioned later on Twitter), but her statement indicates that she believed the message not to be genuine. She went on to say that “there have never been any inappropriate exchanges between Anthony Weiner and myself.”

Her statement echoed her real-time response to the retweeting of the photo.

That’s the sum total of the firsthand information available. We can see the tweets, and the picture, and we have statements from the only two known direct participants.

Beyond that, though, there are facts that can be interpreted as supporting Rep. Weiner’s account, or as casting doubt on it, or both. Pointing out those facts is perfectly fine, but speculation surrounding them has led to a shifting narrative, and to unreasonable narrative leaps.

For example, some have expressed doubt that Rep. Weiner could have had both his YFrog account, Twitter account, and Facebook account simultaneously hacked. But as Caleb Howe (a conservative from Redstate.com) points out on Twitter:

Haven’t seen it mentioned, but wouldn’t have to hack twitter/facebook to post from yfrog. Only have to hack yfrog. It’s authorized to tweet.

Some speculation has centered around Rep. Weiner’s actions after the alleged hack. People have pointed to the swift deletion of the photos in Rep. Weiner’s YFrog account as suggestive of his guilt, when that could easily have been the work of the alleged hacker, and is also a perfectly reasonable reaction for an innocent person to have.

The same is true of his tweets since the alleged hack. His reaction has been consistent with his quirky personality, and with a politician trying not to let a prejudicial sex smear become a big deal. On the other hand, his reaction is consistent with someone trying to downplay wrongdoing and avert attention. It’s not very useful as evidence, one way or the other.

Some have fairly wondered whether Rep. Weiner had reported the hack to the authorities, which he apparently is in the process of doing. Others have pointed to the slow pace of information from Weiner’s office as suggestive of guilt. Both are fair points, but not without also noting that this occurred near midnight at the beginning of Memorial Day weekend, a time when information-gathering is typically slower.

It’s also worth noting that there has been no confirmation that Weiner did not report the hack. It is possible he did, and was instructed not to divulge that. Based on his spokesman’s statement today, though, that doesn’t seem likely.

By far, the most damning piece of circumstantial evidence against the idea of a hack is the tweet that Weiner sent early Friday evening, referencing the time difference in Seattle, which Ms. Cordova then retweeted. From Big Government:

Here’s s a transcript of the Tweet in question:

Heading to 30 Rock to chat with Rachel at 9. #Thats545InSeattleIThink
about 17 hours ago via TweetDeck
Retweeted by 18 people

That is some coincidence, to be sure, and one that hasn’t been explained by Weiner or Ms. Cordova, and it was the piece of circumstantiality that gave me the most pause. The tweet itself isn’t that difficult to explain, if anyone could get to ask Weiner to his face about it. For example, Weiner is a famously ardent Yankees fan, and his beloved team was playing in Seattle on Friday. Cordova’s retweet would be the natural reaction of a fan to a mention of her hometown.

Combined with the tweet of the underwear pic several hours later, though, it is a damning coincidence, though still only circumstantial. However, if you accept the idea that Weiner was hacked, the timing can make more sense. For example, if someone monitored his Twitter feed fanatically, and kept close tabs on who he followed, and spoke feverishly of an impending sex photo scandal involving a northeastern Democrat, Gennette Nicole Cordova would be a natural selection to receive the hacked tweet.

As it happens, the man who was the one and only person to directly retweet the offending picture, Dan Wolfe (aka @patriotusa76) was part of a group that did just that, and Gennette Nicole Cordova was one of their targets. They descended upon several young women who received mutual follows from Rep. Weiner, harassing one of them (a 16 year-old) right off of Twitter. They also tweeted a nonstop stream of venom at Rep. Weiner, much of it involving sexual innuendo about the Congressman.

Additionally, when Wolfe retweeted the photo, but failed to get a screen capture of the tweet. In their original report, Big Government reasonably used a screencap from the Congressional Twitter archive, which doesn’t show how the tweet was sent (phone/web/etc). A real-time screen capture would have that information, and might have suggested Weiner’s innocence or guilt. Weiner’s tweets that night were sent via Tweetdeck. A real screenshot of the original tweet, had it said “sent via YFrog,” would stick out like a sore thumb.

None of this proves that Wolfe hacked Weiner, but it certainly illustrates the very real possibility that someone could have. If this group can show this level of obsession with Weiner, it is not a stretch to believe that someone could learn enough about him to crack his YFrog password. Anyone who follows Wolfe or his clique would have also seen their interactions with Ms. Cordova. Her retweet could have been a waited-for opportunity.

Of course, there is as much actual proof of this as there is that Weiner wasn’t hacked. However, when someone’s life and reputation are on the line, red flags like these shouldn’t be ignored. The presumption of innocence should be that much stronger.

When we first reported on Wolfe’s activity, he wasn’t available for comment, but he has since denied being the alleged hacker in question (an accusation, for the record, that we never made):

Have you been contacted by any law enforcement officers or agents whatsoever?

His answer:

No one. Nada. I keep saying bring it on. I have nothing to hide. Not my IP nothing to hide at all.

No one from law enforcement contacted the number one suspect in the hacking case of the decade? No one? No one at all?

Not a single LEO?

No, Wolfe told me repeatedly. And then he went further. Here are his tweets, my Columbo-like questions omitted, as well as answer-beginnings to those questions:

I keep saying I would love an investigation because I know the outcome. It won’t be me.
I hope he comes after me. Look up my IP. Nothing to hide here.

I’d voluntarily hand anything they want over. Check me and my IP. Anything. I did not post that tweet. Weiner did it.

It could be solved in minutes why is no one but me asking for authorities?

At this point I’m seriously wondering if I can call the authorities myself and ask for investigation.

Whatever it takes to get it started. Fine with me. I just want it investigated. Someone please?

For what it’s worth, Ms. Cordova herself is inclined to believe Wolfe, as she tweeted earlier:

@patriotusa76 I’m sorry for saying your twitter name to nydn. You are a very annoying human being but I dont think you’re behind this.

On the flip side, there have been suggestions, and out right accusations, that this “hoax” was engineered by Andrew Breitbart and/or his staff of editors. We debunked some of this earlier, but it bears repeating that there is no credible evidence of this. While we may disagree about the way in which this story should be presented and pursued, there is no basis for such an accusation. Overzealous? Yes. Fabricators? No. It is also worth noting that they have acted far more responsibly than other right-wing blogs, taking pains to protect the identities of participants, where appropriate, and clearly separating fact from allegation.

There have also been unsavory suggestions about my involvement in this story, including one that I wrote Miss Cordova’s statement for her. While completely false, I mention it because her statement was sharply written, and I would have hated not to get credit for a line like this:

The point I am trying to make is that, contrary to the impression that I apparently gave from my tweet, I am not his girlfriend. Nor am I the wife, girlfriend or mistress of Barack Obama, Ray Allen or Cristiano Ronaldo, despite the fact that I have made similar assertions about them via Twitter.

The tide of this story has begun to swing in Rep. Weiner’s favor, for the time being, but once the weekend is over, and the cable news machine revs up, it’s anyone’s ballgame.

Update: Rep. Weiner is actually a lifelong Mets fan. To his credit, though, he intervenes on behalf of all of his constituents, baseball-wise. The point stands, though, that there are many explanations for the Seattle reference, and his hometown team’s presence there is just one example.

Andrew Breitbart, Anthony Weiner, Ben Smith, Big Government, Caleb Howe, Dan Wolfe, Gennette Nicole Cordova, Politico, twitter, WeinerGate

http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

This is part of the genius of the right, politically. They’ve now made it so the media reports both sides as though they’re equal when both sides are not equal.
Liberal Tormentor

I fail to see how the story has swung to Weiner’s favor, TC. I know you want that to be the case, so I think it’s wishful thinking on your part. Interesting that Weiner is now calling this a prank and not a hack.
Calvin

Liberal Tormentor said:
Interesting that Weiner is now calling this a prank and not a hack.

A hack, which is a crime that means jailtime for the hacker.
TfT

Really Tommy? Are you that desperate to protect weiner? Perhaps you can talk to Dan and Offer her a job, especially given this :” her statement was sharply written, and I would have hated not to get credit for a line like this…:

So funny.

Left circles the wagons around other lefties day in and day out; never has such an effort to protect a republican by the media, never. Instead, the left lies, cheats and steals the truth….but in the case of Anthony….let us all follow-the-lead of the DKOS, and report there is really no there there.
Pablo

Congressman Weiner has maintained that his social media accounts were hacked, and Ms. Cordova issued a statement which supports his assertion:

No, it doesn’t. Cordova is referring to Dan Wolfe’s retweet. The retweet does nothing to support Weiner’s claim that his account was hacked.
mitchflorida

This is a lot more than an innocent “prank”. Whoever did this made Anthony Weiner look like a sex pervert or deviant. Isn’t it important that Weiner defend his honor and report this to the FBI and put the “hacker” behind bars?
Pablo

Calvin said:
A hack, which is a crime that means jailtime for the hacker.

Exactly. See David Kernell. He can be reached at the Federal Correctional Institution, Ashland KY.
http://www.storminsmorningjava.blogspot.com/ stormin1961

Isn’t it great how only the liberal democrats get the benefit of the doubt.
Big Eddie

In 2006 , the media took the case of an obscure gay Congressman , Mark Foley , and clubbed the Republicans repeatedly , even though Foley never actually did anything .

Few care about the extremely obnoxious Weiner . It’s really the lies and attempted coverups , the ignoring of the story of a sitting congress member who says he was hacked and smeared . NYT got the story yet ?

If the FBI is not brought in now , Weiner is cooked .
ninjapirate

“The tide of this story has begun to swing in Rep. Weiner’s favor, for the time being”

No it hasn’t and quite honestly I don’t think you should be reporting on this… it’s weird how you were instantly followed by her and her boyfriend… it was also odd how the New York Daily News and Mediate were chosen as the main outlets for her statement.

“The presumption of innocence should be that much stronger.”

If he takes this to the police I will start taking him seriously… but for now Occum’s Razor points to him sending out the tweet.
Pablo

Of course, there is as much actual proof of this as there is that Weiner wasn’t hacked. However, when someone’s life and reputation are on the line, red flags like these shouldn’t be ignored. The presumption of innocence should be that much stronger.

Whose innocence? Weiner’s or Wolfe’s? Which is being accused of a crime?

This is really easy. Call the FBI, find out where the tweet was sent from, and release the result of that investigation. The story is then over.

Instead, Weiner wants to just move on.

Dude tweeted his wiener. Srsly.
Pablo

Pablo said:
This is really easy. Call the FBI, find out where the tweet was sent from, and release the result of that investigation. The story is then over.

Oh, wait. If Weiner calls the FBI and tells them his twitter was hacked, but it really wasn’t hacked, then he would be a felon, and it would be kind if silly if he called them to tell them he tweeted his wiener. That’s probably why he hasn’t called them.
turk281

Tommy, I’m really disappointed. I may be a partisan hack but I do know that journalists should report facts(which you did) but you also speculate and invent scenarios that may prove Weiner innocent. That should be the job of Weiner and his well paid staff. You’re a journalist, not an activist. Even if you are liberal, it shouldn’t matter.

Why assume that he’s in the process of contacting the authorities? He never said that. Ever. In fact CNN reports that neither the Capitol Police nor the FBI are currently investigating a hacking.

And then there’s this:
“For example, Weiner is a famously ardent Yankees fan, and his beloved team was playing in Seattle on Friday. Cordova’s retweet would be the natural reaction of a fan to a mention of her hometown.”

Why would you even write that? That’s one of the most blazing examples of wild speculation and Weiner defense that belongs at DailyKos, not Mediaite.
W.I.S.C

Pablo said:
Oh, wait. If Weiner calls the FBI and tells them his twitter was hacked, but it really wasn’t hacked, then he would be a felon, and it would be kind if silly if he called them to tell them he tweeted his wiener. That’s probably why he hasn’t called them.

Weiner goes down the road tread by Massa and Edwards . . .
TheRealRoyalQueen

Tommy, you know as well as I do Weiner sent the picture. If he had been truly hacked as he first claimed, then the Capital Hill Police, the FBI, and Speaker Boehner’s office would have started an immediate investigation into the hacking. It is now almost 4 days later and no investigation. And Weiner, who has never been shy of his utter disdain for Conservatives has a chance to show America that he was “hacked” by right Wingers, has now become shy, his famous loud mouth is quiet, and the forensic investigation the we’re begging for from authorities (Andrew Breitbart is also asking for this) looks like it is not coming anytime soon even though it could clear up this whole matter and in reality is a national security issue as we have no idea what else of Rep Weiner’s has been hacked. Why is this Tommy? Why would Weiner give up a change to prove to the world that he is the victim of a right wing hack job? Because he did tweet that pic from his blackberry. And now with proof he Direct Messaged porn stars, young girls & women, things aren’t looking too good for Weiner so he’s hoping the liberal media will strawman & spin this indiscretion away for him before Tuesday. I make you a bet Tommy. Weiner is out before Friday. The truth is coming out Tommy. You know it yourself. And it will be disastrous for Weiner, the Democrats, and Obama’s 2012 re-election. Their loudest mouthpiece will be exposed for the hypocrite he is.
W.I.S.C

turk281 said:
Tommy, I’m really disappointed. I may be a partisan hack but I do know that journalists should report facts(which you did) but you also speculate and invent scenarios that may prove Weiner innocent. That should be the job of Weiner and his well paid staff. You’re a journalist, not an activist. Even if you are liberal, it shouldn’t matter.

Why assume that he’s in the process of contacting the authorities? He never said that. Ever. In fact CNN reports that neither the Capitol Police nor the FBI are currently investigating a hacking.

And then there’s this:
“For example, Weiner is a famously ardent Yankees fan, and his beloved team was playing in Seattle on Friday. Cordova’s retweet would be the natural reaction of a fan to a mention of her hometown.”

Why would you even write that? That’s one of the most blazing examples of wild speculation and Weiner defense that belongs at DailyKos, not Mediaite.

Tommy’s not a journalist; he’s a blogger and therefore not bound by any journalistic ethics codes. Mediaite is not a news site; its a blog. Their terms of service point out they are under no obligation to even be truthful about events. Weiner is a popular liberal and Tommy, also a liberal, is lobbying for Weiner in the mist of this “situation.” You can’t fault him for sticking up for his own.
NeoKong

Tommy….think about it.
Are you sure you really want to follow Weiner over this cliff on this one…..?
The guy is a sleazeball and HE IS BUSTED.
Stop protecting him.
TfT

So right you are big Eddie, the media went into overdrive to character assassinate Foley; there was no benefit of the doubt, there was no facts in evidence they he did anything to anyone, but the media didn’t care. They screeched, the lied, they cheated him, they cheated the public. But, that was the guidance, direction they were given by the DNC overlords. They do as they are told, politicallyassassinate conservatives/republicans, protect defend democrats.

It is what it is, and it is a shame. A once proud profession has turned into whoring for the DNC.
W.I.S.C

Hopefully, this little episode will teach politicians to stay away from twitter, and facebook to some extent.
Calvin

Pablo said:
Exactly. See David Kernell. He can be reached at the Federal Correctional Institution, Ashland KY.

Yep. Hacking Weiner’s account means stiff punishment for whoever did the hacking. That’s hard time, folks. There’s more puns involving this story than one could shake a stick at.
turk281

W.I.S.C said:
Tommy’s not a journalist; he’s a blogger and therefore not bound by any journalistic ethics codes. Mediaite is not a news site; its a blog. Their terms of service point out they are under no obligation to even be truthful about events. Weiner is a popular liberal and Tommy, also a liberal, is lobbying for Weiner in the mist of this “situation.” You can’t fault him for sticking up for his own.

I understand the purpose of Mediaite, WISC. Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully.

My point is that as a fan of some of Tommy’s stuff, I’ve seen him repeat/defend/report leftish talking points. I’ve never seen him INVENT excuses for a politician.
juan

Hey, Tommy,

Why isn’t this MEDIAITE’S Headline Story?

as for this:

The tide of this story has begun to swing in Rep. Weiner’s favor, for the time being,

LoL, that’s not gonna happen ’til he requests a full and complete investigation! And Weiner hasn’t, for the time being!
RazorsEdge

At tleast Ms. Cordova and @patriotusa76 continue to communicate.

This evening:

From Ms. Cordova:
@GennetteC
Gennette N Cordova
@patriotusa76 I’m sorry for saying your twitter name to nydn. You are a very annoying human being but I dont think you’re behind this.

Response from Wolfe:
@patriotusa76
Dan Wolfe
@GennetteC No problem. I’m sorry for what you’ve been through too. I appreciate you saying that. I do hope things get better for you.
OxyCon

The tide of this story has begun to swing in Rep. Weiner’s favor
mediadoubt

I’m not so sure this is “unfolding” as the term is usually meant. Right now we’re at the “It wasn’t me and I’m in contact with counsel” stage of the story and either it was Weiner or it wasn’t. Seems pretty binary to me — much to uncover, but not much to unfold.

The notion of Breitbart co-enabling a hoax is not much of a stretch, but we’re still in a fact-free zone there as well.

I’m a bit surprized over the level of interest — not in the crime (potential hacking of a senior federal official’s personal accounts) — but in the dick-pic itself. Americans seem unable to get much past “I see England, I see France, I see Andrew’s underpants . . .”

Which, sadly, explains a lot.
OxyCon

turk281 said:
You’re a journalist, not an activist.

Activist journalist.
Alice67

W.I.S.C said:
Hopefully, this little episode will teach politicians to stay away from twitter, and facebook to some extent.

Yeah, this is what the public wants …. for it’s representatives to be less open and more secretive. *sheesh*
juan

W.I.S.C said:
Tommy’s not a journalist; he’s a blogger and therefore not bound by any journalistic ethics codes. Mediaite is not a news site; its a blog. Their terms of service point out they are under no obligation to even be truthful about events. Weiner is a popular liberal and Tommy, also a liberal, is lobbying for Weiner in the mist of this “situation.” You can’t fault him for sticking up for his own.

Sure we can, if he is supposedly a reporter!
W.I.S.C

turk281 said:
I understand the purpose of Mediaite, WISC. Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully.

My point is that as a fan of some of Tommy’s stuff, I’ve seen him repeat/defend/report leftish talking points. I’ve never seen him INVENT excuses for a politician.

You should choose your words however you please. All I was attempting to do was provide the “meta” perspective and defend, for lack of a better word, Tommy and Mediaite.

Tommy is an enigma to me. He’s a member of the White House press corps, but he rarely writes about his dealings in those duties. Maybe he’s been gagged or something. If I had that access, I’d certainly mine it for material instead of propping up yet another politician (left or right) allegedly caught acting like a perv.
TheRealRoyalQueen

Anthony Weiner’s I was hacked by a right wing conspiracy” to “I an the victim of a little prank” excuses is about as believable as Larry Craig’s “I have a wide stance” excuse. And we know how much credit the liberal media gave that excuse. So why is the liberal media so quiet about this? Why are the protecting Weiner? Why didn’t they give Craig the same benefit of the doubt? Hypocrisy? Double standard?
pinandpuller

W.I.S.C said:
Weiner goes down the road tread by Massa and Edwards . . .

Scooter Libby?
Big Eddie

turk281 said:
I’ve never seen him INVENT excuses for a politician.

Noticed that too . Wrong . Wrong . Wrong.

Tommy . What the hell do you care ?

Weed out all the creeps . Who cares what party ?

Set the bar higher for those who make the laws . All of ‘em .

Be a journalist . Be curious and skeptical . You’re not on anybody’s team .
juan

W.I.S.C said:
You should choose your words however you please. All I was attempting to do was provide the “meta” perspective and defend, for lack of a better word, Tommy and Mediaite.

Tommy is an enigma to me. He’s a member of the White House press corps, but he rarely writes about his dealings in those duties. Maybe he’s been gagged or something. If I had that access, I’d certainly mine it for material instead of propping up yet another politician (left or right) allegedly caught acting like a perv.

Well said!
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

TC,
Hack or no hack… you come out of this looking like a hack…
I saw a few small time local bloggers get nailed for backing Massa similar to the way you have backed Weiner… minus the inappropriate contacts with the victims involved of course…
W.I.S.C

Alice67 said:
Yeah, this is what the public wants …. for it’s representatives to be less open and more secretive. *sheesh*

You spin my comment. We don’t need social media to “know” our representatives. And its not “less open” or “more secretive” not to have a twitter or facebook account.
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

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pinandpuller

skoorbekim said:
TC,
Hack or no hack… you come out of this looking like a hack…
I saw a few small time local bloggers get nailed for backing Massa similar to the way you have backed Weiner… minus the inappropriate contacts with the victims involved of course…

True Hollywood Story: The Man Behind the Weiner.
W.I.S.C

juan said:
Sure we can, if he is supposedly a reporter!

Blogger, not reporter: although it would be nice to read some “reports” from the White House press room.
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

W.I.S.C said:
Blogger, not reporter:

confidant/representative of Ms Cordova…
juan

skoorbekim said:
W.I.S.C said:
Blogger, not reporter:
confidant/representative of Ms Cordova…

. . . and Congressman Anthony Weiner!
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

juan said:
. . . and Congressman Anthony Weiner!

I am more amazed at the media aspect… 2008 was the media-gone-wild… in my voter precinct 10,000 votes were cast… only 900 of us voted against the media created cult-of-personality… the established media has lost it’s Fourth Estate credibility…
and they’re are going to dig their grave deeper by sticking up for AW… so be it…
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

hey TC,
here is your poet-hero… maybe he can cheer you up…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY&feature=player_embedded
if not… maybe this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6EwNlWH7g4
TheRealRoyalQueen

How much do you want to bet Tommy’s “beloved baseball fan” excuse he’s loving offered to Team Weiner will be the narrative excuse/explanation for Weiners “Seattle Time” tweet. I dawn Already hear Mika & Andrea saying it…
TheRealRoyalQueen

TheRealRoyalQueen said:
How much do you want to bet Tommy’s “beloved baseball fan” excuse he’s loving offered to Team Weiner will be the narrative excuse/explanation for Weiners “Seattle Time” tweet. I dawn Already hear Mika & Andrea saying it…

Sorry it should say “I can already hear…”. Hard to type on a droid x
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juan

Liberal bloggers should be the ones leading the campaign for an official investigation. Many of them have claimed that Andrew Breitbart, and other conservative activists, are responsible for hacking into Weiner’s official congressional Twitter account. If that’s the case, then let’s make sure these right-wing hackers are forced to face the legal consequences of their actions.

This is a fairly customary process. After President Obama’s official Twitter account was hacked, the FBI managed to track the hacker all the way to France, where he was tried and convicted. If Weiner’s account was compromised, there’s a good chance that law enforcement will find the person who did it.

But if it turns out that Weiner is unwilling to allow an official, transparent investigation, then he can’t expect journalists to stop digging for the truth on their own. After all, the public has legitimate questions, and the media is only doing its job.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/05/30/weiner-investigation-would-benefit-all-parties-involved/
Obeezy

Tommy, you say he’s a die hard Yankee fan, yet the Daily news has a pic of him with a Mets hat. Not many Die hard Yankee fans, which i am, would be caught dead in a mets hat… But nice try.
turk281

Obeezy said:
Tommy, you say he’s a die hard Yankee fan, yet the Daily news has a pic of him with a Mets hat. Not many Die hard Yankee fans, which i am, would be caught dead in a mets hat… But nice try.

Haha. Good catch. Read this:

But some Mets fans weren’t buying into the Empire State rendition of “Kumbaya,” politics be damned: Rep. Anthony Weiner (D) was notably absent from the list of sponsors of the resolution formally congratulating the Bronx Bombers. One might think Weiner, who is thought to have aspirations of being the Big Apple’s mayor, would want to curry favor with the big chunk of its residents who root for the Pinstripes.

It seems, though, that Weiner’s loyalty to the Mets runs even deeper than his political ambitions…

http://gawker.com/5400361/baseball-contest-divides-new-york-congressional-delegation/
lorenzo

If, as Weiner claims, there is someone hacking Congress member’s social media accounts, he has a responsibility to report it for investigation. It’s that simple. He took an oath to defend the laws of this country.
MadCharles

juan said:
W.I.S.C said:
Tommy’s not a journalist; he’s a blogger and therefore not bound by any journalistic ethics codes

Sorry bro, Journalist lost ethics long ago. They have to start the spin and blame Britebart. He scares the living hell out of the left.
Face-Ripper Monkey

I think Eugene Felnic did it.
glenn113

I hope he sues Breitbart for every dime he has.
Rgentum

While we’re on the topic of circumstantial evidence and what a guilty or innocent person would do: as Mediaite notes, Wolfe may have been singularly obsessed with Weiner, but both the article and Cordova have referenced Wolfe’s “cohorts.” A very plausible explanation for Wolfe’s confidence is that he did not hack the account or send the photo, but one of his cohorts did, and Wolfe immediately and dutifully retweeted it.

Of course, this is also speculation, and I hope Weiner does ask law enforcement to investigate and that they look beyond Mr. Wolfe (any reasonably competent investigator would).
Senor Grande

Very poor, biased reporting of the story. You make the story as much about the messenger as opposed to rationally deconstructing the facts and asking the most pertinent questions. This doesn’t pass the smell test and yet to create a “both sides” argument is disingenuous.

The questions Weiner needs to answer are:

What does he mean by “he was hacked”? What did the “hacker” apparently do?

Did he acknowledge the link was sent from his account? (Invalidating claims that *anyone* doctored the screenshot.)

Did he post that photo to yfrog?

Did he send that link? (Or did someone with his direct or indirect knowledge do so.)

Did he have prior contact with the woman who was sent the link?

Why is he calling this a prank and not a serious invasion of privacy and something that needs to be investigated? If they’re able to get into these accounts, what’s to prevent them from getting into other accounts.

Has he contacted Facebook, Twitter, or Yfrog about the hack? Has he contacted authorities?

Has he changed every password on every account? (banks, investment accounts, amazon, email, etc.)

Absent any solid answers to these questions, the onus lies with Weiner to prove that he did not in fact tweet that photo to a college student. It’s not a crime but the coverup and the accusations and libel to those covering the story are beginning to come to that.

And Mediate continue to carry water for him is appalling.
Nacho

They should ask Glenn Beck. He can identify Wieners cock, he got fvcked the hardest by the congressman.
Liberal Tormentor

glenn113 says:
I hope he sues Breitbart for every dime he has.

Um, for what exactly?
dougx

His account was probably “hacked” by a family member and/or friend. You have to keep an eye on your teen age sons and their buddies. They will embarrass you in a minute thinking it’s a joke.

I really don’t understand why this has any news value. We also just had a Republican congressman who resigned and all he did was send a photo of himself with his shirt off. I don’t get it.
Rgentum

Have to give Caleb Howe credit where it’s due – while right-wing bloggers have been delightfully speculating on why Weiner would delete his yfrog account if Twitter, FB AND yfrog (or some other account) had been hacked, Howe nails it – it was only necessary to hack his yfrog account, and if the message came from there, deleting it is the most straight-forward remedy, as he doesn’t use it like he does FB or Twitter. Moreover, it would explain why the only thing sent was a single link to a single Twitter user, without further comment – because that’s all you can send from yfrog (another “question” right-wing bloggers have been asking).
TheRealRoyalQueen

Rgentum said:
Have to give Caleb Howe credit where it’s due – while right-wing bloggers have been delightfully speculating on why Weiner would delete his yfrog account if Twitter, FB AND yfrog (or some other account) had been hacked, Howe nails it – it was only necessary to hack his yfrog account, and if the message came from there, deleting it is the most straight-forward remedy, as he doesn’t use it like he does FB or Twitter. Moreover, it would explain why the only thing sent was a single link to a single Twitter user, without further comment – because that’s all you can send from yfrog (another “question” right-wing bloggers have been asking).

Then how do you explain how the picture came from a pic taken with & directly tweeted from a blackberry the same model as Weiners? See, Weiner had been tweeting from tweetdeck all evening, yet the crotch shot was tweeted via blackberry twitter. It takes about 4 minutes for tweetdeck to refresh itself & display new resets. About enough time to see that tweet you thought you had DM’ed was actually tweeted for all to see. The facts keep pointing back to just one person, Weiner. But a simple call to the Capital Hill Police of FBI could have solved this yesterday. Why hasn’t Weiner done that? This is a national security issue & i’m sure Weiner would want a full & thorough investigation. As thoroughly as he investigated Goldline & Glenn Neck. Or does Weiner have something to hide. Scandalous!
Barack Must Go

Speculation And Sloppy Reporting On Both Sides Of ‘Weinergate’

Weiner’s in this up to his eyeballs. If he, an obviously not too happily married man, United States Congressman aside were not persuing young, including some under age, women into the wee hours on his computer, NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING.

The reason the biggest phoney baloney, dishonest, douchebag in the Congress is keeping quite ( for him this is radio silence ) is because he is busted.

The late day lawyer announcement isn’t because he was hacked ( pranked according to the weiner ), it’s because he could not convince his wife not to move out next week and sue him for divorce.

This Weinergate scandal isn’t over by a long shot. In fact the real story of just what a POS this loser is hasn’t even begun yet.
TheRealRoyalQueen

Make that “Glenn Beck ” Damn auto speller lol
Face-Ripper Monkey

My tip of the hat to Tommy Christopher:

Weiner’s dick is on the net.
(and Whitey’s on the moon)
Barack Must Go

glenn113 said:
I hope he sues Breitbart for every dime he has.

Just his dimes…nothing elses?
500K4Sarah2Speak

Senor Grande… one more point. Weiner has always been consistent, explicit and clear that the tweet did go from his account… but he has also been consistent, explicit and clear that he did not post or send it.

This isnt news at this point.

Again, pay attention.
Rgentum

TheRealRoyalQueen said:
Then how do you explain how the picture came from a pic taken with & directly tweeted from a blackberry the same model as Weiners? See, Weiner had been tweeting from tweetdeck all evening, yet the crotch shot was tweeted via blackberry twitter. It takes about 4 minutes for tweetdeck to refresh itself & display new resets. About enough time to see that tweet you thought you had DM’ed was actually tweeted for all to see. The facts keep pointing back to just one person, Weiner. But a simple call to the Capital Hill Police of FBI could have solved this yesterday. Why hasn’t Weiner done that? This is a national security issue & i’m sure Weiner would want a full & thorough investigation. As thoroughly as he investigated Goldline & Glenn Neck. Or does Weiner have something to hide. Scandalous!

I have seen a lot of right-winger commenters on this site say “it’s been determined” that the photo was taken with a blackberry and that Weiner has a blackberry, it was his model blackberry, etc, etc. And yet I have not seen anyone actually report this – let alone explain how they know, as Mediaite’s Philip Bump pointed out, there’s hardly any data in the photo that indicates where or when it was taken. Yet you say the image “was tweeted via blackberry twitter.” Where are you getting that information? Are Bump and the author of this column, who notes the retweet does not state how the original image was sent, wrong? Reference the following statement:

Additionally, when Wolfe retweeted the photo, but failed to get a screen capture of the tweet. In their original report, Big Government reasonably used a screencap from the Congressional Twitter archive, which doesn’t show how the tweet was sent (phone/web/etc). A real-time screen capture would have that information, and might have suggested Weiner’s innocence or guilt. Weiner’s tweets that night were sent via Tweetdeck. A real screenshot of the original tweet, had it said “sent via YFrog,” would stick out like a sore thumb.

How do you know what kind of device was used? And for that matter, how do you know what model blackberry Anthony Weiner uses? And even if you have some authoritative source making these conclusions, isn’t Blackberry still the most commonly used PDA? Why do you think this is a “national security issue”? What does Anthony Weiner’s twitter account have to do with national security? It is a federal crime to access a private computer used in interstate communication, but this goes for anyone (for the record I do hope Weiner asks the authorities to investigate, will be disappointed if he does not). Nor is, to my knowledge, impersonating a member of Congress in and of itself a crime (there are penalties for unauthorized possession of federal credentials, though).
Rokker

Breitbart is a bottom feeder who specializes in gutter smear politics so it it is only natural that he is always a suspect when stuff like this occurs.
JasonMays

Rokker said:
Breitbart is a bottom feeder who specializes in gutter smear politics so it it is only natural that he is always a suspect when stuff like this occurs.

So you’re swallowing what the Weiner’s spewing huh?

Why am I not surprised?
TheRealRoyalQueen

500K4Sarah2Speak said:
RealRaunchyQueen, pull the crack pipe out from your frail, chapped lips and look at the calender.

Instead of your oh so boring predictable insults, why don’t you discuss the facts at hand? You can insult me but all it shows to us is that the facts are so damming that all you can do is insult us hoping to draw us away from the facts that every minute prove more & more Weiners guilt. And that’s cool. It’s what mindless useful idiots like your are programmed to do. But it will not detract us from demanding a full federal investigation into this alleged hack. And for all your insults, even you know what the full outcome will be. Weiner will have to admit he sent the pics. Weiner will have to admit he lied about being hacked. Weiner will have to resign. Weiner will be “hired” where all disgraced liberal Progressive trash goes to be “reborn” after devastating career crashes ..the Soros funded John Podesta’s Center for American Progress.
If you want to talk facts with me, I will happily oblige. If you just want to hurl your lame boring insults we all will just laugh at you and discuss Weiners fall from grace like intelligent people and you can watch & learn from afar.
TheRealRoyalQueen

Rgentum said:
I have seen a lot of right-winger commenters on this site say “it’s been determined” that the photo was taken with a blackberry and that Weiner has a blackberry, it was his model blackberry, etc, etc. And yet I have not seen anyone actually report this – let alone explain how they know, as Mediaite’s Philip Bump pointed out, there’s hardly any data in the photo that indicates where or when it was taken. Yet you say the image “was tweeted via blackberry twitter.” Where are you getting that information? Are Bump and the author of this column, who notes the retweet does not state how the original image was sent, wrong? Reference the following statement:

How do you know what kind of device was used? And for that matter, how do you know what model blackberry Anthony Weiner uses? And even if you have some authoritative source making these conclusions, isn’t Blackberry still the most commonly used PDA? Why do you think this is a “national security issue”? What does Anthony Weiner’s twitter account have to do with national security? It is a federal crime to access a private computer used in interstate communication, but this goes for anyone (for the record I do hope Weiner asks the authorities to investigate, will be disappointed if he does not). Nor is, to my knowledge, impersonating a member of Congress in and of itself a crime (there are penalties for unauthorized possession of federal credentials, though).

I’m on my phone so it’s hard to link to another story so I will link it tomorrow from my computer. But the story broke yesterday evening showing that the pic was taken from a blackberry the same model as Weiner uses & it was uploaded to his yfrog account from the blackberry. So if liberals are correct, this hacker not only was able to hack Weiners Facebook account & send a tweet through the facebook account (what a hacker! He. An send resets through Facebook) he can also control Weiners phone and upload pictures from it to his yfrog account! That is the most amazing hacker in the world! Now if that jacket can do that what’s to stop him com hacking into Weiner congressional email? Weiner sits on security committees, so if he is vulnerable we must do everything to protect vital information he can access. That means a full FBI investigation. Also it is a federal crime to impersonate a sitting Congresses man.
TheRealRoyalQueen

Rgentum said:
I have seen a lot of right-winger commenters on this site say “it’s been determined” that the photo was taken with a blackberry and that Weiner has a blackberry, it was his model blackberry, etc, etc. And yet I have not seen anyone actually report this – let alone explain how they know, as Mediaite’s Philip Bump pointed out, there’s hardly any data in the photo that indicates where or when it was taken. Yet you say the image “was tweeted via blackberry twitter.” Where are you getting that information? Are Bump and the author of this column, who notes the retweet does not state how the original image was sent, wrong? Reference the following statement:

How do you know what kind of device was used? And for that matter, how do you know what model blackberry Anthony Weiner uses? And even if you have some authoritative source making these conclusions, isn’t Blackberry still the most commonly used PDA? Why do you think this is a “national security issue”? What does Anthony Weiner’s twitter account have to do with national security? It is a federal crime to access a private computer used in interstate communication, but this goes for anyone (for the record I do hope Weiner asks the authorities to investigate, will be disappointed if he does not). Nor is, to my knowledge, impersonating a member of Congress in and of itself a crime (there are penalties for unauthorized possession of federal credentials, though).

I’m on my phone so it’s hard to link to another story so I will link it tomorrow from my computer. But the story broke yesterday evening showing that the pic was taken from a blackberry the same model as Weiner uses & it was uploaded to his yfrog account from the blackberry. So if liberals are correct, this hacker not only was able to hack Weiners Facebook account & send a tweet through the facebook account (what a hacker! He. An send resets through Facebook) he can also control Weiners phone and upload pictures from it to his yfrog account! That is the most amazing hacker in the world! Now if that hacker can do that what’s to stop him com hacking into Weiner congressional email? Weiner sits on security committees, so if he is vulnerable we must do everything to protect vital information he can access. That means a full FBI investigation. Also it is a federal crime to impersonate a sitting Congresses man.
Rgentum

TheRealRoyalQueen said:
I’m on my phone so it’s hard to link to another story so I will link it tomorrow from my computer. But the story broke yesterday evening showing that the pic was taken from a blackberry the same model as Weiner uses & it was uploaded to his yfrog account from the blackberry. So if liberals are correct, this hacker not only was able to hack Weiners Facebook account & send a tweet through the facebook account (what a hacker! He. An send resets through Facebook) he can also control Weiners phone and upload pictures from it to his yfrog account! That is the most amazing hacker in the world! Now if that hacker can do that what’s to stop him com hacking into Weiner congressional email? Weiner sits on security committees, so if he is vulnerable we must do everything to protect vital information he can access. That means a full FBI investigation. Also it is a federal crime to impersonate a sitting Congresses man.

Looking forward to seeing this article; I see that at least as of yesterday afternoon, even Pajamas Media was acknowledging that the photo did not appear to come from Weiner’s blackberry.
Dem4Ever

Scratch one Democrat
Just my Opinion

The cover-up is what usually gets these assholes!
Even the MSM can’t protect him much longer.

Weiner will be out in a month.
daicon

“But the facts that are available are that a picture of an underwear-clad penis was sent”–

How is that a fact? How do you know that isn’t Chaz Bono with a sock stuffed in there?
Big Eddie

500K4Sarah2Speak said:
Again, pay attent

Good Weinergate Tuesday morning , Anthony .
JasonMays

Just my Opinion said:
The cover-up is what usually gets these assholes!Even the MSM can’t protect him much longer. Weiner will be out in a month.

I really doubt it. When it comes to democrats and this kind of thing, what should happen and what does happen are two totally different things.

Weiner could “mushroom stamp” a 5 year old girls face on live TV, and democrats along with their media would defend it and laugh it off.
Steve_27

Even an idiot like Wiener would know better then to send naked pics these days so I believe him. Now can we please get onto a real story?
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Having spent almost the entire weekend tweeting about Weiner’s weiner, and following TC and many, many other bloggers, and theories, this is a really good summation by TC.

The only thing I really disagree with is: “The tide of this story has begun to swing in Rep. Weiner’s favor…” and “Congressman Weiner has maintained that his social media accounts were hacked, and Ms. Cordova issued a statement which supports his assertion”. She tweeted later that she doesn’t support or doubt a hacking theory. But, she didn’t think the photo was actually from him.

Obviously, he could have been hacked. But, personally, I don’t buy his actions (proceeding and) following the dic-pic as those of an innocent congressman who was hacked, and had a lewd pic sent to a young college woman.

The Seattle tweet is curious. The 3.5 hours of twitter silence, followed by a lewd tweet, and then five tweets about hockey, THEN a very jokey tweet (over an hour later) that he was hacked… Not buying the reaction. Not buying the denial.

Again, it could be a hack. But his reaction is so not normal – and I just saw his denial CNN video. Not buying it.

He may not have meant to send the pricture to GN, he may have been DM’ing with someone else, and she got it instead. I don’t think it was Patriot’s group, they were always warning the young girls that Weiner was a perv for following and chatting to young girls. (I don’t know them, but it seems weird that they would then send only one girl a lewd pic…) Way too much conspiracy type thought processes if they just wanted to hack and embarrass Weiner.

We do know he followed a short list of attractive young girls. We do know he chatted privately with some of them. And we do know a lewd pic was sent from his account to GN. We do know he tweeted a #seattle message 3 hours before. We do know the only way to DM with someone is if you both follow each other. We do know (most of us) that his reaction is odd, and not the norm for someone who was hacked.

I tend to believe he sent it because we have seen this kind of creepy political sex scandal crap enough to know that this kind of stuff happen. Hello Christoper Lee! Arnie, Edwards, Clinton, etc. etc. etc. Both sides of the aisles. Our focus should be on the truth, not what party did it. Some on the Left attacked and smeared Big Government JUST for reporting the incident. It was report worthy! They didn’t CLAIM Weiner did it, as Frances said. They reported Weiner claimed it was a hack. They just reported that the pic was sent – which it was.

One thing for sure – a married Congressman shouldn’t be following love sick teenagers, who profess their crushes, and engage in private chats with them. Hello Clinton and Monica…

I’m guessing (but might be wrong) that TC hopes this is not true, just as a lot of us would hope it weren’t true if this were a story about Todd Palin, or something…. But personally, like I said, we have seen this kind of creepy stuff enough to know that it does happen, Arnie being the latest.

When the Popo find the hacker, then I will believe it was a hack. Until then, I believe he is a dirty, dirty little man. hahaha

Sorry for the book….
Tommy Christopher

turk281 said:
I understand the purpose of Mediaite, WISC. Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully.

My point is that as a fan of some of Tommy’s stuff, I’ve seen him repeat/defend/report leftish talking points. I’ve never seen him INVENT excuses for a politician

The entire premise of this piece is to critique the speculation that has already been done, and any scenarios I offer here are to illustrate that point. In other words, those who speculate that Weiner’s Seattle tweet indicates guilt should also fairly acknowledge that it could easily have been innocent, “For example, Weiner is a famously ardent Yankees fan, and his beloved team was playing in Seattle on Friday. Cordova’s retweet would be the natural reaction of a fan to a mention of her hometown.”
NonElite

It looks like Breitbart was a little to eager to believe a damning story about Weiner. I can’t buy that he initiated this hoax. He took the bait and ran with it.
Now, was Weiner set up or was Breitbart set up or both? I have an Idea that we’ll never really know and it’s probably best just to quit speculating.
Personally, I’d rather investigate some of Weiner’s assertions and misrepresentation of his opposition. That is considerably more important than this ridiculous story.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Ok, I’m not done.

The only things that *support* the hacking theory are Weiner’s denial, and GN statement.

Weiner denied it – duh, of course he did. So did Clinton, and Edwards.
GN denied that she “engaged inappropriately with him.” but did she ever engage appropriately with him, via DMing? She denied ever meeting him – I don’t believe anyone accused her of actually meeting him. People flirt via internet all the time. She denied being his girl friend of having an affair. Again, I don’t think anyone ever made those accusations. The *he’s my boyfriend* comment was an indication of a crush, not that he was actually her BF. Also, like I said, the pic might not have been meant for her, but someone else he was DM’ing with.

She seems likable, and her denial seems kind of believable. Yet, Lewinsky was believable, and likable. She even signed a sworn affidavit denying any inappropriateness with Clinton. So… a statement and denials don’t mean a whole heck of a lot, now a days, do they?

So, what I guess I’m saying is – a denial doesn’t support a hacking claim at all. It’s just a denial.

And the photo info stuff is easily explained by way of a work phone vs. personal phone….
Barack Must Go

possibly said:
All of the speculation and sloppy reporting I’ve found is on Mediate and Big Government.

Mediate, what you have been doing for the past few days is far from reporting. You have played an active role in promoting this story over and over again and finally you’re backtracking after you realize you don’t have anything.

More than learning anything new about Mr. Weiner, I’ve learned this about you:

From now on, I use the same skepticism about your stories as I do O’keefe and Britebart.

You should use that same skepticism on all stories, no matter the source whiner.

Nothing wron with having a bit of long weekend fun, at that weiner, Weiner’s expense.

If he wasn’t playing with little girls in the first place, none of this could have occurred.

So see, things do happen for a reason. We just don’t know the final outcome of this incident yet, but it’s not going to end well for the Congressman no matter how much the MSM ignores it.
Pablo

sarainitaly said:
The only thing I really disagree with is: “The tide of this story has begun to swing in Rep. Weiner’s favor…” and “Congressman Weiner has maintained that his social media accounts were hacked, and Ms. Cordova issued a statement which supports his assertion”. She tweeted later that she doesn’t support or doubt a hacking theory. But, she didn’t think the photo was actually from him.

She’s referring to the retweet, as she says she didn’t see the original tweet. (Which, is that even possible?)
Pablo

sarainitaly said:
When the Popo find the hacker, then I will believe it was a hack. Until then, I believe he is a dirty, dirty little man. hahaha

Yes, and that would happen about half an hour after Weiner asks them to start looking. Let’s wait.
Tommy Christopher

sarainitaly said:
The only thing I really disagree with is: “The tide of this story has begun to swing in Rep. Weiner’s favor…” and “Congressman Weiner has maintained that his social media accounts were hacked, and Ms. Cordova issued a statement which supports his assertion”. She tweeted later that she doesn’t support or doubt a hacking theory. But, she didn’t think the photo was actually from him.

Thanks. By “begun to swing in his favor,” I mean relative to where it started out. He’s not in the clear, but he’s better off than he was Saturday.

As for GNC’s statement, you’re right, she didn’t explicitly endorse any particular theory, but she did make clear that she did not believe the photo or the tweet to be authentic. That’s why I said “support,” rather than “corroborate.” I linked to the tweet you reference, as well.
Pablo

mediadoubt said:
Grow up, people. The world is much more complicated (and dangerous) than the 6th-grade playground you appear to wander around in.

This one is simple. Someone tweeted that pic from Weiner’s account. The only question is who did it. All signs point to Weiner, but the absolute truth of the matter is easily discovered.
Pablo

Tommy Christopher said:
As for GNC’s statement, you’re right, she didn’t explicitly endorse any particular theory, but she did make clear that she did not believe the photo or the tweet to be authentic.

Right, but she says she didn’t ever see the original tweet. She’s referring to Dan Wolfe’s RT, not the tweet from Weiner. Further, her belief is not evidentiary, one way or the other.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

BFD said:
Thanks for staying on top of this while most of us were out enjoying our holiday weekend.

Just so you know, the weather was great, the waves were huge and the bbq was delicious.

it was quite fun, actually. Had some great twit chats with TC, and many others.
And, it wasn’t a holiday weekend here.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Tommy Christopher said:
By “begun to swing in his favor,” I mean relative to where it started out. He’s not in the clear, but he’s better off than he was Saturday.

Maybe, maybe not… Did you see his CNN denial? Kind of wimpy for Weiner, no?

Also, what do you think about contacting a lawyer, instead of just calling the police? Is that normal? Doesn’t seem normal to me. I would think calling the police would be normal, not obtaining council.

Like Queenie said, victims call the cops, perps call a lawyer.

Pablo said:
This one is simple. Someone tweeted that pic from Weiner’s account. The only question is who did it. All signs point to Weiner, but the absolute truth of the matter is easily discovered.

Exactly. Let’s get the truth! All together now, “Weiner! Weiner! Weiner!” hahahah
mediadoubt

Pablo said:
This one is simple. Someone tweeted that pic from Weiner’s account. The only question is who did it. All signs point to Weiner, but the absolute truth of the matter is easily discovered.

I agree with you 85%! Not “all” signs point to Weiner. (Opinion coming) We’ll know pretty much for sure in a couple of days.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

sarainitaly said:
is kind of in the crapper later.

crapper lately.
edit button pleeeeeease.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Too many coincidences in Weiner’s tale

Yet, as of yesterday, he was following fewer than 200 others — and, with all those famous folks to choose from, one of the few he followed was Cordova, a 21-year-old college student who lives nearly 3,000 miles away in Bellingham,Wash.

Run that though your head for a second and at the same time remember two important facts about Twitter:

1. If two people follow each other on Twitter, they can send private messages unseen by others.

2. The difference between a direct message, seen by only the recipient, and a public tweet, seen by the world, is a single character.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/too_many_coincidences_in_weiner_Rl8bBPw5CL5TqdO9aUe4sI#ixzz1NvspeYUb
mediadoubt

sarainitaly said:

Now, that’s what I call “zero value add”.

Well, you would, wouldn’t you? That’s my point entirely. Thanks for being an example for the whole class.
DaTruth

Just curious, Tommy, that if your own Twitter page tweets were made more widely known –say, inside the WH– would you still have WH press credentials? Your back and forth with that one individual about this issue used some rather unseemly language that I can’t imagine the WH would countenance.

Calling someone a “Dick”, for example, on a public forum doesn’t strike me as the type of statement one would expect from a WH correspondent. I’m all for free speech, but someone with the privileges you have in your position would be wise to exhibit some kind of restraint in your social media communications.
Barack Must Go

mediadoubt said:
Well, you would, wouldn’t you? That’s my point entirely. Thanks for being an example for the whole class.

Continuosly striving to take the ” lib ” brand to a whole new low, this one is.
Cecelia

“However, when someone’s life and reputation are on the line, red flags like these shouldn’t be ignored. The presumption of innocence should be that much stronger.”

Nice to know that the presumption of innocence is “that much stronger” for Anthony Weiner.

If not for Dan Wolfe or Newt Gingrich…
Liberal Tormentor

Hey Tommy, I invite you to take Weinergate:The “Would Your Spouse Buy It?” Test

Let’s apply this to Anthony Weiner:

“Hey, honey – I know that my Twitter account sent a photo of what may look like my hairless legs and possibly my junk to one of the woman who I follow on Twitter. And right, I follow less than 100 people. And yes, this woman who referred to me online as ‘her boyfriend’ and her friend said she has ‘a crush’ on me – and okay, she lives in Seattle and retweeted me saying what time in Seattle I’d be on the Rachael Maddow show. And yes, within 3 hours of me supposedly sending her the photo of my alleged junk I erased all my pictures from my YFrog account and sure, she deleted her Twitter and Facebook accounts.

But I have a simple explanation—I was hacked.

And no, I haven’t given any indication of having filed a police report of any kind about being hacked.

But I was hacked. Here’s some flowers. And a teddy bear.”

http://bigjournalism.com/lstranahan/2011/05/30/weinergatethe-would-your-spouse-buy-it-test/
Judge Mental

… when someone’s life and reputation are on the line ….

Huh? Someone’s life is on the line? Whose?
rubberneck

Tommy you are clueless.
Cecelia

“None of this proves that Wolfe hacked Weiner, but it certainly illustrates the very real possibility that someone could have. If this group can show this level of obsession with Weiner, it is not a stretch to believe that someone could learn enough about him to crack his YFrog password. Anyone who follows Wolfe or his clique would have also seen their interactions with Ms. Cordova. Her retweet could have been a waited-for opportunity.”

Well, Tommy, it’s nice of you to admit that your insinuations about Wolfe, don’t prove anything against Wolfe (I’m sure he’s delighted to here that…), but that they illustrate how someone COULD hack Weiner’s YFrog, account, however, who has denied such a possibility in the first place?

In an age where the State Dept is hacked, and Sarah Palin’s yahoo account was hacked by a critic, just who in particular has claimed that such a thing could never happen to a congressman?

Are you sure that this illustration wasn’t merely an attempt on your part to suggest that Wolfe may be more accountable for explaining what happened with Weiner’s twitter account, than is the congressman?
Cecelia

“There have also been unsavory suggestions about my involvement in this story, including one that I wrote Miss Cordova’s statement for her. While completely false, I mention it because her statement was sharply written, and I would have hated not to get credit for a line like this:

The point I am trying to make is that, contrary to the impression that I apparently gave from my tweet, I am not his girlfriend. Nor am I the wife, girlfriend or mistress of Barack Obama, Ray Allen or Cristiano Ronaldo, despite the fact that I have made similar assertions about them via Twitter.:

The seriousness of Cordova’s feelings about Rep. Weiner don’t matter an iota as to the likelihood of his sending her such a picture. Any woman reading this knows, that all it takes for some man to pay you some “special” attention, is the fact that you are breathing. Add to that the notion that you are infatuated with his utter dreamboatness and you can up the inappropriate gesture possibility exponentially.

Cordova may have been joking about Weiner being her “boyfriend”, but Weiner (like most men) would have interpreted even the joke as being indicative of sexual interest.
Liberal Tormentor

Cordova may have been joking about Weiner being her “boyfriend”, but Weiner (like most men) would have interpreted even the joke as being indicative of sexual interest.

Especially someone that looks like Weiner. You know he’s not used to getting alot of attention form the ladies.
Cecelia

I think people need to understand too that Weiner NOT wanting to involve the police is not a “smoking gun” of guilt.

You could pick out ten Mediaite readers and categorically rule them out as to having hacked Weiner’s YFrog account. However, if you told them that they then shouldn’t mind the authorities going through their online activities and hard drives since they have nothing to hide… you’re likely going to get a “hell no”…

Weiner not wanting that sort of scrutiny does NOT mean that he was not hacked.
Liberal Tormentor

I think people need to understand too that Weiner NOT wanting to involve the police is not a “smoking gun” of guilt.

You also need to take into account Weiner’s past behavior. He’s LOVES nothing more than a good investigation/witchhunt. The fact that he seems afraid of one here, is a big deal and you know it.
Cecelia

“The point stands, though, that there are many explanations for the Seattle reference, and his hometown team’s presence there is just one example.”

I’m sure Weiner would appreciate your sharing with him the next explanation on that list.
Cecelia

Liberal Tormentor said:
You also need to take into account Weiner’s past behavior. He’s LOVES nothing more than a good investigation/witchhunt. The fact that he seems afraid of one here, is a big deal and you know it.

Well, Michelle, I think it’s safe to say that even the most ardent fans of witch hunts, as less fond of them when they’re the focus.
http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

ninjapirate said:
“The tide of this story has begun to swing in Rep. Weiner’s favor, for the time being”

No it hasn’t and quite honestly I don’t think you should be reporting on this… it’s weird how you were instantly followed by her and her boyfriend… it was also odd how the New York Daily News and Mediate were chosen as the main outlets for her statement.

“The presumption of innocence should be that much stronger.”

If he takes this to the police I will start taking him seriously… but for now Occum’s Razor points to him sending out the tweet.

You’d sound more credible mentioning Occam’s razor if you could spell it correctly. Just saying.
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Business must be very, very slow if the people at Mediaite have to keep this story going. This was obviously a prank, and , of course, when you have Breitbart’s name attached to the story it all becomes even more suspicious. Weiner is a dangerous person for the rightwingers because he’s very bright and has dogged New York style determination about issues, and he’s usually on the side of the angels. Virtually everything Brietbart is involved with has an element of criminal intent wrapped around it. It’s a shame that Mediaite gets involved in such low level stuff, but I hope the perpetrators are tracked down and prosecuted.
Another thing is the hysterical and hypocrticial bent of many rightwingers. Do you realize that in another 24 hours you are going to be or should be further embarrassed by wasting so much time on nonsense. Do you think that in a million years a smart guy like Weiner is going to do something to jeopardize his career? He’s not a Spitzer or any one of the dozens of politicians, mostly Republicans, who have been caught in compromised situations. And who cares about these sexual peccadillos, unless it’s something serious like rape, pandering or like Monsieur Kahn’s outrageous behavior. It’s a a cliche, but my advice to many of you is to get a real life with real people instead of playing mind games with with yourselves and this blog so much of the time.
darladoon

Tommy Christopher said:
The entire premise of this piece is to critique the speculation that has already been done, and any scenarios I offer here are to illustrate that point. In other words, those who speculate that Weiner’s Seattle tweet indicates guilt should also fairly acknowledge that it could easily have been innocent, “For example, Weiner is a famously ardent Yankees fan, and his beloved team was playing in Seattle on Friday. Cordova’s retweet would be the natural reaction of a fan to a mention of her hometown.”

not that *you* haven’t done any speculating. you’re totally innocent in that matter….lol.

you guys ran the weiner story 3 straight days……but you’re not speculating. just others…..lol
Pablo

Update: Rep. Weiner is actually a lifelong Mets fan.

I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there.
cjd ohio 1

the update is funny as hell, i was wrong , but the excuse is still good, lol
mlb

OMG would this story just die already! If he wasn’t married to Hillary’s lover Huma would any of us care?

So he tweeted his penis and showed the world he isn’t above 8th grade behavior. This is newsworthy because he is now saying it wasn’t him and all the messengers of the story should be questioned/doubted thrown into one conspiracy after another?
Look the guy got caught with his pants down, whether he was hacked or not could be easily solved by a savvy tech person, since we haven’t heard anything from experts in this hackery, I suggest we all sit back and watch the truth come out- and it will.
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

will the upcoming Edwards indictment help or hurt in finding the AW hacker?

will there be another hack soon to stir the pot?
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

chuck schumer just commented…

he is “virtually certain” it was a hack…
BatBoy

Tommy did his part, a little over 1,600 words starting off by saying “…as the rush to judgment has overshadowed the fair presentation of the facts.”

Since when has the liberal media ever been concerned with the presentation of facts?
Before you libs say you want proof, how about the Tucson Shooting for example….Oh there are many more.
notsofast

Nacho said:
They should ask Glenn Beck. He can identify Wieners cock, he got fvcked the hardest by the congressman.

No, you got all your holes filled by Weiner, son.
Colorado_Conservative

BatBoy said:
Tommy did his part, a little over 1,600 words starting off by saying “…as the rush to judgment has overshadowed the fair presentation of the facts.”

Since when has the liberal media ever been concerned with the presentation of facts?
Before you libs say you want proof, how about the Tucson Shooting for example….Oh there are many more.

Be careful when presenting a factual statement here at Mediaite or your post will be deleted!!!
BatBoy

BatBoy said:

It must be good to be a democrat

You get a little bad publicity
…then the media surrounds the wagons and writes stories to protect you.

Tommy did his part, a little over 1,600 words starting off by saying “…as the rush to judgment has overshadowed the fair presentation of the facts.” Since when has the liberal media ever been concerned with the presentation of facts?Before you libs say you want proof, how about the Tucson Shooting for example….Oh there are many more.

I left off the first three lines……it is now complete.
BatBoy

Colorado_Conservative said:
Be careful when presenting a factual statement here at Mediaite or your post will be deleted!!!

This one has been deleted twice today. They don’t like those facts, do they?

I fully suspect Tommy will hit the delete button again.
Liberal Tormentor

I purpose we change the name of the scandal to “pee-peegate”.
Big Eddie

Weinergate . Day 4 .

FBI been in yet ?
notsofast

Speculation And Sloppy Reporting On Both Sides Of ‘Weinergate”

When TC makes an admission like this, it means the lib spin is getting out of control even for a far left lib like him. He had to say “both sides’ to give it some lib cover.
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

you might think that the Left would be screaming for an investigation into the hack…
Kos Kids could/would love to serve up Breitbart and Loesch to Fed prison time…
unless…
cjd ohio 1

msnbc just circled the wagons
Colorado_Conservative

skoorbekim said:
you might think that the Left would be screaming for an investigation into the hack…
Kos Kids could/would love to serve up Breitbart and Loesch to Fed prison time…
unless…

unless…..they already know what they would discover and it would not be good news for Weiner.
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

cjd ohio 1 said:
msnbc just circled the wagons

The folks at MSNB know AW quite well…
how often is he in their studios?
they might know what type of person he is…
if this hack happened to a Congressman I respected or liked I would be demanding that the hackers be brought to justice…
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

Colorado_Conservative said:
unless…..they already know what they would discover and it would not be good news for Weiner.

this could be the perfect opportunity for the Kos Kids and Joan Walsh types to bring down Breitbart… to jail…

at least the MSM, if AW is such a good and decent man, could send out some DNC folks to defend his character in public…
edisciple

Rep Anthony Weiner “allegedly” tweeted a picture of his wiener & this is the story of the weekend (probably all week)! No wonder credibility factor of news media is in the toilet!
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

law enforcement should make a public example out of any “prankster” that hacks the accounts of a US Congressman… for national security sake…
unless…
http://mediaite.com Lizzie Manning

I’ve posted this earlier on some other comment threads, but it bears repeating here. We are editing comments much more thoroughly lately because we’re trying to make the comments section more of a platform for intelligent, on topic discussion. I’ve deleted some comments today because they were rude to the author of the piece. You are allowed to disagree with stories, but please don’t directly insult writers. We work hard here and it’s not called for. Also, the author of the piece is generally not the person doing the deleting, so don’t blame him or her. Similarly, if you are rude to another commenter I will delete your comment. You can absolutely address each other and even disagree, but do so RESPECTFULLY. We’ll be posting a new set of commenting guidelines soon– look out for them. Thanks.
Liberal Tormentor

Lizzie, I look forward to seeing what comments you choose to delete and which you don’t. I’ve personally been the receipient of absolutely vile comments that your “writers” didn’t seem to mind.
http://mediaite.com Lizzie Manning

Liberal Tormentor– This is a very new thing we’re trying out with commenters and unfortunately we cannot erase the ills of the past. But I will be doing my best to make sure that everyone is allowed to post without harsh responses.
http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

The “coverage” of this story has been laughable, all around.

Heck. I wonder if Caleb Howe uses yfrog or if he simply went to the service’s homepage, where it says a few times that you can tweet and read tweets from its interface or maybe he looked at any page in the service, where it says “log in with Twitter (no signup required)”.

Of course, there’s also all this speculation from blogs and commenters about how a misdemeanor case of “unauthorized use of a computer” with a maximum penalty of one year is the “number one hack of the decade”, and all kinds of nonsense about how a password breach of Rep. Weiner’s personal Twitter account could be a question of national security. (Heck. I’ve seen people claim its similar to someone mimicking DHS to send a terror alert)

Oh, and lots of blogs have been using the “wrest control back in four minutes” scheme, as if a person who may have gained unauthorized access to Rep. Weiner’s account would’ve locked them out, which would make his claim of “hacking” seem that much more credible. Of course, a lot of those who have been pushing the story also point toward the “Seattle” hashtag as a sign of something nefarious, but no one seems to consider the possibility that the same person who tweeted the photo could’ve also tweeted the hashtag.

I don’t know what happened and as I’ve said previously, I don’t really care politically. I do have some concerns for the effect this situation may have on the use of social media and for the future of citizen journalism because it looks like one or both are likely to suffer.

Right now we know that one person, and apparently only one person, claims to have seen the tweet in the wild with the accompanying image and they forwarded it to representatives of the Breitbart blogs, who seem to have put every measure of their own credibility behind this report, even though they initially used tentative language to cover their flank.

Of course, Tommy and others were using the 44,000 followers and only one retweet as grounds to question the report’s veracity, but anyone with a cursory knowledge of Twitter would know that an @reply would only show in the timeline of someone who followed both the Congressman and the young lady. I haven’t done the math, but I assume the mutual followers wouldn’t number much more than a dozen, if that many and it’d be further limited to just the mutual followers who were monitoring Twitter at that particular time on a Friday night.

All we know is that a tweet went out from the Congressman’s account addressed to an individual, which included a pointer to a yfrog image. The tweet was reported to people associated with the Breitbart empire and the person who filed the report claimed the image was of a pair of boxer briefs.

Perhaps that’s true and if so, it would certainly raise questions, but even if that aspect of the story is true, pretty much everything else has been pure politics from both sides of the blogosphere.

We really just have the one thing, a tweet was tweeted and everything else is just noise.
—-

PS) For those claiming that this is a clear violation of the law, the only thing that would unquestionably apply is the above misdemeanor. Perhaps there’s a law about impersonating a Congressman, but if it exists (I haven’t looked), it’s never been used in regards to a social media account and the issue is clouded by the fact that the account is the Congressman’s personal.

As for the idea that it’d be easy to find the culprit, if it’s not the Congressman, a hacker famously brute-forced their way into a Twitter admin’s account to post tweets from Fox News, President-elect Obama and scores of celebrities. When Twitter was contacted for comment, Biz Stone said that he was unsure what they could do, they hadn’t been in contact with authorities and a quick search, plus my memory finds no record of anyone, anywhere, being arrested or convicted of sending an unauthorized tweet.

BTW: In the 2009 incident, though there was an obvious “unauthorized use” violation and the often used crime of “trespassing” in regards the hacker’s use of Twiiter’s resources may have applied, when contacted by “Wired”, Mr. Stone said that they had consulted the company’s attorneys as to how they should proceed.
got a grip

I am in favor of some guidelines for the comments, but frankly was not impressed by the way it was explained here as well as its tone…” You are allowed to disagree”… gee, thanks. ” I will delete your comment, cause we work hard here and its not called for”… . hope this was respectful enough to meet your standards.
notsofast

Hey, even the Dailykos is turning sour on the Weinerman:

Tue May 31, 2011 at 07:04 AM PDT
Why hasn’t Weiner contacted the FBI/Law Enforcement to report Breitbart’s hack?

by Randolphjenkins
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There is something that has me deeply disturbed about the recent Breitbart “scandal”.
One thing that is clear to me is that Breitbart and his minions were behind this, and have been attempting to set Congressman Weiner up for a long time now. But other than that fact, there is a lot that I don’t understand.

Hacking is, or at least can be, a federal felony punishable by as many as ten years in jail. There’s one felony.

Sending explicit images of genitalia (and whether the infamous bulge shot would count would be something a prosecutor would determine, but I would imagine this would fall under a statute in Washington State or in NY as sexual harassment or even sexual assault) is extremely serious. Most likely, that’s another felony.

Further, what Breitbart did is falsely accuse Congressman Weiner of attempting to have an affair, or at least engage in extremely inappropriate communication with a college student in Washington. That’s an attempt to jeopardize the Congressman’s marriage.

So far, there are at least two felonies attributable to Breitbart’s conduct, as well as an attempt to destroy a marriage.

This is no laughing matter.

So why is Congressman Weiner, as far as every report has shown, refusing to go to the FBI? Why is he now treating this as a prank?

Breitbart is, as much as anyone else besides Rush Limbaugh, the leader of the tea-baggers. He’s who they blindly follow, and take their marching orders from. And according to Representative Weiner, Breitbart has committed at least two felonies and attempted to destroy Weiner’s marriage. So Congressman Weiner has a chance to pursue justice against a man who has hacked into his account and attempted to threaten his marriage, but is instead treating this as a prank. Why?

Instead of going to the FBI or the Capitol Hill Police, Congressman Weiner is now calling this a prank, says he’s loathe to treat it as anything more, and hired an attorney? Why would the victim of hacking need an attorney? A prosecutor, who of course doesn’t need to be hired by a private party, could take care of the criminal charges.

Think about it from the perspective of the college student in Washington who was sexually harassed by Andrew Breitbart or one of his minions. Why not seek justice for her? Why not contact the FBI?

This isn’t adding up at all.
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

CNN will be interviewing Breitbart at some point today…
BatBoy

Lizzie Manning said:
You are allowed to disagree with stories, but please don’t directly insult writers.

Lizzy, You are going to be busy.

When were writers free from being commented about?
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

Lizzie Manning said:
But I will be doing my best to make sure that everyone is allowed to post without harsh responses.

what is you policy on the “teaba@@er” slur?
BatBoy

Lizzie Manning said:
I’ve posted this earlier on some other comment threads, but it bears repeating here. We are editing comments much more thoroughly lately because we’re trying to make the comments section more of a platform for intelligent, on topic discussion. I’ve deleted some comments today because they were rude to the author of the piece. You are allowed to disagree with stories, but please don’t directly insult writers. We work hard here and it’s not called for. Also, the author of the piece is generally not the person doing the deleting, so don’t blame him or her. Similarly, if you are rude to another commenter I will delete your comment. You can absolutely address each other and even disagree, but do so RESPECTFULLY. We’ll be posting a new set of commenting guidelines soon– look out for them. Thanks.

What about with the writes insult us….

Tommy has a long history of calling people filthy names, fir for only a discussion in a barn yard.

I say, if you clean up your act, this will clean up by itself.
lazzzlo

Lizzie Manning said:
I’ve posted this earlier on some other comment threads, but it bears repeating here. We are editing comments much more thoroughly lately because we’re trying to make the comments section more of a platform for intelligent, on topic discussion. I’ve deleted some comments today because they were rude to the author of the piece. You are allowed to disagree with stories, but please don’t directly insult writers. We work hard here and it’s not called for. Also, the author of the piece is generally not the person doing the deleting, so don’t blame him or her. Similarly, if you are rude to another commenter I will delete your comment. You can absolutely address each other and even disagree, but do so RESPECTFULLY. We’ll be posting a new set of commenting guidelines soon– look out for them. Thanks.

That is actually the 1st time I have have ever seen something like this.
lazzzlo

Groovy.
Dem4Ever

If this, self admitted ‘Far Left Socialist Democrat’, was hacked and framed for this online sex act then why aren’t the Libs and Progs out protesting and calling for an immediate investigation? Why the complete and utter silence?
lazzzlo

Nacho posted a direct link to porn
Darr247

Did he claim to have been hacked in a halting (James Tiberius Kirk-ish) manner, like, “I did not… have… sexual relations… with… that woman… with Miss Lewinsky” ?
Darr247

Lizzie Manning
[snip]
Similarly, if you are rude to another commenter I will delete your comment. You can absolutely address each other and even disagree, but do so RESPECTFULLY. We’ll be posting a new set of commenting guidelines soon– look out for them. Thanks.

[Gasp]! You don’t think you’re actually going to take this site back from the TP’rs after you let them take it over, do you?

HAH.

To paraphrase Judas Priest and Pat Boone (who both – incorrectly, IMHO – say “thing” in their lyrics), you’ve got another think coming.
TheRealRoyalQueen

Tommy Christopher said:
The entire premise of this piece is to critique the speculation that has already been done, and any scenarios I offer here are to illustrate that point. In other words, those who speculate that Weiner’s Seattle tweet indicates guilt should also fairly acknowledge that it could easily have been innocent, “For example, Weiner is a famously ardent Yankees fan, and his beloved team was playing in Seattle on Friday. Cordova’s retweet would be the natural reaction of a fan to a mention of her hometown.”

Tommy in Weiner’s “9:45/5:45 Seattle time” tweet he mentioned nothing about baseball. He was tweeting about what time he was going to be on MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow show. So why would you even bring up a possible baseball scenario? We who have been following this scandal know what he was tweeting about. How could you not know this Tommy?
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http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

I’m going to append a question here that I asked on page 2 of the “Breitbart/CNN” thread because it’s related to the concept of sloppy speculation and I haven’t felt motivated to dive too deep in the various tweet-based discussions, but…

Does anyone even know whether Twitter maintains records of IP addresses? Perhaps, if the offending tweet was sent via yfrog it’d be a different story, but considering that there’s never been a single arrest as far as I’m aware of anyone sending a spoof tweet and the fact that Twitter has come down firmly on the side of free expression, it stands to reason that they may not keep such records.
Face-Ripper Monkey

skoorbekim said:
what is you policy on the “teaba@@er” slur?

Also, what about the spurious (def. 1) accusations of racism and homophobia by the spurious (def. 3) lefties?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/spurious
lane

I assumed that this was hack, but since he’s contacting a lawyer rather than the FBI/capital police, well, that’s just odd. This guy lives for press coverage, now he’s hoping it just goes away. Very suspicious now. Certainly, there’s something more to the story or he’s not thinking straight….

Simply doesn’t make sense, so more to come I assume.

Can’t everyone agree in the meantime, that revealing the recipient’s name is not okay
BatBoy

Whenpowerful people want to get caught, they leave well documented trails.

i.e. Client # 9

I suspect Weiner will be checking into Betty Ford in a few days.! How would the press spin that one??????
BatBoy

BatBoy said:
How would the press spin that one??????

Certainly that does not include the Mediaite writers….Just Saying!
http://cbcf.groupsite.com Miss Capri

Probably another 4chan/anonymous/b opperation…
Betty Cracker

It would be irresponsible NOT to assume any “news” item proffered by Brietbart’s outfit is a hoax unless provided incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.
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