Once again he proves it: Colbert is played out…
We all know the formula Stephen: caffinated fueled overkill…
(but not Colby; if college kids like it its gotta be good)
someday the next crop of college kids will know it too well to tune in…
Without the Stewart lead-in Colbert would have Current-TV ratings…

Republicans lie to the American people EVERY DAY. They deserve to be called out on their harmful rhetoric.

skoorbekim said:
Once again he proves it: Colbert is played out…We all know the formula Stephen: caffinated fueled overkill…(but not Colby; if college kids like it its gotta be good)someday the next crop of college kids will know it too well to tune in…Without the Stewart lead-in Colbert would have Current-TV ratings…

I assume that was not intended to be a factual statement.

So very sad this one has become.

valkyrie101 said:
I assume that was not intended to be a factual statement.

It would be hard not to get your reference since Colbert has been hyping it for 48 hours…

The Colbert formula is like the caffinated version of Charlie Sheen’s “winninggg”

This is all rather sad. Both parties are filled with liars and the partisans on both sides, like Mediaite, Colbert, FNC and Rush break their backs to defend their side regardless. But the issue remains is that as each day passes, and each law is passed by these corrupt incompetent buffoons we lose more and more freedom.

-Patriot Act (signed by both President Obama and President Bush)
-Disgusting searches by government goons at the air port.
-School districts forbidding children to bring their own lunches.
-Endless war
-Taxation

…and the list goes on.

Regardless of your party, you have to admit that we are consistently inundated with more and more laws pushed upon us by these people in the name of “safety” and “security.” But the reality is, as government becomes more and more powerful, our individual liberty gets smaller and smaller.

While this operative of the Obama regime diverts attention away from the real issue at hand, instead fixating the weak minded among us a rediculous statement proferred by Senator Kyle, Planned Parenthood inc. has murdered another 2,712 innocent ” real ” Americans that could not defend or speak up for themselves.

So go ahead and yuck it up libs, but just be glad YOUR parents didn’t have such low regard for you as you do for the you that will never be.

I wonder how much percentage wise, as a dollar amount of PPH’s yearly budget goes towards these murders as opposed to the other services they perform. I bet you’d be a little less amuzed if that number was made public.

Is Kyl a Mormon? That would explain his aversion to history and facts.

LOL! I am laughing so hard right now!*

* Not intendehhhh… you know.

Regardless of your politics, Colbert (his writers and his performances) is very funny…still have the vision of him pulling out a coupon card to clip it when we went into Libya- we were up to 3 wars, the 10th is free.

Barack Must Go said:
fixating the weak minded among us

FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL USES YOU WEAK MINDED PEOPLE ALL THE TIME TO PROMOTE THEIR AGENDA OF RUINING AMERICA! TELL ME WHO WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN AFTER THEY WERE BORN! YOU REAPUBLICAN/TEAPUBLICANS USE THIS CRAP ALL THE TIME TO DISCREDIT PLANNED PARENTHOOD!
YET WHEN THE LIVING BREATHING AMERICAN CHILDREN WHO ARE ALIVE HAVE NOTHING TO EAT OR MEDICAL CARE YOU SAY,”THEY ARE SUCKING AT THE TIT OF AMERICA” AND TAKING OUR MONEY TO DO IT! YOU ARE DISGUSTING AND FALSE IN YOUR OUTRAGE!

Onesweetworld79 said:
Republicans lie to the American people EVERY DAY. They deserve to be called out on their harmful rhetoric.

Yes, so let’s completely make some stuff up and pretend like a Republican said it! That’s teach ‘em!

Barack Must Go said:
I wonder how much percentage wise, as a dollar amount of PPH’s yearly budget goes towards these murders as opposed to the other services they perform.

3% of the services provided by Planned Parenthood are abortions.

Pablo said:
completely make some stuff up

REPUBLICAN/TEAPUBLICANS DO THIS ALL THE TIME! THEY DO NOT NEED ANY HELP LYING! THEY HAVE THAT DOWN PAT!

Talk about irony…the Left, who now give up on facts and hide behind comedy personae, gripe about the facts of the very politicians they refuse to debate. If Mr. Colbert wants to debate the abortion issue with Senator Kyl, he can give up his pathetic masquerade and invite the Senator on his show for an honest discussion. But you won’t see that happen. The Left now lives with one-liners and jokes in a permanently fact-free zone, and Mr. Colbert is a perfect example.

BlueBunny said:
DO IT! YOU ARE DISGUSTING AND FALSE IN YOUR OUTRAGE!

CAPS and exclamation points…
Colbert styled overkill…

Stephen Hogan said:
3% of the services provided by Planned Parenthood are abortions.

What % of PP abortions are African-American?

skoorbekim said:
What % of PP abortions are African-American?

Why does that matter?

More Liberty5 said:
This is all rather sad. Both parties are filled with liars and the partisans on both sides, like Mediaite, Colbert, FNC and Rush break their backs to defend their side regardless. But the issue remains is that as each day passes, and each law is passed by these corrupt incompetent buffoons we lose more and more freedom.

-Patriot Act (signed by both President Obama and President Bush)
-Disgusting searches by government goons at the air port.
-School districts forbidding children to bring their own lunches.
-Endless war
-Taxation

…and the list goes on.

Regardless of your party, you have to admit that we are consistently inundated with more and more laws pushed upon us by these people in the name of “safety” and “security.” But the reality is, as government becomes more and more powerful, our individual liberty gets smaller and smaller.

I couldn’t agree more….the sad thing about this guy is that he couldn’t even admit he was just throwing numbers around without actually thinking. Instead, he had to tell his staff to cover for him with a rather hilarious remark….which is why this sketch is so funny…a bit played out, yes..but pretty hilarious!

felixw said:
Talk about irony…the Left, who now give up on facts and hide behind comedy personae, gripe about the facts of the very politicians they refuse to debate. If Mr. Colbert wants to debate the abortion issue with Senator Kyl, he can give up his pathetic masquerade and invite the Senator on his show for an honest discussion. But you won’t see that happen. The Left now lives with one-liners and jokes in a permanently fact-free zone, and Mr. Colbert is a perfect example.

If you want to see how stale and uncreative Colbert has become, look no farther than his “interview” with Laura Ingraham…
Two Dartmouth grads had the opportunity for an ideological discussion, but all Colbert kept loudly repeating is the one sentence in her book that mentioned “fried chicken” dinner…
Intellectually lazy…

skoorbekim said:
CAPS and exclamation points…
Colbert styled overkill…

Your back!!! Did you sleep well?

Stephen Hogan said:
Why does that matter?

Because if something disproportionately affects minorities, it is automatically racist even if the intent behind it is not. Or so we’ve been told over and over and over again.

More Liberty5 said:
This is all rather sad. Both parties are filled with liars and the partisans on both sides, like Mediaite, Colbert, FNC and Rush break their backs to defend their side regardless. But the issue remains is that as each day passes, and each law is passed by these corrupt incompetent buffoons we lose more and more freedom. -Patriot Act (signed by both President Obama and President Bush)-Disgusting searches by government goons at the air port.-School districts forbidding children to bring their own lunches.-Endless war-Taxation …and the list goes on. Regardless of your party, you have to admit that we are consistently inundated with more and more laws pushed upon us by these people in the name of “safety” and “security.” But the reality is, as government becomes more and more powerful, our individual liberty gets smaller and smaller.

Tha’s OK, liberty, let it all out. Sure, things look bad, and even the Mormons are increasing their stock piles in anticipation of the great meltdown, but I assure you, He has the whole world in His hands. Things will work out.

Stephen Hogan said:
Why does that matter?

You have zero concern for that issue?

RowdyHoward said:
Your back!!! Did you sleep well?

Like a log…

BadGenome said:
Because if something disproportionately affects minorities, it is automatically racist even if the intent behind it is not. Or so we’ve been told over and over and over again.

Yeah, if you’re going to be a baby about it…it does seem a bit off topic, and Stephen just asked a simple question

AP lies ! Associated Press put out this false story this morning .

“Facing criticism over the amount of taxes it pays, General Electric announced it will repay its entire $3.2 billion tax refund to the US Treasury on April 18.

GE uses a series of foreign tax havens that the company says are legal and that led to an enormous refund for the 2010 tax year.

The company earned $11 billion in 2010 on revenue of $150 billion.

The company, based in Fairfield, Conn., plans to phase out tax havens over 5 years and said it will create one job in the US for each new job it creates overseas. “

BadGenome said:
Because if something disproportionately affects minorities, it is automatically racist even if the intent behind it is not. Or so we’ve been told over and over and over again.

Yes, it disproportionately effects minorities. However, there is a pretty simple third variable here; low-income. Planned Parenthood primarily provides services for women of low income. At the same time, minorities are much more likely to fall into lower economic classes than whites. Considering these fact, it would make sense that a large percentage of their client base would be women of color.

RowdyHoward said:
Yeah, if you’re going to be a baby about it…it does seem a bit off topic, and Stephen just asked a simple question

And I just gave him a simple answer, baby.

skoorbekim said:
Like a log…

Good deal, let’s go ahead and start disagreeing on something. As long as we can always be courteous in the end, I could see this becoming a long lasting like/hate relationship.

Round 1…

FIGHT!!!

Stephen Hogan said:
Yes, it disproportionately effects minorities. However, there is a pretty simple third variable here; low-income

Adoption agencies pay very well…

Stephen Hogan said:
Yes, it disproportionately effects minorities. However, there is a pretty simple third variable here; low-income. Planned Parenthood primarily provides services for women of low income. At the same time, minorities are much more likely to fall into lower economic classes than whites. Considering these fact, it would make sense that a large percentage of their client base would be women of color.

And they get to engage in their love of killing blacks* while pretending to provide a valuable service. Convenient!

* Probably.

skoorbekim said:
You have zero concern for that issue?

I have concern for that issue in as much as it is a symptom of economic inequality, rather than an issue in and of itself.

Stephen Hogan said:
I have concern for that issue in as much as it is a symptom of economic inequality, rather than an issue in and of itself.

So PP aborts poor people’s children?

BadGenome said:
And I just gave him a simple answer, baby.

Haha, already calling names! Does that mean you’re the grown-up here?

You really didn’t answer why…you answered in a sarcastic manner because you seem to be insecure about where you stand in regards to race issues.

skoorbekim said:
Adoption agencies pay very well…

No, they do not. It is illegal to receive payment for your child.

BlueBunny said:
FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL USES YOU WEAK MINDED PEOPLE ALL THE TIME TO PROMOTE THEIR AGENDA OF RUINING AMERICA! TELL ME WHO WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN AFTER THEY WERE BORN! YOU REAPUBLICAN/TEAPUBLICANS USE THIS CRAP ALL THE TIME TO DISCREDIT PLANNED PARENTHOOD!
YET WHEN THE LIVING BREATHING AMERICAN CHILDREN WHO ARE ALIVE HAVE NOTHING TO EAT OR MEDICAL CARE YOU SAY,”THEY ARE SUCKING AT THE TIT OF AMERICA” AND TAKING OUR MONEY TO DO IT! YOU ARE DISGUSTING AND FALSE IN YOUR OUTRAGE!

Do not get pregnant in the first place. How’s that for a novel idea?

If a poor, minority person living in the ghetto, all expenses of us ” real ” American taxpayer, what is their incentive to EVER become a responsible, contributing member of society?……..NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA.

The democrat / liberal side of the government is so morally bankrupt they keep this ever expanding segment of the population ( according to cencus ) at or below the poverty level on purpose.

They don’t want these fellow human beings mingling into their world. They simply keep them as slaves and or caged animals. Their only interaction is taunting them with a stick ( lies about Republicans ) when campaign season is upon us.

So bullshit youself all you like. The truth is THE truth no matter what the Obama regime spews to the contrary.

skoorbekim said:
So PP aborts poor people’s children?

Yes, they do. They also provide abortion services to middle and upper-class women, however middle and upper-class women would be just as likely to go to a doctor for that.

RowdyHoward said:
Haha, already calling names! Does that mean you’re the grown-up here?

You really didn’t answer why…you answered in a sarcastic manner because you seem to be insecure about where you stand in regards to race issues.

Nah. When you called me a baby, you were implying that I was whining. When I called you baby, I was sexually harassing you.

No insecurity here, baby. Playing the race card is just fun, is all. No wonder lefties do it so often.

BadGenome said:
And they get to engage in their love of killing blacks* while pretending to provide a valuable service. Convenient!

* Probably.

I know you’re probably trolling here, but I’d like to reiterate that abortion only comprises 3% of what PP provides.

Stephen Hogan said:
I know you’re probably trolling here, but I’d like to reiterate that abortion only comprises 3% of what PP provides.

Er… 3% of their spending goes towards abortions, you mean? That’s still 330,000 dead babies each year. Even an extremely prolific (possibly racist) serial killer would be pretty satisfied with that body count!

BadGenome said:
Nah. When you called me a baby, you were implying that I was whining. When I called you baby, I was sexually harassing you.

No insecurity here, baby. Playing the race card is just fun, is all. No wonder lefties do it so often.

Flattered, although I’m not into gays…not that there’s anything wrong with your lifestyle choice…I’m just happy with the ladies.

You see, I thought that is why you said what you said…because you think it’s fun. That is why I implied that anyone who thinks this, is a baby…not that you were whining. I’m thinking you don’t really believe your first statement, am I right?

Calm down, don’t be so defensive, some people like to have constructive discussions and debate here.

Stephen Hogan said:
No, they do not. It is illegal to receive payment for your child.

point taken…
abortion is easier and cheaper than giving a child up for adoption…
However,
The most dangerous place for a black child is in the womb… In NYC the survival rate is 47%…
If you wish to explain that away with income disparity, so be it…
The issue is that many do not want a single penny of tax revenue to be given to an abortion provider…

BadGenome said:
Er… 3% of their spending goes towards abortions, you mean? That’s still 330,000 dead babies each year. Even an extremely prolific (possibly racist) serial killer would be pretty satisfied with that body count!

No, I mean 3% of the services they provide. Percentage of spending is an entirely different measure.

skoorbekim said:
If you want to see how stale and uncreative Colbert has become, look no farther than his “interview” with Laura Ingraham…
Two Dartmouth grads had the opportunity for an ideological discussion, but all Colbert kept loudly repeating is the one sentence in her book that mentioned “fried chicken” dinner…
Intellectually lazy…

I agree. It is amazing that Colbert has taken this tired shtick and been able to build a whole career out of it. But the Left has retreated from public debate and dialogue and has retired into the world of comedy, and has an insatiable appetite for ridicule. Instead of engaging in frank open discussion with conservative thinkers, they set up make-believe straw men like Colbert — so they can live in a fantasy world in which their infantile nanny state mentality and out-of-control spending habits are never challenged. This is the same reason why they are giving Trump so much coverage. They themselves live in a world of jokes, so they only want to deal with joke candidates.

What a rude awakening they will get in November of next year. Voters will be voting based on issues, not shtick.

felixw said:
What a rude awakening they will get in November of next year. Voters will be voting based on issues, not shtick.

I am always amazed to find out how many political pundits on the Left watch Colbert…
When he was new and fresh I thought he was great…
But wearing a US flag suit and running back and forth on stage in front of the largest all white gathering in DC since the 1920′s Klan marches reinforced my opinion of him…
get creative or move over…

Conservative bitch about abortions. Conservatives bitch about welfare. Conservatives bitch about paying for people in jail. Conservatives bitch about contraceptives and teaching this to kids in school.

MAKE UP YOUR FU****G MINDS!!

skoorbekim said:
point taken…
abortion is easier and cheaper than giving a child up for adoption…
However,
The most dangerous place for a black child is in the womb… In NYC the survival rate is 47%…
If you wish to explain that away with income disparity, so be it…
The issue is that many do not want a single penny of tax revenue to be given to an abortion provider…

I’m not going to try and explain that away with income disparity, but it would be incredibly foolish not to consider income disparity a huge factor. The US experienced a decline of abortions that lasted decades and only ended in 2008, around the time that the financial crisis began.

And the abortion rate for blacks in NYC is actually closer to 60%, I believe. A figure more grave than the 47% survival rate that you mentioned.

I must clarify. I am pro-choice, but I am in no way ‘pro-abortion’. I consider each a tragedy and my feelings on the matter are why I support Planned Parenthood. Although they do provide abortion services (services that are legal and their utilization should be done at the discretion of the woman), that only makes up 3% of what they provide. 35% goes towards contraception, another 35% goes toward STD testing and treatment, and 16% goes towards cancer screening and treatment. Far more of their resources are directed toward the prevention of unwanted pregnancy, meaning that they are actively trying to reduce abortion. Hence why I am so perplexed that pro-life advocates would want to defund them.

I would think that the reduction of abortion (without infringing on the rights of the woman) would be a unifying point for both parties.

Stephen Hogan said:
I’m not going to try and explain that away with income disparity, but it would be incredibly foolish not to consider income disparity a huge factor. The US experienced a decline of abortions that lasted decades and only ended in 2008, around the time that the financial crisis began.

And the abortion rate for blacks in NYC is actually closer to 60%, I believe. A figure more grave than the 47% survival rate that you mentioned.

I must clarify. I am pro-choice, but I am in no way ‘pro-abortion’. I consider each a tragedy and my feelings on the matter are why I support Planned Parenthood. Although they do provide abortion services (services that are legal and their utilization should be done at the discretion of the woman), that only makes up 3% of what they provide. 35% goes towards contraception, another 35% goes toward STD testing and treatment, and 16% goes towards cancer screening and treatment. Far more of their resources are directed toward the prevention of unwanted pregnancy, meaning that they are actively trying to reduce abortion. Hence why I am so perplexed that pro-life advocates would want to defund them.

I would think that the reduction of abortion (without infringing on the rights of the woman) would be a unifying point for both parties.

Very thoughtful statement, thank you for bringing more insight to the discussion.

Stephen Hogan said:
Hence why I am so perplexed that pro-life advocates would want to defund them.

I would think that the reduction of abortion (without infringing on the rights of the woman) would be a unifying point for both parties.

When it come to abortion, logic rarely enters the equation. This is truly an issue where men have no say, but control the discussion. Kyl’s statement shows the lengths those opposed will go to suppress the rights of others. The old quote “if men could get pregnant, abortion pills would be available in condom machines in gas station bathrooms” would become instantly true.

skoorbekim said:
So PP aborts poor people’s children?

CONSIDERING THE ‘RICH” JUST HAVE THEIR PRIVATE DOCTORS TAKE CARE OF THE “PROBLEM” ! OR SHIP THE PERSON OUT OF AMERICA TO TAKE CARE OF IT SO NO ONE WOULD KNOW !

Stephen Hogan said:
No, I mean 3% of the services they provide. Percentage of spending is an entirely different measure.

That’s interesting. They see 3 million patients a year, and do 330,000 abortions, accounting for 37% of their revenues. So, 10% of their clients get abortions in any given year, providing well over a third of their income, and they do all of that on 3% of their business.

Guess what, Joey? You’re being lied to, and sucking it up.

skoorbekim said:
But wearing a US flag suit and running back and forth on stage in front of the largest all white gathering in DC since the 1920’s Klan marches reinforced my opinion of him…

You are implying that he has control over the demographics of his audience, when he most certainly doesn’t.

And that wasn’t simply a US flag suit; that was an Evel Knievel suit :)

Barack Must Go said:
Do not get pregnant in the first plac

DID YA GIVE THAT STUPID PIECE OF ADVICE TO FALIN PALINS DAUGHTER! OH I FORGOT SHE HAS MONEY SO ITS ALL GOOD! YOU ARE IGNORANT ON THIS SUBJECT!PLANNED PARENTHOOD OFFERS MANY OTHER HELPFUL SERVICES THAN JUST HELPING SOMEONE WHO FINDS THEMSELVES IN THIS SITUATION!

Pablo said:
That’s interesting. They see 3 million patients a year, and do 330,000 abortions, accounting for 37% of their revenues. So, 10% of their clients get abortions in any given year, providing well over a third of their income, and they do all of that on 3% of their business.

Guess what, Joey? You’re being lied to, and sucking it up.

Who’s Joey? I’d think twice before just sucking up some figures from anywhere…especially from Pablo or any of his “sources”

Onesweetworld79 said:
Conservative bitch about abortions. Conservatives bitch about welfare. Conservatives bitch about paying for people in jail. Conservatives bitch about contraceptives and teaching this to kids in school.

MAKE UP YOUR FU****G MINDS!!

I AGREE! IF YOU REPUBLICAN/TEAPUBLICANS DO NOT LIKE IT IN AMERICA MOVE! AMERICA IS “WE THE PEOPLE” NOT “WE THE RICH PEOPLE”!

Pablo said:
That’s interesting. They see 3 million patients a year, and do 330,000 abortions, accounting for 37% of their revenues. So, 10% of their clients get abortions in any given year, providing well over a third of their income, and they do all of that on 3% of their business.

Guess what, Joey? You’re being lied to, and sucking it up.

You are comparing percentages from completely different measures. And you cannot state factually that 10% of their customers get abortions. You’d need the actual raw data to determine such a figure. What you did is the equivalent of trying to find the mean between two different percentages from two different data sets by adding the percentages and dividing by two.

Yes, 3% of their services generate 37% of their revenues. That makes perfect sense, if you consider the fact that visiting PP for abortion costs exponentially more money than visiting them for STD testing or access to contraceptives.

Stephen Hogan said:
And you cannot state factually that 10% of their customers get abortions.

In fact, even assuming such a figure would be quite specious.

RowdyHoward said:
Who’s Joey? I’d think twice before just sucking up some figures from anywhere…especially from Pablo or any of his “sources”

Especially when they all seem to have a rightward spin!

The Tea Weasel® said:
This is truly an issue where men have no say, but control the discussion.

I could not agree more.

RowdyHoward said:
Very thoughtful statement, thank you for bringing more insight to the discussion.

Thank you very much, Rowdy Howard!

Planned Parenthood provided 11,383,900 procedures in 2009. This includes everything from vasectomies, pregnancy tests, and instances of pre-natal care to abortions. PP provided 332,278 abortions.

332,278 / 11,383,900 = 0.0291. Or, rounding up, 3%. And I’m using the link Pablo provided. This is very easy stuff.

felixw said:
I agree. It is amazing that Colbert has taken this tired shtick and been able to build a whole career out of it. But the Left has retreated from public debate and dialogue and has retired into the world of comedy, and has an insatiable appetite for ridicule. Instead of engaging in frank open discussion with conservative thinkers, they set up make-believe straw men like Colbert — so they can live in a fantasy world in which their infantile nanny state mentality and out-of-control spending habits are never challenged. This is the same reason why they are giving Trump so much coverage. They themselves live in a world of jokes, so they only want to deal with joke candidates.

What a rude awakening they will get in November of next year. Voters will be voting based on issues, not shtick.

Yeah because I see that backlog of left wingers that Beck and Pill Popper have daily on their shows to debate…..

Stephen Hogan said:
Thank you very much, Rowdy Howard!

you’re welcome sir!

Stephen Hogan said:
You are implying that he has control over the demographics of his audience, when he most certainly doesn’t. And that wasn’t simply a US flag suit; that was an Evel Knievel suit :)

Pass that tid bit onto the Liberals that criticize the TEA Party for the exact same thing…
Regarding the suit:
multiple costume changes; one of which was a stars and strips suit…
Less is more Stephen…

BlueBunny said:
CONSIDERING THE ‘RICH” JUST HAVE THEIR PRIVATE DOCTORS TAKE CARE OF THE “PROBLEM” ! OR SHIP THE PERSON OUT OF AMERICA TO TAKE CARE OF IT SO NO ONE WOULD KNOW !

is the “tax the rich” bumper sticker on your car in CAPS?

So do We the People subsidize abortions or not libs? 3% of proceedures vs 37% of cost?

Pablo said:
That’s interesting. They see 3 million patients a year, and do 330,000 abortions, accounting for 37% of their revenues. So, 10% of their clients get abortions in any given year, providing well over a third of their income, and they do all of that on 3% of their business.

Guess what, Joey? You’re being lied to, and sucking it up.

Pablo read the numbers the way he wants to. According to the info he referenced, PPH provided 11.4 million “services” for 3 million “customers” of which 660,000 were abortions (2 year period) which provided 37% of is “revenue”. The 3% number represents the percentage of the total services provided to PPH’s clients, including screenings/treatment for cancer and STD’s, counseling, contraceptives (for men and women) and other women’s health services. In other words 3% of the procedures PPH performs are abortions. There was no “lie”, it was simply statistics. Where the 37% percent of “revenue” figure came from, I have no idea.

skoorbekim said:
Pass that tid bit onto the Liberals that criticize the TEA Party for the exact same thing…
Regarding the suit:
multiple costume changes; one of which was a stars and strips suit…
Less is more Stephen…

Trust me, I’ve tried.

Less is more in many cases, but not when your humor is based on hyperbole and egoism, as Colbert’s is.

RowdyHoward said:
Who’s Joey? I’d think twice before just sucking up some figures from anywhere…especially from Pablo or any of his “sources”

If you were the observant sort, you’d note that all of those numbers are linked and/or footnoted. You can feel free to rebut any of them.

Barack Must Go said:
So do We the People subsidize abortions or not libs? 3% of proceedures vs 37% of cost?

I’d argue that we don’t, considering that the revenues collected from abortion services more than pays for the costs of such services.

Kined said:
Planned Parenthood provided 11,383,900 procedures in 2009. This includes everything from vasectomies, pregnancy tests, and instances of pre-natal care to abortions.

Also, referrals and handing out condoms. Hell, they took 20 million phone calls and only terminated 332,000 lives! And that only cost the US taxpayer $360 millions! Such a deal!

Stephen Hogan said:
but not when your humor is based on hyperbole and egoism, as Colbert’s is.

But it gets old when he is defending the powers that be…

I can’t for him to tee off on today’s POTUS speech///
…no, we’ll get another caffinated dose of “that crazy FOXN/GOP” shtick…

skoorbekim said:
But it gets old when he is defending the powers that be…

I can’t for him to tee off on today’s POTUS speech///
…no, we’ll get another caffinated dose of “that crazy FOXN/GOP” shtick…

I’d be surprised if he didn’t go after Obama’s speech. However, I’d also be surprised if he didn’t go after the reaction of the GOP and the media.

Pablo said:
If you were the observant sort, you’d note that all of those numbers are linked and/or footnoted. You can feel free to rebut any of them.

I’m skeptical of any article that seriously cites the Spain study that argues that contraceptive access does not reduce abortion. Of course access to contraceptives does not decrease abortion rates over the course of 10 years when, for 9 of the 10 years, it was illegal for women to get elective abortions.

They also cite studies done in the 1930′s, long before the invention of oral contraceptives. They might as well be trying to disprove neuroscience by relying on phrenology findings.

Also, your article relies on the same statistical error you made, namely trying to determine a mean from two different percentages from two different data sets with two different populations.

Pablo said:
If you were the observant sort, you’d note that all of those numbers are linked and/or footnoted. You can feel free to rebut any of them.

Hahaha linked and footnoted…always makes it accurate!!

Stephen Hogan said:
I’m skeptical of any article that seriously cites the Spain study that argues that contraceptive access does not reduce abortion. Of course access to contraceptives does not decrease abortion rates over the course of 10 years when, for 9 of the 10 years, it was illegal for women to get elective abortions.

They also cite studies done in the 1930’s, long before the invention of oral contraceptives. They might as well be trying to disprove neuroscience by relying on phrenology findings.

Also, your article relies on the same statistical error you made, namely trying to determine a mean from two different percentages from two different data sets with two different populations.

Zing!

Dead horse meet Stephen, Stephen… dead horse.

tatboy said:
Dead horse meet Stephen, Stephen… dead horse.

Clearly, the horse isn’t dead if Pablo and others are still trying to ride it.

RowdyHoward said:
Hahaha linked and footnoted…always makes it accurate!!

It certainly gives you an opportunity to rebut them, which I see you’re not doing. Hahaha.

Pablo said:
It certainly gives you an opportunity to rebut them, which I see you’re not doing. Hahaha.

That’s right! I won’t waste time trying to rebut half facts wrapped up in an agenda!

Pablo said:
It certainly gives you an opportunity to rebut them, which I see you’re not doing. Hahaha.

I do like your avatar picture better than the old one though!

Pablo said:
Also, referrals and handing out condoms. Hell, they took 20 million phone calls and only terminated 332,000 lives! And that only cost the US taxpayer $360 millions! Such a deal!

Or, you could look up the numbers yourself instead of trying to belittle legitimate points. The Hyde Amendment blocks funding for abortion. The money which went to PPH was used for “handing out condoms” (which prevent disease and pregnancy) and referring patients to places where they could be treated for diseases, yes, among other things. What it did NOT do is fund a single abortion.

Quite simply, you’re wrong on the facts, and your unblinking fanaticism in believing and spreading lies is irresponsible and unethical.

RowdyHoward said:
That’s right! I won’t waste time trying to rebut half facts wrapped up in an agenda!

Oh, but they’re not half facts. The problem is that you’re a simple chucklehead, and the only thing that you contribute to the discussion is your glee in seeing your words up thar on the interweb.

Kined said:
Or, you could look up the numbers yourself instead of trying to belittle legitimate points. The Hyde Amendment blocks funding for abortion. The money which went to PPH was used for “handing out condoms” (which prevent disease and pregnancy) and referring patients to places where they could be treated for diseases, yes, among other things. What it did NOT do is fund a single abortion.

Oh, but it gets the customers in the door. They’re doing big business. Abby Johnson can explain it to you, as someone who knows exactly how it works; a PP Clinic Director. They don’t need taxpayer money to carry on. The services they provide are covered by Medicaid, and widely available elsewhere. We, the US Taxpayers, don’t need them, and they don’t need our money. They’ll be fine and so will the poor, poor women.

tatboy said:
Dead horse meet Stephen, Stephen… dead horse.

Well…you could hope, eh? The story has better legs than you and can probably run further.

Pablo said:
Oh, but they’re not half facts. The problem is that you’re a simple chucklehead, and the only thing that you contribute to the discussion is your glee in seeing your words up thar on the interweb.

Oh, but it gets the customers in the door. They’re doing big business. Abby Johnson can explain it to you, as someone who knows exactly how it works; a PP Clinic Director. They don’t need taxpayer money to carry on. The services they provide are covered by Medicaid, and widely available elsewhere. We, the US Taxpayers, don’t need them, and they don’t need our money. They’ll be fine and so will the poor, poor women.

Haha, name calling. Pablo honey? ……come to Floooridaa

RowdyHoward said:
Hahaha linked and footnoted…always makes it accurate!!

RowdyHoward said:
Zing!

RowdyHoward said:
That’s right! I won’t waste time trying to rebut half facts wrapped up in an agenda!

RowdyHoward said:
I do like your avatar picture better than the old one though!

RowdyHoward said:
Haha, name calling. Pablo honey? ……come to Floooridaa

See? Absolutely nothing there. BTW, I usually do Florida in the winter. Maybe later.

felixw said:
This is the same reason why they are giving Trump so much coverage. They themselves live in a world of jokes, so they only want to deal with joke candidates.

That is no way to be talking about the next GOP presidential candidate who you will be extolling as a true champion of liberty, when that partisan time comes.

We just casually accept the fact that our elected officials will readily and casually distort the truth. I guess we get the government we deserve.

Pablo said:
See? Absolutely nothing there. BTW, I usually do Florida in the winter. Maybe later.

Pablo…we miss you..come, come to Florida

Pablo said:
Also, referrals and handing out condoms. Hell, they took 20 million phone calls and only terminated 332,000 lives! And that only cost the US taxpayer $360 millions! Such a deal!

And yet in the last five years close to 200K people (living people, as opposed to unborn fetuses), have died, slowly and in pain, for lack of health care. You guys are gun ho on bringing unwanted children into the world, but not so enthusiastic about taking care of them later after their jobs are exported to China.

valkyrie101 said:
And yet in the last five years close to 200K people (living people, as opposed to unborn fetuses), have died, slowly and in pain, for lack of health care.

Cite?

felixw said:
engaging in frank open discussion with conservative thinkers,

It’s amazing how any sane person could even string this 8 words together in the same sentence. Yours is by far the stupidest and most erroneous post of the day. Congratulations!

1) Engaging – Colbert and Stewart have invited many conservatives to their show. People like Beck and Kyl don’t have the guts to show up and have to justify their ridiculous comments.

2) Frank and open has never been operative within the conservative ranks, as evidenced by the incredible number of closet homosexuals who will scream about granting gays the right to serve our country or get married. Then, we find out about their true selves when they get caught in a scandal, or leave Washington and come out.

3) Discussion has never been a policy with the GOP. Best known recent examples:
McConnell: “Our number one goal is to make Obama a one term president” (nothing about working to improve the country or serve the people”
Boehner: (If budget cuts will hurt the economy and reduce jobs) “So be it.”
Alan West’s campaign manager during 2010 race: “If ballots don’t work, bullets will.”
Sharon Angle during 2010 Senate race: “People should explore Second Amendment remedies.”

4) “Conservative thinkers” – a wonderful oxymoron. Kyl made an impossibly arrogant and wildly inaccurate statement and then had an assistant make an even more ridiculous disclaimer. Colbert did a hilarious segment which should make any person with a normal sense of humor laugh, and yet you conservative trolls try to defend your guy. Just laugh at him for being an idiot and the whole thing is forgotten.

We laugh just as much when Stewart skewered Obama’s first campaign ad, or questioned his policy in Libya. Don’t you get it? When powerful people do inconsistent or stupid stuff and have the arrogance to take themselves seriously, they are acting like fools and are prime targets for satire.

Party affiliation has no meaning here. It’s just a question of whether a joke is funny.

Pablo said:
Also, referrals and handing out condoms. Hell, they took 20 million phone calls and only terminated 332,000 lives! And that only cost the US taxpayer $360 millions! Such a deal!

Note to Felix: sorry, you just fell to #2.

Wow, you post links to statistics, posters rebut your claims based on your links, and you still say stuff that makes Kyl look like Moses handing down the Ten Commandments.

Do you really not get the concept that Planned Parenthood doesn’t use government funds for abortions? Because if you subscribe to the Republican economic fantasy about how funding non-abortion services for the poor somehow gives an agency the ability to use their funds for abortions, then we need to shut down the world economy, and go back to the barter system.

Do you know where your dollars really go? Given the fact that every bill contains all manner of germs and traces of cocaine (http://www.livescience.com/2740-highest-traces-cocaine-bills.html), it is a certainty that those bills you used at the market or a restaurant or the mall have passed through the hands of someone who has either had an abortion, provided an abortion, or contributed support services for a hospital or institution where abortions take place.

How can someone on the one hand speak eloquently about nuclear reactor safety designs and then make such completely asinine statements about Planned Parenthood?

Do you really believe these talking points, or are you just paid to do it?

Pablo said:
Cite?

I love the way you rant like a lunatic, make all manner of unsubstantiated claims, and then ask people to cite their facts.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/17/us-usa-healthcare-deaths-idUSTRE58G6W520090917

Multiply by 5. Maybe you can figure this out without further help.

And please educate yourself on the GOP death panel in Arizona:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20027668-10391704.html

Pablo said:
Cite?

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/harvard-medical-study-links-lack-of-insurance-to-45000-u-s-deaths-a-year/

The senator just mixed up the numbers. I think he was trying to say that 97 out of 100 PREGNANT women who walk into a PP clinic are ‘provided’ with an abortion. Some ‘family planning’

Miljana Mandich said:
The senator just mixed up the numbers. I think he was trying to say that 97 out of 100 PREGNANT women who walk into a PP clinic are ‘provided’ with an abortion. Some ‘family planning’

Wow, two peas in a pod

Yeah,and proud of it. My daughter,when she was about 5,asked me “What is abortion?” After I explained it in the gentlest possible way,she cut right thru the crap and said:”So you could’ve killed me”. I said no,not me,not ever. She is now 26 and SO pro life,whithout ever discussing it again. She will certainly never seek “planned parenthood” from abortionists

BruinAlum77 said:
I love the way you rant like a lunatic, make all manner of unsubstantiated claims, and then ask people to cite their facts.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/17/us-usa-healthcare-deaths-idUSTRE58G6W520090917

Multiply by 5. Maybe you can figure this out without further help.

Why should I do that bit of math? Perhaps I’m missing something. Because your link says this:

An similar study in 1993 found those without insurance had a 25 percent greater risk of death, according to the Harvard group. The Institute of Medicine later used that data in its 2002 estimate showing about 18,000 people a year died because they lacked coverage.

I could multiply 18K by 5, but it wouldn’t equal 200K. And we have no idea what the circumstances of these deaths were. Also, we have approximately 2,423,712 deaths a year, mostly because a human life is finite. 18K is statistical noise. How many of that 18K sought treatment? How many of them failed to avail themselves of available programs, of which there are many?

Some people are dumb as dirt, and some people hate going to the doctor, even if they have one available. Some people are nuttier than squirrel turds, and are therefore destined to die badly. That figure is all but meaningless.

valkyrie101 said:
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/harvard-medical-study-links-lack-of-insurance-to-45000-u-s-deaths-a-year/

Sorry, correlation is not causation. That’s logic 101.

Study co-author Dr. Steffie Woolhandler said the findings show that without proper care, uninsured people are more likely to die from complications associated with preventable diseases such as diabetes and heart disease.

Ah, yes. PREVENTABLE diseases. Like diabetes and heart disease. Not curable diseases, but PREVENTABLE diseases. That isn’t a health care problem, that’s a LIFESTYLE problem.

Miljana Mandich says:
Planned parenthood spin: Pro life fine, (I support the same) but you’ve been lied to! Name one abortion “ever” preformed by planned parenthood! Do they direct women to services and counseling sure, but what funds were spent on abortion? If any of this were true, the teas would have paid to get the name of a person that received an abortion form planned parenthood! They can’t because it never happened! They would have sent that pimp clown in undercover to film them (I think they did) Now the name calling will begin because the teas have been caught in another lie! Aways the spin, lies and name calling!

Pablo said:
Yes, so let’s completely make some stuff up and pretend like a Republican said it! That’s teach ‘em!

No . . . that’s not teach ‘em, that’s make ‘em laugh.

Let me explain: Silly senator tells big lie on floor of senate. Senator’s office comes up with worst spin ever to explain big lie. Humorist mocks senator. Humorist invites others to mock silly senator. Humorist reads invited mockings on teevee.

It’s called “comedy.”

felixw said:
Talk about irony…the Left, who now give up on facts and hide behind comedy personae, gripe about the facts of the very politicians they refuse to debate. If Mr. Colbert wants to debate the abortion issue with Senator Kyl, he can give up his pathetic masquerade and invite the Senator on his show for an honest discussion. But you won’t see that happen. The Left now lives with one-liners and jokes in a permanently fact-free zone, and Mr. Colbert is a perfect example.

I must have missed the bit where comedians’ contracts require them to debate the subjects of their jokes.

It may seem to you that humor is all left-of-center folks have going for them, but that’s only because there’s so very little humor coming out of rightwing circles for comparison. Trust me, we’ve got the facts as well.

skoorbekim said:
If you want to see how stale and uncreative Colbert has become, look no farther than his “interview” with Laura Ingraham…
Two Dartmouth grads had the opportunity for an ideological discussion, but all Colbert kept loudly repeating is the one sentence in her book that mentioned “fried chicken” dinner…
Intellectually lazy…

Actually, that bit was funny because Ingraham knew she was there to be skewered and played along. It was as if she was saying “slag me all you will Stephen, you’re helping me sell books.”

Two pros near the top of their game.

Miljana Mandich said:
Yeah,and proud of it. My daughter,when she was about 5,asked me “What is abortion?” After I explained it in the gentlest possible way,she cut right thru the crap and said:”So you could’ve killed me”. I said no,not me,not ever. She is now 26 and SO pro life,whithout ever discussing it again. She will certainly never seek “planned parenthood” from abortionists

Was there a point to this twee little vingette?

Pablo said:
Ah, yes. PREVENTABLE diseases. Like diabetes and heart disease. Not curable diseases, but PREVENTABLE diseases. That isn’t a health care problem, that’s a LIFESTYLE problem.

And because they’re preventable (sort of), then society bears no cost when they afflict people? Because the sufferers are less perfect than you and become ill, it makes sense to ignore them? I guess you haven’t been paying attention (being so admirable and all) but a major component of healtcare is eduction and support for preventive medicine precisely to reduce the incidence and severity of “preventable” diseases.

This is all linked together and trying to portray it in black and white leads to bad policy.

mediadoubt said:
And because they’re preventable (sort of), then society bears no cost when they afflict people?

My problems are not your problems, and yours are not mine, Comrade.

Because the sufferers are less perfect than you and become ill, it makes sense to ignore them?

No, it makes sense to assume that the product of all labor belongs to the government so that it can lovingly take care of my neighbors and save me the trouble, Comrade. Is good, da?

I guess you haven’t been paying attention (being so admirable and all) but a major component of healtcare is eduction and support for preventive medicine precisely to reduce the incidence and severity of “preventable” diseases.

Well, there’s one healthcare professional that taught me a whole lot of stuff, like that you’re asking for trouble if you smoke, eat too much and screw anything with a pulse. And that advice didn’t cost me a dime, what with her being my mother and all. Common sense is not all that common, is it, Comrade?

This is all linked together and trying to portray it in black and white leads to bad policy.

No, linking it all together leads to bad policy. Slavery, ultimately. But Communism will work this time, right Comrade?

mediadoubt said:
I must have missed the bit where comedians’ contracts require them to debate the subjects of their jokes.

You must have also missed the part where comedy became news. It’s the strangest thing, but there it is.

timcajun said:
Name one abortion “ever” preformed by planned parenthood!

I could give you half a dozen, but that would be uncouth. They did 332,278 of them last in 2009, though.

If any of this were true, the teas would have paid to get the name of a person that received an abortion form planned parenthood!

HIPPA is not a large, semi-aquatic mammal, genius. Even Earl Grey knows that.

Pablo says:
HIPPA is not a large, semi-aquatic mammal, genius. Even Earl Grey knows that.
………………………………………………..
Pablo, even an mammal moron such as yourself would understand the legal reqirements, would not allow the names to be released, however the teas have stolen files and copied the same. What was clear is the fact not one “person” came forward from having an abortion by planned parenthood, because they didn’t! Your fake numbers come from a tea site, which by nature means “not fact based”! Again proven, not one!