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Was Palin Gay-Baiting When She Referred To VF Writer As “Impotent And Limp”?

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Sarah Palin is apparently unhappy with Michael Joseph Gross, the author of the much-talked-about Vanity Fair piece.  But when she appeared to refer to him as “impotent and limp and gutless” in an interview on Sean Hannity’s radio show, was she also doing a little gay-baiting?

That’s the theory at the gay online magazine The Advocate. The editors at Advocate.com argued the “emasculating” terms used by Palin were “code words” to slam the openly gay Gross, who is an Advocate contributor.

Palin didn’t mention Gross by name while talking Thursday on Sean Hannity’s WABC radio show, but she seemed to be referring to the article — and pointedly used emasculating words that have long been used as euphemisms for homosexuality — when she called reporters who publish “rumors” about her “impotent,” “limp,” and “gutless.”

I’ve heard a lot of “code words” questioning the masculinity of gay men, but “limp” and “impotent” were new ones to me. The folks at the gay Republican group GOPoud seem to agree, issuing a statement to Joe Jervis at JoeMyGod taking-on the Advocate.

It is The Advocate, not Sarah Palin, who is guilty of ‘gay-baiting.’ I don’t think most people associate the words ‘impotent,’ ‘limp,’ or ‘gutless’ with being gay – I know I certainly don’t. If the folks at The Advocate think these words are euphemisms for being gay or lesbian then I think that speaks volumes about their own internalized homophobia. Governor Palin was absolutely right to use the words she chose to describe the pathetic hatchet job penned by Mr. Gross.

GOProud, which is hosting Ann Coulter for a “Homocon” event in New York City, definitely knows how to get some attention and the Advocate appears to be a perfect foil. As Chris Geidner of the Washington, D.C.-based LGBT magazine MetroWeekly says, “[r]egardless of who’s right, score one for GOProud for finding a way to get people talking on a Friday before a long weekend about words and what they mean.”

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  • More Liberty

    Just another hit piece. I don’t care for Palin but damn you liberals have some serious issues with her. Your hate and derangement is over bearing.

  • Olby Sucks

    PDS is really boring…

  • bamman

    Next head line:

    GOProud Pwnes Advocate.

  • Hugo Daun

    She must have been thinking about Rush.

  • TfT

    Just about every web site I have visited has panned Gross and the VF article, except meidaite where Glynnis featured it, endorsed it, and never provided any follow-up to the trashing of Gross and VF over this piece of crap.

    And now, mediaite is going after Palin again, rather than providing it’s readers with the folks (left and right) who are panning Gross and the VF article.

    It’s just too funny, it’s just too stupid, and it’s just too embarrassing.

    Where the heck is Dan to bring some sanity back here…..I guess he is working with MSBNC and attempting to align mediaite a little bit more with the meltdown network.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    1 – I didn’t take it as Gay baiting and I have pretty good Gaydar.

    1 – Gays are not limp, they enjoy sex more than straights do imo.

    3 – If Gross can dish it he should be able to take it and doesn’t need anyone running defense for him.

    4 – The whole thing is ridiculous.

  • Constantly

    i hear the serta sheep are claiming “pillow-biter” is a thinly veiled slight towards them

  • Permatiltx

    Ugh! Don’t want to say this, but…seriously? When I think limp, impotent, and gutless, gay is not the first thing I think of. I do perform stand up, so I know a thing or two about slurs, and well, limp-wrist is a gay slur, the word limp usually means inability to get a boner (I think that’s the Oxford Dictionary Definition. Webster defines it as “lacking wood.”) I’m starting to believe in the PDS thing. Seriously, it’s taking away from any issues.

  • Permatiltx

    Constantly said:
    i hear the serta sheep are claiming “pillow-biter” is a thinly veiled slight towards them

    Enough with the sheep-baiting!

  • philipjames

    I think Sarah hit the nail on the head, so to speak. Look, Gross must be limp and impotent to have to use Shannyn Moore, the sewer dwelling rat that was the source of most of his bull crap on Sarah Palin.

  • Constantly

    wait, theres a fag named gross? lololololol

  • Constantly

    OMG greg jarrett just said in anticipation of earl the “fairies have stopped running”! the advocate will be going nuts soon! what does he have against gay joggers?

  • Azarkhan

    First Mediaite try’s to trash Sarah Palin by promoting a VF story that was full of lies. That having failed, now Mediaite try’s to trash her by accusing her of “gay-baiting”. LOL.

    BTW, if anybody would know whether or not gay men are limp, it would certainly be the fine men at the Advocate.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Constantly said:
    OMG greg jarrett just said in anticipation of earl the “fairies have stopped running”! the advocate will be going nuts soon! what does he have against gay joggers?

    And how come they don’t name Hurricanes after gay guys? A Hurricane Todd or a Hurricane Bruce?

    IT’S HOMOPHOBIC I TELLS YA!!!

  • SpineCrusher

    damn that woman’s F-ugly!

  • Azarkhan

    TfT said:
    Just about every web site I have visited has panned Gross and the VF article, except meidaite where Glynnis featured it, endorsed it, and never provided any follow-up to the trashing of Gross and VF over this piece of crap.

    If the Mediaite staff had any integrity, they would post an apology. But since they don’t, they won’t.

  • Ted-

    TfT said:
    Just about every web site I have visited has panned Gross and the VF article, except meidaite where Glynnis featured it, endorsed it, and never provided any follow-up to the trashing of Gross and VF over this piece of crap.

    And now, mediaite is going after Palin again, rather than providing it’s readers with the folks (left and right) who are panning Gross and the VF article.

    It’s just too funny, it’s just too stupid, and it’s just too embarrassing.

    Where the heck is Dan to bring some sanity back here…..I guess he is working with MSBNC and attempting to align mediaite a little bit more with the meltdown network.

    Really? Which sites?

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    Holy crap, is this pathetic. This falls in line with every other lame attempt by leftists to stifle any kind of discourse coming from anyone they diagree with in the public forum. Maybe The Advocate can provide us with a list of other words we should be aware of that they can use to accuse others of gay bashing. Nah, they won’t do that, they need the element of surprise to get their charge of homophobia across the networks.

  • Azarkhan

    Christine Pelosi-

    Miller Time in Alaska means Palin Time in Iowa: a boost to Palin’s 2012 prospects for reasons well understood by presidents Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush.

    Just as President Carter campaigned for congressional candidates in the early 70s and recruited them to his Peanut Brigade in 1976, Sarah Palin has used her star power across multiple platforms to energize the base and help candidates who in turn might help her in a presidential run. And just as President Bush ran with a 2004 get out the vote campaign that included conservative turnout for ballot initiatives banning gay marriage in several key states such as Ohio, the Miller campaign got a huge boost from the Palin endorsement and the anti-abortion measure on the Alaska ballot. Indeed, it was pro-choice advocates fighting the Alaska ballot measure who told me that Miller could win one week before the election because they knew the issue drew forth voters disinclined to support the pro-choice Murkowski. The lessons here for 2010 and 2010 are twofold: one, Palin still has star power and she’s not afraid to use it; two, read the entire ballot before prognosticating on candidate success or failure.

  • SpineCrusher

    SpineCrusher said:
    damn that woman’s F-ugly!

    Which is why she would be so familair with the term “limp”

  • AngelPeters

    That will sell magazines. If there is anything Palin is good at and good for, is ratings and money. It’s her strong point.

  • TfT

    More and more facts are coming out to completely discredit and dismantle the VF hit piece. Not good for Gross, not good for VF. Of course, if sites like mediaite and Glynnis had any cajones, they would start reporting on the proven falsifications put forth in the article.

    But I think asking mediaite and Glynnis to report on this is a lost cause. The refutations have been published all over the place, even liberal bloggers are attacking VF and Gross.

    What a shallow place this has become; even though I enjoy the board, there are days when I shake my head in disgust that glynnis, tommy, colby, et al, ignore the facts that refute the trash they publish.

    Just another embarrassment for Dan; oh well. So it goes.

  • Ted-

    TfT said:
    More and more facts are coming out to completely discredit and dismantle the VF hit piece. Not good for Gross, not good for VF. Of course, if sites like mediaite and Glynnis had any cajones, they would start reporting on the proven falsifications put forth in the article.

    But I think asking mediaite and Glynnis to report on this is a lost cause. The refutations have been published all over the place, even liberal bloggers are attacking VF and Gross.

    What a shallow place this has become; even though I enjoy the board, there are days when I shake my head in disgust that glynnis, tommy, colby, et al, ignore the facts that refute the trash they publish.

    Just another embarrassment for Dan; oh well. So it goes.

    Care to share any of those “facts?” Include sources please.

  • Azarkhan

    The leftist feminists who rose to Sarah Palin’s defense against the Vanity Fair hit piece did so because they saw it as a misogynistic attack on all women. Apparently Sarah Palin held a similar opinion. So she decided to eviscerate with extreme prejudice the man who wrote the article.

    Sarah Palin and the leftist feminists both wanted the same thing: to cut the nuts off that bastard. Sarah Palin did just that, and I suspect that in their heart of hearts, many leftist feminists had a smile today.

  • TfT

    I shared some of them yesterday, on Glynnis’s hit piece on Palin. Not gonna share them again. You can look it up as easily as I can, plus you find your own sources, maybe you will believe them. I know, given your history of posting here, you don’t believe sources posted by known conservatives anyway.

    So, just go look around the web.

    I still have hope that Dan is gonna wake up and smell the coffee, and the Glynnis will realize she needs to do a follow-up story on the hit piece. She is looking more and more shallow by ignoring the falsifications and allowing herself to be used and abused by the likes of Gross.

    Will Glynnis woman up?

  • SpineCrusher

    Azarkhan said:
    The leftist feminists who rose to Sarah Palin’s defense against the Vanity Fair hit piece did so because they saw it as a misogynistic attack on all women. Apparently Sarah Palin held a similar opinion. So she decided to eviscerate with extreme prejudice the man who wrote the article. Sarah Palin and the leftist feminists both wanted the same thing: to cut the nuts off that bastard. Sarah Palin did just that, and I suspect that in their heart of hearts, many leftist feminists had a smile today.

    You are one of the last people on this planet to speak on the behalf of “leftist feminists”

    FAIL!

  • Azarkhan

    TfT said:
    You can look it up as easily as I can

    I read many of them yesterday. The feminists were completely honest. They said that while they hated having to defend Sarah Palin, the attack was so nasty towards all women, they got pissed off.

  • Jelperman

    Caribou Barbie’s Freudian slip is showing. She used the words impotent and limp twice in the same sentence. I guess Todd Palin hasn’t been able to rise to the occasion lately.

    Maybe he can borrow some bootleg boner pills from Rush Limbaugh.

  • Azarkhan

    SpineCrusher said:
    You are one of the last people on this planet to speak on the behalf of “leftist feminists”
    FAIL!

    Gross’ article, however, amounts to very little but “Sarah Palin is the worst because she’s in politics…and is A WOMAN.”
    Melissa McEwan

    http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2010/09/this-is-so-worst-thing-youre-going-to.html

  • Azarkhan

    LOL

  • Ted-

    TfT said:
    I shared some of them yesterday, on Glynnis’s hit piece on Palin. Not gonna share them again. You can look it up as easily as I can, plus you find your own sources, maybe you will believe them. I know, given your history of posting here, you don’t believe sources posted by known conservatives anyway.

    So, just go look around the web.

    I still have hope that Dan is gonna wake up and smell the coffee, and the Glynnis will realize she needs to do a follow-up story on the hit piece. She is looking more and more shallow by ignoring the falsifications and allowing herself to be used and abused by the likes of Gross.

    Will Glynnis woman up?

    That’s what I thought. You, like Palin are full of shit and just make it up as you go. Now I understand why you suck up to her. I gave you the opportunity to lay out your case but like most of you nit-it tea-baggers you wouldn’t know a fact from your asshole. You’re pathetic and by the way, Palin is a brain stem; I’m certain you can relate to that.

    PS – More will be coming out about your love interest. You won’t like it.

  • felixw

    Hey, it could have been worse. She could have said that the Vanity Fair author had a temper and was a poor tipper.

  • TfT

    Hey Ted….you are one poor, ignorant poster.

    As I said, go look the stuff up for yourself.

    Glynnis didn’t woman up; too bad. I had thought better of her. Perhaps she is on vacay for the long weekend; perhaps she chooses to ignore all the lefties who are trashing Gross and VF; perhaps she is embarrassed (nah, that would never happen).

    Matters not to me what you think Ted.

  • Ted-

    TfT said:
    Hey Ted….you are one poor, ignorant poster.

    As I said, go look the stuff up for yourself.

    Glynnis didn’t woman up; too bad. I had thought better of her. Perhaps she is on vacay for the long weekend; perhaps she chooses to ignore all the lefties who are trashing Gross and VF; perhaps she is embarrassed (nah, that would never happen).

    Matters not to me what you think Ted.

    Here’s what this asshole (Palin) had to say about Gross:

    “Those who are impotent and limp and gutless and they go on their anonymous — sources that are anonymous — and impotent, limp and gutless reporters take anonymous sources and cite them as being factual references,” Palin continued. “It just slays me because it’s so absolutely clear what the state of yellow journalism is today that they would take these anonymous sources as fact.”

    Is this a half-term Gov or some petulant 12 year old. Anonymous sources that are… anonymous. Got it? Just brilliant, and idiots like you think she’s a genius. You’ve got nothing as usual.

  • jk76

    i didn’t know Gross was gay, didn’t care still don’t, are we at the point where we hyphenate Gay-American yet?

    it’s a weird response, heard it yesterday, still don’t get it. Gutless ok, but the other? maybe it’s Alaska terms, maybe he’s limp or impotent because he’s insecure and attacks her? maybe she didn’t know he’s a butt pirate.

    it’s interesting but no one is asking her, as usual people just make comments on what people say instead of inquiring with the one who spoke. opinions on opinions to opine on more opinions

  • murf

    Gross is like most liberal men , sensitive , emasculated , insecure , misogynists.. bitches.

  • Ted-

    murf said:
    Gross is like most liberal men , sensitive , emasculated , insecure , misogynists.. bitches.

    Talk about emasculated; if the idiot (Palin) told your ass to jump, you’d jump. You’d better check your balls murf; I think you’d find they are missing in action. Stupid candy ass.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    “I don’t know how she ever gets pregnant!”

    —Todd Palin

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Levi Johnston, the father of Sarah Palin’s grandchild and Wasilla mayor hopeful, has just a 6 percent favorability rating in the state, with only 14 percent of the presumably anti-Palin Democrats having a favorable view. Seventy two percent of Alaskans have an unfavorable view of Johnston. Sarah Palin polls better, but isn’t going to win a popularity contest any time soon—just 37 percent of Alaskans have a favorable view of her, while 55 percent have an unfavorable view. Also discovered in the poll: 11 percent of Alaskans say they can see Russia from their houses.

  • murf

    Ted , your confusing me with an Obama voter .

    PS. Has he parted the waters yet ?

  • Ted-

    murf said:
    Ted , your confusing me with an Obama voter .

    PS. Has he parted the waters yet ?

    You’re just confused and a rube…and a follower as you always will be. Minus the balls.

    By the way, before you take a shit, do you get permission first?

  • murf

    Ted- said:
    You’re just confused and a rube…and a follower as you always will be. Minus the balls.

    </blockquot

    " Yes we can ! " Yes we can !" cmon Ted chant it with me .. " Yes we can ! " " Yes we can ! "

  • Ted-

    murf said:

    Did I say minus the balls?

  • SpineCrusher

    murf said:
    Ted , your confusing me with an Obama voter . PS. Has he parted the waters yet ?

    He sure as hell parted McSame and Palin…BOOOYAH!

  • murf

    Ted : When I say ” Fired up ” ; You say ” Ready to go ! ”

    Fired up !

  • Ted-

    murf said:
    Ted : When I say ” Fired up ” ; You say ” Ready to go ! ”

    Fired up !

    I think murf that when Palin says “ready to go” or “fired up” or some other dumb shit, you become orgasmic, yes?

  • Ted-

    SpineCrusher said:
    He sure as hell parted McSame and Palin…BOOOYAH!

    You’ve gotta cut murf a little slack; he’s a ball-less imbecile.

  • murf
  • Azarkhan
  • Ted-
  • CosmosDan

    Constantly said:
    i hear the serta sheep are claiming “pillow-biter” is a thinly veiled slight towards them

    okay. I grudgingly admit that was pretty funny.

    I agree the accusation of gay baiting is ridiculous. He hit her. She hit back. Seems fair.

  • CosmosDan

    murf said:
    Gross is like most liberal men , sensitive , emasculated , insecure , misogynists.. bitches.

    well, at least he’s openly gay, unlike most republicans.

    {these are the jokes kids}

  • BatBoy

    I saw Michael Gross interviewed…a true scumbag.

    He could probably make it here at Mediatite as an understudy of Tommy…he too likes to run loose with the facts.

  • CosmosDan

    Jelperman said:
    Caribou Barbie’s Freudian slip is showing. She used the words impotent and limp twice in the same sentence. I guess Todd Palin hasn’t been able to rise to the occasion lately.

    Maybe he can borrow some bootleg boner pills from Rush Limbaugh.

    okay that’s pretty funny too.

  • Ted-

    BatBoy said:
    I saw Michael Gross interviewed…a true scumbag.

    He could probably make it here at Mediatite as an understudy of Tommy…he too likes to run loose with the facts.

    You are of course, the scum-bag and an idiot along with Palin who pulls “facts” out of her smelly ass. Buffoon.

  • CosmosDan

    Permatiltx said:
    Enough with the sheep-baiting!

    also funny. Best comedy thread on Mediate.

  • murf

    Fired up !

  • Ted-

    murf said:
    Fired up !

    Brilliant.

  • notsofast

    No, she was just referring to libs in general.

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:
    First Mediaite try’s to trash Sarah Palin by promoting a VF story that was full of lies. That having failed, now Mediaite try’s to trash her by accusing her of “gay-baiting”. LOL.

    BTW, if anybody would know whether or not gay men are limp, it would certainly be the fine men at the Advocate.

    Mediate didn’t say they agreed with the VF article. They just reported about it. They also didn’t accuse her of gay baiting. They reported someone else did, and the author of this article doesn’t seem to agree.

  • notsofast

    That’s the theory at the gay online magazine The Advocate. The editors at Advocate.com argued the “emasculating” terms used by Palin were “code words” to slam the openly gay Gross, who is an Advocate contributor.”

    Ahhhhhhhh, yes, the left’s 50,000 page book of “code words.”

    “community organizer” – black person

    “that one” – black person

    “poor” – black person

    “uninsured”- black person

    “unemployed”- black person

    “house” – black person

    “automobile” – black person

    “Wednesday” – black person

    “desk” – black person

  • notsofast

    Too funny.

    I wonder if Jesse is screaming “No justice, no peace.”

    Payne: The irony of Jesse Jackson’s stripped SUV
    Henry Payne / The Michigan View.com

    Following the embarrassing news that Mayor Dave Bing’s GMC Yukon was hijacked by criminals this week, Detroit’s Channel 7 reports that the Reverend’s Caddy Escalade SUV was stolen and stripped of its wheels while he was in town last weekend with the UAW’s militant President Bob King leading the “Jobs, Justice, and Peace” march promoting government-funded green jobs.

    Read that again: Jackson’s Caddy SUV was stripped while he was in town promoting green jobs.

  • Azarkhan

    CosmosDan said:
    Mediate didn’t say they agreed with the VF article.

    Everyone knows the leftist game at Mediaite.

  • juan

    Way to GO, Sarah!

    Knock ‘em to their KNEES!

  • Greg

    Gross finds that people are afraid to criticize the North Star because of her propensity to attack… Reports it… Is attacked… Which is further proof of his weighty anecdotal evidence… More interesting is the story of her media manipulation and the well shaded rise and decline of her funding sources… Sarah’s proclivities will only become more public as her attempts to conceal continue… I enjoy the absurdity of her path…

  • alamo2

    murf said:
    Gross is like most liberal men , sensitive , emasculated , insecure , misogynists.. bitches.

    I’ll put my military record up agains yours anytime, andy day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    How typical, Progressive homosexuals playing the victim. Oh you poor, poor people! In the words of Wolf Blitzer, they’re so poor, so gay.

  • alamo2

    Tony Westover said:
    How typical, Progressive homosexuals playing the victim. Oh you poor, poor people! In the words of Wolf Blitzer, they’re so poor, so gay.

    I’m not sure if you are being sarcastic, or plain nasty. In any event, you border on ugly bigotry.

  • Azarkhan

    Greg said:
    Which is further proof of his weighty anecdotal evidence

    It’s so heavy it has obviously flattened your brain.

    Another refudiation, this one by Dr. Gina Loudon, who was at an event referenced in the article and met the flaccid Mr. Gross.

    http://bigjournalism.com/gloudon/2010/09/03/the-truth-about-that-dishonest-vanity-fair-palin-story-from-one-who-was-there/

  • Azarkhan
  • Greg

    Azarkhan said:
    It’s so heavy it has obviously flattened your brain.

    Another refudiation, this one by Dr. Gina Loudon, who was at an event referenced in the article and met the flaccid Mr. Gross.

    http://bigjournalism.com/gloudon/2010/09/03/the-truth-about-that-dishonest-vanity-fair-palin-story-from-one-who-was-there/

    As is the usual for “Big Journalism”, she begins with a list of clear juvenile insults… Follows with a list of Lamentations and teeth gnashing… After establishing her own hatreds and sense of deep victimization… Proceeds to discount all other possible explanations on the strength of her own admittedly biased understanding… My problem with Breitbart and his columnists is that they are overtly emotional and illogical… Their reasoning is the hard pressed servant of the will… To paraphrase another… Much rather hear what the coffee shop owner has to say than the professional partisan…

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:
    Everyone knows the leftist game at Mediaite.

    Do they? Even if that’s true you were still mistaken in making the claims you made. Read the article again. The author agrees the accusation of gay baiting is baseless. You claimed they accused her of gay baiting. You could be big enough to admit a mistake.

  • CosmosDan

    juan said:
    Way to GO, Sarah!

    Knock ‘em to their KNEES!

    Wait! Isn’t that where they want to be? BA da bing!

  • RazorsEdge

    Just another example of a blogger who uses the ‘title’ of columnist or journalist. Sensationalism for the perceived purpose to get clicks, noticed or forward an agenda.

    If it were fact, then great. Write it, source it, decry it! Until then it’s just as bad an attempt/tactic that some bloggers blame politicians for. And in this example Palin for.

  • OxyCon

    “Impotent and limp and gutless” pretty much describes 99% of all male far-left bloggers, does it not?

    No gay slur intended.

  • Azarkhan

    Azarkhan said:
    CosmosDan said:
    Mediate didn’t say they agreed with the VF article.
    Everyone knows the leftist game at Mediaite.

    CosmosDan said:
    You claimed they accused her of gay baiting.

    I said Mediaite is leftist. Mediaite’s game is to monitor and criticize Fox News, conservatives, Republicans, and Sarah Palin.

    Dedicated to all the gay boys out there-hot tramps, I love you so

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIIGrkL9foQ

  • BruceGoose

    Look for this article in the next edition of Duh Aficionado magazine:

    Was Mediaite Trying To Create Fake Controversy For Page Views When They Asked If Sarah Palin Was Gay-Baiting?

  • murf

    alamo2 said:
    I’ll put my military record up agains yours anytime, andy day.

    Cool.

    Good news : College Football Kicks off tomm./today, sick of politics !

    : ^ )

  • the real john t

    Azarkhan said:
    I said Mediaite is leftist. Mediaite’s game is to monitor and criticize Fox News, conservatives, Republicans, and Sarah Palin.

    If you don’t like it go find another blog. You know, the same way you RWers scream about if you don’t like Fox then change the channel. You RWers are all a bunch of hypocrites.

  • the real john t

    murf said:
    Good news : College Football Kicks off tomm./today, sick of politics !

    It kicked off last night. Ohio State beat Marshall and Miami beat Florida A&M.

  • murf

    T- Yeah , I know . You an OSU fan ?

  • the real john t

    murf said:
    You an OSU fan ?

    You’re darn right.

  • murf

    T-Haha.. We’ll be joining you next year ( Nebraska Cornhuskers )

    :^ )

  • the real john t

    murf said:
    T-Haha.. We’ll be joining you next year ( Nebraska Cornhuskers )

    Yeah, did you see where they’re going to divide the Big 10 into 2 separate confrences? Next week ought to be a hell of a game, OSU plays Miami.

  • murf

    T- Yeah separated OSU & Michigan into different brackets. Plus , added a championship Big Ten Championship game . Can’t take Miami lightly they looked pretty good Thursday . As long as Pyror stays focused you could run the table for sure this year .

  • the real john t

    murf said:
    T- Yeah separated OSU & Michigan into different brackets.

    But their still going to play Michigan the final game.

  • murf

    T- Big Red is coming , and were going to knock the Buckeyes off their throne and claim that Big Ten title for years to come .

    : ^ )

  • Azarkhan

    Greg said:
    My problem with Breitbart and his columnists is

    that they just too damn accurate. Mr. Gross has issued a “correction”:

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — A writer for Vanity Fair has acknowledged a case of mistaken identity in an unflattering article about Sarah Palin in the magazine’s October issue.

    In the article, Michael Joseph Gross describes Palin’s youngest son, Trig, being pushed in a stroller before the start of a May rally in the Kansas City suburb of Independence. But the boy in the stroller was not Trig — but another child with Down syndrome.

    The mother of the child, conservative activist Gina Loudon, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch she thought Gross might have been confused during the rally and that she tried to explain she was the boy’s mother, not Palin. She says he “just ignored facts.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h3XJ6YqzSDnv0ILbj-AAS124AELAD9I0OKV80

  • the real john t

    murf said:
    T- Big Red is coming , and were going to knock the Buckeyes off their throne and claim that Big Ten title for years to come .

    Yeah, I read you. What have you done in the last 10yrs?

  • The Realer John T

    the real john t said:
    You’re darn right I love field hockey.

  • murf

    T – We haven’t done much past 10 years besides get our ass kicked in the Rose Bowl against Miami .. Oklahoma and Texas have been the power houses . We need to get back to where we were in the 90′s.

  • the real john t

    murf said:
    T – We haven’t done much past 10 years besides get our ass kicked in the Rose Bowl against Miami

    Well I welcome them into the Big Ten, of course now it’s the big 12. Maybe people will quit talking about how the SEC is the toughest conference in college football.

  • murf

    T- Haha. This is true . Should be fun .

  • the real john t

    murf said:
    This is true . Should be fun .

    Maybe Oklahoma should get in too.

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:
    that they just too damn accurate. Mr. Gross has issued a “correction”:

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — A writer for Vanity Fair has acknowledged a case of mistaken identity in an unflattering article about Sarah Palin in the magazine’s October issue.

    In the article, Michael Joseph Gross describes Palin’s youngest son, Trig, being pushed in a stroller before the start of a May rally in the Kansas City suburb of Independence. But the boy in the stroller was not Trig — but another child with Down syndrome.

    The mother of the child, conservative activist Gina Loudon, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch she thought Gross might have been confused during the rally and that she tried to explain she was the boy’s mother, not Palin. She says he “just ignored facts.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h3XJ6YqzSDnv0ILbj-AAS124AELAD9I0OKV80

    THat;s huge. The next thing ya know he’ll be saying he held Trig when he didn’t really hold him at all.

  • Michael_T

    I doubt Sarah (along with many others) had any idea the journalist was gay.

    But I have little doubt about the intent of the person who suggested those adjectives … it was obviously intended to attempt to take shots at the writer.

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:
    I said Mediaite is leftist. Mediaite’s game is to monitor and criticize Fox News, conservatives, Republicans, and Sarah Palin.

    YOU very specifically said Mediate accused Palin of Gay Baiting
    here are YOUR words.

    First Mediaite try’s to trash Sarah Palin by promoting a VF story that was full of lies. That having failed, now Mediaite try’s to trash her by accusing her of “gay-baiting”. LOL.

    That’s incorrect, Mediate did not accuse her. Since you seem concerned about accuracy you might want to admit your mistake and apologize. It’s a minor thing. Give it a shot.

  • sarainitaly

    First of all, who the hello is Gross? They are assuming a lot by thinking Palin knows who he is, much less that he is gay. And secondly, never, ever have I heard those terms being used to refer to gay men. Never. And since when is impotence a problem for only gay men?

    Sounds to me like the editor from the Advocate that wrote that article is feeling a little paranoid and insecure. Perhaps he is having some problems in the bedroom, and took it personally….

    And right on GOProud!!
    (Not GOPoud)

    I am watching his interview on Morning Joe, and he doesn’t *scream* gay, so it isn’t like Palin would know just from seeing his interview what his sexual orientation is. But he does come off like an impotent wussy. And an idiot. “people are scared of her” Spare me!

    He is a hack who went for an easy target in order to get his 15 minutes. And the Advocate is trying to jump on his limp bandwagon.

  • sarainitaly

    Ted- said:
    Care to share any of those “facts?” Include sources please.

    I’ll provide a few, because I know you won’t bother to look them up yourself.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0910/Feminists_for_Palin.html?showall

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0910/Saying_anything_about_Palin_contd.html

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/245538/palins-new-defenders-liberal-feminists-katrina-trinko

    http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2010/09/this-is-so-worst-thing-youre-going-to.html

    Even CNN’s Peter Hamby is Effectively Calling the Vanity Fair Hit Piece a Lie

    * Even Pro-Abortion Far-Left Feminists Are Defending Governor Palin Against the Vanity Fair Hit Piece

    * Democrat Party Hack Ravi Somaiya Admits He Lied and Governor Palin is Now Immune from the Left

    * Even Shannyn Moore’s Extremist Friends Are Calling the Vanity Fair Piece “Slanderous”

    * Even Liberals Ben Smith, Dave Weigel, and Kirsten Powers Defend Palin and Cast Doubt on Vanity Fair Hit Piece

    * Even the Liberal Amanda Coyne from the Liberal Alaska Dispatch Finds a Lie in the Vanity Fair Hit Piece
    http://www.motivationtruth.com/2010/09/vanity-fairs-gross-hit-piece-on-gov.html

  • TfT

    VF admits the errors (or at least one of them) in the Gross hit piece on Palin. But hey, mediaite still hasn’t bothered to update the story and still endorses the hit piece on Palin. Fer shame, but oh so typical:

    Vanity Fair reporter admits error in Palin article

    By HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH (AP) – 10 hours ago

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A writer for Vanity Fair has acknowledged a case of mistaken identity in an unflattering article about Sarah Palin in the magazine’s October issue.

    Reporter Michael Joseph Gross describes Palin’s youngest son, Trig, being pushed in a stroller by his older sister, Piper, before a rally in May in the Kansas City suburb of Independence.

    “When the girl, Piper Palin, turns around, she sees her parents thronged by admirers, and the crowd rolling toward her and the baby, her brother Trig, born with Down syndrome in 2008,” according to the article. “Sarah Palin and her husband, Todd, bend down and give a moment to the children; a woman, perhaps a nanny, whisks the boy away; and Todd hands Sarah her speech and walks her to the stage.”

    Later, Gross describes Piper joining her mother on the stage to “allow Palin to make a public display of maternal affection.”

    The problem, which was first reported by the website Politico, was that the boy the reporter described was another child with Down syndrome.

    The mother of that child, conservative activist Gina Loudon, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that she told Gross during the rally that the child in the stroller was her son, not Palin’s. She said she tried to make it clear because the two children look a lot alike.

    “I told him that. And he ignored it,” Loudon said. “It’s not even like he didn’t fact check — he just ignored facts.”

    Gross said in a written statement sent to The Associated Press that he was mistaken.

    “Trig was with his mother the next day in Wichita (Kan.), but the child in Independence was someone else, and I regret the error,” he said.

    Palin was quick to call the article “yellow journalism” in a tweet. The article describes everything from stingy tips given to hotel staff to heated fights between Palin and her husband.

    Doug McMarlin, a spokesman for Palin’s political action committee, said in a written statement Friday that the article was a “collection of lies.”

    “As the message continues to succeed, the messenger will continue to be attacked by yellow journalists seeking to increase sales,” McMarlin said. “Our focus remains on the historic 2010 election and the brave Americans that have courageously entered the public arena to bring commonsense leadership back to our federal, state and local offices.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h3XJ6YqzSDnv0ILbj-AAS124AELAD9I0OKV80

  • sarainitaly

    Will Feminists Rally Around Sarah Palin?
    Her much-discussed profile contains attacks on her family life that make even some liberals cringe.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/03/will-feminists-rally-around-sarah-palin.html

  • TfT

    I guess the mediaite staff are on vacation or something. That there is still no follow-up on Glynnis’s endorsement of this piece of garbage Gross and his outrageous article is pretty stunning. Oh well, pushing lies is what NBC/MSNBC does and we all know there is a directl link between mediaite and NBC/MSNBC.

    The meltdown continues.

  • sarainitaly

    “What is perhaps most amazing about the profile is that it took this long for it to come about.”
    ~ Glynnis on VF piece on Palin.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/vanity-fair-on-sarah-palin-she-has-a-terrible-temper-is-a-bad-tipper/

  • TfT

    Yup Sara, Glynnis is pretty much alone on the left in embracing Gross’s BS.

    Sad actually. I thought Glynnis was a better person that that. Oh well, I won’t be fooled again.

    I have requested for over a day now that she woman up and admit her error, but alas, she is silent.

    Fer shame; her reputation takes another hit, one of her own doing. The downward trend of mediaite staff continues.

    I wonder just how much more embarrassment Dan can take.

  • Cecelia

    sarainitaly said:
    Will Feminists Rally Around Sarah Palin?
    Her much-discussed profile contains attacks on her family life that make even some liberals cringe.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/03/will-feminists-rally-around-sarah-palin.html

    Thanks for linking this article, sarainitaly!

    When I read the Mediaite’s excerpts of the VP piece, I couldn’t imagine any woman (no matter her politics) not cringing as she saw every pejorative female stereotype imaginable, being hauled out for a hit.

    Thanks for the confirmation.

  • sarainitaly

    It’s sad really, that they would remain silent for so long. I guess they don’t realize that it hurts all women, not just Palin, to allow those kinds of attacks…

  • NORBIT

    Here’s another example of why the Left holds NO CREDIBILITY with the majority of the American people – their Rank Hypocrisy!

    The same type of people who fall all over themselves defending Islamic adherents, will deliberately misconstrue something Palin says as gay-baiting.

    Have you heard much from them on the Islamic practice of STONING gays to death?
    Have you heard ANYTHING from these so-called gay and civil-rights groups?

    THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!

  • Cecelia

    Speaking of stereotypes, it is interesting that Palin pulls out the impotent allusions when she’s criticizing a male, ala this and when she said that the president doesn’t have the cojones to fix immigration.

    I suspect it’s a means of attributing some sort of virility to herself, and goodness knows women do have to work at being seen as having moxie and ability.

    However, Palin might need to remember “live by the sword, die by the sword”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lars-Svensen/100001028197161 Lars Svensen

    Sarah Palin was plainly stating that Michael Gross is less than a man, lacks virility, is testosterone-deficient. She doesn’t have much use for Brikenstock-wearing, bean-sprout muching limp-wristed liberal scribblers, whether gay or straight.

  • Cecelia

    Lars Svensen said:
    Sarah Palin was plainly stating that Michael Gross is less than a man, lacks virility, is testosterone-deficient. She doesn’t have much use for Brikenstock-wearing, bean-sprout muching limp-wristed liberal scribblers, whether gay or straight.

    May the best mindless stereotype win…

  • murf

    Sara & TfT .. LOL ! Are you serious,?! Glynnis is the biggest hack this side of the Mississippi . I doubt she even reads her comment section , she’s too busy drooling over Rachel Maddow reruns.

    Btw: Glynnis was a Huffington Post staff member before Mediaite , pretty much all you need to know.
    know.

  • Greg

    Gross misidentified a baby, hardly a grand sin as little ones lack the telling level of physiological differentiation that emerges with age… But as that error was made it has been corrected… If that is the totality of the rebuttal then the article remains damning…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dona-Barone/1060506711 Dona Barone

    e, I couldn’t imagine any woman (no matter her politics) not cringing as she saw
    __________
    I cringed at $arah’s sexual metaphors.

    impotent & limp??????? scuse me?

  • maxconrad

    Liberals are a pathetic joke. If someone says “I don’t like basketball” they start shrieking “THAT’S CODE FOR ‘I HATE BLACK PEOPLE’ BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE PLAY BASKETBALL!”

    Where did the pathetic liberals find the key to breaking all these code words? Or could it be they will do anything to slander people they don’t like?

    You don’t need to be a codebreaker to puzzle that one out.

  • Cecelia

    Dona Barone said:
    e, I couldn’t imagine any woman (no matter her politics) not cringing as she saw
    __________
    I cringed at $arah’s sexual metaphors.

    impotent & limp??????? scuse me?

    Read down…

  • Azarkhan

    Greg said:
    If that is the totality of the rebuttal then the article remains damning…

    How did you become such an asshole? Bad parenting, bad schooling, or just born that way?

  • Azarkhan

    Dona Barone said:
    impotent & limp??????? scuse me?

    Hey Donna, why is your pathetic leftist white ass still here? Shouldn’t you be packing your shit up and leaving?
    After all white girl, you are the problem:

    ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is not a new problem…Natives Americans use to call it WHITE PEOPLE.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dona-Barone/1060506711 Dona Barone

    : a boost to Palin’s 2012 prospects
    ______________
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA………

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dona-Barone/1060506711 Dona Barone

    I lived in Spain for 5 years,,,,just got BACK, thank you very much……..

  • Greg

    Azarkhan said:
    How did you become such an asshole? Bad parenting, bad schooling, or just born that way?

    Charming as ever Azarkhan… Not sure how I have angered you to the point of impeaching my fine and hard working parents, various institutions of learning populated by yet more fine and hard working Americans and finally my genetic line… It does seem that the net sum of these factors has produced a calmer and more respectful character than your assorted influences managed to muster… But that is where we are at generally so no surprise to see it play out here in the specific…

  • Azarkhan

    Dona Barone said:
    I lived in Spain for 5 years,,,,just got BACK, thank you very much……..

    Why did you come back white girl? I hope you don’t intend to stay white girl. White girl’s like you are part of the problem. Goodbye.

  • murphy0071

    How could Sarah Palin, who looks like a moose in drag, make comments against gays or question anyone’s sexual prowess. She has sold her soul and likely her femininity to the lowest bidder, the Republican lie machine. She doesn’t have a chnace to be elected to any political post including Wasilla Animal Control because there would be a conflict of interest. A feline like her couldn’t be trusted not to drop a litter of skunks. Oh, sorry, she already has enough skunks supporting her that it might give her credibility among neo-con dogs.

  • Azarkhan

    Greg said:
    Charming as ever Azarkhan

    More like accurate as ever…

  • Azarkhan

    murphy0071 said:
    How could Sarah Palin…

    I’m surprised you took your tongue off Obama’s asshole long enough to write all those insults.

  • murphy0071

    More Liberty said:
    Just another hit piece. I don’t care for Palin but damn you liberals have some serious issues with her. Your hate and derangement is over bearing.

    Why do you blame liberals for the thoughtless actions of Republicans who brought Sarah Palin into the nation political scene and left her to degenerate into the low life she has always been. Just give the bitch her rabies shot and see if that will help.

  • Greg

    Very “Dwight Schrute” of you…

  • Founders_were_Liberal

    Hmmm, did Ms. Palin dispute any of the facts in the VF article? No.
    If any truths written about the half-governor in the VF article were “lies,” the author and Vanity Fair could be sued.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see Ms. Palin resorting to or even threatening legal remedies. Since the article is truthful, all Ms. Palin can do is whine about it and slur the author.

    My favorite line from the article, and I paraphrase … “with no one home, when Sarah Palin walks through her front door, even the insects cringe.”

    This woman is an (frightening) idiot.

  • Azarkhan

    Founders_were_Liberal said:
    Since the article is truthful

    Hey dumb ass, google the retraction by Mr. Gross to the AP. You’ve just proven what a complete idiot you are.

  • Azarkhan

    Founders_were_Liberal said:
    Hmmm, did Ms. Palin dispute any of the facts in the VF article?

    Hmmm, did it occur to you that Ms. Palin doesn’t care to engage with leftist swine like Mr. Gross (or you)?

  • BatBoy

    Why is it that the progressives are the ones who believe they own

    words and phrases
    certain dates on the calander
    People (historical figures)
    Monuments in Washington on a specified certain date
    Words ending is “ism”
    Words ending in “ist”
    the ability to point fingers at everyone except themselves when using an “…ism” or “…ist” word.

    Why tell me Why!

  • BatBoy

    Founders_were_Liberal said:
    Hmmm, did Ms. Palin dispute any of the facts in the VF article? No.

    I am curious…how old are you?

  • Founders_were_Liberal

    Ooops, sorry, ONE correction does NOT take away from the other 99 truths in the article. Wrong baby id?
    This all you got dude?
    One mistaken identity, what about EVERYTHING else in the article?

    Oh, and Azarkahn, you special human being, sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me … Douche bag

  • bugspot1

    Azarkhan says:
    Hmmm, did it occur to you that Ms. Palin doesn’t care to engage with leftist swine like Mr. Gross (or you)?

    as usual – one sided blind idiot
    this article shows she is in fact engaging – but in the usual hes part of the media and the media is bad
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • BatBoy

    Founders_were_Liberal said:
    Ooops, sorry

    I know you are “Sorry!” …I am still curious how old you are…it will tell us much about your response!

  • Founders_were_Liberal

    I was born March 16, 1751. You do the math.

  • Azarkhan

    Founders_were_Liberal said:
    what about EVERYTHING else in the article?

    Hey asshole, EVERYTHING was based on anonymous sources. And check this out asshole, from Palin-hater Shannyn Moore:

    Mr. Michael Gross,

    You just “Sarah Palined” people here.

    I’m going through a list doing damage control and telling people I’m so sorry I gave you their contacts and vouched for your professionalism and credibility.

    You have neither.

    I don’t give a rip what you said about me – though it was so completely wrong, and put me in such a completely inaccurate and unfavorable light people are mad on my behalf.

    Fine thanks for Alaskan hospitality. I have extended the Alaska Spirit to dozens of journalists and visitors, and I will continue to do so. It’s on YOU, not me, as you are the only one who has broken agreements with sources you promised complete anonymity.

    I’m sure you’re thrilled to be on TV now. Just know, like Sarah, Alaskans paid a price for it. Specifically, a 79-year old woman, with failing health, who spoke to you under anonymity who hopes her adult children will speak to her again.

    Shame on you. You’re not a writer…you’re a climber.

    With no respect,

    Shannyn Moore

  • Azarkhan

    bugspot1 said:
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Keep that mouth open a little longer…I need to take a piss.

  • chasrmartin

    Sure, it was gay bashing. After all, everyone knows that straight men are never impotent.

    Idiots.

  • Nachi

    Ahh, Sara. Stay away from these in-depth subjects. Continue to suck a beer, while licking reptile skins & watching NASCAR. Like your many hillbilly followers. It’s Murchuh – 2010. Yup.

  • http://www.red=alerts.com Rob Taylor

    It says more about The Advocate that they associate impotence with attacks against gays. But I guess they aren’t as young as they used to be.

  • Phocus2

    Nachi said:
    Ahh, Sara. Stay away from these in-depth subjects. Continue to suck a beer, while licking reptile skins & watching NASCAR. Like your many hillbilly followers. It’s Murchuh – 2010. Yup.

    Whoa, no hate there. If you plan to spew your bile via comments, you might learn to spell the lady’s name correctly.

    Also, in order for Mr. Triplett to wonder out loud in this article, does that mean he is gay, impotent, and limp? Are all gay men impotent and limp Mr. Triplett…hmmm?

  • Some_Dude

    Not gay baiting, just good old fashioned emasculation.

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  • busbus

    I do not know if Mrs. Palin’s remarks were “gay bashing;” but, I do believe the Vanity Fair article is fair if you couple the charges with non-anonymous depictions of Mrs. Palin from those who have worked with her during the 2008 campaign. I tend to believe much of what the article states about her.

  • KMLake

    Sarah only hopes gay guys were impotent and limp or even castrated …. like her husband. …

    OK so… has anyone (but me) noticed how soft and sweet Faux “news” has become of late? Could it be that they actually read what we say about them (OH Rupert… you smelly way past dead vampire). But if they are … I mean actually… . listening….. do they know that we….. know about “stacking the deck?” “Stacking the deck” is when a huckster tells you …. Truth-truth-truth-big ole fat lie then-truth-truth-truth. It’s an ole carney trick and always works. But it stops being effective when folks know about it. Sorry Rupert (and Glen). We are not as dumb as you hope we are (close but not actually AS dumb as you hope) and every day we get a little smarter.

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    I do not know if Mrs. Palin’s remarks were “gay bashing;” but, I do believe the Vanity Fair article is fair if you couple the charges with non-anonymous depictions of Mrs. Palin from those who have worked with her during the 2008 campaign. I tend to believe much of what the article states about her.
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