But the credit-ratings agencies are waiting on the details of the deal,
and may stick to their guns that the $2.4 trillion in promised cuts fall
short of the $4 trillion they demanded in a “credible” plan to ward off
a downgrade by one notch to double A from triple-A…”More cuts are needed to stabilize” the U.S.’s annual budget-deficit-to
GDP ratio, S&P tells Fox Business, now at more than 9%.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/08/01/sp-moodys-await-debt-plan-details/
 

Is anyone stupid enough to think calling tax increases “revenue increases” really works?

Is there nothing liberals put out that isnt steeped in bullshit?

Why can’t you just admit: I want higher taxes, bigger government, socialized medicine, etc?

Why all the games with semantics? If you are so proud of your stances, then come out of the shadows and put them on the table. Admit who you are and let see if they can win on the battlefield of ideas, fair and square.

Or is it, you won’t do that because you already know the outcome?

NPA  ?

Who else ? Pelosi’s Posse ? Conyers’ Crew ? Code Pink ? Generic Union Thugs ?
 
Dem tactics , for sure .

National People’s Action (NPA) is a Network of community power organizations from across the country that work to advance a national economic and racial justice agenda.  NPA has over 200 organizers working to unite everyday people in cities, towns, and rural communities throughout the United States.

“The suspects chanted, ‘Hey Boehner, get a clue, it’s about revenue,’ as they were led away.”

They’re right. I mean if we just raised taxes, we’d have that $14.3 trillion debt and $1.5 trillion annual deficits wiped out in no time. Just soak those evil millionaires and billionaires. What’s that? The combined wealth of every American billionaire only comes out to $1.3 trillion total which doesn’t even cover this year’s budget shortfall? Oh, never mind.

“Hey Boehner, get a clue, it’s about revenue.”

“Revenue” = TAX INCREASES => lunatic-left d-cRAT socialists are the terrorists disrupting democracy.
(P.S. I point this out because NOT ONE of the lamestream socialist stooges will do it !)

In other words, they are anti-American assholes. Got it.

America’s “Terrorists” have been identified (Re: the idiot Biden’s recent idiocy) and they are DEMOCRATS.

(Recall the Democrat thuggery in Madison WI?)

Wow….another group of crazed leftists getting violent again. Surprising isn’t it?

We Tea Partyers won by making our voices heard…not bay acting like thug criminals as the leftards do.

If they weren’t wearing tri-corner hats, then this is an outrage!! HOW DARE THEY!

Man, those Tea Partiers are so violent, aren’t they? They’ll destroy this country if we let them continue to go free. What’s that? They were liberals protesting tax breaks for corporations? Isn’t it great that we still have principled people like that still in this country?

“More cuts are needed to stabilize” the
U.S.’s annual budget-deficit-to GDP ratio, S&P tells Fox Business,
now at more than 9%. 

Both cite the worrisome fact that the U.S.
credit markets face the retirement of the baby boomers putting added
stress on Social Security and Medicare, and as health reform will enroll
potentially 16 million uninsured on Medicaid, and another 16 million on
new, state-run health insurance exchanges subsidized by the federal
government.

The International Monetary Fund has said that a healthy ratio for countries is 7.5%.
Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/08/01/sp-moodys-await-debt-plan-details/#ixzz1ToeogPcw
 

Ask New Jersey what happened when under Corzine they put a hefty tax on the rich.

I’ll summarize:

They raised taxes on the rich, and then the budget actuary estimated would lead to a huge windfall.

when the real numbers came in, they found out that revenue DRAMATICALLY dropped in the state.

Why? Because Rich people simply upped and left. When will liberals figure out that raising revenues on paper from tax increases doesnt lead to actual revenue coming in?

The rich know how to shuffle their money. Close the loopholes, like Paul Ryan wants in his budget, and there is no need to place punitive tax increases on those who already pay plenty already.

UNLESS of course, it isnt about revenue at all. Its about the redistribution of wealth.

Dont get fooled for one second! Liberals couldn’t give two shits about debts or deficits. Never have, never will.

I agree with this. Call a spade a spade. It’s a tax hike.

This sort of plain speaking needs to be done across the board, though. The GOP can’t say what they want to do to Medicare is “entitlement reform.” John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and Paul Ryan need to look into a camera and say they want to give seniors a check and a menu of insurance companies and after that they’re on their own.

Don’t bother trying to explain the Laffer Curve to lefties. The concept of dynamic vs static taxation would likely cause their heads to explode. You’d think however that even those out there with Forrest Gump-level IQs would understand that there simply aren’t enough rich people to tax when we’re dealing with deficits of this magnitude. And even if there were, at some point these folks either go Galt or get the hell out of this country. Look at GE just last week announcing they’re sending jobs from Wisconsin to China. And that’s a corporation with ties to the White House that paid zero taxes last year. Imagine what the less fortunate companies would do if faced with massive tax hikes.

This is like Obama’s “spending in the tax code”, another flat out lie.

Wow! I am sure glad we toned down the hate speech like Obama asked. /sarc

“Look at GE just last week announcing they’re sending jobs from Wisconsin to China. And that’s a corporation with ties to the White House that paid zero taxes last year. Imagine what the less fortunate companies would do if faced with massive tax hikes.”

Hmm. That’s a good way to hurt your competition isn’t it?

It’s what they know. It’s what they do. It’s who they are.

Happens every time you have more than three dems/progs/liberals in a room, all hell breaks loose.

Seriously. Every frickin time.

That’s right! Deficits don’t matter! Wait…..where did I hear that before……..?

“It’s too bad, because Central Falls has always been a progressive city,”

Well, there’s your problem, bub.

Pablo would have brought his loaded assault weapon, like any sensible teabagger at a .townhall.

little gNOpiggies,

Just how in the world do you intend to PAY for the latest loan you said you were NOT going to approve?

By eating less pork rinds? Or by NOT taking your medication?

Even if you do both, you STILL have to increase your earning ability. GO GET ANOTHER JOB YOU MORONS!

Because that school in Iraq which just got new paint NEEDS someone, YOU, to pay for it.

If they come right out and say they want to dismantle or privatize Medicare and Americans don’t want them to, then what?

Call it entitlement reform.

They’re already on step 2.

MEDIAIte: WILL YOU POST THE STORY ON REP LANBORN AND HIS “TAR BABY” COMMENTS PLEASE?

MEDIAIte: WILL YOU POST THE STORY ON REP LANBORN AND HIS “TAR BABY” COMMENTS PLEASE?

just seen that on the net, what a dumbass

We should have gone with the Obama plan. More cuts, more revenues, more balance. The ratings houses and the bankers would be ecstatic. But, no, we have to listen to a bunch of spleen-venting, non-sensical nincompoops in the Tea Party.

Yet Lard Ass’s approval ratings are tanking. Go figure.

I heard that concrete brained Joe Biden called the TPs terrorists today. I guess this was the new kind of civil talk Barry was asking for after the Tucson shootings.

Well, Joe, what do you call these NPA terrorists? I call ‘em liberals! It is ALWAYS liberals- Code Pink, etc.

Watch out! There;s a tall, fair-skinned, blond, blue-eyed man behind you! He has to be a radical Islamo fascist terrorist!

Here’s the essential point:

“Even if some people say, ‘Well the Republicans
should have done this or they should have done that,’ they will hold the
president responsible,” Lamborn said in the interview.

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“Now I don’t want to even have to be associated with him [Obama]. It’s like
touching a tar baby and you get it and you’re stuck and you’re part of the
problem now, and you can’t get away.”

No racism there, is there?

What do you expect from a loud, caustic 20% of the country who uses angry protests and subversive tactics to get what they want?

Except that’s not the tea party, you dolt. That 20% are the percentage of liberals in this country.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conservatives-outnumber-moderates-liberals.aspx

Liberals are already WAY overrepresented in government and in the media. You all need to shut up and step aside and let Americans be governed by their own interests, not just in the interest of the few, or so-called “elite” as you are used to doing.

There are some sensible entitlement reforms to do and I give this example because it’s one I know of and all the facts are easy to verify, but it’ll sound like a lot like partisan class-warfare

Take Senator John McCain.  McCain is collecting 100% disability entitlements that he’s certainly earned, but can get by without.

McCain gets almost $5,000 a month from the Navy for the injuries he suffered in VietNam.  Uncle Sam says he’s earned it and I’d have to agree.

But… McCain is also earning about $15,000 a month as a United States Senator and his net worth is around $40,000,000.  In addition to McCain’s forty million, his wife Cindy is worth about $100 million. And bully for them, I say.

But should we still be paying wealthy people like Senator McCain $60,000 a year in disability payments when he can certainly get by without it?

And just who is NPA?

“We don’t want just a seat at the table. We want to run the table,” Hugh Espey, the executive director of Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement, said to me.

Increasingly, CCI is fashioning campaigns that draw on the strengths of traditional community organizing – the model most notably developed by Saul Alinsky – but that go beyond the confines of this model by building deep coalitions, employing sophisticated research, and combining direct action with policy reform and political engagement. Moreover, as a member of National People’s Action (NPA), a national “network of metropolitan, regional and statewide organizations that build grassroots power to advance racial and economic justice,” CCI is connecting what it is doing to a project with national scope.”

Yes, they are part of Barry’s family, just like ACORN- the group that convinced  Fannie Mae  that it should establish  goals of making  30% of its  loan purchases from  low-income people and another 30% from inner city residents with little to no down payments and without any income or credit checks.

Yea, and the rest is history.

“

And just who is NPA?

“We don’t want just a seat at the table. We want to run the table,” Hugh Espey, the executive director of Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement, said to me.

Increasingly, CCI is fashioning campaigns that draw on the strengths of traditional community organizing – the model most notably developed by Saul Alinsky – but that go beyond the confines of this model by building deep coalitions, employing sophisticated research, and combining direct action with policy reform and political engagement. Moreover, as a member of National People’s Action (NPA), a national “network of metropolitan, regional and statewide organizations that build grassroots power to advance racial and economic justice,” CCI is connecting what it is doing to a project with national scope.”

Yes, they are part of Barry’s family, just like ACORN- the group that convinced  Fannie Mae  that it should establish  goals of making  30% of its  loan purchases from  low-income people and another 30% from inner city residents with little to no down payments and without any income or credit checks.

Yea, and the rest is history.

“

The Tar-Baby is a doll made of tar and turpentine used to entrap Br’er Rabbit in the second of the Uncle Remus stories. The more that Br’er Rabbit fights the Tar-Baby, the more entangled he becomes. In modern usage, “tar baby” refers to any “sticky situation” that is only aggravated by additional contact.[1] The tar baby is a trap that should be avoided.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_baby

According to Random House, “the tar baby is a form of a character widespread in African folklore. In various folktales, gum, wax or other sticky material is used to trap a person.” And the Oxford American Dictionary defines tar baby much like Lamborn and politicians before him have
 used it, as “a difficult problem, that is only aggravated by attempts to solve it.”

http://www.kdvr.com/news/politics/kdvr-lamborn-tar-baby-comment-riles-the-left-20110801,0,4755288.story

If it’s good enough for our representatives in Congress,why wouldn’t it be good enough for seniors?

Wisconsin’s Economic Miracle: Goes From $3 Billion Deficit To $300 Million Budget Surplus Thanks To GOP Gov. Scott Walker…

No racism there, is there?

Not a lick of it.  As per timzank’s posts, the congressman used the term in it’s classic sense of the definition. That’s not to say he didn’t fall into an obvious trap in using an obscure term of saying anything remotely liable to set off the obscenely politically correct, knee-jerk left from attempting to score points on it.  But political correctness sucks, so there.  Normal folk in ever greater numbers are learning to ignore your type.

Racial prism on your part?  Highly likely.

Now if we can just get a bunch of progressives to figure out for the rest of the 350 million American’s just who can get by without.

Oh right.  You actually want someone to do that.

Or one size fits all.  Fairness.  Equality under the law.  Freedom from tyranny.  Things like that.

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of course, by “liberal” you mean “anyone to the left of george w. bush”

Nope Its people self identified as liberal.

Look at the Gallup poll I linked to. Unless of course, you’d rather remain ignorant. Your call.

Not a big whoop and just a minor point, but technically the House Recording Studio controls the cameras and mics. It is they who muted the sound and no outlet tapped into the feed received anything different. There’s only one source and it is under the direction of the House.

So when it comes to reforming entitlements, are you in the pro-welfare-for-millionaire camp?

There are some sensible entitlement reforms to do and I give this example because it’s one I know of and all the facts are easy to verify, but it sounds like partisan class-warfare

Take Senator John McCain.  McCain is collecting 100% disability entitlements which comes to almost $5,000 a month from the Navy for the injuries he suffered in VietNam.  Uncle Sam says he’s earned those entitlements, and I agree.

But… McCain is also earning about $15,000 a month as a United States Senator and his net worth is around $40,000,000.  In addition to McCain’s forty million, his wife Cindy is worth about $100 million. And bully for them, I say.

But should we still be paying wealthy people like Senator McCain $60,000 a year in disability entitlements when he can certainly get by without it?

Who can afford to sacrifice, if not McCain?

[Edit: this was edited from this post]

99er: ‘We Are Living in a 3rd World America’
Congress did not include any extension in this debt deal for
unemployment benefits, meaning the 99 week program will expire at the
end of this year. And anyone who loses their job after July 1 of this
year will only get 20 to 26 weeks of unemployment. Rhonda Taylor,
Advocate for the 99ers National discusses
http://youtu.be/Xk56WBQMwJo

so take his pension for 20+ years of military service?

so take his pension for 20+ years of military service?

The GOTP is talking about “sacrifice” but you teabaggers want the multi-millionaires to keep receiving their entitlements? That figures.

he earned those benefits for 20+years of military service and since he made something later in life they should be taken away?

he earned those benefits for 20+years of military service and since he
made something later in life they should be taken away?

The thing is, the chairman of the House Tea Party Caucus recently proposed cutting the benefits that our disabled vets are currently receiving, but under Michele Bachman’s proposed cuts, Senator McCain’s disability entitlements wouldn’t be affected at all even though he’s very wealthy and certainly doesn’t need any government handouts or entitlements.

If we’re not going to cut government entitlements going to multi-millionaires, then whose entitlements do youy propose we cut first?

thanks for being clear……..we will pay your pension, if you do not make a lot of money later in life…….if you do make a lot of money you get shit…….sounds fair to me

a pension is a entitlement now, got it

cjdohio1 writes:a pension is a entitlement now, got it

What do you think “entitlements” are, exactly?  The US Navy awarded McCain a 100% disability pension.

As I said before, McCain has certainly earned his disability entitlements. My only point is that since he’s now a multi-millionaire, does he really need to be collecting 5 thousand bucks a month from Uncle Sam when there’s not enough to go around as it is?

Whose entitlements should we cut if you don’t want to cut the ones that multi-millionaires are collecting from the government? That’s the question you’re not answering.

well mia, i am not a hard core righty so entitlement to me are things you did not earn but govt handouts, we will agree to disagree

cjdohio1 writes:well mia, i am not a hard core righty so entitlement to me are things you did not earn but govt handouts, we will agree to disagree

Oh, I see. What you call entitlement spending is something different than what the government and the CBO and the Congress and the Senate says it is.  How confusing for you.

PS- Don’t sell yourself short; for a righty, you sound plenty hard core.

pension, social security, medicare things you work for and pay into all your life to me are earned, maybe the government and people look at it different which is fine……welfare, food stamps, section 8, grants,  are entitlements……and no you cant cut all of the out…….wasteful spending is what kills us

and just a question, a teacher or firefighter retire….then win 25 million in the lottery, should the govenment quit paying their pension?

cjdohio1 writes:pension, social security, medicare things you work for and pay into all your life to me are earned, maybe the government and people look at it different which is fine……welfare, food stamps, section 8, grants,  are entitlements……and no you cant cut all of the out …..

It all falls under “entitlement spending” no matter what you want to call it in your own private vocabulary.

cjdohio1 writes:wasteful spending is what kills us

Agreed, but you don’t seem to think it’s wasteful to be paying out 60 grand a year in disability entitlements to multi-millionaires, cjdohio1.  That’s where we must agree to disagree.

And again, I truly believe that John McCain has fully earned the disability entitlements he’s collecting, regardless of how many millions of dollars he’s worth.

But why not we cut the entitlement spending at the top, first?

MIA,

An excellent, philosophic question you ask.  

In fact, I believe questions like yours need to transcend the academic and considered as potential policy.  You may have read one of my posts where I discuss “Neutral Principle,” which is a philosophy that applies philosophy, rather leave such moldering in the halls of academe?

Anyway, my initial response to your question is: WHO gets to make the determination, and who and what is taken from the ‘have too much’s,’ and subsequently, given to the ‘not have enough’s?’

Also,  American’s have spent much time recently, talking about wealth without mentioning success.  The two do tend to go, hand in hand.  Furthermore, why are/is a significant plurality of Americans, so concerned about the successful’s wealth, yet not thoroughly examine those citizens who fail to achieve success?  (And I am NOT talking about expanding “Head Start” programs for 30 year old dead beats)

Lastly, until I am persuaded otherwise,  John McCain and his Family should make any decision regarding money and income he is qualified too receive.  NOT me and NOT you…  But I am listening.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

BARNEY,

Haven’t seen you for a while.  I noticed you gave me a thumbs up on a post, Thank you.  I assume I’ll be seeing you?

Purveyor

cjdohio1 writes:and just a question, a teacher or firefighter retire….then win 25 million in the lottery, should the govenment quit paying their pension?

If they’re collecting disability payments like McCain and they hit the lottery for $25 million, YES, the disability payment should stop.

Until we get back to a balanced budget or a surplus like before.

What say you?

PURVEYOR OF SCHMEGMA asks:Anyway, my initial response to your question is: WHO gets to make
the determination, and who and what is taken from the ‘have too much’s,’
and subsequently, given to the ‘not have enough’s?’

Those who “have too much” LOL  You’re  a hoot.

you do know that mccain would draw a pension anyway, with the same amount of money , because his 20+years of service…..so the word disability is your sticking point

cjdohio1 writes:you do know that mccain would draw a pension anyway, with the same amount of money , because his 20+years of service…..so the word disability is your sticking point

In Senator McCain’s case, he collects his $60,000 a year disability pension 100% tax free.

And don’t think I haven’t noticed that you’ve managed to weasel out of answering my question for about 10 posts now.

PS- I’ll be back in a while. See if you can summon up the courage to give a straight answer while I’m gone.

tax free is your sticking point now………your first question about millionaires……no, i dont think the rules should be different for them……..the rules should apply to everyone equally

you cut everyone entitlements or no ones…….

and now i know how you are, 20+year military service, being tortured, but now that you have money, F off you dont get the benefits you earned

and you must be pissed with VP biden charging the secret service 2200 a month to rent a cottage on his property so they can protect his family……..should he let them stay there rent free? 

I am sorry, I did not understand your response, were you including humor to make a point?

I thought I provided you with an insightful and reasoned response, completely relevant to your Post.  The question I asked you was, more or less rhetorical:  ”Who gets to make the determination” pertaining to the “have too Much’s” and “not have enoughs”?

“Rhetorical,” as I did not expect you to answer a question that could expose your unique motivation(s) for your political inclinations.  Granted, I was challenging and attempting to determine the extent of your intellect, however, I did hope for a more insightful and/or spirited discourse?  Oh well.

Anyway, responding to a question with a question, is considered bad form and a weak debate tactic.  Effectively, you changed the subject.  Regardless, I will indulge you:  obviously, the successful and/or wealthy could have more to “sacrifice”.  

However,  The true, fundamental question was mine, to you:  WHO DECIDES the viability and amount of that “sacrifice.”  This question and answer will expose the honor, integrity and intent of your motives, or, lack thereof.  Questions such as mine need to be asked of all politicians so American’s know who they are REALLY voting for.

What are you and your compatriots hiding?

Purveyor

ENJOY ,  no offense RRE, but that spleen thing vision was pretty good.   But you know the truth,  left to his own devices Obama would just keep on raising debt limit, and then making sure he reached it.  The Tea Party forced everyone to get serious before it was too late,  IF it isnt already.   The real truth here is simply,  Liberals just hate RICH people or so they say, even tho most congress critters with money are Liberals.  AND Liberals just hate it when they cant punish RICH people by taxing the hell out of them.  You dont care about revenue,  taxing the rich will cause that to fall,  you just want to vent your hate and tax and tax and tax them into just packing up and leaving. Boy that sure solved everything didnt it?

You see,  its that arrogant elitist thinking from you Liberals,  that only you can put meaning to anything ever said or thought in any arena.  Clue:  You have been wrong for decades,  and your not getting any better.

Ok RRE, since you cant focus,  make it a honey-baby ok,  end result and the thrust of  his comment was you get near Obama and you get stuck.  Or do you have something against Bees too.

Purveyor of Schmegma responds, eventually, sort of:Regardless, I will indulge you:  obviously, the successful and/or
wealthy could have more to “sacrifice”.

Thank you. Finally! Why is it always so damned difficult to get a straight, logical answer from you teatards?

cjdohio1 sez:and now i know how you are, 20+year military service, being tortured, but now that you have money, F off you dont get the benefits you earned

McCain has already received easily over a milliion dollars from Uncle Sam, tax free, in disability benefits!

And McCain and his wife are worth over a hundred million dollars. But as I said, this isn’t about McCain; it’s about who’s entitlements should be cut. McCain serves only as the perfect example of wasteful entitlement spending, in my opinion.

But I know your concern for our veterans is phoney because your TeaBagger Queen Michele Bachman proposed cutting benefits to disabled vets and you still support her, right?

is it the tax free part, or is it  that he recieves something?

thank you…..wasteful entitlement spending…..got it…….if you come into money later in life you should not get your pension…..i understand you now

and do you think the 191,000 a year pension president clinton recieves should be cut  also?

NOTE TO THE READER, WHAT FOLLOWS IS A RATHER BIZARRE AND DISJOINTED EXCHANGE WITH MIA KULPER.  I’VE KNOWN FOR SOME TIME THAT SHE AND I ARE POLITICAL OPPOSITES, REGARDLESS, I LIKED HER    ”ABOVE POST”    AND THE PHILOSOPHICAL IMPLICATIONS.

I WROTE TO MIA, COMPLIMENTING HER AND OFFERING TO ENGAGE IN FURTHER DISCOURSE.  STRANGELY, WHAT FOLLOWED WAS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MIA’s INCOHERENT RAMBLINGS AND MIS-CONTEXT CONCLUSIONS.

I HAVE HAD OBLIQUE AND EVEN THREATENING CONVERSATIONS IN HERE, BUT, THIS ONE WITH MIA, IS CERTAINLY UNIQUE. 

 WOW!

FURTHER NOTE TO THE READER,

LMAO!

cjdohio1 sez:is it the tax free part, or is it  that he recieves something?

You can’t be this dense by accident, cj.

I can only assume you fully support Tea Party leader Michele Bachman’s proposal to cut the benefits we pay to our disabled veterans?

assume and you make a ass of yourself, answer the question……bachmann has nothing to do with it

and you must be pissed with VP biden charging the secret service 2200 a month to rent a cottage on his property so they can protect his family……..should he let them stay there rent free?

I am sure that if you had an empty home, instead of renting it out to tennants, you’d gladly let the local police move in and use your property rent-free for the next 6 years.

Not that it has anything to do with entitlements or that you’re trying to change the subject or anything like that.

well if the only job the local police is doing protecting me and my family, yeah

wasteful entitlements….mccain’s pension, non-wasteful entitlements bill clinton’s pension got it mia

Mia writes:I can only assume you fully support Tea Party leader Michele Bachman’s proposal to cut the benefits we pay to our disabled veterans? But don’t worry… McCain’s entitlements are safe!

cjdohio1 sez: ..bachmann has nothing to do with it

Your Tea Party Queen Michele Bachman proposed to cut the benefits going to disabled vets, (about 150,000 of them .. but not John McCain) but no, Michele Bachman has nothing to do with anything, of course.

Dear lord, can you stop spinning for a minute and be honest?

NOTE TO READER.  A VERY COMMON DEBATE/ARGUMENTATION TACTIC IS TO PROVIDE ONLY PARTIAL QUOTES WHICH GOES NICELY WITH “OUT OF CONTEXT” TACTIC.  ANYWAY, IN THE PENULTIMATE PARAGRAPH KULPER QUOTES ME:

“The wealthy have more to sacrifice”

HOWEVER, KULPER LEAVES OUT THE SUBSEQUENT PARAGRAPH WHERE I AGAIN ASK HER TO CONSIDER AND ANSWER MY PRECEDING QUESTION FROM MY FIRST POST/RESPONSE:

“Who decides the viability and amount of that sacrifice”?

ANYWAY, IMMEDIATELY BELOW, “MEA CULPA” SEEMS TO DECLARE VICTORY BY SUGGESTING THAT SHE GOT ME TO ADMIT THE OBVIOUS: THE SUCCESSFUL/WEALTHY HAVE MORE MONEY TO BE CONFISCATED. (A REVELATION?) IN FACT, IN MY FIRST RESPONSE I CLEARLY SAY:”Until convinced otherwise, John McCain and his family should make any decision regarding [his] money.”AS I SAID ABOVE, “BIZARRE AND DISJOINTED.”  ALSO, CLINICALLY INCOHERENT.I TRIED TO CARRY ON A CONVERSATION WITH A LIBERAL and all I got was an Obama T-Shirt! LOL

Purveyor Of Schmegma wrote:“Until convinced otherwise, John McCain and his family should make any decision regarding [his] money.

Riiiight. So in other words, no entitlement cuts for multi-millionaires unless they willingly agree to give them up.

Or, in other other words, let’s continue to give entitlements to multi-millionaires who surely don’t need them but still collect them from Uncle Sam anyway.

I guess we’ll cut off peoples’ food stamps. Medicare and Social Security instead. That’s the “entitlement reform” they’re selling.

You have lost your opportunity to carry on meaningful discourse with me. This could have been an interesting discussion as you are obviously passionate. I was curious as to what kind of intellect lay underneath, as a foundation.

Considering this last Post, I would ask what part, if any, the Constitutional concept of “due process” might play in any re-distribution. You can’t just have something because you think it is a good thing. If, you can present a coherent and supportable case, you might prevail.

I actually agree that it might be worth exploring and asking wealthier American’s to forgo some “entitlements” for the benefit of the country. However, most successful people are shrewd and they would need to be convinced such it not a waste of time and THEIR money. BUT, I’ve now grown weary.

Purveyor

Oh Dear, not again?

“Schmegma,” not smegma, is my last name.  I come from a long and proud line of “Schmegmites!”

Purveyor Of Schmegma wrote:“Schmegma,” not smegma, is my last name.  I come from a long and proud line of “Schmegmites!”

Any relation?