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Charlie Rangel To Judge Napolitano On Debt Limit: ‘It’s A Great Government, Why Not Be Big?’

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Democratic Congressman Charlie Rangel appeared with Judge Andrew Napolitano last night and they respectfully disagreed with one another on the issue of whether the government should be able to tax and spend more money. Yet surprisingly, they found common ground on a different issue, as they both agreed that the President, no matter their political affiliation, should not be able to send troops overseas without first obtaining a declaration of war from Congress.

Rangel argues “the reason why Congress allows it to happen is because their constituents aren’t making any sacrifice” and that instituting a national draft would force the country to be more serious and more reluctant about any decision regarding the troops. Napolitano responds that a draft isn’t necessary when Congress merely needs to stand up and defend their already existing constitutional authority. Rangle persisted though, believing that “everybody should give our government a couple years of public service.” The Judge quickly dismissed the idea as a “form of slavery.”

Finally Napolitano was upset that no President seems to be able to live within their economic means, and could not understand the rationale behind voting to borrow more money in the future. Rangel made a valiant attempt to convince the Judge, which prompted Napolitano to tell “big government” Rangel, “I commend you for the force with which you defend that nonsense.” Rangel laughed and responded, “it’s a great government, why not be big?”

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  • timzank

    What Charlie doesn’t seem to grasp is the simple math of it all. That or he doesn’t care. Either way he should be doing interviews from behind bars for the rest of his miserable taxpayer sucking life.

  • seek

    …and Charlie the brilliant wonder was re-elected. Who’d have thunk? Honestly, this is what is cluttering up our Government?

  • Barack Must Go

    Charlie Rangel To Judge Napolitano On Debt Limit: ‘It’s A Great Government, Why Not Be Big?’

    Well there you have it. The top democrat ( former ) on the ” Ways & Means ” committee in total denial as to the dire straits America, and the world for that matter are in.

    Just another grotesque reality of life in Barack Obama’s amerika.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Rangle is a proven liar and a crook. Nothing he says is credible. No one should be giving this thief air time. Fox is making a big mistake dragging this clown out it just serves to make them look like they are trying to play to the black community.

  • timzank

    I hope he lives long enough to witness the economic collapse of this country, of course if he does he’ll be watching all the mayhem via satellite from the Dominican Republic condo we bought for him.

  • Penguin60

    timzank said:
    I hope he lives long enough to witness the economic collapse of this country

    All the while blaming it on GWB.

  • Jaurez

    Loser.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Tim, you are assuming that the collapse of our current system isn’t what some libs are after. Cloward and Piven anyone. A necessary first step in implementing the system they really want.

  • winning

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Tim, you are assuming that the collapse of our current system isn’t what some libs are after. Cloward and Piven anyone. A necessary first step in implementing the system they really want.

    This is the truth of it. Independents mean well but are stupid, they can’t bring themselves to believe what’s in front of their eyes. The “it can’t happen here” thing. Hard core lefties know exactly what’s going on, the step by step dismantling of Capitalism and the march toward Oligarchy with the privileged few, well connected elitists and financiers leading the idiot “progressives” around by the nose with promises of free crap courtesy of some rich guy getting punished. This same song and dance has produced ghettos and generations of poor welfare recipients in the inner cities of most large metropolises in America, as liberal after liberal gets voted into office with promises to make life better. Hasn’t really worked out, has it?

  • Kitsune

    Rangel’s idea of a draft : “Oh, did you vote Republican? YOU AND YOUR ADULT CHILDREN ARE GOIN’ TO THE FRONT LINES! HAVE A NICE DEATH! HAHAHAHAHA!”

  • felixw

    Congrats, Matt.. This is a smart article offering frank give-and-take on a real issue. In fact, the whole mix of stories at Mediaite over the last few days has been first rate.

  • The Dweller Ysul

    Kitsune said:
    Hard core lefties know exactly what’s going on, the step by step dismantling of Capitalism…

    Actually, Ronald Reagan nearly tripled the national debt, with George Dumbya Bush doubling it yet again, neither of which ever having come close to proposing a balanced budget. And who, again, were the fuckheads who not only voted for those two bozos, but still hold them in high regard while squealing about the national debt like a bunch of little girls at the sign of the first periods?

    That’s a rhetorical question, of course, but you’re right about one thing, Kitsune, we do know what’s going on, and what has been going on.

  • The Dweller Ysul

    Oh, and anyone want to explain the concept of “slavery” to the Judge?

  • winning

    The Dweller Ysul said:
    anyone want to explain the concept of “slavery” to the Judge?

    Non-consensual servitude, like being drafted into the military. An all volunteer military is why the US’s military is so professional.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-May/1260605667 Carol May

    I agree withJudge that compulsory military service is like the government owning your life — which it does not — but I also agree that the fact that most people don’t have their own lives on the line– or the lives of their own family members on the line — is precisely why they don’t care whether war is entered into soberly and by the book, or even if it is necessary. Heck, it’s entertainment.

    It’s similar to the way people are careful with their own money but are careless with the money of others — perfectly illustrated by the way congress is wontonly careless with taxpayer money. it’s the same process, expanded to include being careless with other people’s lives.

    When our country is in real peril people will line up to defend it. They’ll lie about their age and health. When it’s not, you haven’t got many takers. The last time there were huge war protests though was Vietnam — when the public had their own lives being being placed on the sacrificial altar — for nothing.

    I’m not suggesting we go back to forcing people to go die in the Empire’s endless wars. I’m just saying that’s why people don’t care.

  • Azarkhan

    “it’s a great government, why not be big?” Charlie Rangel

    Because stupid, the bigger it is, the less efficient it is and the more it costs. But of course, since you’ve been sucking on the government tit for decades at taxpayer expense, you don’t care.

  • darladoon

    well it sounds like napolitano doesn’t think there should be any taxes at all.

    you can’t have a discussion with anyone who, on an epistemological level, does not agree with the idea
    that governments collect taxes and spend money.

    especially when tax rates in the US are at their lowest since 1958.

  • darladoon

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Rangle is a proven liar and a crook. Nothing he says is credible. No one should be giving this thief air time. Fox is making a big mistake dragging this clown out it just serves to make them look like they are trying to play to the black community.

    you obviously didn’t watch the clip

  • The Dweller Ysul

    winning said:
    Non-consensual servitude, like being drafted into the military.

    Wrong. Slavery is one private citizen owning another human being as chattel, with complete control over all of the latter’s actions, at all times and forever. Conscription into US military is a well-delineated agreement among free citizens via the political progress to man the military in times of peril. Not recognizing this chasm of a distinction is the kind of cluelessness that has given rise to the expression, “white people’s problems.”

    As for our military’s indubitable professionalism, I credit it more to the professionalism of our society in general, and to the fact that we spend more money on our military than all other nations combined spend on theirs.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    darladoon said:
    you obviously didn’t watch the clip

    You obviously didn’t understand my comment. Not unusual for a dimwit lib. The lib gene has warped your mind.

  • darladoon

    gordonbloyershow said:
    You obviously didn’t understand my comment. Not unusual for a dimwit lib. The lib gene has warped your mind.

    gee, such a pleasant guy. i’m sure your show is as professional as your refreshing attitude.

    seriously, watch the clip and engage the ideas within, rather than throw out knee-jerk anger/vitriol.

  • darladoon

    for the record, here is your “intelligent” quote:

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Rangle is a proven liar and a crook. Nothing he says is credible. No one should be giving this thief air time. Fox is making a big mistake dragging this clown out it just serves to make them look like they are trying to play to the black community.

    not exactly a springboard for further discussion. just flame-throwing.

  • Pablo

    ‘It’s A Great Government, Why Not Be Big?’

    It’s a great government if you’ve got your snout in the trough, like Charlie Rangel does. The rest of America is rightly disgusted with it.

  • James Randal

    He might be a tax cheat, but unlike you teabagger/GOP pigs, he isn’t a keyboard warrior. The man served his country during the Korean war and is a decorated war hero. He isn’t a chickenhawk like Bush and Cheney.

    Charles Rangel: Bronze Star (with valor device), Purple Heart
    Dick Cheney: Draft Dodger

    The real reason why teabagger/GOP pigs hate Rangel and Kerry is because they shatter the myth that liberals are cowardly. All of the teabagger/GOP pigs who post on this blog need to realize that they are not fit to clean Rangel’s feet. She should be pardoned for her heroic service and the bullshit he had to endure due to conservative racism.

  • winning

    The Dweller Ysul said:
    Slavery is one private citizen owning another human being ..

    That’s fine and all, I’m not going argue verbiage, but military life does include checking some of your rights at the door and submitting to military law in addition to civilian law. Yes, you can say that we, as a society, vote in or out the people who make these decisions, however, the age group subject to the draft are a minority of voters.

  • James Randal

    gordonbloyershow said:
    You obviously didn’t understand my comment. Not unusual for a dimwit lib. The lib gene has warped your mind.

    Delusional bastard. How many times do I have to tell you that LIBERALS ARE GENETICALLY SUPERIOR? I know you are in denial, but try to accept the truth.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132655.htm

  • winning

    James Randal said:
    but unlike you teabagger/GOP pigs

    James Randal said:
    The real reason why teabagger/GOP pigs hate Rangel

    James Randal said:
    All of the teabagger/GOP pigs who post on this blog

    Don’t feel bad, homes, I’d be pissed, too, if Obama was the face of my political philosophy. I mean seriously, what a douchebag.

    James Randal said:
    Delusional bastard. How many times do I have to tell you that LIBERALS ARE GENETICALLY SUPERIOR?

    :)

    When someone feels the need to tell you how smart they are, they ain’t.

  • Jaurez

    winning said:
    Don’t feel bad, homes, I’d be pissed, too, if Obama was the face of my political philosophy. I mean seriously, what a douchebag.

    :)

    When someone feels the need to tell you how smart they are, they ain’t.

    Skippy is none too bright…

  • seek

    I’m sorry but I couldn’t bring myself to watch Charlie. The guy hasn’t made an intelligent comment since 1942 when he said goo goo gah gah. Absolutely stupid man.

    Recall his defence against the charges. It was beyond lame. A republican would have been run out of town but Charlie got a pass. A user and abuser. Someone please explain how he became a millionaire on our dime.

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    Al Capone’s and his men hated Government, laws and regulations, Police and everyone else of authority. I understand why Al Capone and his men hated this arrangement, but I am having trouble understanding, without bias, why Fox News and their men hate the same things that Al Capone’s men hated. Since they don’t like Our American Government does that mean they do like the Chinese and Russian Government better?
    I hope these News People are not going commie on us.

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    Rangel and Napolitano need to go back and check history thou rally, Seldom was war declared before enter the fighting stages, yet we all have a tendency to say; Congress should declare way before we start fighting. You all are thinking too hard…

  • SmartAlec

    Rangel wouldn’t be saying it’s a great government if they had put him in jail where he belongs.

  • X-3

    Rangel, in many ways, illustrates why the US is about to devolve into a third world country.

    SmartAlec said:
    Rangel wouldn’t be saying it’s a great government if they had put him in jail where he belongs.

    Thanks for reminding us. Yes, the crook should be in jail.

  • hgarner2000

    From one perspective, the U.S. can be viewed as a defacto socialist regime, but it’s not about Republicans versus Democrats, it’s about the fact that the lion’s share of our GDP is from the government sector involving everything from various social services (which are usually among the first things government wants to cut) to our massive, sprawling, uber-excessive military industrial complex (which, to our collective peril, will likely be among the last things government will cut.) If you haven’t paid a visit to some of the newer, suburbanite, McMansion complexes in the Virginian DC area, go, and you’ll see just how dependant our economy really is on the merchants of death. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to see anyone lose their job. However, there’s a lot of talent in these places that could be prospering on the noble, human endeavor to build rather than destroy.

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