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DSCC Chair Sen. Bob Menendez: Working With GOP Like ‘Negotiating With Terrorists’

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The fight over extending the Bush tax cuts has created an atmosphere of conflict and exasperation not atypical to Washington among Congressmen, and on this Saturday session, the pressure is already creating buzzworthy soundbites. The latest off-color comment comes from New Jersey senator and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee chair Robert Menendez, who, in describing his work with Republicans, said it something like negotiating with “terrorists.”

As ABC News’ Johnathan Karl reports, he didn’t really compare the GOP to terrorists themselves but, rather, the process of talking to them to that of talking to terrorists, and arguing the Democrats should not allow themselves to be “held hostage” by the Republican caucus:

“Do you allow yourself to be held hostage and get something done for the sake of getting something done, when in fact it might be perverse in its ultimate results? It’s almost like the question of do you negotiate with terrorists.”

Menendez’s spokesperson later told ABC that the quote was taken “out of context,” and that “the critical point for middle class Americans remains that Republicans have chosen to jeopardize tax cuts for every middle class family in order to guarantee an average tax cut of $104,000 for each millionaire.” And Senator Menendez does have that “almost” in there to soften the blow. With the tax struggle on the fast track to becoming the top story of next week’s news cycle, it will be difficult for Menendez to avoid that soundbite, however, especially when the Republicans have a few words on this matter to sweep under the rug themselves.

Menendez’s comments via ABC News below:

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  • skyfet

    Well I may not put it like that but I understand. It’s not easy negotiating with terrorist, it’s nearly impossible to negotiate with the GOP. They would rather the rest of the country go through with tax increases, because Millionaires and Billionaires and the upper middle-classes are not taken care off.

    Constantly lie an make things up, how can you negotiate with someone that claims you want to kill Grandma, it’s madness.

    I approve of my stuff, if you don’t like it, well take a hike.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Hell, it is like negotiating with terrorists. The Tealiban/Republicans are holding the middle class and the unemployed hostage. Unless tax cuts for the rich are extended, the Tealiban/Republicans will shoot the middle class and the unemployed by raising their taxes and cutting off unemployment benefits. Dark Dickensian artistic fiction brought to life by the Tealiban/Republicans.

    Menendez is simply calling a spade a spade – he shouldn’t back off the truth.

  • ImNotBlue

    And here I thought the Obama Democrats WANTED to negotiate with terrorists…

  • Atticus Draco

    LOL
    at times like this
    I’M F’n PROUD TO BE A REPUBLICAN!!!

  • Elaine B

    Menendez is speaking the truth! The GOP has done nothing for the last 4 years but say NO to everything. It is going to be a rude awaking to the Republican party that there will be nothing accomplished in this congress. They will continue to oppose everything. The losers here are the AMERICAN’S, each and everyone of us.

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    Hell, it is like negotiating with terrorists. The Tealiban/Republicans are holding the middle class and the unemployed hostage. Unless tax cuts for the rich are extended, the Tealiban/Republicans will shoot the middle class and the unemployed by raising their taxes and cutting off unemployment benefits. Dark Dickensian artistic fiction brought to life by the Tealiban/Republicans. Menendez is simply calling a spade a spade – he shouldn’t back off the truth.

    Fact: Why do you D-bagging liberals get off stealing from others? Taxes are high enough for all. Quit spending money is the real way to save money just like it was your own checkbook. It’s time to take the charge card away from you people because you have a spending disease. Oh by the way 104K is two jobs filled per tax payer jackass!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Elaine B said:
    Menendez is speaking the truth! The GOP has done nothing for the last 4 years but say NO to everything. It is going to be a rude awaking to the Republican party that there will be nothing accomplished in this congress. They will continue to oppose everything. The losers here are the AMERICAN’S, each and everyone of us.

    And when Americans recognize that failure is a Republican tradition, they’ll soundly reject them.

  • Harry Flashman

    “Poopy-faced doo-doo heads” will be next.

    The footstomping children of the liberal left can’t bully the right the way they’ve done for the last couple of years so they do what they do best – call names. The reality they’re facing, the fact that they’re done politically and have to deal now instead of bulldozing to get what they want, is an unpleasant one for them.

    Those mean ol’ Republicans are such……stink faces.

    Heh.

  • Just4thefax

    Elaine B said:
    Menendez is speaking the truth! The GOP has done nothing for the last 4 years but say NO to everything. It is going to be a rude awaking to the Republican party that there will be nothing accomplished in this congress. They will continue to oppose everything. The losers here are the AMERICAN’S, each and everyone of us.

    Fact: The November 2nd election was a mandate and you and your kind is stuck on stupid and didn’t catch that it was an ass whipping! Hell 2012 is coming and the rest of the thugs will go also!

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    And when Americans recognize that failure is a Republican tradition, they’ll soundly reject them.

    Fact: You must work in a restaurant or maybe a yard crew cutting yards in neighborhoods because if you have worked for any company making less than 250K you’re probably scared about your future and should be or either one of these two jobs have your back and your vested future is looking bright because you believe to tax small businesses will help. I live in my means and so should you liberal lunatics! Quit spending my money, get a job and pay for it because the republicans are sick of supporting you democrats and we are kicking you out of the house!

  • Atticus Draco

    LMAO
    Wait until 2012 when we control everything
    You bleeding hearts will be squealing then,, betcha!

    “OMG THEY ARE WORST THAN TERRORISTS!!!
    THEY’RE THE EVIL INCARNATE”

    “What do you mean we only got 6 weeks to find a job?!?”
    “I gotta pay for my own health care?!?”

  • felixw

    What hypocrisy! After two years of the slimiest congressional politics — with payoffs, bills passed before anyone can read them, dubious procedural moves, pork and earmarks galore, secret back room deals, and a total lack of transparency — the Democrats now have to do the one thing they hate doing most of all. Namely, negotiate with Republicans. True, they prefer to do their dirty work by siphoning taxpayer money off to Blanche Lincoln and other Democrat hacks. But now the voters expect them to do some real legislating. So of course they are distraught and unhappy.

    But they need to get used to it. Voters have put a more responsible and accountable party in charge of Congress, and the Democrats gotta deal with it.

  • Atticus Draco

    felixw said:
    What hypocrisy! After two years of the slimiest congressional politics — with payoffs, bills passed before anyone can read them, dubious procedural moves, pork and earmarks galore, secret back room deals, and a total lack of transparency — the Democrats now have to do the one thing they hate doing most of all. Namely, negotiate with Republicans. True, they prefer to do their dirty work by siphoning taxpayer money off to Blanche Lincoln and other Democrat hacks. But now the voters expect them to do some real legislating. So of course they are distraught and unhappy.

    But they need to get used to it. Voters have put a more responsible and accountable party in charge of Congress, and the Democrats gotta deal with it.

    LMAO,, you forgot Obamacare waivers

    HEY,, YOU THINK THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL GAMES ON THAT FLOOR RIGHT NOW?
    LOL
    ‘HOLY CHIT THE REPUBLICANS ARE SERIOUS!!!”

  • notsofast

    skyfet said:
    I approve of my stuff, if you don’t like it, well take a hike.

    You are an idiot.

  • notsofast

    DSCC Chair Sen. Bob Menendez: Working With GOP Like ‘Negotiating With Terrorists’”

    Then I will wait to see the video of your head being sliced off, you deplorable Dim.

  • Elaine B

    Atticus Draco said:
    Atticus Draco says:
    December 4, 2010 at 4:42 pm Atticus Draco(Quote)
    Thumb up 0 Thumb down 3

    LOL
    at times like this
    I’M F’n PROUD TO BE A REPUBLICAN!!!

    Atticus, perhaps you were being sarcastic but how could anyone be proud of being a Republican during these times?

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    Atticus, perhaps you were being sarcastic but how could anyone be proud of being a Republican during these times?

    Ask all the Americans who threw you and your Dim-wits out on 11/2/2010, dear!!!

  • Elaine B

    Not4fox,

    I sure wish you new what you were saying. It would make trying to have a discussion with you so much easier.

  • Elaine B

    Notsosmart,

    That goes for you too!

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    Notsosmart,

    That goes for you too!

    calling you an idiot would be an insult to idiots.

    But send me a blueprint of your brain; I want to build an idiot for my friend for XMAS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Why do you D-bagging liberals get off stealing from others? Taxes are high enough for all. Quit spending money is the real way to save money just like it was your own checkbook. It’s time to take the charge card away from you people because you have a spending disease. Oh by the way 104K is two jobs filled per tax payer jackass!

    Fact: Republicans delivered this Great Recession cum Great Depression 2.0 by adding $6.5 trillion to the national debt 2001-FY 2009; $10 trillion of our current $10 trillion of our currrent $13+ trillion national debt accrued under Reagan and Bush 1 and 2; 2001-2009 unemployment doubled, tax receipts dimiinshed to the lowest level since the Great Depression 1, the market crashed, foreclosures hit record levels, banks closed … and the GOP a/k/a Giant Organization of Pricks regard that as success. Heckuva effing job.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Yep, the GOP will control all three branches of government again in 2012. Can’t wait to see all the ideology go up in smoke when it comes time to pay the bills in 2013. Conservatives policy makes for good sound bites in a campaign, and terrible policy on the ground. Obama arrived just in time to take the blame for W. Not going to happen next time. SCOTUS saw to that with CU v. FEC. So, you will have your permanent majorities soon enough. And then you’ll have no one else to blame when conservative supply-side economics fails again… and again… and again. And as America slips into has-been status, you will have only yourselves to blame… though it won’t stop you from blaming liberals anyway. Just like you blame unions (lowest membership in forty years), welfare recipients (lowest rolls in forty years), or shadowy liberal media overlords who don’t exist, you will never see your own role in America’s destruction. Conservatives are traitors – always have been, always will be. When the history books are written about the end of America’s greatness, it is conservatives who will be cast in the role of villain, not the liberals who created and nurtured this country from inception. You have always tried to tear us apart… and you’re finally going to get your way. Congratulations.

  • Arthur (Not a Political Comic)

    Now, come on, how many people here have negotiated with terrorists as well as GOP Senators? We may not have enough insight into this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: You must work in a restaurant or maybe a yard crew cutting yards in neighborhoods because if you have worked for any company making less than 250K you’re probably scared about your future and should be or either one of these two jobs have your back and your vested future is looking bright because you believe to tax small businesses will help. I live in my means and so should you liberal lunatics! Quit spending my money, get a job and pay for it because the republicans are sick of supporting you democrats and we are kicking you out of the house!

    I made more money today than you made in the last 30 days. I pay more in taxes in one year than you make in three. Don’t worry about me, I’ll be fine.

  • Atticus Draco

    Elaine B said:
    Atticus, perhaps you were being sarcastic but how could anyone be proud of being a Republican during these times?

    I want every democrat to come out of the negotiations
    and cry to their more than accommodating leftest media and exclaim
    “IT HURTS!”
    “Republicans refuse to use a lubricant,, they instead insist on using SAND!”

    WHEN I HEAR A DEMOCRAT CRY LIKE Menedez
    IT’S A F’n BADGE OF HONOR

    GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY
    IT’S NOT YOURS!!!
    I DONT CARE IF THE GUY IS A MULTI MILLIONAIRE
    IT’S NOT THE GOVERNMENTS
    GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE AWARDED THIS MONEY!!
    THEY’VE BEEN DOING A SHITTY JOB WITH IT FOR DECADES

  • Elaine B

    Oh and dim wit, “Notsosmart”,

    If that is your interpretation of what happened on 11/2/2010 then you have been only listening to Fox. That is not what actually happened.

    More people are becoming unemployed by the day and losing their homes. Having trouble feeding their family’s and most are not informed on HOW this came to be. So they blamed Congress and the Senate. And rightfully so!

    Again for the last 4 years the Republicans in congress have DONE NOTHING TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ONLY THE SPECIAL INTEREST WHO ARE PAYING THEM!

    Please, please try to learn what is really going!! PLEASE get Smart!!! All Americans are being effected by the ignorance of people like you.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    notsofast said:
    calling you an idiot would be an insult to idiots.

    Look, paying homage to “A Fish Called Wanda” is all good. But you need to be a tad more creative, like “calling you dumber than a box of rocks is an insult to the box.” You know, shake it up a bit.

    Jackass.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
    Now, come on, how many people here have negotiated with terrorists as well as GOP Senators? We may not have enough insight into this.

    Good point! lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Bill Adkins said:
    Fact: Republicans delivered this Great Recession cum Great Depression 2.0 by adding $6.5 trillion to the national debt 2001-FY 2009; $10 trillion of our current $10 trillion of our currrent $13+ trillion national debt accrued under Reagan and Bush 1 and 2; 2001-2009 unemployment doubled, tax receipts dimiinshed to the lowest level since the Great Depression 1, the market crashed, foreclosures hit record levels, banks closed … and the GOP a/k/a Giant Organization of Pricks regard that as success. Heckuva effing job.

    Oh, and I left out this fact — this came after implementation of the Bush tax cuts. Failure – it’s a Republican tradition.

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    If that is your interpretation of what happened on 11/2/2010 then you have been only listening to Fox. That is not what actually happened.

    My interpretation?

    No BHO’s and every news commentator, you stupid cow.

    Paul Westlake said:
    Look, paying homage to “A Fish Called Wanda” is all good. But you need to be a tad more creative, like “calling you dumber than a box of rocks is an insult to the box.” You know, shake it up a bit.

    Jackass.

    Kiss my ass , retard!

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    Oh, and I left out this fact — this came after implementation of the Bush tax cuts. Failure – it’s a Republican tradition.

    Hey, asshole, Barry got in in Jan 2009- break that down and live with it, you lying jerk.

    And this happened in 2010, shitforbrains:

    Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget
    $3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swift
    February 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

    Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion, includes a big jobs program and rolls back Bush-era tax cuts for high-income Americans. The president sidestepped any major attack on chronic deficits, which would not drop below $700 billion in the next several years.

    Sales of existing homes plunged in July
    Record drop of 27 percent to the lowest level since 1995
    By ALAN ZIBEL, J.W. ELPHINSTONE
    updated 8/24/2010 6:56:56 PM ET

    WASHINGTON — Sales of previously occupied homes plunged last month to the lowest level in 15 years, despite the lowest mortgage rates in decades and bargain prices in many areas.
    July’s sales fell by more than 27 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 3.83 million, the National Association of Realtors said Tuesday. It was the largest monthly drop on records dating back to 1968, and sharp declines were recorded in all regions of the country.

    Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t Data
    Wednesday, September 08, 2010
    By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404

    (CNSNews.com) – In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.

    Record number in government anti-poverty programs
    Updated 8/30/2010 9:25 AM By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
    WASHINGTON — Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand.

    Posted on Fri, Oct. 15, 2010
    Record number of foreclosures in Sept. But, why?

    McClatchy Newspapers
    In a new foreclosure crisis that has gone national, attorneys general in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have launched a sweeping probe of the country’s lenders, even as new figures showed banks repossessed a record number of homes in September.

    Record number of Americans living in poverty

    MSNBC.com
    September 16, 2010
    Record number of Americans living in poverty
    Census Bureau says 43.6 million people in 2009, up near 4 million in a year
    WASHINGTON — The number of people living in poverty in America rose by nearly 4 million to 43.6 million in 2009 — the largest figure in the 51 years for which poverty estimates are available — the Census Bureau said Thursday.

    Now kindly STFU, you Obama apologist, and stop lying for that loser you loser!

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    Again for the last 4 years the Republicans in congress have DONE NOTHING TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ONLY THE SPECIAL INTEREST WHO ARE PAYING THEM!

    Dims have controlled Congress since 2007!

    man, you Adkins and Paul Westlake do the work of 3 men- 3 men- The 3 Stooges-

    LOL

  • timzank

    Bill Adkins said:
    Fact: Republicans delivered this Great Recession cum Great Depression 2.0 by adding $6.5 trillion to the national debt 2001-FY 2009; $10 trillion of our current $10 trillion of our currrent $13+ trillion national debt accrued under Reagan and Bush 1 and 2; 2001-2009 unemployment doubled, tax receipts dimiinshed to the lowest level since the Great Depression 1, the market crashed, foreclosures hit record levels, banks closed … and the GOP a/k/a Giant Organization of Pricks regard that as success. Heckuva effing job.

    Funny opinion piece there Clarence Darrow, try using real statistics next time. We aren’t a jury that has to listen to you lie.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Atticus Draco said:
    GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY
    IT’S NOT YOURS!!!

    Agreed. I want to keep my money in New York, too. No more taxes of any kind. New Yorkers will do just fine without any “help” from the federal government because we pay for everything anyway. We pay to pave our own roads, pay to build our own bridges and tunnels, pay to increase our own water supply, and with the money left over, we pay for everything the red states refuse to pay for themselves, while sitting around getting high and having children out of wedlock. So please, win this argument. Stop all forms of taxation and let New York and California keep their money for a change. While we’re at it, I’m also in favor of making sure conservatives have to stay in the red states of their birth. They can’t gut their own states and then move to New York because there’s no work back at home. You want pure libertarianism, fine. Just stay put! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • timzank

    Elaine B said:
    If that is your interpretation of what happened on 11/2/2010 then you have been only listening to Fox. That is not what actually happened.

    You dispute the results of an historic election?

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    notsofast said:
    Dims have controlled Congress since 2007!

    Yep, with a Presidential veto for two years and a permanent GOP filibuster for the rest. You’re not fooling anyone, frizzy. And, nobody gives a shit what you think. And when I say “nobody, ” I mean NOBODY. If you could get anyone to listen to your hysterical ravings at home, you wouldn’t spend so much time spewing it here!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bill Adkins said:
    I made more money today than you made in the last 30 days. I pay more in taxes in one year than you make in three. Don’t worry about me, I’ll be fine.

    Adkins is a moonshiner in Kentucky , married to his cousin Honeybee . You better start paying taxes , Adkins . The revenooers are a closin ‘ in .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    timzank said:
    Funny opinion piece there Clarence Darrow, try using real statistics next time. We aren’t a jury that has to listen to you lie.

    Each and every statement I made is fact, dickweed – I challenge you to prove otherwise. I’ll be listening to crickets as you babble.

  • notsofast

    Paul Westlake said:
    Yep, with a Presidential veto for two years and a permanent GOP filibuster for the rest.

    Override the veto, shitforbrains.

  • notsofast

    Paul Westlake said:
    And, nobody gives a shit what you think. And when I say “nobody, ” I mean NOBODY. If you could get anyone to listen to your hysterical ravings at home

    Paul, explain all your down thumbs, you rancid POS.

  • timzank

    notsofast said:
    Dims have controlled Congress since 2007! man, you Adkins and Paul Westlake do the work of 3 men- 3 men- The 3 Stooges- LOL

    Isn’t that hilarious how these yutz’s don’t even realize THEY were in charge? THEY controlled the House, Senate, and The White House and all they had an epic fail. How fucking stupid do you have to be to control all 3 branches of government and STILL tank the country??????

    Talk about inept.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Adkins is a moonshiner in Kentucky , married to his cousin Honeybee . You better start paying taxes , Adkins . The revenooers are a closin ‘ in .

    Have you collected your quota of aluminum cans today? I doubt it.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    timzank said:
    You dispute the results of an historic election?

    All elections are “historic.” But as far as “momentous” goes, 2010 was a collective shrug compared to the wave that broke in 2008. The collective shrug is owed to two things: intractable GOP filibusters and weak Democratic responses to GOP games. A pox on all houses lowers turnout, and leads to collective shrugs. That was 2010. You want to talk about a “mandate” election, look at 2008.

  • Atticus Draco

    Paul Westlake said:
    Paul Westlake says:
    December 4, 2010 at 5:23 pm Paul Westlake(Quote)
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    Atticus Draco said:
    GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY
    IT’S NOT YOURS!!!

    Agreed. I want to keep my money in New York, too

    That is a major concern of mine,, California for one,,
    i dont wanna bail their liberal asses out!
    “You wanna wreck your state up with liberal policies,, DEAL WITH IT!”
    I DONT WANNA PAY FOR IT!

    BEING LIBERAL HAS SEVER CONSEQUENCES!!
    IT ALWAYS MEANS YOU ARE GONNA BE BROKE!!

  • timzank

    Bill Adkins said:
    Each and every statement I made is fact, dickweed – I challenge you to prove otherwise. I’ll be listening to crickets as you babble.

    You are delirious. Do me a favor and hold your breath too.

  • Atticus Draco

    Atticus Draco said:
    That is a major concern of mine,, California for one,,
    i dont wanna bail their liberal asses out!
    “You wanna wreck your state up with liberal policies,, DEAL WITH IT!”
    I DONT WANNA PAY FOR IT!

    BEING LIBERAL HAS SEVER CONSEQUENCES!!
    IT ALWAYS MEANS YOU ARE GONNA BE BROKE!!

    severe consequences

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    notsofast said:
    Override the veto, shitforbrains.

    notsofast said:
    Paul, explain all your down thumbs, you rancid POS.

    Getting a tad hysterical, little girl. Not to mention the massive vacuum between your ears. Keep it up, frizzy. You make this easy! ;-)

  • notsofast

    timzank said:
    Isn’t that hilarious how these yutz’s don’t even realize THEY were in charge? THEY controlled the House, Senate, and The White House and all they had an epic fail. How fucking stupid do you have to be to control all 3 branches of government and STILL tank the country??????

    Talk about inept.

    It is hysterical to watch these crybaby libs cry because they are such failures.

    Hey, what do ya expect when you have a fking Community Organizer in the WH.

    Those stupid libs fell for his “We are the ones we have been waiting for” and this is the time “the oceans will recede” and “the Earth will begin to heal.”

    LMAO

    They bought his crap!

    LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Bill Adkins said:
    Fact: Republicans delivered this Great Recession cum Great Depression 2.0 by adding $6.5 trillion to the national debt 2001-FY 2009; $10 trillion of our current $10 trillion of our currrent $13+ trillion national debt accrued under Reagan and Bush 1 and 2; 2001-2009 unemployment doubled, tax receipts dimiinshed to the lowest level since the Great Depression 1, the market crashed, foreclosures hit record levels, banks closed … and the GOP a/k/a Giant Organization of Pricks regard that as success. Heckuva effing job.

    And all this was a direct result of failed Republican fiscal policies, the crown jewel of whch were the Bush Tax Cuts – never has something failed so spectacularly as did the failed policies of the Republicans that delivered what may yet be the Great Depression 2.0. The Bushvilles, the breadlines, the sad songs like “Brother can you spare a dime” — delivered by those same happy crappy folks who brought you the first Great Depression, the Republican Party!! Give the a big round of Bronx Cheers!!

  • notsofast

    Paul Westlake said:
    Paul Westlake says:
    December 4, 2010 at 5:30 pm Paul Westlake(Quote)
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    LOL!

    I love it the retard can’t refute anything I posted!

  • Elaine B

    Notsosmart,

    Did you take your meds today?

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Atticus Draco said:
    That is a major concern of mine,, California for one,,
    i dont wanna bail their liberal asses out!
    “You wanna wreck your state up with liberal policies,, DEAL WITH IT!”
    I DONT WANNA PAY FOR IT!

    BEING LIBERAL HAS SEVER CONSEQUENCES!!
    IT ALWAYS MEANS YOU ARE GONNA BE BROKE!!

    Yeah, tell that to the liberals on Martha’s Vineyard, or in the Hamptons, or in Fairfield County, CT. They ALL make more money than you, kiddo. LOTS more money. And they mostly vote Dem. Dig it!

    As for your bankruptcy fears, look to the red states for where all the money s going. California and New York send much more to Washington than we get in return. Red states are the mooches. Big time! Or have you never heard of “rural electrification” or “rural broadband?” You think Wyoming can afford that on its own? Hey, if you do, awesome. Stop taking my money! K? Cool! ;-)

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    Elaine B says:
    December 4, 2010 at 5:32 pm Elaine B(Quote)

    I’m busy now; can I ignore ya later, dear?

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    notsofast said:
    LOL!

    I love it the retard can’t refute anything I posted!

    Refute what? That you’re an idiot? Why would I try to refute that? HAHAHAHAHA

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    timzank said:
    You are delirious. Do me a favor and hold your breath too.

    More death wishes from the charmers on the right. When are we gonna see you put your guns where your mouth is, Rambo? When are you gonna do the “right” thing and start killing liberals wholesale? If we’re such evil and despicable people, why do you let us live at all? I don’t get it! Didn’t Scott Roeder teach you anything!? Live by your convictions or admit that you’re a coward. Can’t have it both ways, tough guy.

  • Elaine B

    timzank says:

    Elaine B said:
    If that is your interpretation of what happened on 11/2/2010 then you have been only listening to Fox. That is not what actually happened.

    You dispute the results of an historic election?

    Are you referring to the historic election in 2008?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    notsofast said:
    LOL! I love it the retard can’t refute anything I posted!

    What’s to refudiate? All you did was list several results of failed Republican policies. You’re just too stupid to follow the chronology of events and have fooled yourself into believing you have a point.

  • notsofast

    Paul Westlake said:
    Yeah, tell that to the liberals on Martha’s Vineyard, or in the Hamptons, or in Fairfield County, CT. They ALL make more money than you, kiddo. LOTS more money. And they mostly vote Dem. Dig it!

    LOL

    And all those states are in the top 10 of states with big deficits, you retard.

    Man, are you dumb. I wish you had gotten some oxygen at birth.

    http://www-958.ibm.com/software/data/cognos/manyeyes/visualizations/state-deficits-for-2010

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    What’s to refudiate? All you did was list several results of failed Republican policies. You’re just too stupid to follow the chronology of events and have fooled yourself into believing you have a point.

    Thes are Republican policies?

    LMAO

    You are a retarded cretin!

    Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget
    $3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swift
    February 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

    Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion, includes a big jobs program and rolls back Bush-era tax cuts for high-income Americans. The president sidestepped any major attack on chronic deficits, which would not drop below $700 billion in the next several years.

    Sales of existing homes plunged in July
    Record drop of 27 percent to the lowest level since 1995
    By ALAN ZIBEL, J.W. ELPHINSTONE
    updated 8/24/2010 6:56:56 PM ET

    WASHINGTON — Sales of previously occupied homes plunged last month to the lowest level in 15 years, despite the lowest mortgage rates in decades and bargain prices in many areas.
    July’s sales fell by more than 27 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 3.83 million, the National Association of Realtors said Tuesday. It was the largest monthly drop on records dating back to 1968, and sharp declines were recorded in all regions of the country.

    Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t Data
    Wednesday, September 08, 2010
    By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404

    (CNSNews.com) – In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.

    Record number in government anti-poverty programs
    Updated 8/30/2010 9:25 AM By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
    WASHINGTON — Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand.

    Posted on Fri, Oct. 15, 2010
    Record number of foreclosures in Sept. But, why?

    McClatchy Newspapers
    In a new foreclosure crisis that has gone national, attorneys general in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have launched a sweeping probe of the country’s lenders, even as new figures showed banks repossessed a record number of homes in September.

    Record number of Americans living in poverty

    MSNBC.com
    September 16, 2010
    Record number of Americans living in poverty
    Census Bureau says 43.6 million people in 2009, up near 4 million in a year
    WASHINGTON — The number of people living in poverty in America rose by nearly 4 million to 43.6 million in 2009 — the largest figure in the 51 years for which poverty estimates are available — the Census Bureau said Thursday.

    Now kindly STFU, you Obama apologist, and stop lying for that loser you loser!

    November Unemployment jumps to 17 month high!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LOL

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    Are you referring to the historic election in 2008?

    You ARE that dumb.

  • notsofast

    Paul Westlake said:
    Refute what? That you’re an idiot? Why would I try to refute that? HAHAHAHAHA

    Refute this:

    Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget
    $3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swift
    February 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

    Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion, includes a big jobs program and rolls back Bush-era tax cuts for high-income Americans. The president sidestepped any major attack on chronic deficits, which would not drop below $700 billion in the next several years.

    Sales of existing homes plunged in July
    Record drop of 27 percent to the lowest level since 1995
    By ALAN ZIBEL, J.W. ELPHINSTONE
    updated 8/24/2010 6:56:56 PM ET

    WASHINGTON — Sales of previously occupied homes plunged last month to the lowest level in 15 years, despite the lowest mortgage rates in decades and bargain prices in many areas.
    July’s sales fell by more than 27 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 3.83 million, the National Association of Realtors said Tuesday. It was the largest monthly drop on records dating back to 1968, and sharp declines were recorded in all regions of the country.

    Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t Data
    Wednesday, September 08, 2010
    By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404

    (CNSNews.com) – In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.

    Record number in government anti-poverty programs
    Updated 8/30/2010 9:25 AM By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
    WASHINGTON — Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand.

    Posted on Fri, Oct. 15, 2010
    Record number of foreclosures in Sept. But, why?

    McClatchy Newspapers
    In a new foreclosure crisis that has gone national, attorneys general in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have launched a sweeping probe of the country’s lenders, even as new figures showed banks repossessed a record number of homes in September.

    Record number of Americans living in poverty

    MSNBC.com
    September 16, 2010
    Record number of Americans living in poverty
    Census Bureau says 43.6 million people in 2009, up near 4 million in a year
    WASHINGTON — The number of people living in poverty in America rose by nearly 4 million to 43.6 million in 2009 — the largest figure in the 51 years for which poverty estimates are available — the Census Bureau said Thursday.

    Now kindly STFU, you Obama apologist, and stop lying for that loser you loser!

    November Unemployment jumps to 17 month high!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LOL

  • notsofast

    You libs are cretins, dullards and buffoons!

  • Just4thefax

    Elaine B said:
    Not4fox, I sure wish you new what you were saying. It would make trying to have a discussion with you so much easier.

    Fact: That’s why it’s important to have English as the National language to pass so you left nuts can follow and get the facts straight.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bill Adkins said:
    I made more money today than you made in the last 30 days. I pay more in taxes in one year than you make in three. Don’t worry about me, I’ll be fine.

    We’uns back at the homeplace is expectin’ the biggest wingding in years in Grant county , and Billy Ray gon’ pay fer it . Yee-haw ! Brang yer banjos ,folks .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    notsofast said:
    Thes are Republican policies? LMAO You are a retarded cretin! Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget$3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swiftFebruary 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion, includes a big jobs program and rolls back Bush-era tax cuts for high-income Americans. The president sidestepped any major attack on chronic deficits, which would not drop below $700 billion in the next several years. Sales of existing homes plunged in JulyRecord drop of 27 percent to the lowest level since 1995By ALAN ZIBEL, J.W. ELPHINSTONEupdated 8/24/2010 6:56:56 PM ET WASHINGTON — Sales of previously occupied homes plunged last month to the lowest level in 15 years, despite the lowest mortgage rates in decades and bargain prices in many areas.July’s sales fell by more than 27 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 3.83 million, the National Association of Realtors said Tuesday. It was the largest monthly drop on records dating back to 1968, and sharp declines were recorded in all regions of the country. Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t DataWednesday, September 08, 2010By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chiefhttp://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404 (CNSNews.com) – In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan. Record number in government anti-poverty programsUpdated 8/30/2010 9:25 AM By Richard Wolf, USA TODAYWASHINGTON — Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand. Posted on Fri, Oct. 15, 2010Record number of foreclosures in Sept. But, why? McClatchy NewspapersIn a new foreclosure crisis that has gone national, attorneys general in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have launched a sweeping probe of the country’s lenders, even as new figures showed banks repossessed a record number of homes in September. Record number of Americans living in poverty• MSNBC.comSeptember 16, 2010Record number of Americans living in povertyCensus Bureau says 43.6 million people in 2009, up near 4 million in a yearWASHINGTON — The number of people living in poverty in America rose by nearly 4 million to 43.6 million in 2009 — the largest figure in the 51 years for which poverty estimates are available — the Census Bureau said Thursday. Now kindly STFU, you Obama apologist, and stop lying for that loser you loser! November Unemployment jumps to 17 month high!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

    No, dumbass – those are the RESULTS of Republican policies. Get your head out of your ass a few minutes each day. The air will do you some good. But brush your tooth.

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    Fact: Republicans delivered this Great Recession cum Great Depression 2.0 by adding $6.5 trillion to the national debt 2001-FY 2009; $10 trillion of our current $10 trillion of our currrent $13+ trillion national debt accrued under Reagan and Bush 1 and 2; 2001-2009 unemployment doubled, tax receipts dimiinshed to the lowest level since the Great Depression 1, the market crashed, foreclosures hit record levels, banks closed … and the GOP a/k/a Giant Organization of Pricks regard that as success. Heckuva effing job.

    Fact: Srarts and ends here.
    http://www.smallgovtimes.com/2010/11/what-caused-the-financial-crisis/
    Still stuck on a stupid loop asshole!

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    I made more money today than you made in the last 30 days. I pay more in taxes in one year than you make in three. Don’t worry about me, I’ll be fine.

    Fact: With your post. No way! How much do handouts make in a day?

  • Alz

    Bill Adkins said:
    And all this was a direct result of failed Republican fiscal policies, the crown jewel of whch were the Bush Tax Cuts – never has something failed so spectacularly as did the failed policies of the Republicans that delivered what may yet be the Great Depression 2.0. The Bushvilles, the breadlines, the sad songs like “Brother can you spare a dime” — delivered by those same happy crappy folks who brought you the first Great Depression, the Republican Party!! Give the a big round of Bronx Cheers!!

    Sorry, liberalism, whether practiced by Republicans or Democrats, always leads to problems. Bush got liberal with spending and now we have Obama going berserk with spending, regulations, attacks on business, etc.

    This is why everything looks so bleak. Liberalism IS bleak. I think people realize that the election is not enough and it will take a lot more effort to stop to liberals.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Srarts and ends here.http://www.smallgovtimes.com/2010/11/what-caused-the-financial-crisis/Still stuck on a stupid loop asshole!

    You don’t have to announce your still stuck on a stupid loop asshole – it’s more than obvious. The Republican clusterfuck machine delivered this mess.

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    No, dumbass – those are the RESULTS of Republican policies. Get your head out of your ass a few minutes each day. The air will do you some good. But brush your tooth.

    Crawl back to your sewer, you Obama apologist.

  • Just4thefax

    Elaine B said:
    Oh and dim wit, “Notsosmart”, If that is your interpretation of what happened on 11/2/2010 then you have been only listening to Fox. That is not what actually happened. More people are becoming unemployed by the day and losing their homes. Having trouble feeding their family’s and most are not informed on HOW this came to be. So they blamed Congress and the Senate. And rightfully so! Again for the last 4 years the Republicans in congress have DONE NOTHING TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ONLY THE SPECIAL INTEREST WHO ARE PAYING THEM! Please, please try to learn what is really going!! PLEASE get Smart!!! All Americans are being effected by the ignorance of people like you.

    Fact: Democrats are the lawyers party and it’s the lawyers soaking it up now in this climate. That’s democrat’s climate change for you. Change you can count on! uuumm uuummm uuuummm Obama!

  • Elaine B

    FACT: Lawyers are both D and R and they are equally spread.
    FACT: Where the hell do you get your FACTS?!!
    FACT: There are more Repos taking money from the lobbyist the Dems
    FACT: There are major problems with our climate change today but special interest have Repos payed off on this.
    FACT: Your too stupid to realize any of this

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    Oh, and I left out this fact — this came after implementation of the Bush tax cuts. Failure – it’s a Republican tradition.

    Fact: Again democratic tradition that led to the great depression that they are trying to relive today be trying to repeat history. Read the following. D-baggers.
    Social Issues
    In the summer of 1907, the American economy was showing signs of weakness as a number of business and Wall Street brokerages went bankrupt. In October, the respected Knickerbocker Trust in New York City and the ¹Westinghouse Electric Company both failed, touching off a series of events known as the Panic of 1907.

    In the wake of the initial business collapses, stock market prices plummeted and depositors made a massive run on the nation’s banks. The U.S. Treasury pumped millions of dollars into weak banks in the hope of saving them, but the string of collapsed institutions lengthened.

    In a reprise of his role during the second Cleveland administration when the gold standard was under assault, J.P. Morgan acted to restore order. He summoned the leading bankers and financial experts to his home where they set up shop in his library. Over the course of the next three weeks, Morgan and his associates labored to channel money from the strong institutions to the weaker ones in an effort to keep them afloat.

    The joint effort of the government and the business leaders improved conditions markedly over the course of several weeks. While the crisis passed, the finger-pointing began. Reform elements of both political parties believed that the American banking system was fundamentally flawed and needed wholesale change. Business leaders, however, held that Roosevelt’s progressive legislation had upset the natural order of the economy and the government should stop its meddling.

    Following the Panic of 1907, the reform elements gradually gained the upper hand. An emerging consensus affirmed that thorough bank reform was necessary to provide badly needed currency elasticity (a major issue in the Panic) and the general soundness of the banking system. Congress responded by passing stop-gap legislation, the Aldrich-Vreeland Act (1908), until more thorough actions could be prepared.

    With the passing of the Owen-Glass Federal Reserve Act of 1913, the Federal Reserve System was created. The “Fed” was designed to be flexible and responsive to the economy and independent of politics. The Fed has evolved through the years by implementing many strict checks and balances. New departments, the General Accounting Office, GAO, and the Office of Management & Budget, OMB, were created to audit the Fed and most other government departments. As a result, the American economy, and American society are more stable.

    ——————————————————————————–

    See other Theodore Roosevelt domestic activity.

    1: Westinghouse Electric was the victim of foul business practices by J.P. Morgan. Morgan controlled General Electric and Thomas Edison’s Direct Current, (DC) electrical patents. He contended with Westinghouse Electric, who controlled Nicola Tesla’s Alternating Current, (AC) electrical patents. Morgan and Edison strove for control of all electrical power in America. Edison used deceptive demonstrations of the supposed increased dangers of AC and Morgan had spread rumors in Wall Street that Westinghouse was insolvent, causing Westinghouse stock to collapse, along with the stock of the Westinghouse backers.

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    Are you referring to the historic election in 2008?

    He said “historical” election, not the “hysterical” one.

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: With your post. No way! How much do handouts make in a day?

    Fact: You are living proof that the public education system has failed.

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    Yep, with a Presidential veto for two years and a permanent GOP filibuster for the rest. You’re not fooling anyone, frizzy. And, nobody gives a shit what you think. And when I say “nobody, ” I mean NOBODY. If you could get anyone to listen to your hysterical ravings at home, you wouldn’t spend so much time spewing it here! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Fact: Get the government tit out of your mouth when you post so it might resemble English!

  • Elaine B

    BREAKING: Senate Republicans just obstructed a Democratic bill to end George W. Bush’s tax cuts for the richest Americans

    Way to go Republicans!! Screw Americans! Hey!!!!

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    No, dumbass – those are the RESULTS of Republican policies. Get your head out of your ass a few minutes each day. The air will do you some good. But brush your tooth.

    You a a lying sack of crap.

    The Dims have controlled the Congress for 4- count ‘em, 4 years and the Executive branch for 2 years.

    So stop your phony “it’s the Repub policies” crap. You are a coward, scoundrel, lib shill and POS who should be caned!

  • Elaine B

    I SAY DON’T PASS ANY BILL AND IT WILL BE OVER IN JANUARY ANY WAY!

  • Just4thefax

    SarahP said:
    Fact: You are living proof that the public education system has failed.

    Fact: I was paid to tutor in college but some like you can’t be helped. Look just making it to every class gets some thru it though. Hope that helps.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Adkins is a moonshiner in Kentucky , married to his cousin Honeybee . You better start paying taxes , Adkins . The revenooers are a closin ‘ in .

    No, that’s not me. You’ve mistaken me for a Kentuckian who voted for Rand Paul. Those are the ones whose mothers are their aunts. But then you’d know about that since your dad is your uncle.

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    BREAKING: Senate Republicans just obstructed a Democratic bill to end George W. Bush’s tax cuts for the richest Americans

    Way to go Republicans!! Screw Americans! Hey!!!!

    You are truly a moron and a liar. That was not for ALL Americans.

    The Repubs will force the Community Organizer and his Dim shills to extend ALL cuts to ALL Americans- even the most successful ones!

  • Just4thefax

    Elaine B said:
    I SAY DON’T PASS ANY BILL AND IT WILL BE OVER IN JANUARY ANY WAY!

    Fact: Don’t worry early next year it will pass under new elected take office that will make it retro-active. That’s why the Boner called it chickenshit! hehehe I put down a boner for you Elaine!

  • notsofast

    SarahP said:
    Fact: You are living proof that the public education system has failed.

    Fact: You are proof shit can grow hands and type.

  • Cecelia

    Paul Westlake said:
    When the history books are written about the end of America’s greatness, it is conservatives who will be cast in the role of villain, not the liberals who created and nurtured this country from inception. You have always tried to tear us apart… and you’re finally going to get your way. Congratulations.

    Paul, I’m going to tell you something that you may find hard to believe…. but it’s true any way.

    It’s been rather easy to be have a ball and enjoy a good life in this wonderful and great country. No matter which political party is in charge. It still is and will be in the future too.

    You’re taking things waaayyy too seriously.

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: I was paid to tutor in college but some like you can’t be helped. Look just making it to every class gets some thru it though. Hope that helps.

    Where, Bob’s college? LOL!!

  • skyfet

    @notsofast
    It appears to me this character(notsofast) is recommended decapitation of a sitting Unite States Senator. Whose side are you on? Are you with us or the Terrorists?

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    The majority of Americans want the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich to expire. Republicans should listen to the American people.

  • Cecelia

    skyfet said:
    Whose side are you on? Are you with us or the Terrorists?

    Depends on who has the best canapes.

  • Cecelia

    Elaine B said:
    BREAKING: Senate Republicans just obstructed a Democratic bill to end George W. Bush’s tax cuts for the richest Americans

    Way to go Republicans!! Screw Americans! Hey!!!!

    Well, it’s settled then. Can we all make up and talk about the last episode of NCIS now?

  • Just4thefax

    SarahP said:
    Where, Bob’s college? LOL!!

    Fact: Dude, I gave Elaine a boner comment and you in one post have made me limp again.
    Bob’s college is above your grasp by the way. Dimbulbs need not apply!

  • Elaine B

    notsofast says:

    Bill Adkins said:
    No, dumbass – those are the RESULTS of Republican policies. Get your head out of your ass a few minutes each day. The air will do you some good. But brush your tooth.

    You a a lying sack of crap.

    The Dims have controlled the Congress for 4- count ‘em, 4 years and the Executive branch for 2 years.

    So stop your phony “it’s the Repub policies” crap. You are a coward, scoundrel, lib shill and POS who should be caned!

    Hey not so bright, Adkins is correct, typical for a Repo to have their facts wrong, they told their “facts” or spoon feed their “Special Facts by Fox” lol

    The republican have had congress up until 2 years ago and again now. With the Republicans filibustering everything in the Senate they made it so we had to have 60 votes to get anything at all to pass the last 2 years and, in case you didn’t know this too, the 60 votes were not there. If you would like me to explain this to you further I would be happy to.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    notsofast said:
    Refute this:

    Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget
    $3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swift
    February 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

    Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion, includes a big jobs program and rolls back Bush-era tax cuts for high-income Americans. The president sidestepped any major attack on chronic deficits, which would not drop below $700 billion in the next several years.

    Sales of existing homes plunged in July
    Record drop of 27 percent to the lowest level since 1995
    By ALAN ZIBEL, J.W. ELPHINSTONE
    updated 8/24/2010 6:56:56 PM ET

    WASHINGTON — Sales of previously occupied homes plunged last month to the lowest level in 15 years, despite the lowest mortgage rates in decades and bargain prices in many areas.
    July’s sales fell by more than 27 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 3.83 million, the National Association of Realtors said Tuesday. It was the largest monthly drop on records dating back to 1968, and sharp declines were recorded in all regions of the country.

    Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t Data
    Wednesday, September 08, 2010
    By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404

    (CNSNews.com) – In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.

    Record number in government anti-poverty programs
    Updated 8/30/2010 9:25 AM By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
    WASHINGTON — Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand.

    Posted on Fri, Oct. 15, 2010
    Record number of foreclosures in Sept. But, why?

    McClatchy Newspapers
    In a new foreclosure crisis that has gone national, attorneys general in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have launched a sweeping probe of the country’s lenders, even as new figures showed banks repossessed a record number of homes in September.

    Record number of Americans living in poverty

    MSNBC.com
    September 16, 2010
    Record number of Americans living in poverty
    Census Bureau says 43.6 million people in 2009, up near 4 million in a year
    WASHINGTON — The number of people living in poverty in America rose by nearly 4 million to 43.6 million in 2009 — the largest figure in the 51 years for which poverty estimates are available — the Census Bureau said Thursday.

    Now kindly STFU, you Obama apologist, and stop lying for that loser you loser!

    November Unemployment jumps to 17 month high!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LOL

    75% of the current deficit is owed 100% to conservative policies of the Bush admin. Clinton left a surplus, Bush turned it into a deficit. Bush took us to two unnecessary wars, pushed through two massive tax cuts and one prescription drug benefit, none of which was actually paid for. The housing crisis was caused by conservative deregulation of government-backed paper. This is all as obvious as the point on top of your head, pinhead. Chronologically you may be right, but causation is entirely conservative. 100%. EVERYONE knows that except the whining babies on the right.

    You spend a lot of time telling people to “STFU, you POS!” I know you don’t like having your stupidity revealed for everyone to see, but that’s the way it goes when you’re a total fucking moron. Sorry, kid. Suck it up.

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Dude, I gave Elaine a boner comment and you in one post have made me limp again.
    Bob’s college is above your grasp by the way. Dimbulbs need not apply!

    As I said before just4idiots, you are naturally limp and a sad and pathetic example of the failure of public education. Put in terms that even you (maybe) can understand – you’re an idiot.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Cecelia said:
    Paul, I’m going to tell you something that you may find hard to believe…. but it’s true any way.

    It’s been rather easy to be have a ball and enjoy a good life in this wonderful and great country. No matter which political party is in charge. It still is and will be in the future too.

    You’re taking things waaayyy too seriously.

    You think this is all a fucking game? You think people wondering if they’ll be homeless in a month are having fun? You think raping our the middle class and allowing half the nation’s wealth to be held by the wealthiest 1% is funny-ha-ha!? You think this is some fucking form of entertainment? Yes, of course you do, because you watch Fox “News,” the entertainment channel. When the whole world is presented to you as just another form of entertainment, and you swallow that whole, it makes sense that you’d think people who decry the status quo would be taking things “too seriously.” What a callous, unfunny joke you are.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    notsofast said:
    And all those states are in the top 10 of states with big deficits, you retard.

    No shit, Sherlock. They have deficits because the red states don’t pay their own way and depend on taxpayers form blue states to make up the difference. You really are the stupidest person alive. Probably an ugly fuck, too.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Thanks Newt Gingrich the author behind the balance budget amendment policies that were forced on Clinton to get the budget balanced!

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Thanks Newt Gingrich the author behind the balance budget amendment policies that were forced on Clinton to get the budget balanced!

    Fact: you are a limp idiot.

  • Just4thefax

    SarahP said:
    As I said before just4idiots, you are naturally limp and a sad and pathetic example of the failure of public education. Put in terms that even you (maybe) can understand – you’re an idiot.

    Fact: Oh baby keep talking dirty to me!

  • Just4thefax

    SarahP said:
    Fact: you are a limp idiot.

    Fact: You got it stroking now baby!

  • Cecelia

    Paul Westlake said:
    it makes sense that you’d think people who decry the status quo would be taking things “too seriously.” What a callous, unfunny joke you are.

    Well, glad you’re encouraged…

    (Check!…)

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: You got it stroking now baby!

    Fact: You are still a limp idiot who not matter the stroke will still be limp…and an idiot. Baby.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Thanks Newt Gingrich the author behind the balance budget amendment policies that were forced on Clinton to get the budget balanced!

    Clinton’s plan to reduce the deficit – it was actually a campaign promise. And unlike GOP Presidents, he actually kept his campaign promise on that one. The balanced budget amendment was kicking around for decades by the time Gingrich championed it, and then abandoned it. The balanced budget was entirely Clinton, kids. Just another example of liberal policy being claimed after the fact by conservatives. It what you’re reduced to doing when you have no original thoughts… ever! LOL!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    The CBO called it – but actual FY 2009 budget deficit wa $1.42 trillion. “Those costs, combined with falling tax collections, are expected to drive the deficit to $1.2 trillion this year, or 8.3 percent of the overall economy — the largest budget gap as a percentage of gross domestic product since 1945.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/07/AR2009010701156.html

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    No shit, Sherlock. They have deficits because the red states don’t pay their own way and depend on taxpayers form blue states to make up the difference. You really are the stupidest person alive. Probably an ugly fuck, too.

    Fact: Blue states; California gets no bailout, New York gets no bailout, New Jersey gets no bailout and Illinois gets no bailout. Red states will take care of their own and will not rescue the four worst debtor states!

  • SarahP

    Paul Westlake said:
    Clinton’s plan to reduce the deficit – it was actually a campaign promise. And unlike GOP Presidents, he actually kept his campaign promise on that one. The balanced budget amendment was kicking around for decades by the time Gingrich championed it, and then abandoned it. The balanced budget was entirely Clinton, kids. Just another example of liberal policy being claimed after the fact by conservatives. It what you’re reduced to doing when you have no original thoughts… ever! LOL!

    You’re talking way way above this idiots comprehension level.

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    The CBO called it – but actual FY 2009 budget deficit wa $1.42 trillion. “Those costs, combined with falling tax collections, are expected to drive the deficit to $1.2 trillion this year, or 8.3 percent of the overall economy — the largest budget gap as a percentage of gross domestic product since 1945.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/07/AR2009010701156.html

    Fact: All under Ozero’s account!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Hey, let’s not forget GNP dropping in 2008 for the first time since 1949! Gee, I wonder how THAT can be framed as Obama’s fault. C’mon, kids, let’s you flex those sophist muscles and hammer Obama on the 2008 GNP dip. Let’s see if you can pull that one off! HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Just4thefax

    SarahP said:
    You’re talking way way above this idiots comprehension level.

    Fact: Liberals have a genetic brain disorder that allows them to lie about their real surroundings that no medication can cure the proper neurons to fire. This disorder allows them to know so much that isn’t so, hear so much that isn’t said. Causes kleptomania for other people belongings just because they believe they deserve it. The liberal disease Causes severe lack to want to work for a living and a need and desire to want to live off others incomes.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Blue states; California gets no bailout, New York gets no bailout, New Jersey gets no bailout and Illinois gets no bailout. Red states will take care of their own and will not rescue the four worst debtor states!

    Fine with me! Remit payment of New York’s outstanding loans to:

    Michael Bloomberg, Mayor of New York City
    c/o NYC Dept of Finance
    66 John Street, 3rd Floor
    New York, NY 10038-3735

    Your cooperation is appreciated.

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    You think this is all a fucking game? You think people wondering if they’ll be homeless in a month are having fun? You think raping our the middle class and allowing half the nation’s wealth to be held by the wealthiest 1% is funny-ha-ha!? You think this is some fucking form of entertainment? Yes, of course you do, because you watch Fox “News,” the entertainment channel. When the whole world is presented to you as just another form of entertainment, and you swallow that whole, it makes sense that you’d think people who decry the status quo would be taking things “too seriously.” What a callous, unfunny joke you are.

    Fact: What they earn is theirs and what you earn is yours right or do you need a handout chickenshit!

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Liberals have a genetic brain disorder that allows them to lie about their real surroundings that no medication can cure the proper neurons to fire. This disorder allows them to know so much that isn’t so, hear so much that isn’t said. Causes kleptomania for other people belongings just because they believe they deserve it. The liberal disease Causes severe lack to want to work for a living and a need and desire to want to live off others incomes.

    Fact: You are still limp (naturally of course) and an idiot, Nothing will change that.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Conservative reactionaries, much like developmentally disabled children, have a genetic brain disorder that allows them to lie about their real surroundings that no medication can cure the proper neurons to fire.

    Fixed that for ya!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: What they earn is theirs and what you earn is yours right or do you need a handout chickenshit!

    Seriously, dude. All the money is earned in liberal states and confiscated by conservative state mooches. Look it up or continue to be the reactionary tool of stupidity you are.

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    Fine with me! Remit payment of New York’s outstanding loans to: Michael Bloomberg, Mayor of New York Cityc/o NYC Dept of Finance66 John Street, 3rd FloorNew York, NY 10038-3735 Your cooperation is appreciated.

    Fact: Your right you give to people who can’t pay you back like the blue states with their built in entitlements you get what you ask for. Nada, zilch, RedStates are not as dumb as Bloomberg!

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bill Adkins said:
    I made more money today than you made in the last 30 days. I pay more in taxes in one year than you make in three. Don’t worry about me, I’ll be fine.

    Plus , I’m married to Wynonna Judd , I was the main monkey in all the Planet of the Apes movies , and I’m a cowboy .

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Liberals have a genetic brain disorder that allows them to lie about their real surroundings that no medication can cure the proper neurons to fire. This disorder allows them to know so much that isn’t so, hear so much that isn’t said. Causes kleptomania for other people belongings just because they believe they deserve it. The liberal disease Causes severe lack to want to work for a living and a need and desire to want to live off others incomes.

    “…that no medication can cure the proper neurons to fire.”

    And this buffoon claims to be a college tutor. LMAO!!

  • skyfet

    @Just4thefax
    Texas was begging for some bailout money recently, after the Governor threatened to secede. It would be better for the nation for them to go, as they appear to be a very big liability.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    What Menendez said may at first seem a little over the top but he is right. The Republicans do not have the interest of america at heart. They are willing to destroy America to hurt Obama. They oppose him just to oppose him. They are playing a cynical game with poples lives. some of them claim to be Christians but they want to give tax breaks for the rich and not extend unemployment for those out of work in the worse economy since the depression. Their behavior is morally reprehensible. The sad part is there are so many middle Americans who are so unaware and obtuse that they buy into these right wing thugs in the Republican party. I do not what to hear a word about there supposed Christian values until they start practicing them.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Red States have right to work unions not force to be in unions like blue states that are killed by supporting them that is why business likes it in the south and rent and housing doesn’t have union cost built in to it dipshit! You kidding you really believe in what you post?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    SarahP said:
    “…that no medication can cure the proper neurons to fire.” And this buffoon claims to be a college tutor. LMAO!!

    It was clown college.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Red States have right to work unions not force to be in unions like blue states that are killed by supporting them that is why business likes it in the south and rent and housing doesn’t have union cost built in to it dipshit! You kidding you really believe in what you post?

    Sadly, Kentucky is a red state. For every dollar sent to the feds, KY gets back $1.52 – $1.84. You kidding you don’t know that?

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Red States have right to work unions not force to be in unions like blue states that are killed by supporting them that is why business likes it in the south and rent and housing doesn’t have union cost built in to it dipshit! You kidding you really believe in what you post?

    I take it you didn’t tutor college students in English. Bullshit I can understand, English, not so much.

  • SarahP

    Bill Adkins said:
    It was clown college.

    Maybe Glen Beck University. LOL!!

  • Just4thefax

    skyfet said:
    @Just4thefaxTexas was begging for some bailout money recently, after the Governor threatened to secede. It would be better for the nation for them to go, as they appear to be a very big liability.

    Fact: Texas has a balance budget law dipshit! They are the most productive state in the USA with jobs asshole. You need serious help! They by law can’t run into debt. Plus they don’t have a state income tax from your wages like a blue state!

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    notsofast said:
    Thes are Republican policies?

    LMAO

    You are a retarded cretin!

    Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget
    $3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swift
    February 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

    Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion, includes a big jobs program and rolls back Bush-era tax cuts for high-income Americans. The president sidestepped any major attack on chronic deficits, which would not drop below $700 billion in the next several years.

    Sales of existing homes plunged in July
    Record drop of 27 percent to the lowest level since 1995
    By ALAN ZIBEL, J.W. ELPHINSTONE
    updated 8/24/2010 6:56:56 PM ET

    WASHINGTON — Sales of previously occupied homes plunged last month to the lowest level in 15 years, despite the lowest mortgage rates in decades and bargain prices in many areas.
    July’s sales fell by more than 27 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 3.83 million, the National Association of Realtors said Tuesday. It was the largest monthly drop on records dating back to 1968, and sharp declines were recorded in all regions of the country.

    Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t Data
    Wednesday, September 08, 2010
    By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404

    (CNSNews.com) – In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.

    Record number in government anti-poverty programs
    Updated 8/30/2010 9:25 AM By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
    WASHINGTON — Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand.

    Posted on Fri, Oct. 15, 2010
    Record number of foreclosures in Sept. But, why?

    McClatchy Newspapers
    In a new foreclosure crisis that has gone national, attorneys general in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have launched a sweeping probe of the country’s lenders, even as new figures showed banks repossessed a record number of homes in September.

    Record number of Americans living in poverty

    MSNBC.com
    September 16, 2010
    Record number of Americans living in poverty
    Census Bureau says 43.6 million people in 2009, up near 4 million in a year
    WASHINGTON — The number of people living in poverty in America rose by nearly 4 million to 43.6 million in 2009 — the largest figure in the 51 years for which poverty estimates are available — the Census Bureau said Thursday.

    Now kindly STFU, you Obama apologist, and stop lying for that loser you loser!

    November Unemployment jumps to 17 month high!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LOL

    You conveniently forget that the stimulus package is what saved up from another great depression. That was Obama’s contribution ti the debt, saving our economy. But that might take some honesty from someone who is not capable of that. The economy was run into the ground during the Bush presidency. This is indisputable. The fact that the stimulus package kept us out of a second depression is also indisputable. We have some Herbert Hoover redux thinking here.

  • Just4thefax

    SarahP said:
    I take it you didn’t tutor college students in English. Bullshit I can understand, English, not so much.

    Fact: What?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Texas has a balance budget law dipshit! They are the most productive state in the USA with jobs asshole. You need serious help! They by law can’t run into debt. Plus they don’t have a state income tax from your wages like a blue state!

    Take away oil and Texas is nothing — In the ’70s Pike County Kentucky had the greatest per capita number of millionaires in the nation – then the Coal Boom went Bust. Your logic skills are non-existent.

  • Elaine B

    Just4thefax says:

    Elaine B said:
    I SAY DON’T PASS ANY BILL AND IT WILL BE OVER IN JANUARY ANY WAY!

    Fact: Don’t worry early next year it will pass under new elected take office that will make it retro-active. That’s why the Boner called it chickenshit! hehehe I put down a boner for you Elaine!

    He not4Fox,

    Boner wasn’t happy the other day and called it chickenshit because he wasn’t getting his way, dumbass.

    I guess you might say, I boned you back!

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: What?

    Fact: are you deliberately being dense? Bad question, it obviously comes naturally.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: What?

    She’s trying to speak your language – she’s saying she can believe you tutored someone in speaking bullshit, but not english.

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    Seriously, dude. All the money is earned in conservative states and confiscated by liberal state mooches. Look it up or continue to be the reactionary tool of stupidity you are.

    Fact: That’s a better fix for you.

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Texas has a balance budget law dipshit! They are the most productive state in the USA with jobs asshole. You need serious help! They by law can’t run into debt. Plus they don’t have a state income tax from your wages like a blue state!

    Is English a second language?

  • SarahP

    Bill Adkins said:
    She’s trying to speak your language – she’s saying she can believe you tutored someone in speaking bullshit, but not english.

    Thanks for the translation. This idiot needs all the help he can get.

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    She’s trying to speak your language – she’s saying she can believe you tutored someone in speaking bullshit, but not english.

    Fact: Thanks I can’t read liberal sometimes. Looks like you know your liberal but not history or economics?

  • Just4thefax

    SarahP said:
    Is English a second language?

    Fact: Liberals not!

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Thanks I can’t read liberal sometimes. Looks like you know your liberal but not history or economics?

    Well good for you, you deserve a big gold star!!

  • Just4thefax

    SarahP said:
    Fact: are you deliberately being dense? Bad question, it obviously comes naturally.

    Fact: I’m about to come on my laptop so keep stroking me baby!

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: I’m about to come on my laptop so keep stroking me baby!

    Fact: just4idiots is in love with this laptop. Poor laptop. Baby!! LMAO!!

  • Just4thefax

    Elaine B said:
    Just4thefax says: Elaine B said:I SAY DON’T PASS ANY BILL AND IT WILL BE OVER IN JANUARY ANY WAY! Fact: Don’t worry early next year it will pass under new elected take office that will make it retro-active. That’s why the Boner called it chickenshit! hehehe I put down a boner for you Elaine! He not4Fox, Boner wasn’t happy the other day and called it chickenshit because he wasn’t getting his way, dumbass. I guess you might say, I boned you back!

    Fact: Elaine hit the quote by the person’s name to get what they posted! I don’t get boned on the back, I do the boning here and that’s the fact!

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Elaine hit the quote by the person’s name to get what they posted! I don’t get boned on the back, I do the boning here and that’s the fact!

    Does your laptop smoke?

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    Take away oil and Texas is nothing — In the ’70s Pike County Kentucky had the greatest per capita number of millionaires in the nation – then the Coal Boom went Bust. Your logic skills are non-existent.

    Fact: Houston is oil and Aerospace. Dallas is defence and high Tech. Austin is Dell computers.

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Houston is oil and Aerospace. Dallas is defence and high Tech. Austin is Dell computers.

    …and just4idiots is full of shit and having a fling with his laptop.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    SarahP said:
    Maybe Glen Beck University. LOL!!

    Same thing.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: She’s Alienware M17 wireless laptop to you and it’s you flinging and post stroking it in front of her! We both sit in the dark with her lighted keyboard functions that make you growl.

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: She’s Alienware M17 wireless laptop to you and it’s you flinging and post stroking it in front of her! We both sit in the dark with her lighted keyboard functions that make you growl.

    Have you discussed this with your laptop? I think you owe it to her don’t you? LOL!!

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    Same thing.

    Fact: You still here loser, without history or economics to back any of your lies!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Paul says:

    Yeah, tell that to the liberals on Martha’s Vineyard, or in the Hamptons, or in Fairfield County, CT. They ALL make more money than you, kiddo. LOTS more money. And they mostly vote Dem. Dig it!

    Hey Paul, how many of you and your lib buddies willingly gave back the Bush tax cut? You know you don’t HAVE to accept it.

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: You still here loser, without history or economics to back any of your lies!

    Speaking of losers – how is your laptop handling your fling with the desktop?

  • rocky road

    Typical Dem slander. Obama calls republicans the enemy, Menendez calls them terrorists. Can’t wait till 2012 when Menedez is sent packing along with Obama. I don’t care if another Dem gets in there as long as it’s someone with experience, competence and intelligence something Obama is seriously lacking. Obama needs to go back to Chi Town and work for Rahm.

  • ganymede

    It may be soon seen that the Repubs are even worse than the terrorists in putting the lives of millions of Americans in jeopardy. Your ignorance and incivility will eventually be your downfall. The Dems were overwhelmingly elected in 2008 and Obama tried, foolishly I think, to work with the Repubs. Now, because of a bad economy caused primarily by Bush, and an angry, manipulated electorate the Repubs have had a big midterm victory. Well, what do you plan to do? Thus far, it seems you will let millions of people sink further into poverty, and you don’t seem to have any idea of what’s needed to get the economy going. Protecting the ultra rich is going to help at all. So, I will keep asking what are you going to do to help the vast majority of people asides from heaping scorn on the Dems. You don’t seem to have a good track record. You can’t even begin to address what’s one of the major reasons we are in such bad shape. I’m referring to the incessant wars we get involved in and on which we’ve squandered trillions of dollars. Where were you when Bush got us into what is the biggest blunder in our history – the Iraqi War. Ron Paul is the only rightwinger who is anti-war. All I can say is I wish you people were better human beings.

  • Anne 1

    Are programmes bring made available this evening ?

  • SarahP

    rocky road said:
    Typical Dem slander. Obama calls republicans the enemy, Menendez calls them terrorists. Can’t wait till 2012 when Menedez is sent packing along with Obama. I don’t care if another Dem gets in there as long as it’s someone with experience, competence and intelligence something Obama is seriously lacking. Obama needs to go back to Chi Town and work for Rahm.

    You are obviously missing a fundamental knowledge base, without which, there can be no discussion.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    RedStates are not as dumb as Bloomberg!

    Is that why he’s worth almost as much as all the red states combined? HAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    SarahP said:
    You’re talking way way above this idiots comprehension level.

    True, dat! LOL

  • sticks

    Elaine B said:
    Menendez is speaking the truth! The GOP has done nothing for the last 4 years but say NO to everything. It is going to be a rude awaking to the Republican party that there will be nothing accomplished in this congress. They will continue to oppose everything. The losers here are the AMERICAN’S, each and everyone of us.

    No, the loser here is you… Just do the math einstein… The dems have had the white house, the house and the senate the last two years… The republicans mathmatically could not have been the party of no… I know this is hard for you, but could you, once in awhile try to make some sense ?…

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Red States have right to work unions not force to be in unions like blue states that are killed by supporting them that is why business likes it in the south and rent and housing doesn’t have union cost built in to it dipshit! You kidding you really believe in what you post?

    Unions are supported by union dues which come from the paychecks of union members. There is no public money in unions, moron! Businesses like doing business in red states because conservative pols let them rape their workforce while getting tax breaks. You really need to get a brain.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    sticks said:
    No, the loser here is you… Just do the math einstein… The dems have had the white house, the house and the senate the last two years… The republicans mathmatically could not have been the party of no… I know this is hard for you, but could you, once in awhile try to make some sense ?…

    Right, cause there’s no such thing as a filibuster or cloture vote or anything. Calling people stupid is not proof of your points. Not sure if you knew that. ;-)

  • Anne 1

    MInd the Syntax !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    SarahP said:
    Have you discussed this with your laptop? I think you owe it to her don’t you? LOL!!

    I’m still here and with both history and economics to back me up. That you’re too stupid to understand either is on display as is, courtesy of Sarah, your limp dick.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Hey Paul, how many of you and your lib buddies willingly gave back the Bush tax cut? You know you don’t HAVE to accept it.

    Blue states already send much more to Washington than we get in return. How many wealthy residents of red states helped their states out by paying higher taxes? None, right? You guys already take enough of our money and now you want us to volunteer even more? Why don’t you actually earn something in red states for a change, eh? How about THAT for a solution! LOL!

  • The Real Royal King

    The War on the Middle Class was launched by the Republicans in 1980 with disastrous consequences for the heart and soul of American.

    The War of Radical Islam began 10 years ago.

    We are under a two front terrorism attack, no doubt about it.

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    Unions are supported by union dues which come from the paychecks of union members. There is no public money in unions, moron! Businesses like doing business in red states because conservative pols let them rape their workforce while getting tax breaks. You really need to get a brain.

    Fact: Unions have spent their union pensions on politics backing democrats running for office and are now asking for a pension bailout. If that fails it goes back to the tax payers to pay for it in the end moron. Get a booster chair to see what’s on the table shithead wake-up!

  • dummy123

    I am gonna step across party lines and pledge by support for Robert Menendez.
    My decision has absolutely nothing to do with his gorgeous daughter Alicia……;)

  • sticks

    Paul Westlake said:
    Right, cause there’s no such thing as a filibuster or cloture vote or anything. Calling people stupid is not proof of your points. Not sure if you knew that. ;-)

    Really ???… Thats the best you got ?… Last Jan. they had sixty dems in the senate, the house was beyond dem, and now you say that the republicans are the problem ?… Nice try, but do the math… You can go right in the stupid category also… The numbers don’t lie and you can’t blame the republicans for the dems ineptitude…

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    Blue states already send much more to Washington than we get in return. How many wealthy residents of red states helped their states out by paying higher taxes? None, right? You guys already take enough of our money and now you want us to volunteer even more? Why don’t you actually earn something in red states for a change, eh? How about THAT for a solution! LOL!

    Fact: Again Jackass Blue states need to learn how to pay for themselves and quit blaming it on giving to Red States that’s what democrats push for right. People who earn it give it to those who don’t? Why are you arguing the republican points on your post but you’re stuck in stupid saying you’re for democrats to win everything!

  • skyfet

    @Just4thefax
    Don’t be dumb, he used some of the stimulus money to balance the budget, just check it out.

  • Just4thefax

    skyfet said:
    @Just4thefaxDon’t be dumb, he used some of the stimulus money to balance the budget, just check it out.

    Fact: Stimulus in your life is; See spot run! Don’t post after me punk do it to stupid people like Sarah P!

  • timzank

    skyfet said:
    @Just4thefaxDon’t be dumb, he used some of the stimulus money to balance the budget, just check it out.

    Obama math again. 2+2=30 million….

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bill Adkins said:
    I made more money today than you made in the last 30 days. I pay more in taxes in one year than you make in three. Don’t worry about me, I’ll be fine.

    I’m Billy Ray . I spend more on dogfood each month for the hounds under my porch than you make in ten years . Just send me the bill for the deficit .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    I’m Billy Ray . I spend more on dogfood each month for the hounds under my porch than you make in ten years . Just send me the bill for the deficit .

    No, I’m Spartacus – and that dogfood comes in cans and when the lantern of stupid opens a can of dogfood it’s soft, and wet and he forms it into the shape of a chicken and pretends it’s a happy meal.

  • murf

    Bill Adkins said:
    That you’re too stupid to understand either is on display as is, courtesy of Sarah, your limp dick.

    Hey Bill, you couldn’t even get to elected city council man in Kentucky and you’re calling people stupid ?… LOL

  • Just4thefax

    murf said:
    Hey Bill, you couldn’t even get to elected city council man in Kentucky and you’re calling people stupid ?… LOL

    Fact: You can call me a moron just don’t call me Bill Adkins!

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: You can call me a moron just don’t call me Bill Adkins!

    I’m Billy Ray Adkins . Those hicks don’t know how humble I am . I’ll crush them .

  • murf

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: You can call me a moron just don’t call me Bill Adkins!

    When the town fire hydrant has a better chance of getting elected to City Council , you know you failed at life.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    murf said:
    When the town fire hydrant has a better chance of getting elected to City Council , you know you failed at life.

    Why certainly you can call me Bill Adkins – it’s my name. Only cowards hide behind pseudonyms. Maybe with your fake names you can tie a towel around your neck, pull your bvds up to your armpits and pretend you can fly, too. Oh, I always call you ‘moron.’

  • murf

    Bill Adkins said:
    Why certainly you can call me Bill Adkins – it’s my name. Only cowards hide behind pseudonyms. Maybe with your fake names you can tie a towel around your neck, pull your bvds up to your armpits and pretend you can fly, too. Oh, I always call you ‘moron.’

    John J Murphy

    email me j_murf07@yahoo.com

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bill Adkins said:
    I made more money today than you made in the last 30 days. I pay more in taxes in one year than you make in three. Don’t worry about me, I’ll be fine.

    I’m Billy Ray Adkins . I only wear my underwear once , and then give it to my wife , Cousin Honeybee , to use as dustrags . Got to go run some shine up to the country club .

  • murf

    Bill Adkins said:
    Why certainly you can call me Bill Adkins – it’s my name. Only cowards hide behind pseudonyms. Maybe with your fake names you can tie a towel around your neck, pull your bvds up to your armpits and pretend you can fly, too. Oh, I always call you ‘moron.’

    Oh and follow me on Twitter J_Murphy7

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    murf said:
    John J Murphy email me j_murf07@yahoo.com

    Glad you came out of that closet, John – why were you hiding?

    Bill Adkins adkinslaw56@gmail.com

    and I’m on Facebook, too

  • Just4thefax

    Bill Adkins said:
    Glad you came out of that closet, John – why were you hiding? Bill Adkins adkinslaw56@gmail.com and I’m on Facebook, too

    Fact: Now that we all know your an ass we should all do some online surveys for your e-mail address. Right funknasty!

  • murf

    Bill Adkins said:
    Glad you came out of that closet, John – why were you hiding?

    LOL Hiding ? No wonder you got beat in the City Council vote..

  • Nacho

    It’s true.

    The GOP uses Al-Taqiyya to lie to the American people to get what they want for their corporate overlords.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    murf said:
    LOL Hiding ? No wonder you got beat in the City Council vote..

    Billry Ray Adkins here . Just one reason I got a Kentucky Head Stompin ‘ in the election . The hick voters met me .

  • Patrick Henry

    Elaine B said:
    The losers here are the AMERICAN’S

    Uh, no, that would be you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Billry Ray Adkins here . Just one reason I got a Kentucky Head Stompin ‘ in the election . The hick voters met me .

    Heh – I’ve taken Rand Paul on personally, chickenshits like you, lantern of idiocy, are as anticipated – when ignorance becomes a political movement it attracts the lowest common denominator – you.

  • Patrick Henry

    Elaine B said:
    All Americans are being effected by the ignorance of people like you.

    No, that would be dumb asses like you.

  • Patrick Henry

    Elaine B said:
    Did you take your meds today?

    You obviously did not take yours!

  • Patrick Henry

    Elaine B said:
    FACT: Your too stupid to realize any of this

    Wrong again, that would be you.

  • Patrick Henry

    SarahP said:
    Fact: You are living proof that the public education system has failed.

    And who might be running the public school system-LIBERALS.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bill Adkins said:
    I made more money today than you made in the last 30 days. I pay more in taxes in one year than you make in three. Don’t worry about me, I’ll be fine.

    Bill Adkins said:
    No, dumbass – those are the RESULTS of Republican policies. Get your head out of your ass a few minutes each day. The air will do you some good. But brush your tooth.

    Bill Adkins said:
    You don’t have to announce your still stuck on a stupid loop asshole – it’s more than obvious. The Republican clusterfuck machine delivered this mess.

    Bill Adkins said:
    She’s trying to speak your language – she’s saying she can believe you tutored someone in speaking bullshit, but not english.

    Bill Adkins said:
    Heh – I’ve taken Rand Paul on personally, chickenshits like you, lantern of idiocy, are as anticipated – when ignorance becomes a political movement it attracts the lowest common denominator – you.

    I’m Billy Ray Adkins . Moron . Loser . Kentucky hick with no class at all . Help .

  • Patrick Henry

    Elaine B said:
    Boner wasn’t happy the other day and called it chickenshit because he wasn’t getting his way, dumbass.

    Can you ever get it right, dumb ass?

  • disenlightened

    Menendez is hilarious. Without a suit on he looks just like an older woman – the kind you see in the kitchen in an apron baking cookies. He’s all fleshy and has this big old lady’s butt. It’s huge. And he sits like a woman with fat legs. I just can’t seem to respect Democrats like him. Well, I just can’t seem to respect Democrats period because I hate thieves, but I really can’t respect him. Jim McDermott is another one. Nothing masculine about him.

  • Elaine B

    Bill Adkins, Paul Westlake and Sarah P,

    I just wanted to say except for you all and a few others, I have never seen a bunch of ignominious all on one blog as I have seen here. The rederick is exactly like little parrots mimicking Fox, talking points and all.

    It is as if they had one brain or perhaps are one person….. Have you noticed that too?

  • cjd ohio 1

    ok elaine what percent do you want to tax the rich

  • disenlightened

    Elaine B said:
    rederick

    I don’t usually dwell on misspellings and grammar, but what the hell is “the rederick”?

  • Elaine B

    Patrick Henry or rather “Anal One”,

    Your back! Yes, the sun is gone and it is time the creepy crawlers come out to play. Bite me!! YOU LOSER!

  • BlackWidow

    Elaine B said:
    Bill Adkins, Paul Westlake and Sarah P, I just wanted to say except for you all and a few others, I have never seen a bunch of ignominious all on one blog as I have seen here. The rederick is exactly like little parrots mimicking Fox, talking points and all. It is as if they had one brain or perhaps are one person….. Have you noticed that too?

    You are a scream Elaine. I like your spunk. Most of the posters on here act like morans. Notice I said act? If this is how they are in real life we are in big trouble. I am the only KO fan on here. Even the sane people don’t like him.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Unions have spent their union pensions on politics backing democrats running for office and are now asking for a pension bailout. If that fails it goes back to the tax payers to pay for it in the end moron. Get a booster chair to see what’s on the table shithead wake-up!

    Haven’t seen unions that spent emergency funds on the elections this year asking for the taxpayers to replenish the kitty. I wouldn’t be in favor of it if they did.

  • BlackWidow

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    ok elaine what percent do you want to tax the rich

    I don’t know about Elaine but I want to tax them to death. With all the loopholes I am sure they pay less than I do. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

  • Elaine B

    So Dimlighten, I spelled it phonetically, rhetoric is that better?? Asshole

  • cjd ohio 1

    thanks black widow at least you are honest

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    sticks said:
    Really ???… Thats the best you got ?… Last Jan. they had sixty dems in the senate, the house was beyond dem, and now you say that the republicans are the problem ?… Nice try, but do the math… You can go right in the stupid category also… The numbers don’t lie and you can’t blame the republicans for the dems ineptitude…

    Nice try, but they had 58 Democrats and two independents. Bernie Sanders is a reliable member of the caucus, Lieberman not so much. And if you recall, Lieberman became the center of the Senate for several weeks before Brown made that point moot. Nice try yourself but survey says: BZZZ!

    You are right about one thing, though, we can’t blame the GOP for Dem political naivete. No point in doing anything in the Senate other than reconciliation bills from now on. Budget only. No policy. Fuck it. Fix everything via the tax code. But Dems have never been accused of being too aggressive. ;-)

  • BlackWidow

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Now that we all know your an ass we should all do some online surveys for your e-mail address. Right funknasty!

    I saw on one of the other posts you had two computers going at one time. Finally figured how to be NUTSO and FAX at the same time. Good for you. Maybe mom will let you out of the basement one of these days to be apart of the real world.

  • BlackWidow

    You are right about one thing, though, we can’t blame the GOP for Dem political naivete. No point in doing anything in the Senate other than reconciliation bills from now on. Budget only. No policy. Fuck it. Fix everything via the tax code. But Dems have never been accused of being too aggressive. ;-)

    I wonder if I will live long enough to see someone other than Nancy grow a few. I know we dems are usually nice people but come on we need some backbone.

  • Elaine B

    cjd, what % of should the rich be taxed?

    A hell of a lot more then they have been taxed for the last 30 years! If it wasn’t for the deregulations of corporations in this country this would not have happened. The greedy bastards made their fortunes off our hard labor and or backs. No thanks to them they also shipped our jobs overseas because they wanted more.

    The stench of their greed sickens me. What they have been doing to us and this country sickens me.

    I wish all the bankers who screw all of us on mortgages and received bail out were put in jail for the rest of the lives, Yet they are allowed to make, off of our hard work and money, record breaking profits again this year.
    Where is the justice in this?

    And you ask me a stupid thing like what % do I feel they should be taxed? Come on, use your head!!!

  • disenlightened

    Elaine B said:
    So Dimlighten, I spelled it phonetically, rhetoric is that better?? Asshole

    Is your boyfriend Roderick full of rederick?

  • cjd ohio 1

    sorry just asked what percent, didnt know that you were just a nutcase, that could not answer a simple question

  • disenlightened

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    sorry just asked what percent, didnt know that you were just a nutcase, that could not answer a simple question

    They say she’s full of rederick, but I think it’s malt liquor.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Again Jackass Blue states need to learn how to pay for themselves and quit blaming it on giving to Red States that’s what democrats push for right. People who earn it give it to those who don’t? Why are you arguing the republican points on your post but you’re stuck in stupid saying you’re for democrats to win everything!

    Dude, I’m talking about the actual facts, not the talking point fantasies you read and hear in right wing media. Wanna see what I mean?

    - http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html
    - http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html

    As the headline says, red states feed… at the trough that blue states fill.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    The American people don’t want taxes raised on anyone.

    There should be NO income tax on the rich or anyone else.

    We should enact the Fair Tax. Look it up.

  • cjd ohio 1

    sorry fax, but paul is right on that new york only gets about 0.79 cents for each dollar sent to washington

  • Elaine B

    Your right Black Widow, I wish the Dems would show some backbone. I am sick and tired of them being nice, we need to stand up and say enough is enough, Obama too for that matter.

    I think they all need to stand up and Yell “I am madder then hell and I not going to take it anymore” I know I am and I feel I have been yelling this for years now.

    What troubling me are how many people who just don’t have a clue on what is really going on, like the boys on the blog there, (probably all retired on SS and MC and pensions). The boys on this blog are like zombies, the walking dead. Mindless wonders. Fox has eaten their brains and left only their talking points.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Elaine B said:
    Bill Adkins, Paul Westlake and Sarah P,

    I just wanted to say except for you all and a few others, I have never seen a bunch of ignominious all on one blog as I have seen here. The rederick is exactly like little parrots mimicking Fox, talking points and all.

    It is as if they had one brain or perhaps are one person….. Have you noticed that too?

    They all parrot from the same set of talking points that circulate through the right wing media and gets updated every day. They’re just using the talking points they can remember from their favorite right wing TV and radio programs. Whatever Rush and Hannity and Billo and Glenn are talking about is whatever spews around here. I wouldn’t doubt some of them know each other, or possibly work for the same right wing think tank or something, but it’s not necessary for them to march in lock step together. They can just listen to the latest Michael Savage primal scream and be good to go. ;-)

  • Angstone

    gordonbloyershow said:
    The American people don’t want taxes raised on anyone.

    Gordo,

    Only 46% of self identified republicans want the tax cuts extended for the very rich. So you are confusing your own opinion for the American people.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    BlackWidow said:
    I wonder if I will live long enough to see someone other than Nancy grow a few. I know we dems are usually nice people but come on we need some backbone.

    Tell me about it. If it were up to me (which we can all be thankful it isn’t!) I’d have learned the lesson from the last Congress and rewritten the rules to lower the cloture threshold to 55 votes. Lieberman who? Brown who? But Harry Reid is too wimpy to put up a fight of any kind really. Sure, he got the GOP in record voting to raise taxes today, but so what. He doesn’t know how to get an agenda through the way Nancy does in the House. I totally agree. Nancy has cajones and is probably the most effective Democratic leader we’ve seen since Truman.

  • The Count

    AH AH AH AH AH AH !

  • disenlightened

    Paul Westlake said:
    They all parrot from the same set of talking points that circulate through the right wing media and gets updated every day. They’re just using the talking points they can remember from their favorite right wing TV and radio programs. Whatever Rush and Hannity and Billo and Glenn are talking about is whatever spews around here. I wouldn’t doubt some of them know each other, or possibly work for the same right wing think tank or something, but it’s not necessary for them to march in lock step together. They can just listen to the latest Michael Savage primal scream and be good to go. ;-)

    Paul has yet to figure out that the Democrat Party has lost it’s usefulness. They have no purpose any more. They have nothing to offer people but hate and envy. He talks about conservatives parroting talking points while he spends his days mimicking the same failed anti-capitalist rhetoric of Marx in the 1840′s (yes, the same Karl Marx who read books and wouldn’t keep a job while four of his children died in poverty) and the silver spoon millionaire FDR in the 1940′s. Democrats are a minority party now, and I hope we can drive into the “ash heap of history as it has left other tyrannies which stifle the freedom and muzzle the self expression of the people”, as Reagan once said of Communism.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    gordonbloyershow said:
    There should be NO income tax on the rich or anyone else.

    We should enact the Fair Tax. Look it up.

    Gordon, if you got your way, New York, Los Angeles and Chicago would be rich. Everywhere else would be poor. And no you can’t have any more of our money. Enact a national sales tax and the already sparsely populated red states would empty out in a generation. Montana would go from 800,000 residents to 800 in about ten years. And New York would have to blow up the Hudson River crossings to keep the refugees from the camps in New Jersey from flooding Wall Street. Yeah, the “Fair Tax” is a super dooper idea!

    You’re supposed to put the cream on the rash, Gordon, not in your beer. Just saying. ;-)

  • Angstone

    Paul Westlake said:
    They all parrot from the same set of talking points that circulate through the right wing media and gets updated every day.

    If you notice, a lot of the bogus facts trumpeted by the little rage machines here are from sites like CNS. com, The Washington Times, Newsmax, etc. –

    Give the right wing credit, objective reality was not working for them so they managed to turn a good trick: create their own false reality that about 23% of the country believes. Even neo-con nut job Bill Kristol, in a moment of arrogant candor about 4 years ago bragged that the second greatest feat of the GOP in the past 50 years was the ruse that the press was liberal (I forget was he cited as #1.) It’s a hell of a trick: seal off the avenue for any objective info to get to their knuckledragging base and replace it with narratives spun by Rush Limbaugh and Roger Ailes.

    So your average undereducated Joe Sixpack like NotsoSmart, Disenlightened, Mr.Papschmear, Atticus, or JustNoFax is completely inoculated against the facts of what happened under Bush, has zero ability to understand what really caused the sub-prime crisis, has no concept of pre-war intel manipulation, no idea of the economic realities of the Stimulus, the impact of the 2001-2002 tax cuts, etc, etc. Instead they are sent chasing powerless Mexicans, gays, Acorn, 3 clueless black panther wannabes in Philly, and the hordes plotting to eradicate Christmas. Ailes and his gang have done an amazing job keeping the lower classes from ever looking at the real reason their wages are sinking, jobs are gone and quality of life is slipping, and aimed lower class, undereducated anger anywhere but wall street and the corporate suite who have been buying their own laws for 25 years.

  • Angstone

    disenlightened said:
    Paul has yet to figure out that the Democrat Party has lost it’s usefulness. They have no purpose any more.

    They are pretty useless. Since the unions have nearly disappeared over the past 40 years, the Dems, who are almost as craven as the GOP, have been vying for corporate dollars almost as hard as the GOP. They are the GOP light. Clinton’s economic policies from his second term were to the right of Nixons. If you took a generic politician with Obama’s policies to date, and placed him in 1968 he would be a Republican. And before you throw the health care reform (that Obama unsuccessfully tried to water down further at the end) you should look at the fact that Romney, Dole and Nixon both proposed HCR that was broader and more comprehensive than Obamas.

  • disenlightened

    Angstone said:
    So your average undereducated Joe Sixpack like NotsoSmart, Disenlightened, Mr.Papschmear, Atticus, or JustNoFax is completely inoculated against the facts of what happened under Bush, has zero ability to understand what really caused the sub-prime crisis, has no concept of pre-war intel manipulation, no idea of the economic realities of the Stimulus, the impact of the 2001-2002 tax cuts, etc, etc. Instead they are sent chasing powerless Mexicans, gays, Acorn, 3 clueless black panther wannabes in Philly, and the hordes plotting to eradicate Christmas

    Somehow conservatives seem to have all the money, while libs like yourself spend all day scheming of ways to steal it. Clever, thieving Democrats, with nothing to offer anyone.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    disenlightened said:
    Paul has yet to figure out that the Democrat Party has lost it’s usefulness. They have no purpose any more. They have nothing to offer people but hate and envy. He talks about conservatives parroting talking points while he spends his days mimicking the same failed anti-capitalist rhetoric of Marx in the 1840’s (yes, the same Karl Marx who read books and wouldn’t keep a job while four of his children died in poverty) and the silver spoon millionaire FDR in the 1940’s. Democrats are a minority party now, and I hope we can drive into the “ash heap of history as it has left other tyrannies which stifle the freedom and muzzle the self expression of the people”, as Reagan once said of Communism.

    Earth to cosmonaut – when have you seen me “mimic” the “failed anti-capitalist rhetoric of Marx?” Hello? Nobody “mimics” anything here because this isn’t a site for mimes. Also, Karl Marx? Anti-capitalist? Care to come across with some examples, creampuff? Care to back up that spectacularly self-aggrandizing rhetoric of yours with some fucking substance? And speaking of muzzling self-expression, perhaps you can explain how it was acceptable to accuse liberals of being un-American traitors for criticizing one commander-in-chief, but it’s not acceptable for liberals to point out the pervasive racism attendant with criticism of another commander-in-chief? Why is it OK to stifle dissent in one administration, but not OK to even criticize dissent in another? Hmm?

    I hope you’re getting paid for spewing these talking points, because if you’re doing it for free, you’re an idiot.

  • disenlightened

    Paul Westlake said:
    Earth to cosmonaut – when have you seen me “mimic” the “failed anti-capitalist rhetoric of Marx?” Hello? Nobody “mimics” anything here because this isn’t a site for mimes. Also, Karl Marx? Anti-capitalist? Care to come across with some examples, creampuff? Care to back up that spectacularly self-aggrandizing rhetoric of yours with some fucking substance? And speaking of muzzling self-expression, perhaps you can explain how it was acceptable to accuse liberals of being un-American traitors for criticizing one commander-in-chief, but it’s not acceptable for liberals to point out the pervasive racism attendant with criticism of another commander-in-chief? Why is it OK to stifle dissent in one administration, but not OK to even criticize dissent in another? Hmm?

    I hope you’re getting paid for spewing these talking points, because if you’re doing it for free, you’re an idiot.

    I love tweeking your sorry ass. You’re so easy. You kitchen-sink like a woman.

  • Nacho

    The GOP are using a tactic straight from Sharia Law to fool the American citizens.

    For shame! The founding American colonials would tar and feather these chicken crap imperialists!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Angstone said:
    If you notice, a lot of the bogus facts trumpeted by the little rage machines here are from sites like CNS. com, The Washington Times, Newsmax, etc. –

    Give the right wing credit, objective reality was not working for them so they managed to turn a good trick: create their own false reality that about 23% of the country believes. Even neo-con nut job Bill Kristol, in a moment of arrogant candor about 4 years ago bragged that the second greatest feat of the GOP in the past 50 years was the ruse that the press was liberal (I forget was he cited as #1.) It’s a hell of a trick: seal off the avenue for any objective info to get to their knuckledragging base and replace it with narratives spun by Rush Limbaugh and Roger Ailes.

    So your average undereducated Joe Sixpack like NotsoSmart, Disenlightened, Mr.Papschmear, Atticus, or JustNoFax is completely inoculated against the facts of what happened under Bush, has zero ability to understand what really caused the sub-prime crisis, has no concept of pre-war intel manipulation, no idea of the economic realities of the Stimulus, the impact of the 2001-2002 tax cuts, etc, etc. Instead they are sent chasing powerless Mexicans, gays, Acorn, 3 clueless black panther wannabes in Philly, and the hordes plotting to eradicate Christmas. Ailes and his gang have done an amazing job keeping the lower classes from ever looking at the real reason their wages are sinking, jobs are gone and quality of life is slipping, and aimed lower class, undereducated anger anywhere but wall street and the corporate suite who have been buying their own laws for 25 years.

    Very well put. Back in the early 90s when I was a moderator for CNN on CompuServe, I mentioned that the Madison Avenue propaganda machine would make the Gestapo blush and we should be very afraid of its entry into politics. Back then, conservatives agreed with that sentiment. Little did I know then that Fox News would take that skill set to the scariest level yet. That these people don’t even understand the corruption within the phrases “we report, you decide” and “fair and balanced” is testament to how far our populace has fallen in a very quick period of time. Every time I comment here, I’m reminded of my favorite Shakespeare quote:

    “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” ~As You Like It

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    disenlightened said:
    I love tweeking your sorry ass. You’re so easy. You kitchen-sink like a woman.

    Oh, I see. You have no facts to back up your baseless accusations, you just get your ya-yas making baseless accusations. OK. Thanks for the heads up.

    [switching setting to "ignore"]

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    disenlightened said:
    I love tweeking your sorry ass. You’re so easy. You kitchen-sink like a woman.

    PS – You dishonor both Gene Wilder and Mel Brooks putting that picture next to your chronic stupidity.

  • Angstone

    disenlightened said:
    Somehow conservatives seem to have all the money, while libs like yourself spend all day scheming of ways to steal it. Clever, thieving Democrats, with nothing to offer anyone.

    Keep trying to tell yourself that. If the cuts expire for those making 250K and up, I’ll be paying more. And some of that was hard work (80 hour weeks for 15 years) but plenty was just luck that my parents could afford to send me to good schools and I made good connections. Income is not and never will be a direct reflection of someones moral character and determination. A lot of it is determined by the social class you are born into and luck along with abition and hard work.

    From the things you write, it’s a pretty fair guess that you didn’t get as lucky in educational opportunities, and the Ailes of the world have had little trouble redirecting your frustration.

  • disenlightened

    Like most know-it-all-libs, you’re horribly boring. You try to confuse people with minute, cherry-picked details, straw men and false equivalences. You spend hours studying a topic, then hope to catch someone without that benefit off guard to try to make them look bad and you look superior. I know what’s right and I know what’s wrong, and I’m certainly not going to allow myself to get swept up into your liberal, Tower of Babel, Kirby vacuum. It leads no where and it’s a waste of my time. Switching setting to “ignore” – that’s something girls do on MySpace.

  • disenlightened

    Angstone said:
    Keep trying to tell yourself that. If the cuts expire for those making 250K and up, I’ll be paying more. And some of that was hard work (80 hour weeks for 15 years) but plenty was just luck that my parents could afford to send me to good schools and I made good connections. Income is not and never will be a direct reflection of someones moral character and determination. A lot of it is determined by the social class you are born into and luck along with abition and hard work.

    From the things you write, it’s a pretty fair guess that you didn’t get as lucky in educational opportunities, and the Ailes of the world have had little trouble redirecting your frustration.

    Trying reading this tomorrow when you’re sober.

  • disenlightened

    Paul Westlake said:
    PS – You dishonor both Gene Wilder and Mel Brooks putting that picture next to your chronic stupidity.

    I forgot, liberals own those Jews, right Heir Westlake?

  • disenlightened

    Paul Westlake said:
    Very well put. Back in the early 90s when I was a moderator for CNN on CompuServe, I mentioned that the Madison Avenue propaganda machine would make the Gestapo blush and we should be very afraid of its entry into politics. Back then, conservatives agreed with that sentiment. Little did I know then that Fox News would take that skill set to the scariest level yet. That these people don’t even understand the corruption within the phrases “we report, you decide” and “fair and balanced” is testament to how far our populace has fallen in a very quick period of time. Every time I comment here, I’m reminded of my favorite Shakespeare quote:

    “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” ~As You Like It

    I’m willing to bet your own mother screens your calls.

  • Angstone

    Paul Westlake said:
    Little did I know then that Fox News would take that skill set to the scariest level yet. That these people don’t even understand the corruption within the phrases “we report, you decide” and “fair and balanced” is testament to how far our populace has fallen in a very quick period of time

    I work with an editor who spent a few years at Fox News and CNN each. He pretty down the line libertarian, so not a big fan of the GOP or Dems. His take was that both places were full of cartoonish egos and petty idiots, but that CNN was a disorganized scramble with no steady bias one way or the other. Some producers and on-air had their own slants in either direction or pet hot buttons, but no institutional slant. Fox on the other hand sent out the infamous Moody Memo each AM to all on air talent, producers, writers and editors giving a subtle but definite Fox POV to apply to the emerging stories of the day. He also said that the on air talent was mostly (but not all) very bedrock conservative and twice in his time there he had to clean up his area because Dick Cheney was being taken around.

  • Angstone

    disenlightened said:
    Trying reading this tomorrow when you’re sober.

    I’ll take that to be a concession on your part. Thanks.

  • disenlightened

    Angstone said:
    I’ll take that to be a concession on your part. Thanks.

    I meant, you try reading it tomorrow when you’re sober. I’m sure I outdo you in both education and alcohol tolerance.

  • Angstone

    disenlightened said:
    I meant, you try reading it tomorrow when you’re sober. I’m sure I outdo you in both education and alcohol tolerance.

    I hope you bluff better in poker.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    disenlightened said:
    I’m willing to bet your own mother screens your calls.

    Yep, I definitely touched a nerve. LOL

    disenlightened said:
    I forgot, liberals own those Jews, right Heir Westlake?

    I was just talking about artistic integrity. Got something against the Jews?

    And it’s HERR Westlake to you. ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Angstone said:
    disenlightened said:
    I meant, you try reading it tomorrow when you’re sober. I’m sure I outdo you in both education and alcohol tolerance.

    I hope you bluff better in poker.

    Well, if he bluffs like that, he can sit at my table any time! ;-)

  • TCinAZ

    Marone! What a F’king Nightmare it must be having That Hyperbolic D’bag for a Father-in-law. LOL!

    Poor Alicia.

  • disenlightened

    Paul Westlake said:

    And it’s HERR Westlake to you. ;-)

    Reduced to swatting at typos. Just where useless liberals belong. LOL.

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    Dude, I’m talking about the actual facts, not the talking point fantasies you read and hear in right wing media. Wanna see what I mean? – http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html- http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html As the headline says, red states feed… at the trough that blue states fill.

    Fact: These are just left nut sites! Try this one.
    http://www.zimbio.com/member/MarcChamot/articles/jnW-Mb9-maH/Shocking+Forbes+Report+Bluest+Democrat+States

    You put money in your stock the democrat way and I will put money in my stock the republican way. Capitalism beats your socialism hands down. In your case handout!

  • disenlightened

    Paul Westlake said:
    PS – You dishonor both Gene Wilder and Mel Brooks putting that picture next to your chronic stupidity.

    By the way, this drives home another point. I love Gene Wilder and Mel Brooks. I’ve seen everything each has done and enjoyed it all. Wilder was a genius in Frisco Kid. But, I have never thought of them as Jews, like you seem to do. I see them as talented humans who make me happy, not Jews I’m supposed to enjoy. I think both men would appreciate that.

  • Alz

    Paul Westlake said:
    75% of the current deficit is owed 100% to conservative policies of the Bush admin. Clinton left a surplus, Bush turned it into a deficit. Bush took us to two unnecessary wars, pushed through two massive tax cuts and one prescription drug benefit, none of which was actually paid for. The housing crisis was caused by conservative deregulation of government-backed paper. This is all as obvious as the point on top of your head, pinhead. Chronologically you may be right, but causation is entirely conservative. 100%. EVERYONE knows that except the whining babies on the right.

    You spend a lot of time telling people to “STFU, you POS!” I know you don’t like having your stupidity revealed for everyone to see, but that’s the way it goes when you’re a total fucking moron. Sorry, kid. Suck it up.

    Hmm, you forgot that when Clinton left office, that the dot-com crash came – which is where the “surplus” came from. The recession started before the Bush-Gore election. You don’t hear about it because the media covered for Democrats.

    The deficit is not “conservative”, it’s liberal! It’s a lack of discipline, etc. And it doesn’t matter which party we’re talking about. Liberalism, whether practiced by Democrats or Republicans is wrong and it always leads to people getting hurt.

  • Just4thefax

    Angstone said:
    I work with an editor who spent a few years at Fox News and CNN each. He pretty down the line libertarian, so not a big fan of the GOP or Dems. His take was that both places were full of cartoonish egos and petty idiots, but that CNN was a disorganized scramble with no steady bias one way or the other. Some producers and on-air had their own slants in either direction or pet hot buttons, but no institutional slant. Fox on the other hand sent out the infamous Moody Memo each AM to all on air talent, producers, writers and editors giving a subtle but definite Fox POV to apply to the emerging stories of the day. He also said that the on air talent was mostly (but not all) very bedrock conservative and twice in his time there he had to clean up his area because Dick Cheney was being taken around.

    Fact: All your post are lefty so what are you adding to the discussion other than you’re a D-bagger and you lie and have a need or want to steal from others.

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    Very well put. Back in the early 90s when I was a moderator for CNN on CompuServe, I mentioned that the Madison Avenue propaganda machine would make the Gestapo blush and we should be very afraid of its entry into politics. Back then, conservatives agreed with that sentiment. Little did I know then that Fox News would take that skill set to the scariest level yet. That these people don’t even understand the corruption within the phrases “we report, you decide” and “fair and balanced” is testament to how far our populace has fallen in a very quick period of time. Every time I comment here, I’m reminded of my favorite Shakespeare quote: “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” ~As You Like It

    Fact: Well that says it all a liberal Dan Quayle

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    disenlightened said:
    Reduced to swatting at typos. Just where useless liberals belong. LOL.

    It was a joke, asswipe. Get over yourself.

    disenlightened said:
    By the way, this drives home another point. I love Gene Wilder and Mel Brooks. I’ve seen everything each has done and enjoyed it all. Wilder was a genius in Frisco Kid. But, I have never thought of them as Jews, like you seem to do. I see them as talented humans who make me happy, not Jews I’m supposed to enjoy. I think both men would appreciate that.

    Like I said, I was talking about putting their artistic genius anywhere near to your slovenly prose. For some reason, you keep insisting it has something to do with Jews, which you were the first to bring up. So, what the fuck, dude? You have a problem with Jews? Are you saying they were very good at what they did DESPITE being Jews? Because I didn’t mention anything about Jews until you did. I think you have a problem you may not be fully cognizant of, my friend. Seriously.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: These are just left nut sites! Try this one.
    http://www.zimbio.com/member/MarcChamot/articles/jnW-Mb9-maH/Shocking+Forbes+Report+Bluest+Democrat+States

    You put money in your stock the democrat way and I will put money in my stock the republican way. Capitalism beats your socialism hands down. In your case handout!

    OK, one, Forbes is essentially the beating heart of the right wing libertarian establishment. Whereas the Tax Foundation is a peer-reviewed non-profit. So that’s pretty fucking dumb to begin with. And, two, what the fuck do you expect Forbes to say? That the supply-side trickle-down economic theories they’ve been pushing for decades are an abject failure and should be scrapped? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    75% of the current deficit is owed 100% to conservative policies of the Bush admin. Clinton left a surplus, Bush turned it into a deficit. Bush took us to two unnecessary wars, pushed through two massive tax cuts and one prescription drug benefit, none of which was actually paid for. The housing crisis was caused by conservative deregulation of government-backed paper. This is all as obvious as the point on top of your head, pinhead. Chronologically you may be right, but causation is entirely conservative. 100%. EVERYONE knows that except the whining babies on the right. You spend a lot of time telling people to “STFU, you POS!” I know you don’t like having your stupidity revealed for everyone to see, but that’s the way it goes when you’re a total fucking moron. Sorry, kid. Suck it up.

    Fact: Again you lie here’s the real facts not just your liberal talking points!

    http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    OK, one, Forbes is essentially the beating heart of the right wing libertarian establishment. Whereas the Tax Foundation is a peer-reviewed non-profit. So that’s pretty fucking dumb to begin with. And, two, what the fuck do you expect Forbes to say? That the supply-side trickle-down economic theories they’ve been pushing for decades are an abject failure and should be scrapped? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Fact: hahahahahaha at all your liberal bullshit government tit sucking post! Wake-up bozo.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Alz said:
    Hmm, you forgot that when Clinton left office, that the dot-com crash came – which is where the “surplus” came from. The recession started before the Bush-Gore election. You don’t hear about it because the media covered for Democrats.

    The dot com crash came and went before the Bush administration, which was left with a large surplus, even larger projected surpluses and a very mild dip in the business cycle. Simple facts.

    Alz said:
    The deficit is not “conservative”, it’s liberal! It’s a lack of discipline, etc. And it doesn’t matter which party we’re talking about. Liberalism, whether practiced by Democrats or Republicans is wrong and it always leads to people getting hurt.

    Liberalism is not defined however you fucking feel like defining it. Being liberal isn’t defined as being undisciplined, it’s defined as being open minded and respectful of other ideas. Even though our kindness has been so thoroughly and consistently abused by conservatives, we still keep an open mind at our core. It’s why Obama is infuriatingly trying to negotiate with people who want him dead. It’s why Nancy Pelosi was able to pass more legislation than any House in decades. It’s who we are. Conservatives know that and take advantage of it every chance they get.

    I know how desperately you want to frame Bush’s unpaid-for tax cuts, his unpaid-for wars, and his unpaid-for expansions of entitlements and the government payroll as liberal actions, but you have to face facts – conservative politicians have sold you a bill of pie-in-the-sky goods, promising that you can have your cake and eat it, too. And when the jobs that are supposed to come and the riches that are supposed to trickle down never materialize, they blame liberals for not working hard enough. Fuck you.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: All your post are lefty so what are you adding to the discussion other than you’re a D-bagger and you lie and have a need or want to steal from others.

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Well that says it all a liberal Dan Quayle

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Again you lie here’s the real facts not just your liberal talking points!

    http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: hahahahahaha at all your liberal bullshit government tit sucking post! Wake-up bozo.

    It’s nice to have myths to believe in. You must feel very safe in your blissful ignorance. I mean, you linked to a graph that proved the deficit began under Bush’s policies, and won’t get larger than they were at their worst under Bush’s policies. They are projected to get smaller and larger, but nothing comes close to that massive leap from ’08 to ’09, which is the last fiscal year of the Bush budget. That level of willful ignorance is impressive. To be able to look ad definitive proof of your wrongness and still come away feeling right is truly inspiring. Way to go, jackass! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • Elaine B

    So there we are! So where are we?

  • Angstone

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: hahahahahaha at all your liberal bullshit government tit sucking post! Wake-up bozo.

    When translated from drunk angry Texan just off his shift at the Chick-Fil-A this roughly comes out to: “Ok, you got me – I’ve run out of blogs, GOPAC emails and Heritage foundation propaganda to regurgitate, and it’s all kinda confusing me anyhow. Also, someone had on CNN today and before I could dive to switch it to Fox, I noticed that David Stockman, Reagan’s Budget director, was on the air discussing that the entire Reagan doctrine of Trickle down and supply side economics — policy which he himself helped implement — was a complete disaster economically, and an honest look at that fact should shut down any further consideration of extending the Bush Tax cuts for the top income rate.”

  • Angstone

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: All your post are lefty so what are you adding to the discussion other than you’re a D-bagger and you lie and have a need or want to steal from others.

    Considering that I live in a blue state and you live in a red one, I am the one supporting you, whiz kid. And you can try to redirect the conversation to state governments, but that doesn’t address that fact that tax payers in Blue States pay the Fed more in taxes than they get back. Conversely, Tax payers in Red States get back more in Federal subsidies and services than they pay in. You’re Welcome.

    Also, it’s pretty easy to pinpoint from the way you write and the way you handle it when facts that you don’t like are introduced (Exhibit 1 of many: “hahahahahaha at all your liberal bullshit government tit sucking post!”) you probably didn’t make it through high school, and there’s zero chance you saw any college. Correlating that to average income pegged to highest level of education, it’s overwhelmingly probable that the progressives in this argument pay a chunk more in taxes than you do. Again whiz-kid, you’re welcome. We’re doing more for your benefit than your heroes on Fox or at the Heritage Foundation ever did.

  • Alz

    Paul Westlake said:
    The dot com crash came and went before the Bush administration, which was left with a large surplus, even larger projected surpluses and a very mild dip in the business cycle. Simple facts.

    Liberalism is not defined however you fucking feel like defining it. Being liberal isn’t defined as being undisciplined, it’s defined as being open minded and respectful of other ideas. Even though our kindness has been so thoroughly and consistently abused by conservatives, we still keep an open mind at our core. It’s why Obama is infuriatingly trying to negotiate with people who want him dead. It’s why Nancy Pelosi was able to pass more legislation than any House in decades. It’s who we are. Conservatives know that and take advantage of it every chance they get.

    I know how desperately you want to frame Bush’s unpaid-for tax cuts, his unpaid-for wars, and his unpaid-for expansions of entitlements and the government payroll as liberal actions, but you have to face facts – conservative politicians have sold you a bill of pie-in-the-sky goods, promising that you can have your cake and eat it, too. And when the jobs that are supposed to come and the riches that are supposed to trickle down never materialize, they blame liberals for not working hard enough. Fuck you.

    You goof, the dot com crash brought the gravy train of tax revenue to the government to an end. The “surplus” was built on the bubble. In terms of spending, if anything, it was the Republican Congress that pushed discipline on Clinton. Clinton was a spender, but no where near the irresponsible Obama and the current Congress.

    As for defining liberalism, I’ve studied them for a few years now. I was wondering why Liberals seem to be at the opposite end of every significant issue. I’d ask how could it be? We’re not talking about simple disagreements, but polar opposite thinking.

    Since today’s liberalism is foreign, I tried to figure them out. I think I have about 90% of you guys figured out. I’ve written about it before here, but for now, the best description is to watch Evan Sayet’s “How Modern Liberals Think” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c. Evan used to write for Bill Maher and Evan’s theory is fantastic.

  • Elaine B

    ALZ RIGHT ON!

    Liberalism are complete and total idiots. How are you ever going to get where you want to go???? How can you get to where you need to go with out roads, freeways, transportation that is funded by the government?

    You have to admit. Libertarians live in there own world. Very similar to the Fox viewer.

  • Elaine B

    Not for the stupid fox:

    You put money in your stock the democrat way and I will put money in my stock the republican way. Capitalism beats your socialism hands down. In your case handout!

    OMG dearie!! Could one person be this stupid!!

  • Elaine B

    Elaine B says:
    December 5, 2010 at 3:47 am Elaine B(Quote)
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    Not for the stupid fox:

    You put money in your stock the democrat way and I will put money in my stock the republican way. Capitalism beats your socialism hands down. In your case handout!

    OMG dearie!! Could one person be this stupid!!

    Hello.. Seriously.. I never wrote the above.. There is an impostor

  • Elaine B

    ok… maybe I did… lol!

  • Pablo

    Elaine B said:
    OMG dearie!! Could one person be this stupid!!

    Yes you can!

  • Pablo

    Paul Westlake said:
    They are projected to get smaller and larger, but nothing comes close to that massive leap from ‘08 to ‘09, which is the last fiscal year of the Bush budget.

    That is a lie. There was no Bush ’09 budget. Congress didn’t send Bush an ’09 budget. They passed continuing resolutions until Obama signed an ’09 budget. So, that massive leap? Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are it’s authors. Not Bush, Democrats.

  • Elaine B

    Selling Us Our Own Economic Demise

    Posted By Jim Fuller On December 4, 2010 @ 6:00 am In Economic Justice | 6 Comments

    One Wise Man e1291400320435 Selling Us Our Own Economic Demise If you’re still among the employed, or are retired and still getting your pension payments, you may nevertheless be feeling financially squeezed.

    Cheer up. It’s going to get much worse.

    That Social Security will be turned into a cash cow for the corporate elite and an unreliable source of income for the rest of us is a given.

    But you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. With the super rich now in control of the White House and Congress, they have begun an attack on a whole new set of goals, and those people are determined. Sherman’s march to the sea was a tea dance by comparison.

    It has begun with attacks on middle class pay levels and a propaganda campaign. Participants in the latter include the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, right wing “think tanks,” the elite’s agents within government and the corporate “news” media — all the usual crowd.

    So far the messages is fairly low key, but it is picking up intensity and volume at a remarkable rate.

    In the past year, several highly profitable corporations have demanded that their employees accept substantially lower pay and fewer benefits. Mott’s and Harley-Davidson among others, have not claimed financial hardship. They simply declare that because the U.S. economy is lousy for working people, and likely to remain so, they can get other people to work for far less, so their employees better take less or have the can tied to their tails.

    That take-back movement is growing rapidly. Several other companies are trying it on now.

    The propaganda began about the same time. As seen in newspaper stories and op-ed pieces, it promotes the idea that the employers are in the right and that American workers must lower their expectations and give up their

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Angstone said:
    Gordo,
    Only 46% of self identified republicans want the tax cuts extended for the very rich. So you are confusing your own opinion for the American people.

    Nice try, but when asked JUST about tax cuts for everyone, they support tax cuts for everyone. You have to twist the question to get your results. No surprise, that is what liars like you do.

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    It’s nice to have myths to believe in. You must feel very safe in your blissful ignorance. I mean, you linked to a graph that proved the deficit began under Bush’s policies, and won’t get larger than they were at their worst under Bush’s policies. They are projected to get smaller and larger, but nothing comes close to that massive leap from ‘08 to ‘09, which is the last fiscal year of the Bush budget. That level of willful ignorance is impressive. To be able to look ad definitive proof of your wrongness and still come away feeling right is truly inspiring. Way to go, jackass! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Fact: Even though your thoughts are for you alone as truths we the majority on the planet can have sympathy for your plight. So I say to you; “People with Mental Illness Enrich Our Lives” daily so thanks for your attempts at a normal lifestyle and keep plugging away at getting your facts straight! Dumbshit we hear your pain thru your post.

  • Just4thefax

    Angstone said:
    When translated from drunk angry Texan just off his shift at the Chick-Fil-A this roughly comes out to: “Ok, you got me – I’ve run out of blogs, GOPAC emails and Heritage foundation propaganda to regurgitate, and it’s all kinda confusing me anyhow. Also, someone had on CNN today and before I could dive to switch it to Fox, I noticed that David Stockman, Reagan’s Budget director, was on the air discussing that the entire Reagan doctrine of Trickle down and supply side economics — policy which he himself helped implement — was a complete disaster economically, and an honest look at that fact should shut down any further consideration of extending the Bush Tax cuts for the top income rate.”

    Fact: He was fired from his job what do you expect him to say that it really was his fault? Next time stay in the kiddy pool where you can go under water!

  • Just4thefax

    Angstone said:
    Considering that I live in a blue state and you live in a red one, I am the one supporting you, whiz kid. And you can try to redirect the conversation to state governments, but that doesn’t address that fact that tax payers in Blue States pay the Fed more in taxes than they get back. Conversely, Tax payers in Red States get back more in Federal subsidies and services than they pay in. You’re Welcome. Also, it’s pretty easy to pinpoint from the way you write and the way you handle it when facts that you don’t like are introduced (Exhibit 1 of many: “hahahahahaha at all your liberal bullshit government tit sucking post!”) you probably didn’t make it through high school, and there’s zero chance you saw any college. Correlating that to average income pegged to highest level of education, it’s overwhelmingly probable that the progressives in this argument pay a chunk more in taxes than you do. Again whiz-kid, you’re welcome. We’re doing more for your benefit than your heroes on Fox or at the Heritage Foundation ever did.

    Fact: Thanks for your attempt at posting pure liberal horse shit that no one takes seriously.

    Fact: America’s best days are in front of her — if only we have the guts to face the truth and apply ourselves to repairing the foundation upon which this blessed nation was formed. The doctor (Just4thefax) is in and the diagnosis is clear: in Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder, Conservatives provides a remedy to help freedom-loving Americans effectively medicate the mental disease of modern liberalism and restore America’s former brilliance. Modern liberalism: “made in much the same way as a sausage — it’s a blend of fascist, Communist, and socialist ideologies from twentieth century Europe, with a pinch of Nazism, all ground together, yet retaining the flavor of its various parts”. So it’s clear to me and also most here that post liberals are in need of help. So go get some free on Ozerocare! Dreamact Derelicts.

  • Just4thefax

    Elaine B said:
    Selling Us Our Own Economic Demise Posted By Jim Fuller On December 4, 2010 @ 6:00 am In Economic Justice | 6 Comments One Wise Man e1291400320435 Selling Us Our Own Economic Demise If you’re still among the employed, or are retired and still getting your pension payments, you may nevertheless be feeling financially squeezed. Cheer up. It’s going to get much worse. That Social Security will be turned into a cash cow for the corporate elite and an unreliable source of income for the rest of us is a given. But you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. With the super rich now in control of the White House and Congress, they have begun an attack on a whole new set of goals, and those people are determined. Sherman’s march to the sea was a tea dance by comparison. It has begun with attacks on middle class pay levels and a propaganda campaign. Participants in the latter include the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, right wing “think tanks,” the elite’s agents within government and the corporate “news” media — all the usual crowd. So far the messages is fairly low key, but it is picking up intensity and volume at a remarkable rate. In the past year, several highly profitable corporations have demanded that their employees accept substantially lower pay and fewer benefits. Mott’s and Harley-Davidson among others, have not claimed financial hardship. They simply declare that because the U.S. economy is lousy for working people, and likely to remain so, they can get other people to work for far less, so their employees better take less or have the can tied to their tails. That take-back movement is growing rapidly. Several other companies are trying it on now. The propaganda began about the same time. As seen in newspaper stories and op-ed pieces, it promotes the idea that the employers are in the right and that American workers must lower their expectations and give up their

    Fact: You are the Kleptomaniac that always wants to steal from other people’s pockets! Get a job loser earn it yourself!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ken-Hansen/1696941384 Ken Hansen

    The problem the Dem are having is that the GOP has a vision, they have all gotten behind that vision, and they are able to use their minority status to thwart the will of the Dem majority. Their vision? That either every American keep their current tax rates (keeping nearly $4 Trillion in estimated tax revenue over the next ten year in the hands of the folks that earned it) or every American has their taxes revert to Clinton-era rates, and $4 Trillion in additional tax revenues are generated to help pay for the activities of the federal government for the next ten years.

    Democrats are trying to win the votes of 98% of taxpayers by only increasing taxes on the other 2%, and when they can’t all agree on that, they tried to make it 99% vs 1% by making the threshold $1Million/year, and they couldn’t even get that to pass because they couldn’t peel off any GOP senators, and in fact lost 5 Dem Senators.

    Boo-Hoo.

    There is no path where-in the Dems get what they want, as long as the GOP sticks to their ‘all taxpayers created equal’ stance… Dems want the ‘they defended tax “cuts” for the wealthy’ sound bite for a later election, the GOP thinks it’s wrong to raise taxes on anyone during a recession. And, the GOP will give all Americans their current tax rates into the future come January, now that we know at least 5 Dem Senators support the GOP position.

  • Cecelia

    With the terrorists or the communists at the gate, and the imminent end of life as we know it, perhaps we should give in completely to intransigent tribalism.

    We could separate the country into Blue State and Red State territory, go to our separate areas, and when we’re not pelting each other with beer cans, we could hold summits where we discuss Keynesian economics with lots of “you suck, lol” and “stfu”.

  • disenlightened

    Cecelia said:
    With the terrorists or the communists at the gate, and the imminent end of life as we know it, perhaps we should give in completely to intransigent tribalism.

    We could separate the country into Blue State and Red State territory, go to our separate areas, and when we’re not pelting each other with beer cans, we could hold summits where we discuss Keynesian economics with lots of “you suck, lol” and “stfu”.

    Killer idea, but Blue states wouldn’t last long. No one would work and the Red states have all the weapons.

  • Cecelia

    disenlightened said:
    Killer idea, but Blue states wouldn’t last long. No one would work and the Red states have all the weapons.

    Are you kidding? I’m a Red Stater and I can’t wait to break away from those Type A Blue State folks.

    If it wasn’t for them coming down here with their impatience and work ethic, I could once again take fifteen unmolested minutes in the grocery line to find my billfold, and we could all drive a leisurely 45 mpr while checking out the neighborhood as though we’d been gone for a year.

    Now THAT’S livin’, ya all!.

  • Just4thefax

    Cecelia said:
    With the terrorists or the communists at the gate, and the imminent end of life as we know it, perhaps we should give in completely to intransigent tribalism. We could separate the country into Blue State and Red State territory, go to our separate areas, and when we’re not pelting each other with beer cans, we could hold summits where we discuss Keynesian economics with lots of “you suck, lol” and “stfu”.

    Cecelia said:
    Are you kidding? I’m a Red Stater and I can’t wait to break away from those Type A Blue State folks. If it wasn’t for them coming down here with their impatience and work ethic, I could once again take fifteen unmolested minutes in the grocery line to find my billfold, and we could all drive a leisurely 45 mpr while checking out the neighborhood as though we’d been gone for a year. Now THAT’S livin’, ya all!.

    Fact: God bless you and have a Merry Christmas!

  • Just4thefax

    Fact; Red States take all the money with in God we trust and they get the rest.

  • Cecelia

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: God bless you and have a Merry Christmas!

    You’ve gotten the spirit! See!

    Back atya, hombre!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Alz said:
    You goof, the dot com crash brought the gravy train of tax revenue to the government to an end. The “surplus” was built on the bubble. In terms of spending, if anything, it was the Republican Congress that pushed discipline on Clinton. Clinton was a spender, but no where near the irresponsible Obama and the current Congress.

    The surplus that you claim was built on the bubble that had already burst was still in existence when Bush came into office, along with surplus projections for years to come. Clinton passed welfare to workfare and closed the GOP budget deficit. Bush spent those surpluses on his totally unfunded agenda. Not once did the GOP step up and ask if what they were doing was fiscally responsible. Not once!

    Alz said:
    As for defining liberalism, I’ve studied them for a few years now. I was wondering why Liberals seem to be at the opposite end of every significant issue. I’d ask how could it be? We’re not talking about simple disagreements, but polar opposite thinking.

    Since today’s liberalism is foreign, I tried to figure them out. I think I have about 90% of you guys figured out. I’ve written about it before here, but for now, the best description is to watch Evan Sayet’s “How Modern Liberals Think” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c. Evan used to write for Bill Maher and Evan’s theory is fantastic.

    This is all very pleasant bullshit that is based on nothing. I don’t care that Evan was born and raised a NY liberal, he’s totally fucking wrong. Let’s just take a few lines from the first few minutes:

    “Come on let’s help America. And they said, ‘no, she deserves it.”

    Bullshit and fuck him for saying so! We were out IN FORCE, supporting President Bush and even supporting a war in Afghanistan that we KNEW wouldn’t work, but we went along anyway because the cons were in charge, we were unified as a nation, and they said they had a plan – not a good plan, but at least a plan. This kind of revisionism is disgusting! We were THERE! 100%! You fucking assholes! Fuck you! It was people like Jerry Falwell who said we “deserved” it. People on the right said it was “God’s punishment for abortion” and you have the fucking temerity to turn that shit on liberals? YOU ARE TRAITORS, ALL OF YOU!!! Fucking scum.

    But then it gets better:

    “How can you live in the least imperial power in human history and see us as the ultimate in imperialism?”

    This sentence denotes a willful denial of American history and a wholesale revisionism that is beneath contempt. You think the fucking Native American think of us as the least imperialist nation in human history? What the FUCK do you “manifest destiny” was all about, you idiot? We beat Mexico fair and square when we annexed Texas and negotiated for California, but we “annexed” Texas, AND Hawaii! Annexation is imperialism by definition!

    You fucking cretins believe that making an honest assessment of who we are and what our history has been is the equivalent of “hating America” when the picture we paint isn’t all roses and cherry blossoms. We are NOT perfect. We are super awesome in many ways, the light of the world even, but we are NOT perfect and pretending we are is exactly why conservative policy is ALWAYS a failure! Every single time! And this crap you’re spewing is totally specious, revisionism designed to make the REAL failures of conservatism SEEM like liberal ideas. They aren’t! The people who hate America and Americans are conservatives. Or do I need to remind you of all the times you’ve blamed “welfare queens” for corporate crimes!

    You’ve “studied” liberalism? Buddy, you haven’t “studied” anything! Your brain is a vacuum! And your heart is full of bile. People like you ARE the problem in America, fucking parasite.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Pablo said:
    That is a lie. There was no Bush ‘09 budget. Congress didn’t send Bush an ‘09 budget. They passed continuing resolutions until Obama signed an ‘09 budget. So, that massive leap? Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are it’s authors. Not Bush, Democrats.

    Continuing resolutions CONTINUE the policies from before, ergo, Bush’s budget. Good grief!

  • Patrick Henry

    Elaine B said:
    OMG dearie!! Could one person be this stupid!!

    Why certainly! You are!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Even though your thoughts are for you alone as truths we the majority on the planet can have sympathy for your plight. So I say to you; “People with Mental Illness Enrich Our Lives” daily so thanks for your attempts at a normal lifestyle and keep plugging away at getting your facts straight! Dumbshit we hear your pain thru your post.

    Translation: WAH!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Cecelia said:
    With the terrorists or the communists at the gate, and the imminent end of life as we know it, perhaps we should give in completely to intransigent tribalism.

    We could separate the country into Blue State and Red State territory, go to our separate areas, and when we’re not pelting each other with beer cans, we could hold summits where we discuss Keynesian economics with lots of “you suck, lol” and “stfu”.

    disenlightened said:
    Killer idea, but Blue states wouldn’t last long. No one would work and the Red states have all the weapons.

    Yeah no. WOuldn’t take long to see who the real earners are in this nation, and they ain’t in the South or Mountain West, kiddo!

    Cecilia, I’m in! 100% Tribalism it is! And New Yorkers getting to keep the money we send to red states is A-OK with me. Plus, wall building is a great jobs program. So let’s get cracking.

    Just remember, no soup for you! ;-)

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    Translation: WAH!

    Fact: Don’t go Elaine B on me now!

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: again; Liberals know so much that isn’t so!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Don’t go Elaine B on me now!

    Well then stop whining like a baby. You could also stop prefacing your lies with the word “fact” but that’s asking too much of a sophist to be sure. Baby steps for babies. ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    sorry fax, but paul is right on that new york only gets about 0.79 cents for each dollar sent to washington

    I don’t know how I missed this before but I’m guessing it has to do with being in the middle of a fight. ;-)

    CJD, we’ve had our differences and I’ve accused you of playing fast and loose with the facts in the past. And I really do take issue with the fact that I rarely see you offer up bona fide analysis, but I must acknowledge your support here. I still think you could offer us more of your insight than you do up front but I will be more circumspect in my assessment of your comments going forward. Truce. ;-)

  • Just4thefax

    Paul Westlake said:
    Well then stop whining like a baby. You could also stop prefacing your lies with the word “fact” but that’s asking too much of a sophist to be sure. Baby steps for babies. ;-)

    Fact: New Yorkers live right on the slop pan all over each other and can’t provide food for themselves without grocery stores that are filled from the good will’s of the south’s generosity! Now I know where you get the kleptomaniac mentality with the need for others to take care of you and others like you. Man-up take care of yourself and quit asking for handouts. Weakling.

  • Pablo

    Paul Westlake said:
    Continuing resolutions CONTINUE the policies from before, ergo, Bush’s budget. Good grief!

    Paul, you’re a fucking moron. The continuing resolutions continued the spending levels from ’08. You know, the time before that MASSIVE JUMP you were mentioning above. That MASSIVE JUMP came from the pen of Barack Obama.

    Really, are you that stupid or are you just dishonest? Do you expect to fool anyone?

  • disenlightened

    Paul Westlake said:
    I don’t know how I missed this before but I’m guessing it has to do with being in the middle of a fight. ;-)

    CJD, we’ve had our differences and I’ve accused you of playing fast and loose with the facts in the past. And I really do take issue with the fact that I rarely see you offer up bona fide analysis, but I must acknowledge your support here. I still think you could offer us more of your insight than you do up front but I will be more circumspect in my assessment of your comments going forward. Truce. ;-)

    That’s a cramped little brownstone you live in. Parking really sucks on that narrow little one way. All those trash cans out front. Ever eat at Elora’s? I hear it’s good.

    They get so much more for their money in Texas and Florida when it comes to housing. Swimming pools, lanais, big, fenced back yards for the kids and dogs to play.

  • disenlightened

    Oh, and Paul, those little 5,000 BTU window air conditioners in your building are cute. Haven’t seen one of those in years. Bet they really cool those apartments down in July!

  • Alz

    Paul Westlake said:
    The surplus that you claim was built on the bubble that had already burst was still in existence when Bush came into office, along with surplus projections for years to come. Clinton passed welfare to workfare and closed the GOP budget deficit. Bush spent those surpluses on his totally unfunded agenda. Not once did the GOP step up and ask if what they were doing was fiscally responsible. Not once!

    This is all very pleasant bullshit that is based on nothing. I don’t care that Evan was born and raised a NY liberal, he’s totally fucking wrong. Let’s just take a few lines from the first few minutes:

    “Come on let’s help America. And they said, ‘no, she deserves it.”

    Bullshit and fuck him for saying so! We were out IN FORCE, supporting President Bush and even supporting a war in Afghanistan that we KNEW wouldn’t work, but we went along anyway because the cons were in charge, we were unified as a nation, and they said they had a plan – not a good plan, but at least a plan. This kind of revisionism is disgusting! We were THERE! 100%! You fucking assholes! Fuck you! It was people like Jerry Falwell who said we “deserved” it. People on the right said it was “God’s punishment for abortion” and you have the fucking temerity to turn that shit on liberals? YOU ARE TRAITORS, ALL OF YOU!!! Fucking scum.

    But then it gets better:

    “How can you live in the least imperial power in human history and see us as the ultimate in imperialism?”

    This sentence denotes a willful denial of American history and a wholesale revisionism that is beneath contempt. You think the fucking Native American think of us as the least imperialist nation in human history? What the FUCK do you “manifest destiny” was all about, you idiot? We beat Mexico fair and square when we annexed Texas and negotiated for California, but we “annexed” Texas, AND Hawaii! Annexation is imperialism by definition!

    You fucking cretins believe that making an honest assessment of who we are and what our history has been is the equivalent of “hating America” when the picture we paint isn’t all roses and cherry blossoms. We are NOT perfect. We are super awesome in many ways, the light of the world even, but we are NOT perfect and pretending we are is exactly why conservative policy is ALWAYS a failure! Every single time! And this crap you’re spewing is totally specious, revisionism designed to make the REAL failures of conservatism SEEM like liberal ideas. They aren’t! The people who hate America and Americans are conservatives. Or do I need to remind you of all the times you’ve blamed “welfare queens” for corporate crimes!

    You’ve “studied” liberalism? Buddy, you haven’t “studied” anything! Your brain is a vacuum! And your heart is full of bile. People like you ARE the problem in America, fucking parasite.

    Come on. Everyone knew that the dot-com bubble would burst and that any deficit projections were fantasy. Clinton had no idea there would be a surplus. He was talking about deficits ‘as far as the eye can see” for a long time.

    And to say that Bush squandered it is therefore silly.

    BTW, concerning welfare reform, Clinton never would have done without the Republicans taking control of the House, but the real issue how your buddy Obama gutted welfare reform in one of the failed stimulus bills:
    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=obama%20welfare%20reform&aq=1&aqi=g4g-o1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=cc7ad1a43d378bba&pf=p&pdl=300

    Yep, we’re going to to the old liberals ways of guaranteeing more people are enslaved and made dependent.

    As for Evan Sayet, Evan’s theory is right on: you guys are different. Here’s the link again: “How Modern Liberals Think” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Pablo said:
    Paul, you’re a fucking moron. The continuing resolutions continued the spending levels from ‘08. You know, the time before that MASSIVE JUMP you were mentioning above. That MASSIVE JUMP came from the pen of Barack Obama.

    Really, are you that stupid or are you just dishonest? Do you expect to fool anyone?

    Obama was sworn-in in January of 2009. They are Bush’s policies failing before your eyes as the economy crumbled, jobs were lost and tax revenues fell. Those are facts. Shutup now… football!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    disenlightened said:
    That’s a cramped little brownstone you live in. Parking really sucks on that narrow little one way. All those trash cans out front. Ever eat at Elora’s? I hear it’s good.

    They get so much more for their money in Texas and Florida when it comes to housing. Swimming pools, lanais, big, fenced back yards for the kids and dogs to play.

    I’ll take my part of Brooklyn over the flatlands and strip malls of Texas and Florida every day of the week. Though I love two things about Florida: the clouds, and the speed limits – both designed fast!

    Oh, thanks for stalking me. Proves I’m real and you’re a pussy for commenting anonymously… just like all your reactionary friends… except Gordon. And isn’t that sad. You guys actually make Gordon look good!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    OK, football now.

    Go Giants! ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    For this you’re an idiot…

    Alz said:
    Come on. Everyone knew that the dot-com bubble would burst and that any deficit projections were fantasy. Clinton had no idea there would be a surplus. He was talking about deficits ‘as far as the eye can see” for a long time.

    And to say that Bush squandered it is therefore silly.

    BTW, concerning welfare reform, Clinton never would have done without the Republicans taking control of the House, but the real issue how your buddy Obama gutted welfare reform in one of the failed stimulus bills:
    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=obama%20welfare%20reform&aq=1&aqi=g4g-o1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=cc7ad1a43d378bba&pf=p&pdl=300

    And for this you’re a sophist un-American pig…

    Alz said:
    Yep, we’re going to to the old liberals ways of guaranteeing more people are enslaved and made dependent.

    As for Evan Sayet, Evan’s theory is right on: you guys are different. Here’s the link again: “How Modern Liberals Think” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c.

    Enjoy your day, parasite.

  • Cecelia

    Paul Westlake said:
    Yeah no. WOuldn’t take long to see who the real earners are in this nation, and they ain’t in the South or Mountain West, kiddo!

    Cecilia, I’m in! 100% Tribalism it is! And New Yorkers getting to keep the money we send to red states is A-OK with me. Plus, wall building is a great jobs program. So let’s get cracking.

    Just remember, no soup for you! ;-)

    We don’t do soup, boy! We got brunswick stew and cornbread.

    We’ve got magnolias and spanish moss too.

    Now you better get started on that wall. Why not just anyone can build a wall. Only people like you splendiferously excellent Blue Staters! You guys really know what you’re doing when it comes to wall building.

    Mind if I sit and admire your dazzlingly awesome skills?

    (Oh, and we have Tom Sawyer ala Mark Twain.)

  • J Baustian

    How would Mendendez know whether working with Republicans is like negotiating with terrorists? He has never done either, so he has no basis for comparison.

  • disenlightened

    Paul Westlake said:
    I’ll take my part of Brooklyn over the flatlands and strip malls of Texas and Florida every day of the week. Though I love two things about Florida: the clouds, and the speed limits – both designed fast!

    Oh, thanks for stalking me. Proves I’m real and you’re a pussy for commenting anonymously… just like all your reactionary friends… except Gordon. And isn’t that sad. You guys actually make Gordon look good!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    OK, football now.

    Go Giants! ;-)

    I understand why you left Iowa. God-awful place, really. Almost as bad as those high-rent ghettos of Brooklyn. I spent some time in Williamsburg, near Broadway and Hewes. So depressing and dirty.

  • Alz

    Paul Westlake said:
    For this you’re an idiot…

    And for this you’re a sophist un-American pig…

    Enjoy your day, parasite.

    Typical liberal…your ideas are bankrupt, yet you cling to them. The only thing left you have is childish name calling.

    I stand by everything I say here and if I’m wrong, i’ll admit and adapt, but you are stuck in some la-la land.

  • Pablo

    Paul Westlake said:
    Obama was sworn-in in January of 2009.

    Yes, and then he signed the FY ’09 budget. Go masturbate someplace else.

  • CAconservative

    What Menendez is talking about is higher taxes on businesses to pay for his lack of fiduciary responsibility that has put this country in the economic mess it’s in. This vermin, along with a host of other scumbags in Washington believe that we, the taxpayers, are their personal bank, and as long as they can right the checks, we’ll keep paying for it like the good little sheeple we’re suppose to be. Hopefully, we will see a bigger gutting of Washington in 2012.

  • notsofast

    Paul Westlake said:
    No shit, Sherlock. They have deficits because the red states don’t pay their own way and depend on taxpayers form blue states to make up the difference.

    You dumbass, California, NY, CT and Mass are BLUE states.

    man, are you stupid.

  • notsofast

    armwood said:
    You conveniently forget that the stimulus package is what saved up from another great depression.

    LOL

    It did nothing, you clown.

    They said if it passed unemployment wouldn’t exceed 8%!

    It just hit 9.8% loser!

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    The republican have had congress up until 2 years ago and again now.

    LOL- you are one stupid lib!

    The Dims took control of Congress in the 11/2006 election, child.

    It was in all the papers, dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “Democrats Win Control of Congress

    By JIM KUHNHENN
    The Associated Press
    Thursday, November 9, 2006; 10:34 AM

    WASHINGTON — In a rout once considered almost inconceivable, Democrats won a 51st seat in the Senate and regained total control of Congress after 12 years of near-domination by the Republican Party.

    The shift dramatically alters the government’s balance of power, leaving President Bush without GOP congressional control to drive his legislative agenda. Democrats hailed the results and issued calls for bipartisanship even as they vowed to investigate administration policies and decisions.”

    LOL

    You are a dumb libby!

  • notsofast

    skyfet said:
    @notsofast
    It appears to me this character(notsofast) is recommended decapitation of a sitting Unite States Senator. Whose side are you on? Are you with us or the Terrorists?

    Wrong child. Menendez just compared Repubs to terrorists and that’s what TERRORISTS do, dbag!

  • notsofast

    Elaine B said:
    Bill Adkins, Paul Westlake and Sarah P,

    You are the 4 dumbest people ever.

  • skyfet

    @notsofast
    Your actions is treason. You need to be put in check.

  • jamesalfred

    Terrotists? Not only does this make the guy sound like a world class Ahole, it also kinda diminishes the evil of real terrorists doesn’t it?

    http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/

  • Alz

    notsofast said:
    LOL- you are one stupid lib!

    The Dims took control of Congress in the 11/2006 election, child.

    It was in all the papers, dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “Democrats Win Control of Congress

    By JIM KUHNHENN
    The Associated Press
    Thursday, November 9, 2006; 10:34 AM

    WASHINGTON — In a rout once considered almost inconceivable, Democrats won a 51st seat in the Senate and regained total control of Congress after 12 years of near-domination by the Republican Party.

    The shift dramatically alters the government’s balance of power, leaving President Bush without GOP congressional control to drive his legislative agenda. Democrats hailed the results and issued calls for bipartisanship even as they vowed to investigate administration policies and decisions.”

    LOL

    You are a dumb libby!

    Exactly.

    The liberals have to hide the fact that they have controlled Congress for so long.

    …just like they totally ignore the fact that they have utterly controlled the inner cities for 50 years – look at the results of the liberalism! Hopelessness, despair and death.

  • Nachi

    They are indeed terrorists. Too in-bred and uneducated to realize it. The lot of them should be taken out and – - – - by the misfits who elected them. The GOP, like the history of the common roach & rat, continues to spread its vermin from sea to shining sea. Intellectual insects spreading dear to the uneducated masses.
    Angry at a world they are too mentally unequipped to comprehend. Hurtling the nation continuously toward complete destruction. Ala RayGun & the 2 BushDrunks.

  • Pablo

    Nachi said:
    They are indeed terrorists. Too in-bred and uneducated to realize it.

    There seems to be someone too inbred and uneducated to know what a terrorist is…and it’s YOU!

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    Sen. Bob Menendez speaks from his heart and feels some negotiators on the other side act as if they are talking without reason and sincerity. He may feel this way because Boehner and McConnell both continue to say it is the small businesses that are creating 70% of jobs and in the second breath they claim the Super Rich need the tax benefits to produce jobs. They then insist we need to pay down the deficit and in a second breath they insist on spending another 750 billion to give the Super Rich a tax cut extension.
    This gives me the feeling someone is either mixed up in thought or they are trying to help some friends in higher places.

  • Alz

    uggugg said:
    Sen. Bob Menendez speaks from his heart and feels some negotiators on the other side act as if they are talking without reason and sincerity. He may feel this way because Boehner and McConnell both continue to say it is the small businesses that are creating 70% of jobs and in the second breath they claim the Super Rich need the tax benefits to produce jobs. They then insist we need to pay down the deficit and in a second breath they insist on spending another 750 billion to give the Super Rich a tax cut extension.
    This gives me the feeling someone is either mixed up in thought or they are trying to help some friends in higher places.

    We can’t pay down the deficit by attacking the people who create jobs. The Republicans are being consistent and they are correct.

    On the other hand, the liberals are wrong on this subject and their class warfare angle s sickening.

    All from ONE chart at http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html The top 10% pay about 70% of the income taxes, the top 1% pay about as much as the bottom 95% and the bottom half pay about zero (3%) in federal taxes.

    I blame the Democrats for most of this.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Cecelia said:
    We don’t do soup, boy! We got brunswick stew and cornbread.

    We’ve got magnolias and spanish moss too.

    Now you better get started on that wall. Why not just anyone can build a wall. Only people like you splendiferously excellent Blue Staters! You guys really know what you’re doing when it comes to wall building.

    Mind if I sit and admire your dazzlingly awesome skills?

    (Oh, and we have Tom Sawyer ala Mark Twain.)

    Some people call gumbo soup, some call it stew. But “no soup for you” is Seinfeld. And before you start accusing me of being all elitist and shit… I hated that show. It just had it’s moments. ;-)

    Trust me, nothing would make me happier than forcing all the people from red states to stay the fuck out of my city! Nothing! We get plenty of tourists from rational parts of the country (and world) and I’m tired of explaining that there’s isn’t a Walmart here, that the nearest Applebee’s is in Jersey City, and that no, the middle of the street is not a parking space. I know you think I’m the stupidest thing in NYC, but it’s actually someone like you standing on a street corner loudly complaining about how awful New York is. Go the fuck home!

    LOL!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    disenlightened said:
    I understand why you left Iowa. God-awful place, really. Almost as bad as those high-rent ghettos of Brooklyn. I spent some time in Williamsburg, near Broadway and Hewes. So depressing and dirty.

    Williamsburg sucks. Pretentious hipsters from red states pretending to be cool by not caring about anything. No wonder that was your hangout!

    If you think I’m from Iowa, your research has reached the limits of its usefulness. ;-)

    But you just reminded me of one of my favorite Jame Tiberius Kirk moments, from Star Trek IV…

    Woman: “You’re from outer space?”

    Kirk: “No, I’m from Iowa. I just work in outer space.”

    I know I just opened the door to juvenile insults, but that was classic Kirk and classic Shatner!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Alz said:
    Typical liberal…your ideas are bankrupt, yet you cling to them. The only thing left you have is childish name calling.

    I stand by everything I say here and if I’m wrong, i’ll admit and adapt, but you are stuck in some la-la land.

    You stand for everything but you have no facts to back anything up. You never did and you never will. Just because I decided to berate you instead of refute you detail for detail once, doesn’t mean my ideas are bankrupt. In fact, the big liberal idea that worked and that we’re still enjoying is called “America.” Liberals made it as conservatives fought against it and conservatives have fought to destroy all that is good about America from even before its founding. You are forever on the wrong side of logic and history.

    Alz said:
    I blame the Democrats for most of this.

    No, you blame Democrats for everything under the stars. You blame liberals for the sunset. You’re a joke.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Pablo said:
    Yes, and then he signed the FY ‘09 budget. Go masturbate someplace else.

    You mean this one, signed by George W Bush…

    - http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy09/pdf/budget/message.pdf

    You are one dedicated cretin. LOL

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    notsofast said:
    You dumbass, California, NY, CT and Mass are BLUE states.

    man, are you stupid.

    Aw, frizzy, I know the truth hurts. But you shouldn’t be so obvious about showing your pain. Makes you look like the coward you are when you can’t face the truth.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Alz said:
    We can’t pay down the deficit by attacking the people who create jobs. The Republicans are being consistent and they are correct.

    Just to keep this bullshit from standing…

    What jobs are the “job creators” creating? Where was the jobs boom when the Bush tax cuts were passed in the first place? Never fucking happened. No, you don’t create jobs by giving more money to people who already have enough to create more jobs and aren’t doing it. You can’t force companies to create jobs. You can give them incentives, and tax breaks aren’t an incentive. You know what is? CUSTOMERS! Businesses don’t create jobs for non-existent customers. They create jobs to fill increased DEMAND! Want to increase supply? First increase demand. This is basic fucking economics 101. The conservative ideology is supply-side, and cannot create customers. Liberal policy is demand-side, creates customers, and incentivizes job growth. This is how ALL free-market economies work, have ALWAYS worked, and WILL ALWAYS work. You CANNOT show one SHRED of evidence that shows conservative economic policy makes sense or has actually WORKED in the REAL world. It hasn’t. It won’t. That’s it. These are economic postulates, not theories. They are proven. Time and time again. ALL economists NOT working for the right wing agree on these basic economic principles and continually show how it has and continues to work. ALL OF THEM!

    You’re an anonymous hack which means one of three things: 1) you’re a corporate executive who spends about six hours a week actually working and don’t like the idea of having to actually earn a living for a change, 2) you’re working for 1, or 3) you’re a total fucking moron. My money is on 3!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Pablo said:
    There seems to be someone too inbred and uneducated to know what a terrorist is…and it’s YOU!

    Guess he touched a nerve, eh, Pabs. HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • voteRush2012

    Is it not incredible that the same people who will not call those who fly airplanes into our buildings, or blow up school buses, terrorists, but will call those who have a different philosophical view about taxation, terrorists!

    Today’s Demo-Rat party would is better suited to RULING in the Soviet Union, or a Third World dictatorship than a democratic Republic, where opposing views are DEBATED!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

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