Glenn Beck got fired.

Bye bye fattie. May as well get your Nazi cracks in now. In another few months you’ll be speaking to emptiness.

Funny Color me Ignorant since he’s still on the air.

And ps, as usual, you libs can’t debate him on the substance of what he says.

What? We should buy gold again? Or should we sell it now to buy bus ticket to israel for second coming of Jesus in the form of Glenn beck? Too confusing? Gold or Jesus?

Glenn Beck is a lunatic who appeals to lunatics. Plenty of fringe nut jobs on this board who would strip to havdeBacks baby.

When is he coming out? That show I’ll watch. He needs to do it quick, though. Time is running out. I’ll be he cries when he does it. He’s been holding it in so long…

King Obama is absolutely the Neville Chamberlain of Muslim appeasement .

And certainly the Joe Kennedy of it .

So now he’s recycling stuff. um… he’s stuff is so tired. When is he off the air?

I compare Beck to a bunch grub worms that you run over with your car,

The Lantern of Truth said:
King Obama is absolutely the Neville Chamberlain of Muslim appeasement .

And certainly the Joe Kennedy of it .

Have no idea what you are talking about do you?

When the zombie attacks begin , Obama will appease them too . He’ll make a speech about how the U.S. is really a zombie nation , and most zombies are peaceful and mean us no harm . He’ll also repurpose the space program to make zombies feel good about themselves .

I’m wondering how many think that when beck turns over in the morning and sees his wife, he cuts lose with a massive hurl?

The Lantern of Truth said:
When the zombie attacks begin , Obama will appease them too . He’ll make a speech about how the U.S. is really a zombie nation , and most zombies are peaceful and mean us no harm . He’ll also repurpose the space program to make zombies feel good about themselves .

You are the zombie, so how do you explain that?

Fox News is really going all in with this Islamophobia.

Dunno if Hussein is the Neville Chamberlain player today, or is playing the role of Hitler himself. He definitely sends messages to Muslim terrorists in not-so-subtle ways that he is a “friendly,” just as his fellow socialist Hitler did.

Glenn Beck is a great American. He passionately loves this nation and is relentless in his pursuit of America’s salvation from the assaults from anti-American Democrats, and self-serving Republicans. Because he is sincere in his patriotism and humble in his service to God, Beck is and will always be targeted in every way imaginable by America’s enemies…………Democrats/Communists everywhere.

Sam M. said:
I’m wondering how many think that when beck turns over in the morning and sees his wife, he cuts lose with a massive hurl?

Garth . Do you have any human feeling in you ? Do you think it’s right to insult a man’s wife , the mother of his children ?

Stick with your stupid 100-150 garbage , tiresome insults per night . But no more wives .

MEDIAITE , DAN ABRAMS – THIS CREEP IS DRIVING PEOPLE AWAY FROM YOUR WEBSITE .

Beck is retarded to call President Obama anything close to an appeaser – after all he is employing more drones, bombs, and pressure on Afghan/Pakistan (Al Queda Home Field) than Bushy-boy ever thought about.

Oh, and he killed Bin Laden too.

Just STFU Beck – you are a proven idiot – go hawk some overpriced Goldline coins to shut-in Fundies.

Davo said:
Dunno if Hussein is the Neville Chamberlain player today, or is playing the role of Hitler himself. He definitely sends messages to Muslim terrorists in not-so-subtle ways that he is a “friendly,” just as his fellow socialist Hitler did.

Glenn Beck is a great American. He passionately loves this nation and is relentless in his pursuit of America’s salvation from the assaults from anti-American Democrats, and self-serving Republicans. Because he is sincere in his patriotism and humble in his service to God, Beck is and will always be targeted in every way imaginable by America’s enemies…………Democrats/Communists everywhere.

You Bush rednecks have no grasp of reality.

kvon said:
Fox News is really going all in with this Islamophobia.

Does the news that Iran is building missile bases in Venezuela concern you at all? Would you like to see little Iran Jr’s popping up in Egypt, Yemen, Turkey, Syria, Tunisia?

Accused of being an appeaser by Glenn Goebbels — priceless.

brownsound said:
Does the news that Iran is building missile bases in Venezuela concern you at all? Would you like to see little Iran Jr’s popping up in Egypt, Yemen, Turkey, Syria, Tunisia?

That is called the Bush Doctrine in part – thank Dumbya for lighting a fire under Hamas and the New Caliphate (Iran/Iraq).

Glenn Beck Compares Obama And The Left To 1930s Nazi Appeasers

Beck is right again about what’s really going on in the world, but more troubling in a Barack Obama amerika.

Obama will give another one of his deftly encoded ” Death To America ” speeches to his muslim brothers in the Middle East tomorrow morning….make no mistake about it.

kvon said:
Fox News is really going all in with this Islamophobia.

What Islamophbia?

Barack Must Go said:
Obama will give another one of his deftly encoded ” Death To America ” speeches to his muslim brothers in the Middle East tomorrow morning….make no mistake about it.

Another deranged pickle-smoocher comes up for air.

Color Me Badd said:
Glenn Beck got fired.

I’ve been fired before. I wish they had let me continue showing up for work after I was “fired”.

Girth Brick said:
That is called the Bush Doctrine in part – thank Dumbya for lighting a fire under Hamas and the New Caliphate (Iran/Iraq).

I avoid commenting on Beck posts. I’m no fan of Bush and I’m no fan of Obama. You should read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/18/osama-bin-laden-recording-released_n_863946.html

“Osama..praised revolutions sweeping the Arab world, and expressed joy at the victory of uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia. ”

Oh, and please…women driving a car light a fire under Hamas. South Park lights a fire. Homosexuals light a fire. Salman Rushdie lights a fire. Theo Van Gough lights a fire. And yes, Obama lights a fire. Why even try to assign blame for irrational actions of religious zealots?

Moral Relativism sucks.

Sam M. said:
I compare Beck to a bunch grub worms that you run over with your car,

Yeah right. Like you’re old enough to drive. You mean your BigWheels?

Girth Brick said:
That is called the Bush Doctrine in part – thank Dumbya for lighting a fire under Hamas and the New Caliphate (Iran/Iraq).

The “fire” was lit in the 7th century, bud. The Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and Hezbollah all existed and craved power before GWB. It’s easy to look up.

YAWN. We’re Nazis, terrorists, evil, satanic, america hating, yada yada yada.

Does Beck do ANYTHING new or original? Guys like this were around when TV wasn’t invented. Even during the times of the cavemen some fat hacks clubbed people on the head and went “YOU ALL BAD. ME ALL GOOD”.

Girth Brick said:
Another deranged pickle-smoocher comes up for air.

Pithy as usual, in your annoying white shit that’s impossible to remove from the lemon sort of way…….but hey at least you’re trying…right ?

Raygun said:
YAWN. We’re Nazis, terrorists, evil, satanic, america hating, yada yada yada.

Does Beck do ANYTHING new or original? Guys like this were around when TV wasn’t invented. Even during the times of the cavemen some fat hacks clubbed people on the head and went “YOU ALL BAD. ME ALL GOOD”.

You pretty stoopid…

Liberal Tormentor said:
And ps, as usual, you libs can’t debate him on the substance of what he says.

Godwin’s law has been invoked, it’s best just to laugh at the people who didn’t pass 8th grade history.

Hey remember when right wingers were calling JFK a Nazi sympathizers? Ah, some things never change, especially when you’re dealing with morons.

turk281 said:
I avoid commenting on Beck posts. I’m no fan of Bush and I’m no fan of Obama. You should read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/18/osama-bin-laden-recording-released_n_863946.html

“Osama..praised revolutions sweeping the Arab world, and expressed joy at the victory of uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia. ”

Oh, and please…women driving a car light a fire under Hamas. South Park lights a fire. Homosexuals light a fire. Salman Rushdie lights a fire. Theo Van Gough lights a fire. And yes, Obama lights a fire. Why even try to assign blame for irrational actions of religious zealots?

Moral Relativism sucks.

Yeah but you’ve failed to mention Obama lights a fire, then holds it up to his ass while he farts into the wind.

A real crowd please that one. Really special (ed ).

The Lantern of Truth said:
When the zombie attacks begin , Obama will appease them too . He’ll make a speech about how the U.S. is really a zombie nation , and most zombies are peaceful and mean us no harm . He’ll also repurpose the space program to make zombies feel good about themselves .

When is that zombie invasion again? Or has Glenn not told you yet?

turk281 said:
I avoid commenting on Beck posts. I’m no fan of Bush and I’m no fan of Obama. You should read this:

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That is my point.

Beck and others are trying to tout this Arab Spring as some new-fangled thing occurring due to Obama “weakness” while Dumbya was tough on zealots.

Condi Rice called the same thing democratic “growing pains” and the Beckerhead never said a thing.

Girth Brick said:
Beck and others are trying to tout this Arab Spring as some new-fangled thing occurring due to Obama “weakness” while Dumbya was tough on zealots.

Due to Obama? When did he say that?

Girth Brick said:
That is my point.

Beck and others are trying to tout this Arab Spring as some new-fangled thing occurring due to Obama “weakness” while Dumbya was tough on zealots.

Condi Rice called the same thing democratic “growing pains” and the Beckerhead never said a thing.

I wouldn’t say that 0bama weakness is being touted as a reason for it. What’s being said is that the “Arab Spring” isn’t some benevolent democracy movement that idealistic students will control. The warning is that the Islamists are primed to hijack the “spring” and turn the entire region into a hotbed of religious zealotry. The 0bamabots in gov’t and media refuse to recognize what’s actually happening

RhapsodyinBlue said:
Godwin’s law has been invoked, it’s best just to laugh at the people who didn’t pass 8th grade history.

It’s even better to laugh at people who have no idea what Godwin’s Law is.

Oh, here we go again. Nazi appeasers. Yeesh!

Nobody lit a fire. Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood and lots and lots of people in general simply hate the Jews. They didn’t need help with that. They have always hated us and most likely always will. The Nazis weren’t the first to try to wipe us out and most of the folks I know are pretty sure Hamas, et al won’t be the last.

SmartAlec said:
I’ve been fired before. I wish they had let me continue showing up for work after I was “fired”.

Yeah. I was kind of wondering how he got fired and still has a parking space.

Girth Brick said:
That is my point.

Beck and others are trying to tout this Arab Spring as some new-fangled thing occurring due to Obama “weakness” while Dumbya was tough on zealots.

Condi Rice called the same thing democratic “growing pains” and the Beckerhead never said a thing.

Obama’s encouragement and backing, before he backed away from that backing has forced Israel and the United States into the most perilous postion either has had to face in the past 60 years.

Tomorrow he will deliver his ” Death To America, Death To Israel ” speech that could quite possibly trigger the start of ‘ World War Three ‘, yet you libs kneel before him as your false god and saviour, sucking his joint…….that’s what’s crazy, not Beck.

You’re just to dumb and or paralyzed with fear to face the reality of the Middle East / North Africa / Barack Hussein Obama ll relationship and how terrible for America / Israel / the entire free world that ( No one really knows what the hell is going on ) that fact can be.

Girth Brick said:
That is my point.

Beck and others are trying to tout this Arab Spring as some new-fangled thing occurring due to Obama “weakness” while Dumbya was tough on zealots.

Condi Rice called the same thing democratic “growing pains” and the Beckerhead never said a thing.

I’m not qualified to speak on Beck’s show because it’s not part of my must see tv. But wouldn’t it be fair to say the glowing coverage of Arab Spring throughout the media over the last few months has almost entirely neglected the fact that religious extremists seem to be at the forefront of these revolutions?

The Iranian revolutions brought us the Mullahs. Just because citizens topple a bad government doesn’t mean it’s something that needs to be lauded. Especially when the opposition turns out to be worse.

Liberal Tormentor said:
And ps, as usual, you libs can’t debate him on the substance of what he says.

There’s nothing to debate, moron. Saying that my belief in the Arab people’s right to self-governance is equal to sympathizing with nazis is ludicrous. They’re overthrowing the Hitler equivalents in this movement.

turk281 said:
The Iranian revolutions brought us the Mullahs. Just because citizens topple a bad government doesn’t mean it’s something that needs to be lauded. Especially when the opposition turns out to be worse.

And the Cedar Revolution, while very well intentioned, brought us Iran’s proxy, Hezbollah, in charge of Lebanon. It really doesn’t matter who can take down a government. It’s who can take over next.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
There’s nothing to debate, moron. Saying that my belief in the Arab people’s right to self-governance is equal to sympathizing with nazis is ludicrous. They’re overthrowing the Hitler equivalents in this movement.

The “arab people” will be run over by the Islamists. Self-government as you call it will be no different than the Mullahs in Iran, who are Islamo-Nazis. Appeasing them is no different than appeasing Hitler.

brownsound said:
I wouldn’t say that 0bama weakness is being touted as a reason for it.

That is what Beck is saying and why he is being pointed out as a hypocritical liar.

brownsound said:
The “arab people” will be run over by the Islamists. Self-government as you call it will be no different than the Mullahs in Iran, who are Islamo-Nazis. Appeasing them is no different than appeasing Hitler.

That’s a logical fallacy. The results of one country does NOT mean that the others will suffer the same fate no matter how much you want it to. You have no proof for what you’re saying. You’re going to the worst possible scenario. There’s a difference between saying “People deserve to choose their leaders” and saying “No Jews are dying in Germany”. Please stop being a partisan moron.

Girth Brick said:
That is what Beck is saying and why he is being pointed out as a hypocritical liar.

You’re going to have to quote him saying that.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
There’s nothing to debate, moron. Saying that my belief in the Arab people’s right to self-governance is equal to sympathizing with nazis is ludicrous. They’re overthrowing the Hitler equivalents in this movement.

They are? Who’s the Hitler equivalent that’s been overthrown? And in what movement? Is it all one movement? You’re starting to sound like Glenn Beck.

When one does what others did in history, you can’t compare them for reference? Put aside the issue that one IS factually copying history of another (fair to debate), but if one is proven that one is copying history of another, then why can’t Beck compare the too without YOU (Mediate) getting all hysterical just because the comparison is of Obama to Nazi appeasers! Hello, stick to the meat of the argument & not wave the red herring!

turk281 said:
I’m not qualified to speak on Beck’s show because it’s not part of my must see tv. But wouldn’t it be fair to say the glowing coverage of Arab Spring throughout the media over the last few months has almost entirely neglected the fact that religious extremists seem to be at the forefront of these revolutions?

The Iranian revolutions brought us the Mullahs. Just because citizens topple a bad government doesn’t mean it’s something that needs to be lauded. Especially when the opposition turns out to be worse.

When Iran overthrew the Shah, we were his backup. We overthrew the first freely elected govt. there in 1953 to protect big oil (sound familiar?). The Mullahs filled the leadership vacuum.
In Egypt and Libya, the people see the US as supporting them, not the Hitlers they have had.
You don’t bomb people into liking you. You help them free themselves.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
That’s a logical fallacy..

Exactly. Turkey and Indonesia have huge Muslim populations and don’t elect radical leaders these days.

Perfect analogy, especially since Neville Chamberlain had Hitler killed when he was hiding out in Pakistan.

TheEagle said:
Perfect analogy, especially since Neville Chamberlain had Hitler killed when he was hiding out in Pakistan.

LMAO! Great line. A one sentence truth spear.

The Beckerheads won’t get it though.

I knew Beck couldn’t stay away from comparing Obama to Hitler for long. How bout I compare Beck to Goebbels, that is a lot more realistic.

Girth Brick said:
Exactly. Turkey and Indonesia have huge Muslim populations and don’t elect radical leaders these days.

Are you at all familiar with Recep Erdogan? I’m guessing no. Let’s just say he’s devout.

insideguy said:
I knew Beck couldn’t stay away from comparing Obama to Hitler for long. How bout I compare Beck to Goebbels, that is a lot more realistic.

You, sir, are an idiot. Beck did not compare Obama to Hitler. Major comprehension fail.

I don’t think many people have stopped to consider precisely what it is the Islamic jihadists have in mind for the rest of the world. They consider Israel the “little satan” and the US the “great satan.” All any rational human being has to do is to listen to their words–destroy Israel first and then destroy the US. I find it odd, in particular, that no one is picking up on the fact that Iran is building missile launching facilities in Venezuela. What could that be all about?

insideguy said:
I knew Beck couldn’t stay away from comparing Obama to Hitler for long. How bout I compare Beck to Goebbels, that is a lot more realistic.

I’m not entirely sure that Glenn Beck has compared Mr. 0bama to Hitler–in fact, I don’t think he has at all. Neville Chamberlain, maybe, but not Hitler.

Damn Straight, Glenn Beck, Damn Straight…!!! Go for it…

X-3 said:
I’m not entirely sure that Glenn Beck has compared Mr. 0bama to Hitler–in fact, I don’t think he has at all. Neville Chamberlain, maybe, but not Hitler.

Which is why Beck is a liar. Bush was much more of an appeaser when he folded on Afghan/Pakistan and gave up on Bin Laden.

Girth Brick said:
Which is why Beck is a liar. Bush was much more of an appeaser when he folded on Afghan/Pakistan and gave up on Bin Laden.

Aside from being an example of raging fact deficiency, what is that even supposed to mean? Assuming for the sake of argument that your facts were actual facts (which they are obviously not) how does that make Beck a liar? You make no sense, son. And you’re an awfully bad liar.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
That’s a logical fallacy. The results of one country does NOT mean that the others will suffer the same fate no matter how much you want it to. You have no proof for what you’re saying. You’re going to the worst possible scenario. There’s a difference between saying “People deserve to choose their leaders” and saying “No Jews are dying in Germany”. Please stop being a partisan moron.

The Muslim Brotherhood is poised to take over in Egypt. Christians are being persecuted and the “gov’t” is looking the other way. Take off your blinders. Their isn’t going to be a western style democracy “no matter how much you want there to be”

Girth Brick said:
Exactly. Turkey and Indonesia have huge Muslim populations and don’t elect radical leaders these days.

I never mentioned Indonesia. Turkey on the other hand is quickly moving towards theocracy, has actively sought to undermine Israel and is cultivating ties with Iran. FACT.

Pablo said:
Aside from being an example of raging fact deficiency, what is that even supposed to mean? Assuming for the sake of argument that your facts were actual facts (which they are obviously not) how does that make Beck a liar? You make no sense, son. And you’re an awfully bad liar.

Its a fact that Bush abandoned his pursuit of OBL in Tora Bora and Obama is more like Churchill in that he FINISHED THE KILL and Bush pulled back from eradicating Al Queda after watching OBL escape into Pakistan.

Hmmm? Just what did Beck say that was wrong? Are you libs telling me that these folks that want to take over all these countries in the Middle East LOVE the Jews? Are you telling me they don’t want to destroy Israel?

Looks like Beck is comparing these revoulutionaries to HITLER, not Obama. Obama is just the poor ignorant dupe that can’t see what is happening or doesn’t want to. Maybe that is because he went to that Jew hating church in Chicago.

This is a perfect example of why Beck is being dumped by FOX. Even Murdoch and Ailes realized they were playing with fire as concerns Beck. His lies and distortions of history and his ability to communicate this idiocy to millions of people is actually how fascism got off the ground in Germany. The appeasers of Hitler were conservatives like Neville Chamberlayne and rightwingers everywhere who wanted to start fascism all over the world. The left in Germany was eliminated by Hitler and ‘moderate’ countries all over the world were totally opposed to Hitler including, of course, President Roosevelt.The real supporters of Naziism were mainly large international industries like IBM, General Motors and wealthy rightwing individuals like George W. Bush’s grandfather and Jack Kennedy’s father who thought Hitler was on to a good thing. Germany then, like today, was one of the great industrious money making countries and we didn’t want to lose that market.

Beck is just taking advantage of people of limited backgrounds who have been fed anti good government and rightwing propaganda, especially since the time of Saint Reagan. It’s essentially a group of people who for the most part call themselves Christians although they practice a very negative, distorted version of it. Beck’s going to Israel is the height of arrogance and will only feed the fires of divisions between Israel and the Arab world. What Fundamentalist Christians are doing in Israel is quite cynical. It’s hard to believe that they are using the Jewish Israelis to gain their own salvation because the Second Coming of Christ will take place in Israel and the Jews will have to accept Jesus or perish along with the rest of the heathen world. They also prophesize that the Jews and Arabs will always be at war. Nice stuff that Mr. Beck promotes to mostly a small minority of rightwing Israelis ‘friends’

Oh yes, Obama is an appeaser just like good old Neville Chamberlayne. Maybe someday many of you rightwingers will get it – Obama is trying to heal the damage that has been done to us by the bad governments that we, the people, have, voted for. I’ve been trying to figure out why the right hates Obama. I think it’s because he’s authentic and totally unlike nearly every other political leader we’ve had over the years. The only other authentic President since Johnson and Kennedy was, of course, Bill Clinton, and look what they did to him.

Glackin said:
When Iran overthrew the Shah, we were his backup. We overthrew the first freely elected govt. there in 1953 to protect big oil (sound familiar?). The Mullahs filled the leadership vacuum.
In Egypt and Libya, the people see the US as supporting them, not the Hitlers they have had.
You don’t bomb people into liking you. You help them free themselves.

You libs just don’t get it. Barack Obama is not one of us, he is one of them. He may not be a full blown muslim terrorist, but his allegiance does not lie with ” real ” America and her true people, as is the case with many of you degenerate, self disenfranchised mutt libs.

Hot Air| Danish film director Lars von Trier: “I understand Hitler”
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/18/danish-film-director-lars-von-trier-i-understand-hitler/

Why is Obama an appeaser? Please tell us oh great Beck what would you have our president do in the middle east? He just ordered the killing of the worlds biggest criminal, he at least doubled our troop strength in Afganistan and is actively attacking wanted terrorist with drones. Is the middle east a mess? Damn straight it is, but its always been a mess. Let me give you righties a little history lesson. In 1947 the whole Arab world(almost) attacked Israel, and Israel kicked their asses. Then in 1956 the suez crisis occurred and Israel again kicked their asses. Then in 1967 during the six day war, Israel did a preemptive strike on the arab world(mostly Egypt) who was going to attack them ,and obliterated them taking disputed land in the process. Then in 1973 Israel was once again attacked on all sides by multiple arab nations. Israel crushed them, and took more land. I could go on and on , Lebanon, the Becca Valley ect ect. You guys think Israel is in some sort of trouble. They will destroy whoever trys anything against them. And get this, I know you don’t believe it but Obama will support them either directly or behind the scenes just like every other president has done throughout history. How is what is happening in the middle east today worse than before? Its not its actually probably better believe it or not. But of course the righties will not talk about the past if it doesn’t fit their narrative. Goofball Beck probably would have said the world is ending and to run to the hills back during the yom kipper war. Thank goodness there are more reasonable people that don’t panic and pee themselves when things get a little crazy. All Beck does is play on the wingnuts fears.

Girth Brick said:
Its a fact that Bush abandoned his pursuit of OBL in Tora Bora and Obama is more like Churchill in that he FINISHED THE KILL and Bush pulled back from eradicating Al Queda after watching OBL escape into Pakistan.

So that was the Brits who took Berlin and the Eagle’s Nest?

No the Brits hung on and managed to survived kept the shipping lanes opened and which thereby allowed the United States to build a huge military base on the British islands, which otherwise would have made in impossible to take Berlin and the Eagles nest. And pssssst The Russians took Berlin, and killed more germans than the rest of the allies put together. But we don’t like to talk about that.

ganymede said:
Oh yes, Obama is an appeaser just like good old Neville Chamberlayne. Maybe someday many of you rightwingers will get it – Obama is trying to heal the damage that has been done to us by the bad governments that we, the people, have, voted for. I’ve been trying to figure out why the right hates Obama. I think it’s because he’s authentic and totally unlike nearly every other political leader we’ve had over the years. The only other authentic President since Johnson and Kennedy was, of course, Bill Clinton, and look what they did to him.

That is hysterical. 0bama is going to save us from ourselves and our past. Apologizing for everything we’ve “done”. 0bama is the least authentic president by far. America has done more good for this planet than everyone else combined. You’ve OD’d on the kool-aid. I’m sorry but folks like you are lost. The left has done an almost irreversible job of indoctrinating a large swath of this country.

I’ve noticed the same parallels as Beck. I don’t know the full context of his point, but the comparison is fairly obvious.

brownsound said:
That is hysterical. 0bama is going to save us from ourselves and our past. Apologizing for everything we’ve “done”. 0bama is the least authentic president by far. America has done more good for this planet than everyone else combined. You’ve OD’d on the kool-aid. I’m sorry but folks like you are lost. The left has done an almost irreversible job of indoctrinating a large swath of this country.

Obama has never apologized to anyone, you fool.

insideguy said:
No the Brits hung on and managed to survived kept the shipping lanes opened and which thereby allowed the United States to build a huge military base on the British islands, which otherwise would have made in impossible to take Berlin and the Eagles nest. And pssssst The Russians took Berlin, and killed more germans than the rest of the allies put together. But we don’t like to talk about that.

Yes, I’m aware of the Soviets taking Berlin. Girth made the correlation of 0bama/OBL and Churchill/Hitler. My statement was pointing out his mistake.

ganymede said:
This is a perfect example of why Beck is being dumped by FOX. Even Murdoch and Ailes realized they were playing with fire as concerns Beck. His lies and distortions of history and his ability to communicate this idiocy to millions of people is actually how fascism got off the ground in Germany.

Glenn Beck has enriched Mr.Murdoch and Mr. Ailes, and Glenn Beck is the driving force in his resignation from his 5:00 PM time slot–a slot that he has dominated from day one! But, you claim that Glenn Beck lies. So far, everything I have checked that he has claimed has turned out to be true. What evidence, therefore, do you or any other poster have that is verifiable proving that Mr. Beck has lied. You’re no different than the Glenn Beck Review numbskull in that you make claims but you NEVER back anything up.

Girth Brick said:
Obama has never apologized to anyone, you fool.

He has IMPLIED apologies on many occasions. Can you debate without the name calling? It makes you look like the fool.

cool.

insideguy said:
cool.

Right back atcha The Brits deserve much credit for everything you mentioned.

brownsound said:
Yes, I’m aware of the Soviets taking Berlin. Girth made the correlation of 0bama/OBL and Churchill/Hitler. My statement was pointing out his mistake.

The Churchill reference was in keeping with Beck fallacious Chamberlain analogy.

Obama more like Churchill – Bush more like Chamberlain (in this one example – OBL and Al Qaeda).

brownsound said:
He has IMPLIED apologies on many occasions. Can you debate without the name calling? It makes you look like the fool.

I hate it when people repeat falsehoods – which you have admitted you did so I happily retract the word.

You knew you were dishonest – therefore you are not a fool.

I’m not sure if Glennda is up on her history…OK that’s not true, Glennda knows nothing about history beyond when she played “Castle Wolfenstein” that one time…but actually recently deposed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak was a key player in the Yom Kippur War against Israel. And of course Hosni Mubarak was also a close, dear friend of George W. Bush. Many Egyptians – much like Glenn Beck – will always harbor resentment if not outright hatred of Jews. It’s a reality to be dealt with.

Oh Glennda. It’s never as simple as simpletons like you wish it were. But I guess that’s why you “work” at Fox.

X-3 said:
Glenn Beck has enriched Mr.Murdoch and Mr. Ailes, and Glenn Beck is the driving force in his resignation from his 5:00 PM time slot–a slot that he has dominated from day one! But, you claim that Glenn Beck lies. So far, everything I have checked that he has claimed has turned out to be true. What evidence, therefore, do you or any other poster have that is verifiable proving that Mr. Beck has lied. You’re no different than the Glenn Beck Review numbskull in that you make claims but you NEVER back anything up.

You are completely delusional buddy. Glenn Beck was fired from Fox News. Or as a matter of public relations his show is canceled, but he will appear at times in the future for special events blabla. Ask yourself this one question. Why in the world would Beck take a huge paycut while losing the incredible platform at Fox News?There is no rational answer for Beck leaving Fox News on his own initiative.

BTW, Republicans and self-proclaimed “conservatives” – it’s anti-Semitic to compare whatever policy you don’t like – the individual mandate, higher taxes, etc, etc, etc, – to the Holocaust/Nazi Germany. Yes, saying that making you, a white Xtian, go to the doctor, is the moral equivalent of sending a Jew to the gas chamber, is virulently, openly, viciously anti-Semitic. So that’s why people keep calling you bigots, racists, idiots, radicals, anti-American dipsh*ts, etc.

Anytime Beck can get Obama and Hitler in the same narrative, is a happy day for him. Great Beck compare him to Chamberlain, and ill compare you to Prince Charles. Thats about equal logic.

Girth Brick said:
I hate it when people repeat falsehoods – which you have admitted you did so I happily retract the word.

You knew you were dishonest – therefore you are not a fool.

When 0bama says “we were arrogant in the past” and feigns that HE won’t be… that is an implied apology. Don’t even get started on the use of language. the professional left has hijacked language and twisted the meaning of half the lexicon.

Rgentum said:
BTW, Republicans and self-proclaimed “conservatives” – it’s anti-Semitic to compare whatever policy you don’t like – the individual mandate, higher taxes, etc, etc, etc, – to the Holocaust/Nazi Germany. Yes, saying that making you, a white Xtian, go to the doctor, is the moral equivalent of sending a Jew to the gas chamber, is virulently, openly, viciously anti-Semitic. So that’s why people keep calling you bigots, racists, idiots, radicals, anti-American dipsh*ts, etc.

Yeah, we never saw any Democrats/Liberals with Hitler and Nazi signs in regards to GWB or Scott Walker or any number of Republicans. Give me a break, both sides go way to far with the Nazi crap.

One thing that has always fascinated me about this appeaser thing with Chamberlin is that he alone gest so much blame for being an apologist for Hilter. What the hell was the rest of the world doing against Hitler? The french appeased him. The rest of europe did also. The Russians looked the other way, and got their asses attacked for doing so. Then of course there is the USA. What the hell were we doing as Hitler ran across Europe. Most of the USA didn’t want anything to do with fighting Hitler , they didn’t give a crap what was going on over there. And if they did they sure as hell weren’t that enthusiastic about getting involved. It took the Japs to attack us, then the Germans declared war on us!. Then we decided boy we really better do something. Point being there is a lot of blame to go around on who appeased Hitler.

brownsound said:
When 0bama says “we were arrogant in the past” and feigns that HE won’t be… that is an implied apology. Don’t even get started on the use of language. the professional left has hijacked language and twisted the meaning of half the lexicon.

OK – now we get to what he really said.

Of course the US is arrogant! We still are!

After all, the right thrives in it – and calls it American Exceptionalism – meaning normal rules don’t apply to us.

That means when we want to kill 500,000 in Iraq we do it – just in case their leader has a slim chance of WMD even though we lacked proof.

That is arrogance.

And you know what else was arrogant? Obama invading Pakistan on a military mission without approval.

Different level of arrogance though.

insideguy said:
One thing that has always fascinated me about this appeaser thing with Chamberlin is that he alone gest so much blame for being an apologist for Hilter. What the hell was the rest of the world doing against Hitler? The french appeased him. The rest of europe did also. The Russians looked the other way, and got their asses attacked for doing so. Then of course there is the USA. What the hell were we doing as Hitler ran across Europe. Most of the USA didn’t want anything to do with fighting Hitler , they didn’t give a crap what was going on over there. And if they did they sure as hell weren’t that enthusiastic about getting involved. It took the Japs to attack us, then the Germans declared war on us!. Then we decided boy we really better do something. Point being there is a lot of blame to go around on who appeased Hitler.

Yep, Chamberlain definitely wasn’t the only one to blame. The main point being appeasement typically only emboldens the aggressor.

Yea that world American Exceptionalism really pisses a lot of countries off. Are we a impressive country sure we are and we have done many great things. But so has a lot of nations. I think in general we are a force for good in the world. But that doesn’t give us the right to do what the hell we want. Are we exceptional because we have 50 million people without health insurance, and the other western countries don’t have any. Are we exceptional because we have one of the highest infant mortality rates in the developed world. Are we exceptional because we have by far the highest murder rate of any 1st world nation. Are we exceptional because we are falling behind every industrialized nation in math and science? This is a great country and I love it but we could learn a few things from some of these other “un exceptional” countries.

brownsound said:
Yeah, we never saw any Democrats/Liberals with Hitler and Nazi signs in regards to GWB or Scott Walker or any number of Republicans. Give me a break, both sides go way to far with the Nazi crap.

You are absolutely correct. Of course, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is that the Democrats who go nuts with the Nazi comparisons are generally ignored, shunted aside, or made to apologize. Republicans who do it are lionized.

Girth Brick said:
OK – now we get to what he really said.

Of course the US is arrogant! We still are!

After all, the right thrives in it – and calls it American Exceptionalism – meaning normal rules don’t apply to us.

That means when we want to kill 500,000 in Iraq we do it – just in case their leader has a slim chance of WMD even though we lacked proof.

That is arrogance.

And you know what else was arrogant? Obama invading Pakistan on a military mission without approval.

Different level of arrogance though.

Sorry man, we don’t have to apologize for anything. Just because 0bama said we’re arrogant, doesn’t mean we actually were. If you don’t remember, there was a willing coalition from Europe in regards to Iraq. I’m not saying it was right or a good idea, but we didn’t go unilaterally. See, I have a lot of problems with Bush as do a lot of conservatives. And GWB is not my or most conservative’s hero unlike 0bama is for the the the left. We’ve been the world’s policeman and sugar daddy since WWII. Why did the Western European nations get to spend so much on their welfare states? Because we paid for their freaking defense and they didn’t have to (much).

True point brownsound I always just get a little annoyed with the whole Chamberlain thing. He was a dope, but a lot of the leaders were dopes back then. World War 1 had made everyone reluctant, except of course for the ones who saw this and attacked their asses.

Ohh I totally agree with you on being the rest of the worlds sugar daddy to brownstone, don’t even get me started!

brownsound said:
Sorry man, we don’t have to apologize for anything. .

You don’t quit, do you?

No one is talking about apologies except you. You keep bringing the subject up for some inexplicable reason.

Not me and not Obama. I wouldn’t apologize for anything and he didn’t.

insideguy said:
Yea that world American Exceptionalism really pisses a lot of countries off. Are we a impressive country sure we are and we have done many great things. But so has a lot of nations. I think in general we are a force for good in the world. But that doesn’t give us the right to do what the hell we want. Are we exceptional because we have 50 million people without health insurance, and the other western countries don’t have any. Are we exceptional because we have one of the highest infant mortality rates in the developed world. Are we exceptional because we have by far the highest murder rate of any 1st world nation. Are we exceptional because we are falling behind every industrialized nation in math and science? This is a great country and I love it but we could learn a few things from some of these other “un exceptional” countries.

There are a lot of things to cover in this post and many of my arguments would fall along philosophical lines. Health insurance is not a god given right. My opinion (and that of the Founders) My property (my labor) should not be confiscated for distribution to someone else, where will it end? That is a form of servitude. I’m not opposed to helping the helpless. Medicaid is worthwhile, Medicare utilizing the private sector is as well. But massive social engineering and central planning are not what America is about. Math and Science.. our drop coincides directly with the creation of the Department of Education. Both of these issues go to the big/federal gov’t vs limited/local gov’t argument.

Its not a god given right. Its a moral right. We spend a trillion dollars a year on our defense budget. Veterans have national health care. It is socialized. Once again I ask the question does the right support government healthcare for our veterans? And if not would you propose they go get private health insurance? And if they do support government healthcare for our veterans why would they, when its clearly inferior to private health ins. You will not find anybody i repeat any right winger who does not support govt healthcare for our vets. This I ask them ,If its so bad why would they support it. Answer: cause they know deep down inside that govt healthcare is the way to go. And you govt being involved in our education ok interesting argument but it does not make sense since every other western country has a centralized govt run education system and are smoking us.

Regarding health care… I’m not up for writing a novel on this topic… which is what it would take to fully vet this issue. I’m content in my position and it’s well thought out and constitutionally based. I respect your opinion and believe that you have nothing but good intentions.

One thing I will say about education at the federal level. The constitution doesn’t provide the fed gov’t the power to control it. The Dept of Education was created in 1979. Our decline, relative to the rest of world, started around the same time. There’s quite of bit of information out there about this and the philosophy of local government/less bureaucracy being more effective.

Girth Brick said:
Its a fact that Bush abandoned his pursuit of OBL in Tora Bora and Obama is more like Churchill in that he FINISHED THE KILL and Bush pulled back from eradicating Al Queda after watching OBL escape into Pakistan.

No, no, no and no. Thanks for playing, though.

Are you really so stupid as to actually believe that Bush just gave up on bin Ladin? You’d have to either have an IQ around that of a houseplant or you’d have to be slinging bullshit. Are you smarter than a houseplant, Bovine?

The constitution had to be amended to prohibit slavery, and to give women the right to vote among other things. The founding fathers were great men but could not forsee the future and what it held. It is a living breathing document and is evolving over time. If it did not it would be like the Bible which would not be a good thing.

And you goofball righties who keep giving my comments thumbs down are chicken to debate. At least brownsound has the balls to stand up for what he believes in.

Great another anonymous thumbsdown from some fool who probably thinks the earth is 6000 years old.

insideguy said:
The constitution had to be amended to prohibit slavery, and to give women the right to vote among other things. The founding fathers were great men but could not forsee the future and what it held. It is a living breathing document and is evolving over time. If it did not it would be like the Bible which would not be a good thing.

My constitutional arguments are about what powers are granted to the federal gov’t. And that all others were expressly given to the states. The Founders feared an all too powerful federal government and rightly so. The leviathan has grown and grown and intruded and intruded. And it continues unabated. When government oversteps it’s bounds, its much easier corrected at more local levels. They want to raise taxes to help with debt/deficit? Please. There is not one shred of evidence that with more revenue, these clowns (on both sides) wouldn’t just find something else to spend it on. Since they refuse to moderate the profligate spending, the only answer to take the power back that they have usurped from the states and local gov’t. And let’s not get started on the promises originally made about social security. Next up: confiscating or taxing our private retirement accounts.

insideguy said:
The constitution had to be amended to prohibit slavery, and to give women the right to vote among other things. The founding fathers were great men but could not forsee the future and what it held. It is a living breathing document and is evolving over time. If it did not it would be like the Bible which would not be a good thing.

One thing about the slavery issue. Many of the Founders were opposed to it and wanted the prohibition in the constitution originally. However, some colonies would have never ratified. So they reluctantly omitted the prohibition in order to secure the creation of the union. And if they hadn’t, and a union did not come about and the colonies were left to their own devices, pockets of slavery on this continent very likely would have lasted longer than it did. The Brits were more than happy for slavery to continue in the New World. They profited mightily from it.

Also, on amending… if a healthcare law was put up as a constitutional amendment and sent to the states for ratification and it passed… I’d argue like hell during the debate before ratification, but if it passed, then so be it, I’d embrace. But the way this went down in 2010. No F’ing way.

We have the lowest personal income tax in the western world. The idea that we can reduce this deficit by simply cutting spending is a fantasy at best. What both sides are afraid of is that in order to cut the deficit you need to raise taxes and cut spending, there is no other way. U use the states rights issue the same way the south did. You can make that argument that slavery was not prohibited thereby causing it to be a states rights issue. This is foolish because it was a moral thing to do to get rid of slavery. It is also a moral responsibility for our citizens to have affordable accessible healthcare. What if say Georgia did not agree with having the right for women to vote after the constitution was amended. Would that be ok? After all it wasn’t in the original document. And some how during the clinton years prior to the bush tax cuts we balanced the budget. This was due to a cut in spending(mostly defense) and higher tax rates than we have today. As I write this our country has the lowest tax rates for the riches people in its history, since the inception of the income tax. There are bills to be paid taking care of the least among us giving care to the elderly at affordable prices. You seem to be a smart man do not fall into the tea party mentality.

And getting an amendment to the constitution in this day in age is like waiting for 10 inches of rain to fall in the Sahara desert.

insideguy said:
We have the lowest personal income tax in the western world. The idea that we can reduce this deficit by simply cutting spending is a fantasy at best. What both sides are afraid of is that in order to cut the deficit you need to raise taxes and cut spending, there is no other way. U use the states rights issue the same way the south did. You can make that argument that slavery was not prohibited thereby causing it to be a states rights issue. This is foolish because it was a moral thing to do to get rid of slavery. It is also a moral responsibility for our citizens to have affordable accessible healthcare. What if say Georgia did not agree with having the right for women to vote after the constitution was amended. Would that be ok? After all it wasn’t in the original document. And some how during the clinton years prior to the bush tax cuts we balanced the budget. This was due to a cut in spending(mostly defense) and higher tax rates than we have today. As I write this our country has the lowest tax rates for the riches people in its history, since the inception of the income tax. There are bills to be paid taking care of the least among us giving care to the elderly at affordable prices. You seem to be a smart man do not fall into the tea party mentality.

You’re missing the point about the ratifying. I’m talking about the original document and whether or not we’d even have a union created. That required every colony to agree. The amendment process doesn’t require unanimity. Georgia could protest but could not impede the passage of an amendment such as women’s suffrage. You get no argument from me on the moral issue. Don’t fall into the tired liberal falsehood that states rights means slavery rights. The States provided for the creation of the Federal government, not the other way around. States rights has a much broader meaning than slavery. Slavery is over. Let it go.

The 0bama administration, in it’s first budget, increased each department’s budget by 35% over 2008 levels. 35%!! The deficit in March 2011 alone was more than 2007 in total. That’s 2007 with 2 wars and the so-called Bush tax cuts. 0bama then proclaims “We’re freezing the budgets of all executive branch departments.” Well, isn’t that something! Raise them 35% then proclaim a freeze like you’re so very responsible. Cut every department by at least 25% tomorrow. There’s no other way. You could tax every millionaire at 90% and it wouldn’t cover 1 year’s deficit. Not even close. Then what? Raid their savings?

We’re in trouble. We can’t be subsidizing cowboy poets and turtle bridges in our current predicament. If we’re in prosperous times and there’s extra cash, fine. Not now. If I lost my job tomorrow, the Friday night wine and steak has to go. Cross country trips to visit the folks has to be put on hold. The gov’t has to do the same.

I’m tired of people comparing us to the rest of world. We are our own country, founded on our own ideas, Capitalist. Why are our taxes lower than theirs? They have a socialist ideology. We Don’t. My income, which is my labor, it’s mine. It’s my property and property rights are the basis of liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Our core beliefs. The progressive income tax has led to our government’s never ending procession of programs and expenditures. It’s an abomination and now less than half of us even pay it. That makes me a minority. A Federal Taxpayer, the minority. I’m the only minority in this country that has no special privilege. And the only one the MSM doesn’t cry for.

insideguy said:
And getting an amendment to the constitution in this day in age is like waiting for 10 inches of rain to fall in the Sahara desert.

At least in the amendment process the entire law (2000 pages) would be properly vetted and well understood. I think that might be slightly important when we’re talking about the biggest entitlement (and monetary commitment) in history.

lol @ Gleen Beck. He’s making the case of some “any” clips of Michel Obama and a Californian Teacher? Quite ridiculous.

And americans. Please, don’t refer to the “founding fathers”, that was over 200 years ago!! You should state your view but, which is fine. But your views are not valid because of history!

Carl Emmoth said:
lol @ Gleen Beck. He’s making the case of some “any” clips of Michel Obama and a Californian Teacher? Quite ridiculous.

And americans. Please, don’t refer to the “founding fathers”, that was over 200 years ago!! You should state your view but, which is fine. But your views are not valid because of history!

We’re governed by the document those guys created over 200 years ago. It’s relevant.

See the point is brownsound is national healthcare is coming down the pike weather you like it or not. It is like every other right wing argument over the past 100 years you have argued and you have lost. Change is coming and you can either get out of the way or help to make it work. Your side is the same side that fought against a womens right to vote, or gays in the military, or civil rights(I know both sides had there people that opposed that) the point being old school thinking does not work in this day in age. If you don’t want to compare us to other countries fine. But we have always borrowed things that work from other countries. What would yu like our tax rate to be what do you consider fair. You could say a flat tax sure, but aint gonna happen so we have to try and work things out within the system we have. The right is constantly stuck in some kind of time warp, and the left is always pushing forward. They proposed social security, medicare, medicaid, and other social welfare programs. Of course these need to be paid for Ive been all over the world and my wife is german. The idea that some americans have that europeans live under some horrible socialized system that is crushing their spirit amazes me. Go over there talk to them see what they think about there systems. Look at the statistics on longer life spans, more time off, generally healthier and happier lives. The biggest advantage this country has is it is able to unleash a spirt of doing something on your own, and it is more possible in this country than those others. But raising some taxes and cutting some spending isn’t going to destroy us. Im all for cutting some spending, but the idea that the republican party is going to do that is a joke. The deficit went from 5 trillion to 9 trillion in the 7years under bush, after clinton had run a surplus. I did not see one tea party guy out in the streets or on the news during this time. Bush cut taxes during a time we were fighting two wars. This is an idiotic idea and has never been done in the history of the country. Then our country goes into its worst recession since the great depression and Bush bails out carloads of people. Now the right all of a sudden get pissed when Obama gets in. He did the stimulus package,you can argue whether its been effective. A lot of the spending thats being done right now is increasing medicare and medicaid cost that would have gone up under any republican president as well. Bush created the department of homeland security. Our defense budget is more than double what it was 10 years ago. These are the things Obama has to deal with. You cannot balance this budget without raising taxes and any economist worth his salt will tell you that its just a fact.

What a complete idiot. Everything he says is so nonsensical, its hard to tell where to begin. First of all, he compares Hitler’s rise, in Germany, to events in the Middle East. Talk about a non-sequitur. Hitler seized power of a country, and started systematically killing the Jewish population. Beck compares Hitler, not to another evil world leader, but to populations of people. How do you do that? If Beck is going to make comparisons, where is the country, with an evil leader, that is systematically killing it’s Jewish population? One other minute historical fact, Israel did not exist, in Hitler’s day. So what is Beck trying to say? Is he trying to say that there are anti-Semitic views, in the Arab world? Well DUH! Did Beck just come to this epiphany? Beck clearly believes we are in the “End Times”. Well tell Beck not to worry, there is an old preacher, who has predicted the World will end this Saturday, May 21, 2011. Beck is giving the World a little longer, I believe he said about 70 years. You know when I hear people like Beck and that old Preacher, I think of one thing, the Bible warned against, “:False Prophets”. And these two, fit the mold.

brownsound said:
When 0bama says “we were arrogant in the past” and feigns that HE won’t be… that is an implied apology.

I’ve seen BS in my day but tis takes the gold medal. I will do everything in my power to keep people of this mindset (Republicans/conservatives) from ever having any real power in government again. They are a dimwitted bunch.

Please Please Please you wingnuts do some research into the history of Israel and the middle east This is nothing new. Glenn freaking Beck telling you that there is gonna be trouble in the middle east is like me telling you im going to take a crap tomorrow. I know its going to happen but that does not make me a brilliant man or a prophet.

Nice of GB to stand up for dictators who slaughter their own people.

Jon Bershad said:
While Beck never says the dirty word “appease” during his nearly episode-length example of Godwin’s Law, he used a New York Times article from 1933 as his comparison.

Beck is comparing the Left to Chamberlain, not Hitler. It is only Godwin’s Law is you compare your opponent to Hitler, not his appeasers!

Girth Brick said:
That is called the Bush Doctrine in part – thank Dumbya for lighting a fire under Hamas and the New Caliphate (Iran/Iraq).

That’s called the Obama missteps early on in the Egypt fiasco.

So they guy who got UBL is an appeaser?
Twisted logic, to say the least.

insideguy said:
The constitution had to be amended to prohibit slavery, and to give women the right to vote among other things. The founding fathers were great men but could not forsee the future and what it held.

Right. That’s why the left the amendment option available.

It is a living breathing document and is evolving over time.

No, it isn’t. It says what it says. It has been amended over time. It has not evolved. If you want to change what it says, you amend it. You don’t just pretend that it magically changed.

insideguy said:
We have the lowest personal income tax in the western world.

No, we don’t, unless you’re looking at the 0% that nearly half the country pays.

insideguy said:
And getting an amendment to the constitution in this day in age is like waiting for 10 inches of rain to fall in the Sahara desert.

It isn’t supposed to be easy. That doesn’t mean you don’t have to do it because you think times have changed enough that the document magically changed with them.

OZ said:
Beck is giving the World a little longer, I believe he said about 70 years.

Really? Why do you believe that? Was it something he said? I think not, but you should quote him.

Why do you people insist on mocking and arguing things you’ve just made up? What is your desire to battle an army of strawmen about?

Beck is dead on, arabs are better off with secular dictators like Mubarak that keep the jihadists under control than with the Muslim Brotherhood nutcakes. Even Gaddafi is better than some crazy ayatollah.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Richard Engel just messed his pants, front and back, live on Chuck Todd’s morning ” Sucking Off Obama ” program on MSNBC.

He was quite gleeful in presenting the news that one of the blind sheikh ( in federal prison for first world trade center bombing ) was out in front of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo with 200 al qaeda members protesting for the immediate release of his father from prison.

Engel went on to report this son personally worked for Osama bin Laden in the past and isn’t it cool that now even al Qaeda can protest right out on the Egyptian street.

Barack Hussein Obama ll is attempting to destroy ” real ” America and Israel continuing with his planned ” Death To America ” speech this morning, followed by his terroristic plan to further destabilize America by pledging billions of dollars of aid to these islamic ji hadists while he continues to destroy our own democracy and lives.

brownsound said:
brownsound says:
May 19, 2011 at 3:22 am  (Q

insideguy said:
insideguy says:
May 19, 2011 at 4:36 am  

thx guys! i thoroughly enjoyed both sides of the debate done without silly name calling (something i am guilty of). i obviously came down on one side, but add the utility of unions and this is going to be the 2012 presidential debate.

this is what i love about this site!

insideguy said:
Its not a god given right. Its a moral right. We spend a trillion dollars a year on our defense budget. Veterans have national health care. It is socialized. Once again I ask the question does the right support government healthcare for our veterans? And if not would you propose they go get private health insurance? And if they do support government healthcare for our veterans why would they, when its clearly inferior to private health ins. You will not find anybody i repeat any right winger who does not support govt healthcare for our vets. This I ask them ,If its so bad why would they support it. Answer: cause they know deep down inside that govt healthcare is the way to go. And you govt being involved in our education ok interesting argument but it does not make sense since every other western country has a centralized govt run education system and are smoking us.

Do all those countries ” that are smoking U.S. ) have an underbelly uneducatable sub culture growing unchecked in their ghettos? Do they even have ghettos ? Nobody on the left, or the right for that matter what to honestly face the truth regarding just what is killing the ” real ” American dream, leaving us with a quickly approaching third world status or worse…..extinction.

You and your ilk tout the wonderfulness of other countries yet you never state the fact that most, if not all of those countries restrict ( set quotas ) on children per household as well as demand a certain amout of contribution to productive society by all who are able.

The United States of America takes none of these steps in our treatment of our poor, minority, underbelly of society, but if you bleeding ass liberals want to go apples for apples across the board with what another country of our mutual choice is doing, not just the shit you like, I’m all in.

You know where to find me if anything develops……until then SIT DOWN & SHUT UP…..

Barack Must Go said:
You and your ilk tout the wonderfulness of other countries yet you never state the fact that most, if not all of those countries restrict ( set quotas ) on children per household as well as demand a certain amout of contribution to productive society by all who are able

you are going to have to give more info on countries (besides china, which isn’t a country anything like he was talking about) that put restrictions on children per household.

please prove you are not a liar.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
you are going to have to give more info on countries (besides china, which isn’t a country anything like he was talking about) that put restrictions on children per household.

please prove you are not a liar.

All other countries, as I have stated, put many restriction on those who wish to enjoy the benifits of living in said country.

I do not have to list what each and every one of them , other than the United States of America, which you libs hate so very much to prove my point. So as I stated before…please sit down & shut up until YOU are ready to prove ME wrong.

I saw this, and it was particularly disgusting. Almost to the point where I wish Obama was somewhat like Hitler, and just had Beck killed. Almost.

May 21st can’t come fast enough.
Beck will be leaving this earth.

Barack Must Go said:
All other countries, as I have stated, put many restriction on those who wish to enjoy the benifits of living in said country.

I do not have to list what each and every one of them , other than the United States of America, which you libs hate so very much to prove my point. So as I stated before…please sit down & shut up until YOU are ready to prove ME wrong.

You apparently didn’t heed my advice about taking a whole bottle of aspirin and standing in traffic at night wearing black, unfortunately. Lets try again!

Beck is right, as usual.

Barack Must Go said:
All other countries, as I have stated, put many restriction on those who wish to enjoy the benifits of living in said country.

I do not have to list what each and every one of them , other than the United States of America, which you libs hate so very much to prove my point. So as I stated before…please sit down & shut up until YOU are ready to prove ME wrong.

back this statement up.

Barack Must Go said:
You and your ilk tout the wonderfulness of other countries yet you never state the fact that most, if not all of those countries restrict ( set quotas ) on children per household as well as demand a certain amout of contribution to productive society by all who are able.

the thing with you is that you watch all these political shows and regurgitate what they say without even understanding it. you have proved that all of your statements are crap.
good day.

Barack Must Go said:
All other countries, as I have stated, put many restriction on those who wish to enjoy the benifits of living in said country.

I do not have to list what each and every one of them , other than the United States of America, which you libs hate so very much to prove my point. So as I stated before…please sit down & shut up until YOU are ready to prove ME wrong.

please read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy
and then say what european socialst-style run countries have the same policy.
if you figure out the right answer, you might get a gold star.

posterchild said:
May 21st can’t come fast enough.
Beck will be leaving this earth.

on stewart’s show the 89 year old radio host has a pretty good shot at predicting when his life on earth will end.
(he was a bit more humorous though)

*on the daily show, stewart joked…

insideguy said:
See the point is brownsound is national healthcare is coming down the pike weather you like it or not. It is like every other right wing argument over the past 100 years you have argued and you have lost.

I heartily disagree. The majority in this country are against it. I offer the 2010 election as proof. I offer the 1000′s of waivers already given out as proof.

insideguy said:
Your side is the same side that fought against a womens right to vote, or gays in the military, or civil rights(I know both sides had there people that opposed that) the point being old school thinking does not work in this day in age.

This is a fallacy. Specifically in regards to Civil Rights. The vast majority of governors, mayors and sheriffs in the south were Democrats. Al Gore’s father was vehemently opposed. Bill Clinton’s mentor was a racist of the first order. Since you’re now throwing around the “right-winger” crap… The revisionist left wingers have been trying to rewrite history for the last 100 years to suit their narrative. This is another example. It was Republican President Eisenhower who sponsored both Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act and it was LBJ lead Senate who fought tooth and nail against them. Ike finally signed a watered down Civil Rights Bill. Yes, let me repeat that, Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sponsored and signed the first Civil Rights Bill. Did you know that? LBJ co-opted the Civil Rights movement in the most cynical play in the history of presidential politics.
What was LBJ’s famous quote about the civil rights act? “I’ll have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” — Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One – Ronald Kessler’s “Inside The White House”

insideguy said:
The right is constantly stuck in some kind of time warp, and the left is always pushing forward.

Pushing, agitating, usurping the constitution. The left are professional and perpetual malcontents. Always with a victim that needs rescuing.

insideguy said:
The idea that some americans have that europeans live under some horrible socialized system that is crushing their spirit amazes me.

I never said their systems were horrible or crushing. My point is, they have a different philosophy. Fine. Vote with your feet and go there. And then you can do what they do… come here for the best specialized treatment on the planet.

insideguy said:
but the idea that the republican party is going to do that is a joke

Did you not just see me call both sides clowns?

insideguy said:
Now the right all of a sudden get pissed when Obama gets in.

Right. Like the left was so quiet and docile during the Bush administration. Please, man.

insideguy said:
Our defense budget is more than double what it was 10 years ago

Did you not see my comment in the last post about slashing EVERY department’s budget?

Bottom line, the American people’s labor is not the government’s property. Tax cuts are not an expenditure.

Again, I’m a minority… an actual Federal Taxpayer. Where is my victims group being propped up by the left?

barrack must go are you for real? i could crush you in any argument so its not worth it but european countries do not restrict how many kids you can have. where would u get this? have you ever been anywhere? i swear some of you righties have never been outside of your town. i still don’t think your for real

Barack Must Go says:
Barack Hussein Obama ll is attempting to destroy ” real ” America and Israel continuing with his planned ” Death To America ” speech this morning, followed by his terroristic plan to further destabilize America by pledging billions of dollars of aid to these islamic ji hadists while he continues to destroy our own democracy and lives.
……………………………………………..
Does it ever bother you to always be wrong? When Obama’s speech doesn’t reference any of your hate vomit, how will you spin it then? Terroristic plans!!!??? Has he not done the same for Israel? I know you live for your treasonist hate, so please keep it up, “please”…. someone will notice then, we won’t have to hurt our eyes with your blind hate!

CAINtheBULL said:
So now he’s recycling stuff. um… he’s stuff is so tired. When is he off the air?

I suppose you would like him better if he made up something to keep it fresh.

Glen has covered a lot of ground on Fox, and reiterating important points may be about all he can at this point. He has admitted himself that it’s getting boring. That does not diminish the importance of any of it. He and FOX realize that a saturation point has been reached for a daily format. He should do a weekly show so he can keep it interesting.. I’ll tell you what is boring,; having to read his detractors’ posts on this site that have nothing more substantive to say than “I hate him”, “he’s fat”, “I wish he’d go away”. That…is… boring.

For the rest of you who actually have something to say here’s some best of…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE367ij3swg
enjoy. Wayne Harropson

Nevada secures partial waiver from federal health care law

By Karoun Demirjian, The Policy Racket

Monday, May 16, 2011 | 5:08 p.m.

Nevada got a partial waiver from the health care law – a significant development that Democrats are dismissing as par for the course and Republicans are claiming as a political victory.

The Health and Human Services Department announced late Friday that Nevada had secured a statewide waiver from certain implementation requirements of the Obama administration’s health care law, because forcing them through, the department found, “may lead to the destabilization of the individual market.”

The announcement makes Nevada one of only three states to have compliance requirements under the health care bill waived.

Nevada’s Insurance Division had appealed to the feds to reduce the federal requirement that health plans serving people who buy insurance on their own must spend at least 80 percent of the money they collect on medical expenses. Under the national rule, companies that don’t spend that percentage of revenue on medical costs have to cut policyholders rebate checks starting this year.

What a joke. The two biggest pushers, Pelosi and Reid, are the recipients of the waivers. Mission accomplished… enslave the rest of nation, secure your future votes at home by obtaining emancipation for your constituents

Brownsound you can argue that the civil rights movement was opposed by a lot of democrats particularly in the south and I would agree with you. But the point being that the civil rights movement was not a right wing movement. The southern democrats were conservative and most of this guys are republican today as you can see by looking at a electoral votes map. Besides a couple northern southern states and florida the democrats have basically accepted they aren’t going to win down there. Martin Luther King was not a righties neither were any of the people involved. Did Eisenhower support civil rights? Sure he did but it took LBJ to get it done. And LBJ was right the african americans have voted democrat since then. It really hasn’t helped in the south cause the whites vote republican as much as the blacks vote democrat. Name me one progressive or innovative idea that has come from the republicans in the last 30 years? One? All they do is fight against the tide and try to stem progress. The vast vast majority of the public is against the Ryan bill that hasn’t stopped them from trying to push that idiocy through. And the idea that the vast majority of the public is against national healthcare is interesting. Just because a large portion(the people who have ins) seem to be against it and are afraid of change doesn’t mean its the right way to go. People are always fighting against change. The right has been fighting against repealing don’t ask don’t tell for 2 decades. They lost, and history will prove them fools. The left was anti-bush and to some extent expesh the far left it was ridiculous, I don’t feel like he was a bad guy, but he made one foolish mistake after another. And I don’t think history is going to judge him kindly. I could be wrong but I doubt it. It takes corgi to try and change things. Is the left always correct in their push towards this change? No but at least they try and do something unlike the right who’s only solution is to de regulate everything and lower taxes. Those are their two ideas.

And this is not directed at you brownsound but I wish you righties would wake up and smell the coffee when it comes to beck. If Obama had supported Mubarak in egypt in during that revolution he would have been all upset and called for impeachment. He did not and beck is upset. All he does is look at something that has happened find a way to criticize Obama or the left on it then move on to something else that has happened in the world to blame the left. The right were calling for action in Libya claiming Obama wasn’t doing enough. Then when action is taken they say its not the right way, or it wont work or its to late. They said the same thing about Serbia and Bosnia during the 90s when clinton was in office. News Flash that worked. And Kadaffi is not going to be there much longer bank on it. We will deal with who comes after. Beck is taking advantage of your hopes and fears the same way a evangelical preacher takes advantage of an old dying person.

insideguy said:
Just because a large portion(the people who have ins) seem to be against it and are afraid of change doesn’t mean its the right way to go

So you’re a dyed-in-wool believer that some elitist bureaucrat knows what’s better for us than we do. That sums up the left. Might as well institute a politburo right now, huh?

I’d like to know who these angels are that are so benevolent and wise that can perfectly plan and control our lives for us. Every single person on this planet is flawed. Not one of them, or a panel of “experts”, has any business telling anyone else in this country what’s “right” for them. Sorry man, like I said before, 100 years of progressivism indoctrination has permanently mindfu**ed you guys. I think we’re done here. Have a good day.

I could easily say the same thing about your right wing selfish mentality Brownsound, keep living in the past the rest of us will continue to move forward.

Beck is a nutcase, hasn’t he gone yet? Why are we still hearing about him in the real news media? He belongs in the comic strip.

Liberal Tormentor said:
And ps, as usual, you libs can’t debate him on the substance of what he says.

Actually we can, have and did. Liberals learned all this in the 3rd grade. You’re just learning selective passages through Fox propaganda now. In other words, the Republicans are more like the facists known as Nazi’s. They’re using the Goebbels/Hitler playbook as understood by Karl Rove (and supported by Grandpa Bush).

How do you know you’re brainwashed – when you’re brainwashed. Baaaaa! Republican Sheep. Let go of your fear and hate and see the path the GOP has taken you down. It’s not a pretty one. The damage to America over the past 30 years has come at the hands of the hate and fear mongering Republicans aka Republicorp. Jerry Falwell, Ronald Reagan the likes of the Koch Brothers – Religulous (B. Maher) + fear = stupidity. Republicans.

The Lantern of Truth said:
King Obama is absolutely the Neville Chamberlain of Muslim appeasement . And certainly the Joe Kennedy of it .

Yet he gets Public Enemy #1 when Bush let him walk away. Right.

Davo said:
Dunno if Hussein is the Neville Chamberlain player today, or is playing the role of Hitler himself. He definitely sends messages to Muslim terrorists in not-so-subtle ways that he is a “friendly,” just as his fellow socialist Hitler did.

Glenn Beck is a great American. He passionately loves this nation and is relentless in his pursuit of America’s salvation from the assaults from anti-American Democrats, and self-serving Republicans. Because he is sincere in his patriotism and humble in his service to God, Beck is and will always be targeted in every way imaginable by America’s enemies…………Democrats/Communists everywhere.

Hitler was not in any manner a socialist. Just because the name appeared in the party name does not mean he or his minions were truly socialists. Like Republicans he believed in the merging of the will of the State and Corporations. The Gang of Five are also Nazis if you take it to its logical end. Then logic is not something the right wing has ever been able to use. They don’t even believe in science, evolution, etc.

Davo said:
Dunno if Hussein is the Neville Chamberlain player today, or is playing the role of Hitler himself. He definitely sends messages to Muslim terrorists in not-so-subtle ways that he is a “friendly,” just as his fellow socialist Hitler did. Glenn Beck is a great American. He passionately loves this nation and is relentless in his pursuit of America’s salvation from the assaults from anti-American Democrats, and self-serving Republicans. Because he is sincere in his patriotism and humble in his service to God, Beck is and will always be targeted in every way imaginable by America’s enemies…………Democrats/Communists everywhere.

Ha. Ha. Ha. (sarcasm). Beck has a place in Hell with Jerry Falwell. He is a con man of no substance or intellect, proof that republicans are unevolved creatures whom use the very least of their brain for mental and intellectual persuit. Then again – he’s using just a little bit more to con the lazy right wing sheep into their “terror bunkers” and hawk “end of days” scenarios of “gold and seeds”. He is Rush Limbaugh. He is Sean Hannity. He is the Republican talking head of Religious-nutz that Jesus would have nothing to do with. He represents the weakest minds of our nation – and those whom follow him in support would just as easily follow Jim Jones or David Koresh or any other flake hawking catching the next comet that comes by. You are exhibit A of such sad people – and you’re miserly loves company. It’s easier to follow moronicly, than question and learn. Jesus Camp indoctrinated Republicorp stooges.

brownsound said:
Does the news that Iran is building missile bases in Venezuela concern you at all? Would you like to see little Iran Jr’s popping up in Egypt, Yemen, Turkey, Syria, Tunisia?

Boo!

And Meshuggunah Beck was in even finer form on the radio this morning. First, he and the brain trust–well-read foreign policy expert, Pat Gray, and their pet poodle, Stu Burgiere–were wondering how the President could side with the Egyptian protesters in January, but not with the Iranian street last year. No mention, of course, about the chasmic distinction between the Egyptian military, which we created and work with hand in hand, and the Iranian armed forces, over which we have absolutely no, zero, nada influence. In other words, the difference between the Egyptian circumstances and the Iranian is lots and lots of dead bodies.

And as if the rank stupdiity and know-nothingness weren’t enough, Meshuggunah then proceeded to advise the Israelis to relocate their capital from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. One gets the impression that the Isrealis are going to figure out fairly soon that Meshug’s concern for them goes only as deep as end-times prophecy allows. Luckily, American jews sussed that out about their evangelical allies long ago. An kind smile and a wide berth, that’s the way to handle the snake-handlers, alright.

Raygun said:
YAWN. We’re Nazis, terrorists, evil, satanic, america hating, yada yada yada. Does Beck do ANYTHING new or original? Guys like this were around when TV wasn’t invented. Even during the times of the cavemen some fat hacks clubbed people on the head and went “YOU ALL BAD. ME ALL GOOD”.

The Religulous Nuzis have substituted “religious dogma” for education. The brainwashing starts in bible school and Jesus Camp (go online and witness the brainwashing of the little minds “Jesus Camp” should scare every American and freedom loving people in the world – Not Jesus Approved!!!). Jerry Falwell and Ted Haggert (Swaggert, Baker, and other TV Evangelical Conmen) have organized a generation of morons – whom are batised into believing God is American and Republican. They would be the first to crucify Jesus based on their actions. They live in the dark and accept their blind heritage as gospel, without question. Sound familiar? Yep, 1930s Germans.

The Dweller Ysul said:
A kind smile and a wide berth, that’s the way to handle the snake-handlers, alright.

Whoops, butchered the punchline.

brownsound said:
I wouldn’t say that 0bama weakness is being touted as a reason for it. What’s being said is that the “Arab Spring” isn’t some benevolent democracy movement that idealistic students will control. The warning is that the Islamists are primed to hijack the “spring” and turn the entire region into a hotbed of religious zealotry. The 0bamabots in gov’t and media refuse to recognize what’s actually happening

The Republican’ts only want change when they can control it and put their dictators in power (Shaw of Iran, Saddam Huessien, Marcos, etc.). The Republicans are why America is hated – not our freedom(s).
War to protect the “pipelines in Iraq” – not get Bin Laden, Trillions of dollars to BP, Exxon, Koch Bros., Haliburton and the use of our military might to protect “their” financial interests. Ask Rupert Murdoch.

JazzyJim said:
Yet he gets Public Enemy #1 when Bush let him walk away. Right.

You yahoos can stop defending obama. He just gave away Israel to the Palestinians.
*****In a statement released late Thursday in Jerusalem, Netanyahu called the 1967 lines “indefensible,” saying such a withdrawal would jeopardize Israel’s security and leave major West Bank settlements outside Israeli borders, though Obama left room for adjustments reached through negotiations.

At the same time, it was not immediately clear whether Obama’s statement on the 1967 borders as the basis for negotiations – SOMETHING THE PALESTIANS HAVE LONG SOUGHT – would be sufficient to persuade the Palestinians to drop their push for U.N. recognition….****
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/19/obama-urges-israel-to-go-back-to-1967-borders/

Yeah, I would call him an appeaser. Just like the Nazi’s got prior to the whole world waking up that appeasing monsters just doesn’t work!

Isreal, our any ally in the ME, isn’t too happy with the fool in the WH. I guess they are just blowing smoke, too?

JazzyJim said:
Actually we can, have and did. Liberals learned all this in the 3rd grade. You’re just learning selective passages through Fox propaganda now. In other words, the Republicans are more like the facists known as Nazi’s. They’re using the Goebbels/Hitler playbook as understood by Karl Rove (and supported by Grandpa Bush).

How do you know you’re brainwashed – when you’re brainwashed. Baaaaa! Republican Sheep. Let go of your fear and hate and see the path the GOP has taken you down. It’s not a pretty one. The damage to America over the past 30 years has come at the hands of the hate and fear mongering Republicans aka Republicorp. Jerry Falwell, Ronald Reagan the likes of the Koch Brothers – Religulous (B. Maher) + fear = stupidity. Republicans.

Who’s brainwashed now?

Carl Emmoth said:
And americans. Please, don’t refer to the “founding fathers”, that was over 200 years ago!! You should state your view but, which is fine. But your views are not valid because of history!

Sad, Just sad that such an ignorant statement can be made.

http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=616067

*****NY Times in full anti-Bibi fury
as he heads to D.C.
American Thinker, by Leo Rennert
Posted By:Patriot and a Lady2, 5/19/2011 4:24:09 PM

The New York Times, in its May 19 edition, runs a lengthy article previewing President Obama’s Middle East policy speech and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s arrival in Washington for discussions with the president and an address to a joint session of Congress. The article, by Helene Cooper and Ethan Bronner, the Jerusalem bureau of the Times, gets the top spot on the front page (“Focus on Obama as tensions soar across Mideast — A speech on the region — No Breakthrough Seen with Netanyahu set to see President”)

Comments:
No surprise here from the NYT, which has always sought to undermine the U.S. and Israel.*****

“Glenn Beck Compares Obama And The Left To 1930s Nazi Appeasers”

There is no need to debate this point as everyone knows this to be self evident.

Well, well, well. What do you all have to say now about Glenn appeasement comparison?

0bama has not reversed decades of US policy about the borders of Israel and the proposed Palestinian state. Giving away territory… if it sounds exactly like the appeasement of Hitler, that’s because it is exactly like it.

Wow. Un-freaking believable

And a slap in the face to Netanyahu the day before he arrives. Is there any doubt now about 0bama’s Israel hatred?

brownsound said:
Well, well, well. What do you all have to say now about Glenn appeasement comparison?

0bama has not reversed decades of US policy about the borders of Israel and the proposed Palestinian state. Giving away territory… if it sounds exactly like the appeasement of Hitler, that’s because it is exactly like it.

Wow. Un-freaking believable

And a slap in the face to Netanyahu the day before he arrives. Is there any doubt now about 0bama’s Israel hatred?

should say 0bama has NOW reversed decades of policy.

wait obama’s a nazi appeaser now? i thought he was just a racist nazi?

Nationman said:
wait obama’s a nazi appeaser now? i thought he was just a racist nazi?

Well yes, since you mentioned it, he is a racist. But the point of the article (you might want to read it before commenting) is that he’s appeasing the Islamists.

Check your ratings Glenn, everyone knows you’re nuts, so leave.

brownsound said:
Well yes, since you mentioned it, he is a racist. But the point of the article (you might want to read it before commenting) is that he’s appeasing the Islamists.

oh I did read it, I was commenting on the ridiculous metaphors that beck uses to attack his opponents. First it was the progressives are nazis, now it’s they’re nazi appeasers. I wonder who gets to be mussolini.

That territory has been occupied by Israel since 1967 its the only way to solve this you righties are amazing here is another appeaser for you

Bush still hoping for two-state solution
Samar Fatany | Arab News

WASHINGTON: President George W. Bush reaffirmed his commitment for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian issue and called on Saudi Arabia and other Middle East nations to work for a final resolution to the long-standing problem.

He made the remarks on Thursday at a White House reception for a group of more than 40 women from the Middle East and North Africa visiting the United States.

Bush told the delegation that he has moved Israel closer to accepting a two-state solution during his time in office.

“I believe there needs to be a Palestinian state, and I stand by it,” Bush said.

“More than six years ago, I became the first American president to call for the creation of a Palestinian state.”

Bush said he sympathized with the plight of the Palestinian people.

“I said that Palestinians should not have to live in poverty and occupation and I laid out a new vision for the future — two democratic states, Israel and Palestine — living side by side in peace and security.”

He praised Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah as both a great friend and ally and hoped that other nations would unite with America to seek an equitable solution.

“I have worked hard to change the terrible condition of Palestinians, and I ask for the support of Saudi Arabia and other Arab states to achieve this,” Bush said.

Bush dismissed notions of Islamophobia behind America’s current stance in the Middle East and Iraq and spoke of his respect for Islam and Muslims.

“Muslims and Christians pray to the same God,” Bush said, vehemently denying reports that portray him as a person against Islam and Muslims.

Bush portrayed himself as a friend and an ally of Arab governments who support peace.

At the end of the meeting, he told the delegation he would be meeting with the mothers of American soldiers killed in Iraq, saying he has a duty to console them and “stand by their side.”

The delegation, consisting of women from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Yemen, Bahrain, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco and Qatar, is part of an exchange program to promote economic and educational reform in their home countries.

Go to Israel, go to the occupied territories I have. It aint a pretty picture

Oh and pablo find me a modern western country with a lower personal income tax that the united states. Go ahead find it don’t just make stupid comments and not back them up.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PcPn-X18ZAg/SwIZhDWtXyI/AAAAAAAABF4/dkhryrAGBfg/s1600/bannersaudi.gif

tiredoftherunaround says:

May 19, 2011 at 3:36 pm (Quote)

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JazzyJim said:
Yet he gets Public Enemy #1 when Bush let him walk away. Right.

You yahoos can stop defending obama. He just gave away Israel to the Palestinians.
*****In a statement released late Thursday in Jerusalem, Netanyahu called the 1967 lines “indefensible,” saying such a withdrawal would jeopardize Israel’s security and leave major West Bank settlements outside Israeli borders, though Obama left room for adjustments reached through negotiations.

At the same time, it was not immediately clear whether Obama’s statement on the 1967 borders as the basis for negotiations – SOMETHING THE PALESTIANS HAVE LONG SOUGHT – would be sufficient to persuade the Palestinians to drop their push for U.N. recognition….****
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/19/obama-urges-israel-to-go-back-to-1967-borders/

Yeah, I would call him an appeaser. Just like the Nazi’s got prior to the whole world waking up that appeasing monsters just doesn’t work!

Isreal, our any ally in the ME, isn’t too happy with the fool in the WH. I guess they are just blowing smoke, too?
AMEN…….
But fear not, good or bad…We know the whole ending…thing… be at peace

How did he give away Israel you end of times nutjob. You are a fool. He made a proposal no one as given away anything. He cant give away Israel he’s the president of the united states. You guys are insane.

insideguy said:
Oh and pablo find me a modern western country with a lower personal income tax that the united states. Go ahead find it don’t just make stupid comments and not back them up.

Check the link I gave you, genius. Reading is fundamental.

Thank you for your stupid comment and failure to back it up with any facts.

Nationman said:
oh I did read it, I was commenting on the ridiculous metaphors that beck uses to attack his opponents. First it was the progressives are nazis, now it’s they’re nazi appeasers. I wonder who gets to be mussolini.

Islamist appeaser genius. A little reading comprehension should precede your outrage.

insideguy said:
Oh and pablo find me a modern western country with a lower personal income tax that the united states. Go ahead find it don’t just make stupid comments and not back them up.

Here we go again with the “find me a modern western country with a lower personal income tax” crap. Whether this statement is factual or not matters not… other country’s tax rate is their business. It has absolutely no bearing on what’s going on in this country. It’s such a ridiculous argument. Who give a flying f*ck what goes on in other countries? Are they governed by our constitution and our ideology? Are you one of these guys that also thinks we should consider laws of other countries in US courtrooms?

brownsound i use to like you but hey why don’t we just get rid of the income tax then. Wow we don’t need any revenue to pay for anything screw it. And I give a flying f#ck what goes on in other countries you idiot. Just like I give a crap what goes on in Israel and the middle east. You fools know how many of your tax dollars go over to support Israel? Do you give a flying F#ck about that? Tell me einstein what should your tax rate be? You don’t know lets just repeal the damn thing, let the states take care of everything. Your a typical moronic American who things the world revolves around us. If you saw your neighbor cutting the lawn in a better way and twice as fast would you look over and say hmmmm maybe I should do that naaaaa you would just go on doing the stupid thing you’ve always done. You belong in 1776 let me live in the 21st century.

I don’t see the link Pablo so send it to me again. Then Ill blow your Stupidity out of the water.

Switzerland is about all there is and don’t compare a country with 5 million people who hord all the worlds money they don’t even count.

A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: Almost $114 Billion

By Shirl McArthur

TABLE 1: Direct U.S. Aid to Israel (millions of dollars)

Year
Total
Military
Grant

Economic
Grant
Immigrant
ASHA
All Other
1949-1996
68,030.9
29,014.9
23,122.4
868.9
121.4
14,903.3
1997
3,132.1
1,800.0
1,200.0
80.0
2.1
50.0
1998
3,080.0
1,800.0
1,200.0
80.0
?
?
1999
3,010.0
1,860.0
1,080.0
70.0
?
?
2000
4,131.85
3,120.0
949.1
60.0
2.75
?
2001
2,876.05
1,975.6
838.2
60.0
2.25
?
2002
2,850.65
2,040.0
720.0
60.0
2.65
28.0
2003
3,745.15
3,086.4
596.1
59.6
3.05
?
2004
2,687.25
2,147.3
477.2
49.7
3.15
9.9
2005
2,612.15
2,202.2
357.0
50.0
2.95
?
2006
2,534.53
2,257.0
237.0
40.0
?
.53
2007
2,500.24
2,340.0
120.0
40.0
?
.24
2008
2,423.8
2,380.6
0.0
39.7
3.0
.5
Total
103,614.67
56,024.0
30,897.0
1,557.9
143.3
14,992.47

Ahhh but thats good money spent and im sure its much more than that. As opposed to food stamps or health care for our citizens who needs that

insideguy said:
brownsound i use to like you but hey why don’t we just get rid of the income tax then. Wow we don’t need any revenue to pay for anything screw it. And I give a flying f#ck what goes on in other countries you idiot. Just like I give a crap what goes on in Israel and the middle east. You fools know how many of your tax dollars go over to support Israel? Do you give a flying F#ck about that? Tell me einstein what should your tax rate be? You don’t know lets just repeal the damn thing, let the states take care of everything. Your a typical moronic American who things the world revolves around us. If you saw your neighbor cutting the lawn in a better way and twice as fast would you look over and say hmmmm maybe I should do that naaaaa you would just go on doing the stupid thing you’ve always done. You belong in 1776 let me live in the 21st century.

You are an arsonist in a field of straw men.

insideguy said:
brownsound i use to like you but hey why don’t we just get rid of the income tax then. Wow we don’t need any revenue to pay for anything screw it. And I give a flying f#ck what goes on in other countries you idiot. Just like I give a crap what goes on in Israel and the middle east. You fools know how many of your tax dollars go over to support Israel? Do you give a flying F#ck about that? Tell me einstein what should your tax rate be? You don’t know lets just repeal the damn thing, let the states take care of everything. Your a typical moronic American who things the world revolves around us. If you saw your neighbor cutting the lawn in a better way and twice as fast would you look over and say hmmmm maybe I should do that naaaaa you would just go on doing the stupid thing you’ve always done. You belong in 1776 let me live in the 21st century.

brownsound said:
Who give a flying f*ck what goes on in other countries?

You take one sentence out all the others and express your selective outrage. You refused to address anything else in my post. Why should our apples be compared to anyone else’s oranges?

No brownstone you refuse to answer anything else at this point Im writing you off as another new earthier who wants to teach out kids straight out of the bible, and think that dinosaurs walked with cavemen. You don’t think we have anything to learn from other countries. You simplify everything to fit YOUR worldview, you don’t appreciate how complicated things are and criticize our president for things that other presidents have done. I don’t even mind that so much but just like every other righty you conveniently forget what has happened in the past. You have no answers all you do is want to go back to 1783 and have everyone live like a farmer. Your views are primitive and immature in a complicated world. Ill answer your idiotic question but you already know the answer. our laws are fine. However believe it or not smart guy we are constantly changing our laws. What was illegal yesterday is legal today and vice versa. And thank goodness, course if we just go by the 10 commandments like you righties would like then we could get away with a whole bunch of stuff. You think the founding fathers just came up with the constitution out of thin air? No they looked at what worked and didn’t work around the world and use it as a model for how this country should be run. Yea can you believe it they looked at other countries and saw what they were doing, wow amazing.

and that aid to israel only goes up to 2008. See you guys don’t mind shelling over money to a place like Israel who is a giant welfare state of the USA. Boy no wonder its so nice over there. But thats good welfare, just like the defense industry, the oil subsidize, the farm subsidizes, huge bailouts of multi billon dollar corporations. But don’t give the poor people welfare and make them pay income tax cause im made i have to pay mine.

My whole point, which went right over your head, is that YOUR repeated statement about “lowest personal income tax in modern western blah blah blah” isn’t in itself even a valid argument. Their laws, their situations, their politics are different from ours. So you can’t use that as some final validation of your point about our taxation.

I’m sorry that this minor critique of your assertion sets you off on your ideologies well-worn anti conservative rants about 1783, and religion(?), “the complicated world” and such. I never mentioned anything about abolishing our tax code. You constructed a field of straw men from one criticism. Geez man, your hostility towards those that don’t have your same view is off the charts.

insideguy said:
But don’t give the poor people welfare and make them pay income tax cause im made i have to pay mine.

I clearly stated in our previous dialogue how I place a value on some of the programs we have in place that help the poor. My comments about paying my taxes… they were ironic comments. I guess you can’t see that.

No browsound you set up the the haystack that needed to be blown over. You want certain things go look up what the personal income tax is in other countries. Im not going to even go into other taxes these people pay that we don’t it will blow your mind. I missed you point about helping the poor. How is that by not having businesses pay for their health care so when they get sick they become even poorer? God forbid anyone in your family gets sick and doesn’t have health care. Its the biggest reason for personal bankruptcy in this country. No one goes bankrupt in germany from getting sick no one. If you think thats a cool way to run this country then lets keep things the way they are. Because after all as you stated earlier health care isn’t a god given right. I don’t know you you are a new earthier or not but you sound like one. So don’t worry about anything cause the rapture is coming tomorrow according to some of your like minded people.

another liberal pre-fabricated emotional rant.

another conservative wingnut with no answers

insideguy said:
another conservative wingnut with no answers

another bomb throwing name caller with no common sense

Here’s the difference:

brownsound said:
another liberal pre-fabricated emotional rant.

I attacked your words

insideguy said:
another conservative wingnut with no answers

You attacked me.

brownsound said:
another bomb throwing name caller with no common sense

Which invited me to attack you back

ok brownsound you say potato I say potatoe. Just get back to me when a conservative gets into the whitehouse I expect you to be just as critical of him as you are on Obama. Curious who do you support? As i have stated earlier you don’t seem like a bad guy, but as you can see by your conservative brethren on this board their comments are foolish and uneducated.

Be fair. There are an equal number of numbskulls on this site from both sides. We know these people exist on both sides. Why only call out one side? Now, I will absolutely descend into the mudslinging when I’m on the receiving end of it. Some people only know one way to communicate so I feel the need to “communicate” with them.

I personally would like to see a true conservative in the race like Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan. I think Christie is much less a true conservative than a lot of people believe. Of the current crop, I like what I hear from Herman Cain. I think he’s announcing tomorrow. Beyond that, I believe that 0bama is damaging this country and would I support Elmer Fudd against him. But Elmer would be branded a gun loving lunatic and I’d hate to see him take the abuse. Note that I said I BELIEVE 0bama is damaging the country. It’s an opinion, no need to start a flame war over it.

Well that is an answer and i except it. But the fact that you would support a complete moron like Elmer Fudd concerns me. As bad as you think Obama is and I accept the fact you think he’s bad,it goes to the root of what you think. During George Bushs admin I would never say that I would vote for Daffy Duck instead of him never. I think George was a naive idiot but I would not just support any moron that ran against him and voted for him. This is scary and dangerous. To pull the lever and support any moron goes to a mentality that i can neither support or relate to. I guess it all stems back to how I think. I don’t think george Bush was a bad evil guy. I think he was a fool. You guys think that Obama is some kind of evil genius or something and would rather have a naive dummy in the white house.

Wow dude. The Elmer Fudd joke was just that, a joke… meant to underscore my opposition to what I consider a dangerous agenda. I will support the republican nominee against 0bama’s ideology. You continue to respond to me with the “you guys” and “wingnuts” crap. If you can’t converse without the sweeping generalizations and lumping me into a group that you have preconceived opinions about, I’ll quit wasting my time responding to you and go about my other commenting.

You said it not me brownsound, and i do think that a vast majority or the right wing would vote for Elmer Fudd over Obama. They have not shown me otherwise.

The Left is either the Nazis or the appeasers. I’m not sure which. Depends on the day.