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Joe Klein On CNN Targets Fox News And MSNBC

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Time columnist Joe Klein appeared on CNN‘s Reliable Sources and pulled no punches attacking cable news channels and their personalities. Predictably Klein continued his assault on what he perceives to be Glenn Beck‘s craziness, but surprisingly also went after MSNBC‘s Ed Schultz.

Klein thinks much extremism is encouraged by Rush Limbaugh and Beck claiming “Glenn Beck traffics in the most crazy and ridiculous conspiracy theories . . . when you have a respected figure promoting views like that . . . it makes things a little more heated.” Unexpectedly, Klein doesn’t have a problem with Fox News host Sean Hannity saying “you know what you’re going to get, he’s a right-wing guy, but he isn’t crazy.” Although overall he’s still not a fan of Fox as Klein concludes “I’ve used that very word – ‘crap’ – to describe what appears on Fox News.”

Yet in case you think Klein is just a liberal with the usual complaint about Fox News, Klein proves his fairness by also taking on MSNBC. After a recent appearance on The Ed Show where he tried to explain the complexities about the war in Afghanistan, Klein reveals about host Schultz, “the guy writes down on a piece of paper ‘get out now’ and holds it up in front of the screen – that’s so stupid and it’s so unworthy and . . . it’s one of the reasons why people hold us in lower regard than they do lawyers”

Only Fareed Zakaria‘s CNN show and the BBC received praise from Klein for showcasing intellectual and sophisticated television journalism.

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  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    Because MSNBC and Faux are talking point dispensaries masquerading as news organizations, and their willfully ignorant minions gladly take in all that they spew.

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    BTW, Fareed Zakaria’s show is probably the most enlightening news program on a weekly basis, in that it generally doesn’t just cover what every single other news program is covering and since it’s Zakaria it is thoughtful and honest discussion.

  • mcf1757

    Gay intern credited with saving Giffords’ life

    http://mylife-22.blogspot.com/2011/01/gay-intern-credited-with-saving.html

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    “Klein thinks much extremism is encouraged by Rush Limbaugh and Beck claiming “Glenn Beck traffics in the most crazy and ridiculous conspiracy theories . . . when you have a respected figure promoting views like that . . . it makes things a little more heated.””

    Right Wing talk and Fox News has led us to the current state of fairs. MSNBC is a small player compared to the HATE MACHINE of right wing talk radio and right wing cable news.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    Beck pointedd out once that Klein was a little guy about
    5 foot tall with a severe case of LMS. Never tell a short guy he is short.
    They will never forgive you!
    Problem is he is a little guy with a big mouth. Irrelevant!!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    If Rush and Beck are constantly inciting violence, why is it that none of you libs can provide any proof?

  • NOBAMA 2012

    Joe WHO?

    Appearing on the Communist News Network…a nobody appearing on a Lousy-Ratings-Cable-Network…who the heck cares what this Liberal Lewzer has to say…

  • NOBAMA 2012

    “We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,” B. Hussein Obama

    “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” B. Hussein Obama

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    This is very well said:

    The Media & The Shooter

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/01/09/the-media-the-shooter/

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    mcf1757 said:
    Gay intern credited with saving Giffords’ life

    http://mylife-22.blogspot.com/2011/01/gay-intern-credited-with-saving.html

    But the bible says gays are immoral! And so is wearing fabric made of 2 different fibers!

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996 said:
    “Klein thinks much extremism is encouraged by Rush Limbaugh and Beck claiming “Glenn Beck traffics in the most crazy and ridiculous conspiracy theories . . . when you have a respected figure promoting views like that . . . it makes things a little more heated.””

    Right Wing talk and Fox News has led us to the current state of fairs. MSNBC is a small player compared to the HATE MACHINE of right wing talk radio and right wing cable news.

    That’s the difference. MSNBC isn’t important because nobody watches it, not because what they say isn’t crap. Nobody really rails against WND either, for the same reason.

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    NOBAMA 2012 said:
    “We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,” B. Hussein Obama

    “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” B. Hussein Obama

    The gratuitous use of Hussein so transparently exposes you for what you really are.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Puby, We’re all still waiting for you libs to post this violence inciting rhetoric from Beck, Limbaugh, or FOX. If it’s so rampid, why are you guys having such a hard time finding it?

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996 said:
    “Klein thinks much extremism is encouraged by Rush Limbaugh and Beck claiming “Glenn Beck traffics in the most crazy and ridiculous conspiracy theories . . . when you have a respected figure promoting views like that . . . it makes things a little more heated.”” Right Wing talk and Fox News has led us to the current state of fairs. MSNBC is a small player compared to the HATE MACHINE of right wing talk radio and right wing cable news.

    NUTS like you that hide behind phony names and spew hate are the problem. When Lincoln, JFK, RFK, MLK and Harvey Milk were killed Palin, Beck and Limbaugh were not around. Why were they shot?
    This has been going on since Ceasar.
    The ONLY people that are responsible are the assasins. Palin, Beck, Limbaugh and Fox have done NOTHING to apologize for.
    I will continue to TARGET people like you and all your left-wing friends. People have always been targeted for political defeat at the ballot box. NOT ONE of the people the left trys to blame for these shooting has ever advocated shooting anyone.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    rachel sklar was also on with howie kurtz and made a lot of sense when she said(paraphrasing) that sara palin shouldn’t be held responsible for this tragedy but should act more responsibly when making these kind of analogies.

    and i think that goes for everyone. if you say something like she did and give it the old wink and nod when saying it, it’s not your fault for someone doing some crazy shit, but you have to expect people to make the connection. don’t leave these strings hanging down and you won’t have people grabbing on to them…unless you want people to be talking about you.

    i agree with joe klein about ed shultz. all his show is is taking the simplest assumptions of his point of view against the right and throw red meat to his fans.

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    If Rush and Beck are constantly inciting violence, why is it that none of you libs can provide any proof?

    If a tree falls, but you’ve already decided beforehand that the tree didn’t fall, does the tree make a sound?

  • libra blue

    “Yet in case you think Klein is just a liberal with the usual complaint about Fox News, Klein proves his fairness by also taking on MSNBC”

    Of course Klein has always been in CNN’s pocket so I wouldn’t give much weight to what he says.

    “Only Fareed Zakaria’s CNN show and the BBC received praise from Klein for showcasing intellectual and sophisticated television journalism.”

    Except for the fact that Zakaria is an apologist for Muslim terrorists.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    This morning on “This Week” that left-wing nut, Donna Brazile, said the “we should not LET” these people use certain words. What? LET? Who does she think she is? Nobody is going to NOT LET me say what I want to describe socialist left-wing nuts like her. That is the kind of talk that makes people angry enough to take up arms to stop people like her from violating the Constitution.

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    gordonbloyershow said:
    NUTS like you that hide behind phony names and spew hate are the problem.

    I think you’re literally the only commenter not “hiding” behind a phony name. Perhaps a Presidential Courage Award is in order? I’d imagine that’d be a pretty big boost to your already budding internet radio superstardom.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Puby says:

    If a tree falls, but you’ve already decided beforehand that the tree didn’t fall, does the tree make a sound?

    So in other words, you are admitting you have absolutely no proof. Got it, thanks!

  • libra blue

    Correction: Zakaria is a “protector” of Muslim terrorists.

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    gordonbloyershow said:
    This morning on “This Week” that left-wing nut, Donna Brazile, said the “we should not LET” these people use certain words. What? LET? Who does she think she is? Nobody is going to NOT LET me say what I want to describe socialist left-wing nuts like her. That is the kind of talk that makes people angry enough to take up arms to stop people like her from violating the Constitution.

    In the world of Gordon Bloyers, words have 1 and only 1 meaning, irrespective of context.

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Puby says:

    If a tree falls, but you’ve already decided beforehand that the tree didn’t fall, does the tree make a sound?

    So in other words, you are admitting you have absolutely no proof. Got it, thanks!

    I’m admitting that regardless of what I posted, your answer would have been the exact same as it just was. Cognitive dissonance personified.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Try me puby! You got nothin and you know it.

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    libra blue said:
    Correction: Zakaria is a “protector” of Muslim terrorists.

    I see you are now hiding your Anderson Cooper Hate Blog from the public. Probably a wise decision, since in the past it opened you up to all kinds of ridicule and scorn.

    https://www.blogger.com/blogin.g?blogspotURL=http%3A%2F%2Fandersoncooper360afterhours.blogspot.com%2F

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Why in the age of Google, are you libs having such a hard time finding all of this violent rhetoric from FOX, Limbaugh, and Beck?

  • JoeRyMI

    This is very predictable, and very pedestrian. He is attacking people that apparently weren’t even on this shooter’s radar. Unless, of course, Glenn Beck wrote one of this kid’s favorite books: The Communist Manifesto.

    Blaming political pundits is a predictable meme. Making political attacks disguised as moral indignation while this tragedy is going on is sick.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Remember, Rham says you should never let a tragedy go to waster. The Dem’s are taking that advice to heart:

    Democrats plotted to blame the tea party patriots for yesterday’s slaugher in Arizona.
    A democratic operative admitted this to The Politico.
    Of course, Politico buried it in their story.

    One veteran Democratic operative, who blames overheated rhetoric for the shooting, said President Barack Obama should carefully but forcefully do what his predecessor did.

    “They need to deftly pin this on the tea partiers,” said the Democrat. “Just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and anti-government people.”

    Another Democratic strategist said the similarity is that Tucson and Oklahoma City both “take place in a climate of bitter and virulent rhetoric against the government and Democrats.”

    This Democrat said that the time had come to insist that Republicans stand up when, for example, a figure such as Fox News commentator Glenn Beck says something incendiary.

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    Publius219 said:
    I think you’re literally the only commenter not “hiding” behind a phony name.

    He is so repetitive that it has become boring.

  • mcf1757

    Something funny to your mind away from the news of the day, Jimmy Fallon brings us the Pro Bowl Shuffle!!
    http://newsallaroundus.blogspot.com/2011/01/something-funny-to-your-mind-away-from.html

  • Dem4Ever

    Joe trying to be relevant.  Say it ain’t so Joe.

  • mcf1757

    ^take

  • juan

    Joe was a JourNoList member.

    “Nuff said.

  • TfT

    This whole show was a waste of time, including Rachel who refused to have Obama take any heat for his”bring a gun” comment…in hers and Howie’s minds, it was all abaout Sarah.

    what a shock, NOT

    CNN=-Client Nine News
    CNN – Crap and Nonesense Network

    Wasted time watching this crap.

    Joe attacks FNC on CNN – how unusual.

    Joke stuff

  • MediaiteCensorsSux

    MSNBC is as bad as Fox, it’s about time some one in the “respected” media fessed up about it.

  • the real john t

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Nobody is going to NOT LET me say what I want to describe socialist left-wing nuts like her. That is the kind of talk that makes people angry enough to take up arms to stop people like her from violating the Constitution.

    Hey blowhard, do you see the comparison you have with the shooter? You both make You Tube videos of yourself where you spew your hate for others. All your’s and his videos are ignorant rantings. You just make a fool of yourself. Maybe you should be investigated.

  • The Real Royal King

    I think this is true. I would say, FOX News: Serving …, I agree that MSNBC is not quantitatively the hate-fillled network FOX “News” is, but it has at times qualitatively been so. By MSNBC, I would mean Oblermann and Schultz.

  • Jackyboy

    Yea right, blame every living person in the entire history of the world with an opinion except the shooter himself. And Joe Klein is supposed to be an objective voice on hateful rhetoric? Please… Joe, go make yourself relevant somewhere else.

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Puby, We’re all still waiting for you libs to post this violence inciting rhetoric from Beck, Limbaugh, or FOX. If it’s so rampid, why are you guys having such a hard time finding it?

    Give it a rest, Michelle-in-Utah. We need go no further than the hate behind “Barack, the Magic Negro” and Beckerhead’s infamous and hate-filled comments on FOX and Friends which led to most legitimate sponsors abandoning him.

    And, it’s “rampant” not “rampid”. I have overlooked a number of illiterate and semi-literate comments today in a spirit of charity, but that’s just too blatant and offensive.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Publius219 said:
    I think you’re literally the only commenter not “hiding” behind a phony name. Perhaps a Presidential Courage Award is in order? I’d imagine that’d be a pretty big boost to your already budding internet radio superstardom.

    I am not on any “internet” radio. As usual you can do nothing but lie.

  • The Real Royal King

    Jackyboy said:
    Yea right, blame every living person in the entire history of the world with an opinion except the shooter himself. And Joe Klein is supposed to be an objective voice on hateful rhetoric? Please… Joe, go make yourself relevant somewhere else.

    Everyone is blaming the shhotist. Not a single comment by anyone has indicated otherwise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roy-Streit/100000775013877 Roy Streit

    When the right-wing propaganda machine can come up with 1/10 the demonstrable distortions, misrepresentations, deceptively edited video and outright LIES about MSNBC as mediamatters documents about Fox perhaps Kline might begin to have a slight moral equivalence.

    The slight mistakes and perhaps some harsh rhetoric any of the liberal hosts make on MSNBC And remember MSNBC starts the broadcast day off with 3 hours of conservative Joe Scarborough trying to set the talking points with ‘fair and balanced’ panel of corporate apologists.

    MSNBC = horny high school kid copping a feel. CNN = male chauvinist boss copping a feel. Fox = serial rapist.

  • notsofast

    Joe “Decline” is a nobody. He shills weekly in Time for libs and Barry.

  • notsofast

    Roy Streit said:
    The slight mistakes and perhaps some harsh rhetoric any of the liberal hosts make on MSNBC

    Yeah, spin it you lib shill. You mean the lies and hate from MSNBC.

    LMAO

    The more I think of you, the less I think of you.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Royal Pain in the Butt says:

    Give it a rest, Michelle-in-Utah. We need go no further than the hate behind “Barack, the Magic Negro” and Beckerhead’s infamous and hate-filled comments on FOX and Friends which led to most legitimate sponsors abandoning him.

    So you are calling the liberal LA times that penned the term hate-filled? Got it, thanks!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    The shame — and hypocrisy — of CNN

    Yesterday’s horrific and senseless shooting of more than a dozen people in Tucson, including Representative Gabrielle Giffords, provided a look into the biases of much of the American media — and it was not just an ugly sight, but a shamefully hypocritical peek as well, as Byron York points out. In the last public mass-murder shooting fourteen months ago at Fort Hood, the media spent the first few hours scolding anyone who suggested that it might be an act of terror or that Major Nidal Hasan’s religious beliefs might be relevant before every last fact was exposed:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/09/the-shame-and-hypocrisy-of-cnn/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roy-Streit/100000775013877 Roy Streit

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Why in the age of Google, are you libs having such a hard time finding all of this violent rhetoric from FOX, Limbaugh, and Beck?

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:….

    Democrats plotted to blame the tea party patriots for yesterday’s slaugher in Arizona.

    A democratic operative admitted this to The Politico.
    Of course, Politico buried it in their story.

    One veteran Democratic operative, who blames overheated rhetoric for the shooting, said President Barack Obama should carefully but forcefully do what his predecessor did.

    “They need to deftly pin this on the tea partiers,” said the Democrat. “Just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and anti-government people.”

    Another Democratic strategist said the similarity is that Tucson and Oklahoma City both “take place in a climate of bitter and virulent rhetoric against the government and Democrats.”

    This Democrat said that the time had come to insist that Republicans stand up when, for example, a figure such as Fox News commentator Glenn Beck says something incendiary.

    Well I’ll be DAMNED! Finally a Democratic strategist who makes sense!

    And the other simply speaks the truth! But he is flat out dreaming if he thinks any RepubliCON is going to take on Beck on the record. At best it will be an anonymous source such as the one in Politico: “A senior Republican senator, speaking anonymously in order to freely discuss the tragedy, told POLITICO that the Giffords shooting should be taken as a “cautionary tale” by Republicans…. ” http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47294.html#ixzz1AZjVxfqQ

  • the real john t

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    So you are calling the liberal LA times that penned the term hate-filled? Got it, thanks!

    The trouble with that is the LA Times didn’t include Barrack at the first of that song. Rush Limbaugh did.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    You can spin it any way you want John, Rush was mocking a LIB LA times article who called him the magic negro. Man, you guys hate the facts!

  • the real john t

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    You can spin it any way you want John, Rush was mocking a LIB LA times article who called him the magic negro. Man, you guys hate the facts!

    NO! Go look it up, you are the one that hates the facts when they don’t agree with you. The song was originally written about Al Sharpton. Do some research before making a total fool out of your sorry pathetic ass.

  • The Enola Gay

    Probably NOT wrong said:
    Beck pointedd out once that Klein was a little guy about5 foot tall with a severe case of LMS. Never tell a short guy he is short.They will never forgive you!Problem is he is a little guy with a big mouth. Irrelevant!!

    Klein may be short, but in terms of intellectual stature, he has it all over you. Your comment was beneath contempt.

  • The Enola Gay

    NOBAMA 2012 said:
    Joe WHO? Appearing on the Communist News Network…a nobody appearing on a Lousy-Ratings-Cable-Network…who the heck cares what this Liberal Lewzer has to say…

    And you have just proved Mr. Klein’s erudite comments. It seems that you only listen to Fox, and therefore only have a one-sided view of things. That is something you would never have learned in a college history or political science course. You preach only to your choir (which assuredly does not have a Christian message), which is no way to convince others of the sanctity of your argument.

  • The Enola Gay

    NOBAMA 2012 said:
    “We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,” B. Hussein Obama “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” B. Hussein Obama

    Your use of Hussein, as well as one letter for the President’s first name, is further evidence of your extremism. I am pretty sure you are probably a birther that hates all things Muslim. Why not just come out and say it?

  • The Enola Gay

    gordonbloyershow said:
    NUTS like you that hide behind phony names and spew hate are the problem. When Lincoln, JFK, RFK, MLK and Harvey Milk were killed Palin, Beck and Limbaugh were not around. Why were they shot?This has been going on since Ceasar.The ONLY people that are responsible are the assasins. Palin, Beck, Limbaugh and Fox have done NOTHING to apologize for.I will continue to TARGET people like you and all your left-wing friends. People have always been targeted for political defeat at the ballot box. NOT ONE of the people the left trys to blame for these shooting has ever advocated shooting anyone.

    Funny how you never chastise your right wing brethern for their use of phony names. That juvenile attack is really childish.

    For the record, Lincoln was murdered by a Southern sympathizer. JFK was murdered by one with both left and right wing leanings. Martin Luther King was murdered by a KKK sympathizer, and a right winger. Milk was murdered by an anti-gay bigot. Limbaugh, et. al., were not around, of course. Don’t use such a childish argument. But then again, the real hate between the parties began when Limbaugh gave voice to a hate-filled minority.

  • The Enola Gay

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    You can spin it any way you want John, Rush was mocking a LIB LA times article who called him the magic negro. Man, you guys hate the facts!

    And man, you guys love to protect your bigots. That song is racist. And you and the other Limbaugh todies lap it up. Why do you hate so much? You really need a therapist. You can probably find one who did not go to an elitist college. Maybe Dr. Beck of the Beck Institute can help you there.

  • TfT

    According to lefty The Enola Gay, using hehimself’s name is now extremism.

    It doesn’t get much more looney than that — unless of course you are Klein on CNN making a fool out of yourself, as was the case today.

    Stupid is as stupid does….Klein, Howie et al.

  • The Enola Gay

    TfT said:
    According to lefty The Enola Gay, using hehimself’s name is now extremism. It doesn’t get much more looney than that — unless of course you are Klein on CNN making a fool out of yourself, as was the case today. Stupid is as stupid does….Klein, Howie et al.

    You make absolutely no sense. Your first sentence is incomprehensible. The rest is just plain ignorant. You probably thought Howie’s last male guest was normal, and not hate-filled, even when he kept using the same childish attacks on the President. Wow, you guys are really not bright, certainly none of you attended an elite college (or probably a college….).

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Seeing 2012 From My Padded Cell says:
    “If Rush and Beck are constantly inciting violence, why is it that none of you libs can provide any proof?”

    Two words: Byron Williams.

    The sheriff of Pima County, Clarence Dupnik, said “the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government” may have triggered Loughner’s rampage. “There’s reason to believe that this individual may have a mental issue and I think that people who are unbalanced are especially susceptible to vitriol,” he said at a Tucson news conference.

    He’s talking about Beck mostly, although I doubt that Loughners was a follower of that vitriolic reactionary, not if two of his favorite books are The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kempf.

    Beck’s biographer, Alex Zaitchik, points out that Beck is covering the seven stages of genocide: 1) dehumanization. When Beck compares Obama to Lucifer and goes “progressive hunting,” that’s dehumanization. 2) Classification, the separating of “Us” and “Them,” as in “we surround them.” 3) Polarization. This is Beck’s specialty. Then he whines, hypocritically, about why we’re so divided. 4) Denial. Watch Fox at 5:00 tomorrow. Just like he denied having anything to do with Byron Williams’ attempted mass murder, he’ll deny any contribution to the vitriol that Pupnik is still talking about today.

    FYI: I don’t think Beck inspired this unbalanced individual, not based upon his YouTube postings and favorite books list.

    THE LINE: Too often we do treat each others as enemies instead of opponents. Politics is a game, a very rough game. I think “hardball” is too soft, and so long as Beck employs violent rhetoric as he has been for the last 23 & 1/2 months, then I’ll wage this struggle bare-fisted in a smash-mouth manner. You know, like tough football players do. I’ve made it very clear that “the crucial agreement is to avoid violent conflict over differences.” That’s a line that Beck crosses over in both directions.

    It’s one of the paradoxes of Glenn Beck: he spouts violent rhetoric and preaches (lately) non-violence. He needs to do what he is so terribly disinclined to do to his own detriment: listen to his critics, specifically Olbermann if only this one time.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    gordonbloyershow said:
    This morning on “This Week” that left-wing nut, Donna Brazile, said the “we should not LET” these people use certain words. What? LET? Who does she think she is? Nobody is going to NOT LET me say what I want to describe socialist left-wing nuts like her. That is the kind of talk that makes people angry enough to take up arms to stop people like her from violating the Constitution.

    you sir are an idiot….this remark should land your dumb ass squarely on the homeland security watch list. its dumb freaking wingnuts like you that incite violence then run hide behind your flag, bible or constitutionthat belong in prison….keep talking though……. your day is coming

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    And man, you guys love to protect your bigots. That song is racist.

    You do realize that Rush DIDN’T come up with that right A LIB did. He is mocking the LIB that invented it. You guys jumped the shark with your racism talk the moment it become common knowledge via the JournOlist that it was the stated plan of the left to use cries of racism to thwart ANY criticism of Obama.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    mcf1757 said:
    Gay intern credited with saving Giffords’ life http://mylife-22.blogspot.com/2011/01/gay-intern-credited-with-saving.html

    Hispanic, too – ought to shut down the illegal immigrant line..

  • TfT

    Enola you are the one not making sense. CNN and howie and his guests trying to blame this on plain are the fools. I am fed up with the lamestream media and their lies. Disgusting

  • david r

    Fox News: Enlisting Patriots for Pam Geller's Rally Jan 12th said:
    “Klein thinks much extremism is encouraged by Rush Limbaugh and Beck claiming “Glenn Beck traffics in the most crazy and ridiculous conspiracy theories . . . when you have a respected figure promoting views like that . . . it makes things a little more heated.””

    Right Wing talk and Fox News has led us to the current state of fairs. MSNBC is a small player compared to the HATE MACHINE of right wing talk radio and right wing cable news.

    YOU are the biggest hate machine in this discussion. And what is that ridiculous thing sticking out of your mouth ?

  • the real john t

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    You do realize that Rush DIDN’T come up with that right A LIB did. He is mocking the LIB that invented it. You guys jumped the shark with your racism talk the moment it become common knowledge via the JournOlist that it was the stated plan of the left to use cries of racism to thwart ANY criticism of Obama.

    I see you still haven’t done any research on it. You just blow shit out of your ass. What a sorry pathetic little person you are.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    John, it’s you that doens’t know what he’s talking about. How about you do your research.

    Obama the ‘Magic Negro’
    The Illinois senator lends himself to white America’s idealized, less-than-real black man.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story

  • SarahP.

    TfT said:
    According to lefty The Enola Gay, using hehimself’s name is now extremism.

    It doesn’t get much more looney than that — unless of course you are Klein on CNN making a fool out of yourself, as was the case today.

    Stupid is as stupid does….Klein, Howie et al.

    I’ve seen a lot of really dumb posts from you but with this you’ve topped yourself on the stupid scale. Congrats.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Quiet brain stem.

  • SarahP.

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Quiet brain stem.

    You quiet your own brain stem. Do you have tourette’s?

  • Scott_in_MI

    The Enola Gay said:
    Your use of Hussein, as well as one letter for the President’s first name, is further evidence of your extremism. I am pretty sure you are probably a birther that hates all things Muslim. Why not just come out and say it?

    This statement just shows how extreme you lefties are. Hussein is his middlename. President Bush the elder was called George Herbert Walker Bush in an attempt to critisize his “aristocratic” upbringing. Was this racist?

  • The Real Royal King

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    you sir are an idiot….this remark should land your dumb ass squarely on the homeland security watch list. its dumb freaking wingnuts like you that incite violence then run hide behind your flag, bible or constitutionthat belong in prison….keep talking though……. your day is coming

    I can assure you that Basil Marceaux, I mean Gordon Blower has never hidden behind a Bible. He has never been near one. As for the flag and Constitution, indeed, he does just that.

  • Scott_in_MI

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    you sir are an idiot….this remark should land your dumb ass squarely on the homeland security watch list. its dumb freaking wingnuts like you that incite violence then run hide behind your flag, bible or constitutionthat belong in prison….keep talking though……. your day is coming

    This dolt wants to turn Homeland Security into the Gestapo in order to crush all descent and then threatens violence with “your day is coming.” And this guy says its my side inciting violence.

    I think Meiaite should ban this guy for his obvious threats. You’re a dangerous man

  • The Real Royal King

    Scott_in_MI said:
    This statement just shows how extreme you lefties are. Hussein is his middlename. President Bush the elder was called George Herbert Walker Bush in an attempt to critisize his “aristocratic” upbringing. Was this racist?

    Did you once write for Soupy Sales?

  • The Real Royal King

    Scott_in_MI said:
    This dolt wants to turn Homeland Security into the Gestapo in order to crush all descent and then threatens violence with “your day is coming.” And this guy says its my side inciting violence. I think Meiaite should ban this guy for his obvious threats. You’re a dangerous man

    Did you, perhaps, mean “dissent”?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Oh, the self-appointed Spelling and Grammar CZAR is back!! I thought you’d learned your lesson when I had to point of several of your errors the other day. I guess not.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kim-Barker/693546751 A Kim Bo

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Try me puby! You got nothin and you know it.

    Read it and weep.

    http://www.nowpublic.com/world/freeway-shooter-byron-williams-inspired-glenn-beck-fox-news-2698188.html

    Sorry but willful ignorance is not going to get you out of this one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kim-Barker/693546751 A Kim Bo

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:

    Remember, Rham says you should never let a tragedy go to waster. The Dem’s are taking that advice to heart:

    Exactly, that’s why Dick Cheney immediately brought up invading IRAQ on September 12, 2001. Couldn’t be trying to take advantage of a TRAGEDY there? Spare us even more of your willful ignorance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kim-Barker/693546751 A Kim Bo

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Obama the ‘Magic Negro’
    The Illinois senator lends himself to white America’s idealized, less-than-real black man.

    Thanks for proving time and again that you’re one Glock away from being a hate-filled assassin yourself.

  • Scott_in_MI

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Beck is covering the seven stages of genocide

    Come on GBR, you can come up with better stuff on Beck than the rantings of a far-left wing author. Since you promised the world a “bombshell” about Beck that would ruin his career- but failed to follow through- you’ve lost what little credibility you had. Instead of this continued personal attack on Beck, why don’t you trying bringing down his debating points.

  • Scott_in_MI

    A Kim Bo said:
    Thanks for proving time and again that you’re one Glock away from being a hate-filled assassin yourself.

    Ok I know that facts are difficult for you to comprehend, but Seeimg 2012 From My Window was quoting a far leftwing reporter from the LA Times with the “Illinois Senator/less-than real black man” comment (the same far lefty who originated Barack/Magic Negro.) So are you telling me that the leftwing reporter is close to being a hate-filled assassin?

  • ChrisNH

    Idiot Leftist media hacks have ALWAYS been willing to trade a weak MSNBC for the king of the hill Fox. They know they can’t singularly go after Fox News…not without being hypocritical. So, they decide to sacrifice MSNBC as a pawn in their REAL quest to vanquish Fox.

    Happily, it won’t work. Nothing Leftist media hacks say about Fox has any negative bearing on their numbers…viewers or dollars. It just enrages them to no end that this is so.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Thank’s Scott, I was about to say it, but you did it for me. I swear these libs are learning impaired. It’s like my bumper sticker says, “confuse a liberal, use logic and facts”. Every single day, that’s proven correct here at Mediaite.

  • Scott_in_MI

    The Enola Gay said:
    Wow, you guys are really not bright, certainly none of you attended an elite college (or probably a college….).

    The Enola Gay said:
    For the record, Lincoln was murdered by a Southern sympathizer. JFK was murdered by one with both left and right wing leanings. Martin Luther King was murdered by a KKK sympathizer, and a right winger.

    Hello pot, the black kettle wants to meet Enola Gay. He calls people stupid in one post, yet in another post he shows the world how much of a dunce he is. First off, I don’t understand his Lincoln/Booth analogy. Second, Lee Oswald didn’t have “left and right leanings,” he was A FAR LEFTWING COMMIE. Third, James Ray was a KKK sympathizer, but anyone who UNDERSTANDS history knows tat the KKK was a terror wing of the Democratic (leftwing) party.

    Lets mnot forget the other Kennedy who was killed by a lefty. Sirhan Sirhan was an Israel hating lefty (like most Dems are today.)

  • SarahP.

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Thank’s Scott, I was about to say it, but you did it for me. I swear these libs are learning impaired. It’s like my bumper sticker says, “confuse a liberal, use logic and facts”. Every single day, that’s proven correct here at Mediaite.

    This is absolutely hilarious. You wouldn’t know logic or facts if Glen Beck crawled up your far right wing ass and read “Broke” while you drool out the side of your mouth. Please understand, you are an idiot.

  • felixw

    False equivalency. As Joe Klein should know. Fox News invites Klein on the air to present his views. But MSNBC would never allow a critic of its approach any air time. Fox presents frank discussion between differing views, and lets viewers decide. MSNBC is a propaganda organ of the far left, and believes that its core mission is to only tell one side of the story. People know this, which is why Fox attracts three times the audience as MSNBC, and wins out in every audience segment except the ultra-far-left. Even the leftists know it, if they ever watch Fox, but stories like this are part of their disinformation campaign, and nothing more.

  • SarahP.

    felixw said:
    False equivalency. As Joe Klein should know. Fox News invites Klein on the air to present his views. But MSNBC would never allow a critic of its approach any air time. Fox presents frank discussion between differing views, and lets viewers decide. MSNBC is a propaganda organ of the far left, and believes that its core mission is to only tell one side of the story. People know this, which is why Fox attracts three times the audience as MSNBC, and wins out in every audience segment except the ultra-far-left. Even the leftists know it, if they ever watch Fox, but stories like this are part of their disinformation campaign, and nothing more.

    False equivalency? There is no false equivalency here, Klein is simply calling it as most see it.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Brainstem, I mean Ted, you calling someone else out on their supposed lack of intelligence us utterly hilarious!!

  • SarahP.

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Brainstem, I mean Ted, you calling someone else out on their supposed lack of intelligence us utterly hilarious!!

    Not when it comes to you.

  • StewartIII

    “We abandoned any notion of doing a typical FHWiR when news of the tragedy in Tucson shocked the national conscience. But we were struck by how quickly and opportunistically this appalling event was seized upon by those out to score unrelated points. And yes, some of those proved to be attacks on Fox News. Take for example [notorious liar]* Joe Klein, who [rushed to the airwaves]** to cite Glenn Beck’s “crazy and ridiculous conspiracy theories”. Klein’s example: saying that America is on the brink of collapse. Yeah, that’s really horrible stuff. You [never]*** hear [anyone]^ say [anything like that]^^. Then Klein reverts to form and fabricates:”
    * http://www.salon.com/media/media960718.html
    ** http://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-klein-on-cnn-targets-fox-news-and-msnbc/
    *** http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/12/06/america_collapse_2025
    ^ http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/128896.html
    ^^ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/americas-soul-is-lost-and-collapse-is-inevitable-2009-10-20
    -
    ‘A lot of other things you see on that network, in which the views of birthers are treated as if they might even be reasonable…’
    -
    “We [addressed this]* when Mark Green made the claim. It’s the lie that will not die.”
    * http://johnnydollar.us/files/100815fhwir.php#birther
    ***
    J$P: Fox Haters Week in Review
    http://johnnydollar.us/files/110109fhwir.php

  • felixw

    I see from the headline that Joe Klein “targets” Fox News. So is he held responsible when a crazy person starts shooting a gun?

  • the real john t

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    John, it’s you that doens’t know what he’s talking about. How about you do your research.

    Nope, you still didn’t do your research. Here is what the author of your link had to say about Limbaugh and the RW.

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1342198/david_ehrenstein_responds_to_new_barack.html?cat=9

    Now go suck on that for awhile.

  • the real john t

    StewartIII said:
    StewartIII says:
    January 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    OMG! Using Dollar’s Dump as some kind of credible source. Next you’ll probably use Free Republic or Fox Nation.

  • felixw

    SarahP. said:
    False equivalency? There is no false equivalency here, Klein is simply calling it as most see it.

    You never answered my question. Did you abandon your previous alias over embarrassment at your reputation here, or did Mediaite ban you from the site for spamming?

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    the real john t said:
    NO! Go look it up, you are the one that hates the facts when they don’t agree with you. The song was originally written about Al Sharpton. Do some research before making a total fool out of your sorry pathetic ass.

    You must have never heard the song, you just shoot off your mouth. Sharpton is in the song singing through a loud speaker. Do you ever know what you are talking about? The song lyrics explain the source of the song.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    The Enola Gay said:
    Funny how you never chastise your right wing brethern for their use of phony names. That juvenile attack is really childish. For the record, Lincoln was murdered by a Southern sympathizer. JFK was murdered by one with both left and right wing leanings. Martin Luther King was murdered by a KKK sympathizer, and a right winger. Milk was murdered by an anti-gay bigot. Limbaugh, et. al., were not around, of course. Don’t use such a childish argument. But then again, the real hate between the parties began when Limbaugh gave voice to a hate-filled minority.

    You are not very bright are you? If people don’t attack others I don’t care what name they use. It is liars like you that hide to attack people.
    People at the time of all the listed assasinations tried to claim that opponents of the people killed caused their killings.
    Lincoln was the only one where that might have been true.
    Oswald was a Marxist and he was a lone nut just like the current shooter. The left tried to blame the John Birch Society and an atmosphere of hate in Dallas. That was nonsense.
    Sirhan was a Jew hater and the precursor to bin Laden’s pals. Again the left tried to blame the Vietnam war and the right wing and an atmosphere of hate, more nonsense. Another lone nut.
    MLK, the left tried to blame the KKK and right wingers and an atmosphere of hate, more nonsense. Another lone nut.
    It happens the same everytime.
    You need to quit disparaging the name of the bomber that dropped the bomb. Hide behind a name that fits you, Tokyo Rose.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    GlennBeckReview said:
    It’s one of the paradoxes of Glenn Beck: he spouts violent rhetoric and preaches (lately) non-violence. He needs to do what he is so terribly disinclined to do to his own detriment: listen to his critics, specifically Olbermann if only this one time.

    Why do you even bother to come back here? Everyone knows that you have no idea what you are talking about.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    the real john t said:
    Nope, you still didn’t do your research. Here is what the author of your link had to say about Limbaugh and the RW. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1342198/david_ehrenstein_responds_to_new_barack.html?cat=9 Now go suck on that for awhile.

    WOW, you can’t read can you? There is nothing in that article that disputes what has been said about that song. NOBODY wrote that song except Paul Shanklin and it is a parady on that clowns column. There is NOTHING racist about the song. Only an idiot like you would think that there is and that is only because you can’t hear or read.

  • Pablo

    Fox News: Enlisting Patriots for Pam Geller's Rally Jan 12th said:
    “Klein thinks much extremism is encouraged by Rush Limbaugh and Beck claiming “Glenn Beck traffics in the most crazy and ridiculous conspiracy theories . . . when you have a respected figure promoting views like that . . . it makes things a little more heated.””

    Right Wing talk and Fox News has led us to the current state of fairs. MSNBC is a small player compared to the HATE MACHINE of right wing talk radio and right wing cable news.

    Dude. Step back. Look at your avatar. Look at your ever changing name. Look at everything you post.

    Now, tell me more about hate. I like to hear from the experts. Just don’t bore me with “The TV made me this way!” crap.

  • Michael Charles

    Blower…

    Turn off your computer, go sit in a room with maybe only a TV.

    You are making a fool of yourself.

  • Michael Charles

    Blower…

    You are a second string Bircher yourself.

    Paranoid, a Socialist behind every bush, every Presidient who’s a Democrat is looking for the country to fail.

    It must suck being you.

  • http://none pyrope

    And all 14 of Klein’s fans, plus most of his family members, stood up to cheer.

  • the real john t

    gordonbloyershow said:
    WOW, you can’t read can you? There is nothing in that article that disputes what has been said about that song. NOBODY wrote that song except Paul Shanklin and it is a parady on that clowns column. There is NOTHING racist about the song. Only an idiot like you would think that there is and that is only because you can’t hear or read.

    You didn’t even read the article you pathetic little idiot.

  • ChrisNH

    Publius219 said:
    Because MSNBC and Faux are talking point dispensaries masquerading as news organizations, and their willfully ignorant minions gladly take in all that they spew.

    Hello Katie Couric. Hello Brian Williams. Hello Charlie Gibson (et al). These people and the entities they toil for have been the poster children for ‘talking points masquerading as news.’ You clearly are blinded to that because of your mind-numbed Liberal ideology. But that’s OK; we can see it for what it is.

  • BatBoy

    There is Matt using the “T” word again.

    What responsibility does Matt have using the word Target? Hmmmm!

    Certainly Matt’s use of the word “Target” made that kid shoot the Congresswoman.

    If the Congress passed a law making it illegal to use “inflammatory” words, Mediaite would be shut down, Matt and Tommy would have to fight over the corner where the homeless Ted Williams worked for the last few years.

  • lolitahaze

    sorry, but equating keith olbermann with the lunacy of glenn beck and rush limbaugh is pretty stupid too, joe klein.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    Glenn Beck’s response to Joe Klein has always been just to mock him, which is appropriate because that’s all he really deserves.

  • Papinian

    The Enola Gay said:
    And you have just proved Mr. Klein’s erudite comments. It seems that you only listen to Fox, and therefore only have a one-sided view of things. That is something you would never have learned in a college history or political science course. You preach only to your choir (which assuredly does not have a Christian message), which is no way to convince others of the sanctity of your argument.

    Exactly, Frum said it best:
    “Too often, conservatives dupe themselves. They wrap themselves in closed information systems based upon pretend information. In this closed information system, banks can collapse without injuring the rest of the economy, tax cuts always pay for themselves and Congressional earmarks cause the federal budget deficit. Even the market collapse has not shaken some conservatives out of their closed information system. It enfolded them more closely within it. This is how to understand the Glenn Beck phenomenon. Every day, Beck offers alternative knowledge — an alternative history of the United States and the world, an alternative system of economics, an alternative reality. As corporate profits soar, the closed information system insists that the free-enterprise system is under assault. As prices slump, we are warned of imminent hyperinflation. As black Americans are crushed under Depression-level unemployment, the administration’s policies are condemned by some conservatives as an outburst of Kenyan racial revenge against the white overlord.”

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Scott_in_MI says:
    “Come on GBR, you can come up with better stuff on Beck than the rantings of a far-left wing author. ”

    Is ignorance your middle name? You do realize that “far-left” is communist, right? (Apparently not.)

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    GlennBeckReview said:
    “It’s one of the paradoxes of Glenn Beck: he spouts violent rhetoric and preaches (lately) non-violence. He needs to do what he is so terribly disinclined to do to his own detriment: listen to his critics, specifically Olbermann if only this one time.”

    gordonthereactionary,stupidblowardwithashow says:
    “Why do you even bother to come back here? Everyone knows that you have no idea what you are talking about.”

    No, blowhard, “everyone” doesn’t “know” that. YOu’re the only a-hole on Mediaite that loves to make such idiotic and reactionary claims. I have more education under my belt than you’ve dreamed of getting, so your assertion is a provable lie. I certainly know more than you about media, political theory and truth.

    Blowhard with a show is the liar-in-chief for the Mediaite reactionaries. Gordon is not stupid, just a completely dishonest reactionary, like so many of them are.

  • Nahu Tuk

    GlennBeckReview said:
    I have more education under my belt than you’ve dreamed of getting

    Would that include your degree in short order cooking?

  • Nahu Tuk

    pyrope said:
    And all 14 of Klein’s fans, plus most of his family members, stood up to cheer.

    Methinks you overstate the number of Klein’s fans.

  • Sue

    The king of hatemongering on the number one hatemongering station. Wow, what a double treat for the loons!!

  • Sue

    lolitahaze said:
    sorry, but equating keith olbermann with the lunacy of glenn beck and rush limbaugh is pretty stupid too, joe klein.

    I absolutely agree with someone who doesn’t know the first thing about honesty and truth: lolitahaze. It is definitely stupid of joe klein, but then, he is stupid and olbermann is just insane.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    The only people who do not readily grasp that Glenn Beck is a bald faced liar are his loyal fans who are too ignorant to comprehend when Beck lies and don’t want face up to the truth. Glenn Beck lies about Van Jones, about Obama, about telling the truth even! The latter makes Glenn Beck a hypocrite, not just that one time though, but over and over again, Beck demonstrates that he’s a blatant hypocrite!

    Beck took one college course on the history of religion and dropped out. He has spent his entire life working hard and preparing to be a huge radio star, not studying political theory or political science. Beck is not much more than an amazing performance artist and an extremely convincing demagogue with ideas that Republican, President Eisenhower considered “stupid” in his days as President. Glenn Beck demonstrates repeatedly that he has virtually no understanding of political language or ideas. Beck is a yellow propagandist who comes across as sincerely interested in the country but his motivations are “are, and have always been, money and fame. If Beck has a true religion, it’s not Patriotism. It’s not Mormonism. It’s cross-platform self-marketing.”

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