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Joe Scarborough: Paul Krugman Influential To Bloggers Still Living In Mom’s Basement

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This morning, MSNBC Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough mocked New York Times writer Paul Krugman and, because why not, took aim at bloggers as well.

The article that had Scarborough all riled up — “The Centrist Cop-Out” — was published yesterday and attempts to deconstruct what Krugman views as misleading rhetoric promoting balance and avoiding to lay blame, in this case, on Republicans involved in ongoing debt discussions. Writes Krugman:

So what’s with the buzz about a centrist uprising? As I see it, it’s coming from people who recognize the dysfunctional nature of modern American politics, but refuse, for whatever reason, to acknowledge the one-sided role of Republican extremists in making our system dysfunctional. And it’s not hard to guess at their motivation. After all, pointing out the obvious truth gets you labeled as a shrill partisan, not just from the right, but from the ranks of self-proclaimed centrists.

Scarborough, after joking that “I am shocked Paul Krugman would write that editorial” and ignoring co-host Mika Brzezinski’s insistence that “this is not about Paul,” opined that the columnist is basically a broken record:

If you write the same column for a decade and blame everything including earthquakes halfway across the world on Republican extremism, at some point, somebody could look at an op-ed and go, “Eh. Perhaps there’s a seed of truth to that.”

Then, because it is a universal truth that bloggers are pajama-clad mutants writhing in their own filth and discarded Cheeto packets (all true), he took a jab at Krugman’s possible fanbase:

Let me just say, he is influential because if you’re a blogger, and you’re still living in your mom’s basement, and you got Cheetos all over the keyboard, you type in your underwear, unlike Alex Trebek, then yes…

Brush the Cheeto dust off your Star Wars action figures, virgin, and have a look at the segment, via MSNBC:

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  • Ralph-NY

    I love the stereotype of all bloggers being fat geeks that eat cheetos and live with their parents. Really shows the bubble Joe lives.

  • Valerie

    Yeah, there sure is some serious media bias. MSNBC lets Republicans like Joe and his secret dad Pat Buchannan drool drivel all morning long and they’re too liberal. Ok. I really don’t get that.

    Anyways attacking Paul Krugamn jumped the shark after his feud with Big Bill O’Reilly a few years back.

    So Joe needs to find a new economist to direct his outrage at.

  • Anonymous

    Paul Krugman – yes the diminutive lib who tried to connect Bush somehow to the Enron collapse, even though it was actually Krugman, the hypocrite, who had once sat on Enron’s advisory board!!!!!

    LOL

  • Michelle

    Every once in a while Joe gets it right.  This is one of those times.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t seen this much liberal bashing from MSNBC in…well…ever!  This must be their attempt at reaching across the aisle for better ratings.  Granted, Morning Joe is the most balanced program over at that network, but that’s not saying much.  It’s like being the least corrupt politician in the Obama admin.

  • Anonymous

    Get a sense of humor.

  • http://twitter.com/steveglines steveglines

    I wonder if it’s ever dawned on these idiots that perhaps Krugman knows what he’s talking about. After all he has a Nobel prize in Economics and they don’t. I seriously doubt that Joe Scarborough could pass a freshman Economics 101 course.

  • http://www.facebook.com/FluorescentGrey Fluorescent Grey

    lol @ the blinding hilarious ignorance of ‘Blackflon’ maybe you don’t have the ability to find Joe’s insulated celeb lifestyle as funny as you should, people who have a good sense of humor however can laugh at a) how a young women mysteriously died in his office and it ruined his political career b) how his face gets progressively more puffy over time

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1431811538 Josh Kim

    Yasser Arafat got a Nobel Prize for Peace, so the Nobel really doesn’t mean squat, you idiot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/FluorescentGrey Fluorescent Grey

    yes Michelle, i can agree because i too am a 65 year old old mother who is so disconnected from internet culture that i mock what i don’t understand

  • Michelle

    So did Gore.  Nuff said!

  • Anonymous

    Ted Kennedy is OT.

  • Anonymous

    How much are you paid to shill for the libs?

  • Anonymous

    Nobel prizes are awarded based on degree of liberalism, not competence.

  • Anonymous

    he has a Nobel prize.”

    And Barry got one after 12 days in office!

  • Michelle

    (Politico)
    — A new poll shows that President Barack Obama’s approval rating has
    plummeted to a new low as talks to raise the debt ceiling stalled and
    the president stayed out of the public eye after a Monday night speech
    through early Friday.The president’s average approval rating on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday was 40 percent in Gallup’s daily tracking poll released on Friday. His approval rating averaged 46 percent in June, and was at about the same level for most of July.Val,He’s at 34% approval among you Independents (cough, cough).  Any thoughts?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he can make another Friday evening puerile and petulant speech to America.

  • Anonymous

    Paul Krugman is only influential with the slimy rich leftwing c*cksuckers who live in the Hampton’s. He is as out-of-touch with real Americans as is Barack Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, here is a Dem centrist on how to compromise:

    “Obvious what is being done in the House is not compromise. It is being jammed through with all kinds of non-transparent dealings, people shuffling in and out of the Republican Leader’s office. We’re recognizing that the only compromise that there is, is mine,” Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) said.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has a Nobel Peace prize (LOL). So what’s your point?

  • Anonymous

    Obama has a Nobel Peace prize (LOL). So what’s your point?

  • Anonymous

    Stop rambling. It makes you look like a fool.

  • http://twitter.com/LippyBroad lippybroad

    Joe’s a prick but this is funny. Although I would have gone with a tree. I mean he *is* a squirrel right (look at those squirrel eyes!) 

  • Valerie

    Yeah I have some thoughts besides this being off topic. When Obama hits Bush’s lowest approval rating then let me know and then I’ll be worried. As it stands I have watched conservatives winklevoss Obama’s polling point by point since he took office. Now some in the experience in the mental health field like Charles Krauthammer might suggest such myopic thinking is a result of conservatives still refusing to believe that Bush could have ever really been at a 22% approval.  

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/16/opinion/polls/main4728399.shtml

    Now this is the part where conservatives squeal BDS or Bush’s or his policies aren’t running for anything anymore how dare you bring him up etc. etc. the same techniques that lost them the 2006 and 2008 elections and the same thinking that now formed the tea party which also remembers the Bush years and seem to have actually made the commitment to not repeat business as usual. Chickens coming home to roost is an important part of American Culture and now the GOP has to either let the tea party have the wheel of shut them down. So far its down to the wire.

    So really the big picture issue that Michele and most conservatives want to broadcast today is that Obama is vulnerable-sure-we knew that. But he is far less vulnerable when the GOP splits because the tea party actually expect the GOP to honor their promises. Its fascinating because a win for Boehner is a loss for the tea party an a win for Obama.

    Why else do you think conservatives, and note I don’t say republicans, are running around today freaking out and obfuscating.

    Anyways the best case I can make for the conservative confusion destroying the GOP coalition is over on red state they’ve melted down on West and his Schizo remarks but Erick Erickson is playing the long game saying you ‘ve got to forgive and forget and don’t call him a rino while at the same time excoriating Bill Kristol as a traitor.
     
    Don’t worry about Obama’s poll numbers; any kind of deal comes out of this and they’ll go back up. We’ve seen this before. Why do you think the tea party is fighting so hard? Boehner put their collective credibility on the line.

  • Valerie

    Yes, perhaps it has something about being “not retarded.”  Your point is at the top of your head.

  • Anonymous

    “Any thoughts?”

    Liberals are discouraged he is letting the Tea Party hold this country hostage and they are vocalizing it.
    Thus his approval numbers go down.

    This has nothing to do with votes because ultimately he wont be abandoned by the Left.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone at the table, even Joe, conceded Krugman was right this time.

    Actually, it was the same thing Scarborough has been saying for a week, he is just mad that he and Paul are on the same page. lol

  • Anonymous

    Everyone at the table, even Joe, conceded Krugman was right this time.

    Actually, it was the same thing Scarborough has been saying for a week, he is just mad that he and Paul are on the same page. lol

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Obama has a Nobel Prize for Peace.  So they aren’t worth as much to me or anyone I know as toilet paper. If Krugman really did know economics he would be vocal against more debt. Economics 101 doesn’t allow for slop in your math to clear debt. Krugman and Obama lives on slop.

  • Valerie

    But do you know if he’s popular with the retarded?  I look to you as an expert on such matters.

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s economic plan came straight out of the Krugman playbook.  Which tells you everything you need to know about the wisdom of Paul Krugman.   If you could really create prosperity by spending more money than you make — as Krugman believes — Greece would be a epicenter of global wealth right now.  Instead it is on the brink of financial collapse.  Which is the same thing in store for the US, if politicians follow the advice of Mr. Krugman.

  • Valerie

     In some ways you are right-the numbers are reflecting some liberal and some independent discontent.

    Like Bill Maher and John Stewart types who are disappointed and its not like they’re suddenly going to vote GOP!!!!!

    The numbers do not represent s new wave of Republican discontent because his rating with them has never risen above a 35% approval-those number have been set since the election. He has neither won more or lost more GOP support. The battle lines as michelle suggests are with independents.

    Anyways the Congressional Approval rating is 6% so nobody really looks good here.  

  • Anonymous
  • Michelle

    We shall see, I guess.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Krugman sounds greek to me when I hear him talk!

  • Anonymous

    Description of Ad Hominem

    Translated from Latin to English, “Ad Hominem” means “against the man” or “against the person.”

    An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. 

    First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or thecharacter, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim).

    Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of ”argument” has the following form:

    Person A makes claim X.
    Person B makes an attack on person A.
    Therefore A’s claim is false.

    The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).

    Example of Ad Hominem

    Bill: “I believe that abortion is morally wrong.” 
    Dave: “Of course you would say that, you’re a priest.” 
    Bill: “What about the arguments I gave to support my position?” 
    Dave: “Those don’t count. Like I said, you’re a priest, so you have to say that abortion is wrong. Further, you are just a lackey to the Pope, so I can’t believe what you say.”

    Science experiment: I’ve decided I’m going to slowly introduce the tea-baggers to false arguments and see what happens.

  • http://twitter.com/Fools_RushL_in Langway in Bowie

    Krugman’s also popular with the Nobel Prize committee, which may be slightly more influential than the approval of conservative math-challenged bromide purveyors like “Rainman” Joe Scarborough.

  • Anonymous

    PRINCETON, NJ — President Obama’s job approval rating is at a new low, averaging 40% in July 26-28 Gallup Daily tracking.

  • nancillarypeloslinton

    Admit it, the old ‘Blogger living in your mother’s basement’ diss never fails.

  • nancillarypeloslinton

    Admit it, the old ‘Blogger living in your mother’s basement’ diss never fails.

  • Valerie

    See what I meant about “broadcasting” Michelle?

    Don’t ever whine to me about who is repeating “talking points.”

  • Anonymous

    HOUSTON (AP) — A federal judge dismissed a lawsuit that sought to stop
    Gov. Rick Perry from sponsoring a national day of Christian prayer and fasting,
    ruling Thursday that the group of atheists and agnostics did not have legal
    standing to sue.
    http://news.yahoo.com/judge-tosses-attempt-stop-texas-prayer-rally-212259072.html

    Poor left wing retards; get a brain.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Nice post, except I am not sure why you put it here as I see plenty enough of this coming from both sides, rarely are there actual conversations in this forum, mostly alot of mud slinging from all sides.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    So is our president and how is that working out…  2 declared wars, 1 undeclared, and a couple of other countries where our drones are killing people as we speak….  point being is that his Nobel Prize is pretty much meaningless. 

  • Anonymous

    How is that a “talking point?” By the way, how’s your disgust for innocent Downs Syndrome babies? Got any more sick jokes about them to share with all of us today?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Are you suggesting that Kennedy snuck into Scarborough’s and committed that crime?  Sounds logical to me, fits the family profile.

  • Anonymous

    The blogger stuff is pointless.what isn’t is Krugman’s assertion that something that has been a part of our political system,which is dysfunction,since long before the Tea Party existed is caused by the Tea Party or even by Republicans.Our system has vbeen dysfunctional for decades.It is dysfunctional because the people who are a part of it are too busy worrying about thier own futures to worry about ours.It doesn’t matter what party or what part of a party they are in,they are all the same.

    The debt crisis situation is just another in a series of issues we sent people to DC to deal with.Once they got there they decided to use those issues to thier own advantage o perception of an advantage.

    Ultimately once again we get screwed yet we keep bending over and asking for another one sir.

  • Valerie

    I didn’t know Trig was :”left”-but then I guess he doesn’t know his left from his right so that makes sense.

    He’s kind of a mama’s boy that way. 

  • Anonymous

    Valerie, no need to stalk me. If you want to suck my c*ck, just ask.

  • Anonymous

    The gold-plated credit rating of the United States — an article of
    faith across America and, indeed, around the world — may be at risk in coming
    years as the nation copes with its growing debts.

    That sobering assessment, issued Monday by Moody’s Investors
    Service, provided a reminder that even AAA-rated United States
    Treasury bonds, supposedly the safest of safe investments, could be
    downgraded one day if Washington failed to manage the federal debt.

     

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/business/global/16rating.html

     

    That warning was given March 15, 2010. What did the Messiah and his
    Democratic disciples do in response?  Run
    up a $1.5 Trillion dollar deficit in 2011. Seriously, is the Democratic Party
    completely retarded?
     

  • Valerie

    Yup. And I will everytime I see your asshole buddy bringing up the retarded.

    Count it. 

  • Anonymous

    The problem is with these left and right wing fringe and partisans who actually believe they are at the center. Actually its not really a problem because they are only the fringe. What they are doing though is justifying them not waking up and climbing out of the group think festering holes they have dug themselves into. Hopefully Americans are waking up and rejecting all of this partisan and idealistic doctrine being shot at them, and elect people who actually care about the issues facing this country who will go about them in a rational and weighed out manor.

  • Anonymous

    Klugman enjoys the company of most economists, including conservative economists, with regard to stimulus money.  We need a lot more of it.  

    It seems like the novelty of truth has wore off for Scarborough.  It’s always the same boring thing, day after day. 

    Lies, on the other hand, are more pliable and can be newly fashioned to fit the moment and presented in far more  entertaining ways.  Better for ratings. 

  • Valerie

    Can I? Let’s meet.

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t let a left wing c*nt like you suck my dick. LOL

  • Valerie

    I bet you would. You backing down big man? I understand. Men like you never follow through. 

  • KarlSpensen

    Just another example of an overeducated elitist EGGHEAD “economist” trying to tell True Americans what to do!!!!!!111  Krugman and his kind at the BLUE York Times can go SUCK AN EGG as far as this Right-Thinking Patriot is concerned!!!111  As far as Joe Scarborough is concerned – he will ALWAYS be a RINO to me!!!!!111  Just because you say ONE non America-hating thing every few years and are friends with Pat Buchannan does NOT change the fact that you have a show on MS-PEE-ON-ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

  • Anonymous

    “with regard to stimulus money.  We need a lot more of it.”

    With a 1.5 Trillion dollar deficit in 2011 alone, where do you plan on getting it? Off a tree?

  • Anonymous

    Good to know you are still keeping it classy with bashing handicapped kids.

  • Anonymous

    Borrow it.  Just like George Jr did.

  • Anonymous

    If Joe keeps this up he may earn back some of my respect.

  • http://twitter.com/WorldDivider Mark Prior

    Kennedy committed manslaughter and he still got to keep his seat so there’s that.

  • Don Millard

    Wow. Did you make it past 5th grade?

  • Anonymous

    yes because we all should take what internet douchebag # 345907097907097097079070970757527853 who read atlas shrugged once and thinks they know econ.  sit down and shut the hell up.

  • Anonymous

    hey joe

    bloggers in the basement > dead interns in the closet.

    get back to fixing mika her drink, bitch boy.

  • Anonymous

    remind me why conservatives think they know more about economics.

    these are the people who lined up to vote for george w. bush.  why don’t we dig up ted bundy and ask him for dating advice while we’re at it.

    conservatives, naturally, don’t like college educations because the only place they can get degrees in stuff they’re into like cousin humping 101 or majoring in magical unicorns and the bible is liberty university.  of course conservatives think krugman is an elitist, he showers everyday and brushes his teeth. 

    meanwhile, conservatives need to stick to stuff they know like Brawndo.  its got electrolytes.

  • nobody

    Wait — are you suggesting you aren’t being paid for this?

  • expatpatriot

    Yeah, Krugman’s lifetime of achievements — including the Nobel Prize — and sharp and incisive commentary on politics and economics published weekly in one of the most distinguished newspapers in the world would only be of interest to basement-dwellers.

    Scarborough is sometimes reasonable several days in a row, but he seems to have fallen out of the roller coaster recently.

  • Anonymous

    From who?  Who wants more US debt?

    Btw, let’s say that we do borrow more.  How are we going to afford to make more payments on NEW debt and what do we do when we get to the point that we cannot afford the interest payments in the future?

  • Anonymous

    One should expose others to the elements of critical thinking, even if they can’t grasp it, nor use it. 

    It’s our only hope, slight as it is.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, shut up!  Debt WORKS on a government level!  See how well it’s working now?  Well, let’s DOUBLE DOWN! 

    ROFL

    Seriously, whatever drugs you’re doing, they must be good.  What’s it like to transcend reality?

  • Anonymous

    Krugman looks like those perverts whose picture you see printed in the news paper…just say’n.

  • Jerry Baustian

    I’ve forgotten what Krugman did, back in the 1970s or 1980s, that led the Nobel Committee to decide he qualified for a prize. It was a fairly technical and not terribly significant study — it’s not as if there’s a Krugman Theorem or a Krugman Hypothesis or a Krugman Rule. I think they gave him the prize as a way of saying thank-you for the crappy articles he writes for the New York Times. 

    Speaking of bloggers, some of them have pointed out that Krugman took one position when Bush was president, then turned 180° after Obama took office. What was bad before, became good when Obama did it, and vice-versa.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Each of the speeches and press conferences he’s given in the last 10-14 days have knocked one or two percentage points off the president’s popularity.

    Obama is not The One. He is just a human, and that whole “eat your peas” schtick is not very attractive.

  • Open your eyes

    Read your history and the recovery from the depression… what FDR did to get people back to work, get the economy back up and working and improve our infrastructure… It took money… NOT for the richest who are hiding their money in the Islands and elsewhere…. Until people wake up to the truth, nothing is going to change

  • Tedderman

    Each and every day Joe (Tojo) Scarborough looses a little more grip on his very tenuous grip of reality.

  • Dickin’s Cider

    Bit by bit you can see Morning Joe loose a little bit more of his grip on reality every day.

  • Dickin’s Cider

    Bit by bit you can see Morning Joe loose a little bit more of his grip on reality every day.

  • Aaron Schroeder

    Except, of course, for the likes of Gary Becker, Greg Mankiw, Edward Prescott, Robert Lucas, or Steven Levitt.

    Sounds to me like you don’t know what you’re talking about.  Obviously, the Nobel Prize in economics is not the same as the prize in Peace.  But, I think you’d be hard pressed to convince anyone (who can read) that the Peace prize is given out simply because the Laureates are liberal – Nelson Mandela, anyone?

  • Aaron Schroeder

    Oh really?  How about the Helpman-Krugman Theory?  It’s a theory about the roles that returns to scales and networking play in the field of New Trade Theory.  This is the area of work for which he was awarded the Nobel Prize.

  • Jerry Baustian

    I tried to make sense of it and to compare it to other significant work in international trade. By that measure, Krugman’s work falls short of the standard of what deserves a Nobel Prize.

    I suppose it’s possible — improbable, but still possible — that the list of nominees was so short and so undistinguished that Krugman ended up as the best of the lot. In that case they should have skipped a year, rather than devalue the significance of this award.

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