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Joe Scarborough To DC: Stop Telling Us About Why The Other Guy Comes Up Short

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This morning on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough took a moment to vent about about the in-fighting within Washington.

He pointed out an article in the New York Times that, as he described it, said that the mess we’re currently in where the economy and jobs are concerned is “worse than a recession.” The paper reported that, post-recession, incomes fell 6.7 percent between June 2009 and June 11, compared with a fall of 3.2 percent between December 2007 and June 2009, or during the recession. This weekend on Meet the Press, Sen. Paul Ryan criticized the President’s efforts to revitalize the economy by relying on a “reshash” of older plans that have already proven to be ineffective. And, in his weekly radio address, President Barack Obama told Republicans who think they have a better plan to “prove it” — all resulting in quite a frustrating time, to put it mildly, for Americans who are struggling right now, or who are looking to their government officials for answers, only to find squabbling.

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Count Scarborough firmly within that second camp:

It would just seem to me, logically, whether you were running a business that was in trouble or whether you’re running a football team that was in trouble, or whether you were in a rowboat that was in trouble… if the business or the football team were failing, or if the rowboat was sinking, you would do something. You would talk to the guy on the other side of the rowboat and said, “We’re going to have to figure something out.”

I mean, while Republicans and Democrats fight and do nothing, millions and millions of Americans suffer. Suffer so much. And the suffering continues. Part of the problem with the decline in income is the fact that people have given up looking for work, because there are no jobs to be had.

He continued:

I’ve made no secret of the fact I like Paul Ryan very much, ideologically, on small government issues, I am very lined up with him. I’ve known him for a very long time. But even me, with as much as I like Paul Ryan — and it’s not about Paul Ryan — this is a warning to my Republican friends: When I hear Paul Ryan talking like that, I start to think “even guys up there that I like are another planet.” I don’t want to hear you talk about why Barack Obama’s got it wrong anymore, or when Barack Obama talks about the Republicans and George W. Bush, I feel the same way. I feel like they’re on another planet. Stop talking to us about why the other guy comes up short. Start talking to each other.

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  • Anonymous

    Obama’s arrogance and narcissism will not allow him to listen to anyone else .

  • http://www.facebook.com/aio.seven Aio Seven

    Did Mika pipe-up, or was she silent from all the pills she pops?

  • Anonymous

    Joe is right of course,he knows it and we all know it,everybody except those dumbasses in DC know it.They’re too busy playing a decades,even centuries long game to see that the playing field has changed,the game no longer applies.they are too interested in their own futures to do what it takes to help us out with ours.

    What;s it going to take to change this?A third party?A bunch of somewhat aimless protests?Certainly both parties offer us no answers.It seems business,especially big business,offer us no help.Finance only wants to help itself.

    It’s scary.What happens if years and years of the same go by with no real answers,no real change?What if the next several elections that use change as a rallying cry offer none?

    We do have a viable system.Democracy and capitalism do work.the problem is that both concepts have been allowed to be completely corrupted and the only people in a position to fix them,to make real changes,are the ones profiting the most from the corruption.

    At this point the only message to send is at the ballot box by either voting out all incumbents or maybe even not voting at all.that’s not much of a choice.

  • http://twitter.com/BusyDay2day Father Time

    It’s a no-brainer that this Congress is full of amateurs and intellectual lightweights.  Paul Ryan is one of the few visible Members whom I think is actually brighter than most people on the planet – the same goes for B.Obama.  However, there isn’t anybody who has the stones to stand up and sternly call out the opposition in away that can draw a meeting of the minds to resolve our issues.  It really is amateur hour.  No one calls meetings and everyone is frightened by the discomfort it takes to get things resolved with your opposition.  We need leadership — from the legislative AND executive branches.  More and more this request sounds like a broken record, but my hope is that one of these days (but more likely months), people will sober up and meet the people’s requests.  

  • TruDat

    Still no sleeves for poor Mika.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “And, in his weekly radio address, President Barack Obama told Republicans who think they have a better plan to “prove it””

    REP. PAUL RYAN:Well look, I suppose that’s good politics, but it’s not factually accurate. We’ve passed over a dozen pieces of legislation, jobs legislation, that are all sitting over in the Senate. We passed a budget to pay off the debt to get the economy going. We passed energy reform. We passed regulatory reform, small business tax relief.

    We’ve passed so many different jobs bills throughout this year that are sitting over in the Senate. Here’s the deal. We have a difference of opinion with the White House on how best to create jobs. We don’t think doubling down on failed stimulus policies, which have already proven to fail, is the right way to go.

    So we want to work with ideas that have proven to work. That means helping small businesses grow. That means getting certainty on our policy: regulations, taxes, debt, so that small businesses can grow. Temporary stimulus, sort of sugar high economics, are now what businesses are telling us they need to create jobs.

     http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/44835126#44835126

    I thought Joe was wrong this morning. Ryan said Republicans keep passing/submitting different legislation/proposals, that end up stalled in the Senate, but points out why they feel Obama’s plans don’t work – because they haven’t.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3VUFTUN5223ITCWO7CHS2CI44A David

    You didn’t read the article or you disagree with what Joe is saying. either way your a jackass.

  • GlovesDonohuesTinyBrain

    I’m an anti-Obama nut who simply ignores the point of the post so that I can unload my anti-Obama $hit and giggle to myself about it like a little girl.

    I’m a simpleton who takes my marching orders from Fox & Friends and Sean Hannity. I have no means of detecting bull$hit when I hear it and my immediate impulse is to parrot it here. Especially if it has anything to do with fake scandals like Solyndra.

    I wish I wasn’t such a pathetic foxtard.

  • Anonymous

    “You didn’t read the article or you disagree with what Joe is saying. either way your a jackass. ”

    You get a D on this due to incorrect punctuation , lack of capitalization , sentence structure and spelling .

    Other than that , ” yore ” ann idyot .

  • http://www.facebook.com/aio.seven Aio Seven

    Yeah, someone has to tell what thrift store she’s getting these vintage 60′s fashion that she wears.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: So liberal! Feel the hate!

  • Anonymous

    Paging GlovesDonahue !!  Your New Stalker Is On Line 1 !!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Obama’s job plan. Tax and spend. Enough said.

  • cdnhawk

    You get a A+ a non thinking right wing idiot.

  • Michelle

    A majority of Americans now oppose giving President Obama a second
    term, reflecting the country’s continued weak economic performance,
    according to the latest IBD/TIPP survey released Monday.

    By 51%-41%, respondents in October picked “someone new deserves a
    chance” over Obama “deserves to be re-elected.” Among independents, it
    was 54%-36%. Back in September, the readings were 50%-44% and 53%-38%,
    respectively.

    Boom, LOSING!

  • cdnhawk

    oops typo…an A+ for being a non thinking right wing idiot….I know I will face the wrath of the mighty glove for such an error.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    You’re not in the least helpful in trying to cure our political dysfunction. I’m sick of the Democrats. I’m sick of the Republicans. I’m sick of you and yours.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Joe’s point is very sound, and it is underscored by the moronic, hyper-partisan remark of Big Petty and his unchanging, inane ideological zealotry and negativity. At this point, we need people bullish on America and people working towards solutions. We don’t need people like Big Petty.

  • Anonymous

    Obama at 41%

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    A totally pointless, non-substantive post that does nothing to advance the national dialogue. Please, when you have nothing to offer, just don’t post.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    And, of course here comes Michelle-in-Utah with yet another self-serving poll. Quick on the polls, but only when they suit her narrow ideology, and short on the analysis. As useless as Sarah N. Italy’s drivel, but at least not as negative as Big Petty’s.

  • Exgoper

    As your snowbilly grifter reminds us, polls are for strippers. 

  • TheCourtJestersAddledBrain

    I call myself The Royal Court Jester because no one takes me seriously and everyone laughs at my pointless posts. I’m another teatard hack with an aversion to facts and data and an impulse to repeat whatever I’m fed through “fair and balanced” right wing GOP-approved media.

    Even the above post shows that I’m too stupid to post anything original.

    I have no ability to process anything complicated — a lot like my idols Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain.

  • GlovesDonohuesTinyBrain

    It was obvious what you meant. Only someone with a tiny brain wouldn’t get it — someone like you-know-who.

  • NeverWrong

    WOW Joey, you are such a snazzy dresser…NOT…! You do a 3 hour show each morning blowing smoke in everyone’s face, you’d think you could show a little respect to the few viewers you have by at least going to your local half-price clothing store and let Mika pick out a few $1.00 ties for you and that other bum, Mike Barnicle. Joe, all the other clowns at LSDnbc wear ties as do your guests, why can’t you???

  • Anonymous

    To sum up : Robert is sick .

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    A totally pointless, non-substantive post that does nothing to advance the national dialogue. Please, when you have nothing to offer, just don’t post.

  • Anonymous

    All the Marys outside the front door !

    No one more full of bullish than Robert .

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    I’m going to go out on a limb and bet that Alex would consider my post relevant to her article, and on topic, while yours is completely irrelevant, off topic, and nothing but yet another personal attack by you, that does absolutely NOTHING to advance the national dialogue. 

    Your latest sad little attempt to derail a thread, and ignore the work produced by the author. 

  • Anonymous

    Yes . Be non-partisan and fairminded like Robert .

    Robert will solve the problems evenhandedly with his wisdom and his Hairdresser’s intuition if everyone will shut up and listen .

  • Anonymous

    Seems odd to be framing your “do something” argument centered around Paul Ryan- he was one of the few putting his neck out on the line with an economic plan, knowingly opening himself up to poltical attacks like the Dems ad of running old people off cliffs in wheel chairs.  Agree with his plan or not, Paul Ryan did something constructive.

  • Exgoper

    And yet still beating or tying all of his Repubnut challengers. Must drive the GOP crazy that as unpopular as Obama is, they’re even less so.

  • Anonymous

    Completely agree.   Paul Ryan is so atypical for congress, he actually knows the detailed work of the budget and provides specific plans that his own party runs away from for political reasons.  Joe thinks he’s right but relies on the post, NYT for his ‘research’ which is just dumb.  

    The House has done it’s work, and the Senate just keeps not doing anything.  At least bring things up for vote. Doesn’t happen because they know they’ve lost the blue dog democrats vote, but the lack of votes is stunningly incompetent.  

  • Anonymous

    What are you smoking? One things for sure,……….he won’t be there Nov. 2012.

    Now go out in the streets with the other scum. They’re waiting for you Comrade.

  • Anonymous

    Read your own reply to yourself.  

  • Anonymous

    Is Joe the fat guy in the greasey sweat shirt?

  • Anonymous

    Wow !! I Have My Very Own Stalker !!
    Color Me Flattered And Have A Drink !!!

  • Grayce

    Here’s what Joe can do about it. 
    1. Use party tags ONLY before an election. After a person is serving, use the correct title, like “Senator from Iowa,” or Congressman from Florida,” or “Governor of Alaska.” Save “Democrat,” “Republican,” “Libertarian” and so forth for party affiliation when the constitutional parts of their activity is going on–selecting a candidate to run for office. Nowhere is it statutorially written that the whole party wins an election and governs. That is a man-made fiction that is perpetuated by “journalists” calling out the news as if it were a ballgame.
    2. Ration the air time you give to poll results–they are not legally held votes; still, the man in the street may think your medium is giving an authentic message.
    3. Rethink the definition of “fact.” Yes, it can be a fact that someone said something mendacious about another, but reporting the thing said is not the same as reporting the truth. It is gossip.

  • http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon- Plz “Like” TruthBeagle

    Occupy Jester !1!

    *drink!1!*

  • Grayce

    There is one other group in a position to fix it: those who report the activity, journalists and others in the media.

    You and I could expect “journalists” to stop calling out the news as if it were a ballgame.

    We could expect investigative reporting in the place of polls, which are not legally
    held votes. We can stop paying money for media that generates buzz instead of an authentic message.

    We can demand a change in the accepted definition of “fact.” Talk show hosts use the idea that it is a fact that someone
    said something mendacious about another. Reporting the thing said is different from gathering more facts and reporting the truth. It just takes longer, and the insider bragging rights for “first reported here” are still little trophies.

    As long as our conversations aggregate our individual senator and congresspersons into “blue” and “red” or “left” and “right” they have safety in numbers (aka matching ideology). Instead, we should look at them as one of a kind, representing a one of a kind constituency.

    The media set the bar too low, and entertain us instead of using their power as the fourth estate.

  • Grayce

    oops! Sarah Palin is not good at that either.

  • Nancillarypeloslinton

    The problem is there is no leadership from President Obama. Even though he campaigned on a promise to hit the ground running with “shovel-ready” jobs which he recently mocked, he spent his first year on Obamacare which would lead a lot of us to question whether or not there is a financial motive and payoff somewhere down the line for him. His ideas have been disproven left wing ideology and to use the economy as his own personal economics laboratory. Squander trillions of dollars on Wall Street and the banking system and do absolutely nothing about fixing real world problems. What an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    He willl be there in November 2012. If he isn’t re-elected, he won’t leave office until January 2013.

  • Anonymous

    Only real problem with these polls is that the anti-Obama numbers go down when he is paired against any real human who could run against him. I don’t think he has earned a 2nd term. The problem is no one looks like he (or she) is any better than he is.

  • Anonymous

    Picky, picky, picky. You sound like my wife.

  • Anonymous

    I think the president has shown a willingness at all times to discuss Jobs and the economy with republicans but having idiots like Boehner not return his phone calls is disrespectful.  So, how do you get around the disrespect shown by the republicans?
    I think the president should try again – invite 2 republican house members, 1 republican senator along with 2 democrat house members and 1 democrat senator for a morning coffee meeting to discuss howthey can change the tone in Washington and create a climate of working together for the American people.  Do this in the afternoon as well for an entire month and see if they can actually agree on something that will create jobs for the American people.
    If it doesn’t work, at least the American people know that the president tried to work with the republicans and come to a solution.

  • Anonymous

    You know the old saying ‘better to take the guy you know than the one you don’t”.

  • Anonymous

    Better than Bush’s plan which was “borrow and spend”.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is that Paul Ryan wants to take away our social security and Medicare.  Forget this crap about how it won’t affect you.  All I can say is “not yet- just wait and see”

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and it is Paul Ryan who the President should be inviting up to talk with instead of Boehner or Cantor.

  • PrezOworst

    an open admission of Liberal dems failure, child talk.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    no he doesn’t. 

  • http://twitter.com/BusyDay2day Father Time

    Agreed.  Boehner has demonstrated that he isn’t willing to stand up against the extremists in his party and Cantor is unwilling to use common sense.  Hopefully, Ryan’s response will illicit POTUS to reach out and get something done. 

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