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Jon Stewart: How Are The Occupy Wall Street Protesters Not Like The Tea Party?

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On Wednesday night’s The Daily Show, host Jon Stewart turned to the Occupy Wall Street protests, explaining that the media’s coverage as gone from “blackout” to its only other setting, “circus,” as reporters from “from all the major networks… and CNN” have made their way down to the live-in demonstration.

He looked at some of the media’s coverage of the protests, most notably Ann Coulter‘s assessment that with “slight modification,” the protesters’ message could have very well come from German Nazis. How, he asked, could they be both a disorganized band of hippies, as much of the media would have as believe, and like a highly-organized, well-trained representation of totalitarian ideology?

Later, Stewart played a clip of Fox News personality Sean Hannity discussing a group that is expressing its frustration over being on the hook for “the trillions and trillions of dollars” being used to bailout major corporations…

…And that group was the Tea Party, back in 2009. And his thoughts on the protesters today? According a clip from October 3rd, they “hate corporations, they hate capitalism, and in the end, ultimately, they want statism over free markets. So they really don’t like freedom.” Stewart doesn’t quite understand the difference:

I don’t get it! Here’s a group of Americans, disenchanted, railing against big government bailouts, angry because they played by the rules, worked hard, now they’re in debt from student loans and they’re unemployed… I mean, look, if this thing turns into throwing trash cans into Starbucks windows, nobody’s going to be down with that. We all love Starbucks.

But these protesters, how are they not like the Tea Party? Alright, some of them, you know, smoke and have pants made out of pot. So call them the THC Party. Aren’t these folks real citizens with real problems? Aren’t they also speaking for America?

According to the media? “NOPE!” One reason? They’ve broken laws. But Stewart was quick to point out that the Tea Party movement’s namesake happens to be “the most celebrated act of theft and vandalism of private property in our nation’s history.”

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  • TbagsRstupid

    Lets ask Hannity.

  • Anonymous

    “How Are The Occupy Wall Street Protesters Not Like The Tea Party?”

    1 – They don’t have teabags hanging from their heads

    2 – They didn’t bring guns

    3 – They are not racist

    4 – They are under 70 years old

    5 – They are angry but not consumed by rage

    6 – Some of them get nekkid

    7 – They are not all fat

    8 – They look to the future instead of the past

    That’s all I can think of at the moment.

  • Anonymous

    “How Are The Occupy Wall Street Protesters Not Like The Tea Party?”

    1 – They don’t have teabags hanging from their heads

    2 – They didn’t bring guns

    3 – They are not racist

    4 – They are under 70 years old

    5 – They are angry but not consumed by rage

    6 – Some of them get nekkid

    7 – They are not all fat

    8 – They look to the future instead of the past

    That’s all I can think of at the moment.

  • Mr. Hyperbole

    Stewart is spot on! Mainstream media loved the Tea Party…just ask CNN.

  • Mr. Hyperbole

    Stewart is spot on! Mainstream media loved the Tea Party…just ask CNN.

  • http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon

    Note to the DNC:

    So latching onto OWS is your remaining strategy for 2012 ??!!!

    WELL… BEST OF LUCK WITH THAT !1!

  • Anonymous

    That’s easy John:  Tea Partiers want you to keep more of what you’ve earned, and they want the government to start living within its means.  The Tea Partiers clearly aren’t demanding that the government help them.  Far from it, in fact.  What they’re demanding is that the government leave them the hell alone.

    Conversely, the deadbeats obstructing commerce in NYC want to TAKE more of what you’ve earned so the government can redistribute it tor their lazy asses.

  • http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon

    I am not the first to note the vast differences between the Wall Street protesters and the tea partiers. To name three: The tea partiers have jobs, showers and a point.- Ann Coulter

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=24617541 Japheth Cleaver

    “The most celebrated act of theft and vandalism of private property in our nation’s history.”

    Well…. strictly speaking, that act was prior the founding of the US. Just saying.

  • Jason

    Well Jon, for one thing, people in the Tea Party bathe at least once a day.

    Secondly, most of the people in the Tea Party can hold a job for more than a few days.

  • Anonymous

    “and a point”

    “Get Blackie out of the White House”.

  • http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon

    Race baiting is so last month BFD…

  • http://twitter.com/Decamped The Dude

    There’s no bigger statist than Sean Hannity. I love how the new thing for neo-conservatives is to pretend they stand for liberty. You were freaking cheer-leading the Patriot Act and wiretapping. You support torture and the death penalty. You’re pro-life. You oppose gay marriage, based on CPAC you don’t even think they should be allowed to share the same room as you. You hate the idea of immigration, legal or illegal. You don’t want to allow workers to collectively bargain. You want the church in schools, hell by the sound of it most of you want theocracy-lite. You want to censor the internet. You want more people in jail for personal use of drugs.

    I could go on with this but you get the point.

  • Tedderman

    Since the NYPD has been turned into the Wall Street City Police by a simple infusion of $4.5 million from J.P. Morgan, suddenly the protestors are outlaws.    default9960 {“method”:”validate”,”params”:[],”id”:1,”jsonrpc”:”2.0″}

  • http://twitter.com/Decamped The Dude

    “Secondly, most of the people in the Tea Party can hold a job for more than a few days.”

    Actually that’s not true, they were mostly retired old guys looking to get cranky at the nursing home.

  • Bob

    I see again we’re treated to this absurd premise the GOP has pushed recently that Hitler and the Nazis were a bunch of liberals. 
    I guess they missed that part where the great American liberal president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, kicked Nazi Germany’ ass.

  • Anonymous

    someone paid off the NYPD police union? wow

  • Anonymous

    As Stewart is so fond of pointing out.
    He is just a comedian and his routine is just a gag.
    They already posted their pot laced, college freshman, left-wing commie professor demands and they be crazier than a sack of  chimpanzees.
    You cannot say the two groups want the same thing….unless you are a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    you mean the guy that put americans in internment camps and got 400,000 americans killed? that FDR?

  • Anonymous

    Well, considering that some group called Anonymous is threatening to bring down the NY Stock Exchange on Monday, I’d say that there is a world of difference.

  • Re-Elect Obama 2012

    You guys love to lament over the high unemployment rate, but if the unemployed go and protest against people they view as part of the problem, then you disparage them for being out of work.

  • joe

    they are not all old fat white people–and they not in buses paid for by large coporate donors..

    and fox news is not promoting them…

    and there are no country singers with fake patriotism saying “Jesus lives–Obama is Hitler..”

  • joe

    then they should stop taking government checks–make nonprofits start paying taxes and tell congress to take a pay cut..
    i mean if they are serious..
    funny how many of the tea party actually live off federal dollars, get federal checks and run non profits..and of course they love to launder money through the non tax paying churches..
    but i guess the hypocricy is blatantly obvioius huh?

  • Anonymous

    CNN gave the teabaggers a debate to push their far right ideology I hope they give the protesters a platform to push the truth.

  • Hopeful

    I have a feeling things are about to get very interesting on main street. Don’t let any of these talking heads and big ego personalities define this revolution. Keep the demands loose and evolving. What scares them most is not controlling the message. If you let them define your ideas for you- they take control of them. And remember, control is what they are best at.

  • Bob

    wait, I thought Michelle Malkin wrote a book saying internment was OK?
    Whatever the case, still doesn’t change the fact that conservatives of the time were the ones making nice with Hitler.

  • Anonymous

    you mean joe kennedy sr. JFK’s dad……yeah wow a conservative lol

  • Anonymous

    you agree with malkin….wow, you must think gitmo is great

  • Anonymous

    Joe, you cannot be serious.  I do not take government checks. I go to work every single day & get a PAY Check.  

    YOU are the hypocrite.

  • Tim Tebow

    It is too funny, isn’t it?

    Yup, the actual Tea Party back in the day was more Weathermen ‘terrorism’ (destroying–GASP–property! remember William Ayers?) than today’s Tea Party–who drive to protests in 90′ RVs with plasmas and induction stoves, etc etc.

    The Wall Street kids ride bicycles and are not a subsidiary of BOA or owned by the Koch twins or run by DICK Armey.

  • Tim Tebow

    It is too funny, isn’t it?

    Yup, the actual Tea Party back in the day was more Weathermen ‘terrorism’ (destroying–GASP–property! remember William Ayers?) than today’s Tea Party–who drive to protests in 90′ RVs with plasmas and induction stoves, etc etc.

    The Wall Street kids ride bicycles and are not a subsidiary of BOA or owned by the Koch twins or run by DICK Armey.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, that’s not true. My family and friends work every single day of our lives to earn a LIVING.  And, we are far from “old” retired guys.  Unless you think 26 & 29 is “old”.

  • Lichnor

    +1

  • Tim Tebow

    “they’re demanding the government leave them the hell alone.”

    They don’t want their farm subsidies?

    They don’t want their Medicare?

    They don’t want their SOCIAL security?

  • Tim Tebow

    Where was the Tea Party when Bush invaded Iraq, ‘No Child’, prescription meds, etc? why living within its means NOW?

    Why the histrionics now?

  • Bob

    Somehow I doubt “lib’rul CNN” will run an Occupy Wall Street response to the SOTU speeches come January, like they did for Bachmann and the teabaggers.

  • Darladoon

    hannity is such an easy (but exciting) target

  • Anonymous

    Bob, while it’s stupid to compare ANYONE to Hitler, you have a serious distortion of history.  Fascism, Totalitarianism, Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, were all tenants of the left.

    “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic
    economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its
    unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according
    to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and
    we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
    –Adolf Hitler    May 1, 1927

  • Luckyirishgoddess

    Grassroots vs astroturf.
    Corporate sponsored=Patriots.
    No corporate sponsors=Dirty F*****g Hippies!

  • Darladoon

    another genius stewart takedown

  • Darladoon

    some banks did pay for extra security, yes

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Diana-Witkowski-Marenfeld/100000297936567 Diana Witkowski-Marenfeld

    if you were down there you would see that there is plenty of room for pedestrian traffice, they aren’t nasty but quite controlled, they are cleaning up their garbage and debris , the police are not currently having any problems, and there is much support. they are not disrupting traffic….. and on a last note..we should not give up the right to peaceful  demonstrations. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Diana-Witkowski-Marenfeld/100000297936567 Diana Witkowski-Marenfeld

    if you were down there you would see that there is plenty of room for pedestrian traffice, they aren’t nasty but quite controlled, they are cleaning up their garbage and debris , the police are not currently having any problems, and there is much support. they are not disrupting traffic….. and on a last note..we should not give up the right to peaceful  demonstrations. 

  • Darladoon

    cjdohio can never concede basic points and create a constructive, dialgogue, he can only find that tiny sliver of disagreement and turn that dialogue into an increasingly hostile argument

    because……..

    he’s just an asshole from ohio

    just like every conservative here, they don’t really want find areas of agreement, 
    they only want to piss people off……

    and what’s really really amazing is that these are working class people who
    stand up for big banks, oil companies, torturers, billionaires, et al (while
    simultaneously cashing their social security checks and/or paying off student
    loans they got from the government)

  • Anonymous

    Simple Jon…the Tea Party didn’t allow itself to be taken over by the Unions the way this group of youngsters did.

  • unmutual

    The Occupy Wallstreet crowd are marxists, socialists, anarchists, anti capitalists, anti semites, big government stooges, spoiled trust fund babies and former/future Obama voters. They are intenionally trying to get arrested and sleep and piss in the street.

    That doesn’t resemble anything the Tea Parties did or anything they stand for.

    But I can understand how John Stewart could be confused as both groups are mostly white.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, both groups are very “white”  – Of course that was used against the Tea Party- but no one mentions it about the Occupy W.S. folks.

    Anyways, here are some differences:

    Fox News liked the Tea Party and does not seem to like the OWS group.
    But CNN, MSNBC, NYT, PBS, ETC seem to love the OWS folks while disliking the Tea Party- add John Stewart to this.

    The Tea Party brought guns- but did not cause rush hour problems for working folks.
    The OWS folks did not bring guns, but had as a mission statement to cause traffic jams.

    The Tea Party folks didnt get arrested.
    The OWS folks helped fund trail laywers and pay for the courts by mass arrests.

  • http://capitolcommentary.com Harrison

    More specifically they are not demanding:

    Free college tuitionOpen bordersOutlawing credit reporting agenciesClosing all nuclear power plantsSingle payer healthcare$20.00 minimum wageForgiveness of all debts

  • Anonymous

    thats why i love idealogues on the left and right, people like you that see everyone elses fault while ignoring those on their side. BTW you are the first person i think of when it come to compromise and try to reach a agreement lol

  • Anonymous

    The issue that I see is that the OWS protesters are in part organized/funded by people who are adding to the problem while they protest against others that helped, in part, to cause the problem.

  • Anonymous

    The OWS protesters can spell, unlike the Teabaggers.

  • Anonymous

    The OWS people are being backed by Public Unions, Media Matters, Soros, and just about every other group that backed Obama 2-3 years ago.  Really not even a surprise.

    “Blame the banks, not Obama!”

    Heh- good luck with that.  I wonder who the banks & Wall Street gave the majority of their cash to?  The D’s or the R’s?

  • Anonymous

    Not sure if you saw Bush’s approval rating plumet Tim.

    You figure Bush went into the 20′s in approval rating because the Dems just voted more?

  • Anonymous

    If you watched CNN they were old and white.

    If you went to a tea party event they were all ages and a mixture of colors.  I went to one in Boston, and it was a mixture of people.  Boston is very “young” during the school year- so that could have changed things, but I doubt it.

    Also, does your agism apply to the AARP?  They are just a Democratic Shill Group at this point.

  • BlackWallStreet10mm

    To generalize is to be an idiot. Anyone who likes Ann Coulter should be burned alive with the witch.

  • Mr. Lloyd Braun

    Looks like the Tea Party was a little movement compared to all those protesters around the country.  

  • Anonymous

    The breaking of laws and the violence is kind of the reason.  Also, the whole “sleeping in the streets” thing.

  • Anonymous

    And the “occupation” business.  TPM go home after a day of protest.

  • Anonymous

    It’s amazing how quickly the media manages to label/stereotype protesters on both the left AND the right.

    Tea Partiers= Old, crazy, racist cranks etc

    Occupy Wall Street= Hippies, no jobs, students, etc.

    Perhaps both aren’t totally accurate….

  • Darladoon

    you can’t compromise with republicans, cjd

    no tax increases, climate change doesn’t exist, gays are a threat, and billionaires love america

    how do you compromise with people who simply don’t see what everyone else sees?

  • Anonymous

    Somebody let the esteemed intellectual Jon Stewart know that the Tea Party wasn’t “the most celebrated act of theft and vandalism of private property in our nation’s history”.  I know this because our nation DIDN’T EXIST in 1773.  I know he’s a hero to the left and the most brilliant person in the history of news comedy, but if a conservative had said this, mocking his intellectual acumen would become the new media past time for the next 6 weeks.

  • Darladoon

    btw, i see fault with “my side” all the time (see:  almost every member of the 
    national democratic party)

  • BlackWallStreet10mm

    Did you ever wonder why the staff at prisons work so hard to keep the people divided by their ethnicity and race? It is much harder to rise up and over throw a repressive authority when the people being repressed are not able to utilize their collective power. The prisoners cannot pose any threat to the staff or facility, collectively, when they all hate each other and are constantly fighting.

    Why do all you people love to hate so much? Why must we all be opposed by politics and race? There is one common ground with ALL people who are lucky enough to call themselves Americans. We are all facing the same economic situations, and we are all facing the same Big Brother that continually spies on and harasses us. After all the Democrat vs Republican, Left wing vs Right wing, Black/Hispanic vs White divisions, 99.9% of the people in this country are in the same boat. This is not football or baseball, and we are not on different teams. We are all Americans and we all deserve the same justice and equality that was meant to be given to us by our founding fathers. We must stop fighting each other, as Americans, and start fighting the systems that allow our government to abuse us and fix the economy like a dirty casino. Opposing the government and questioning it are inherently American, so much so that it was the essential concept to the foundation of this nation. The colonists who fought the British did so because of the very reasons we are now upset with our current government. Yet, when we the people raise our voice to try and unify the nation against the numerous and ongoing violations of our constitution and the rights it give us by the government, we are labeled “crazy liberal hippies.” At some point many of you were manipulated into believing that what was once purely an American way of life, questioing government to keep them in check, is now un-American.

    What is not American is to freely accept anything and everything that the government tells you or wants you to believe. It is not American to cast aside the constitutional rights given to us citizens by spying on us and invading our privacy. Demanding the government does right by the people, for the common good of all, is about as American as it gets.

  • Sillyslapper

    That’s ridiculous. That’s like saying that the pyramids aren’t a part of Egypt’s history because it wasn’t called the Arab Republic of Egypt at the time. 

  • Blackwallstreet10mm

    Just because you want something to be true does not make is so. The protest has been going on for three weeks and just now did unions join in. Soros has nothing to do with this. He is what these people are protesting. I cant speak for everyone protesting, but there are millions upon millions of people in this counrty who are not at all affiliated with either of the two parties in this political system. Many people do not support Obama, and these people have reasons that are other than “He’s black, he’s liberal, he’s black.” I have good reasons for not supporting Obama and the democrats, and all of you have stupid reasons for not supporting him.

    When are you idiots going to stop fighting each other as D’s or R’s and realize that you need to team up and fight the government and its wealthy overlords. Judging by how stupid most of you democrat and republican fanboys are, never.

  • Anonymous

    Collecting a Social Security check and idiotically rambling about Socialized Medicine while using Medicare to get your diabetes medication is a job now? Wow…who knew?

  • Anonymous

    I though male Witches are called Warlocks…….No matter how much you file your Adams Apple down. 

  • Anonymous

    You forgot pot smoking , anti-american, unpatriotic, cuban,north-korean Nazis, intellectuals, atheists, gays, lesbian, vegans from Hollywood. You are welcome.

    Btw, what´s up with your piss-in-the street-fetish?

  • Anonymous

    Stewart brilliant as usual. Epic knock out of Hannity. BOOOOOM!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phillip-Hall/1467499122 Phillip Hall

    I guess Herman Cain is Racist against black people.  No wait, he is Uncle Tom, because he disagrees with you liberals.  A racist is someone that disagrees with a black liberal politician.  An Uncle Tom is black man who agrees with a liberal politician.  Right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phillip-Hall/1467499122 Phillip Hall

    Actually, get Herman Cain (you apparently haven’t heard he is black) into the white house.  The race card doesn’t work there does it?

  • BlackWallStreet10mm

    Very true. My mistake.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phillip-Hall/1467499122 Phillip Hall

    As usual the hate and violent rhetoric is coming from the left.  I guess that doesn’t matter as long as you are a lefty.   The tea party were polite and lawful.  These rabble-rousers are not.  Lets start there.

  • BlackWallstreet10mm

    You first say it’s stupid to compare anyone to hitler, then you go on to make a veiled comparison with liberals to hitler. So by your own equation, that makes you stupid, yes?

  • BlackWallStreet10mm

    I think you brain is broken.

  • Anonymous

    Instead it was completely formed and funded by the wealthiest of wealthy republicans, from the very beginning. And by the way, this protest has been going on for over 2 weeks, and just today did the unions join in.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, you’re right – The tea party is in no way owned and operated by corporate front groups.  The millions poured in by Freedom Works (brought to you in part by verizon, Exxon & friends) and Americans for Prosperity (Koch Brothers) are in no way indicative that the Tea Party has been co-opted by Corporate America since about the second week of their existence….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phillip-Hall/1467499122 Phillip Hall

    So is it ridiculous to compare Tyrannical Colonial Britain, months away by ship, to US corporations.  ( I wouldn’t mind this movement if it wasn’t such class envy.  I hate how the Gvt, chiefly Obama, is picking winners and losers.)

  • Anonymous

    You have to give Hannity credit – No brain or soul, but balls of pure brass.  It’s like he sorta knows that stuff he’s said before could be on videotape, but he’s pretty sure no one knows how to find it and replay it later.  

    In addition to the Tea Party / OWS 180 he pulled off, you can also look at how outraged he was at Hank Williams paying the price commercially for comparing Obama to Hitler, which isn’t exactly compatible to his reaction when the Dixie Chicks said that they were ashamed that Bush was from Texas and lost virtually all Country Station airplay immediately…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phillip-Hall/1467499122 Phillip Hall

    They are angry but not consumed by rage?  Have you seen video of either movement?  Tea partiers were peaceful and polite, and articulate.  OWS needs Cop blockades.

  • Anonymous

    The Tea Partiers are for traditional American values where you are justly rewarded for your hard work and talents. The OWS loons want everything given to them without actually doing anything to earn it, which is what you can expert from a bunch of spoiled brats who were born and raised at a time where everyone gets a trophy just for participating because it wouldn’t be fair if the superior team or individual was the only one rewarded.

    Stewart cheer leading and promoting the OWS loons is going to blow up in his face when the shit goes down, even though he cowardly tried to give himself an out by mentioning chairs getting thrown through Starbuck’s windows. He totally got in bed with the OWS loons, basically joining them.

  • Deep_man_2000

    “we all love Starbucks”? Stewart’s just another sellout. Just frustrated that anarchy doesn’t male good headlines.

  • Anonymous

    And, after all that Gallup polling to get to the bottom of their beliefs, it turned out that their point was this: They wanted a white evangelical in the White House so they could have ‘their’ country back, and also they wanted the Federal Government cut down to just the military, border patrol, and that department that sends them their monthly checks and pays for their motorized Rascals.

  • Anonymous

    And, after all that Gallup polling to get to the bottom of their beliefs, it turned out that their point was this: They wanted a white evangelical in the White House so they could have ‘their’ country back, and also they wanted the Federal Government cut down to just the military, border patrol, and that department that sends them their monthly checks and pays for their motorized Rascals.

  • Anonymous

    lol….Herman Cain is like the wife Gay people used to take in the old days so people wouldn’t know they were homosexual.

    He is the Republican “beard”.

  • Anonymous

    You nailed it, Phil!  And when I want to give my kids a refresher on manners, I pull out the old DVDs from the Summer of 2009 and look at all those well mannered republicans at the Tea Party rallies and town hall meetings, with their patience, willingness to listen, and those kind offers to water the tree of liberty …with blood no less (must help it grow thicker leaves.)    Why, those salt of the earth folks would probably give you the bullets right out of their ammo box!  

    And lets not forget all those fun picture signs for young ones:  The President with the cute little mustache, the president dressed for Halloween as a monkey!    Goodness, when those dirty hippies on Wall Street get those kind of manners and sense of fun, then maybe I’ll give ‘em a listen too.

  • Anonymous

    It’s so cute that the Tea Party went and got itself a black friend!  It’s almost like when the Jeffersons moved in across the street from the Bunkers. 

  • Anonymous

    Think another scan of CNN and the NYT might be in order. 

    CNN spent at least two weeks thoroughly mocking the protest, and then when it got a little bigger, they had their new star Erin Burnett start focusing on them.  Not surprising that she, the former Goldman Sachs analyst and Citigroup VP, now engaged to another Citigroup exec, feels that they are ridiculous and have no point.  Other CNN reporters have been asked to refrain from posting pro or con comments about the protests because of the snide comments aired publically by CNN repporter Alison Kosik. 

    Similarly, the NYT reporters and columnists, with some exceptions,  have also been condescending in the extreme to the protest.  Andreew Ross Sorkin, their leading financial writer, went down and filed a report that was pretty scathing and very defensive of the banks.

  • Jason

    Ya, he’s not as black as the half-white piece of shit who grew up in a white family on Hawaii and went to private school.

  • Michael T.

    Vintage Stewart:
    Steve Doocy, reacting to the revolution, “Let me eat steak.”

  • Jason

    He just presented an accurate quotation. If you don’t like facts, you’re free to ignore them and remain a democrat.

  • Jason

    Nobody is stopping you from turning off fox news or buying a shitload of Dixie Chunks cd’s. Calling you a paradoid idiot would be a disservice to paranoid idiots.

  • Jason

    Unless you consider MSDNC a “corporation”, which those of us with a brain would do.

  • Jason

    Nice retort. Go smoke another bowl and hit the streets, freeloader.

  • Jason

    Based upon what?

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm…. I like your Tea Party style of making no sense.  But just for chuckles, maybe you could try making just a little sense this once: Show me exactly where there could be any trace of paranoia in the simple description of two quintessential Hannity hypocrisy moments all documented on 1080p High Definition Video.

    1) The radically different way he spoke about the Wall Street bailout when it was first protested by the Tea Party from the way he spoke about it when it was later protested by the OWS crowd.  

    2) The diametrically opposed reactions he had to Hank Williams being punished commercially (by Disney/ESPN) for disparaging a democratic president and to The Dixie Chicks being punished commercially (by Clear Channel and other radio outlets) for disparaging a republican president.

    I await your enlightenment, oh wise one.

  • Anonymous

    Indeed – It was hard work and talent that led to the massive acceleration of the wealth gap between the ultra-rich and the middle class+working class over the past 30 years. 

    It had nothing to do with corporations and the very wealthy being able to essentially purchase all the legislation their lobbiests could write.  And nothing to do with the outcome of all that new law making, including the the shifting of the tax load off the wealthy and onto the backs of the middle class, the ultra profitable outsourcing of jobs to cheaper labor markets, the advent of Corporate welfare and tax loopholes that result in many multinationals paying no tax. 

    And finally, it had nothing to do with the wholesale deregulation of the financial markets, turning them from being effective conduits of capital from investors to industry & innovators into a tax payer protected casino for Investment bankers and Hedge fund managers to leverage massive, staggering derivative based bets using commercial banks and insurance companies to stake them, making trillions in the process, then leaving it all to be cleaned up by the tax payer and the rest of the 98% of the population when it all blew up.

    Nope, that huge increase in wealth and income disparity had nothing to do with all that.  It was all about hard work, elbow grease and sheer talent by the top 2% while the rest of the dirty commies and lazy hippies stood around and demanded a hand out from these shining Rand-ian superheroes.

    And only the Tea Party understands the simple beauty of that Fox Newsworthy explanation.

  • Molly

    You completely missed the message of the video.

    But hey, congrats on finding one stupid little thing to obsess over.

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    How are they different Jon? The biggest difference is 2.5 years. Also, no clear message. Also, no senators.

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    Also, 2.5 years.

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    When you say “No corporate sponsors” you mean government sponsored. It’s astroturf if they are sponsored by people who make money, but not if their sponsored by people who confiscate money?? Someone is paying their bills while they encamp.

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    “THE COMMON INTEREST BEFORE SELF-INTEREST.”—NSDAP Program, Point 24, 1920

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”—Adolf Hitler,[144] 1927 speech

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    9 – They are protesting 2.5 years after the Tea Party did.

    10 – They don’t have any clear message or ideas.

    11 – They have not elected anybody into the Senate.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    Stewart said the words “Nations history”.   If Ms Palin said nations history Mr Stewart would be first calling her an idiot along with every liberal.   

  • Anonymous

    The Tea Party is not run by Obama Campaign Headquarters ( formerly the White House) .
    They don’t disturb the peace and get arrested .

    “Occupy Wall Street ‘Stands In Solidarity’ With Obama Front Group ”

    “Why does Occupy Wall Street’s support for MoveOn.org represent a problem? Because MoveOn.org is little more than a lobbying front for the Obama administration, which itself is a creature of Wall Street.
    Another group that OWS website expresses its “solidarity” with, AFL-CIO, has also announced that it will likely back Wall Street puppet Obama in 2012.”

    http://www.infowars.com/occupy-wall-street-stands-in-solidarity-with-obama-front-group/

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    Is your white shame blinding your judgement? Don’t criticize Obama because he’s black. Criticize him for not getting troups out of Afghanistan, or because he has continued Bush’s stimulus plan without missing a beat, or for crushing businesses. But open your eyes and look at something other than his color please. It’s disgusting.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    what guns?
    what racists other then the staged ones by liberals pretending to be members of the tea party.
    Oh and you want racists heres some from ya occupy wallstreet friends.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlKiATQIR_4&feature=player_embedded

    or how about this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18p23-mE4e0&feature=related

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    point?? no more pepsi and coke? ..lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaZF4FJ2eUA&feature=related

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    the person causing the problem is Obama.  WHere are the protests against him??   Probably at the same location as all those anti war protests too ;)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    its always the most progressive people that use this attack against Conservative women they dislike.  Make you guys on the left hypocrites ;)

  • Valkyrie101

    So if the Boston tea party had nothing to do with our “nation”, why did the “tea party” adopt the name?

  • Anonymous

    Funny, from what I remember Hitler actively prosecuted socialists.

    You’re getting the right/left continuum mixed with the authoritarian/libertarian continuum. By your standards, neocons would be lefties,

  • Exgoper

    Today’s socialist party has as much to do with Hitler’s as today’s Republican party has to do with Lincoln’s.

  • Jcrabb

    Pedantic fail lame sunset.

  • Hugo Daun

    TPM go back to the home after a day of protest

    You omitted a few words, so I fixed it for ya’, dummy.

  • Exgoper

    “How Are The Occupy Wall Street Protesters Not Like The Tea Party?”

    Well, for one, they’re not being relentlessly promoted and blindly worshiped by a propagandizing news channel.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: These liberal low lifes will not be happy until Obama and his clan finish the Cloward
    and Piven play to destroy America and all it stands for!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ASHKUEB7ZAMK365JBTKFJPDJI4 gsuvari

    Wow.  You sure know your history.  Well in the words of the esteemed intellectual Sarah Palin, ”that was satire.”  Not sure why’re you so upset.  Perhaps it’s because he threw the words of Sean Hannity back at you, illustrating the sheer hypocrisy of both himself and Fox News.  

    Hannity: “The average American tax payer knows that the end of the day, they’re going to be on the hook for the trillions and trillions of dollars that we’re using to bail out these companies, some of whom have been irresponsible, and they are expressing their frustration which is think is quintissentially American.”

  • Exgoper

    Don’t go trying to undermine the tea party narrative. If it’s not wrapped up in bunting and tricorn hats and pictures of crying eagles and cheerleading for freedom, they’re not interested.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: These thugs are propagandizing for socialism for the worthless pieces of dung that they are wanting to turn America into Greece or some other loser European modeled government!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ASHKUEB7ZAMK365JBTKFJPDJI4 gsuvari

    You’re welcome to Coulter and her snide remarks.  Even she knows that she’s fully of it.  Many years a go a writer, speaking about Camille Paglia, described her as a “peppy intellectual agitator,” which is how I would describe Coulter.  Although she’s not so much peppy as she is martini-laden.  Intellectual?  She’s got a college degree…does that count?  I went to law school with a bunch of guy who don’t seem very smart.  Agitator?  Yes, most definitely.  

  • Anonymous

    Fact: You misspelled spell and I think its smell that
    what’s you are trying to say right?

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Do they get food when they get arrested?

  • Steve85

    because NWA was already taken.

  • Norbit

    No, they generally have MULTIPLE news channels promulgating their message – it’s not called the LIBERAL “mainstream media” for nothing!

    Here’s a quick test:
    How would NBC & the NY Times be covering the Fast & Furious Debacle if it was under BUSH?
    lol
    It’s a rhetorical question, because anyone with the fortitude to be honest knows the answer!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Tea Party members were mad during Bush spending years and then the anointed one said lies to get people believing things were going to change. It did for the worse then all had enough and started to protest the idea of wealth redistribution buy and for government for government and it went from there to the Tea Party protesting. Learn the facts before posting stupidity.

  • Norbit

    Obama gave more tax dollars to the Wall Street Banks - than any other President! -  including ‘W’.

    It was part of the textbook control strategy for Marxism, 101 – use crony capitalism, presidential edicts, and cumbersome regulations to usurp control over finance, energy, justice, and the political system; then, suspend elections until you’re sure of a one-party state.

    You all remember the USSR?
    That’s what DEMOCRATS are trying to bring to America!

  • Norbit

    Obama gave more tax dollars to the Wall Street Banks - than any other President! -  including ‘W’.It was part of the textbook control strategy for Marxism, 101 – use crony capitalism, presidential edicts, and cumbersome regulations to usurp control over finance, energy, justice, and the political system; then, suspend elections until you’re sure of a one-party state.You all remember the USSR? That’s what DEMOCRATS are trying to bring to America!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Tea Party isn’t for any government but less
    more responsible government. Go to a few Tea Party meetings that are held
    around your area and not just post talking points that liberals love so much!

  • Steve85

    i don’t think when rep cleaver was spit on at the capital he thought that was polite.  or barney frank being called a f**?  how polite was that?

    if you are going to judge this group by some that are rowdy then you will have to accept that the tea party are a bunch of racists walking around with guns threatening the potus.

    you can’t have it both ways.

  • Norbit

    “Join us on Wednesday to create a huge show of support for anti-Wall Street actions nationwide. Together, we’ll add hundreds of thousands of voices expressing our solidarity with the protests at Occupy Wall Street and across the country targeting the bankers who wrecked our economy,” states MoveOn.org’s website.”

    Yet, there’s no mention of the 2 TRILLION TAXPAYER-DOLLARS Obama has poured into Wall Street Banks since taking the oath!
    He tried to buy control - with our taxes! – and he failed, again!

  • Exgoper

    I agree with the core of your argument, but the tea partiers benefited from months and months of relentless promotion from Fox News, which tried to turn the tea partiers into modern day heroes, without critically examining the disconnect between the rhetoric and the reality. No mainstream news outlet has similarly taken up the cause of Occupy Wall Street. That will ultimately affect its ability to communicate its goals and break away from the perception of it by some of a collection of jobless hippies, which clearly it is not.

  • Anonymous

    How perfect was Stewart in his assessment.

  • Steve85

    herb cain is just a race baiter for calling out rick parry for something as silly as “n*****head”

    once again, you can’t have it both ways…calling progressives race baiters for pointing out the aforementioned signs that central scrut. points out.

  • IJustH8theFax

    Fact: when I call someone a low life, it’s a case of it takes one to know one. It’s a fact!

  • Anonymous

    I see, so our history books don’t talk about the Boston Tea  Party as part of US history? 

    Somebody should have told the Tea Party before they picked that name. I’ll bet you really embarrassed them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    What a surprise, the liberal Jon Stewart who trashed the tea parties is now going to run support for these socialists who want everyone else to pay for them. 

  • Exgoper

    You’re absolutely laughable because it’s so painfully obvious that you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about (as usual) and only know how to repeat Faux News talking points. Please go tell Roger Ailes that you were a good little boy and did exactly what he told you to do, which is to repeat the baseless, foolish “libruhl media” meme that gets you foxtards all worked up.

    The tea party was RELENTLESSLY and OFFICIALLY promoted by Fox without any critical examination of the disconnect between the rhetoric and the reality. Occupy Wall Street has received nothing even remotely comparable to the fawning, blanket coverage that Fox — and in particular the moronic Glenn Beck — gave the teatards.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Leftist liberals play the I want to pick your pocket of money because I can’t do it for myself just like this hater that stalks my postings. Hey wacko go back to your moronic buddies against american values and let that hiney shine!

  • Norbit

    Perfectly spewing the Democratic Talking Points! – again!

    Here’s a GOP ad:
    Democrats will give you a late-night chuckle or two mocking the Tea Party; Republicans will give you A JOB!

  • Anonymous

    That’s some random speculation that I’m guessing is completely wrong. There’s a difference between a gaff in which you make a clear error , and a very common reference that is widely accepted , that you can criticize by seizing some meaningless and ridiculous technicality.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, let’s have Ann on the show. we can count on her to say something mean spirited and controversial.

  • Anonymous

    The government can’t create jobs so I’ve been told.

  • Anonymous

    The government can’t create jobs so I’ve been told.

  • Anonymous

    Have the job, now I am just looking for laughs.

  • Tim Tebow

    Fact: There was no Tea Party during Bush–even with Paulson’s “socialism.”

    No Tea Party until you lost the election–and then here come all of these phony ideals.

  • Slapblog

    This lame Occupy Wall Street thing is pretty funny… sure, they have the right to do what they are doing. More power to them but seriously people, you can’t see that this is nothing more than a manufactured attempt bythe left to create a counter to the Tea Party. They tried the “Coffee Party” remember that?  Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery some say… only in this case I would say Imitation is the most revealing expression of envy.  They see what an amazing influence the Tea Party has had on our political system and they see their political hopes and dreams fading.  The Tea Party is and was organic… it truly was grass roots. The authenticity shows in the results… just look at the 2010 mid-term elections. You wacky kids have your fun but just remember you are little puppets for the Van Jones of the world who are only using you to advance a political agenda that is failing here in the US as well as all over the world =)

  • Anonymous

    OWS isn’t demanding that either…..

  • Anonymous

    The FOX-hole, Brush Himoff, Yawn Insannity and other toxic talking heads want more exposure of their radical extreme, The Troubling Egotistical Ambivalent (TEA) party has had enough exposure and now these ”Wall Street Freedom Spirited” protesters have their moment to show the world the “People” want their say! This is quite a collaboration, unions, Ben Bernanke and the Wall Street protesters! Most of the blame belongs to the Trash Talking heads of the Terrifying Errant Anarchist(TEA) party run Republican party and their constant trash talking! With the current economic recovery close to faltering, the 112th Congress continues to do absolutely nothing to help with jobs, taxation or any grand gesture to fix this floundering economy! America’s dis-satisfaction should be towards the Terrifying Egotistical activist(TEA) party which controls the Republican/GOP party! The Terrifying Errant Anarchist(TEA) party run Republican Yayhoos will continue to bog down the economy until they are voted out of office! With the current economic recovery close to faltering, the 112th Congress continues to do absolutely nothing to help with jobs, taxation or any grand gesture to fix this floundering economy! The Terrifying Errant Anarchist(TEA) party run Republican Yayhoos will continue to bog down the economy until they are voted out of office!

  • Tim Tebow

    Not sure if you saw the money wasted in Iraq or Bush’s “socialism.”

    Not sure where Grandpa Tea Party was when the economy collapsed and Bush intervened.

    I guess America was fine until the people voted for Obama.

    That was the catalyst, my friend–not any actual government behavior.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIUTYRY4RUDL2KNY63S3DF5HWE Ironhenge

    Yeah the left in America sure does have that TEA Party is Racist and bigoted thing in their favor.

    Oh wait just coming across the youtube wire…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

    or

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…and dozens more just like it all over youtube.

    Good Luck atop that High High Horse of yours John and the left.

  • Norbit

    Really?
    Well, even if that was so (which it’s not), how was the other 90% of the media “reporting” on the Tea Party?
    You forget, we all SAW the Tea Party gatherings, and they were NOTHING like the violence and racism  the “mainstream” media was reporting.

    The most racist rhetoric heard came from the Congresional Black Caucus against White Tea Party members – and their Bald-Faced LIE of hearing the politically-useful “n-word”!

    …and what disconnect?

    Like a good indoctrinated liberal, you dutifully repeat the talking points and ad hominem barbs very well, but apparently with little comprehension of your subject matter. 

  • Tim Tebow

    I accept this one: intellectuals–something the right hates.

    Thinking.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIUTYRY4RUDL2KNY63S3DF5HWE Ironhenge

    Wow…Let’s see how many Lame Irrational Baseless Egotistical Ridiculous Asinine Laughable acronyms you can come up with in 30 seconds. See what I did there the begining letter of each word spells LIBERAL!!!! Man I am clever!

  • Anonymous

    Loaned more money to the Wall St. Banks. Not gonna pretend I supported the whole thing, but lets drop the “he handed them your money” act. The government and the fed loaned money to the banks, and the bulk of it is going to be paid back.
    That said, these protesters are angry about the whole thing. Seems like you might a little in common if you’d stop and listen.

  • TruDat

    You sound like the typically, hypocritically, angry leftist loon.

  • Norbit

    The New GOP will establish an environment where jobs will thrive – by getting overbearing government dictates, mandates and “welfare entitlements” – that perpetuate poverty and irresponsible child-bearing – out of the way.

  • Pablo

    “Get Blackie out of the White House”.

    That’s get Half-Blackie out of the White House and replace him with The Real Thing™.

  • TruDat

    BTW, we’re all still waiting for the 111th Congress’ budget.

  • TruDat

    The truth finally reveals itself; the lefties who trashed the Tea Party since its inception were jealous of it all along.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIUTYRY4RUDL2KNY63S3DF5HWE Ironhenge

    Yeah the left in America sure does have that TEA Party is Racist and bigoted thing in their favor. These OWS folks don’t have a bigoted bone in their body right? Oh wait just coming across the youtube wire… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18p23-mE4e0&feature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlKiATQIR_4&feature=player_embedded and dozens more just like it all over youtube.  Good Luck atop that High High Horse of yours John and the left.

  • Pablo

    This is not football or baseball, and we are not on different teams. We
    are all Americans and we all deserve the same justice and equality that
    was meant to be given to us by our founding fathers.

    Here’s the thing. We have two diametrically opposed and competing visions of what that means. Our Founding Fathers built America on the notion of Liberty and equal justice for all. They recognized that all men were created equal, and that all should have equal opportunity and complete freedom to pursue it. I am completely down with that. However, we have one vision that insists on equal outcomes, regardless of effort, risk or investment. That is antithetical to the founders’ vision of equality. That requires a government that manages outcomes and takes from one to give to another. That requires a government that picks winners and losers. That requires a government that reaches into virtually every aspect of the individual’s life, and robs him of the ability to make his own decisions as to how to live his life. It removes the notion of liberty, of private property and of the unfettered pursuit of happiness.

    the problem is that there is no middle ground between these two philosophies, and we’ve come to what Reagan called A Time For Choosing. We’re arguing that out now, and it must be done because straddling the fence as we’ve been doing for the better part of a century doesn’t work anymore.

  • Anonymous

    I really hope they will bring the jobs back, but their track record is pretty bad. The republicans are just as bought off as the democrats, and having blind faith in them isn’t going to fix anything.

  • Norbit

    Loaned for what?
    So they could use it as seed money for more m&a’s (which they did!), and invest it at higher returns overseas (which they did!); and then give out more record bonuses in 2009 & 2010 (which they did!)?

    This whole economy was bastardized under Clinton*, when he allowed “Government-Sachs” to re-write all the trading and investment rules – the Glass-Steagal changes being the biggest.

    It transformed us from a Capitalist system, funding a thriving and robust economy, to a Crony-Capitalist system, engorging the net-worths of Wall Street traitors…I mean, traders, at the expense of the broader economy!  

    *This is why Character Matters!

  • Anonymous

    The racist signs the Teabaggers brought with them:

    http://gawker.com/teabagger-is-the-niggar-of-the-world/

  • Anonymous

    Let the Leftist limp-wrists compare this to the Tea Party movement. It makes them smug in a ‘So, THERE!’ sort of way.

    But what these Limp wrists run and hide from is the fact that their ideology will STILL get steamrolled next November. These protesters here are aimless porch-sitters who couldn’t describe their ’cause’ if their lives depended on it.

  • Norbit

    Their problem is that they have no one able to articulate clear reasons for their policies, their reluctance to redact the tax code, and their ludicrous belief that we’re still operating in a “free market”..

  • Anonymous

    The New Gop will establish an envirorment. I am pretty sure people want something now. Enough talk people want action and so far neither side is doing anything.

    Irresponsible child bearing, I would love to know how they are getting that out of the way.

  • BR

    Which is why Herman Cain is doing well in the polls.  

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Tea Partiers want capitalism to succeed, want to shrink government and want the American dream succeed.

    The Occupy Wall Street protesters want to destroy capitalism, promote socialism, and depend on the ever expanding government.

    Tea Partiers were frustrated about bailouts because companies should succeed or fail on their own – capitalism. And they wanted that money in the hands of the people, to spend or invest on their own – not more debt creating policies.

    OWS’ers are mad because they want the govt. to give THEM the money, not banks and corporations. More debt creating policies, as long as they are the beneficiaries. 

    The Tea Partiers were attacked by the MSM, Obama Administration and Democrats as a racist astro-turf group of all white people with one objective – get rid of the black guy, 

    The OWS’ers are embraced by Democrats and some MSM as patriotic frustrated people who support Obama, “classic progressive, independent grassroots movement”.

    The Tea Partiers have a pretty specific message – decrease govt. spending, shrink govt., reduce deficit.

    The OWS’ers?

  • Anonymous

    See what I mean, when you stop with the talking points we have lots in common.

    Like I said I don’t agree at all with the bailout. I cant honestly say if it was necessary or not, my economics knowledge is too limited to know if not doing would have led to a depression or not, but I know it didn’t do what they told us it would, which was to keep credit moving. And they didn’t just invest it overseas, they bought our debt with it. Were now paying them back with interest on the debt they bought with our money that they borrowed at almost zero interest.

    I also think that the repeal of Glass-Steagal is one of the biggest reasons that were in this mess. Bill Clinton signed that bill, but it came from the republican House and Senate. Both parties took the banks money and did what they asked without a thought to the long term consequences.

    What I wish you would understand is that I learned about most of these things from listening to a liberal talk radio show. That doesn’t mean that liberalism is good and conservatism is bad, it mean that they both agree on a lot more than the media would have you believe. These protesters may go to far with what they think the answers are, but they’re out there because of the same questions your asking.

  • BR

    The cry from the racist liberals will be, “You can’t have a black candidate because we already have one”.

  • BR

    Typical racist remarks from a liberal.

  • BR

    More hateful remarks from those “tolerant” liberals.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “Many of the protesters are furious with the Obama administration’s kow-towing to Big Finance.”
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/occupy-wall-street-is-a-tea-party-with-brains-2011-10-04?link=mw_home_kioskIf this were the tea party, they would be called racist. 

  • Texan

    Really? Maybe you should tell obama that cause he keeps saying he has. Feel stupid?

  • BR

    And they are being taken over by organized labor unions.  

  • Texan

    patsy, patsy, patsy…

  • Silverado

    Your premise is false. Prison personell separate inmates buy race for their own safety. It’s the prisoners who cause the divide, and create the violent environment.

    It’s radicalism, stupid.

  • Pablo

    Funny you should say that, because Obama is a white kid who looks black. You’re seeing yourself in the mirror, BFD, and you don’t like what you see. You keep telling yourself it’s someone else you see if that makes you feel better.

  • Anonymous

    Nope.

  • Anonymous

    That’s like saying the story about my Grandpa’s childhood isn’t a part of my family history because when it happened I wasn’t yet part of the family.

  • Pablo

    Yup. These are the same people who put Obama in the White House and now that it isn’t working, their solution is more Obama and someone else to blame.

  • Pablo

    Nice generalization!

  • Pablo

    Cleaver was being yelled at. Violating “Say it, don’t spray it” is not hocking a loogie on somebody. But if the lie makes you fell better, then by all means…

  • Anonymous

    But these protesters are not holding up signs with Obama as a witch doctor, questions about his birth and did not have a problem with deficits run up by republicans but as soon as a democrat is in office, you can say ” oh they were upset buy all the spending, but the tea baggers were not in the streets. It only when Fox news rallied them to “rise up”.

    Obama has lowered taxes, kept git-mo open, escalated the wars, not prosecuted anyone for the finical collapse, and his health reform is a giveaway to big business, that does not seem very socialist, he sound like a republican to me. Then what is it that got the people all worked up?

    What could it be that the 99% white tea baggers are up set about?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    B_F_D you are a B_F_I for those comments.

  • Vv

    The same old, same old…
    if “they” said it …
    .don’t you get tired of the “poor us” statements that always come from ;”you people”

  • Cecelia

    “According to the media? “NOPE!” One reason? They’ve broken laws. But
    Stewart was quick to point out that the Tea Party movement’s namesake
    happens to be “the most celebrated act of theft and vandalism of private
    property in our nation’s history.”’

    What sort of reasoning is this?!

    Tea Party protesters didn’t commit any crimes, but their group is named after people who did!

  • Pauldavis1492

    I say both sides have wrongly characterized the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street Protestors.  Jon Stewart slams the Tea Party every chance he can but lifts up the OWSP.  FoxNews slams OWSP but lifts up the Tea Party.  I say both Tea Party and OWSP have my vote.

  • Texan

    90% of blacks don’t pay taxes so why would they care about high taxes? Also, are you saying in your second paragraph that you’re happy with obama?

  • Texan

    You’re ok with obama lying to you? Figures.

  • Cecelia

    No, they’re just in solidarity to Moveon.org.

  • Anonymous

    So now what the TPers did was good?

    LOL

    typical lib hypocrites.

    Jon the difference is that the TPErs had jobs and 700 of ‘em didn’t get arrested and the TPers were not asking for more from the govt!

  • Cecelia

     ”Aren’t these folks real citizens with real problems? Aren’t they also speaking for America?”

    Now Stewart is saying that OWS is “also” speaking for America?

    “Also”?

    The last we heard from him the Tea Party was comprised of a bunch of extremists.

    NOW he’s begging for OWS to be taken more seriously by comparing them to the Tea Party?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    You’ve never been to a T-Partee KonKlave?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I’ve been to three (3) of them, two (2) in the suburban community of Georgetown and one (1) in the somewhat more distant community of Llano, near the ranch. White as Bluebell Homemade Vanilla, old as an Ozona street walker.

  • FreeMike

    How can the OWS be “backed by” the groups if the biggest complaint appears to be they are unorganized and have no defining point?

  • hatessnark

    but it is part of our history, I learned about it in history class, our nation was a long time coming and this is part of the story.  the difference between the tea party and occupy wall street is OWS demonstrators seem to have a brain.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    All the Marys in Heaven, you must be the most vacuous person in Italy. I suppose that’s why you hover here to share your inane thoughts. No one in Italy listens to you. There is not a single Republican who is more tied to Wall Street than President Obama (more’s the pity), and you say the protesters are embraced by the Democrats. How bone-headed and nutty is that?

    And, as for the T-Partee “specific message” it is like unto the 1933 Lebenstraum argument, having nothing, NOTHING, N O T H I N G to do with their core goal, enacting draconian social conservative legislation. In every, EVERY, E V E R Y jurisdiction in which the T-Partee has established a political base that is the first, FIRST, F I R S T thing they do. In Texas alone, what were the first priorities of this year’s regular legislative session? These priorities were:

    State-Mandated Vaginal Penetration.
    State-Jurisdiction Over Churches and Parishes.
    African-America, Hispanic, Youth and Elderly Voter Suppression.
    Hispanic Representation Dilution.

    Nothing, NOTHING, N O T H I N G to do with reducing government size and promoting capitalism. That is, unless you count eviscerating public schools and higher education institution and denuding volunteer fire departments as promoting capitalism.

    And, that’s just Texas. Similar legislation in states with a T-Partee presence are all aimed at the same goal:

    Social Conservatism, SOCIAL CONSERVATISM, S O C I A L   C O N S E R V A T I S M.

    Please, mop up your puddles of drool and then exit.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Yet you just told us the Democrats were embracing the protesters. Which is it?

    Please, PLEASE, P L E A S E make up your mind.

  • hatessnark

    racial issues are at the bottom of the tea party and the nasty exaggerated claims against Obama.

  • hatessnark

    what are trail lawyers??

  • Cecelia

    If they’re so furious at the White House, why aren’t they outside of it?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    We have posters here who condemn the protesters. I understand that. So many Americans always seem frightened and threatened by people exercising their rights to expression and assembly. Yet, what could be at its core more American? I always rejoice when people to that even when I vigorously disagree with what they are expressing. There’s strength, allegiance, nurturing in that. The problem always occurs when these protests inevitably become institutionalized, “establishmentarian”. A very good argument can be made that the T-Partee began not as a grass roots movement, but as an “establishmentarian” one. But, an argument can also be made that there was a grass roots impulse there, for a time. It has long sense been morphed into a wholly establishment, politically reactionary movement, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Republican party. Let’s hope the Wall Street protesters avoid that cruel fate.

    I like your post. 

  • FreeMike

    Yes, the FDR that got America involved in a WORLD war in which several NATIONS were already involved. By the way, the NATION we were fighting started the WORLD war by invading another country without provocation….hmm, sounds familiar.

  • Norbit

    It’s the same Double-Standard that has besmirched the integrity of liberals for the past 50 years!

    Good that you exposed this rendition of it so cogently.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I don’t see any particular inconsistency there. Over time, it has become clear that what at first appeared genuine with the T-Partee was, in fact, false. Not grass roots, not particularly concerned with anything other than social conservative legislation and the defeat of President Obama. A Rovian trick and successor to the failed effort to create a generation of Republican rule through the W Administration. I’ll certainly concede that a large number of T-Partee folks did not understand the covert organization and nefarious motives. They were exploited. To the extent their own motivation, for a time, was pure and wholesome, even if wrong-headed, many people supported them. I think all Stewart is saying is that the same people who gave uncritical, unqualified support to the T-Partee in its naive and innocent stage ought not be criticizing a new movement that, at the moment, seems pure. Is that so illogical? No.

  • Cecelia

    They’ve joined moveon.org, you vicious bastard.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Meradeia/100001001910622 Bill Meradeia

    The tea belonged to the British East India Company, you moron.

  • unmutual

    You must not have seen any of the many interviews with the Occupy Wallstreet protesters. There isn’t an intellectual in the bunch.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I knew if you started hanging with Sarah N. Italy, you’d get her foul and filthy mouth, Whopper.

    To my knowledge, Moveon.org is not illegal. Do you have information to the contrary. If so, please share it.

    My concern is not Moveon.org, which I don’t find particularly objectionable although it is a bit strident and too single issue oriented. It is that the protesters might be pulled into the establishment. Moveon.org is an establishment institution. If so, the movement loses its moral force and clarity.

    Don’t be so threatened by these people. They are offering an important point of view. I’m surprised you are so threatened by free expression, Whopper. Well, maybe not.

  • Cecelia

    Oh, sure.  That’s why they almost caused a close down of govt over the debt ceiling.

    And what Stewart says should go both ways.

    When you’ve criticized the Tea Partry as being composed of extremists, don’t use you tv show to bemoan the fact that another group isn’t being treated as WELL.

    I expect that YOU will do that.  That YOU will have no shame in lecturing people about not jumping to conclusions when you’ve insulted the Tea Party and everyone else who doesn’t see things your way (including calling them traitors) in the most vicious way imaginable, for years.

    There’s hope for Stewart though.  He’s not you.

  • Texan

    Douchnozzle, could you be any more contradicktive?

  • Cecelia

    I’m not threatened at all.  I’m glad they’ve so quickly aligned themselves with an organization that exists to fund Democratic candidates. 

    I’m glad that people like me, who had hoped they really were a nonaligned group can now get on with it.

    Saves time.

    (and you REALLY are a heartsinkingly  vicious vicious man)

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    There are protests in Washington, as there are here in Austin and in many other cities across America. The ones here in Austin are actually quite stimulating intellectually, and they are raising important issues. But, the ones in New York are as well. Click on the link for the Michigan high school student above. A really affirming, feel good story about America’s promise.

    The reason the protests are New York centric is because New York is the seat of the stock exchange from which most of the financial debacle from the W Recession and President Obama’s tentative recovery has arisen. The issues are financial. The US does not have a unified seat of power as do the UK and France in which political, economic and cultural power are all vested in London and Paris, respectively. We are more like Germany. Political power is in Berlin and Washington. Economic power is in Frankfurt and New York. Cultural vitality is in Hamburg and Munich and in New York and Los Angeles. It would be pretty silly to protest stock market and corporatist abuses in Provo, Topeka or Washington.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly
  • Cecelia

    Right.  They’re protesting congress NOT the WH ( you know.. the corporate sell-out WH that you just mentioned)

  • http://twitter.com/FBAmerProgress David Soll

    So, since the Boston Tea Party happened before America was America, does that mean, in your limited intellect that all things that occurred that lead to America becoming America are not in fact a part of American history?

    But hey, since you have such esteem for anyone left of Reagan, why not just go back to Cluster Fox and keep yourself busy.

    Also, based on your last sentence you obviously think there is a large liberal media somewhere on TV or radio. As for a conservative screwing up historical references… Do you want to go there?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “There is not a single Republican who is more tied to Wall Street than President Obama (more’s the pity), and you say the protesters are embraced by the Democrats. How bone-headed and nutty is that?”
    I didn’t say the OWS’ers were intelligent….

    Dems are supporting the OWS’ers. The OWS’ers are Dems/Liberals. Most still support Obama, even though, as you said, he is more tied to WS than anyone. Like I said, I never said they were intelligent. 

    Dems supporting OWSers:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-how-are-the-occupy-wall-street-protesters-not-like-the-tea-party/#comment-328035136

  • http://twitter.com/grimcity Neal Boyd

    …thus hurting her feelings!

  • Texan

    Or Austin…

  • Exgoper

    “The Occupy Wall Street protesters want to destroy capitalism, promote socialism, and depend on the ever expanding government”

    If you wanted to show yourself to be amazingly ill-informed and completely out-of-touch with what’s going on, you’ve succeeded — spectacularly. What you’ve written could have come from Hannity, Coulter, Limbaugh or any of the other hysterics and propagandists whose DNA requires them to reflexively oppose any movement that challenges the status quo.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Yep. You’ve got nothing. As usual. Go grate so cheese.

  • Texan

    Nice rebuttal…

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Hey, everyone. That Googling monkey is back!

  • Anonymous

    No, they just carried signs about watering the tree of liberty with the blood of the duly-elected leader of the free world.  And spit on Congressmen.  And demanded that Obama keep his “government hands” off their Medicare.

  • koolmoedeee

    the Tea partiers don’t have jobs….most of them are retired….living off social security and riding around in their self powered electric wheel chairs provided for free by medicare

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    As is each and every man who has the temerity to hold an opinion not wholly aligned with yours.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    if you call proving you completely wrong, than yea, i guess i’ve “got nothing”…

    #rrkfailyetagain

  • Texan

    rinse, repeat

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    as usual, you are wrong again.

    and as usual, all you can do is make some idiotic comment about googling, or cheese. 

    #rrkfailsyetagain

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Well, Whopper, the fact is I gave the T-Partee its due until it became evident to all but the most rabid partisans and ideologues that the T-Partee was simply a Rovian-inspired, Koch Brothers-funded rightist PAC dedicated to elect Teapublicans dedicated to shoving social conservative laws down our throats. If I become convinced that the rather amorphous group of protesters we now have follow a similar institutional route, my opinion of them will likely change.

    Boy, these protesters really have you unhinged. You’re usually a tried and true respecter of our Constitution. Sad to witness the change.

  • Texan

    Oh, she’s got sumpin.’ ;)

  • http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon

    And the OWS kids all live in their basements..

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    would you like to rebut anything i wrote? i am just giving my opinion based on everything i have heard and seen from both groups. if you disagree, feel free to provide reasons.

  • Anonymous

    “Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital.  Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed had labor not existed.  Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”

    -Abraham Lincoln, Obama-loving, Hitler-anticipating, Freedom-hating Fascist Communist Marxist.  Or something like that.

  • Cecelia

    Oh, really.  Name one who I’ve called vicious before.

  • The Dweller Ysul

    My guess is that you were a loser long before Obama became president.

  • Cecelia

    So your response is merely to repeat your original claim and add an insult.

    My bemoaing the fact that OWS aligned with moveon.org does not make me against the Constitution. 

    But then you know that.  You’re just trying to smear me in the course of pretending to “converse”  You can’t help yourself.

    It’s what you do.

     

  • Kelly Murphy

    Let’s see how are the 2 groups different?  The Tea Party protesters are articulate, responsible, clean, respectful, patriotic, hard-working, and intelligent and most importantly, the voice of most Americans.  The Occupy Wall street groups are lazy, stupid, disrespectful, selfish, whiny, ignorant and is some respects, criminal.  

  • Cecelia

     By the way, you’re dismissed, Mark .

    Shove off.  

  • Anonymous

    And which group carries signs advocating the notion of watering the “tree of liberty” with the blood of our duly-elected president?

  • Anonymous

    Wow, thanks.  I never thought I’d encounter someone stupid enough to actually buy into Goldberg’s revisionism.

    In fact, the first people Hitler sent to the camps were liberal intellectuals, trade unionists and communists.

    Who in this country supported Hitler at the time?  Prescott Bush, W’s grandpappy and other wingnuts of the day, who like you, hated FDR.

    Who still reveres Hitler to this day?  The swastika wearing KKK and other extreme right wingers, that’s who.

    I’m not going to convince you and the other “superpatriot” (just like the German Nazis) revisionists, of course.  But I did want to correct the record.

    And PS:  Hitler did make some socialist noises before he actually attained power.  Nazis did not govern as socialists.  They were the same kind of corporate assholes as Henry Ford, who supported them from the start.

  • http://twitter.com/BadGenome Jeff Casey

    So because they’re dirty, unkempt hippies, that somehow precludes them from having totalitarian impulses? Oh, Jon, you silly, dumb bastard…

  • Anonymous

    They were/are.  But they have the big corporate bucks and Fox to propagandize for them.  OWS only has the people – like in 1776.

  • Anonymous

    You mean checks for all the money they paid into over the years. Money that the federal government owes back to them. Where do you think the federal government gets the money to cut the checks from?
    How exactly do they “launder money” with their tithes? How is that any different that me writing a 5000.00 check to our non-profit local youth theater and art studio? Am I laundering my money then? 

  • Anonymous

    They can afford to because they know they will get weeks of fawning media coverage before and after each of their astroturf, corporate-sponsored events.  It took weeks for OWS to force even minimal coverage from the MSM.

  • Anonymous

    That’s why all the signs saying, “Keep your Government hands off my Medicare,” right?

  • TbagsRstupid

    what do blacks have to do with it and where do you get your numbers?

  • Kelly Murphy

    There you go again.  Trying to broad-brush.  One person MAY have carried a stupid sign but you brand the entire group.  How many tea party members have been arrested versus the thugs in NY?

  • Texan

    Waaaaay out of context. Step away from the koolaid.

  • Anonymous

    Like you are qualified to judge that.  ROFLMFAO!

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Remember when Lionel use to tell Archie he wanted to be a “lectrical injuneer” because it made Archie laugh and he’d tip Lionel for delivering his dry cleaning? Enough said.

  • Anonymous

    Right.  Because what does capital v. labor have to do with a bunch of working-class Americans protesting the financial titans of Wall Street?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    “Played by the rules?”

    What rules? This has nothing to do with rules and everything do with them being entitled little bitches. They think because they went and got a degree, with complete disregard for how useful it may be, that they’re entitled to high-paying jobs. Now that they’re in the real world, somehow it’s “The Corporation’s” fault that they’re not paying them big salaries and showering them with jobs.

    The truth of the matter is that their degrees are worthless. Thousands of corporations in America are domestically hiring FOREIGN workers with the necessary skills since you can’t build a nuclear reactor or program a computer with a Russian History degree.

  • Anonymous

    Hahahaha.

    You – not me, YOU – paint thousands of Americans as uniformly “stupid, lazy, disrespectful, selfish, whiny [sic] and ignorant,” and I am painting with a broad brush for pointing out a sign that showed up at numerous Tea Party rallies?  Um, projection much?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Do you remember when Il Douchey was recounting being without electricity due to a storm on Long Island, and Gretchen told him he’d be microwaving dinner? Went right over Douchey’s head.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Do you remember when Il Douchey was recounting being without electricity due to a storm on Long Island, and Gretchen told him he’d be microwaving dinner? Went right over Douchey’s head.

  • FreeMike

    “Let me make this very clear: I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose.” –Mitt Romney, 2002

    You do realize that Hitler was only a politician in 1927 and did what all other politicians do, pander to whomever he addressing so he can get their vote.  Find a simialr quote post ’33 when he became chancellor.  In ’33, he closed and banned all trade unions, confiscated their money and put their leaders in jail.  Then he ordered the SS to kill Ernst Roehm, the leader of the Sturm Abteilung (Hitler’s private army of thugs that got him elected in the first place), and 400 of his men after they started talking about a Socialist revolution and about taking over the army.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Judging from your shrillness and prickliness, I must do it very well, indeed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZT7DUTY3EKGYIY3ROH5VJXCMUU Sasha

    TEA PARTY…hmmm a group of very very very unhappy ,unsatisfied ,unintelligent, no compassion constant complaining  racist people…whose agenda is to get a black president out of office …and I just  bet you are a member , lmao

  • Anonymous

    The baggers can’t help themselves. They’re ignorant, angry, and being mislead by their corporate sponsors. Other than that, they like to whine.

  • Anonymous

    Making shit up must be your specialty. You are not very good at it, though.

  • Kelly Murphy

    I can characterize those thugs as I have because of the footage shown on TV where they are unwashed, shouting, claiming they would not accept a job, using racial slurs, and being arrested and begging for other peoples money.  You gave an example of one sign.

  • Anonymous

    The fact that the cops have illegally closed both ends of a street and arrested everyone on the street, penned up pedestrians, and made extensive efforts to deny citizens their constitutional right of protest is no evidence of criminality on the part of anyone but the cops – as demonstrated by the fact that arrested protesters and bystanders are typically released without charges.

    This may be an alien concept to you wingnuts, but we all have constitutional rights.

  • Anonymous

    You wingnuts keep alleging that the protesters are “dirty.”  What a shame.  I’m sure that Washington’s troops at Valley Forge were a bit ripe by springtime as well.  But people are doing their best to keep themselves and the area they are occupying as clean as possible.

    I’d love to see you walk up to a group of those union guys and call them “hippies.”  Be sure to let us know if you decide to do that and when.  I wanna be there with a camera.

  • Anonymous

    Tea Party People know how to walk on a bridge right so they don’t get arrested.

  • Anonymous

    Income for the top 5 or 10% has soared while wages for the bottom 80% have actually declined.  That has nothing to do with Russian History – except if you are comparing the conditions that preceded the revolution.

    And we can do without more catastrophically unsafe nuclear reactors.

  • Anonymous

    Use a line from a show 34 years ago to make a point in 2011. You, Ollie and those 5 sheep don’t live too far in the past.

  • Anonymous

    When you can’t have a conversation with those that differ in their thoughts, just throw out the old race card.
    It’s the crabby old white liberal M.O.
    Use to work back in the days when ‘All In The Family’ was in first run but sadly for these pinheads it’s 2011.

  • Anonymous

    You know I suddenly like Ann Coulter, so why don’t you and Billy, Ollie, Ollie King, drop by my house and try it.
    The starving artists in Queens living in the Coffin Factory could use the work and I’m all for capitalism.

  • Anonymous

    You mean the Hitler picture of Bush? or do you have selective memory?

  • Anonymous

    And moveon.org now has skin in the game.

  • Steven B Merkel

    It stands for Taxed Enough Already, just coincidence the initials match, as does the sentiment.

  • Texan

    Blocking traffic and disrupting businesses aren’t included.

  • Anonymous

    1- …Fact is the tea party was 97% employed or retired with paying taxes right now. 

    Those Tea Party people worked hard and maybe older but raised families tried to live well in America contributed through taxes and survived by avoiding handouts. They pay home Mortgages and car payments while saving for their children’s college funds. They understand hard times and flipping burgers when they started out young in life. They didnt expect a $100k when they came out of college they knew  to take what they can and work hard and the American dream will come true!

    The average wall street 19 year old background is a spoiled brat who never had to really work hard for anything other then beating their friends on Xbox , all of a sudden finds out that its tough times for them and they dont know how to act. So they blame others…. Blame is a huge problem in the administration, race relations and now with the young wall protesters!

    They never have understood competition or even dodge ball or Tag in schools now because our system has given them a nanny state of mind. Its a wakeup call and the older generation understands it.

  • Guest

    To elect Herman Cain….astute point idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Soros has nothing to do with this? Who was at the rally yesterday? moveon.org.

    MAN you’re a idiot. And an ignorant one too! FROM WINKKI!!!

    Soros gave $2.5 million to MoveOn.org,

  • Anonymous

    The Tea Party and the OWS, have some but little in common, an anger and discontent towards the ruling elite for their lack of empathy and understanding of the real values of the American people and nation (and the whole planet). But the similarities for the must part end there, for the understanding of the reasons behind the inequalities of today’s society is diametrical, the OWS movement is primarily made of the young generation, a generation like never seen before (Arab Spring), it comes prepared with an awareness of today’s problems and is very well educated and globally aware, for those of you who seem not to get this point only shows that your awareness is based in the old structures and your reaction only points to the obvious end of the old systems that have failed the global society.
    As Jeffrey Sachs noted; ” The hope is that the people know” and as another public intellectual said; “this is just the tip of the iceberg”
    Watch and see the new world unfold, but do not wait too long or you might be swept away by the new wave of justice and freedom coming our way !

    “The
    will and voice of the people will become the guiding light of all
    countries and nations.”

    – Maitreya,
    the World Teacher

     

  • Moosenuts99

    Footage shown on Fox…

    You do realize that the “one sign” is actually A FLAG that is the Tea Party’s de facto symbol. It is the same flag that pops up as avatars for commentors ON THIS VERY SITE

    To conclude that it is just one person is disingenuous at best,’EXTREMELY STUPID at worst

  • Moosenuts99

    Yup,’Stewart perfectly exposed
    HANNITYS DOUBLE STANDARD

    HILARIOUS!!!

  • Rio

    They have to be racist, all those white faces.  Even the tea party had more minorities than the OWS gang of misfits, hippies and weirdos. From photos I’ve seen, guess what?  some of those protesters HAVE to be at least 70, some are fat, and the tea partiers did look to the future, their intention is to get debt and spending under control, that in turn provides for a stable future, unlike what we have now. 

  • Moosenuts99

    You idiots DO REALIZE that BAGGERS are participating in OWS too, right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    Wages for everyone have increased year after year for decades. Free market capitalism has also made quality of live and standard of living higher than it’s even been and at lower costs.

    I love how the Russian History remark flew right over your head. Liberal arts degrees are consistently the least-paying degrees after college and result in the highest unemployment among the higher educated.

    And you can count the number of people who have died from nuclear power accidents in America on one hand. More people have probably died from heavy, expensive, inefficient solar panels collapsing on them.

  • Rio

    Your kids should damn well appreciate the fact those ill mannered tea partiests drew attention to the exhorbitant spending that was growing the national debt which in turn your kids will assume.

    Never saw the monkey picture, that’s uncalled for if it exists, the Obama/Hitler poster was made up by the Larouche group and there also was infiltrators caught at events with undesirable posters and behavior.  They were eventually exposed after the movement caught on to what was being done.  Rather sensitive, after watching that same activity and much, much worse for eight years prior to Obama one would think you would have finally grown a pair.

  • Michelle

    Email: ‘Time to kill the wealthy’

    Several influential New York state lawmakers have received
    threatening mails saying it is “time to kill the wealthy” if they don’t
    renew the state’s tax surcharge on millionaires, according to reports.

    “It’s time to tax the millionaires!” reads the email, according to WTEN
    in Albany. “If you don’t, I’m going to pay a visit with my carbine to
    one of those tech companies you are so proud of and shoot every spoiled
    Ivy League [expletive] I can find.”
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s...

  • Anonymous

    Acronyms need to say something real like: Lawfully Impressive Behavioral Enactment Response Adjudicating Legion(LIBERAL) or Legitimate Interpretative Best Enacted Response Adjudicating Legion(LIBERAL) or Learned  Intelligent Budget Energized Reactionary Adjudicating Liaison(LIBERAL)1 Catch my drift?

  • Rio

    He did not call Rick Perry out, he just said the term was dispicable, didn’t voice an opinion whatsoever about Perry.

  • Ochawkeye
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FSPIVAFYI672OH5NOKVRTEZA4U MadCharles

    Simple question simple answer Jon. theirs only 500 protesters &  tea party people pick up after themselves…

  • Anonymous

    Where in the constitution is that, dumbass?

    I’m ashamed I have to share Texas with idiots like you.

    PS:  The purpose of the Boston Tea Party was to disrupt hell out of the business of the East India Tea Company – biggest business in the world at the time.  They committed felonies to do that.

    The OWS folks have been orderly, staying on the sidewalks except when they were herded onto the Brooklyn Bridge by the copsand busted en masse.

    And last, the Wall Streeters businesses need to be disrupted – by the arrest of all the criminal conspirators in the most massive fraud/theft in history and for the suborning of our government by bribery,

  • Rio

    She’s got a bit more than a college degree behind her, quite a bit more.

    She graduated cum laude from Cornell got her J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School where she was also editor of the Michigan Law Review.

    Clerked for Pasco Bowman ll at the U.S. Court of Appeals, 8th Circuit.  She went on to become a corporate lawyer at Cahill, Gordon and Reindel before she made a fortune as an author and now can do whatever she wants.

    I hope you employ a secretary or at least a proof reader.

  • Steven B

    Maitreya, Maitreya, Maitreya:The Tea Party and the OWS, have some but little in common, an anger and discontent towards the ruling elite 
    (Maitreya, the TEA Party sees Government as the elite where OWS sees capitalism and corporations as the elite, at least that’s what OWS looks like from here. They are remarkably nebulous in their philosophy(s)) 
    for their lack of empathy and understanding of the real values of the American people and nation (and the whole planet). 
    (Maitreya, elites as defined above have no compassion, neither government or business have feelings. The Tea Party could care less about the whole planet, they are nationalists, America Firsters and although OWS espouses the “global village” sensitivity its the lack of their own personal opportunity that seems to be driving them into the streets, they cloak their own personal dissatisfaction in airs of humanitarianism and altruism. As an aside I defy you to define “Real American values in any way other than looking to the Constitution. It is the sole document that lists what it means to both be a citizen as well as a listing of what the values of the United States are. In this I believe you are now quoting TEA Party propaganda) But the similarities for the must part end there, for the understanding of the reasons behind the inequalities of today’s society is diametrical, the OWS movement is primarily made of the young generation, (Maitreya, outside of the urban centers and “progressive educational institutions” in the USA a great number of young people are part of the TEA party movement. Most often in places that teach core American history, with its warts and all) a generation like never seen before (Arab Spring), it comes prepared with an awareness of today’s problems and is very well educated and globally aware, (Maitreya, how elitist! By conferring the mantle of “educated” and “globally aware” on OWS you denigrate the TEA Partyers by omission. I challenge you to name a single person in OWS and any particular “education” or “awareness”  they have access to. Simply because you agree with them does not make them particularly ”enlightened”.for those of you who seem not to get this point only shows that your awareness is based in the old structures (Maitreya, “Old Structures” are what brought about the conditions around you, like a foundation of a building they support and nurture the freedoms both the TEA Party and OWS exploit to get their messages out. Like old foundations these structures may need bracing or repair, but one does not replace granite with sand neither can you expect any structure to stand if the foundations are removed entirely, on the contrary, the structures would collapse on themselves, I doubt you are encouraging anarchy, or perhaps you are?)and your reaction only points to the obvious end of the old systems that have failed the global society. (Maitreya, without the “Old Structures” you would not even perceive of the, so called, “Global Society” For all its ills those structures empower and liberate individuals as never before, likewise they empower the elites, both monetary and philosophical elites like never before. Each able to exploit, espouse and practice their own form of oppression both capitalistic and intellectual oppression. I’m not sure what you mean by “failing Global Society, I expect its a resentment that the world still remains an unfair place. Sadly, it does and will remain so as long as fallible humans populate it.)As Jeffrey Sachs noted; ” The hope is that the people know” (Know what?) and as another public intellectual said; “this is just the tip of the iceberg” (and like an Iceberg the most damaging component it that which lies hidden beneath what can be seen)Watch and see the new world unfold, but do not wait too long or you might be swept away by the new wave of justice and freedom coming our way ! (Maitreya, you are more likely to be given true freedom under a strict adherence to the Constitution of the United States than you are by submitting yourself to the vagaries of the “Global Society, or the disjointed musings of disenchanted, counterproductive pseudo intellectuals like OWS).
    Maitreya, I could go on, but I grow tired of deconstructing your irrationalism, as to getting swept away, I already know how to surf.

  • Rio

    Would that be when she is on Bill Maher’s show?

  • Pit Boss

    Maybe showers and a point. But most of them are living off of Social Security. Also, please don not speak that woman’s name. Whenever I hear or see it I’m reminded that the Crypt Keeper is a live and well and has an enormous Adam’s Apple.

  • Rio

    Wow! Unicon, you really tripped a lever or flipped a switch here today.  lol, just got to laugh at em.

  • Steven B Merkel

    Lilly, I defy you to prove that allegation. It sounds good, I grant you, but it sounds to me like you’ve been sucking on the teat of propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    Guess you haven’t heard of Fukishima.  I don’t have time to educate you, but plumes of radiation, carried by the jet stream across the pacific are coming here since it happened, as we speak, and for a long time into the future.  Cancer deaths will increase worldwide – as they did after Chernobyl.  GE built the Fukishima plant, BTW, from a US design.  We have a couple of dozen essentially just like it right here.

    No, my response flew right over yours.  You have no idea what degrees the OWS peeps have – but a random sample is all it takes to demonstrate that they are one helluva lot smarter than Teabaggers.

    And your comment about wages is just a lie.  Prove it.

  • Moosenuts99

    You missed the point,
    Which is:

    If the media is describing these people as unorganized idiots, how can they simultaneously be ultra-organized nazis?

    Clearly you didn’t watch or comprehend the segment. TYPICAL CON

  • Anonymous

    He makes ‘em up.

  • Gabbicat123

    what in the hell is wrong with you !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are a racist !!!!!!! I have news for you the bi-racial community is growing rapidly so get used to it. Are statements like that and all the bs on all the news media shows, do they reflect us as a people of the greatest country in the world? we are still America land of the free and brave not of the misinformed assholes. People stop all this we need to stand together we all have the same goal freedom, fairness, opportunity, safety nets during the bad times, endless dreams that hard work can make reality. The corporations don’t own us, they use our roads, our 911 services, our post office, they need to pay for these services, and our hard earned money every time we make a purchase, we own them and we can make or break them.

  • Rio

    It’s like what happened in Egypt, the youth through social web pages organized and eventually brought Mubarak down.  Toward the end, the Muslim Brotherhood joined and totally took over the movement.  The unions and other groups are now moving in on OWS and it will eventually morph into whatever these monied groups want it to be.

  • Anonymous

    Poor people (more of whom are white than any other ethnic group) pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes than the rich.

     You wingnuts conveniently exclude state and city taxes (which were forced up when Nixon “block-granted” funds to states and localities and then substantially cut the grants), fees (my inspection sticker now costs about 50 bucks – before Nixon, it was $2).  Sales taxes and gasoline taxes are the most regressive – not to mention the SS tax, which is capped, so the rich only pay tax on their first 110k of income.  Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and the Koch Brothers pay less than 1/100th of a percent – while the poor and middle class pay 12%.  And the sales taxes they pay are minimal as a percentage of disposable income.

    Whereas I pay 8.25% on everything I buy.

  • http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon

    LOL !!!

    Laugh… or get a restraining order !1!!

  • Anonymous

    Glenn Beck writes a modern, bastardized version of Thomas Paine’s Common Sense while telling America that the current President is the Anti Christ and about to destroy life on Earth. Rush Limbaugh does the same thing while posting images of a rifle target with Obama’s Hope and Change logo in the “dead” center. The s__t storm that is about to happen, was ushered in by Beck, Limbaugh, and the Ayn Rand loving GOP. We’re doomed, thanks to the greed, gluttony, and sloth, of Conservatism’s anti Christ-like ideology. Face the truth Michelle.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.kennedy3 Bruce Kennedy

    Obviously you’re a lawyer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.kennedy3 Bruce Kennedy

    Steven B Merkelsays…

    “It stands for Taxed Enough Already, just coincidence the initials match, as does the sentiment.”

    Must you continually point out how ignorant the T.E.A. Party actually is. Truly Euphemistic A**holes.     

  • Steven B Merkel

    Good Bruce, nice talk. 
    1)  This was my first posting so continually doesn’t apply.2)  Detailing the etymology of any given nomenclature is hardly an indication of the relative knowledge of the group in question.
    3) To describe as euphemistic their choice of appellation is both incorrect and an indication of your own perspective. The name could hardly be more descriptive.
    4) You are obviously a prick, with a small p.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    FukUshima is in Japan, shit-for-brain, not America. And not a single person died from radiation exposure during the Daiichi meltdown. Shows how much you know, dumbass.

    And the “Teabaggers” are on average much more educated and wealthier than the average American, as multiple polls have shown. The entitled brats down on Wall Street have useless degrees and aren’t paid anything… because they have useless degrees and no one will hire them.

    And again proving that you don’t know jack shit, with the exception of 2009, WAGES HAVE INCREASED EVERY SINGLE YEAR SINCE 1951: http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

    It must really suck for you when reality is never on your side.

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    The first to die at a Tea Party event was a black man. The patron saint of the Tea Party could be Crispus Attucks, a freed slave.

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    Actually the Tea Party was organized to oppose the bailout of the same banks these KIDS ARE PROTESTING ON WALL STREET!!! 

    What is at the heart of your need to invalidate the Tea Party’s message? Why must you say it is something other than what they say it is, and then favor the protesters who (2.5 years later) protest the same institutions? Were you just not fully awake in 2009?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIUTYRY4RUDL2KNY63S3DF5HWE Ironhenge

    Wow you are smart!!! I had no idea that acronyms say anything at all. Thank you for enlightening me!

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    Let’s face it. Liberals are shit-scared of the reality they are looking at and helped create and now they are resorting to just trying to shout down the facts. Look how they scream and shout that the Tea Party is racist at it’s core to try to invalidate the Tea Party’s view of fiscal responsibility. It’s like dealing with a rabid animal who will do anything to stop you from telling them the truth. 

  • Jason

    wow, another hate filled liberal idiot playing the race card. shocking.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    As I see it from here;
    OWS sees unregulated capitalism, corporations and present plutocracy as the elite.
    I do not think they are nebulous in their philosophy: They know (as Jeffrey Sachs noted)  there is a lack of justice in the system that is ruled by greed, thus Wall Street becomes the focus point of unrest.
    Agree, the Constitution has to represent the values of an enlightened society.
    I do not know, nor do I worry if the Tea Party is educated and aware, I know this movement is and it represents, to their understanding, such ideals, as shared in the past days by 3 (challenge accepted) individuals that spoke at the event: Professors Chomsky,Stiglitz and West, and those that were fortunate enough to listen to them, well, had a brief access to their awareness.
    and last:
    Humanyty and Society (WE) are the foundations; the structures, the economical, political and social ideas of today, they will, nah, they have crumbled down in order to give room for the new.

    “Allow
    Me to show you the way ― forward, into a simpler life where no man
    lacks; where no two days are alike; where the joy of Brotherhood
    manifests through all men.”  

    ~  Maitreya

  • Jason

    Show me one interview with one of these deranged hippy losers that you can pass off as “intellectual”.

    I’m guessing you think Charlie Manson is an intellectual as well.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for proving my point, dumbass.

    The data in your link just goes to 2009 – the year wages started going down.  Nothing for 2010 or 11.

    I guess you never heard of the jet stream, ignoramus.  Much of the radiation from Fukishima is coming over here.  Just on the off-chance you would like to educate yourself about it, here is a link: http://enenews.com/ 

    The fourth article on that page is about the third Fukishima worker to die – so far.  Check out “radiation and maps” to see for yourself how much of the radiation has made it over here – so far.  There was a 35% increase in stillbirths on the west coast and as far away as Philadelphia right after the accident, strontium 90 in milk is skyrocketing and this disaster is ongoing and still uncontrolled!  The “China syndrome” is a real possibility for this disaster, indications are that the fuel has melted through the containment and is sinking into the ground.  When it hits the water table, we’re screwed.

    On second thought, please ignore that link – but I hope my fellow progressives check it out.  And remember that radiation is a slow-acting poison.  Unless you get an extreme dose – like those three workers – it can take from 0 to 20 years to get cancer – but kids are especially sensitive.

  • MBS

    How Are The Occupy Wall Street Protesters Not Like The Tea Party?  The Occupy Wall Street Protesters want to take the money that other people earn, while the Tea Party protesters just wanted to keep more of the money they earned themselves. That would be the main difference.

  • Anonymous

    If they are intelligent, why don’t any of them seem to have a clue about why the economy melted down in 2008, or the role of the global economy and corporations having essentially bought out their government on their qualify of life?  

    And if they are the voice of most Americans, why do recent polls list 20% of Americans approving of the Tea Party, which 40% expressed disapproval?

  • Anonymous

    You can’t really be serious.  That sign was everywhere.  

  • Anonymous

    Hey. what does ‘Race Card’ mean anyway.  Conservatives seem to be the only ones that know what  ‘race card’ means and are the only ones that can say when the ‘race card’ has been played.  Do liberals ever say to a conservative ‘Sorry sir, you have played the ‘race card’ against me’.   No.  Only a conservative can say to a liberal ‘Sir you have played the ‘race card’ unfairly this time.’

    Playing the ‘race card’ seems to happen only when a liberal tells a conservative  something like ‘you know what? The Republican Party canidate Barry Goldwater ran against Civil Rights back in 1964 and he was racist.  And Jerry Falwell was a segregationinst and was a racist Republican.  And Ron Paul was a segragationist racist Republican.  And Ron Perry is an insensitive racist.  Therefore the Republican party is the party of racists.

    So calling out a conservative for being a racist is called playing the  ‘race card’.?

  • http://www.facebook.com/MadamDeb Deb Moschkin

    Because Fox News told them they should think that the two types of demonstrations are soooooo very different.

  • Anonymous

    Rio,  My kids would probably appreciate it more if those ill manners tea partiers had a little bit more perspective and intelligence in approaching a mammoth problem like the global economy and how it is damaging the middle class+ working class,  and benefiting only the ultra wealthy.   If the Tea Party understood the massive impact of 25 years of rampant de-regulation, especially of the financial sector, as well as the virtual buyout of all phases of Government by corporations maybe they would have a little more respect and appreciation for them.    The fact that Bush turned the surplus (that could and should have been used to pay down the debt) into a deficit ballooning  payout to the ultra rich via the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts and the 2nd lowest top marginal tax rate in 85 years should rile the Tea Party, but instead they have been trained to applaud it like Chickens cheering for Colonel Sanders.

    As it is, the Tea Party mob has zero understanding of why the economy melted in 2008 (Fox and Rush told them it was because the democrats forced bankers against their will to write too many loans to poor people…and they believe it) and no understanding of the role that corporate American played (through the injection of millions via Freedom Works, Americans for prosperity and other fronts) in the birth and growth of the tea party. 

    I also think my kids might have a touch more respect for the supposed fiscal concern of the Tea Party if a single one of them had been on record as opposing this spending when it was being done by a republican president…

  • Anonymous

    what is the ‘race card’?  Are conservatives the only ones that know when the ‘race card’ has been played.  Can conservatives ever play the ‘race card’  why is it that liberals never get to say sorry sir you have played the race card against me unfairly this time.  Does it have to do with the republican party being full of racists and not owing up to the fact.

  • Anonymous

    Puck, perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the entire conversation.  The signs you mention were very much in evidence 2003- 2008, but that has nothing to do with what I’m responding to.  The comparison is OWS vs Tea Party.   Try to keep an eye on context here, Fiona.

  • Tim Tebow

    “Fact:…the annointed one said lies to get people believing things were going to change. It did for the worse then all had enough…etc etc”

    YIKES!

  • Tim Tebow

    Tea Party: Sarah Palin.

    Any questions?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    UnEasyOne, do you enjoying digging yourself into deeper holes? Again, it’s not my fault you embarrass yourself clinging to a delusional world while I reside in reality.

    I was right about wages, get over it. It’s not my fault you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. How about you get a clue next time?

    Yeah, people have died at Daiichi. 3 people total: none of them from radiation poisoning. Sorry, shit-for-brains Progressive, but once again reality is on my side. Not a single person has died from radiation poisoning at Daiichi.

    Do you ever get tired of being a mindless partisan hack who is ALWAYS wrong? You’re batting 0.000, you should think about hanging up the cleats unless you actually like embarrassing yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting framing of the OWS – Granted there are a number of issues being raised, but if you notice it’s more about Wall Street having behaved with insane recklessness during the past 10+ years, and turned from being an efficient conduit of capital to industry and innovators into a strictly self serving casing.  Where once Wall Street invested in the growth of the whole economy, now its about creating toxic asset backed securities, derivatives, credit swaps and other devices allowing them to create staggering bets using money from commercial banks and insurance companies.  If these bets paid off, they made millions or billions. When it all blew up, they were made whole by the tax payer.  

    I’d say this was central grudge  #1 among the many complaints of OWS crowd from what I see, and grudge #2 is that both the GOP and the Democrats seem to hold the well being and interests of the ultra wealthy far above the interests of the middle class and working class.  The result has been that the standard of living and real wages for the middle class and working class are stagnated at best.   (BTW, before you point me toward the chart you cited on wages to UnEasyOne is not corrected for inflation, so it is worthless.)

    But if you want to frame this as a protest over people being unhappy that they studied English,Art History, or even the overthrow of the Czars, be my guest.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm – An avatar of a singer/songwriter who hasn’t had a hit since 1998.  Almost seems like someone wishes it was 13 years ago, family-man Newt was raging at Clinton’s infidelity and a young George Bush was just learning the names of the continents from Karl Rove.    Good times, huh?

  • Anonymous

    Tony leftovers,

    Multiple polls have shown that the “tea baggers”are most likely to be on a government check.
    VA pention, SSI, Medicare, rolling around the anti government protest on their publicily funded scooters. Whining about how Obama has raised their taxes and he is coming for thier guns. (both not true).

    How many sq miles have been evacuated around Fukushima because it will be unsafe to live in for the next 30 years? What if a nuclear plant out side of sandiego or NYC melted down?

  • Anonymous

    No i am not Happy with Obama, I just wonder why the baggers and republicans hate Obama so much, he is not a socialist by any stretch of the imagination. What would inspire John birch society, oh sorry, Tea partiers to bring their guns to political rallies? Could it be the color of his skin?

  • Anonymous

    Tea Party wants the American dream to succeed?

    Then why do they carry water for corporations and people who look for quick profits, squeeze productivity (more work for less money) from workers, and screw their customers if it helps the stock price?

    Is that your version of “The American Dream”?

  • Anonymous

    Of course, and that just balances the mean spirited and controversial things Bill says. That’s how they both get paid, {except Bill is funnier IMO}

  • Moosenuts99

    What fiscal related bills have the BAGGERS introduced? Because anti-sharia law, anti abortion bills don’t deal with fiscal matters

  • Moosenuts99

    I have some “kill BLACKIE” emails from your beloved BAGGER party if you want to paint with that large a brush

  • Smart

    lol misleading is watered down news, must be left wing

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1497076194 Travis Pierson

    How are the groups not alike? One of the protests has resulted in dozens of arrests in a few weeks and is leaving tons of garbage on the ground. The other has not resulted in any arrests in 2.5 years and cleans up after themselves. In short, one is a group of feckless juveniles and the other is a group of responsible adults. If you don’t know which is which, you’ll have to figure it out for yourselves. 

  • Roger_Fails

    The tea partiers just don’t want to pay for the government that delivers their social security, medicare, roads, hospitals, police, fire, military, safe skies and drinkable water. Why should we listen to them about anything?

  • Roger_Fails

    Michelle can’t think two paces ahead.

  • Roger_Fails
  • Moosenuts99

    You might want to google Tea Party arrests. Much higher than three.

    And I didnt see the WEAPONRY flaunted at these non-violent protests like we did at the Tea Parties

  • Moosenuts99

    And used as a lot of commentors’ avatars on THIS VERY SITE!

  • Moosenuts99

    Your “reasoning” that “at least the Tea Party people had jobs!” perfectly exposes how little you understand OWS and why it exists.

    “THose stupid protestors don’t have any jobs!!”

    Uhhh, EXACTLY

  • Moosenuts99

    Hmmmm, if they were carrying witch doctor bone through the nose pictures Of Obama like the BAGGERS were; then yes.

    Since there’s no such signs: no they wouldn’t.

  • Anonymous

    Lawyer or not…. it’s a true statement

  • Anonymous

    But…. it seems you can’t think, most of the tea party served in War’s before you were conceived so you can say stupid things.

  • Anonymous

    When I tried to post a reply to Tony Baloney a screen came up and said that my comment had to be moderated.  Considering that my response was much milder than his – since the facts are on my side – that was a bit of a surprise.  If they leave his BS up there without posting mine, I’ll be outta here for good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    Hanoisteve, “Multiple polls have shown that the “tea baggers”are most likely to be on a government check.
    VA pention, SSI, Medicare, rolling around the anti government protest on their publicily funded scooters.”

    No, they haven’t.

    Instead, places like that far right-wing rag the New York f*cking times found them to be wealthy and well educated: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html

    Yet again, your delusion is thwarted by the reality of the real world. This has got to be getting old for you guys.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out!

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    I guarantee none of the people “occupying” Wall Street know a damn thing about derivatives, securities, subprime mortgages, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, or anything else.

    They do, however, know how to mindlessly support Obama, Socialism, and sloth. They must also support all of Obama’s Wall Street and hedge fund donor money, of which he received much more than any other candidate.

    And you only don’t like my GOVERNMENT chart that shows wages consistently going up every single year because it’s the truth and it goes against your agenda. You know, if you actually decided to live in the real world like I do for a change, this stuff would actually make sense to you and people would look at your funny all the time.

  • Tvkitty

    Have you EVER read a conservative Facebook page? I’ve never seen such a collection of invective, hate and lunacy in my life. No facts, no intelligent conversation, just vile spewing. Ugly.

  • Tvkitty

    So now “polite and lawful” includes posters of Obama as the Joker and a witch doctor. Yeah. Polite and lawful. Right.

  • Person

    A person can travel a road for many different reasons, toward many different ends. The same 3 roads I use to travel to Dunkin Donuts in the morning and back to my house, are the same 3 roads the schoolbus uses to travel that stretch of neighborhood from the last bus stop to the school. They’re also the same 3 roads my neighbor travels to visit his estranged wife (they share custody of the child), and they’re also the same 3 roads canvassed by our local politicians of various party (or non party) persuasions.

    The road’s always the same. The people traveling it are not.

    There are some “people” who would sequester that road, and say “you can’t travel here.” They have their reasons, and to list even a few would be undermining my point. You may have noticed I put quotes around “people” – this is because corporations, though entities under the eyes of the law, are not actual, literal, people.

    I might “own” Starbucks, for example. But I do not “own” my hypothetical wife. This is because, We the People do not “own” other People.

    But now, Starbucks has more rights than We the People do. If I declare bankruptcy, my possessions are forfeit. The bank/creditors/etc. can reclaim virtually anything and everything – and they often do. When a corporation claims bankruptcy, they are PROTECTED from this. Even REWARDED for it (ie, Donald Trump’s business). They get bailed out. We the People do not.

    A person can travel a road for many different reasons, toward many different ends. The same 3 roads I use to protest the mistreatment of We the People, are the same 3 roads corporations use to protest me. They’re also the same 3 roads my neighbor travels in the back of a police car, on his way to debtor’s prison, and they’re also the same 3 roads canvassed by our local politicians of various party (or non party) persuasions.

    Isn’t it about time We the People started walking this road TOGETHER, rather than apart? The road’s not going to change. But We the People… We Can.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, there are plenty of people who understand derivatives, GSEs and a great deal about finance in that crowd.  I seen them, and heard them interviewed.  I doubt those individuals made it onto FoxNews, so no, you have not likely seen them.   That said, sure, there are plenty of idiots in that crowd too, just like the Tea Party. 

    However, I wouldn’t count on Obama getting the lions share of Wall Street money this time. It will go to both Candidates, but if it’s Romney, a former partner in Bain, he will get the lions share, especially if the economy is still down and it looks like he could win.  

    But you seem to be going to two directions at once: Are you saying that Obama is a socialist, or a total sellout to Wall Street and unregulated capitalism?  I would actually agree with you on the latter.  The only time he has acted decisively has been to make sure Wall Street got its way, was not investigated, got the extension of the Tax Cuts it wanted, and kept ticking along.   Hardly the acts of a socialist.

    And you can say whatever you want about the GOVERNMENT chart. I didn’t say it was wrong.  It’s not.  But you are using a chart that is only showing SSI averages year over year.  If that chart was created to compare real wage growth, the figures would have to be adjusted to factor in inflation.  Because otherwise, you’re trying to compare 1951 dollars with 2009 dollars.   I hope that even you can follow that.

  • Anonymous

    Profits has become like drugs, Billionaires just can’t seem to
    get enough. They are sick and getting sicker.
    When powerful numbers of mentally unstable people, intoxicated from any
    substance, whether it be money, drugs or alcohol, organize to belittle, berate,
    (as in lowering the credit rating), bring down Our Federal Government in any
    way, I find it Treasonous.
    If Wall Street and the Billionaires are only Financial Crooks that is bad news,
    if Wall Street and the Billionaires are a new group with a Master Plan to
    convert Our Democratic Government into a Communist type Industrial Government,
    (similar to what took place, when Paul Revere shouted the British are coming.),
    where some are Very Rich and the remainder are Very Poor as Communist China is,
    we will throw the bums out. The more they unveil their true feelings and
    ambitions, the quicker we will know. In my life time, I have never seen
    Industry badmouth and bully our Government so much, since many parts of our
    industry as a whole are responsible for the financial debacle we’ve
    experienced.
    Osama bin Laden, in his early days, said he will break America Financially. I
    do not condone this; I am only pointing out a threat from years ago.
    Billionaires through greed and ignoring the signs of which put us in the
    financial ditch, have come out of the ditch as the Richest people on earth, at
    the same time using their Bully Tactics on Politicians to get even richer,
    which is actually helping Osama bin Laden’s cause, even after his death. Osama
    bin Laden’s plan of breaking America by causing us to go to war, (which much of
    these expenses were never truthfully revealed and were hidden in ridicules
    categories, where much was stolen.), also think about the hyperinflation
    brought about by producing war machine products which are a total loss because
    of the war, not to mention the domestic economy which was triggered by the hype
    of the war machine. Maybe the war machine causes the real trickledown economics
    President Regan talked so much about. Profiteers in the domestic economy made
    Billions while the working class made barely enough to pay their living
    expenses and now there are under attack by the Billionaires demanding they
    compete with Foreign Slave Labor. The only way American workers can compete
    with China’s Labor is for America to form a Government like China. Is this why
    Industry want America to be a smaller Government? Is industry really Communist
    in disguise? Wow! That is scary but that is where all their actions are
    pointing. I believe I just discovered who the real Communist is in America.
    Maybe that is why they keep point and saying we liberals are heading for
    Socialism and Communism. Maybe that is why Real Business People hide behind
    others they pay big money too. That is the way it works in China. They are
    afraid the truth will come out. Well, in my mind the Truth is out. In China
    there are the very rich and the very poor. That is true Communism, and I think
    Industry is heading America in that direction. We may be too close to save
    ourselves. Industry hates Our Government; they say it is too big, they want to
    make Our Government Much Smaller, Maybe so they can take it over without much
    force. Everyone better vote for Obama or get ready to become a Communist
    Industrialist Country. Remember Industry is the one who likes the communist,
    not the Middle Class. They love them, they love doing business with them. They
    want the Middle Class at the same level as the Slave Labor of China. This is
    sad and should not be tolerated.

  • Rehustler

    One significant difference between the Wall Street protesters and the so-called “Tea-Partiers” is that the former knows how to spell and use correct grammar.

  • http://www.thefullertonian.com Mark Stouffer

    It’s all available on the internet. I wasn’t volunteering to be your legislative liaison. Can someone help Moosenuts find his way to the congressional record?

  • Anonymous

    Sadly not a lot has changed since then.

  • Anonymous

    Which one of Beck’s Blackboards did you get that one from?

  • Anonymous

    Actually, I Kinda though that was funny. Even though somebody else liked it for me,

  • Anonymous

    Bullshit!

  • Sally5342

    doesn’t mean it is not part of our history.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Caroline-M-Corman/1790826629 Caroline M. Corman

    Cain was a Federal Reserve Board member. He is a bankster and hustler. I just don’t see why whitey is so in love with this uncle Tom. 

  • Anonymous

    How are the OWS people not like the Tea Partiers?  Maybe, they are about 20 years old on average? Have no real idea why they are there?  Are violating all sorts of laws and getting arrested?  Are making the places they occupy into cesspools?  Having to pay people to be there?

  • Tedderman

     I attended a Tea-party function held at a restaurant in the area where I live and listened quietly as they raged about everything from liberals and unions to fluoridated water, not once did anyone mention fiscal conservatism in over two hours.

  • Mr Liberal

    Yes, they wan’t Obama out because he’s black. That’s why Cain is doing so poorly in the Republican Primary!

    Yes, lowering the federal deficit is a bad idea.  Just look at Greece, they’re doing great right now!

    The top 1%! Yeah screw them. They basically bankrupted everything. Just look at Steve Jobs. He totally screwed us all over!

    Occupy Wall Street, you go get em! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    I’ve seen plenty of interviews of the mostly stupid (or “willfully ignorant” if you want to be more diplomatic about it), lazy, self-satisfied people at the various OWS protests. The vast majority of them don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. My favorite was a YouTube video at the OWS protest in Washington. It was a pathetically small crowd that was supportive of Obama. My favorite part of the video was some dumb girl in a Harvard hoody complain about how education has been privatized. When she’d been challenged about her beliefs and learned the truth of Obama’s warmongering, she couldn’t defend herself and instead asked who the interviewer worked for. Typical stupid Progressive response; even though it was expect it’s still funny every time :-)

  • Mellyanne4

    I suppose it is well within the law to be overtly racist, have completely revisionist recollection of this great nation’s history, spew venomous lies about the current commander and chief and proposed legislation that they just “didn’t agree with”, so they made up death panels and other scare tactics. I suppose it is well within the law to hide your racism behind the American flag and scream patriot at the top of your lungs. I am not saying you are all racist, but you are all certainly mildly retarded. I don’t how you can make your claim that you want to “go back to the basics” and the “foundation of this country” and at the same time claim you are not racist. You are asking to go back to a time where woman didn’t vote, and blacks were owned as slaves. Sounds like a great time for anyone who is male and white.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Garrett/100001819383883 Gary Garrett

    If the Tea Party think that they are “Taxed Enough Already”, don’t you think that they would wan’t to join these people who are trying to get the very same message across. These OWS people are saying that the richest people in this country are not paying their fair share of taxes based on their income level, and that they are sick and tired of the middle class having to bear the biggest part of the tax burden in this country.

  • Freddy123

    Wow, just that statement alone makes the pot call the kettle

  • Freddy123

    Love Cain, Hope he wins the ticket. His economic mindset is what we need right now. I beleave he can get us out of the slump we are in

  • Freddy123

    Why is it the most hate speech I see on this forum is coming from those opposed to the Tea Party and what I am guessing are liberals. As an independent trying to make up my mind on the issue. Im leaning more to the side that is spewing less hate and name calling, not that i am not hearing it on both sides. Just a lot less from the conservative view.

  • Freddy123

    First as someone who worked at a jail as a guard for quite some time. We never had any pods that were divided by race. We never even divided Rooms by race. It was a first come first serve. If there was any segregation it was brought about by the individuals who segregated themselves. The Jail was way to overcrowded to worry about where people were staying.
    I will have to agree 100% about people hating way to much these days. The name calling and hateful retoric solves nothing and normally comes from angry people with nothing to do but scream about those they feel are responsible for their anger. This applies to both sides, now their are two groups of angry people standing up and saying what they think. Lets see which side has more hate and more arrests then we can say which side was better. You can speak up against wrong’s without having to resort to hatred and violence. That just makes you look like the idiot. Dr. King never had to resort to either. Why should we.

  • Aether

    Yes… because the President has the power to force Senators and House representatives to automatically switch to his view point so as to make the US a better place… Seriously, shut the hell up. It is not the Presidents fault when those from both sides are doing everything they can to avoid change when it doesn’t benefit them directly. IE – Corruption.

    The problem are the people who are corrupt, inept, and refuse to face facts that the world is moving on and that failure to change and adapt will be your downfall. Hopefully the newer generations will be able to attempt the complete and utter failures of the past several and future years. Assuming you manage to last that long of course….

  • http://twitter.com/maynardbrainard Jeremy Brainard

    But he is doing poorly in the Republican primary.

  • http://twitter.com/maynardbrainard Jeremy Brainard

    *believe

  • http://twitter.com/maynardbrainard Jeremy Brainard

    9 – They don’t wear those silly trifold hats.

  • Swing_64

    Think you missed the point.  Your argument is, “we weren’t a nation then?”  The statement is about naming yourself after a criminal act.

  • Anonymous

    This was in the Wall Street Journal today: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204774604576628981208827422.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_5 

    In short, the median US income has dropped 7% since 2001 when adjusted for inflation.  I mentioned the same stat to you last week and got your typical rage filled/ content empty response.   I doubt even this coming from the Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal will make a dent in your view, but here it is.

    You really may want to put aside the politics for a while and do something about the anger issues. Judging only from the admittedly limited view of your responses to dozens of people here, your political stands don’t seem to be fueled as much by views on economics or other policy, but instead by a rage disorder.  Anyone with a different view from yours is, in your eyes, scum, shit for brains, evil, etc…   It sure seems like you have issues that have nothing to do with politics that you are venting here.

    And now I await your balanced, thoughtful and rage-free response.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    I knew that but didn’t have the time to look it up at the time.  Thanks for setting the record straight.  Tony BS will never admit it, you know.  He will just shift ground, as always.

  • http://capitolcommentary.com Harrison
  • http://profiles.google.com/glennditto glenn lynch

    Sorry Peaceful and polite. Did you miss the video where the girl got her head stomped on for disagreeing with some of them. Peaceful people alos do not bring AK’s and M16′s to a town hall meeting. Lets not say the tea party were perfect angels, they did their share of violence and crime but no one called them on it.

  • http://cazort.net Alex Zorach

    I actually believe that there is a much greater potential for unity in goals and values as well as points of discontent between the Tea Party and the OWS movement.  Both are grass-roots movement fueled by discontent at the brokenness in our society and our economic system.

    There are cultural divides between the two movements….which to some degree correspond to age, rural vs. urban, and levels of education, as well as attitudes towards government and personal responsibility.

    But I think in the end, America will be best served by a synthesis of these two viewpoints, not a back-and-forth fight between the two, which may just degenerate into the status quo of Democrat vs. Republican.  I think there’s a potential for this sort of transcendence though, as both the Tea Party movement and OWS are highly critical of both parties, yet have many positive principles that they can embrace.  Please consider reading my proposed political platform if you’re curious what I think a synthesis of these two different viewpoints might look like.

  • http://cazort.net Alex Zorach

    I actually believe that there is a much greater potential for unity in goals and values as well as points of discontent between the Tea Party and the OWS movement.  Both are grass-roots movement fueled by discontent at the brokenness in our society and our economic system.

    There are cultural divides between the two movements….which to some degree correspond to age, rural vs. urban, and levels of education, as well as attitudes towards government and personal responsibility.

    But I think in the end, America will be best served by a synthesis of these two viewpoints, not a back-and-forth fight between the two, which may just degenerate into the status quo of Democrat vs. Republican.  I think there’s a potential for this sort of transcendence though, as both the Tea Party movement and OWS are highly critical of both parties, yet have many positive principles that they can embrace.  Please consider reading my proposed political platform if you’re curious what I think a synthesis of these two different viewpoints might look like.

  • http://cazort.net Alex Zorach

    Here in Philadelphia, there have been no arrests, there’s no violence.  The protest in Philly even has their own security team charged with de-escalating conflict when it arises.  I’ve heard that the NYC protest is much more chaotic though, not just from the media, but from first-hand accounts.

    But I would not condemn all participants just because of the actions of a few.

  • http://twitter.com/ihousesandiego Daniel P. Heilbrun

    I don’t support hypocrites! However, I do support irony!  http://trizzat.com/2011/10/what-idontsupport/

  • Anonymous

    God, you are stupid.  Racism?? You’re telling me that the main reason why we want him out is because he’s black.  How about his failed policies? How about the fact that the economy is falling apart and we got downgraded under his watch.  This jackass had two years of democratic control and he got everything he wanted passed.  And guess what… we’re worse off than before.  Before you rant about this racist nonsense, do your research.  OBAMA IS A FAILURE.

  • Anonymous

    You eat your words ye, Libtardt?  Cain was the top contender until the moron liberal media hit his character with false stories and he was forced to drop out.  Why did they do that? Simple…it proves that the narrative the conservatives are racist is nonsense.  What party gave you Jim Crow?  Democrats.. And what about the lovely people of NBC calling Cain’s alleged false actions a black sexuality against a blonde woman?  Conservatives are racist?! Please, libtards look in the mirror and do you research.  God, most of assholes don’t have jobs anyway so you should have plenty of time.

  • Anonymous

    And Greece is not doing too well either.  In fact, most of Europe is crumbling.  Socialism doesn’t work.  Quit blaming others because you cannot live up to your own expectations.  Protest the idiot in the White House.  Oh NO!!!! I called Obama an idiot. I must be a racist now.  On a side note, explain to me what the OWS wants and stands for.  If it’s against Wallstreet greed, why don’t they demand from Obama the 1 billion dollars Wallstreet gave to him for his reelection and “spread the wealth”?   

  • Anonymous

    Occupy WallStreet…hmm a group of very very very stupid people who have yet to voice a coherent message, a group of people who are hypocrits to their “spread the wealth” ideals when someone steals their ipods, cell phones, or pc’s. A group of people who are anti semitic morons who think they’re entitled to other’s belongings.  A group of people that no one cares about anymore because the group is comprised of rapists, theives, drug users, vandals, and homeless bums.  If you have a criminal record and no job…Sasha, you must be a member of OWS.  Perhaps when your group sets forth a message that makes sense and holds back on the crime, people may start listening.  However, until then, you are no more than common criminals that disrupt business and smell like rotten ass.  In sum, 
    Tea Party= smell ok, bathe, have jobs, comprised of working people (black,white, hispanic), have a coherent message and goals, classy, do not vandalize other’s property, don’t use drugs, don’t rape women, not racist, believe in the values that the US was founded on. 
    OWS= Everything opposite of the above Tea Party list.      

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