I thought she never said this?

Bush Daughter Barbara Endorses Gay Marriage http://bit.ly/eSSLBw

Natasha…HAHAHAHA

mcf1757 said:
Bush Daughter Barbara Endorses Gay Marriage http://bit.ly/eSSLBw

What’s your point? The Republican Party is the more tolerant political party.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Natasha…HAHAHAHA

Natasha and Boris head to Washington….not.

Snowspot said:
I thought she never said this?

Yes, liberals will lampoon (i.e. smear) Republicans with contrived non-quotes, but when Obama doesn’t know how many states he’s presiding over, you hear !

NORBIT Jr. said:
Yes, liberals will lampoon (i.e. smear) Republicans with contrived non-quotes, but when Obama doesn’t know how many states he’s presiding over, you hear !

You’re correct, we have heard that ad nauseum.

Don’t think of President Palin.

President Palin.

President Palin

President Palin.

Don’t think of President Palin.

I don’t believe it. The Russians could do better.

WCinWI said:
What’s your point? The Republican Party is the more tolerant political party.

Is that why they’re protesting CPAC for inviting GOProud?

WCinWI said:
What’s your point? The Republican Party is the more tolerant political party.

Oh, I thought it was the Tea Party.

Sarah knocks ‘em to their knees!

Go, Sarah!

WCinWI said:
What’s your point? The Republican Party is the more tolerant political party.

Agreed. An example is the Southern Democrats forming the KKK after the anti-slavery Republican party was born.

RowdyHoward said:
Oh, I thought it was the Tea Party.

Just because Tea Party folks tend to vote more than Democrats, don’t be mad. :)

Palin is a constant source of amuesment.

Mr B said:
Agreed. An example is the Southern Democrats forming the KKK after the anti-slavery Republican party was born.

It’s also a political party that likes to keep ethnic groups and women down through legislation.

I find it funny that the party that claims that they are so tolerant of all people, leaves some of the most vulgar comebacks or comments on Mediaite, HuffPo, Kos and others. Odd indeed.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Palin is a constant source of amuesment.

As are you and your spellings skills.

WCinWI said:
Just because Tea Party folks tend to vote more than Democrats, don’t be mad. :)

Haha! Is that why Obama is President? You silly goose

RowdyHoward said:
Haha! Is that why Obama is President? You silly goose

Obama won in November? I must’ve missed that.

Jon momentarily lapses into the Glenn Beck school of logic for comic effect.

I love when Jon makes fun of Kathy Procter, the “It’s me” lady.
Cracks me up every time.

On topic: That would explain Palin’s broken English.

yes that’s it palin lovers keep making excuses for your failed vice presidential candidate and washed up reality tv star. the woman who’s so smart she can’t even appear on regular media, she’s too good for it. Unfortunately nobody else is buying it, here’s someone who can’t step out of the limelight for even two seconds and even surrounded by insurmountable failure refuses to recognize she’s lost. she should run as a candidate for patron of lost causes, perhaps then this nitwit would finally win.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Palin is a constant source of amuesment.

WCinWI said:
As are you and your spellings skills.

Thanks for making me laugh…Rocksteady, I couldn’t agree more, but those little red dots mean you are about to butcher a word.

I’m surprised Jon left out the part where Palin thinks she an expert on Sputnik simply because she can see the moon from her house.

That interview with Greta is WTFing great!

Snowspot said:
I thought she never said this?

Of course she didn’t. It cost The Daily Show 50 platinum bars (the currency of the elitist) to hire Tina Fey to film that quote just to advance the lie that Palin said that.

Everybody know’s that Palin never said any of what’s been “reported”.  Even Mediaite had to admit this.

Colby, it is now glowing clear that your hero Jon Stewart doesn’t pay any attention to you or your brethren.  

But don’t feel bad…nobody else does either, lol.

Your a LIAR. She never said it.
Hilarious. You have not one shred of credibility.
Put your money where your mouth is FRAUD,
quote where she said the soviets won the
space race. You won’t because she didn’t.
King JOURNOLISTER Colby Hall strikes again.

RowdyHoward said:
Thanks for making me laugh…Rocksteady, I couldn’t agree more, but those little red dots mean you are about to butcher a word.

Yeah,yeah I was laughing to hard.

AmeriCuda said:
Your a LIAR. She never said it.

Alright, calm down.

Don’t get your spudnuts in an uproar.

WCinWI said:
It’s also a political party that likes to keep ethnic groups and women down through legislation.

How about you comparing the numbers of the ethinic groups Democrats in the US Congress to the number of ethenic groups Republicans in the US Congress.

Sara Palin is the brain behind the Te Party. go Sara !! go… hahaha

WCinWI said:
Obama won in November? I must’ve missed that.

WCinWI said:
Just because Tea Party folks tend to vote more than Democrats, don’t be mad. :)

Touche’…but I’m still not convinced that all those “tolerant” tea bag Americans voted for Obama. You are still a silly goose.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Yeah,yeah I was laughing to hard.

Hahahahaaagadsaffgadjssshaaff!!!!!!! Me too.

the real john t said:
How about you comparing the numbers of the ethinic groups Democrats in the US Congress to the number of ethenic groups Republicans in the US Congress.

First of all, that’s not what I said. Second of all, plenty of non-whites matriculate into the R party. What I said is that the Democratic Party is the Part that keeps ethnic and female groups down through legislation. That’s a fact.

RowdyHoward said:
Touche’…but I’m still not convinced that all those “tolerant” tea bag Americans voted for Obama. You are still a silly goose.

Love when you talk about tolerance when you use that word that has been taken on by the Left. Is that your only defense? Of course there are Republicans that bought into the smoke and mirrors. There’s no other way that he would’ve gotten elected. People were pissed at Bush and now they’re pissed at Obama.

2012 is gonna be fun. Grab some popcorn and enjoy the ride.

WCinWI said:
First of all, that’s not what I said. Second of all, plenty of non-whites matriculate into the R party. What I said is that the Democratic Party is the Part that keeps ethnic and female groups down through legislation. That’s a fact.

*Party

Stewart, you are about 20% hilarious geniius & about 80% a pathetic buffoon.

You could improve those percentages if your voice didn’t sound like a cross between Joy Behar & Jay Leno.

WCinWI said:
What I said is that the Democratic Party is the Part that keeps ethnic and female groups down through legislation.

Who signed the Civil Rights Bill? Who signed the Lilly Ledbetter Bill?

the real john t said:
Who signed the Civil Rights Bill? Who signed the Lilly Ledbetter Bill?

There’s no point in even debating this issue. :) You seem to have a lot of anger. Instead of commenting on a blog, why not go read a book? Unless you live on the WC, I can’t understand someone older being awake.

WCinWI said:
I can’t understand someone older being awake.

You mean like yourself,right?

ROCKSTEADY said:
You mean like yourself,right?

I’m probably one of the younger commenters on this site. I also am not on the WC.

You’re so easy to disprove on nearly every post. It’s quite fun. :)

F-You Jon Stewart… As Schneider said, former full-term Wasilla mayor Palin was “witty” & “inspirational”!! I’ll add very Presidential too! I’m looking forward to the Oval Office Facebook and Twitter rants… 2012 can’t get here soon enough!!

Woohoo the conservatives have woken up. You can tell – all the posts start to switch.

Happy times are here again. :)

WCinWI said:
There’s no point in even debating this issue. :) You seem to have a lot of anger. Instead of commenting on a blog, why not go read a book? Unless you live on the WC, I can’t understand someone older being awake.

That’s because you can’t debate. I don’t have any anger. I can stay up as long as I want to, I’m retired. And no, I’m not old enough to draw Social Security. So eat your heart out little one.

WCinWI said:
You’re so easy to disprove on nearly every post. It’s quite fun. :)

Hee,hee lucky you.You had nothing to disprove.You seem like an old lady is all,sorry.

the real john t said:
I don’t have any anger

the real john t said:
So eat your heart out little one

WCinWI said:
Love when you talk about tolerance when you use that word that has been taken on by the Left. Is that your only defense? Of course there are Republicans that bought into the smoke and mirrors. There’s no other way that he would’ve gotten elected. People were pissed at Bush and now they’re pissed at Obama.

2012 is gonna be fun. Grab some popcorn and enjoy the ride.

You do speak some truth, that I like…however, do you really believe the hateful people who protest gay marriage and tote signs that read god hates muslims or god hates fags, are Democrats?

the real john t said:
That’s because you can’t debate. I don’t have any anger. I can stay up as long as I want to, I’m retired. And no, I’m not old enough to draw Social Security. So eat your heart out little one.

Obama passed the most pro-abortion legislation ever. Don’t worry though – it’ll all come falling down.

More popcorn please.

RowdyHoward said:
You do speak some truth, that I like…however, do you really believe the hateful people who protest gay marriage and tote signs that read god hates muslims or god hates fags, are Democrats?

No – but I also don’t claim them as conservatives. They’re just despicable people.

I don’t agree with the idea of abortion, however I’m not going to protest at someone’s grave. That’s just dementia – no offense to someone that knows someone with dementia.

RowdyHoward said:
You do speak some truth, that I like…however, do you really believe the hateful people who protest gay marriage and tote signs that read god hates muslims or god hates fags, are Democrats?

Also, as far as gay marriage – I’m not quite at the level of approving of it. I’m younger and I am religious in nature. I believe in the idea that Gays should have access to unions and the same privileges that married people have. But in my conscience, I’m not at the level to say that I’m Pro-Gay marriage. I think that’s the important distinction to make with people that are religious by nature.

WCinWI said:
Obama passed the most pro-abortion legislation ever. Don’t worry though – it’ll all come falling down.
More popcorn please.

What the hell did that have anything to do with my comment?

RowdyHoward said:
You do speak some truth, that I like…however, do you really believe the hateful people who protest gay marriage and tote signs that read god hates muslims or god hates fags, are Democrats?

Also, this whole thing in Egypt scares me and it scares me that the media isn’t covering what’s going to happen after the transition. They should be looking into the Muslim Brotherhood and other “stable” political parties over there.

the real john t said:
What the hell did that have anything to do with my comment?

I take back that posting. You’re too angry to deal with. Enjoy convos with others. :)

It’s funny how WCinWI keeps telling everyone how young she is. Probably in her dreams. She’s probably on SS and Medicare.

WCinWI said:
You’re too angry to deal with.

If I’m so angry how come I laugh at all your ignorant comments?

What pro-abortion legislation is that WCinWI? Do you realize that that is an oxy-moron? Abortion is legal in the USA and has been for a long time. You can not legalize something that is already legal. If anything, it’s Republicans who are trying to pass anti-choice legislation.

By the way WCinWi, Republicans are attempting to redefine what “Rape” is in their legislation.
http://www.frumforum.com/house-gop-seeks-to-redefine-rape

WCinWI said:
No – but I also don’t claim them as conservatives. They’re just despicable people.

I don’t agree with the idea of abortion, however I’m not going to protest at someone’s grave. That’s just dementia – no offense to someone that knows someone with dementia.

WCinWI said:
Also, as far as gay marriage – I’m not quite at the level of approving of it. I’m younger and I am religious in nature. I believe in the idea that Gays should have access to unions and the same privileges that married people have. But in my conscience, I’m not at the level to say that I’m Pro-Gay marriage. I think that’s the important distinction to make with people that are religious by nature.

That’s cool, I appreciate you sharing your view, I’m just bummed out at how hateful people can be towards other humans. You have some good points…

In fact, I’m sure we could see eye to eye on a few things. Maybe we can watch 2012 together…eat popcorn and root for opposite sides. WCinWI, this has been fun…till we meet again.

Toodles!

Gasket said:
By the way WCinWi, Republicans are attempting to redefine what “Rape” is in their legislation.
http://www.frumforum.com/house-gop-seeks-to-redefine-rape

Wow…please tell me that is not accurate. Abortion is a terrible thing…but I hope I never live to see the day a fetus has more rights than a woman (of any age).

and to think all this action posted under a Daily Show clip!!

Gasket said:
What pro-abortion legislation is that WCinWI?

She doesn’t know. She just pulls things out of thin air and thinks it’s the truth and expects everyone to believe it.

John, I think I know her mindset. Wisconsin has probably the toughest and strictest anti-choice state laws in the country. So, the federal statutes do seem liberal (in her eyes) and any federal legislation that’s not outright banning abortion is “pro-abortion” legislation. Disjointed reasoning but that’s what it looks like.

the real john t said:
It’s funny how WCinWI keeps telling everyone how young she is.

Lot’s of young people use the euphemism “WC”. It may even be a lyric in a Ke$ha song.

“Palin’s analysis quickly went rogue with reality, claiming that the Soviet’s somehow won the space race but that led to the fall of the Soviet Union.” ~ Colby Hall

Bill Maher and Others Falsely Claim Sarah Palin Said Soviets ‘Won the Space Race’

When Palin says “their victory in that race to space,” she’s clearly referring to the specific milestone of launching an artificial satellite into Earth orbit, as opposed to the larger “Space Race” that it precipitated. ~ Tommy Christopher

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-and-others-falsely-claim-sarah-palin-said-soviets-won-the-space-race/

How typical lefty of Jon. Completely misrepresenting and misunderstanding Palin’s commentary and rather than look into exactly what she did say, he glomped onto what the rest of the lamestream media is saying, demonstrating that Jon himself is nothing but a participant in the group think of inside the beltway liberal media idiots.

Yawn.

Jon needs a new schtick; he is losing audience with his boringness. And here he claims to be “sane” and doesn’t paraticipate in the inside the box thinking.

Double yawn

I guess Lib media hacks everywhere don’t really want to bother themselves with the fact that their beloved Obama just got his ASS KICKED and his ‘signature’ ObamaCare bit of socialism completely trashed. Yes! Let’s keep talking about some woman in Alaska who may or may not have political aspirations two years down the road. File under, ‘Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.’ Stupid Lib media hacks.

So what if she is look at our country JON STEWART’ people are all russian spies to me! ‘Everyone thinks the media is to far to the left or right and it is your playing to the tune to the serpent Mongols! Who have money your just as rotten as any spies ! You do not care about us we the people you serve, ‘Satan and money!
‘Americant’s are all fed up with the media and your lies, I predict that fire will be used before long to burn your news sources down! You lie in bed with the oligarch meek sub human, ‘Servient people, and their end is fire!
OK The people have all been lied to the meek do not inherit the earth they inherit fire!
‘Goof luck!’
As far as Sarah Palin’s Goes If I was her I would get more guns if I was her!
‘Amen’

WCinWI says:
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RowdyHoward said:
You do speak some truth, that I like…however, do you really believe the hateful people who protest gay marriage and tote signs that read god hates muslims or god hates fags, are Democrats?

Also, this whole thing in Egypt scares me and it scares me that the media isn’t covering what’s going to happen after the transition. They should be looking into the Muslim Brotherhood and other “stable” political parties over there.
==========================

You can tell who watches Fox news…….”Muslim Brotherhood” “scares me”…..

Jon Stewart will go out of his way to protect his dear leader, Obama. Sexist and false commentary won’t work these days. Stay classy, Jon.

TangledThorns said:
Jon Stewart will go out of his way to protect his dear leader, Obama. Sexist and false commentary won’t work these days. Stay classy, Jon.

Classy? Isn’t profanity his stock and trade? This is Jon’s take on Saturday Night Live. You are mean’t to laugh, and if Sarah laughed, as she did early on with her own SNL appearance, she would be better off.

TrollJuice said:
Also, this whole thing in Egypt scares me and it scares me that the media isn’t covering what’s going to happen after the transition. They should be looking into the Muslim Brotherhood and other “stable” political parties over there.

Go over and watch the BBC. They’re giving some very good analysis of post uprising, and the more likely options are positive. I also think there are some signs this may be ending very soon.

I know from whence you are coming. US television news, particularly cable “news” seldom has a handle on much that happens north of New York, east of Cape Cod, south of DC or much west of I95. What cable “news” is reporting is hyperbolic and frantic, deemed to excite, except on FOX “News” which merely seems to want to scare its viewers senseless, as usual.,

Gasket said:
By the way WCinWi, Republicans are attempting to redefine what “Rape” is in their legislation.
http://www.frumforum.com/house-gop-seeks-to-redefine-rape

Is Julian Assange a rapist?

TangledThorns said:
Sexist and false commentary won’t work these days.

Shhhh…the Libs think it will…Shhhh.

sarainitaly said:
“Palin’s analysis quickly went rogue with reality, claiming that the Soviet’s somehow won the space race but that led to the fall of the Soviet Union.” ~ Colby Hall

Bill Maher and Others Falsely Claim Sarah Palin Said Soviets ‘Won the Space Race’

When Palin says “their victory in that race to space,” she’s clearly referring to the specific milestone of launching an artificial satellite into Earth orbit, as opposed to the larger “Space Race” that it precipitated. ~ Tommy Christopher

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-and-others-falsely-claim-sarah-palin-said-soviets-won-the-space-race/

Sorry, Jon Steweart is in charge of what everybody said now. If Jon says she said it, she said it, even if she didn’t. Jon Stewart is like God. He doesn’t just tell them the TRVTH, he creates the TRVTH. And if you don’t think so, you’re stupid and old. Also, Fux Newz.

Pablo said:
Sorry, Jon Steweart is in charge of what everybody said now. If Jon says she said it, she said it, even if she didn’t. Jon Stewart is like God. He doesn’t just tell them the TRVTH, he creates the TRVTH. And if you don’t think so, you’re stupid and old. Also, Fux Newz.

Either that or you can not take a joke.

WCinWI said:
Also, as far as gay marriage – I’m not quite at the level of approving of it. I’m younger and I am religious in nature. I believe in the idea that Gays should have access to unions and the same privileges that married people have. But in my conscience, I’m not at the level to say that I’m Pro-Gay marriage. I think that’s the important distinction to make with people that are religious by nature.

If gay sex is a sin then why sanction civil unions with all all the same privileges? If you think civil unions are okay, then what’s the point of making sure it’s not called marriage?

CosmosDan said:
If gay sex is a sin then why sanction civil unions with all all the same privileges? If you think civil unions are okay, then what’s the point of making sure it’s not called marriage?

it’s because their party hates homosexuals and with civil unions they can claim moral superiority over gays.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
it’s because their party hates homosexuals and with civil unions they can claim moral superiority over gays.

and before someone says “well obama favors civil unions, does he hate homosexuals” to which i say that his opinion of this is evolving and i believe he will come to agree with equal rights for all.
that is the difference between the two parties, republicans don’t even know the meaning of evolution.

ChrisNH said:
Shhhh…the Libs think it will…Shhhh.

Don’t forget their favorite go-to Smear — the RACIST CANARD!

Tawana (Jewish “diamond merchants”, “white interlopers”, Crown Heights riots) Sharpton fell flat on his face recently when he tried to be Holder’s point man on Racist speech.
Can you believe that? – and THEIR Mainstream Media says nothing!

That stench your smelling is Liberal Hypocrisy, once again.

Keep EXPOSING IT!!

How much more pathetic can the left get?

She’s not a russian spy, just just an idiotic moron… much simpler explination!

This from a man who hates his own mother..

I guess Jon didn’t get the memo…..

According to Leftie Dana Milbank, It’ was to be a Palin free month, starting Jan. 26th.
But poor Jon only get’s about 1.5 viewers, less than half as many as Sarah Palin’s Alaska, so I guess it really doesn’t matter that much….Lol

Every Kingdom needs a court jester.

I didn’t watch the show, did he go after Chucky Schumer for not knowing the 3 branches of gov’t. Come to think of it, Tingles ignored that one also. Now I wonder what the reason could possibly be.

Sarah palin will always be the butt end of jokes.

valkyrie101 said:
Every Kingdom needs a court jester.

Obama’s court jester is not Stewart, its Beck.

Its a good thing, your didn’t watch. I don’t think you would have gotten the point anyways…..

The point: Look how easy it is to criticize and jump draw up conclusions without facts and figures or evidence.
Can anyone else see the dangers of an uninformed opinion?

valkyrie101 said:
Obama’s court jester is not Stewart, its Beck.

in addition to the town drunk.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
I didn’t watch the show, did he go after Chucky Schumer for not knowing the 3 branches of gov’t. Come to think of it, Tingles ignored that one also. Now I wonder what the reason could possibly be.

Because ithese things are old and uninteresting to everyone except the easily excitable, I should think.

A man without a Country said:
Can anyone else see the dangers of an uninformed opinion?

president obama and any other target of fox know the dangers of uninformed opinions.

Royal Pain in the Butt says:

Because ithese things are old

Funny since the Palin interview he is referencing happened days BEFORE the Schumer screw-up. Care to take that back?

ps, what is ithese?

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Care to take that back?

Noone cares.Sarah Palin is much more entertaining to those who like comedy.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
it’s because their party hates homosexuals and with civil unions they can claim moral superiority over gays.

It does seem odd to me. I suppose you can call it a compromise and progress but why retain the title of marriage if you’re trying to give gays equal rights. It it somehow a more holy term? Doesn’t seem like it.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
it’s because their party hates homosexuals and with civil unions they can claim moral superiority over gays

Now Chili, that’s not really fair, since Obama is against gay marriage also.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
it’s because their party hates homosexuals and with civil unions they can claim moral superiority over gays.

Wow, that’s weird. Because 70% of blacks voted for Prop 8 in California. You know, the gay marriage ban.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
ChiliPeppersFan said:it’s because their party hates homosexuals and with civil unions they can claim moral superiority over gays Now Chili, that’s not really fair, since Obama is against gay marriage also.

Not true. Obama stated that “personally” he considers marriage to be between a man and a woman. That is not what you said. The issue is dealt with mostly on the state level and does not so much fall under executive authority as it does under judicial authority.

I never watch cable ‘news’, as I find it beneath me. Beef au jus! Au lait parfait! I only watch Al-Jazeera in Arabic. Someday, I hope to even learn the language.

So Obama is not having to take a staring role, other than in appointing a couple more SC judges.

writer said:
I never watch cable ‘news’, as I find it beneath me. Beef au jus! Au lait parfait! I only watch Al-Jazeera in Arabic. Someday, I hope to even learn the language.

You have such a beef fetish, writer, and in French no less.

n’est-ce pa. If you think that’s impressive, I also never watch cable ‘news’, and I spell words such as ‘honor’ and ‘color’ as ‘honour’ and ‘colour’.

CosmosDan said:
If gay sex is a sin then why sanction civil unions with all all the same privileges? If you think civil unions are okay, then what’s the point of making sure it’s not called marriage?

Can you show me where I called it a sin? It’s a bad, bad thing to assume what people say. Just sayin’

ChiliPeppersFan said:
and before someone says “well obama favors civil unions, does he hate homosexuals” to which i say that his opinion of this is evolving and i believe he will come to agree with equal rights for all.
that is the difference between the two parties, republicans don’t even know the meaning of evolution.

The fact that you even had to respond to your own posting and defend the Democratic President already states that you know that Obama is for civil unions.

No offense folks and I understand that there’s modern technology and so on, but there are certain things that only women can do. Procreate is one of them. Accept that, then move on.

writer said:
n’est-ce pa. If you think that’s impressive, I also never watch cable ‘news’, and I spell words such as ‘honor’ and ‘color’ as ‘honour’ and ‘colour’.

So you are not supporting FOX boycott of french fries?

I said:

Now Chili, that’s not really fair, since Obama is against gay marriage also.

Val says:

Not true. Obama stated that “personally” he considers marriage to be between a man and a woman.

Um, I think we just said the same thing. But feel free to continue spinning.

WCinWI said:
Can you show me where I called it a sin? It’s a bad, bad thing to assume what people say. Just sayin’

Well, do you believe it’s a sin or not?

RowdyHoward said:
Well, do you believe it’s a sin or not?

No – I don’t find it particularly attractive but it’s not my place to judge that. I just think there should be a marriage separation between a man and a woman because ultimately, the reason for sex (as creepy as it sounds) is to procreate.

More PALIN-WATCH 2011 huh Hall. LOL…funny. Do you and Dan Abrams still claim that Mediaite is not “snarky” or mean?

Mr B said:
Don’t think of President Palin. President Palin. President Palin President Palin. Don’t think of President Palin.

Whom of you think that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President of the United States? And why? I’m looking for a reasoned argument, pro or con. Thanks.

WCinWI said:
No – I don’t find it particularly attractive but it’s not my place to judge that. I just think there should be a marriage separation between a man and a woman because ultimately, the reason for sex (as creepy as it sounds) is to procreate.

You know, I used to believe the same thing regarding Gay marriage…give them a civil union, just don’t call it marriage…because by true definition it is a “bible” term reserved for Man and Woman.

But as I grow older, I realize how ridiculous it is. I’ll say it again, there is too much division in our country…surely we can work together to find solutions that work for everyone…marriage is a word, a lot of people would like to think it’s a state of mind…it’s not. I was with my wife for 8 years before we married, you know what changed when after we spent all that $$ on our wedding…nothing!!! My love was already at it’s greatest capacity and I would have spent the rest of my life with her regardless of this “word”…but, I’ll say the tax break is nice.

As for sex…your view is like saying food is to keep you from starving. That is it’s most basic purpose.. but really?? You seem to have passion, but it is sad to see someone simplify such a great American past time. (oh wait I’m talking about sex, not eating)

RowdyHoward said:
You know, I used to believe the same thing regarding Gay marriage…give them a civil union, just don’t call it marriage…because by true definition it is a “bible” term reserved for Man and Woman. But as I grow older, I realize how ridiculous it is. I’ll say it again, there is too much division in our country…surely we can work together to find solutions that work for everyone…marriage is a word, a lot of people would like to think it’s a state of mind…it’s not. I was with my wife for 8 years before we married, you know what changed when after we spent all that $$ on our wedding…nothing!!! My love was already at it’s greatest capacity and I would have spent the rest of my life with her regardless of this “word”…but, I’ll say the tax break is nice. As for sex…your view is like saying food is to keep you from starving. That is it’s most basic purpose.. but really?? You seem to have passion, but it is sad to see someone simplify such a great American past time. (oh wait I’m talking about sex, not eating)

Well said, very well reasoned.

CC says:

Whom of you think that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President of the United States? And why? I’m looking for a reasoned argument, pro or con. Thanks.

If you go by straight experience, Palin was more qualified with Obama. That’s just a fact.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
CC says: Whom of you think that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President of the United States? And why? I’m looking for a reasoned argument, pro or con. Thanks. If you go by straight experience, Palin was more qualified with Obama. That’s just a fact.

Thanks for responding. However, that is not the answer I was looking for. X can be more qualified than Y, yet both can be ill-qualified for something.

So again, I ask: do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to be President of the United States, and why? It is a legitimate question, since she is in the public arena.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
CC says:

Whom of you think that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President of the United States? And why? I’m looking for a reasoned argument, pro or con. Thanks.

If you go by straight experience, Palin was more qualified with Obama. That’s just a fact.

She’s been president of the US for 2 years? Maybe more experience with reality TV

WCinWI said:
Can you show me where I called it a sin? It’s a bad, bad thing to assume what people say. Just sayin’

I didn’t assume anything. That’s why there’s an IF.
The question that follows it still stands though if you’re inclined to answer.

I was talking about when he was running and I think you know it.

Courteous Commentary said:
Thanks for responding. However, that is not the answer I was looking for. X can be more qualified than Y, yet both can be ill-qualified for something.

So again, I ask: do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to be President of the United States, and why? It is a legitimate question, since she is in the public arena.

I like your style.

WCinWI said:
No offense folks and I understand that there’s modern technology and so on, but there are certain things that only women can do. Procreate is one of them. Accept that, then move on.

I’m not sure what that has to do with the issue of SSM.

It was a very funny bit and I really wanted to laugh, but I’m so sick of Palin that even the (spot on) jokes about her are wearing on me, because she’s nothing but a joke that just isn’t funny anymore.

RowdyHoward said:
I like your style.

Thanks. Apparently very few do, since I get so few thumbs up, and the only person to answer my question re Sarah Palin is Liberal Tormentor, who did not really answer it.

CC, my answer is if Obama was qualified, then she sure the heck is. If you think I’m going to get in a back and forth with someone with PDS, I’m not.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
CC, my answer is if Obama was qualified, then she sure the heck is. If you think I’m going to get in a back and forth with someone with PDS, I’m not.

Huh?

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
CC, my answer is if Obama was qualified, then she sure the heck is. If you think I’m going to get in a back and forth with someone with PDS, I’m not.

I’m not sure what you mean by pds, but I assure you, I sincerely meant the question as well meaning. Actually, one of the least qualified Presidents was Abraham Lincoln, whom I consider our greatest President. I did not intend the question to be back and forth; rather a discussion from which we can all benefit. Thanks for replying.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Um, I think we just said the same thing. But feel free to continue spinning.

He said: “that’s not really fair, since Obama is against gay marriage also.” Obama did not address what he is against, he expressed what he personally favored, ie I am heterosexual. And from that Obama is now a right wing advocate, because he is supposedly “against” gay marriage? So yes, it was spin but not mine.

So Val, basically you are saying he’s voting “present” AGAIN. Got it!

CC, you’ll have to excuse my response. Most of your posts seem to be calling people on their right for their “rhetoric”, (even when there is noting exceptional about it sometimes), but ignoring it on the left. Personally, I think if Palin were elected President today, she would far exceed the job Obama has done.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
CC, you’ll have to excuse my response. Most of your posts seem to be calling people on their right for their “rhetoric”, (even when there is noting exceptional about it sometimes), but ignoring it on the left. Personally, I think if Palin were elected President today, she would far exceed the job Obama has done.

You may very well be correct. I don’t know. What I am trying to do is figure out why people like certain politicians, etc. and think they would make a good President. I lean to the left, but I do feel that Mitt Romney would make a good President, because of his experience and intelligence. I think he would do a very good job working with both aisles of Congress.

Courteous Commentary said:
I’m not sure what you mean by pds, but I assure you, I sincerely meant the question as well meaning. Actually, one of the least qualified Presidents was Abraham Lincoln, whom I consider our greatest President. I did not intend the question to be back and forth; rather a discussion from which we can all benefit. Thanks for replying.

PDS = Palin Derangement Syndrome. It’s an assertion that critiques of Palin do not fall within the rational realm of criticism. Therefore, any dialogue with said PDS-accuser will not result in coherence or intellectual honesty with regard to the “why?” question you posed.

(Or any other. EX: it’s perfectly acceptable to define her as a Mama Grizzly and support her Victimhood. Rational person would say Palin needs to pick a side – either be/act like a Mama Grizzly or continue with VictimHood, not both. PDS-accuser will tell you how MEAN the LAMEstream media is, use the word “Libs”, accuse one of being afraid of her, etc.)

And don’t take to heart thumbs up/thumbs down ratings. Some people have a lot more free time than others and it’s not reflective of the discourse at hand.

Avoidswork, I can’t help but notice your username is inherently liberal in nature. Why do you libs hate to work so much anyway?

to provoke a not-so-clever response from folks like yourself, maybe?

RowdyHoward said:
You know, I used to believe the same thing regarding Gay marriage…give them a civil union, just don’t call it marriage…because by true definition it is a “bible” term reserved for Man and Woman.

But as I grow older, I realize how ridiculous it is. I’ll say it again, there is too much division in our country…surely we can work together to find solutions that work for everyone…marriage is a word, a lot of people would like to think it’s a state of mind…it’s not. I was with my wife for 8 years before we married, you know what changed when after we spent all that $$ on our wedding…nothing!!! My love was already at it’s greatest capacity and I would have spent the rest of my life with her regardless of this “word”…but, I’ll say the tax break is nice.

As for sex…your view is like saying food is to keep you from starving. That is it’s most basic purpose.. but really?? You seem to have passion, but it is sad to see someone simplify such a great American past time. (oh wait I’m talking about sex, not eating)

I won’t disagree with your sentiments, but we can just agree to disagree on this issue. I’m all for gay couples getting the same tax break, it’s merely that I think marriage has been demoralized over time. It’s much like I think about single parenting. I think society as a whole has degenerated and it’s by breaking down simple community and family structures where that occurs. It’s not all a parenting issue and I know that gay couples can take care of kids. We have an abortion epidemic (of sorts) so why not have people that are not ready to take care of a child themselves, give it up to a gay couple. We take care of two areas (the ability for anyone to have a kid & allowing that child a future amongst a gay couple).

It’s a murky issue, but I just think that it should be between a man and a woman, with rights and a second form of marriage being tolerated, so to speak. Man-man and woman-woman can’t make a child together. That’s just a fact.

WCinWI said:
I won’t disagree with your sentiments, but we can just agree to disagree on this issue. I’m all for gay couples getting the same tax break, it’s merely that I think marriage has been demoralized over time. It’s much like I think about single parenting. I think society as a whole has degenerated and it’s by breaking down simple community and family structures where that occurs. It’s not all a parenting issue and I know that gay couples can take care of kids. We have an abortion epidemic (of sorts) so why not have people that are not ready to take care of a child themselves, give it up to a gay couple. We take care of two areas (the ability for anyone to have a kid & allowing that child a future amongst a gay couple).

It’s a murky issue, but I just think that it should be between a man and a woman, with rights and a second form of marriage being tolerated, so to speak. Man-man and woman-woman can’t make a child together. That’s just a fact.

Oh also, you learn in Psych classes in college that intercourse is there for procreation.

WCinWI said:
Oh also, you learn in Psych classes in college that intercourse is there for procreation.

Uh, could you please explain your comment? What psychology class was that, and what was the context?

WCinWI says:
“it’s merely that I think marriage has been demoralized over time”. “I just think that it should be between a man and a woman,”

- I just needed some clarification.
What do you mean, “how marriage has been demoralized over time”. Last I checked most of the world doesn’t allow gay marriage. Do you mean straight people have been de-moralizing marriage? I doubt you mean that, so fill me in. How can a gay couple denigrate someone’s marriage, or their value of marriage? Isn’t the value of marriage carried by the love two people have for each other. How can the bond of love (marriage) be affected simply from allowing more “people” to marry? That is the purpose of marriage right, to be in a union with the one that you love. Maybe I am reading into this too much, but are you saying that gays are not our equal? It reminds me of a quote I once read.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. “
-Thomas Jefferson, 1776
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal
Maybe people should stop having gay babies, then we wouldn’t need this conversation. Haha

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
So Val, basically you are saying he’s voting “present” AGAIN. Got it!

Haven’t you ever heard of the prime directive?